we've been in the weeds testing over 400 agents I go to bed and I have agents doing work for me I wake up in the morning my agents have been already working all night we have probably at least 50 agents working for us I go into all these agents testing them with very similar problems that I I think there's 450 agents in total that we've tested so far there's some actually cool ones off the shelf that I think people can use this is a podcast with Adam Silverman the founder of agency we talk about which
AI agents everyone should use how companies are making millions with agents and how you can go from beginner to expert all right so Adam what are some of the most common use cases for AI agents you see I think there are some agents that are working really well across like every vertical so sales for example there's some really incredible sales tools some really incredible research tools out there can you talk about the sales agents more because the closer it is to generating money the more people are interested there are so many sales agents out there
there's Omni aomni it's incredible for doing like data enrichment for prospecting then we have another one called God mode it is so incredible I can literally go in have have you tried God mode no but I have to okay you have to I'll get you on the beta but really awesome tool I I was actually using yesterday I can go in and say find me every Fortune 500 CTO find me their LinkedIn their email do full data enrichment on it and you can build Out full email sequences all within their app what is like your
new one of the new tools that's your favorite I'm still like obsessed with Claude I've been using it every day I'm still very bullish on lutra AI so I'm using that for a lot of workflows I go into all these agents testing them with very similar problems that I have and then I find certain agents are really really incredible at certain tasks I have these kind of like little agent teams on every platform um that I used for different things speaking of Agents you have massive announcement to make right yeah so uh some awesome news
work sites announced our fund raise of over $2.6 million under the name agencies so A.C we've been in the weeds testing over 400 agents and we're really really excited to announce this fundraise to really help companies make sure they can get their agents into production so if I understand correctly agob is going to be you know one of the tools and agency is going to be more like holding company yeah it's it's really exciting so we have like a bunch of announcements coming up so we still have Integrations directly with crei with autogen um we
still integrate with laying chain llama index mulon all these uh players directly through aops but now we also have the ability to go out and build really really complex agents that basically any Fortune 500 company can start using Day Zero oh so you want to like pivot more towards like pre-built agents like there are going to be some agents off the shelf that we offer companies are coming to us with the craziest agent IDE as possible like truly like full n10 workflows that even a human team couldn't physically do but if custom Solutions are required
we're very happy to to figure out how to basically leverage our our expertise our knowledge our team of incredible engineers and go and build out these amazing solutions for them how big is your team right now so uh it depends if you count all the agents good answer good answer yeah I know because honestly I think we have probably I'm thinking like at least 50 agents working for us and uh like I go to bed and I have agents doing work for me I wake up in the morning my agents have been already working all
night there's some actually cool ones off the shelf that I think people can use most of you are waiting you're waiting for the right opportunity the right business idea the right time but if you keep on waiting you're going to miss the a Evolution me and my team have spent hundreds of hours testing different ways to make money with AI and I believe we found the best one in the new Society we help you go from zero to $1,000 a month with AI I even give you the AI agent I've built so you can make
money with it all you have to do is follow our system for getting client that's it so if you have good work ethic and want to make money with AI make sure to join it's the first link in the description there's one called Mindy what it does is it looks at your calendar and then it gives you a full like almost report on everybody you're meeting with and before I go into a meeting it gives me basically every data point I could ever imagine about a person this is really helpful imagine if it took me
let's just say 30 minutes or my assistant 30 minutes to go research everybody meeting within a day and i' meetings in a day yeah that would be that would be four hours of time and now this is something that before I even wake up in the morning the first message I look at in the morning is here all the meetings you have here's you know quick fact on everybody here's their LinkedIn here's maybe the most recent news article they're mentioned in here's some data on them that you know could make the conversation exciting and this
is just like this is off the shelf like this is not like crazy stuff by any means and the fact that this is only going to get better with better llms and like you know it's just like it's crazy for people who are running lots of meetings like this is and again it's it's not like um you know this is this is the boring part of the work right like researching stuff like you know looking people always think that um AI agents will take jobs but it's more like you know the the repetitive boring task
so you can do more of the fun stuff more of the creative stuff oh for sure like it sounds kind of crazy but I think the president gets these types of briefings and I almost have that every day and it really it's like it's fundamentally leveling up how I am I think like another you know very easy example anybody can start using today is like one of these notaker apps that you know exist in your calls so like you use like fathom and there's a whole bunch of different ones out there and it makes my
followup so much more meaningful it makes me you know really engaged in the meeting because I'm not worrying about taking notes and I think this is the type of thing where it's so easy to set up like as long as your company allows you to use them and long as long as like you have permission from people to record it's such a massive win I cannot wait for the day when we have like a complete agent assistant that just you know has access to your computer knows your goals knows what you should be working on
knows like your weaknesses like where you tend to waste time right and just like holds you accountable gives you real time reminders maybe we've like connected to like Apple watch or some other variable or maybe like you know AI glasses I think this is coming relatively soon and I think this is going to unlock so much like human potential right people always like don't like the word productivity right because you know people outside of business they just feel like it's a corporate term but just like human potential just imagine like how much you know stuff
goes to waste purely because people waste time you know everybody can write a plan in the morning but sticking to it is much harder right so so I think these AI tools will just make that much more doable and I mean yeah as somebody who likes to be productive instead of wasting time I just cannot wait for that 100% like the folks that induced are doing this I I've seen like some incredible work on their side um there's a few other companies I'm really bullish on the work of open interpreter so there's a guy Mike
bird from there he's doing amazing work and kilan they're all doing amazing amazing work there um and truly like I made a tweet about this a while ago but what I want is basically everything I ever do in my life to be fully recorded and I want to basically almost have like a coach saying hey Adam don't worry I'll take this off your plate you don't need to send that email or that newsletter you were going to send out I you know let me get the structure for you you can just review it and I
think the the big aspect we're going to see with agents and I think like you know maybe going a bit a year or two down the road and this is what I'm bullish on is that you're gonna go from being reactive where it's like a human asking to do something to proactive and that's going to be the biggest shift possible so I think right now everyone's battling and like one of the reasons like we're really like seeing a lot of success with AGS is because everyone's battling with reliability so right now like the fact is
even on the pro or sorry on the reactive front um it's it's still very important to make sure that this agent can do the task correctly but do you think it has to be like local or something like encrypted because you know if it's recording everything there's like big security questions there yeah I think the folks at Limitless AI have been working on this quite a bit um if they're listening to this like we we're always happy to chat I am very bullish on what their team's working on um but I think that there will
be you know maybe it's an Azure offering or maybe a gcp offering or an AWS offering where okay we now know that everything is being recorded it's you know by the user at big companies everything's already being recorded if you work at one of these big organizations you know every keystroke you make every you know uh every website you visit everything's already being recorded so it's not that crazy I think whether or not the organization wants to give the power back to the user to leverage that that's another question and also just like in the
physical world like if you go into any big city whether it's SF new York Dubai there's cameras everywhere right so I think the like privacy is becoming more of an illusion maybe like if you move into the forest or whatever but uh I think the what what people really have trouble with is having the AI companies like access to the data right I mean obviously if you work for some company it's kind of understood that the company you know you probably have a work laptop and you cannot access certain websites but if you're an entrepreneur
or like you know in a spare time people a lot of people don't want open AI to have their data right or anthropic what ever they they are really like afraid of um not necessarily like somebody knowing what they're doing but you know be having that trained on in the future and they just want to like that Assurance I mean that's why the interest in local agent is so big even though like most of the times it's just like the difference is so like the locally run stuff is just so bad and especially most people
don't have like the topof thee line MacBooks so they can only run run like 8 billion models and you know the difference between 8 billion models or like CLA son or gb40 is just massive right so it doesn't even make sense logically to want that but still the demand is huge because of you know people want that feeling that you know open AI or whatever isn't taking their data for sure and like we so aov just became hypoc compliant and so now we're talking to like a lot of these Healthcare companies and what we're realizing
is there are certain industries that I think will be ryant on local model it's a lot easier to get a CTO and a CIO to buy into let's run this locally then even if every vendor along the entire spectrum is hippoc compliant and everything like that it could still be like you know they don't want these infractions to say the least they do not want to have any issues they don't want to like you know have any risk but I I still think there's actually opportunity for like the most Cutting Edge companies in the world
to leverage the best models and still probably remain competitive in the long run so we'll kind of see how this plays over the next six months and we're going to do another episode I I know eventually and talk about okay like local models have now far surpassed like you know all all like uh you know close Source models but we we'll see ultimately what ends up happening oh you also predicted one my questions on my list so you know we've seen a massive R of Open Source especially in the last like two to three months
um AI images have caught up and maybe even surpassed closed models right um open source has gotten a massive win with Lama 3.1 405 billion is on par with the top closed models like do you think oh there is a going to be a day where the best model is completely open source I think that's the like dream of meta and I think mistol and a few of these other companies are really trying to to make that happen I think that it's possible I think that we're also going to see a Nexus point where it's
like a race down to the bottom in terms of cost so I think like we're seeing that right now I think that there's going to be a certain level where these models are so good that we don't need really much more incremental um improvements so we'll see over the coming months I think that you'll have a world where like local models are good enough um I don't know if they're going to be the best quite yet um but one thing I am extremely bullish on and we might have t chatt about it previously on or
offline can't remember but I'm very bullish on small models like extremely I think like the future is in very small like action models even when you think about an agent you don't need you know 400 billion parameters to go and conduct some research on the web and scrape some data um I think one of the big things that's going to happen is you're going to start seeing a lot of fine tuning and that's one of the things we've been working on AG Ops is like fine-tuning on the outputs building much smaller models or or fine
tuning on the outputs of basically Cutting Edge models and fine-tuning open source models this is I think going to be a big paradigm shift because you're going to have cheaper cost you might be able to do it locally um there's going to be I think a lot of work done in the space over the next year because right now we're just saying you know they're large language models let's give them as many parameters as possible let's try and like basically you know put every like you know increased context window as much as possible um I
think this is great on very generalized use cases but from everything we're seeing with like large corporations and Enterprises the reality that's you know I think what's going to be most beneficial is actually could we just get very niche done extremely reliably we don't need to you know know all about um ancient Rome you know to you know conduct analysis on financial documents yeah and I think U you know for those who are watching who like kind of thinking of opportunities essentially every company is going to need that right whether it is uh language model
fine-tuned or image model fine-tuned they're going to need something specifically made for them and most companies don't know how to do it so you know if you learn the skill and if you have a bit of you know inventiveness entrepreneurship this is a pretty good opportunity in the next I think year or so for sure like I think you need I I love time people this but like be the one at your company who brings up this technology be the one who people are like asking questions about I have one guy he messages me it's
hilarious I do these threads like almost every week about like what's the latest and greatest in AI agents and I post them on Twitter and or and Linkedin as well and he takes these threads and then goes and makes a PowerPoint deck and presents it to his management team every week now saying hey here's the cutting and it's so funny to me like literally like he's just he's taken my work I'm so happy for it it's the best thing ever I'm so happy he reached out by the way and uh he's he's presenting this to
his team now and it's one of these aspects I look at I'm like this is crazy like he's now becoming like an AI leader at his company by literally going onto Twitter and looking at my thread making a small deck about it and now he is you know by far like the AI like agent guy in his company that you know the Seau is coming to him and asking him questions so it's that simple like it doesn't be like it's not rocket science by any means it's it's a complete hack I mean just from my
experience right the fact that I'm in AI it like I'm getting access to people who are far ahead of me in business and in life because they're interested in AI right everybody wants to know at least a bit how it's going to impact their business you know how they can leverage it and being in the right field the field I mean I don't think there's a betteri better field better industry than AI obviously but you know just being in AI brings so many opportunities so I think everybody watching while you you might you know don't
want to have Ambitions to be like a public figure you should still become an AI guy in your social CLE because that's going to unlock so many doors that you can't even predict if you're watching this video you're already doing like the right step that's the first thing it's like you're already like light years ahead than a lot of people I know and I think that the reality is it's just like it's not hard like it's just like listen to a few you know podcasts listen to some videos form your own opinion I think like
understand what tools are out there test the tools like to me if I was and this might be a hot take but it's okay it's like if I was thinking about going and doing like a masters in engineering or if I was going to go do like a uh you know some type of it related role I would just go on YouTube for three months lock myself in a room watch every video on like AI possible and I I'm almost for certain you will come out here light years ahead than going and doing like an
IT certificate or a master like master and Engineering might be a bit different but I I'm saying like this is such a massive WID like it's just like there's so much content out there there's so much knowledge out there like I give away like 99% of everything I know for free and like I'm just like I see something cool I'll repost it I'll share it I I'm happy to you know kind of consolidate it so it's easy for people to understand but the biggest factor is like there's so much out there and even like you
know going and joining School communities and finding like people who are intelligent and are thinking about in the same way or even like creating group chats with you know on the cost side it's not very high to to make these like kind of think tanks uh for yourself oh yeah for sure and I mean now is the time really you know in the future when like your Uber driver is talking about it and everybody knows about it it's going to be too late like now everybody watching this really has the opportunity to be kind of
that AI Ford leader you know whether it's in the region in their company doesn't matter to what scale but you know why not for anybody who's like looking to learn more about like Ai and AI agents and everything like that um if you go to A.C our new website so agency um you will go and click on like there's a tab called agents you will find a list of like 400 I think there's 450 agents in total that we've tested so far and it's totally free um I highly recommend checking it out it's like the
easiest place maybe we can link it in maybe we'll Link in the show notes as well but this is like it's such lwh hanging fruit for people it's like go explore it like instead of like going uh you know one day if it's raining outside or something like that just like go like take that list and just start clicking on a bunch of the links and start looking at you know what's working what's not what you think is cool another thing I love to do is go make an email account that is just for like
AI tools and go and subscribe for all these players and what you'll get is you like anytime you want a good update on everything that's going on just go and scroll through that inbox I don't think you have to be an expert you don't need to be an engineer you don't need to have spent like 10 years in it uh all you have to do is just kind of lean in a bit test the stuff out and kind of see see what works for you man such a good advice this I love like these practical
tips you know that just like have instant effect how are you yourself learning about AI like we love Twitter like I honestly my co-founder Alex and I like in we we really just see it as like kind of for whatever reason in the AI space it's where we're seeing the latest and greatest news um I also do a lot of social listening so I have agents that are out there on the internet collecting data and then giving me like report every day on like what's going on what companies are getting funded um and if anybody's
interested like I maybe I'll be able to like kind of share this agent with you yeah that would be a good video actually yeah we can we can do we'll chat about that offline but uh okay I think from my perspective it's really really interesting that leverage like the tools to figure out the latest and greatest but also you got to just be in the right circles so following certain people will basically guarantee you're getting the latest and greatest news but at the end of the day there's certain people who are like you know like
yourself um we're trying to do a lot of like kind of this thought leadership as well and it's just a matter of kind of seeing everything making it really easy for people to understand if you're not like a big Twitter user you don't need to like post I think that's one thing a lot of people are scared of doing like you don't need to actively be posting all you have to do is just create your own you know uh account with whatever name on it follow a couple of the top people and from there your
feed will start getting populated with all the right content maybe it is the move to create a separate account because because it is so easy to waste time on Twitter because curate curating your feed is so hard like constantly muting people like muting words it it should have shouldn't be that hard but you know everybody who kind of is more active deals with this problem of like I want interesting AI stuff only right I mean I would pay for that if I could just do that manually instead of like trying to having to update my
muted word list constantly but still like most of the tweets I see are not like productive interesting AI stuff I Me Maybe you can give me some tips because you know so there's you can create lists which is not a bad thing um but from my perspective I think the best thing is just following the right people and then like looking through the following like the For You tab or I don't know exactly what it's called on Twitter but like that is great I think that's it's like really great um to find content um but
I think like like following the right people is the most critical piece um and that's kind of what we recommend it's just like you can really and you also the one thing is you don't want to be an echo chamber you don't want to only listen to it but that's why I think get to have kind of separate Twitter accounts that are like okay here's my AI Twitter account and then here when I want to have like worldly polit political views and understand everything else that's going on in society here's my other account um but
I think like it is good to kind of have that targeted here are like the hundred people I follow that I trust that are posting great content and doesn't take a long time you just need to go into these communities for a few minutes every day but as long as you're doing that repetition you're going to learn stuff guaranteed for some people it's not immediately obvious the return on that learning but just to give people something more tangible every company will want to keep those who are on the top right like on the top of
new things new stuff Cutting Edge as you said like the guy who's making presentation for his management team the CH the chances of him getting fired are very low right because like he's teaching others and he's benefiting the company more than he's being paid for which is always a good strategy but especially with like new technologies that AI you know if if the company is going to make a layoffs whatever you're probably going to be the last person on the list because you know you're the AI guy like they don't want to lose you like
you always bring the good stuff so you know everybody who's watching this who has a job if you learn Ai and if you you know teach your bosses and the higher up you go the better obviously like you you future prove yourself and you the chances of you keeping that job or maybe even getting promoted are much higher for sure so I highly recommend like testing things out seeing like like this is my one recommendation like I think you like these like kind of acual bits I have right here is like my notebook and basically
every day as I'm going through my workday I literally just write down things that I think can be automated okay so I have like literally like pages of like hey I did this workflow I think I can automate this what I do is I use this as now like a brain for me to think about when I'm looking at different tools can I use that tool to automate this process and it's such an easy thing for anyone to do it doesn't cost anything um and I really recommend like people like leaning in a bit there
because it will like at least now you have a reference point when you're looking at tools and looking at the latest and greatest stuff of what's possible and what what you actually can start kind of automating okay so on that note like what would you say are some of the like most obvious like painfully obvious things you see other people do that could be like automated so easily research I think is the number one like I I have friends and and I love them they're my good friends if you're watching this but like they I
have friends who are like Financial research and equity research and I think it's great it's a really really cool job um but it's one of these things that is 100% becoming automated it's you know a computer or an agent or what whatever you want to call a piece of software is going to be able to research more than you can cons this the information better now with it referencing so like a lot of the work over the past couple months has been like how do we actually Source where this data is coming from accurately the
second you hit off all these criteria of like you know being accurate being fast being able to consume more data you you can't even compete in that space um same thing with like the you know the agent I was talking about for uh researching people I'm meeting with you are setting yourself back by not leaning in and using this technology and it's like it's so obvious to me that like these are better than it's not even like human can't do these jobs it's just like there's no reason a human should be so if my assistant
had to spend four hours a day working on this that's four hours she would be able to be helping with a bunch of other things that that she has on her agenda so I'm very big on like figure it out I think like trying figure out what aspects are the most automatable in your life um and then kind of you know work backwards from there when it goes into the digital realm people have these weird feelings right but you can take examples with animals like you know horses are much better at certain things than people
or there's like some breed of pigs that can smell like some specific potatoes yeah yeah 10t underground and like no same person would try to compete with those pigs but for some reason when it's like AI agent it's like whoa whoa whoa no like that's my identity like I was doing that task like I think you might just gave me a tweet for today I like that I I never really thought about it from like the animal perspective but you're 100% right you know humans should be focused on human tasks like I you know one
of the I say it's like right on my LinkedIn it's like don't worry your job is safe because the reality is it's like there are inherently human parts of every role and I think the biggest thing you know if you're testing this technology is lean in and try and figure out which parts of these tasks are the most human and that's a that's the biggest when you can be making this is something that I think most people in the as space probably don't agree upon at least I don't see it being talked about but my
theory is that at least in the next 5 to 10 years before you know some major improvements to the LM architecture made the by far winner combo is going to be like human does the creative and like you know directional stuff while llms do the repetitive and you know llm stuff good task but right now people always think like okay there's like two extremes right llms have stopped they're not going to improve blah blah blah and then it's like you know oh AGI ASI super intelligence is coming in six months right like we have we
all saw these videos at the start of the year and now it's like six months later and like where's where is the AGI where's the ASI right so I think the actual reality for the next 5 years is going to be that humans do the things that LMS cannot do like reasoning like creativity the stuff that LM suck at and then just llms do everything else and people who Embrace this new way of working will just Crush everybody else I couldn't G more there's one company that we're good friends with so payman I don't know
if you've seen them um you should get so tyin from payman he's awesome he's built like an agent that can pay humans to do tasks that the agent can't complete so is like happening like so like think about a u let's give an example of like like writing a blog post or liking a tweet or retweeting something you can literally the agent could say hey we want to create uh marketing Buzz for this new blog post and it will go and say for every human that likes it will pay them 50 cents for every person
who retweets it will pay them a dollar and it will verify that the human's done it it'll go through the whole Loop and then it will go back and pay the human and this is the type of thing where like it's happening like this is like obviously they're on the cutting Edge I think it's an awesome company we're we we're very bullish on them working on some really cool stuff together um but it's like this is going to happen inherently these agents are they have limitations like you'd be maybe I don't know you could talk
to other people who might say they're you know are infinite and can do anything but we don't have AGI yet so right now like there are limitations with these things um I think it's really really cool to see that people are thinking about okay how do we actually leverage like keep humans in a loop in a necessary way like I think that's a huge huge huge win yeah and I think once the llms um actually learn you know what llms are good at and I mean maybe you can do it with a system prompt but
you know like basically we need the agents to have like a deep understanding of these are the type of tasks agents are great at don't bother human these are the tasks that agents suck at you know pink the human as you said proactively and like I'm stuck here can you help me out and then the human like unstuck the agent and I mean it will really be what you just said right all of us even the people who don't have companies will be basically CEOs or managers of large teams of agents and you know you
will just be overseeing different operations and I think that's like really empowering Vision dve we we'll send I'll send you a bunch of links to kind of put down below so we can get everybody up to speed as quickly as possible um and besides that yeah it's really really great getting to chat don't let the AI Revolution happen without you if you join the new Society in the next 48 hours you'll get a personalized plan to start your own AI business and you can do this even if you are a complete beginner because we help
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