hi everybody this is Matthew Catalan CEO of increase media and I have a really really special guest today someone that's a best-selling international author holds events for personal development and reaching your full potential internationally all over the all over the globe and it's something that I really admired myself and has been featured in the film the secret which most of people probably know it's one of the most well-known movies in the self-help space and he's gonna be featured in a docudrama that's gonna be made after the book which we have right here a copy of
the original original book of thinking Grow Rich after the book of think & Grow Rich so that's gonna be extraordinary Bob Proctor thank you so much for having the time my pleasure man so one of the things I was wondering about and I think this is something that maybe some people know most people know your story and how you started out but where did this all came from you started from making $40,000 a year being 25 44 40 to $4,000 a year so that's a lot less and what what happened so you were you were
doing that right you were you were doing your thing what what shifted in your mind what Oh what changed a lot of things I think I was just waking up in the morning and going through the day and going to bed at night but I think that's what most people do and I hadn't gone to school I only had two months high school I never had a good job but I couldn't hold a job I wasn't a good employee I would just do enough so I wouldn't get fired but I got fired a lot and
I met a man and Ray Stanford in Toronto and I'm from Toronto and he got talking to me he says why don't you change the way you're living well you know it never entered my mind that I could or they should I didn't give any thought to it and then looking back I don't think most people do you know people that are watching your material or that are familiar with me or my seminars they're thinking of what they're gonna do with their life but they're in the minority 90 some percent of the population are lost
and I was I never I had never done anything of any consequence I was earning $4,000 a year I owed $6,000 so I mean if I had to take in all the money I earn for 18 months and pay debt I would have just broken even I was not happy and he said why don't you change your results well like I said I never it never entered my mind that I couldn't any asked me do you read anything and I said no I can't read now I could read I didn't I think I read about
as well as most people the average person reads at about a grade seven level and that's because they learned to me by the time you're in grade seven and then you never improve upon it and he gave me this book and this is the book that's in think that Sean used in think and the book has fallen apart I mean I've been I've been reading this every day for over fifty five years it was fifty five years a couple of weeks ago and everything in my life started to change like he said in here you've
got to decide what you want well I never that never entered my mind you know and I would wake up and I just wanted to get the debts off my back I wanted to get through the day to think that you could sit down and take a pen and write out what you want then get it that was the furthest thing from my mind I mean I just didn't know that never entered my mind but that's what he got me to do and he talked to me for awhile well then I said I wanted $25,000
I mean that would be like maybe you saying right now you want a billion dollars I mean it was so far out of my reach that I didn't even know anyone with $25,000 and I didn't believe it but he said if you do exactly what I tell you you have anything you want well I not only didn't believe it there was no way I could believe it but the way he spoke to me he had such conviction I knew he believed it least I believed he believed it and then he said to me why don't
you do what I'm telling you he said your ways not working mine is he was happy healthy wealthy and I couldn't even figure out why it was talking to me and something inside me said why don't you do what he says so I thought I'll try it he's give it a try you've got nothing to lose and so I said okay and that's really where it all started and he gave me this book and he said read this every day he got me to commit that I'd read it every day well I did and that's
a thick book you know for a guy that doesn't mean I never read a book in my life I was 26 and he just frosted him I started to read it and he said do exactly what I'm telling you and do what the book tells you well my whole life changed just like that how long did it took no what happened was I carry a gold card I always have one and I keep it in a plastic sleeve and when I touch that see when you write your goal you create a picture in your mind
it's like painting a picture in words and that picture is impregnated into cells in your brain well when you touch something your sensory factor touches affected it sends a light message through your central nervous system and activates those cells in your brain so the picture of your glow flashes on the screen of your mind well I didn't know any of this at the time but he had me write it on a card so I wrote the goal that I wanted on a card and I put it in my pocket and what happened was I kept
reading it I got it I started to treat it as a joke but I started to think of earning money now you think well weren't you think of that before no I wasn't I would get paid whatever they give me and I was always in debt so I was thinking death now tell you one thing I've learned if your goal is to get out of debt you'll probably stay in debt forever because that's what you're thinking about and I quit thinking of debt they started to think of earning money and I heard a guy say
there's good money cleaning floors so I'm not president claims lawyers and I started I remember I had to borrow 980 dollars and that was not an easy thing for me to do I mean I wouldn't have lent me money nobody won't lend me money but I needed that much to buy a used floor machine and some buckets and mops and he said something he says don't clean floors for somebody else do them for yourself so I was doing what they tell me and that's what they started to do I got one office to clean then
I got another one then another one any went from there the first year I earned 175,000 in under five years I was over a million and I was cleaning offices in Toronto Montreal Boston Cleveland Atlanta in London England I would just go and open offices and hire people to clean floors or start from a joke presume joke your work yeah it's like I think it's fascinating that even though you don't believe something in that moment even if you tell yourself a lie so many times you will start believing it well there's no question but that's
you tell yourself a lie often enough you're gonna start to believe it and way around 1900 William James said believe and your belief will create the fact it's got to be believed you've got to believe it and if there's no belief it ain't going to happen see when you believe it you're encased in the idea you fuse with the idea and that makes all kinds of things happen um in the movie think which you're gonna be featured in and which is made by the laws and the principle in this book there's something that really touched
my soul which is the three feet from gold story which I think a lot of people resonate with because so many people I think everybody has goals everybody has aspirations everybody wants this and that and that but so many people just don't get them immediately and quit so how do you feel about that like what level of belief do you need to have you need like never give up what would you and I think it it goes beyond belief I think you have to know it you see when you believe it there's no quitting you
never quit it doesn't matter what happens you don't quit quitting is never an option I the people that quit they never really bought into the idea in the first place see you've got it you you get it on three levels the second you think of something you've got it intellectually when you get emotionally involved you've got it on a spiritual or emotional level well then that expresses itself through the body but it's just an instrument of your mind and so when you're really buying into it you literally fuse with it Neville said you fuse with
it and this causes all kinds of things to happen you're dealing with electronics you're dealing with energy like the second you think something that's all you need see you live on frequencies you think on frequencies your phone operates on frequencies and it's like magic you're you're in Romania is right I'm in Toronto yes if I've got your number on my phone I could take a picture something hit like that you've got it in Romania simultaneous with me sending it because when you get into the mind there isn't any time or space just immediate yeah well
the you're living on frequencies now when you think of something what you've done is you've flipped your brain onto a higher frequency the very fact you can see it is all the proof you need to know you could get it what you have to do is raise your level of consciousness to that frequency and then you will attract whatever is on that frequency all the good you need to manifest the idea Carnegie said that way back in 1908 to he'll when when Carnegie commissioned him to write this book he said any idea that's held in
the mind that's emphasized that's either feared or revered so it could be better good that's either feared or revered we'll begin at once to close itself in the most convenient and appropriate form available it starts to move in to form Wernher von Braun that dr. Wernher von Braun there was the mastermind of the moonshot he told John Kennedy when he was president he said the natural laws of the universe are so precise that we don't have any difficulty sending people to the moon and we can tighten the landing with a precision of a fraction of
a second or one of the first laws is a perpetual transmutation of energy energies forever moving into form through form and back into form now what makes you and I unique is we can dictate the form it's going to move into because we're creative beings like all the little creatures on the planet are completely at home in their environment they blend in you and I are the only people or the only creatures on the planet the human that is totally disoriented in their environment and that's because we've been given the mental faculties to create our
own environment I have read somewhere that once you think about something you visualize it you create it once and then it's your job to create it in the real world that's right everything is created twice so you first created in your mind it's already created then you have to actually take it from that world in the material world like it took hell from 1908 to 1937 pick him up with this 29 years that's a long time it is a long time and he worked at it every day in Carnegie didn't didn't subsidize didn't give him
any money but what he gave him he gave him connections the most powerful people on the planet at that time yeah so you obviously did all this you master the power of this and at least you you know you have a level of success that most people would wish for most people I think most people if they were the envision that's who says that you have at the moment that most successful people have they would say if I would have that I will not work again what makes you get up every morning going in your
age right it's not the same of being 25 it's not the same as being 30 what makes you what was that purpose that motivation inside of you that makes you wake up in the morning and work again and just inspire people and create this massive change that's happening which is well the people that ha quit work and retire they don't even understand who they are we're not made for work works made for us right what we've got to do is find out what we love and then you have to do it because you love it
it's a age time/space not good nothing to do with it your mind is full of the idea you see you get up you wake up you get up you've got to get going because you've got places to go and things to do people to see because you're in love with an idea see when people quit like three feet from gold mm-hmm they weren't in love with that idea they were going after the money it wasn't the idea that motivated them it was the money that motivated them and that's why they quit see when you're going
after what you want and that's one of the big problems with people and they set goals they set a goal to do what they think they can do well there's no inspiration in that it's got to be what you want to do see once come from the essence of who we are we're spiritual beings and we are a soul we don't have a soul we are a soul and the soul is forever seeking it's awareness of its oneness with that which is which I call God well spirits always for expansion and fuller expression it's never
for disintegration so there's a basic law of the universe if you're not growing you're dying it's create or disintegrate nothing stays where it is we live in an ocean of motion entropy so it's the spirit within our spiritual DNA is perfect there's perfection within every one of us well it's that perfection seeking expression through it causes us to want if you're running you want to run faster if you jump you want to jump higher if you're selling you want to sell more doesn't matter what you're doing you want to do it better when people understand
where wants come from that's when their life starts to change I think when we're kids we go to mom or dad and we say mom dad I want and we tell them something then and and they're busy doing something they say well how are you gonna do that well of course the kid doesn't got any idea and because he can't say how he knows well so he gives it up and that's why when people grow up when they want something if they don't know how to do it they let it go they've been doing it
since there were little kids they were directed to let it go there's no money we don't know how to do it we don't know the right people so we let it go so we don't go after what we want most people set goals to do what they think they can do there's no inspiration in it that's why 90% of them set a target and they quit they set a target and quit when you're going after your heart's desire you don't quit and then why most people don't get what they want out of life is it
well they don't know what they want that's right you see I got this and then I got a role nightingale's condensed narration of this on a long playing record and I'd listened that record over and over and over again one day I was in the business in the cleaning business I had salespeople and I had them listen to this record every morning we listen to this record and one day I said you know I'd love to meet him and I didn't know who our light yo was he was a voice on a record that was
it I didn't even know where he lived and a young guy that worked with me he said no you wouldn't he's if you wanted to meet him you'd go and meet him I thought damn he's right so I phoned and I got an appointment with him now at the time he was the most listened to man in the history of the broadcasting industry he was a radio broadcaster and not an easy guy to get to but I got to meet with him for an hour I flew to Chicago I spent an hour with him and
when I was leaving I said Errol what's the big deal you know I mean what's it all about he said there's no big deal he said it's it's very simply says simply decide what you love to do and then dedicate your life to it he's the problem with most people they don't know what they love to do they never take the time to sit and ask themselves what they're doing is trying I think I can get in good money here I could do it good you know it's Rick and the earn some money it's not
what they love to do well I was sitting there you know I had offices all over the place I had a lot of people I was earning a lot of money and I I got excited because I knew exactly what I want to do I'm gonna do what he was doing and I made up my mind sitting in his office and I'd be somewhere around 1965 that I was going to go back and I was going to work with him and in 1968 I moved to Chicago I left my own company I moved to Chicago
and they start to work with it by because I wanted to do I had to move my whole family I had to get a green card I had to move my whole family to Chicago from Toronto but I got a double benefit out of it because I got to work with his partner - no Lloyd Clemente Lloyd Conant was a giant of a man what a great guy and he and Earl both mentored me see any success I've had I've had because I've got great mentors and I'm a good student now until I was 26
I was a terrible student when I picked up this book I become a great student I've got thousands of bucks I have an office at home in my home it's got a couple of thousand books in it and I built a studio and I've got a couple of thousand bucks in the studio I love reading but the success that I've enjoyed is because of the mentors or the coaches I've had I would do exactly what they tell me and if I coach somebody today and they don't do exactly what I tell them I don't coach
them anymore just like that it's all over it's not ready well they're not there it's not that only that they're not ready but if I'm gonna coach somebody and they're not doing what I tell them I'm wasting my time and theirs too now if they want to waste their time that's their prerogative I'm not gonna waste my that that's powerful and what happened after so you went and worked with Earl after we're reading your businesses there was more to it than that I was living in England and I was earning all kinds of money but
I didn't know why I didn't know how it happened I'd been raised to believe if you're gonna earn a lot of money you're gonna be really smart well I didn't think I was really smart in fact I knew I wasn't but I was there any a lot of money I was raised to believe if you don't go to school you can't get a good job I hadn't gone to school I didn't have a good job I owned the whole company so then they started to think I wonder how many things I believe are not true
now I was doing very well but I didn't know why it was doing very well I was what you call an unconscious competent in general that's where most successful people are and so I made up my mind I was gonna figure out why was i winning and then I really started this study and that's what took me to Lango Kona it took me nine and a half years and when I figured it out all I wanted to do was teach it that's all I do and when you do what you love isn't it that you
there's like an infinite amount of energy there's like there's no you don't get energy all the energy there ever was or ever will be as omnipresent it's evenly present in all places at the same time you don't get energy release energy you're just an instrument that energy flows through desire is the triggering mechanism that releases the energy when you've got the desire you've got the energy of um getting to desire you haven't got the energy so you're just blocking it if you're well yeah exactly that's exactly what you're doing so you're a channel that it
flows through hmm and when there's no desire you're just the wall that's all blocks everything it's so powerful so you're saying you've been reading this for the last 55 50 years I'm in my 56 year and now there's gonna be a whole movie made about it it's gonna probably touch millions and millions and maybe even dog like the whole planet because it's gonna go worldwide internationally you say that you're reading this every day what are some other things other rituals other habits that you have made for yourself and that make you what you are today
and keep you well there is not that many if I would want to do something I find somebody that's already done it and then I do exactly what they tell me it's a simple rule to follow i I don't read novels I don't watch movies I'd watch documentaries or things like that where I can learn I'm only interested in studying something that can cause me to become more of what I'm capable of being see I think we're all hardwired to do something really special with their life and that's all I want to do I'm really
good at what I do I could walk by a person in the hall like that I could tell them exactly what they're like I could read their energy like a book everything goes on the inside shows on the outside see we're gifted with with faculties of the mind that the average person knows nothing about your VIN tuition the will reason imagination perception memory that's what separates us from all the rest of forms of life we go through school never learn anything about it but you'll hear people say they have a bad memory there's no such
thing as a bad memory everybody has a perfect memory it's just weak they've never developed it our imagination your imagination is the most magnificent he's he'll said it's the most marvelous miraculous inconceivably powerful force the world's ever known I can use my imagination to project myself into the future and bring the future into the present and start living there you work from the imagination you don't work to it you work from it backwards from the result yeah so you're basically saying that because what I see happening I mean I I I meet a lot of
people and I see a lot of limitations and a lot of limiting beliefs as you may call them and one of them is oh these people that having success they have something they're special they're they have this or they have that or they had money or they had a good family or they have good environmental factors or whatever they may say and what you're basically saying denies all of that like how do you make those people which is most people get rid of those limiting things that they have oh I cannot do that I have
a bad memory you know they're the only one that can do it nobody can do it for them nobody can do it for you nobody can do it for me you got to do it for yourself you've got to wake up you see all we're ever gonna get is awareness we've already got everything the only thing we like is the awareness of what we've got we're God's highest form of creation there's nothing on the planet that will equal us well that's all right that's all any of us are after most people that are teaching don't
know what they're teaching 80% of the people that teach have never done what they're teaching so true oh you know it's there's very few people understand this very few really understand it I've been in it I think probably I'm in the business longer than anybody's been in the business that's still living I think Jim ruined come in wonderful died almost a year ahead of me you only met him once Jim and I've worked we both got hired to work for a company the same company at the same event and so that's where we met each
other now we knew of each other I think we respected each other but we're like thieves in the night we're always traveling somewhere going somewhere to do something Jim knew what he was doing most people in this business I don't think really know what they're doing there's a few that do but most don't like I think jack canfield us I think mark Victor does you know Jim certainly did probably like under 3% the rest are just like following the trend following the what they think they should be you know not what they really are so
let's just say and someone at home watching this and I have a goal I want to maybe most people maybe I don't want to make a billion dollars I just want to make sustainable income for my family $120,000 a year let me digress for a second then I'll get back to your question you just said something interested and I don't want a billion dollars I just want I have worked all over the world I mean all over Asia China South America and North America Europe and I'm always asking people what do you really want and
I have found most people don't want to be really wealthy what they do want is they don't want to have any financial concerns if they want to bind their suit they can go and get one if they want to take a trip they can take the trip if they want a new car they can get the new car they don't want to just run out and spend or buy they don't want to have any financial concerns to they want to wake up in the morning excited about how they're going to spend their day and the
third they want to mix with people who are upbeat and creatively productive these are the three things that people really want so in answer to your question if somebody's watching what's the first thing they should do well the first thing they should do is understand why we have goals not just to set a goal because most people don't set goals right they they're operating with a limited level of consciousness so they're thinking hmm if I could get a little more money and if I could get him to help me and her to help me and
this happened then I could do this maybe this is get a new car what we kind of understand is we're treating our life for our goals literally trading our life would you trade your life for a car or a house I don't think so so it's got to be something really meaningful and we're not taught to think this way we should sit down and don't give any thought to where the money's gonna come from where the help is gonna come from it's what do you really want Mike ed Hillary was a beekeeper in Auckland that's
right he wanted to climb Mount Everest it had never been done great people died trying to do it he went in 51 and failed he went back in 52 and failed in 1953 he stood on top of the mountain with Tenzing Norgay but he didn't know how to get there until after he had got there Edison didn't know how to illuminate the world until after he had done it the Wright brothers were bicycle mechanics in Dayton Ohio no one believed he could fly they had been trying it for years but they saw it but they
wanted to do it they didn't know how and they couldn't tell you until after they had done it now the first flight only lasted 12 seconds and the naysayers said yeah but they only were up there for 12 seconds they said we not only got up there we kept the damn thing up there for 12 seconds so when a person sets a goal they've got to say look what I want if I just let my mind roar I'll just wander use my imagination how do I really want to live that's what they should be doing
that's where it should start and then don't listen to anyone that tells them they can't go to someone who has done something and asked them what should I do and then do exactly what the version tells them simple formula it's not very difficult if it had been difficult I wouldn't have figured it out then what's stopping people ignorance ignorance guess thing that's that's all problems in the world come from maintenance that's the purpose of life overcome ignorance develop awareness the only way to overcome their ignorance is through knowledge and the only way to get the
knowledge is to study most people they finish school close the books that I've got a debts over I've never done open another book as long as I live we're screwed it's all over so that's that's powerful that's really powerful when I when I think about achieving anything I think I mean I think I've been fortunate enough to have a level of confidence that allows me to just that unconscious of how you said unconscious competence unconscious yes here stop and think of any large company I don't care anyone right you can go to the leaders of
that company and you can say who are your stars I mean the ones that are really making it happen and they've all got a few say what are they doing that's so different why don't you find out what they're doing to teach it everybody they all well everybody couldn't do it when are they doing it you know something the stars don't know why they're stars and they'll say well they're smart some of them aren't very smart smarts got nothing to do with it they have shifted their paradigm they've knocked the wall down and they built
an image and they followed the rules they just didn't know what they were doing I didn't know what I was doing there are over a million dollars here I had no idea what the hell I was doing I'd say I was cleaning offices that was almost incidental what I was doing I was reading this every day I was listening to the recordings every day I was reprogramming my subconscious mind see your program right now I've never met you before but I tell you something about you you've got a shy side to you you've got a
very sensitive side to you not everybody knows this but I know it you you can enjoy being by yourself you don't have to be with people you're sort of quiet and you rock by yourself you have a very sensitive and you're emotional and you're impulsive do this and so when you go to do it then there's another site too that's a polar opposite to that when you go to do it the other side says Matthew maybe you shouldn't so you've got a lot of do it don't do it going on in your mind you operate
almost perfectly from the right and left hemisphere of your brain you're almost right down the middle in fact you're good at all kinds of things that are totally unrelated so you have difficulty now I could keep going I could tell you more how do I know that I can read your energy I can feel it everything about you tells me that I don't have to ask your friend right I know I'm right I know you're a man I know you're a woman you'll say well God everybody knows that no they don't babies don't know babies
don't know the difference between male and female the baby has to develop an awareness of the difference in gender well at a very early age we put a cap on awareness and then we say now it's all about the intellect and so we've got lessons in school and you got to remember what's in the book and if you pass the test you get the degree there's all kinds of people walking out of schools with degrees they're going crazy by degrees and yet they can't find work they're broken you got people that have a doctorates in
economics and they're broke how could that happen because they don't know how to use the information they've gathered these higher faculties we've got are like magic in fact that brings up some them I might I work I work conventions a lot and that's rightly lately as they used to and frequently added to mention frequently they'll hire a magician and illusionist sometimes and if I'm working the same convention every now and then the magician will want me to be part of the trick and so I see how these things are done well they may have a
box and they have a pretty girl in the bikini or something put her in the box and he takes them taps the box a couple of times like that I jump out of the box and the people are blowing away these hot a lot happen well if you knew how it happened it's so obvious the biggest job for the committee's for the magician is to know that you don't know what they're doing they're gonna remember that when you find out what's happening it's not magic any longer but when you study your personality and you study
life in your study or mental faculties that's real magic an approach like abracadabra by itself means what you say it becomes yeah I just found out like it's winter last week from a magician said like you know why I say abracadabra what I say becomes that's like that's right that's very good that's very good so what is ever Cadabra what is it abracadabra abracadabra is when they do the trick yeah no but I mean what language does it come from is the meaning of it I don't know exactly but it definitely means if you search
abracadabra when Wikipedia it says meaning what you say becomes which means your words create reality you sure which is exactly what we're looking for it so I had so many questions that I could never gonna I'm there I'm not gonna ask any of them I think this is so interesting so I wanna keep the floor like this um I I have a theory and I want you to really lab rate on it um most people say oh I'm depressed more like there is there's some percentages in the MEC like so many people are probably are
depressed yeah and like how can you be the prat you you're a human you have the power to control your own will how you're depressed and what I think happens is when you cannot see a better few I can tell you exactly what happens I can tell you exactly what happens what I quoted Andrew Carnegie a few minutes ago he said any idea that's held in the mind that's emphasized that's either feared or revered begins that wants to clothe itself in the most convenient an appropriate form available depression comes it starts out from ignorance dote
and worry I've got a chart I show it Donen worry is on the negative side of life understanding is on the positive side don't worry comes from ignorance understanding comes from knowledge but you got study to get it doden worry are a psychic disease it's an intellectual exercise they're using their intellectual factors to build a negative idea and that's all they see they take and internalize that and they get emotionally involved with it it goes from don't worry to fear they've emotionalized the doubter worry turns into fear the fear is in the emotional mind and
the emotion must be expressed through the only instrument that can be expressed through the physical body so it moves the body into a state we call anxiety anxieties never expressed anxiety suppress the suppression turns to depression mmm they followed up inside they suppress the fear it turns into depression the depression turns into disease the disease turns into decay Sinclair Lewis was right he said we don't die we kill herself now what is the opposite of all that you'll go from ignorance to don't worry to fear anxiety suppression depression disease disintegration go over on the other
side you go from understanding to emotional state called faith you just know it's going to move in the form because you understand the law faith isn't believe in something you can't see strange thing about faith and fear they both demand you believe something you can't see why would people choose fear over faith because they're eight men so you go from understanding to faith the faith manifests on the physical plane not as anxiety as well being the well beings not suppressed it's expressed and the expression turns to acceleration you're building energy and that is because there's
no disease you're at ease and that turns into creation not disintegration it's all it's all a mental trip that they're building I'm going now they go to the doctor the doctor gives them valium or some kind of drug to cool a mote he gets them numb so they don't know what the hell they're doing I could show anybody how to overcome depression if they'll do it but they got to do it and that's where repetition comes in I heard a beautiful story about how we're always tweeting the effect and now we're not enforcing the the
cause and what what makes stuff happening and there was this beautiful story about if you have a cocoon in which insiders there's an animal that wants to get out of it right what people do is like oh this thing it's hurting is trying to get out give him valium basically what we're doing humans so if you would do that you would not only hurt the living thing but you will also stop the growing process so I think you probably have a better version of this but so many people look at the diversity like it's oh
and first they go away repression fear all the stuff when it's something good makes you grow makes you become someone better well like he says in every adversity has an event the key to something great problems are nothing but opportunities you just gotta look at it figure I'm gonna figure it aside you know they're not bad things they're good things see pardon me we're conditioned first of all if you stop and think where do we come from there's a little particle energy of energy from a little particle of energy from dad that's the moment of
conception and then an attractive force is set up all of mum's DNA and olds dad's DNA all their belief is locked up in those cells all their conditioning 280 days later you make your debut on the planet you're born then and your subconscious mind is wide open it's like that glass you can put anything in there you want the subconscious has no ability to reject it is a moral it is totally deductive it can only accept it cannot reject so then the baby is surrounded by the people that's in that environment if you took a
baby out of Serbia somewhere near just outside of Belgrade sure and you take that baby to the suburbs of bejing or maybe New York that baby will grow up fluent in Chinese or English and have no knowledge of the Serbian language and yet it was born to Serbian parents the environment that's what Queens here's a greater influence than genetics however you look like your relatives because of the genetic conditioning and then on top of that you've got the environmental conditioning well all that conditioning is repetition in your subconscious mind it forms something we call a
paradigm a paradigm is nothing but a mass of habits for a mass of ideas that express themselves automatically without any conscious thought and that paradigm keeps us going it's in our subconscious mind we gather information in our conscious mind but it's the subconscious that promotes moves the body and if we don't change that paradigm nothing happens that's what I did when I get into this book it was the repetition of information that was totally foreign to me it was totally foreign to anything I had ever heard and as I start to listen to it on
recordings I couldn't stop listening to the record I had never heard anybody talked like that I thought wow anybody can have anything they want what if that's true well I found out it was true that's the way we live and I think I mean the reason I'm doing this interview in the first place is because the people that are ignorant and that they say that couldn't be done or it's not possible for me or he's special or I cannot do it like how can you see about Proctor right now on video see where he was
what he did and where he's at right now and still not be moved by it I think that's the power of it you know when I was given this book you would never have hired me to do anything I was losing right on the 14th of this month I'm being recognized in Carnegie Hall in New York congratulations well but there's such a difference in the two situations so totally different you think how does that happen it's in here you see you're putting this on YouTube or Facebook or something if a person will watch this every
day the whole thing not just a little bit of it not just a little part that really got them interested but if they got up an hour early every morning and watch this every morning and they did that for an entire year I guarantee you they would double their income and I don't even care what they're earning I could show anyone how to turn their annual income to a monthly income I can show anyone how to become a millionaire but they got to do exactly what I'm telling them and people say well that doesn't make
any sense to watch it every day not according to the consciousness that you're operating with but if you're operating with my consciousness who would make a hell of a lot of sense I get up 5:00 5:15 every morning and they study so four person said I'm gonna get up an hour early that's one hour every day that's nine 40-hour weeks in a year so you'd be studying what we're talking about concentrated study for nine 40-hour weeks in the year their life would just totally change just to prove that point when I was fifteen I didn't
I didn't read anything to that point and somehow I got a video view showing subconscious mind conscious mind how things go in how things work and I was like wow that's interesting I started being curious so from that point I was like this doesn't make any sense I'm gonna trust the process let's give it a try for one year I woke up one hour earlier and read which would make no sense to me at that time because I was going to school like I was not I was taking away from my sleep like and I
just I just read like I think a hundred books that year and now I have my own agency I'm I couldn't be more happier about what I'm doing and people are fascinated by it but to me makes no sense why you shouldn't be so it's just like what you just said I did and in other words because what I convinced in my mom was like I may not believe in it right now I'm just gonna trust it you're doing something else that you probably wouldn't talk about but I know you're doing it when I was
talking to Scott he told me that you were really good at what you do and you were promoting think and you weren't getting paid I'm not well you know that's interesting he said if you're not willing to do more than you're being paid for you'll never be paid for more than you're doing giving is one of the laws of the universe you've got a willingly gift and graciously receive and if you have to think before you give your trading you're not giving that was probably one of the best investment you've ever made first of all
you're dealing with one heck of a good crew with Scott and Shawn I mean those guys and people they're class they are really class act and you're gonna make connections through that that and it feels natural by oh that's right it is natural that's why you're doing it and I I think when I started the agency I have right now I have a media digital agency every one of my friends that had agencies and I was connecting with like old she charged twenty thousand up front and it felt so weird to me like how can
I charge someone without giving them something back first it feels so weird to me for from one reason or another and I just went and just offered my services freely now I don't have to do that but I did it for this because I feel so powerful and people saw like wow it makes sense you're giving me this value it makes an enormous amount of sense to just give you a percentage of it and that's how I'm able to make hundreds of times more than the average of my country which is even I think it's
close to Serbia which is nothing in terms of like but that's that's exactly powerful you see well what you just said is a good example to most people blame their environment like there's people here in Serbia I heard it three or four times today I was in two or three of the television stations and they were telling me about the economy here you know it's how bad it is in tough times I said nothing to do with it nothing to do with it I said I was over in Dubai here not long ago they're skiing
in the middle of the desert in the morning I skiing don't tell me that the environment move see exactly what we're doing today I mean just this this recording and it'll hit millions of people you'll get millions of viewers this is just gonna gruppen up now how does that happen I've got a studio that I built my backyard and it's got four cameras I can work I can work it myself I have an IT guy in Phoenix and he can come in and switch cameras for me I can stream all over the world from my
own backyard I think it's so magic I walk up and maybe walk 50 feet and I live in Toronto so it snows in Toronto I had the heat I had the sidewalk heated between the hosts in the studio subbed on matter of it's known is so there's no snow and I walked into my studio and I go all over the world from their house that happened it happens because we're aware of how to do things so somebody's watching this what you've done in the past has no bearing on what you're gonna do in the future
unless you let it mm-hmm it doesn't make any difference everything that's happened in the past has been absolutely essential to make you who you are to prepare you to do what you're gonna do when the movie thing comes out you not only want to watch it you want to get your head right into it watch it a thousand times because now there's no excuse people say I don't want to read okay here's the movie what's your Excuse now you don't have any see that's where the book is a book isn't a book is a movie
painted in words that's what a book is you're just going one picture to another so definitely the movies probably gonna come out three four months from now which is starting 2017 and it's is definitely for anybody watching this is like if you cannot read a book for whatever reason we should definitely good like that movie is like this picture they're doing it they're doing a real top job on it yet it's amazing like I'm congratula phenomenal director the whole crew is just the energy there is so incredible it's impossible I wasn't working on that with
cheese I just loved it yes that's a reason I'm in it too it's it's so fascinating to me to see that energy coming together like that's gonna be huge and it can impact so many people so I'm really excited about that last few questions this is like kind of the three questions I have for everyone I'm interviewing and it may apply to you may not but let's just ask them if you were right now to be standing in front of your 20 year old self let us say I'm you 20 years old and you know
you right now with the mind you have what would you say to yourself in a few sentences so you don't have an hour you just have like two three minutes what would you say to yourself why would you was the people what I know no yes I would get into network marketing hmm I've never been in it but I do a lot of work around it I think it's one of the most phenomenal areas for a young person to get in and build a great organization they don't have to have any money but they've really
got to apply themselves they say only two or three percent win in network marketing well that's true in every industry but there's the opportunity to build a great organization with no money and you can help a lot of people and that will that will make doctor what it's all about like you're helping millions of people with this our company made a commitment we're building schools in Africa we built a new school every week and a half our company does I mean our goal is to build running every week and then every every day we're just
we're out a week and a half right now and like you're doing that like so many amazing people are just doing the same things and it makes no sense to the ordinary person like why would you give your money to build schools for people when Tony Robbins is feeding 30 million people when you are building schools every week when you see if I were 20 again and no one I know now I would get into something where I could grow where I could serve other people and earn profit doing it you've gotta earn money profit
is the first order of business if you're not earning profit you're on your way out of business but that's not the purpose of any human organization the purpose of all human organizations is to make life more meaningful so you gotta earn a profit to keep the company growing but the purpose is to make life more meaningful if we take all the people out of this building you don't have a hotel any longer you've just got a building full of stuff the hotel is the people the employees that's what I would do powerful ok this one
is I got I always get fascinating answers on do you have any regrets for your life no absolutely not I'll tell you I probably would have said yes 15 20 years ago then what happened I was watching Johnny Carson show The Late Show and Johnny Carson wasn't there George Carlin the comedian was sitting in for him and they're both dead now Vincent Price a movie actor was a guest he's gone too but Vincent Price had just shot a pilot and of course they told the public on television it's a new series well there wasn't a
new series at all they were hoping it would turn into a new series they shot a pilot if they got good ratings then they chew dozens more than right and so after they went through the small talk Carlin says to him well tell me Vince Vincent tell me about our new year new series and Vince says oh I think everybody's gonna love it he said it's about a train and it's like a magic is you can buy a ticket to go back in your life hmm I would pay for that any point you want to
start over and he said when you get there I'm the conductor on the train I stopped the train off and he said I think everybody would like to go back and start over at some point don't you think so yeah I could think of a couple of things or I could have started over in George Carlin said no I don't think so he said if I went back and changed anything that had happened in my life I wouldn't be me and I like me oh god what a perfect answer no regrets everything that happened was
necessary to make me who I am to primary repair me to do what I'm gonna do and you see the crazy part about it none of us know what we're gonna do we think we know right we got a track but things happen because people have regrets I mean if you want to go to nursing home and just feel that for a half for a minute if you're looking through their eyes you can see there's regret well most people do but most people don't do anything you see I often say how do you do something
well there's way their goals come in that's where the purpose for life comes in you're gonna have a main purpose you gotta have a purpose for life and you've got to have meaningful goals they've got to be meaningful you're trading your life for it hmm like I often say in a seminar I want you to imagine you're at the end of the road and you know you're at the end of the road your body's so weak they've got you tight in a wheelchair or they've got you in a crib bit so you don't follow tell
yourself right just imagine all you can do is relive your life I want you to imagine you're there and you go back and think kind of wonder if we had to move there what would have happened if we had have started that company remember we're going to sell the house and start that coming in we had it done this I wonder what would have happened and they said if I could only do it over again I said wouldn't it be terrible spent the last Asia or life like that wouldn't it be better if you look
back and say wow what a trip gotta remember we did that remember we blew our brains out on that we lost everything we had but you know when you lose it big enough it can be accelerating and then we did this and what you're doing he's laying there and you're reliving your whole life and that's the goal gotta have the goal that being said if there's something you can do right now is get the book stay updated when the movie goes up and it goes live watch it I like there's a saying on all of
your seminars on the tickets if you'd have to borrow money for this do it it may be the last time you're doing it listen waianae when I read this I owed everybody I knew money but the guy that told me he said don't clean officer for somebody else doing for yourself and he told me where I could buy a used floor machine and some buckets and mops it was gonna cost nine hundred and eighty dollars I mean I didn't know anyone would lend me money because I never pay them back not that I didn't want
to I just never had any money well I searched and searched and searched and I found a guy that lent me $1,000 so when somebody tells me they can't borrow money I know that they haven't dried I think anybody can borrow $1,000 somewhere and that's what I did and I turned it into a multi-million dollar organization I sat down one day with my pen in this business they said I'm going to build a company that operates all over the world we operate all over the world so if you have to borrow money borrow the money
but get into the business actually do it and anybody wants my book you can get to born rich book you can go we give it away if you go on our site go to Bob Proctor calm or Proctor Gallagher calm and download some of the stuff we give a lot of good stuff away yeah and start listening to it what's this recording watch it a thousand times be the best time mister I already ever spent because what I'm gonna do I'm gonna reprogram your mind just through listening to me saying the same thing over and
over again you know wow so far Matthew I've enjoyed this there's been good I love it too umm let's finish with something let's give people three things to do read the book do this do that what would you say right now because I'll tell you exactly what to do that's for those Sandi Gallagher is my business partner love her she is really good she was going through a very tough time personally a number of years ago we were in Phoenix we're doing a seminar I had to leave catch a plane somewhere and she said before
you leave could we get together maybe for a cup of coffee could you I want to talk to you and I said Jim so we went across the road to a coffee shop and we were sitting there and she said could you give me two or three ideas that I could do everyday that would help me through this I said sure I didn't know what I was going to tell her but I knew I would tell her something so I said every day I want you to take a pen and write down every morning write
down ten things you're grateful for tenth it but you've really got to be grateful you've got to feel it you're really grateful then I want you to send love to three people that are bothering you they're bothering you you don't like them they've got nothing to do with it you're thinking bad thoughts about them you're putting yourself in a bad vibration send love to three people that bother you and then take five minutes and be quiet just be perfectly quiet and asked for guidance for the day everybody in our company does that every day she
started to do it like that everything changed in fact my assistant Gina has been with me over thirty years she was working in Phoenix and I phoned Gina I told her what I wanted within an hour she had a pad printed at Kinkos and had it the 10 things from one down to ten you know this time love to three people who bother you'd be quiet for five minutes me sandy was going to Hawaii with her sister and her mother the next day she got pads made for both of them and every morning they started
to do that it changed every one of their lives we give that out now in a lot of our seminars and we train the audience to do it start every morning write 10 things that you're grateful for send love to three people to bother you be quiet for five minutes and ask for guidance for the day it's a winning formula thank you so much Bobby's been incredibly experienced my pleasure taking so much for taking I wanna congratulate your crew you get a good crew here amazing crew amazing people and for the people are watching this
just take that advice just trust it just trust the process give it a year give it three months give it six months and then it see what happens this has me Matthew pleasure to have Bob Proctor just before I want you to come here a little closer come here I want you I want you to take one of these things in your hand right now and I want you to write down what you really want doesn't matter how you're gonna get it write down what you really want you'll be glad you did thank you so
much let's get it on - applause I feel this [Applause]