Uh, the reason I chose the title is because anyone who's a sailor knows the term red sky at night, sailor's delight, red sky in the morning, sailor take warning. And so I chose the title because I thought it best represented a phenomenon that I had seen through living in Hawaii, knowing Maui people, having been to Tahiti, having spent time on the coast of Peru, I saw this recurring or odd thing which was that red hairs seem to show up in deep antiquity. So this is the area of influence that I'm going to discuss. It's the
Polynesian area called the triangle and the coast of Peru over here. Now Thor hired doll who of course was the man behind the kiki he did a fair bit of research from uh reading oral traditions from South America where it spoke or they spoke of this ancient people who were red-haired, light-skinned and they were ancient travelers from Peru into Polynia. He was vehemently attacked by academia for it and by the Polynesians themselves because both said no, the Polynesians came from Southeast Asia and they were the only people to um inhabit what is called Polynesia. Now,
he proved that it was possible with a very simple raft with a sail in 111 days to go from Kyo, Peru to Polynia without steering it. They didn't bother trying to steer it. They just wanted to see what the winds and currents would do and it took them to Polynia and he became world famous after that. The island that really took his interest after that and which he thought he would have been able to have sailed to is Rapanoui, also called Easter Island, which is south the southern part of Polynesia. And because of the winds
and currents that exist in the Pacific, they're never static. They're dynamic. So over the years, different currents can change position, and you can without too much difficulty sail from Peru today to Rapanui. Oops. Sorry, I'm having trouble with this machine. Oh, sorry. The computer's frozen. It's completely crushed. No, it's it's it has crashed. Uhoh. Heated. Okay. I want to restart. Mouse doesn't work either. Wow. Okay. just have to. So, any questions about the Inca while we're waiting? No, please somebody, you know, uh Hugh cuz I know nothing about how these work when they don't work.
And that's the great thing. You just turn them off and turn them on. So, if anyone has any questions, I No. Somebody get me get a microphone for the audience because I don't know what to do. Okay. Okay. Sorry, I'm the voice. Okay. Yeah, we got an early question and answer session it seems. Anyone do I can't actually see anyone. Oh, I've got one. I got trouble. Um on the on the larger rocks, the early construction phase, there are very several small nubs or knobs on the rock. Would you care to comment on on them?
Do you think they're during part of the construction or were they left on for decoration or anything? Do you have any thoughts on those? X that is one of the best questions in existence because at a number of places especially Oente Tambbo you have these oddlooking knobs that stick out and the same thing in Egypt and the conventional story is that the Inca did that in order to be able to help raise the stones up. So by having the knobs there you could loop a rope there and then that would help to hoist it up.
Now the question I had was well then why didn't they cut them off afterwards? Because if the precision joinery is so perfect, why would they leave something aesthetically ugly like that? No answer. The other thing is that some of the largest blocks don't have these knobs. It's more likely that they represent some kind of solar markers because they don't tend to be on a on a northern side. They tend to be on the east, south, and west. So, it's as if as the sun is moving, these knobs on different days cast different shadows. relating possibly
one to another or they could represent star systems or something or you know constellations or stars but um I it's one of the you know I don't mean to demean conventional archaeology but when they go out of their box and try to answer questions like kind of dumb in dumb ways like that well it's a way to lift the stones it's like that's a hell of a lot of worked just, you know, to get that knob in the first place means you have to remove all of the stone around it. They would have thought of
something more intelligent as a as a lifting aid than that. The thing is that not only are there the knobs, but they're also in some places concave areas like at Sakaan. And then you say, well, if the knobs were for lifting them, then what are these sh these depressions for? And they say, well, you take a tree trunk and when you're trying to lift the stone up, that's a place where the where the the tree can be, you know, the end of the of the piece of wood can go. So again, you can push these
40 ton stones into position. Another thing, you know, honestly, you know, it's not that it offends me, it's just that that's why I bring engineers in and ask engineers, how would you have achieved this? Because an engineer is an engineer. An archaeologist is not an engineer. An archaeologist is also not an expert on spiritual things. And when archaeologists get into things about, well, the Inca believed this, it's like based on what? Well, because we think the cat represents the so- and so. It's like, have you asked the actual people? And finally, before I start this
again, that's what really offends me is when so-called scholars or scholars, if you want whatever scholars, when they don't ask the descendants of a people their story, that's racism. You want to know what the how the Inca lived, ask the Inca or the descendants of them or the Rapan Newi or anybody on on Earth. That's where you get the story. Not from, well, we're digging and we think this pot represents something. It's like come on that's childish at this point. It's to 21st century. Anyway, now that I've had my rant. Okay, we're going to do
the questions at the end now. Okay. So, on Rapanoui or Easter Island, you find these amazingly huge heads. And later on or soon, very soon we'll get into the fact that they're not just heads. There's more to them. But for some reason amongst the Polynesian people it was supposedly the people of Rapanoui who were the only major megalithic sculptors and some of these are 30 ft tall. Now again the conventional story of the populating of the Americas is that everybody and that means absolutely everybody crossed the bearing land bridge during the ice age from Siberia
and traveled all the way down to tiara del fuego. Um all again like all the way down to ti del fuego which is down here by walking because these people were too stupid to know how to sail. That is what they're inferring in places and this is my place of greatest interest is paracus. You have skull after skull that have red hair. Native Americans have black hair without exception as far as I know. But for some reason on the coast of Peru and also in Polynia, you find not only stories of ancient people with red
hair, you have people walking around that still have red hair, not descendants from people who mixed with Irish and and um Scottish people, but some ancient race. The conventional story of the populating of Polynesia is that they came from Southeast Asia and then down through Tonga and Samoa about 150 AD or this the numbers change all the time and they get to the Tahiti area. They go to the Marquesas and then they branch out north to Hawaii, southeast to Easter Island, also called Rapanui, and southwest to Alteoroa, which is called New Zealand. However, that's not
what the native people say. But again, native people don't tend to be asked, you know, the story of of their actual history. And it's because I've been involved with native people all my life life that this offends me. So this is what's called the Polynesian triangle and in general these people all have the same bloodline more or less from Hawaii to Rapanui to Aeroa New Zealand and everything in between. They're all the same family of people. The odd thing is that Thor Hired Doll, who was fascinated by this ancient story of the existence of this
red-haired ancient people who he dangerously said were white-skinned, which automatically offended the native people. But he found as well as the Moai structures, he found constructions underground like this one which are megalithic and have since been rearied because the people of Rapanui don't want their ancient constructions to be exposed to the elements because they break down rapidly. They will re begin excavations on their island when they choose to do so. But one phenomenon that existed again are these giant moai figures. And on top of some of them are these these uh top knot things. Some
people have speculated that their hats, but actually it's more likely that that was the color of the hair of the first people. Now there are the stories of this character called Veraocha or Kantiki Veraocha and that's where Thorhired got his Kantiki from is Kantiki Vericcha who was a Peruvian ancient person or people who were seafarers and supposedly the origin of these people was again this intriguing island of the sun where again you have these you know the the the gate of the sun and on the gate of the sun you have this character which is
the Kantiki character Kantiki Veraocha that's more of a expanded representation he's holding these two odd objects in his hands and one thing which I I wish to address is when people say that he's crying tears those are not tears those are actually puma shapes but especially UFO people or or Atlantis people say that he's crying for some lost land and that's not true. They are artistic representations of Pumas, but the meaning is we've lost. This shows you the position of where Tiwanaku and basically the island of the sun is. Again, it's a very sophisticated place
of antiquity. Some speculate uh as Pnansky did using the oblquity of the ecliptic which is similar to procession. He stated that he thought it was at least 15,000 years old. Conventional archaeologists destroyed his career because of that. They say it's 2,000 years old, but they can't explain how it was built and what technology was used because again, most of them aren't engineers. And it's up to engineers to solve engineering problems in in in my mind. But you do have this character, this Verocha character with some kind of um headgear on. And here you have a
pot. And it might be a stretch, but I think that headdress looks very similar to the top knot that we see on Rapanoui. And again as I just showed you because normally these are two separate talks but at the Coranchcha in Cusco and Machu Picchu and places you uh you have this incredible level of stone technology stone working in massive pieces of stone or blocks of stone and again this is on Rapanui this is the only example it's called Venapu and the precision is as good as anything in Cusco it's all by itself amongst other
rougher construction. It faces west and it hints to me that somebody was there before the Polynesians got there and did some building. Now on the coast of Peru when the Spanish arrived they found seafaring craft with sails. this possibly could be a more realistic interpretation of uh of these sailing craft. And the the Spanish were quite in shock to see these these um rafts like flying past them. They eventually stopped them and that's how they found out where the Inca lived, but that's a different story. But one of the strange things is that in Polynia
you find the sweet potato. The sweet potato is um indigenous to the Americas, specifically Central and South America. So, people are always questioning, how did the sweet potato get to Hawaii and New Zealand? It didn't float. And this is a representation of the sweet potato that that has been found made out of coral in Hawaii. And it's also found uh the Maui people of New Zealand talk about the fact that the sweet potato has been there basically forever as shown here with very expensive dog food herb duck confident and sweet potatoes but also something that's
found in Lake Tittikaka again where the Vericia character comes from as well as the coast of Peru. Um, here this is a a boat being made out of this one reed called Totora. And Ttora is found, like I said, in Titikaka, the coast of Peru, where they still make these little boats out of, but it's also found in this lake on Rapanoui. No one knows how long it's been there. The Rapanui people used to build boats out of it. And elsewhere on the um on the coast of Peru, you have representations of the ancient people,
in this case the Mochce people having traveled on the Pacific, possibly great distances, not just up and down the coast. And this is the story that um one of the great Inca Tupacupanki traveled. He took two years and he traveled to two mysterious islands and uh he was living in Ecuador at the time but he disappeared for two years on these balsa craft visited two mysterious islands and brought strange things back that were not native to Peru. So it's believed that he possibly went to oh sorry that he possibly went to both the island of
Marva and also the island of um Isla de Pasqua which is Rapanoui and then returned home. The great Peruvian archaeologist Julio Teo is the father of Peruvian archaeology and he did a lot of of work on the coast of Peru as well as at other sites such as this one called Chavin which was thought to be the oldest civilization in Peru until a place called Corral was found. Chavin was thought to be 3,000 years old. corral is at least 5,000 years old. But the more the work that I and others are doing, we think the
history of Peru goes back before the ice before the end of the ice age. Now, my place of interest is a little town on the on the coast called Paracus. That's where we find these elongated skulls with red hair and also very incredibly complicated artwork. These people are thought by most archaeologists to have been very simple people, but their textiles were the most complex and oldest found in Peru. This is an example of one of the skulls we have in the Paracus History Museum. And the photo isn't as good as it could be, but that
is red hair. That is not hair that is oxidized or been dyed. That is natural um auburn hair which glints red in the sun. And these people are, you know, have very oddlooking skulls which oral tradition has told me also did at one time exist on Easter Island. Very elaborate ways of burying their dead. And this characteristic, this thing called the candalabra, which is a geoglyph 600t tall, if you turn it upside down, it is the mirror image of the Southern Cross. The Southern Cross is the navigational instrument if you're into star navigating in the
southern Pacific Ocean. And uh Senior Juan Navaro and I both believe that the Paracus made that figure as a homing beacon after they had traveled great distances. Unfortunately, the Paracas have no descendants and have not had direct descendants for 2,000 years. They left no written record. They've left me with the challenge of figuring out who they were. But what we do know is they traveled at least to Ecuador because this shell called spondulus is only found off the coast of Ecuador and it's found in paracus burials and it's more likely that the paracas sailed north
because the prevailing winds are from the south most of of the year and then reverses and comes back down than walking all the way to Ecuador and back again. This shows you another representation of two Paraca skulls. One's a baby and possibly the mother. Photo is not that great, but but uh they had red hair. The Nazca people who were the supposed descendants loosely of the Paracus had natural red hair as is also shown in this Paracus culture. Um mummified head. Um, there is a culture called the Chachapoas who are called the warriors of the
clouds and they have erroneously been said to have been red-haired people. They weren't. They were light-skinned people. But especially in a lot of new age writings, people talk about these mystical people um who were red-haired, but they weren't. Again, this shows you the theoretical um thought of pattern as to as to the migration of the Polynesians from Southeast Asia to the Marces to Tahiti, Hawaii, Easter Island, and New Zealand. I worked uh for two years on a project in Hawaii building one of these. It's a 62- foot voyaging canoe. So, I learned star navigation. I
learned a lot about the origins of the of the Hawaiian and other Polynesian people. And I was taught by old Hawaiian women whose knowledge has never been written down because they regard this knowledge as theirs and you know and has not been written in books. But I did meet this man who was the last of the great uh star navigators um Micronesian but he guided this one great canoe from Hawaii to Tahiti and back solely using the stars and it's been replicated ever since including from New Zealand to Tahiti to Hawaii and from Rapanui to
Tahiti to Hawaii. Now again the conventional thought is that there were people called the lapita who came from Southeast Asia and that they were the mother culture of um of the Polynesians but the Polynesians say that's not the story. There is um an island on Riyatea or there's a a site on Raya called Tapu Tapuatea that was up until the 14th century the central place where all Polynesian people from throughout the Pacific would meet yearly to discuss the affairs, family affairs because they were all one giant family. Uh conventional wisdom again says that the people
of Rapanui were the last of the Polynesians to move from Tahiti to um to Rapanui. But the oral traditions of the Rapanui people themselves and the Maui people and to some degree the Hawaiian people say that their origin is Rapanoui and that all the rest of the Pacific was um migration started in Rapanui and then went off in those directions. Therefore, I think maybe their original homeland to some degree was South America. Again, we have the representation of the um the red uh hats which are not hats. It's actually um the way they were used
to wear their hair. Now, what we're looking for in November is Dr. Robert Shock who was able to date the Sphinx at being older than Feronic Egypt to come to Rapanoui and for the first time tell us how old these sculptures are because they aren't just heads, they're full bodies. You only see that part, but the rest of the body is buried such as this, which most people don't know. And of course, the question is how and when were they built? Oral traditions say one thing. I want confirmation from Dr. Robert Shock to tell me
what he thinks based on erosion. Again, this shows you the um shows you the uh one example on Rapanui of perfect almost perfect joinery that we find in South America. Again, I think confirming the possibility that part of the bloodline came from there. And one fallacy about Easter Island is that people have written about some civil war that happened and that prior to Captain Cook who is pictured here in the middle that when he arrived there that the whole society was in decay these people were into cannibalism uh and there was a civil war and
they destroyed each other. Uh that's not the case. Um, it's too much information for me to be able to tell you in this presentation, but the oral traditions say it was after contact with the white people, as in Rogavine, who was the Dutch man who named um Easter Island, it was accidental, but as soon as they had contact with the Europeans, their society collapsed because it's the most isolated island in inhabited in the world. And Hawaii was devastated. that Rapanui was basically destroyed. The population dropped from 5,000 to 111 people. Fortunately, now the population's back
to up to about 5,000. This shows you again that these aren't just heads. These are full bodies that go all the way down. And this is what Polynesian head headgear looks like. This is Hawaiian, but the Tahesians were very similar. And this is a top knot. That's Maui. But that reflects the ancient tradition of how they wore their hair. And that's what we see in this. And coincidentally, um, and I went to Rapanui in February and we saw this guy. And this guy, this man is from the Tuki clan. And they're not part Scottish. They're
not part Irish. This is an ancient bloodline. And all of the Tuki clan have got this color of hair. That's just another fallacy is about this language called Rango Rango. It's the only hieroglyphic language in Polynesia. So some people say for some bizarre reason that the last of the Polynesian migrations which was to Rapanui from Tahiti for some reason they decided to invent a language un highly unlikely. It's more likely there is a similar language in Peru that looks like this and in Panama that looks like this. It's more likely that people migrated from the
Americas to there and they they had this language. But this was the first migration. When the Polynesians arrived, this was was possibly hidden from them. But some of the Rapanui people say that they still can read this even though Western scholars say that they've tried for a hundred years and can't figure it out. The thing is, the Rapanui people know, but they have not been asked in a in a in a kind and gentle way what the representation of their language is. So, they're not going to tell anybody. This just gives you again the size
of um of Polynesia and the fact that traveling from one island to another is not that difficult. You island hop for example from Easter Island or Aanoui to Pit Karen and then from Pit Karen using the currents and the and the um the winds. The currents and the winds are basically running in the same direction. They guide you from Pit Karen uh to Tahiti in the winter, but in the summer the currents change direction. So if you want to go back from Polynesia to Peru, in some cases you can do that. So it's more likely
that these ancient people traveled from they bounced or they jumped from island or island hopped to Rapanui to Pitkar to Polynesia again where this central giant um Tapot Tapoaya Marai was. There is residual sculpture that we find in the Marcesus in Tahiti. So massive sculpture in Rapanui, some in in Tahiti, basically none out of stone at least in Hawaii and basically none in uh Aero or New Zealand. So it's like knowledge began to disappear the farther from home they went. This is just a supposedly what uh what uh the people of um Tahiti originally looked
like. And these are mildly megalithic constructions, seemingly shaped stones in the Tahiti Marquesus area. A brilliant book written by Native Hawaiians talk about the first Hawaiians who were these red-haired people. And this book is in very small um circulation, but still on the island of um Kauaii, which is the last in the chain of the Hawaiian Islands, we find megalithic construction or at least the ability to sculpt and shape stones. and also these massive pawns that were made by these mysterious so-called Menahooni people who have been comically portrayed this way. But I believe they were
normallooking people who had red hair and were devastated by the Tahesians who came as warrior chiefs and wiped them out. Except the little memory remains in the oral tradition. This woman has is Hawaiian. She has natural red this natural color of red hair. Now what happened with the these first Hawaiians is that the Tahesians came from the south and so these people called the Menahune retreated north as far as they could go until they reached a little at all to the northwest and they left megalithic construction and this island doesn't have any water supposedly. They
also left carvings and um this man is one of the descendants. Unfortunately, he's wearing a hat so we can't see his hair, but the oral traditions say that the last of the menune when these Hawaiian warriors were approaching them. The few that were left, they left um from the Satal and decided to go home and home was Rapanui. Now in New Zealand, there still are people who have this native reddishcoled hair, but they're presently being persecuted by the government and by some Maui people because they seemingly represent an earlier culture than the Mauies themselves. And
since some of the Maui are into land claims, the last thing they want is somebody else to claim that they're the original people when it's necessary for their land claims that they're the original people. But I'm looking very much forward to going to uh not stir up too much because I have a lot of Maui friends, but I want really want to go to New Zealand and meet with some of these people and just hear the story they have to tell because I find it very intriguing. And this young woman is an example of of
one of these red-haired, you know, through all these hundreds of years, it still shows up once in a while. This is pos possible megalithic construction that exists um on uh in New Zealand. But any of these sites have been shut down by the government on behalf of certain Maui tribes who don't want anyone looking at anything that could be previous to their um having landed in Alteoroa. And of course people love to talk about this ancient lost continent of Moo. Geologists say emphatically and honestly I believe them. I don't think there ever was a continent
in the Pacific. I think because the minds you have to get into the mindset of of these people. They're not Europeans. We think in a certain way. It doesn't mean that all people think the way we think. The Polynesians have always been ocean people. Hawaiian spend half their time whenever they can in the water. They're at so so at home with it that I think their concept of their ancient homeland was water-based, but that every little dot or every city is the equivalent of an island. So, it's almost the reverse, but that's what I think
ancient Moo or Lamoria was was not this devastating thing that, you know, caused a continent to sink. I think what happened was that at the end of the ice age, the oceans of around the world rose by 350 ft. And so certain islands disappeared and that the entire chain of islands of Hawaii were either connected or so close together, a little continent. And the Hawaiians themselves subtly say that they have lived there for 25,000 years. Thank you. [Applause] Thank you, Brian. So, we now have time for a few questions. Um, oh, there's one already. Here
we go. Hello. Um, have you got any comments on the birthing stones in the middle of Hahu? The big red stones where the king had to be born in order to be king. Oh, those are called the birthing stones. Yeah, they're amazing. They're these they're megaliths basically seemingly shaped and there are only a few of them and not that many people know about them. But if you go and take, which they don't like, but if you take a stone and you hit them, they ring like bells. And they say that that's the place where the
royal kings were, you know, would be that would be the the place where the um the birthing would take place. I think those are much older than the, you know, the so-called Hawaiians, which I, you know, which I think of as the Tahesian people who came in the 12th century. I think we're not doing justice to our ancestors in general by making up what I think are silly stories of our civilization beginning 6,000 years ago. We're too smart for that. Our ancestors are too smart for that. They would have developed all sorts of things before
that. How could we possibly have gone from hunter gatherers and then in 6,000 years we're exploring the moon? I think um we're not doing justice globally to what ancestral people did. And um especially in pl you know in places like Peru and Polynesia the more you research or almost anywhere or Egypt or anywhere you see examples of ancient cultures that existed before the so-called dominant cultures. And in a case like um Egypt which I haven't been to but still most of the people who live in Egypt are not descended from the pharaohs. It's like most
people in Rome are not descended from the Romans, but people love to go, well, you know, I'm a Roman. And it's the same in in Peru. People go, well, you know, in Cusco, especially because it's great for tourism. My Inca ancestors have taught me, you know, this is what the guides often say because that way they'll make more money. We're being guided by an Inca. The majority of the Inca are gone. They were gone before the Spanish arrived. Erini and I have met two people in six years who we know are of Inca descent and
they're as tall you know most Peruvians are quite small very Indollook which is great but these two women are six feet tall and their features they're mainly Inca because it's been emphatic that you keep the bloodline going the same with you know Queen Elizabeth does that but they're very tall they're very sort of Europeananishy Basy something looking but they're not they don't look like the indigenous people. So that's just a point that even Hawaii I'm sure you know like David Hatcher children says and others have said the oceans in the past were not barriers they
were highways and what makes us think that it took the the construction of a chronometer to figure out how to sail you know these people use the stars for thousands of years I've done that it's not that complicated but on a subtle level I think it's our euro racism that makes some of us think that we're the only people who could have pulled this off when it's obvious people have done this for thousands of years. Sorry. Any other questions? Yeah. This guy here was first. Yeah. Yeah. Uh I've read I think Jared Diamond uh talks
about East Island and he mentions that uh one of the reasons for their own dissolution was that they cut down all of the forested areas that they had in order to build those statues. What have you ever heard of? Anything like that? Yes, I have heard that. And that's that's a complete lie. Okay. The Europeans did not find it defoliated. Uhhuh. There are still for There are still trees there that have been there for hundreds of years. Again, that's the racism. Arani and I met with the eldest daughter of the royal family who's been learning
her culture since she was 2 years old and she said Thor hired doll and no archaeologist has ever approached her family to ask their history. They love to presume and they love to make up theories and then after about 10 years it's like well I need a new theory because my theory is getting boring. So they make up ideas about how the moai were moved and all this kind of thing, but they never consult the people and that's offensive because she was like she guided us for four days and said this is how how they
were cut. This is how how they moved and it's all completely logical. There was no you know maybe there was mysticism but a lot of native stuff is just it's just logical practicalities. Mhm. Um, but that's, you know, again, I hate to overdo it, but it's like I I can't believe it when people go, I'm the world expert on the history of Rapanoui when they've never talked to the people who live there. Another very small question. Uh, in Japan, they oftentimes say that an awful lot of research funding is made available for research on the
moai. Um and in consequence uh it seems like certain companies in Japan have a kind of informal copyright on using those statues in different advertisements. Has has it ever occurred heard by you? Sorry. Have you ever heard that? Oh yeah. But the thing is um what the Rapanui people because you know they're becoming quite strong now and they actually you know Chile you know it's part you know so quote unquote part of Chile which means Chile controls it all food going to Rapanui can only travel either by one shipping company or by LAN airlines and
that's why the cost of living on Rapanui is higher than Sweden pro. It's insane. But they're developing or they're getting their independence back. And there was one case in point where someone used an image of a moai which is belongs to the royal family of Rapanui. They use that in an advertisement. And this woman whose name, she will not let me use her name because it's a delicate issue, but she said they took this company, I think it was a watch company or something, but they took them to court and sued them for $100,000 and
won because that they were stealing or misappropriating cultural, you know, cultural products of these people. So the yeah the Japanese have come and done some some good things in the past but now the Rapanui people like any people they want to start doing this stuff for themselves and that's why the two examples you saw where the excavations were done and it showed the full bodies which you know blew people away but they immediately afterwards ordered them reeried because the the sun the stone isn't that hard in most cases and so the sun and the salt
and the the rain quickly erodess them. And they said, "These are our cultural artifacts. Bury them again. If we choose to have them, you know, um, re-exavated, we will conduct the excavations because it's our island." And as a final point, I just want to say, you know, I guess I'm a proponent for the Rapanoui now, but um there is a moai which is about this tall in the British Museum when you walk in that was stolen from that island by British sailors aboard a ship called the uh Topaz. Um, and it was given to King
George V 6th, I think, who then gave it to the British Museum. That belongs in Rapanoui. It's not an artifact for museum. It's a cultural being from that island and they want it back because I was told by them they have stolen something from us. They should return it. And I think at this time in our history, it's time on some level to do that. certain things that people whose ancestors made should be returned to them. If there were 10 of them, you can keep nine, but give the ones back that they asked for. Colonialism
has to end now. We're all one people on this earth. And this this stuff can't, you know, you can't stud and especially human remains. Some museums still have people's heads. That's why my big drive is with the elongated skulls of Paracus. do not leave Paracus. And even when people ask, well, could you bring one to show here? It's like the skull doesn't want to go traveling. This is somebody's head, you know? This is somebody's ancestor. So, thank you for letting me rant. Any any more questions from the audience? Yeah. One, please. Hello. Uh, I was
wondering, have you done any research at the site of Amuru Maru? Uh, and what are your thoughts on it? Uh, I honestly am not that impressed. Okay. You know, it looks great. If for those who don't know what Amurumu is, it's a red sandstone wall and it's got these two channels that come down either side or one on either side of it and this cutout doorway. The thing is people say, well, you know, the Atlanteanss made that or the people of Moo made that or these people of master technology made that. You can see the
marks where the stone hammers were to to shape it. It's beautiful to look at. Maybe parts of it are super ancient, but it's become too much of a cliche place for people to go and think it's a portal or doorway they're going to enter. It's like, I don't think so. You know, it's a neat thing. There are weirder things around Cusco that may actually be portals because they looked like not lasers, but some kind of machine cut these cubes out that you can stand into and put your, you know, your chakras against this living rock.
But Amarumuru, I think, is just becoming too hyped, you know, for me. For you, it might be the way to Alpha Centtory. So um the the larger constructions, the older ones at places like Golian Tentambo and Tier One Arco, um have you any idea how the people who built these constructions got those huge stone slabs up the mountain? Would it have been like the Egyptians with a ramp making the pyramids? Uh there is a ramp there supposedly, but it might simply be a ceremonial causeway. We don't know the the you know that's why I love
bringing engineers there because you know I can show them the quarry is there. Uh these are the tools they had. They had to move it down this little trail unless they decided to you know drop them off the cliff into the into the uh river. Then they had to cross the river. Then they had to go up several hundred feet and then shape these things and erect them and make them fit like you know yes like two hands and they just sort of they just say no or I don't know but last um in February
we had a guide who took us up there and I've been there so many times I was getting arrogant about my knowledge level and he said this is how they cut the stone and we saw where a we saw literally saw where a saw mark is into it as if somebody had cut a from a loaf of bread and 2/3 or 3/4 of it peeled off and fell down and was move removed. But you can still see the saw cut. And I've taken two engineers there. They both looked at it and they said, "I have
no idea how they did that without technology, without high technology." And those are one man's has been an engineer for 20 years, another one for 40 years. And it's wonderful to bring experts like that there and just look at at their facial expressions. And what period are um would you date? Have they been dated? They haven't because like most people know, you can't really date stone again. The conventional archaeologists say that the Inca were building this thing, the Sun Temple, and for some reason abandon it without giving a reason why or when. But what the
oral traditions say is that that was there long before the Inca existed. Yeah. Possibly before the end of the ice age. And I I honestly as a scientist believe that. I think we're looking at what what they call Atlantean constructions without the Atlantis aspect. But we have to give them some lab. We have to give some label to the lost civilizations. And Atlantis is the best I can find so far. But especially in Egypt and in this part of Peru, not Tiwanaku because it's a god-forsaken wasteland. Why anyone would build anything there, I don't know,
but the sacred valley of Peru and the Nile area, they've been productive agricultural places for thousands upon thousands of years. And I think any sophisticated culture would want to live in one or other of those places. Right. Thank you. Hello. Uh you showed a slide um with um the population sorry coming over from the bearing straits down through North America then to South America and sounded skeptical about that. Would you were any other ideas where you think the people I'm sorry your accent is so so thick I'm a pathetic North American. Where do you think
then the people at pos if not the bearing coming over the bearing straits where would they have come from to South America well I think obviously people cross the bearing land bridge you know it's a land bridge but when some academics are so vehement about that's the only way uh they they aren't looking at the oral traditions or how simple it is to build a craft Thor hired took an expert from Lake Tittikaka an old Indian man to Egypt to build the raw because the Egyptians didn't have a clue how to build a giant reed
ship. This old, you know, this old man from Lake Tittikaka who built them 10 feet long. Uh, you know, Thorhyard said, "Will you come to Egypt and build one?" And he said, "Yeah, okay. Okay, but I need it to be 65 or 80 ft long." And he said, "Yeah, okay. I just So, you want me to make a big one?" You know, the man's a boat builder. It's not a sense of I can't build it. It's like, you want a big one? Okay. Well, we make more bundles and put them together as more bundles. And
that was the that was the man behind that. And the reason why we don't have evidence is because these are organic material. So to Torah lasts 10 or 20 years and then it's gone. So when people say, "Where are these great ships you're talking about?" You're not going to find anything. The sails are cotton. You know, the mass are wood. The hulls are made out of out of turra. You know, there there are no there aren't there is nothing left behind. What I'm looking for are artistic depictions of them so that we can see find
a trail of movement. Thank you. Back with the bearing land corridor has been exposed. There are some theories that the corridor will be so devoid of vegetation and animals it will be impossible to move through there and survive. But there is another theory that there was an immigration into America from the European continent by hopping along the ice sheet. Would a similar situation exist in the Pacific and would there be any chance of them hopping along the ice sheet landing on the ice flows to make their way to North America? Very much so. And I
think what we have to look at is is is we're not looking at one migration of people. We're looking at multiple migrations of multiple people from all over the place. It's also possible that the Phoenetians traveled to Central America. That's why the OM are so bizarre because you find these huge heads with, you know, with African looking faces and or also Southeast Asian looking faces. But if you look at the currents, the wind and the wa ocean current patterns, it's easy to sail. I think they call it the straight shot or something from Europe right
to the Gulf of Mexico. And the same thing, there's this thing called the Victoria Maui race that happens every May. It's a five-day straight shot downwind from Victoria, BC to Hawaii. And the Haida people of the the west coast of Vancouver Island say we are related to the Hawaiians because once a year we would travel. We would take two of our big canoes, make a catamaran out of it, have a giant sail, and we would sail straight to Hawaii, stay there until the wind changed direction, which was in the winter, then we would sail north
to off of Japan, and then sail east and go home. And that's what we're missing in conventional history, is the fact that we're we're damn clever people collectively as as humanity. And it's through the DNA testing, you know, that that we'll see how complex um all these different migrations were. And um I'm, you know, I'm will be intrigued for the rest of my life to try to figure out the tiny little bits that I can because it's just so cool. [Music] Hello, Brian. Um, I know you talk an awful lot about the Rapanui culture and
uh the Indians of the coast and the cultures of the coast in Peru and Chile and around there uh to talk about the ancient sites and the elongated skulls and their history. Have you talked to any of the Ko Indians in the mountains and in the Andes about what they the knowledge that they have of how these things were built and the the history of their culture? Have they told you anything that has not been published yet of the of the people of the Andes? Yeah, the Ko Indians and the Kaioas and all the different
indigenous groups in the Andes theas. Yeah, I'm just starting to get into that. Uh there are some as far as I know some preconceived things about the KOs. They're being they're being like hyped a little too much now because they're they're being spoken of as being the descent, you know, the spiritual descendants of the or that they're the descendants of the Inca and that's probably not true. They're probably the spiritual descendants. Um I don't think genetic they're probably genetically related but they're not they're not the Inca you know they're they're little tiny people. So it's
the trouble is that because of the church and the way some Peruvians are still acting, especially those who are Spanish people, they're trying, you know, the Inca are hyped in Peru because it brings in billions of dollars a year in tourism. Most most Peruvians know almost nothing about their history, which is very sad. Um, so even the the tour guides in Cusco have to go to tour guide school and the only thing they're allowed to talk about is what is in western academic books. They're not really supposed to talk about the or their oral traditions,
which is weird, but that's how the state still has control over after 500 years over the native population of the people. But yeah, I I would love to to to meet, you know, I've met Caro people, but I haven't been able to meet with them yet because I you know, I think maybe now I've got enough knowledge to be able to approach them and ask them intelligent questions, but it's taken six years. You can only approach, I think, certain native or or levels of of native knowledge once you have a good background. Um, so I
I think I I I would love to meet with the with the Caro if they will speak. In general, they're incredibly humble people and they're thought of by some people in Cusco as being secondass citizens because they're too Indio, they're too native. So that's the problem again in that P Peru like any country that has a mixed population has that is that um some people love you know their native heritage but some people want to uh not suppress it but not try to express it too much because it's like this is the 21st century and
let's get into cell phones and get a real job. you know Indian stuff's like in the past but if you forget your past you don't have a future in in my opinion So,
