AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT GPU Review & Benchmarks vs. 5070 Ti, 5070, 7900 XT (Sapphire Pulse)

no today there's some real competition now the shortest version of this review up front is that the 970 XT and the 5070 TI go back and forth a lot depending on the game especially in rasterization rate tracing Nvidia still holds an advantage so the quick version is at 4K Ras without RT for the recap the 970 XT and the 5070 TI are often within 6% of each other on either side that's in F1 cyber Punk Resident Evil 4 Starfield Total War Warhammer 3 dragons DOA 2 f 1440p and 1080p we saw similar results depending on the game sometimes the 970 XD can close the gap a little bit if it's behind there sometimes it pulls ahead a little bit just depends on the situation now interestingly because the 5070 TI is basically a 4080 V is it 3 or four we're going to go with four it depends how you count the ti that was UN launched but anyway because basically a 4080 which is therefore basically a 480 super that means there's instances where the 970 XT is getting really close to the 4080 super I think there might have been one where it passed it but we'll talk about that in raay tracing it's all over the place so this is sort of the downside to it where Andy's got some real strengths of this one it's also got some real still present downsides so an RT AMD has improved massively over its prior generation the 970 XT definitely gets uplift over the 7,000 Series in most instances for RT Nvidia is fiercely competitive here still uh and AMD for example gets absolutely crushed in blackm myth who K with Ray tracing against Nvidia but it is actually more competitive now in mixed RT workload games or sort of mediumweight RT uh situations depending on what they are so nvidia's biggest strengths remain in its feature set generally rate tracing efficiency in particular power consumption is pretty effective for what's output the features get difficult to measure for example do we measure MFG as multiframe generation or as multi failure generation anyway that's the fastest possible recap of this review nvidia's had a busy 3 months destroying the hype that it built for the 50 Series it really had a lot of ups and downs that launched I mean for example on the positive side but on the negative side there's been things like the melting 12vt high power cables the missing RS the the missing RS on the other C that they didn't disclose until after they were discovered the paper launch the fact that the prices aren't real even from its own first parties the line on stage about the 5070 versus the 4090 and actually we're going to be here all day if we list all the issues so let's just move to the 970 XT review before that this video is brought to you by the montac hyperflow series of liquid coolers the montac hyperflow aims to compete with other affordable liquid coolers by fighting on price to Performance in our testing cooler performance was comparable to others in its class the AR argb hyperflow has an illuminated pump block with RGB LED fans that have quality rubber bumpers for vibration damping the cooler has a six-year warranty and supports all modern Intel and AMD sockets and you can learn more at the link in the description below we're to keep this one really focused today let's start with the basics and these are RX 970 and 970 XT launch the day after this video goes up we already posted separate videos going into the specs and the architecture of the cards so we'll link that below but the quick recap is this AMD has made major changes architecturally for the rdna 4 generation which is this one there's two cards there's the 97 in the 970 XD there's probably going to be another card later that's lower end the basic specs of the cards today might feel familiar to the Vega era the cards are divided by a 56 cuu or compute unit and a 64 cuu model with today's focusing on the 64 and no not that one we'll review the 9070 later today as well so check back for that later today for TDP AMD markets them as 220 Watt and 304 Watts with board Partners having room to scale beyond that we'll test this today as well AMD is using gdr 6 memory at 16 GB capacity at 20 GBS per second and on a 256bit bust for both cards the vram alone will be advantageous in heavier RT workloads something we talked about yesterday in the 5070 review the architecture's biggest overhaul that we're aware of has been in Ray tracing MD has doubled the ray intersection rate moved to two RT accelerated blocks with a shared 128 kiloby memory moved to bb8 and introduced oriented bounding boxes or obbs to reduce or eliminate false positives and ra triangle and Ray box intersections AMD has also introduced a dedicated Ray transform block to help with transformation and again this is all stuff that AMD really needs to improve on because Nvidia has successfully sort of manufactured a category it's really good at which is real-time R Trac in and Intel even again sort of makes AMD look bad in some of those situations with the 7,000 Series so they needed to make some ground here and uh and we'll be looking at that today now for pricing this is a little difficult lately because it's just like nothing but for the card that you might remember as being built entirely upon and lies 490 performance at 549 impossible without the Four Tops four ter Ops of AI we did a quick look at Newegg for what was in stock and it was there was nothing it was all gone so when we checked New Egg yesterday the only card that was between $450 and $650 sold first party and not refurbished was the 7800 XT this is madness and if it were about 10 years ago I'd probably kick a video card off the table and yell something about Sparta but Madness nonetheless there's just nothing there the 970 XT and the 970 both should be within this range tomorrow in theory so we'll have to check back for that they are also likely to get scalped like Nvidia what may help is that there are rumors of Greater Supply than the 50 Series and likewise they may be less desirable in the AI at home segment than the 509s for example so because the reviews go up before launch we can't know the scalper or the availability situation right now as we film this so uh you'll get to you'll get to watch and find out but we'll do a follow-up to talk about all that and see how the uh the launch shook out either way we normally dedicate an entire section to talking about the various different Alternatives right now at the same price the short version is that there are none isn't that fun there's no options uh and so that makes the section very short anyway we're just trying to keep this simple today so let's go straight into the numbers Drgon stma 2 at 4K is a remarkably strong sh for the 970 XT so we'll start here this is going to go back and forth a bit in this Benchmark the 970 XT ran at 70 FPS average Landing it between the 480 and the 3090 TI that means that even taking MSRP at face value for both cards the $600 970 XT is achieving 95% of the performance of the $750 RTX 570 TI Prime but at 80% of the MSRP we want to caution that this result doesn't always happen the next game it doesn't sometimes a 970 XT is worse than a 50 70 so it depends on the game but this is a great start the frame time pacing is also comparable meaning that the frame to frame interval is not noticeably different to a human player the 970 XT leads the 700 XT by 14. 8% here the lead over the 570 is 24% at 70 fps to 56 FPS at 1440p the RX 970 XT nearly ties the Nvidia RTX 570 TI the ladder of which only leads by 3% it's measurable but you'd never notice this difference just like the 3% of Truth was measurable in nvidia's 570 equal 490 but you'd never notice that difference either the lows are also within variance the 5070 TI is basically an RTX 480 V3 or 4 depending on how you count them that means the 970 XT is also punching close to 480 super levels the 480 super was a $1,000 MSRP card that replaced a clinically insane $1,200 MP card before it giving us some perspective here the last gen Flagship makes us wish that AMD had something one step higher as well the 700 XTX still leads the new 970 XT holding an 8% Advantage here against the new 5070 the 970 XT leads by 21% the 700 GRE posts an even larger Gap to the 9070 XT as for owners on cards like the 2070 or 2070 super here this might be a good upgrade at 1080p the 970 XT maintained its relative positioning against the 5070 TI it's now at 145 FPS average to the 151 result on the $750 MSRP Nvidia model available on sale for only $150 more we've never seen an inverse sale where the price goes up but as they say so bold strategy cotton let's see if it pays off for them the 700 XT ran at 134 FPS average in the dragon stock with 2 1080p Benchmark given the 9070 XT and uplift of 8% as for the 7800 XTX it's still technically ahead of the new flagship rdna 4 card but only by 8% now for Final Fantasy I want to have a very clear disclosure here the numbers we're getting are repeatable they are however lower than what AMD is presenting in its public slide deck and they don't really align with the other nonr Trace performance numbers that we've collected so we re and everything we've been looking into it and we're getting the same results that's why we're going to present them however we do want to be clear that they appear to be outliers and uh so we're going to dig into these some more and just see if anything changes thus far we're getting the same results repeatedly I spoke with d b and he saw similar results in one of the games he tested we'll update you all in a hardware news or the 9070 review or something we don't think it's our test setup because it is repeating on both of the cards but it might be something to do with the particular scene that where benchmark marketing or something like that so anyway we're going to dig into this but let's present the numbers as they came out for now at 4K the 97 XT landed at 68 FPS average unfortunately for AMD that means that the 970 XT is worse than the 570 here the 570 leads the 970 XD by 13. 6% with it 78 FPS average the 570 TI leads by a staggering 43% at 97 fps to 68 whereas Drgon Aqua 2 was a strong position for AMD it's weak in this game it all depends on the game itself at 1440p the 970 XT ended up at only 2 FPS above the 700 GRE architecturally the improvements just aren't helping here the 570 TI ends up at 187 FPS average leading the 970 XD by 34% 570 leads it by 10% let's show how much of a tennis match it really is and go back and forth again Resident Evil 4 swings it back the other way at 4K the 970x now holds a 103 FPS average Landing it nearly tied with the 480 super that's a great spot for ry's card which it needs after that Final Fantasy showing we just saw the 970 XT leads the 700 XT marginally and leads the 570 by 31% the 570 TI leads the 970 XT by 3 and 1.

5% with the 7900 XTX 23% ahead at 1440p the 970 XT continues to rank alongside Nvidia the 970 XT is about 5 FPS short of the 570 TI making for a measurable but undetectable difference to a human just like the measurable but undetectable difference between all of nvidia's 8,00 480 cards that it's remade but all of that is assuming the 5070 TI has all of its RS if it doesn't then we'd see anywhere from like a 6 to 12% change in the performance TN the 480 super leads the 970 XT by 5% here the 7800 XTX was also once a $1,000 card and itself leads the 970 XT by 20% with its 232 FPS result against the new 570 the 970 XT holds a 27% Advantage at 1080p the 970 XT clocked higher frame rate than the 700 XT and landed just below the 5070 TI the 80 leads the 970 XT by 15% which isn't all that much when considering we've all been GID into thinking a 80 takes the place of a 1080 TI or something it's not the high-end it's like a mid-range card since we just alternated to a title where the XT looks better let's bring it back maybe the other way Blackmouth won tends to favor Nvidia both with and without RT enabled we'll see if that remains true with the new architecture at 4K the 570 TI leads the 970 XT by 12% here it's not as big of a gap as it could be we'll see how that maintains an RT but against the 5070 the 970 XT is at least ahead by 14% compared to the prior generation the 970 XT is about the same as a 4070 TI super the 700 XTX is a few percentage points higher frame rate than the 970 XT at 1440p the 970 xt's 83 FPS average result is matched with good pacing on the 1% and 0. 1% lows it's not better than its neighbors in a meaningful way but is a keeping pce properly the 5070 TI leads the 970 XT by 5% and the 580 leads it by 177% probably calling the 80's existence into question more than really anything else here and again that's one with all of the robs there the 570 ran at 72 FPS average so the 970 XT is about 10 FPS higher that also had the 570 above the 7800 XT which the 970 XT has now vaulted past at 1080p the scaling shifts the 970 XT closer the 7800 XTX the two are functionally equal in all three metrics here the 5070 TI outranks the 970 XT on a technicality but not in an observable way 1080p seems to squish all these together Starfield is up now this one flips it again at 4K the 970 XT leads the 55070 ti by about 2 FPS just like we've said elsewhere this is a measurable but irrelevant difference you wouldn't notice the 2 FPS you probably would notice the cost difference though the 970 XT actually roughly equals the 480 super here and isn't that distant from the 580 both the 570 TI and the 970 XT are a threat to the 580s already questionable existence at 1440p the 970 XT is again between the 5070 TI and the 480 super roughly tying the ladder the 7800 XTX has a 6% lead over the 970 XT here the 570 NTI which is still not equivalent to an RTX 490 continues to not be equivalent to an RTX 490 wow truly wondrous technology we never could have predicted that at 1080p the 970 XT now holds a 127 FPS average with lows at 68 and 46 that plans it right between the 700 XTX and the 570 TI there's not much difference between these three in this test 4080 super actually isn't that different either and the 90 shows that we do have a little bit more CPU head room here and actually so does the 490 for that matter which continues to not be a 5070 just in case we hadn't mentioned it dlight 2 is up next this is one of the heavier games in our test suite at 4K the 970 XT ran at 62 FPS average which has it just ahead of the 3090 TI it's also 11% ahead of the 5070 the 5070 TI leads the 970 XT by 12% in this test which matches its gain in tests were held in advantage in other words the 970 XT achieves 89% of the performance at 80% of the listed MSRP we're reviewing this before the 970 XTS go on sale so we can't know how much to adjust for for street price so using the only one there's any control for that's kind of how it shakes out at 1440p the 570 TI beats the 970 XT at 130 fps to 118 or about a 10% uplift to the 55070 ti the 480 super is a few frames above that the 570 is down at 106 FPS average resulting in an advantage for the 970 XT of 11% it's equidistant between them AMD has also improved on it 7900 XT model the 6700 XT is way down at 61 FPS average so users on that tier of Hardware could experience nearly a doubling in frame rate in some tests we've been rerunning cyberpunk Phantom Liberty on a newer version for all tests so this chart is sparse the 970 XT ran at 53 FPS average giving it a lead over the 570 TI's 50 FPS average of 5. 8 % against the 5070 the 970 XD is ahead by 29% maybe more noteworthy is that the 970 XD is technically ahead of the 480 the 7900 XTX meanwhile remains about 9% higher average frame rate than the 970 XT at 1440p the 970 XT climbs to a playable 109 FPS average in Phantom Liberty this is without upscaling or frame generation just Organic Farm Fresh frames the 970 XT ends up basically tied with the 570 TI slightly leading the 4080 and notably leading the 570 we haven't rerun amd's older stuff in this one yet time for raay tracing this is where AMD will really need to prove itself AMD spent a lot of time talking about its improvements to ra tracing blocks and its recent press briefings so they're clearly aware of the deficit we'll start with the worst case scenario it should get better from here Blackmouth hukan has worked best on Nvidia Hardware since its launch especially in R tracing at 4K with upscaling and R raced the 970 XT ran with our settings at 29 FPS average playability isn't important to us right now just the relative scaling we'll get to the lower resolutions in a minute with these settings the 570 ends up ahead by a large 38% at 40 fps to 29 the 570 TI is 78% ahead of the 970 XD this is amd's absolute worst case scenario against last generation AMD is at least posting large gains the 970 XT outperforms the 700 XTX by 45% climbing from 20 to 29 FPS that is a substantial gain especially considering the XTX was often slightly ahead of the 970 XT in raster but obviously there are situations especially games like this where you still will have to just heavily weigh Nvidia if RT and this type of game matters a lot to you against the 7800 XT there was an enormous 84% uplift in performance it's undeniable that AMD is improving in RT at 1440p upscale the 970 XT ran at about the levels of the RTX 390 the 570 now is 37% ahead so about the same as last resolution with the 570 TI 66% ahead reduced from before the gain on the 970 XT over the 700 XTX is 45% so the same at 1080p upscale the 9xt held 73 FPS average and climbed past the 3090 it's now approaching the 3090 TI which came out 3 years ago and had no formal MSRP at launch uh it just sold for whatever in that period kind of like today I guess and it was typically close to $2,000 but occasionally 1500 so that's your context the 570 is now 32% ahead down from 37% 4 the 570 TI is down to 53% ahead still huge but a gradual reduction step by step from the 4K upscaled gains of 78% let's look at something more balanced Drgon Dogma 2 is a game we'd play with r tracing enabled we do think it looks better but it's not nearly as heavy an implementation cyber Punker black myth in Drgon Dogma 2 with r tracing and at 4K the RX 970 XT ran at 61 FPS average this has it ahead of the RTX 570 is 49 FPS result by 26% the 570 TI leads the 97 XT marginally and by 2 FPS or 3.

6% the 700 XTX is about 5 FPS ahead of the 970 XD definitely a healthier position than Blackmouth but also not as impressively heavy at 1440p the 970 XT ran at 103 FPS average and tied the 570 TI almost exactly again this is heavier on raster than RT but this is a better result than historically for AMD previously the 7900 GRE was below the new 570 with the 7800 XT about the same as a 4070 TI super 1080p the 970 XD as still right around the 5070 TI and the 470 TI super d light 2 is up next tested at 4K with upscaling as the game is relatively heavy the 970 XT landed at 46 FPS average which puts it tied with the 7800 XTX and just behind the 390 TI AMD still has a deficit in RTS compared to its Nvidia competition with the 55070 ti leading by 24% that's not as obscene as the Gap in black myth but it's still an undeniable victory for NVIDIA the RTX 570 ran at 44 f FPS average here so the 970 XT is about 6% ahead 1440p has the 970 XT at 89 FPS average and Ty the 4070 TI super and 3090 TI it's marginally ahead of the 700 XTX though they're functionally equal the 5070 TI leads the 9970 XT by 16% now down from 24% at the higher resolution the 480 super and Fe were tied with each other and aren't distant from the 5070 TI at 1080p the 970 XT ran at 129 FPS average the 570 TI maintains a lead here but it's now reduced to 99. 4% those are some huge reductions in its Advantage as the resolution comes down so Nvidia is still ahead but has lost significant ground here Resident Evil 4 is up now at 4K with r tracing and upscaling the 970 XT performs at parody with 570 TI this is another of the lighter weight RT titles so broadly speaking thus far games with fewer RT features implemented that lean more heavily on raster allow AMD to compete better the 970 XT leads the 5070 by 27% with the 7900 XTX leading the 970 XT and this one by 16% at 1440p upscaled the 970 XT ran at 180 FPS average and allowed the 5070 TI a marginal Victory the 9070 XT improved upon the 700 XT but not the XTX cyberp Punk is up next we'll start with the heaviest workload and scale down from there 4K and RT Ultra tends to destroy cards with lower vram capacity like the 5070 with its 0. 1% lows cards like the 2070 and 2070 super have been removed this time since they were unplayable and their results were just noise anyway one could be better than the other just because neither can play the game the 970 XT landed at 22 FPS average in a relative sense what matters is that the 5070 TI's lead is 23.

5% the 970 XT leads the 570 by 26% in average FPS but 570 has massive stuttering problems due to insufficient vram as it depletes and actually we showed some video of the screen when we were running this game test in our 570 review it gets really bad the longer you play it just it can't keep up bring RT down to medium but still at 4K the 970 XT runs at 28 FPS average and lands between the 700 XTX and the 480 it's a much better spot to be in this puts the 5070 TI ahead by 10% down from 24% at Ultra you could then get to a playable frame rate with upscaling or by dropping the resolution you can see Nvidia getting embarrassed by its own choices once again the 4070 TI and 570 are both crumbling and the 0. 1% lows which is a direct result of the low vrm capacity this low 0. 1% value manifest has stuttery frame delivery and inconsistent frame time pacing at 1080p but back to RT Ultra the 970 XT ran at 71 FPS average 61 1% low and 58 0.

1% lows the 570 encroaches on this result at 64 FPS average although the 970 XT has a slight advantage in 0. 1% lows the 570 TI leads the 970 XT here by 20% finally for cyber Punk tested at 1080P and RT medium the 970 XT ran at 92 FPS average that reduces the 5070 TI's lead back down to 12% from the 20% we saw with the RT Ultra uh and same resolution test we're getting into Power efficiency testing now efficiency benchmarks are a combination of power consumption and performance so you'll get to see both in this testing we perform the test with a pmd2 sitting as an interposer between the PCI slot and the power cables capturing just the GPU power consumption and isolation we'll start with Final Fantasy 14 as usual for this section however this won't reflect well on the 970 XT due to the overall lower performance this title the 970 XT ends up toward the bottom of this chart its power draw was 310 Watts here pulling less than the 430 of the 7800 XTX but also producing a lower frame rate this drags down the efficiency planted between the XTX and the 390 TI the 700 XT was more efficient in this particular test with the 570 likewise significantly improved on the 970 XT Nvidia remains advantaged in efficiency 1440p has more cards on the chart the 9970 XT ends up improved upon the efficiency of the 6600 XT and the 6700 XT up at 0. 45 FPS per watt but still worse than the prior XTX 7900 XT and nvidia's entire modern lineup the 570 TI is 62% more efficient than the 970 XT here up had 0.

73 FPS per watt it's not a good result for AMD it's burning a lot of power to produce the output it is here's a better test for the 970 XT an f124 at 4K with r tracing the 970 XT ran at 0. 18 FPS per watt these results round to the second place so different bar sizes for the same numbers normal it just means that the hidden digits are separating them anyway the 970 XT is more efficient than the 570 and significantly more efficient than amd's prior 700 XT this massive uplift and flip over the prior raster Final Fantasy charts comes as a combination of improved performance of the power with the large rate tracing uplift that AMD saw generationally Nvidia 570 TI however remains more efficient than the 970 XT at 0. 20 FPS per watt but this is much closer than it was previously and now only has an 11% uplift that's it's more normal at 1080p but still an f124 with rt the 97 XT ran at 311 watts and scored 0.

51 FPS per watt that puts it ahead of the RTX 460 the Intel b580 and 42% improved on the prior 7900 XT so that's good Nvidia 570 TI It maintains an advantage though at 266 watts and 0. 62 FPS per watt or a 22% Improvement in fps per watt that benefit mostly comes from its lower power draw to produce comparable performance Drgon stock with two with rt and at 1440p is up now the 970 XT consumed 311 Watts during the course of this testing and calculated to a 0. 33 FPS per watt result which makes it better than the 700 XT and worse than the 5070 TI despite amd's gains overall Nvidia retains its advantage and efficiency and output for the power used AMD had to get performance before it could get efficiency though as these two are part of the same formula we think their focus should remain on pumping the performance numbers with the hope to balance out the efficiency calculation on that side of the formula instead star field at 1440p is up now this is without rate tracing so this is rasterized and it's one of the titles that AMD does better in the 970 XT pulled 310 Watts again here landing at 0.

34 FPS per watt and just ahead of the b570 and 7800 XT the 570 and 5070 TI are both more efficient with the 5070 TI in particular keeping a massive Improvement at 0. 48 FPS per watt the performance is comparable on the 970 XD and the 570 TI here meaning that most of that efficiency benefit comes from nvidia's card pulling just 209 watts to produce basically the same amount of work this is a good comparison because they're effectively ISO work or controlled for a a nearly fixed output and so we've eliminated that last variable of performance Nvidia is simply more effective per watt consumed whether that matters for you is up to you but we'll talk about that in the conclusion AMD is definitely winning in the cost per frame category so sort of that value perspective but AMD has won there for a while not news the thing that really matters is if they're winning by enough and that's why it was so important that am to get the price right here Nvidia currently has about 90% of the discret GPU Market AMD has the remaining 10 intels at about zero and that's why it's so important for consumers that AMD and one day Intel uh are able to really compete with Nvidia now at the same time AMD and Intel shouldn't get pity purchases just because someone should compete with Nvidia they still have to earn it so we'll see how the street prices Shake Scout for the 970 XT and again the 5070 TI has a problem where even its partners aren't hitting MSRP so consumers are getting scalped by the likes of MSI as a quick recap of performance in rasterization performance and at 4K amd's 970 XT is commonly within the range of 5 to 6% of the 5070 TI with a few breakouts like d light 2 and blackm myth non-rt where the 570 TI has about a 12% advantage over the 970 XT as we said earlier our Final Fantasy 14 results just don't match what AMD presented but we also run the newest version of The Benchmark across all resolutions and all games that we looked at performance of the 9070 XT approaches levels of the 7900 XTX and some benchmarks and is commonly around 7900 XT levels but often between them broadly speaking the 970 XT beats the 570 non TI and these charts shows the summary of some of the 4K and 1440p results we have against the 5070 TI uh the non-ti is obviously below this these charts illustrate the percent improvement from a 970 XT to a 57 TI or in other words if the bar is positive and going to the right then that's a 570 TI Victory if it's going to the left then that's where the 970 XT was ahead as for ra tracing performance and videos ahead almost universally in our testing in black myth it's not even a competition if you really wanted to play that particular game and you decided you need RT for it with these heavy settings you'd basically need Nvidia in cyberp Punk AMD Narrows the Gap from previous generations but Nvidia maintains a large advantage in games like Drgon stwa 2 with rt the 970 XT looks much more competitive the extra vram is useful in some heavy situations such as in cyberpunk RT with ultra settings where the 5070 starts to struggle under vram load and our efficiency testing Nvidia maintains an advantage overall this is derived from both FPS and power and in many of these cases the lower power draw serves as the stronger part of nvidia's side of the equation rather than performance we think amd's focus on performance before power is The Right Move power is okay for them it can obviously be better but running lower power wouldn't be worth losing potentially everywhere on performance we think they made the right decision on this Balancing Act and they can try to bring the power down later and this back and forth we describing is why it's been so critical for AMD to get its pricing right in situations where a purchasing decision between AMD and Nvidia is unclear for the average consumer not most people watching this necessarily but we're talking Mass Market who don't even know we exist then Nvidia will often remain sort of the default choice in the minds of those consumers unless AMD really gives them a reason to be paid attention too and for AMD to really get noticed it has to win in big ways either in price or in performance but ideally both with the 970 XT we think $600 is the minimum that they had to hit so there's a lot of support for what AMD is doing right now it is good that they came down to 600 uh it's just that we do have to keep in mind what types of cards these are and Nvidia at any moment I mean they're it's a powerful company they kind of snap their fingers and change the pricing so 600 was the minimum uh to get some ground swell and attention that was positive and it worked if you look around online AMD leading up to the launch here has had a lot of positive ground swell and positive attention and that's a good thing it achieved that much and there's been a lot of enthusiasm over the last few days over the 9070 series which is also good and a good part of that is in no small part thanks to Nvidia up everything they touch it's like the midest touch except everything they touch is it turns into a up of some kind and this is benefiting AMD right now in a big way so for pricing just briefly we would have liked to see the 970 XT a little bit cheaper the main reason is we'd like to see AMD like really kick in the doors I mean this is the opportunity to maximize impact because of nvidia's external screw-ups and uh so a little bit cheaper would have helped them there for appealing to mass Market we're not talking like the sort of core audience that GN has and the core audience that maybe reddits PC Master race or whatever has uh but really that mainstream like someone builds a computer once every five or 10 years or whatever walks into a Best Buy and you really got to get the attention of that person if you're AMD to grow the market share rapidly uh to just start generating that momentum the reason it's so much more important now than normally is because of nvidia's screw up the 9070 we'll talk about that separately but that price is weird that that price doesn't make a whole lot of sense it is an upsell it looks like they're trying to push people to the XT maybe um but that one uh we'll talk about that in a separate review so that's for this one thanks for watching as always subscribe for more go to store. gam access.