#ABtalks with Iman Gadzhi - مع ايمان كاجي | Chapter 177

[Music] hey guys before you watch this episode make sure to subscribe to our Channel and hit that notification Bell thank you [Music] hey man how you doing I'm supposed to ask uh I've watched this I know how this goes I'll start by say saying how are you really doing I you know going into this year I don't know if you ever have this uh you know sometimes you go into a year and you just know it's going to be a difficult year I had that going into this year uh and I think that's turned out

to be very true uh I try to explain to people all the time that although life looks like a dream and what every especially I think Young gentleman aspires to have it comes with a lot of chaos and chaos is the opposite to peace and usually what most people want is peace you know you most most people when they're like oh I want to be happy what they mean is they want peace in their life because I don't think it matters if you're driving this superar or that super car if you're behind the steering wheel

and you're looking out and you're thinking about did I send this email or are my assets safe here or this person that I need to take care of or the 150 employees you know what's the long-term vision of this company I think the best situation you can be in in in any shitty car but looking out and looking at the sunset and with a bit of good music on and that's what makes a good life and I think there's seasons in life and I'm in a season of chaos um which I embrace so to answer

your question I'm this year I'm getting through it h do you feel you might have preempted it like attracted chaos if you start the year that way no because my life was chaotic last year and it was chaotic the year before but each year it's I take on more and more responsibility but I was talking to my friend the other day and he I I was talking about how this year has kind of been uh emotionally difficult and he's like oh do you think you have anxiety and I said no I think anxiety comes from

you feel bad and you don't know why but when you feel bad but you know exactly why and it's a decision that comes from you from you I don't think you can call that anxiety I think that's just you made your bed now you need to lay in it and I think I have chosen this life and I come to terms with the fact that I don't think my quality of life is as good as someone else um I'd say definitely my best quality of life was you know probably 3 four years ago where I

was on10th the size still you know very very successful um in my own right five six employees very profitable business uh this that so yeah I don't think I preempted it I just think as I said sometimes you make your bed and you need to face the consequences that come with that I have a different take on anxiety um I I feel that anxiety is the conspiracy theories of your future so it's your brain worrying about things that didn't happen you know what if uh uh my uh business goes down what if somebody gets sick

what if I lose my father my mother and it's all of these things that play in our head oh what if this person cheats on me you're you're worried about something that didn't happen might happen but very maybe low chance and I think that's I don't that's where I've reached with the word anxiety you know cuz you said if you've already made a decision you should lay in it but then do the conspiracy theories of your imagination continue CU if they do you're worried you're not really there you know I understand what you're saying but

if you have the conscious decision let's say for example some of the things that you do future pace and you do think of if you could eradicate those problems today let's say for example you know you said uh you know where's my business going to be at and this and that if you're in a position where you don't need to work anymore you know so you don't need to face you don't need to have those problems looming but you've chosen a life in which that comes with it I don't believe I don't believe in this

whole idea of like conscious entrepreneur uh I'm going to have a business and and here's the thing you can have a business that is very respectable moderately successful but I'm talking if you're trying to perform at the top top top top level your mind is going to be a Minefield and there's no getting past that I don't believe in this whole you know you just wake up and you do you know an hour of work and you have no you just enjoy all of your wealth and this and that you can do that after you

sell your company but you selling your company comes from 5 10 15 20 how many however many decades of stress and worry and responsibility because you are the captain of the ship you know my team I hate the word boss I don't let anyone call me boss um so my team in the last couple years started calling me Captain and I feel like that's something I'm a little bit more comfortable with because that's what I am I'm the captain of a ship and as the captain of a ship you have to decide which direction are

we taking this and that's a big responsibility and you don't need that responsibility you don't need the responsibility you could retire tomorrow so I feel like it would be foolish for you to wake up on morning and and you're having an off day or you're feeling tired or maybe a little anxious or maybe a little not Blissful and I think it would be foolish for you to sit there and wonder why it's happening or sit there and resent those feelings when you made that decision you can close your entire operation tomorrow you can live a

happy piece of life but you made that decision so it comes with it's drawbacks and I think this is why I like to make this so clear to people because I'm in a very unique position where you know I started uploading on YouTube when I was 15 so I have eight years of documentation of everything from starting my first business to having my first success having my first massive loss hiring my first employee my first employee leaving after 3 days cuz I was 17 and you know who the hell would work for a 17-year-old you

know quite clearly he doesn't know what he's doing so I've documented that entire process all the way to where I am now so I just feel a responsibility to tell people if you want this life it comes with these drawbacks and I try to I feel a responsibility to tell people hey I've been through it all so let me be honest with you of what is actually a good life cuz most of what people want most of what people want is what looks the best but that isn't necessarily what is the best life so the

there was a video I made and I said something along what you said is that everything has a tax everything even your watch your clothes your house your comes with something correct at the price of something but social media doesn't show the price it just shows that nice picture at the end with a nice edit M or that beautiful moment out of a vacation that maybe you had six arguments but that nice picture by the beach you're not going to put the argument so that's the deceitful part of social media you know painting a very

uh beautiful sometimes perfect picture but people don't understand and somebody can look at you and like look at this uh you know brat he's rich and God knows what and he's so lucky God knows where he got the money from very easy to throw but then they don't know the actual story 15 years old I did this I got rejected 62 times it's all of this compilation of incremental success to actually be successful so that's the tricky thing and I think you said something that I also will tell you that you're wrong and I'm wrong

it's if we quit today will'll be some miserable people me and you we let's say we could we quit no business nothing I'll give you one week maybe not okay I'll give you a month you will be so uneasy because you need to feel valuable and productive and and and so I could have told you why didn't you stop two three years ago when you said you were at the on10th size of you no you're listen you are 100% correct in saying that but I think this is why it's so important to have the self-awareness

of who you are as a person you have a god-given talent I have a god-given talent I it gets to a certain point in your career where you have so much as an as a nest egg that you stop tomorrow and you're you still make millions of dollars a year just from your Investments so then you have to ask why does this person keep doing this quite clearly there's something inside of them if you want the best quality of life as a footballer go be the 100th best footballer in the world because you're still going

to make 1020 million a year so what's the point in being number one cuz number one you have so much pain and you have so much work that goes into it and all the things that people want you never actually get to enjoy because you're always focused on being the best so you're correct in saying that you and I would be bored 100% I know that that's why I don't stop cuz for me it's like what else would I do if I sold my businesses if I packed it all up if I just you know

uh laid all of my focus on my Investment Portfolio and just chilled I mean you know I was even talking with uh uh my family office and my wealth managers couple days ago you know us bonds are at five 5 to 5 and a half per you throw your money into a 10-year bond that's it you're set you never have to work it's the safest investment possible unless the US collapses so when you've got that situation and a person is still working and is still striving that's because that's unique to them I look at someone

I have never once in my life looked at someone who moves to Southeast Asia and lives off of $5,000 a month even though they could have taken their business to multi-million and multi8 figures a year I never look at someone like that as you know why are you making that decision if that's true to you and if that's an alignment as to who you are as a person then that's beautiful I think you need to live a life that is in alignment to who you know you are and it might take some time to figure

that out you know for some people they want a good life and maybe once they get the things that they want maybe they realize oh you know what I would much rather make substantially less money but have a stressfree life but you won't know until you get there I guess who are you when no one's around I'm a person that thinks about everyone around me and thinks about I'll give you a small example I have a weird little um weird little habit with my friends uh friends myom any and basically anyone who's around me if

I see their devices around I go charge it cuz I'm like oh what happens if they run out of battery you know next time they're you know like I'm so the ram that's in my mind is at full capacity at all times because I'm always just looking around analyzing and I worry about other people a lot and I'm always trying to think about other people and thinking how can I make their life better and you know I one of my favorite books is a book called ala Shrugged I actually have a tattoo of it right

here and I guess one of my one of my philosophies in life is as I said I feel like I have this god-given Talent of absorbing a lot of stress and it not breaking me and I know that's a talent of mine so if I have this talent I feel like I have to make the most of it so who I am as a person when no one else is watching is I feel like I'm a protector H nice word um your name is Arabic Islamic you know that I'm sure Faith oh you're Muslim Yeah

by faith okay where are you from from a place in Russia called dagistan dagistan is it where where khabib is from correct ah before khabib basically no one knew where it was so I have yeah he helped me and has to thank for that nice yeah true okay your childhood in three words tumultuous quick and a blessing H and what's your best childhood memory probably anytime I got to play with my mom you know I'm an only child so I had no one to hang around with no one to play with I'm naturally an introvert

so I didn't really have many friends in school I never really mingled with many people so I think my favorite childhood memor is anytime that I just got to build Lego with my mom or you know she played football with me and I think it's my favorite memory now because I've come to realize just how boring it is for a parent I guess I've come to realize like as a mother you're there trying to entertain your child for hours and hours upon end and doing all the stuff that you don't care about but you know

it makes your child happy so you're willing to sacrifice watching a you know a cartoon on TV to to be able to spend time with your child or you know uh making this Lego set or whatever it may have been at the time so I think now I look back very fondly at those memories uh and I understand that you know being a single mother is very hard but you know being a single mother to an only child is even harder um because there is no siblings where at least you can alleviate some of that

you know that uh that time and that play time so I'd say any of those memories I I cherish quite quite deeply in my heart now worst childhood memory so there was one time when I was 8 years old I moved to lond when I was four my mom and my my mom and my stepdad uh dated for a couple years they met in Russia you know they trial out living together and you know eventually he proposed so that's how I ended up moving to London when I was four years old and uh you know

that marriage fell apart quite quickly uh I remember one time when I was 8 years old I picked up the home phone and on the other line it's uh hi this is uh uh London escorts uh we're uh looking you know we're calling regarding your booking with you know my stepdad's name and I was 8 years old bear in mind you don't you don't quite know what that is at 8 and you know my mom my mom obviously asks who was that and I say oh it was a London escorts as you know calling about

my stepdad and obviously I see the the sadness wash over her face and you know it's so funny even as a 8-year-old I was like no no no Mom you don't understand they like cuz my my stepdad was arriving from airport you know my subad wasn't around much uh he was only in London maybe three or four months a year I was like no no Mom you don't understand they they escort him from the airport to the house like they like a escort service and I don't know how but even when I was eight I

I knew what that was I had that like gut feeling and I think that when you ask me three words to describe my childhood uh I think I said quick and the reason I said quick was because I think my CH childhood lasted until I was 7 years old MH after that I wouldn't call that childhood because I had to think like an adult so I wouldn't necessar necessarily say that that was the worst but I I I think that was definitely a turning point where I realized like yeah I have I'm probably exposed to

the world a little bit more than you know the other kids my age did you feel guilty that you were honest about who was on the callt yeah I did right after but I as I said it's because I didn't know what that meant but I had a gut feeling M and my mom's reaction confirmed that gut feeling to me so I guess I couldn't have known beforehand but her reaction her reaction solidified it for me and for a 8-year-old to quickly turn that around with a lie to justify that the call is don't worry

Mom it's not that bad it's a airport that was very very quick thinking at a very young age because you you didn't like the reaction you saw so you tried to mitigate the sorrow that you made your mom feeli and unintentionally I think that's part part of being a protector I was just gonna say I was just gonna say you see how you like to charge people's phones it's it's started there it started where at an seven or eight yearold man uh hurt someone not directly but as a child sometimes you think you take the

blame although there's zero blame on you you were just a messenger um but eight-year-old doesn't think like that they think oh like when people get divorce the child thinks it's their fault it's like what did I do and the mom or dad were like it's not you but the child grows up feeling maybe I did something wrong or I was a burden on my parents and that's why they divorced until you grow up grow up and you start to have a rational mind but that 8-year-old Iman thought I just broke my mom's heart and I

don't want to ever do it again correct what was the first word you used you use a complicated word on your childhood tumultous what does that mean rocky rocky okay and does was the rocky pre8 or post eight I think uh from the age of maybe five or six I was aware my uh my stepdad was quite a quite a strict character he went to boarding school when he who was four years old so um you know it didn't matter that I was four years old if I dropped the fork it's not good uh didn't

matter that I was four or five and I was learning English you know my handwriting had to be better so I think it instilled a lot of fear in me but I don't think I necessarily minded that I think maybe in the moment it was tough I think definitely when you're younger you wonder you know why is this person picking on me like I don't get it but growing up now and looking at the way people are you especially my generation the people who are around my age it wasn't nice but I learned respect and

I learned that some people are to be feared and I think that's important I think there are certain people in your life you should fear the consequences and maybe not as intense as I experienced it [Music] um I think it's important how was it for um a boy to grow up with an with no father if I'm not mistaken and then a stepfather that left so it's two two questions so my biological father was an alcoholic abusive so yeah he was out the picture by the time time I was born and you know I wish

I could sit here and say that it was super traumatic and this and that and you know uh it really messed me up no having a dad I I'd be lying if I said that it's when you don't have something it seems normal to you and my stepdad although he was my stepdad he wasn't around much so it was almost he almost felt like this weird disciplinarian teacher who I saw three or four months of the year and was incredibly smart and taught me a lot but I wouldn't necessarily call him a father I wouldn't

necessarily call him dad so I can comfortably say that I never really had a father growing up and and I think that goes one of two ways either well majority of the time it goes disastrously wrong and if you look across every single metric growing up in a a single parent household which obviously most of the time means that you know only having your mother around is one of the biggest disadvantages you can have in life for the very small percentage of people that it works out for I think it works out brilliantly because I

don't have any if you have a father sometimes you'll take on 90% of his beliefs sometimes you'll take on 60% of his beliefs sometimes you'll take 10% of his beliefs but the issue is what if his beliefs are flawed then you're perpetuating a lineage of broken thinking so my big advantage and the reason I would call my childhood a blessing although is very difficult and there's certain reminders here and there you know I have people in my team I have friends of mine simple things they know how to fish their dad taught them they know

how to tie a tie their dad taught them they know how to do simple things change a tire their dad taught them you I never had anyone to teach me these things I think that's probably the only time I feel a little like and I I really wish I had a dad I wish I had someone to teach me that but I think that's also going back to what I was saying that's foolish to think that every dad is like that because quite frankly most dads aren't like that most dads go to work and there's

absolutely nothing wrong with this most ads go to work for 12 hours a day they hate their work they're uninspired they don't they have a very sour view on the world and that translates into their children so as I said my big Advantage is you know I had a blank slate I could be the man that I wanted to be there was no one telling me as a family this is what we believe in you know my mom I love her to bit she's taught me important family values and you know there's certain things that

I take from my mom when it comes to relationships when it comes to family for me I don't believe you ever quit on your family like I just don't believe in that it doesn't matter how difficult things get your family is your family that's just the way I was raised and I'm grateful for my mom instilling those things in me but on the flip side when it comes to worldview I feel like that is the role of a father to instill in their children this is the worldview this is what we believe in as a

family this is what we stand for and this is what what we will tolerate and this is what we will not tolerate and as I said I didn't have that so the beauty of it was I could build my own worldview as a child when you didn't have a father then a new guy shows up in your experience did you feel finally let me latch on to him or from the beginning you're like I'm not even going to risk it because he might also go do you know what I mean because my biological father was

never around it was never like a I'd never there was no sense of Abandonment okay because I'd technically never been abandoned I just nothing had ever been there in the first place so there was no sense of loss so listen I never thought my stepdad was my dad I never as I said I never looked at him as a father because I knew at the end of day listen he's not my dad so I don't think that was really an issue of mine tell me about your mother her name is m m m okay tell

me about her she's a very difficult woman and she'll hate that I said that uh she's Russian but also so dastan where I'm from it's a little bit more Middle Eastern she's the youngest of seven in the Soviet Union so you know she has a lot of philosophies that didn't serve me as I grew up but she believes in the things that I think are important as a mother which is you put your children first I do believe that I believe that you know being parents and being being a mother is the most selfless thing

you can do and I also think it's the most honorable thing you can do it makes me very upset that we live in a world where someone asks a woman oh what do you want to do in the future and they feel ashamed to say I want to be the best mother in the world it makes me genuinely upset that we live in a world like that because I think that's the most important role I think that's the most important job you could ever have I don't know what would have happened to me if I

didn't have my mom I wouldn't be here I can guarantee I would have been a very very very nasty person I would have been a menace to the world because I would I'd have all those lessons from a young age and I would know how to handle stress and I would have grown up quickly but I never would have had someone to match that with compassion and love so as I said it's it's scary for me to think about what would have happened if I didn't have the mom that I do but your mom is

your mom and I think you know I think maybe it's a little different In some cultures but the way I was raised is your mom's always right and although I have gone against a lot of things that she wanted in life because I felt like it was better for us and obviously you know I guess it's somewhat worked out um at the end of the day even here in my position I'll be honest in in business [Music] I'm a menace I'm a Savage I'm a person who has experienced so much so young and I'm very

respect is important to me and if I can clearly see a situation isn't correct that's it when it comes to my mom that all goes out the window if you know my mom if we're sat down for lunch for three hours it I'll be honest it happens a lot of time we sit down for three for three hours for lunch and my mom shouts at me and you have to take it you have no choice and I think that's you know I think that has to do with the whole respect thing I was saying you

know I grew up in a culture where you respect your parents you may not agree with them you may not agree with their worldview but you have to show up and you have to respect it and to me that's very important and that's also why I keep my mom very close I mean that in a sense that she's very close to my heart but also geographically wherever I go I take her with me um nice so random question what is the strangest dream you've had I think the strangest dream I had was and this is

obviously the scary thing sometimes about dreams they seem so real I had a son but my son was me and it's obviously just so weird where you're in this Lucid State you're in this other world and you're having this dream that seems so vivid and you know you're talking to this person and this person is you but also in the Stream it's your son so I would say that was quite a that was one of those dreamss when you wake up you have to grab a pen and paper the conversation was interesting like you would

remember it yeah the conversation was interesting there was some life lessons from that I think it reminded me my childish spirit and to never lose that and although as I said I think I'm at a stage of life and there's seasons in life I'm in a season that fits me for right now but I'm also in a season that's very C I'm in a season where emotions and internalizing emotions and experiencing them in their entirety is not the number one priority so although I you know a lot of as I go through life a lot

of the things I experience you know usually I put in into my shoulders I have quite tense shoulders I put into my shoulders and I'm I you know I just swallow that stress uh I still at the end of the day never want to lose that childlike spirit and I feel like I've been able to hold on to it h Iman you left a private school and after a lot of investment also from your mother so this is one of the things you were stubborn to go against your mother like you said a few things

uh was it a difficult decision to decide I'm making enough money uh enough to pay rent I think you said or somewhat that you say if I make this amount of money I'm going to leave the private school in the UK anywhere I'm wrong please correct me um but and you your mother is so dear to you so she's pushing for this at least finish maybe school and she's put money because it's not Public School and then he say no I'm going to leave how was that listen it was a big it caused a lot

of contention because obviously you know my mom had given up her best years uh she'd moved to London you know she'd ended up in this marriage and I think I said talking about values my mom is under the impression that you don't leave h when you're in marriage you stay in a marriage and then you know eventually my stepdad filed for divorce and you know they broke up and you know we were plunged into a lot of financial difficulty but the one thing she also made sure she did was invested my education and me as

a person you know my mom she had the same clothes for 10 years and nothing was beneath her so it was very difficult when you know all of a sudden [Music] you know I'm 17 years old and I'm like well I'm going to drop out of school and that didn't start 17 I actually started 16 I started massaging the idea in and I think she always knew that that was the path I was going because as I said by the time that I was 11 we had to fend for ourselves so I told my mom

when I was 13 14 I said there's absolutely zero chance I go to college no chance at all cuz I'm not paying for it you can't pay for it so and I'm definitely not going to take on student debt in order to make it happen so for years and years that was affirmed in her mind but I think there's a massive difference between not going to University or college and dropping out of school and I believe everyone should finish finish school by the way I believe everyone should complete school I think I have very strong

opinions on colleges and universities and um I don't think they act in accordance to people's best interest but school is school I think I think if you unless you're in a crazy situation like I was finish school now my situation was at the point in which I dropped out of school I was making 15,000 a month and I'll be honest I was also supporting my mom at that point so I guess I kind of had a little bit more leverage to work with and be like listen this is working you know it's working but it

was uh it was a difficult period for sure it wasn't easy you think you know this idea that you should never have a plan Plan B Because if you have a plan B in your subconscious you can quit on plan a mhm do you think because it sounds like you only had one plan it's it's starting to happen I'm not going to just stay in school for the sake of staying in school who's going to pay College who's going to you're not going to I I have no choice it's like these footballers who became footballers

because they had to leave the conditions they were in there was no other option you think that works out better I think when you have nothing you just need a plan a because even if plan a doesn't work out you're back to where you initially were but I think if you're if you went to University or college and you're making very good money you know let's say I think you know everyone and this another thing I try to really instill in people I think for some reason everyone wants to on making 80 grand a year

these days but if you're making 80 grand a year and you're 25 or 26 that's a good income you know you know so if you have a high-paying job you are potentially losing out on something so I don't think that's one of those situations where you burn burn the boats and you go all in on a business I don't see why you can't start a business or start your next career step with two hours a day and prove to yourself first that you want it you know I didn't drop out of school when I signed

my first client I dropped out of school once I was making a substantial amount of money and once I Pro to myself that I want this and I can do this now as you go further down the line much further down the line you need many plans you need a plan A B C D on and on you need to know that if something changes because you know nothing in life is constant and markets and industries change that's why I always try to tell people as well this whole passive income thing is passive income as

a concept what you're doing is you're buying yourself time I might put in a lot of work now for six months and that front loads two years of success but eventually that's going to start to Decay and crumble someone's going to come in and realize you know the market is brutal whatever Market you're in so that's really all to say that things change and because things change especially further down the line you need to have ways which you can pivot depending on where the market goes but when you first start off I think the real

question someone needs to ask themselves is what do I have to lose if you're living with your parents you know in your mom's basement you got nothing to lose Go 100% all in if you're 36 and you have a family I think it would be absolutely disgusting for you to drop everything and go all in on one thing that might not work out as long unless you have that conversation with your partner with your wife and say Hey listen I really want to do this thing but it might be a rocky road for the next

couple years are you okay with this are you okay to ride through this with me or do you think that I'm putting the family at too much risk or too much danger so I think the main thing people need to ask themselves is what do I have to lose and if the answer is something you need to think about it if the answer is a lot you need to really think about it what is Iman a fear or an insecurity you've struggled with throughout your life not being good enough but I don't know if that's

a bad thing could be both I think anyone who achieves great things in their life they're always asking themselves is this good enough and going back to what we were saying at the beginning of the conversation I think that's why people need to understand the chaos and the mental burden that comes with pushing something to an outstanding level to something that's not normal that's far far beyond normal so I go to bed at every night and throughout the day I ask myself in all areas of life am I doing enough and the answer is never

know but that's the game and it's an infinite game it's a game you can keep playing and that's the fun of the game it's true Everlasting student um what does success mean to you and this stage of your life because it could change so I was going to say success means living in accordance to the season of your life so this season of my life is about taking on this burden and taking on the stress and you know the next season of my life could be and I very much hope it's about family and your

priorities change so right now I'm like a you know bodybuilder that pretty much only chains chest uh chest you know yeah he still trains calves and does this and that but he's the main focus is on one area of his life and the main focus of my life right now you know I'll tell you something in full honesty full transparency the way that I live right now is not cohesive to being the best partner that I could potentially be to being the best son I could potentially be my interpersonal relationships is not cohesive to that

because I have so much burden and so much stress on my shoulders and so many things to manage at any given time and such a massive organization as I said to be the captain of and make sure that our ship is safe and it's going in the right direction I forget birthdays all the time I don't call my mom every day and if you're a good friend or a good son you do those things or at least you strive to now that's where I am right now in 10 years or five years it could be

a totally different story MH and as you said there's a tax on everything my mom lives an incredible life but I don't think there's many sons you know who buy their mom a $4 million house their dream house and also call them every single day there's a tax to this m so I think for the season of my life there's areas where I'm really missing the mark where I'm not showing up in the best way that I could be but that's because I know that I'm going to put this aside for now because I'm focus

on this here and you know I don't want to live the same life forever there will be that next season I will shed my skin at some point but what if Iman your mom says the $4 million house I want an apartment but I want my son I would tell her mother you're asking me to give up on who I want to be and you and I both know that that is an unfair ask and you're right she would much much rather you know my mom my mom doesn't give a you know she really doesn't

she doesn't care about all this lavish stuff reason I know that is because usually after I buy buy her the most lavish stuff we get into the worst arguments um that's not not her love language obviously quite clearly but at least we're aware yeah you know and she knows that you know I said I have such a hectic schedule I do my best you know once a week we have you know mother son time she would like it to be a la more but as I said she knows that I am living true to what

is right for my current life situation and that molds and that changes over time so I agree that in some ways in life you need to be selfless but in some ways you also need to be selfish in the sense of I think when it comes to your your morals and your principles and your dreams and your aspiration no one can take that away from you I think it' be unfair for someone to take that away from you I agree um in 2020 Iman had to face anxiety depression Suicidal Thoughts that were also from before

you said very maybe tampering with it but in 2020 the monster was there tell me about that yeah listen it was an interesting period of my life CU I think it's there's a difference between I'm thinking of ending it and thinking how am I going to end it those are two different conversations and once you start properly planning how you're going to do it and how to do it in a way that makes it seem like it's an accident so there's no collateral damage when you leave you're in a much scarier place in life I'd

say for anyone who is going through that there's a couple things you know I got it through it relatively quickly I was going through some health stuff at the time and sometimes in life sometimes you're very fragile and when you're Fragile the demons try to come in and there's a lot of things that when you're strong you can absorve and you can you can fight those things away when you're fragile you need to go back to you need to go back to the base and need to strip away everything and what that looked like for

me was no caffeine no alcohol no caffeine even my food I went down I Stripped Away all food and I did a Elimination Diet all I did for one month was eat salt steak and water that was it and then I started adding things and I started to see you know most people people live their life and even me these days sometimes you eat a meal and you don't even know what has caused you to feel bad what ingredient in that you know you might feel all of a sudden you know you might get hot

flush you might get uh irritated you might feel a little anxious whatever it may be so even down to our Foods we don't even realize what's causing that reaction music I cut out all music for months I genuinely believe you know most of the music we listen to these days is truly demonic now here's the thing sometimes I like to listen to Drake but that's because I'm in a place right now where I'm not fragile I can listen to it but it does I feel like those demons don't come in so for anyone who's going

through that period of life you need to treat yourself like you need to strip things back and treat yourself like this little baby and you need to remove any of the way that these demons can come in and put their claws into you you if you're going through that period you you have to be celibate no dates no female interactions you can only focus on you and just you you need to focus on clearing your gut you know I know that I'm maybe I'm a little on the harsher side when it comes to depression and

suicidal thoughts and this and that you know I do look at some people who are going through these things and they eat McDonald's three times a week and they're suffering from leaky gut and they drink 400 milligrams of caffeine a day and on the weekends they go and get shitfaced with their friends and they're swiping on Tinder every day and I go if you're going to do depressing things how do you expect to not end up depressed so for me if you can strip away all of that and you're still facing that then I think

there's Merit to it I Stripped Away all of that it took a couple months it took a couple months of really being gentle with myself but it was gone and I think having good friends around you is very important I think being vocal about it is very important I think there's absolutely nothing wrong with going through difficult periods in your life I think that's a beautiful thing to experience I don't think it's beautiful to stay in that place for three or four years and not take radical action and try to change things I genuinely I

also want to preface this by saying I'm no expert I can only just speak to my worldview what I experienced and my personal opinion I'm sure you can get much more much better Scholars on about the topic this is just my personal opinion that for most people have they stopped watching porn have they stopped going on Mindless dates if they cut out any music with lyrics any music with lyrics if they cut out caffeine and alcohol and also did some sort of stripped back Di diet you know for me it was more towards the carnivore

route it could be a vegan route I don't care the point is you need to understand what was the thing that you just ate that made you feel that way cuz bloating isn't normal but most people don't realize that they live go through their life and think that oh uh you know I eat food and I get bloated that's your body literally telling you I don't agree with this so for me if you can go through all that stuff it is my personal View point that 90% of people will be cleared of their depression or

their anxiety now for the 10% it goes a lot deeper there's some people that have truly gone through things and I'll be honest you know I'm giving you the light version here today I probably need another four or five hours to talk about you know I don't blame my mom because it's how you raised in Russia but you know my mom used to you know hit me all the time be the sh out me but that's just normal in that culture and she was going through a lot and a lot of pressure a lot of

pressure from my stepfather you know it was really coming from my stepdad that he's not good enough you know he he needs to learn how to use his Fork he needs to write better he needs to uh know the answer to this or how you know he's six years old how is he not read Charles Dickens yet uh so you know I've gone through a lot of stuff for sure that's was traumatizing to me growing up but when I cleared myself of any of these entrance when I blocked any of the entrances for these demons

to get in and for that dark energy to get in it went away and you don't need to live your entire life like that but when you're going through those periods and you're feeling extra fragile and you're feeling like you know the devil is knocking on your door you better make sure that you have no entrances you have no ways for him to get in what is Iman uh personal uh flaw that if you could fix in yourself you would probably not meeting people with where their love language is you know I read that book

when I was five love languages yeah I read that I read that book when I was 15 me and my girlfriend at the the time we both read it you we had a few I gave her a few relationship books that stuff like way of superior men you we both read these books now there's a link you just send it on WhatsApp you know and you're done and I understand it very well as a concept but understanding a concept and living it are two very different things M and I am very bad at verbalizing the

appreciation because sometimes I feel like I say I have a very pragmatic view on things you know so let's say you know let's say with a a girlfriend you know you feel like you being there in the relationship shows that you want to be there because if you weren't there if you didn't want to be there you would just leave so you feel like in a sense your presence already shows or you know I said for me it's uh the love language that I'm best at is you know acts of service so you understand you

know it's acts of service and gifts so for me it's like doing things for people and it could even be small things like you know charging their charging their devices when they're not around so but that doesn't necessarily mean that that's their love language they might not even care and that would hurt you because you're like I love you look at me I'm charging your phone exactly so you know even going back to the example of my mom or you know even some of my friends they may not give a and I know it's not

like I'm unaware of it I know that their love language is words of affirmation I know that does that mean that I go out of my way to do it not as much as I should do and I think in life you know what makes a great person is how much can they lean into thing that's most uncomfortable for them that's the thing that's most uncomfortable and I think it's important to have these conversations because I know a lot of the audience and I feel like especially in kind of the world we live in the

generation we live in you know a lot of dudes especially I like to speak to the guys they think oh you know I get my girl a Birkin bag and I get my mom a this and I get them that and that shows my love it's like yeah maybe for a specific kind of girl or maybe she feels just as empty as she did before the gifts that doesn't mean that you have melt made her feel any more loved so I'd say that's probably my biggest flaw is I understand it I concept conceptualize it I

I I see it for what it is but it's the difficult thing and I try my best to do the difficult thing but it's and you know the tricky thing this is where ego comes into play so let's say we're friends and for me uh let's say I'm the gifting guy and let's say it's not your love language at all so I bring you a gift and you don't use it and you don't even you just say thanks bro that's it right now I'm hurt M that my love wasn't it was Lost in Translation you

didn't appreciate I I feel my love was this much but it translated this much to the person that I care about so now it's a ego game I'm like how the is he still ungrateful I can't believe this guy I don't even want him to be my friend he's not my friend I'm offended mhm when I bring bring down my ego I'm like wait let me ask Iman what does he even care about and you're like bro I just want to go out for K and I just want to have tea with you and go

for a walk quality time correct so now I'm like ah okay it's not about me if I actually care about Iman I don't need to do what I like to get maybe I like gifts doesn't mean he like gifts and that's the middle ground that's where the ego is under control and you're starting to think ah this person like this and it's not easy because it's a very selfless act you know and it's not what comes naturally what comes naturally is you charging phones and things like that so yeah um are you arrogant what does

arrogance mean to you I know people accuse you of being arrogant so maybe if I add to the question do you understand when people call you arrogant this the issue what would they Define as arrogance what is arrogance today uh showing off private jet Brands um the cigar the I don't know the money you know that's I guess what's defined today as a showoff or a arrogant person no I don't think I'm arrogant because you can go look on my YouTube and I was 16 years old and I was you know there's videos of me

I'm six seven months into not signing another client I got my first win in my business I'm looking for my second and I'm like yeah listen I sent 20 proposals this week and nothing so I was honest I tried to relay honestly what am I going through when I had success in the business the initial success I relayed honestly this is what I'm going through when the business scaled up and in one weekend I lost three clients that made up 40% of my business's Revenue I said hey guys here's what happened here's what I learned

from it and that has gone on and gone on and gone on and I'll be honest there's things that to this day I think that's one of the difficult things about where I am with my business and my social media is there's a lot of things I don't talk about because it's too unrelatable and I feel like it doesn't serve a purpose to talk about it but the life that I live you know I'd say the most arrogant thing I could do is come in here and tell you that my life is perfect that's true

arrogance when everything needs to seem perfect my life is what what it is you know it's it's quite funny the other day you know those uh Instagram like highlights the memories I got one of those and it was me in May of 2018 so five years ago and it's a photo of me I took the photo cross-legged exactly as I am now Rolex on my wrist and a cigar in my head I looked at dressing like a grandpa which has been my style over the years I never dress the coolest I'd say but you know

it's my style and I just looked at I laughed I was like man nothing's changed has it you know things are a little different but I won't deny the fact that that I live a lavish lifestyle but I don't think that's necessarily wrong as I said there's aspects to my life which I feel like is so unrelatable and serves absolutely zero purpose to talk to the audience about because it applies to one in 100,000 people then why even get the you know the other 99 odd Etc thousand to think about it so you know to

answer your question by arrogance I am living life the way that I would whether there was cameras or No cameras and I live life authentic to me there's a lot of things I know a lot of people would do because it's considered cool cars for example you know I only bought my first car this year I'd made tens and tens of millions of dollars never bought a car so I think really that's to show that I like the things I like and over time that changes but a lot of it stays the same so I

live life true to me and if people find that arrogant so be it yeah I mean somebody will look and tell you okay you want relatable content what is relatable about a jet the fact that you can look eight years prior and see every single thing that I've ever done and go oh wow you can you can too MH and there's a lot of things that I do as I as I mentioned there's a lot of things that I buy that I don't talk about a lot of properties I own businesses I own I don't

talk about yeah how did you make your money if I can ask as you're 23 I know you I don't know much but I know you did the agency and you really worked hard on the agency on the retainers on the paid ads and promos if I'm not mistaken but that's it's also still very difficult to make a lot of money that way it's one of the easiest businesses dare I say even the easiest business to make a million dollars a year in profit maybe $2 million a year in profit you're not going to make

10 million a year profit from that you're correct so I ran that business for six years and in that time towards the tail end of it I launched a e-learning company cuz obviously because I had this interesting thing where people could see me from 15 and see me when I was 17 or 18 and I'm you know in my client's office and I'm like oh you know this is the you know I just got out the meeting with the CEO of oring they're a client of mine now I just got you know this is me

and uh my client that's flown me out in New York first class to you know consult their team because I had all that obviously everyone was asking how do you do this and you know that's why eventually in tail end of 2019 early 2020 I launched a company called grow agency specifically for agency owners and I you know I had that company for a couple years and that company leeway into my first ever software company so my first ever software company was I partnered up with one of my clients at the agency so one of

my clients at the agency her husband had spent a few years working on the software for influencer marketing and it just you know it was all self-funded and it just never really panned out but the tech was there and you know he came to me one day and said listen you have an audience you have a audience of agency owners what if we kind of tweak this thing and turn it into something for agencies and that's how my first software company agency flow started and you know this very big companies out there I don't know

if you're familiar with clickfunnels so I think they went from zero to billion dollar valuation in five years which is good but it's more impressive that it's all self-funded so no investors H and the reason they did that was because they had they got paid to get a customer so most businesses go $2 $300 in the whole you know infusion soft HubSpot these companies have to advertise and they only get their money four or five months later you know I'll be honest I even had clients like that at the agency because they're just trying to

they have a bunch of investors a bunch of money and they're trying to ratchet up as many users as possible to then sell what clickfunnels did is you know they advertised and got people doesn't matter matter who it was a funnel is the thing for them you have to create a funnel for your business and that was the messaging so they get people in and you know let's say it's even a $12 book someone buys a $12 book they spend $12 to acquire that customer and they've done that hundreds of thousands if not millions of

times but now they have a paying customer who then uses the software that's exactly what I did I had my e-learning business and you get paid on the run in because agency is the model that worked for me and on the back end what solution are they going to use it was agency flow and you know that's evolved over the last couple years you know I realized at a certain point there's only really one business model I would comfortably feel I would feel comfortable speaking about in terms of starting as a beginner because you know

there's many other businesses that I have for example you know I give to you my eyewear you know e-commerce when you're actually building a brand is Savage it's a very difficult business you know even we're 11 months into this year and I haven't taken out a single penny of profit from that company because every time you make money from that company you then go back to the manufacturer and go all right slash the price 8% slash the price 3% 15 you know whatever you can get away with you know depending on your uh order size

so going back to the e-learning company we rebranded from G agency to educate and I'm very passionate about education I just can't educate everyone because there's only so many things I know uh and that's where we've brought on different Educators so you know I love what master class did so it's very similar to master class but you I think master class is Awesome by the way uh but for $240 a year I don't know if that's necessarily worth it to learn cooking maybe it is but for the common person uh so our model at educate

is it's $125 a month uh so far more expensive in the first year is paid UPF front because you have your own concierge you have your own Student Success concierge uh but yeah you have this basket of different business models taught by different Educators and we've got some other cool stuff uh you know for example my Taylor is has recorded a program so we you know going back to not having a dad thing a lot of things that I wish someone taught me about you know like I was scared the first time I went to

Taylor I felt like I didn't belong there so we have all these hard skills and then all these soft skills and that's all under this package of educate which is great but that model isn't going to make you a billionaire the I guess more genius aspect behind it is you've got all of these business models and all of these Online Career paths as you know with pretty much every single business or every single career path you're going to need software so the software that people use because I try to build the best solutions for people

are businesses that I own I have a large Equity stake in or if I don't and I don't feel like buying a solution or creating a solution then it's businesses that I have 50/50 Partnerships with so anyone who uses that software and bear in mind it doesn't you know we only recommend the best softwares you know if you're starting an e-commerce business you need Shopify so if we're going to bring Shopify all these customers I'm going to be honest yeah we should be compensated for it so that is that's how you made the money that's

that's the and that's one of the businesses okay um why do you have a security guard mhm um so you have security for one of three reasons because you've pissed someone off and you know you need to stay safe which luckily uh you know I don't fall under that bracket M you have valuables on you you know expensive watch expensive jewelry this that whatever it may be and you're worried someone is going to take that from you once again I also don't fall under that bracket you know I happen to you know I've been a

big horology fan for many many many years so you know I have a pretty well-known multi multi-million dollar watch collection but if I had to give that up to not have security I would take that any day having security is not a fun thing I'll be honest then the last bracket is if you're very well known and I think very welln also falls under multiple different categories because listen if you are a football player and let's say you have 20 million followers or you're a musical artist and you have 20 million followers the musical artist

has 10 times more raving fan than the footballer because at the end of the day the footballer you know I'm sure they've definitely impacted lives but nowhere near to the same degree as a m musical artist you know it's in the same way uh TV talk show host with a certain amount of audience is going to have far more raving fans than someone who's just an actor because an actor is acting you you never feel that connected to them they never seldom do they genuinely truly change your life for example even with me you know

there's certain musical artists I listen to their album in a difficult period in my life or while I was going through something like that they you know they changed my life in a certain way or they sort of stamped a memory into a certain period of my life so although I don't have the biggest audience I mean it's it's definitely quite sizable I think the big difference with me is you know when you have millions and millions of subscribers and followers and this and that of people who lives you've changed that's a very different thing

than just you know having a millions of subscribers but you're just a you do whatever so I'm at a place where you know I'll be honest my head of security lives with me um I'd say probably five times a day someone tries to come to my house uh obviously I live in a gated community I have 24-hour Security in front of my house as well but I've had crazy stuff I've had people try to swim to get to my house uh I've had people rent Villas but why like why the obsession I mean even footballers

like you said don't unless you're a very very popular footballer very respectfully you're footballer you haven't really changed anyone's life but what do they gain if they swim and come to your house okay A lot of times they just want to say thank you that's not a normal thank you though that's an Olympic thank you I understand but once again I said if you spoke to most musical artists out there they would probably tell you A lot of the same sort of thing and bear in mind also that is a musical artist that maybe isn't

fully transparent you don't know all the details of their life like my life was is all there on YouTube to see every trial tribulation everything so there's people who have been watching me for six years who a lot of times just want to thank me and you know I am under the philosophy I genely believe this I don't care where I am like I could be running genuinely you know I run and people you know honk their horn and you know stop and try to get I will stop my run I don't care if I'm

at lunch I don't care if I'm shopping I don't care where it is I will always stop and take a photo and more importantly I'll ask their name and at least try to you know get to know them a little bit because they've given their most valuable thing to me their time they've given me their time and their attention the two places that I will not tolerate is my house and a place of worship to me those are the two places I feel like I should just get to be Iman and not this image of

Iman or whoever you think I am I feel like it should get to be me in my most calm peaceful state so you know to answer your question of you know why security it's not because I'm in any harm and any risk or this or that it's more so so I can have the best interactions with the people that follow my stuff and support me because I'll be honest sometimes I said if I'm running someone tries to talk to me for five minutes or three minutes and you know I'm I'm in the middle of a

run you know I'll be more than happy to stop and talk to you and and this and that but when it comes to now you know you're asking me questions for five minutes like I do kind of just want to get back to my run and security is very good or the security that I have is very good U because you know my head of security he Blends in he looks like a normal person and he'll just respectfully say uh you know Iman wants to get back to his run you know I hope you don't

mind this that just so that way I don't have to me the person who says no yeah and you know as I said even things like he keeps him and my other security they keep their eyes peeled and that's in a place like Dubai now once we start talking about a place like Cape Town which I had a house you know for many years a place like London these places are genuinely dangerous places and whether you have a watch on or not they think you have a watch on so more so in those places um

that's where security I think is it's like an insurance policy you know you don't need it until you need it and when you need it you hope it's there and you regret not having you regret and you ask yourself why you were so stupid to cuz though I'm telling you right now especially in places like London I don't think as a man you can live with yourself if someone was to ever come into your house and your wife and your family sees you in that state and your wife and your family sees you because this

happens a lot especially if you're welln a lot of Breakin and by the way not even if you're mega mega famous if you're moderately well known on social media you know you you are a Target at the end of the day and the idea that you know the world's a crazy place the idea that that can happen or we take it to an even smaller perspective I don't like the thought that my mom can be in London and someone's having a terrible day and whatever let's say my mom is walking across a zebra Crossing another

person decides not to stop and now someone else is flipping my mom off and cursing at my Mom this is just for me personally I've worked too hard in my life to make sure that my mom has to deal with any unnecessary disrespect and Dubai is an extremely extremely respectful place I love that about this place unfortunately the rest of the world doesn't share that same attitude so you go to places like London you go to places like New York and I guess as I said for me I've worked too hard to let stuff like

that happen when it doesn't need to let's switch Mr Iman you're good we switch to love y okay do you believe that opposite genders can be friends h I think yes they can but in very rare situations and I think usually the girls can be friends but the guys can't so it's actually us guys we're the idiots um so I think in a situation where you guys are childhood friends mhm yeah you know at the end of the day familiarity kills attraction so if you're familiar with a person for two decades you've seen him you

know through their acne phase and this and that a lot of times that that kills attraction so I think family friends that's an example actually yeah that might be one of the only examp family friends like just really old friends whereas you guys have been friends for so long that it's just nothing there I think that girls can most of the time be friends with guys uh I don't think that guys can necessarily be friends with girls or the other case and there are some rare instances there are some guys that if I'm just speaking

plainly have so many options you know you should never be I think a lot of girls worry that that you know uh maybe it's a Playboy who's going to do something creepy or the guy who has lots of options is going to do something creepy no it's the guy who has no options he is the person that will do something creepy so there's a lot of guys that I know that are just they're fine in that department they have a lot of options so they don't need to if there's a good if there's a good

friendship there and I also I think that's also another important thing is there needs to be a genuine friendship and there needs to be a give and take I think that's also one of the reasons why for a lot of times for guys and girls they can't be friends because a guy takes on a lot of risk being friends with a girl like for me with my female friends at the end of the day I'm responsible for them if we're out at dinner if we're on a night out I am responsible I'm responsible to make

sure they get home safe I'm responsible that nothing happens to them and you know that's a big responsibility for in a guy's mind nothing in return guys might look at that and I'm okay I'm doing all this but you know you're almost giving girlfriend she's the benefits of a girlfriend but you know you got none of the upsides of having a girlfriend you know which is that romantic as the a romantic aspect so I think as well when it comes to guy girl friendships I think it's very important that the girl asks herself you know

why would he be friends with me because I don't and I think this fits into people in general I don't think this belief and I see this a lot these days and AE this day and age of of my presence just me being here is the blessing just my mere presence is is the gift so I think uh you know with a good guy girl female friendship I think the girl does need to bring something to the table in whatever way that you can you know whether that is genuinely giving very good female advice whether

that's you know my my female friends are always trying to do things for me in terms of like help out in any way they can if they know I have this project even though they know I have tons of employees and people that work for me they're like oh is there any way I could help you know if it's let's say for one of my Brands there's a shoot oh can I come early and I'll get coffees for your team and help out and because they know that I've done so much for them in the

flip side so it's just a a given take so I think that's really what makes a is is very important uh to a good guy girl friendship is that there's a give and take and I think not every guy has the same worldview and the same perspective you know most guys they think oh if I'm out with my female friend it's not my responsibility to make sure they get home safe it's not my responsibility to make sure that they're okay so yeah maybe if we're talking those kind of guys then yeah who cares just maybe

your presence is enough but but if a guy is going out of his way to make sure that you are safe you're protected you're this and that and from a masculine perspective he's doing everything that he can then you need to find a way to reciprocate that in some form or fashion so I had a guest who some said something interesting he said as long as there's a physical attraction by either side it's never going to be a pure friendship and I thought that was a really good filter because I've asked this question I'm always

curious about the answer cuz it's like a dilemma you know some people like yeah they're like my sister my brother and and you're like can it actually work and then you realize I thought that was the best filter if there is a physical attraction by either side it's never pure I agree with that and I always because you know the you said it right you said females are more capable of doing it is the guys that have a heart time and the issue is because females are wearing the goles of friendship they're think thinking or

assuming the guy is wearing the same goggles the guy let's say nine out of 10 are thinking I just hope she gets Tipsy I just hope she breaks up I just hope she's vulnerable I hope she's grieving and I will take that opportunity and pray that she actually is attracted to me finally right and that's where women are really disappointed or I can't believe you try to touch my hand or kiss me or whatever but he's been deceiving you all along with that cloak you know he's under the Friendship cloak so I always when I'm

talking to a female friend and she's like no this guy's my friend this guy's my friend this guy's my buddy he will never I'm like okay let's play this game because you girls are more they're smarter than us you're more aware I'm like okay if you're sitting next to him and you just lean in for a kiss in a random Park let's say one day you're in a park and it's you're thing and you're talking and then you just lean in as if you're going to kiss would he kiss you back or not and if

she PA es you know she knows you see what I mean but if she goes no e he would never then I would be more rest assured that maybe he's really just a brother but if she has to think about it or hands forget the kiss I you just put your hand on the guy would he hold your hand back romantically I'm just doing it PG13 now but you know I think that's a good filter yeah I agree and I think I think most women know what the answer is they do but they don't want

to know they don't want to know because it's convenient and it's not I understand Iman it sucks if you see somebody as a friend and they don't see you as a friend because let's say they're cool and fun and interesting and they help you like you said with the project like it's you want that friend you don't want to believe that there's more to it so I understand their point of view too but the reality is completely different he's just waiting he's waiting for that chance and the thing is guys will wait a long time

yeah especially sorry for the word the loser guys correct because I the same guy who said that what I told you the physical attraction filter he said something I have the clip and I should translate it for you in a in a way he's like any person even a girl with you who acts like your friend is form of a deceit it's deceit I'm not true to you mhm I have an agenda I'm she's just waiting for Iman to one day like her or break up or whatever so it's not real not genuine you know

and I don't and that's what I said why I said loser guys because I would respect a guy who says listen we've been friends for three years I started to have feelings for you I think you're the greatest woman for me and if you don't if you can't see me that way I respectfully withdraw because this is not good for my heart I swear respect but don't sit there asking is everything okay with your boyfriend not don't do that you know that's what I don't like correct and then women I think things maybe have changed

a little bit recently but then women think you're controlling if you question okay you guys started becoming friends two years ago how did you become it's like how did you meet are you really friends why is he your friend so it's a funny Dynamic it's very interesting but we'll come to you now more from General to you have you been in love mhm I have how do you behave when you're in love because you're a pragmatic guy and a logical guy and a practical guy so I'm assuming depends what kind of lover you're talking about

you help me why I think think there's what people think love is which is the first anywhere from 6 months all the way to 2 years but that's not love that's being high on a drug and you know if every time you've been to Amsterdam from the second you touch down you're high to the moment you leave and you talk about how much you love Amsterdam you don't love Amsterdam you just like being high yeah and I think that's what love is for a lot of people they bounce around from one year to your relationship

bounce bounce bounce bounce keep looking for that high for me as you said I am very pragmatic so I don't trust that like I don't I look at it for what it is which is hey this is a beautiful period where yeah you love everything about this person but I also know that that I don't think I can call that true love until you get far into it and I think there is you know true love is when you wake up you know after 15 years and I said this once and people found it depressing

but I think this is the most beautiful thing ever you wake up 15 years in the morning you look at your person next to you and you're not particularly attracted to them the attraction's gone but you would never ever consider leaving this person to me that's true love when you look at the person you're next to and you're like whatever happens we are in this for life that is the most beautiful feeling and the most liberating feeling anyone could ever have I think that's true peace I'll help you since we're both going to be morbid

you know when I really like love is when I go especially in Europe m not America cuz they don't dress as nice as Europe and I see these really old couple so welld dressed and holding hands I'd love that because that's where what you kind of just said the looks are gone the spontaneity and all of this crazy you know attraction is gone in the chemistry but there is and it gentle love maybe sorry to interrupt you that also doesn't mean that there aren't moments of that you know just because you know 75% of the

year you don't get that feeling doesn't mean that there isn't those other times where you wake up after 22 years and you wake up and you look at your partner and she looks like a literal Angel she looks like she's glowing and you're like this is the mother of my children like we created a life we create we created a life together and we created life together and you know I don't think that ever goes I think the every single day you look at the person you're with and you want to rip off their clothes

I think that lust goes and I think good I think good riddens to it because in life when things are good and easy if you enjoy something or you love something that doesn't mean that you truly love it you know if you only like your business when it's easy or if you only like being a parent when it's easy that doesn't mean you love parenting you know really truly loving something in life is you're there and you show up when it sucks and it takes work and it takes effort and we've all had that feeling

whatever it is in life where we're like you know what this I don't need this and if you have that thought and you snap yourself out of it and the next second you're like what am I saying here this is I can't give up on this yeah yeah I don't know to me it's like that's just the most beautiful thing ever my mother always used to tell us boys she goes um looks are the first things you get used to mhm habits values those are what stay you're with a gorgeous guy or you're with a

Gorge gorgeous girl okay what if foulmouthed bad values she treats your mom like crap what are you doing Iman like really you want all of this although she's a Miss God knows what what's what's the point there's many of those and one of the most beautiful necklaces I have uh I have it in Arabic it says speak so I can see so IM I can meet you and be like H if I care about materialistic thing I can be like so impressed right but I don't if I don't give a about all of this I'm

like speak so I can see you speak IM because then I know you do I like you do I like this do I like how you speak Are you rude are you arrogant are you modest are you wise and that for me I learned with life doesn't matter how good-looking you are my darling let's talk then I know more sorry you were going to say something no you're 100% correct and I guess you know maybe people won't like this analogy but as you brought up the car thing I've also noticed that in life you know

a lot of guys as they're in their early stages they want the Ferrari and then they get the Ferrari and then they realize after some time it sucks there's nothing good about this I mean of course it's exciting at times and this and that but you know then they get further on in life and they get a little wiser and all they want is just a good car that they can rely on and they feel comfortable and safe inside and you know that's really all to say just going back to the beauty thing it's been

my personal observation that the most respectable men that I've met a lot of times they don't have the miss something something a lot of times they don't have this Mega Superstar super model this that a lot of times they still a very beautiful you know elegant classy woman but it's it's not the looks that's impressive you know it's the way that they carry themselves and the way they know okay this is how we protect our kingdom okay so you've been in love and you went a bit gener generic because you said you're pragmatic and you

you like the phase that comes after the year M or two now we zoom out again so not Iman why do you think so many people cheat well it's different it's different for whether a man cheats or a woman cheats so if a man cheats I believe it's because he's giving into his carnal desires and because he's misguided you know I'll be very honest Frank op you know that's something I've done in the past when I was younger and that's because I guess I grew up in an environment where it's very clear love is not

a thing love is not something that lasts love is also something to run away from I think sometimes I think definitely espe you know for me it was a way to run away from something that was so pure you know when I was younger I must have been 18 or 19 at the time you know when I cheated it was I had such a good thing and I was so scared and that was my way of like self-sabotage so I think as a man it's either you can't control yourself and you're giving into your carnal

desires or it's a form of of self-sabotage I think as a woman and I know this I I genuinely know this is going to sound crazy to some people or at least this was my experience you can as a man you can cheat and never once think badly of your partner you can cheat and never once like it never comes as crazy as it sounds from a disrespectful place you're just they said maybe you're so scared or you're running away or you're trying to self-sabotage whereas I find that when a woman cheats it's pretty much

always from a disrespectful place and it I mean that in the sense of she doesn't respect her partner anymore yeah and I'm also a person who is under the impression that everything is man's fault you know I know I have some very crazy opinions on things but when I hear that you know a woman has cheated on a man I always blame the man maybe that's just my character I always like to take responsibility for everything and I think you know men should be responsible for everything and this and that but I think I've never

seen it where a woman truly genuinely from the bottom of her heart respects her man and is in admiration of her man and cheats but do you think I want to use your your point do you think a woman who has bad experience in love from previous meets a really good guy actually falls in love but love but that's so too good to be true and she believes internally she doesn't deserve that love God knows why because of her childhood or whatnot and then she does the self- sabotage okay so to give a little bit

more Nuance what I always say is that 80% of the time it's a woman stops respecting a man respecting a man and 20% of the time it's trauma and it's her character and I still always blame men for that because I think as a man you should be competent enough to see your partner and understand see the chinks in the armor and understand that we all have a life story as I said I had the Lal worst example of what love is and all I was taught from a young age is run away from love

run away from love run away from love and that is absolutely no excuse to ever cheat but it's you know it's part of your story and it's flaws that you know it takes time to work on and eventually you work through so I do agree with that I think that some women have experienced such horrendous things that no matter how good something is they'll sabotage it and I think a lot of times they are addicted to emotions I think people are addicted to emotions you do have to ask yourself when a woman has been with

four abusive Partners how does that keep happening again and again because of course there is abuse out there but majority of men aren't like that majority of men aren't physically abusive so how after four Partners do you keep finding the same thing again and again it's because you're addicted to that emotion so you're correct in saying that but as I said I always like to think that as a man you should be able to see these signs are you putting too much load on us guys I don't know um if you cheated and your partner

is never to find out would you tell her or not I think in life and I can speak from experience here I think in life everything that's done in the shadows comes to light and I've never seen it once in life where you do something and you do a wrong and you sin and it comes back to the pendulum swings out other way and you face the repercussions now the repercussions might be instantaneous the repercussions might be in a month the repercussions might be in 37 years and but'll come back so is that yes or

no yeah you tell them you would tell her mhm okay now another or maybe the last love question um why do you think so many marriages fail in a in this Modern Age I think it goes back to everything I was saying which is people watch these movies and everything is light and fairy and perfect and magical and every single date should be this beautiful idyllic thing and everything should be should feel like a movie and I think that's probably the most cancerous thought you can have about love I think love at times can feel

like War I think love at times can feel like a battle but if you know why you're fighting it that's the beauty of it so I think if I think if we changed our perception around love from this thing of it's commitment we make this thing work now bear in mind there is a percentage of people that you try to make it work if you try to make it work for many years and from the bottom of your heart you both can truly rest easy at night and go we just couldn't then of course course

don't stay in something that isn't happy but I don't think most people are like that I think most people it gets a little uncomfortable and it gets a little uncomfortable and they go watch the latest movie that's out and oh it's beautiful and romantic and the Love Never Dies passion Never Dies passion never goes away we're just the biggest load of ever passion goes away no matter what you do in life it has been my listen there's things people say for TV and there's things people say because they want to be a good face and

keep a good brand but passion goes away what is always there is you know at least in work is Mastery and in in your love life in your marriage I think you need to want to have Mastery in marriage and Mastery in Union so they go and watch these movies and then the worst part is and that's why it gets very dangerous especially with a lot of women they have their divorced friends and their divorced friends as horrible as it sounds want someone to join the pity party with them so things get a little Rocky

and they've got their friend in there air saying why do you need him you know and and listen of course it goes vice versa you know a LW guys but in today's day and age women do initiate majority of the marriages sorry uh majority of the divorces so as I said it gets dangerous because then they've got that friend in their ear that wants them to join the pity party and doesn't say hey work through it you love this person tell me why you love this person tell me what initially Drew you to this person

sit down with me right now I've had this conversations with my friends that are in their 30s and 40s I say sit down me right now tell me 10 things you love about this person and by the end of it they're like yeah you're right perspective they're like yeah you're right what was I thinking blah blah blah now imagine if they went to the other friend and they were like nah you don't need her why do you need her you know it's not like you guys have dedicated seven years of your life together and she

gave you her best years and now you're going to sit around you know turn around like a jackass and just throw that in her face so that's why I think the friends are very very important and I think when you're in a marriage you have to be very careful this goes for both sides you have to be very careful who is my partner friends with who is my husband friends with who is my wife friends with CU a lot of times those friends will be the people that truly end the marriage it won't be the

marriage itself there's a nice Hadith by the prophet Muhammad he says the person is on his best friend's religion so whatever that religion ish so when you you know they say there's another saying uh show me your friends I'll show you who you something like that there's a saying that you know if I want to really know Iman show me the five closest people to you then I'll get a good idea you know so if they're all cheaters and you're like no but I'm the loyal one like sooner or later it will influence you you

know or they're all smart you're like ah he's a smart person he's a deep person he reads just on that point of tell me you know that's even why I believe it's pastors they never travel in twos they always travel in threes cuz if one person wants to sin and convince the other to sin then at least there's a third one to step in and knock some sense into them interesting do you think you'll be a good father I do yes yeah I do why I think when it comes to being a dad it's about

going out in the world and learning a lot and instilling that wisdom in your children you know before we went on the you know we started recording we said you know do you do you do a law podcast and I told you no I don't uh you know I took a break for a year and I I think after this I intended on taking another break for a long time and the reason why is because I need to go and I need to learn and I need to bring that back to my audience and the

same way I believe as a father you need to go and you need to go do difficult things and you need to go experience the world and you need to bring that back to your children and I think that's something that I'm definitely very good at so I think I'm very aware self-aware of the type of father that I want to be and the type of mother that I want my wife to be and I think that when you've got a team that both understands what position they want to play that's the strongest Union you

could ever have magic um what's your problem with the educational [Music] system I think my problem is with its Origins that it was literally created to spit out mindless obedient Factory workers and if you actually if you actually look at the history books that was quite literally the purpose of it you know the Prussian education system I'm sure you've come to realize in your life as well that a lot of times this smartest kids in school don't go on to be the smartest or the most successful people in life because in life the most important

thing is critical thinking is without someone telling me how to think how to do I come to my own conclusions cuz at the end of the day if the only way you know how to think is in the confines of a box that someone set for you then you don't know how to think so you know it's funny I say all this stuff because I am I guess a walking drer position because on the one hand I dropped out of school on the one hand I have this e-learning platform where I bring on the best

Educators in the world world and you know I try to give people the best online education possible and then on the other hand I've been building schools in Nepal for four years so I have you know I've built a schools physical schools for thousands and thousands of children so I believe in education I just believe in you have to have the right education for your opportunities and where you are in life I don't think one of the children at one of my schools in Nepal should go and start a this business or that business or

whatever like if they have a good education in that part of the world if you have a good education you will do well full stop if you live in the US or Europe or wherever it may be a good education does not equate to a more successful career and I think 40 years ago everyone should have gone to college because there was a very clear-cut correlation between the more educated you are in college the more you make these days that's not the case whatsoever and the issue is people don't understand I guess I have less

problem with school I've had more and more of a problem with it in the last five or so years with what they're teaching because it genuinely is crazy what they're teaching children in school you know I'm grateful I'm not a parent right now because I you know I have friends of mine whose children go to school and it's it's actually shocking what they teach them you know that you can be a or you can be a this tomorrow you can wake up and be a light bulb and you know you can choose to be whatever

you want uh yeah it's to me it's genuinely disgusting to try to implant that in a six-year-old's mind if you want to have that conversation at 18 so be it if you want to have the conversation at 18 that you can be whatever you want to be beautiful have that conversation when someone's fully developed their mind at seven that is genuinely disgusting and I believe should be criminal so I guess as I said over the last few years I've grown more and more disgusted by the by school but universities I've always been universities and colleges

I've always never been a fan of because it's the student loans that make it so expensive I'll give you an example I like to think that I am a very ethical and moral business person and you know I have a long track record to prove that I I am but I'm going to be very honest with you if tomorrow the government comes out and says anyone who wants to invest in online education we will give a 100% loan to anyone I'm going to raise my prices everyone in the all land education space is going to

raise their prices if the government came out and said we will give a loan to anyone doesn't matter who it is to take tennis classes I guarantee you within three years tennis classes will cost 10 times as much as they currently do and that's what has happened with college because anyone can get approved for student loan the universities aren't dumb they go okay all right well the government's paying for it so let's ratchet up the prices so I think that is generally my big gripe with colleges is it's not just colleges it's any business in

general that increases prices without trying to add extra value MH and in fact they keep increasing prices of prices but the results that their students get keep declining and declining same with medical insurance why is today an x-ray so expensive because it's based on insurance corre not based on your pocket or his pocket MH so go up correct it's a dirty way of doing work yeah I mean listen it's the same thing same philosophy applies with housing bubble you know all of a sudden a cleaner can get a you know no money down three mortgages

and you're said there you're asking you know respectfully you know you have a quite a low income how do you have you know two beachfront properties and you know that's because at a certain point willy-nilly they're giving out no money down load to anyone because they're incentivized so I don't think it's specifically that industry that is it's very obvious to see why it's happening but the issue is as I said everyone can get a student loan you know even in the midst of the 2008 crisis you're still going to need to put some work in

to convince uh you know Banks to give you a loan and give you a mortgage there's still like some friction and some you know still a lot being a lot of people being turned away but when everyone can get a student loan and that's the other thing in what world do you live in where a at yold will go to a bank and go give me 50 Grand give me 100 Grand give me 300 Grand and I have no plan on how I'm going to make that money back but you can go and get a

you know 150 Grand loan student loan to start study a Liberal Liberal Arts degree what are you going to do with the future I don't know I'm just in University I'm just I'll figure it out later what's your what's your issue with social media I have many [Music] um you know it's funny obviously I have you know relatively large social media following but I tell people on my YouTube videos I tell people all the time listen the best thing you can do is delete YouTube I tell people all the time what you are doing right

now my videos are very informative my videos are me trying to relay what I've learned over the last decade but I tell my audience when you watch me or when you watch this podcast for example this is entertainment now you a bonus is you might learn something but don't go into it thinking this is education or this is my study time or I'm really doing something productive here here so I'd say that my issue with social media is people's you've got the people who are scrolling Tik Tok mindlessly and of course I think obviously they

know that they're wasting their life I don't think there's any part of them that doesn't know that they're wasting their life but I think probably the even more dangerous side is the people who are the podcast yeah I don't even want to say the word you can say it I won't get they're the podcast for us you know who watch podcast and and think oh you know I'm doing so much with my life you're not doing anything that's Entertainment you might learn something but don't think that that's a substitution for going and doing something with

your life so as long as people have a healthy relationship with social media and what they're consuming and they're really auditing what they're consuming because social media can make you believe some funny things you could be the happiest person ever you could have a life that you dreamed of and you go on social media and you see one person and I I really want people even when they look at my stuff I I've tried to say this many times when you're looking at my stuff go ask yourself when you see me dress a certain way

and you're like maybe I should start dressing like that is that true to you CU maybe you like to dress flamboyantly I don't really wear colors that much maybe that's true to you when you see me and my decisions to move to Dubai don't think you need to move to Dubai as long as you can look at social media and you have a you know a strong mindset which a lot of people don't as long as you can look at social media and not get swayed because even as strong as I am I sometimes I'm

even on social media and I look at you know one person who started this business and I'm like oh you know what maybe I should it wouldn't be that much work maybe I just like I'll call my team and then you know we'll spin off the company and then do and and then you get to him and you're like this thought isn't even mine or you know you might see a location and you're like you know maybe I should move there and then eventually you look at and you're like this isn't my thought this is

just this has come from one small little thing and then it's spiraled into this massive thing so my biggest issue with social media is its ability to Veer people off a track that was a good track you could be doing everything right with your life everything right you're going at the right pace in the right direction and you see some other and now all of a sudden you think that oh you're not you're not moving fast enough or you're not doing enough or you're not doing this or you're not doing that you know it's crazy

100 years ago 50 years ago 30 years ago you could be doing so well in life you know you could be let's say you're 26 and you're making 400 Grand a year you know back then let's say whatever 200 200 50 200 Grand a year and you know you have a beautiful wife and you have your first new newborn and you have a good life and and in your mind 30 years ago you are a king like you are successful you've done everything right this time now if you're 26 and you have a beautiful wife

and a beautiful child and you make 400 Grand a year which by the way is a very respectable amount of money you're going to look online and you're going to go oh I'm not a multi-millionaire this that I'm a failure I'm a BL it's like this is why I try to come on these platforms and even my own platform and I try to tell people this is my life that I have chosen it doesn't mean it's the best life it doesn't mean it's the life that's right for you so figure out what is right for

you based on your season of life so I would say that's my biggest issue with social media is it will just steer you in wrong directions when you could be on the right [Music] path if you could teach children one lesson only what lesson would you teach them how to truly sit and listen to someone's story H because I think that when you listen to someone's story and you realize how they got to you may hate a destination but if you realize that hey this person got given a map and they got given the wrong

coordinates and they were meant to go this way and maybe they went the wrong way and this and that and all of a sudden they end up at this horrible place you're just thinking how could that person end up at that destination but when you don't realize that they've been given a wrong map one breeds hatred and contempt and thinking that you're better than someone and the other one breeds understanding and going hey I'm I might not agree where you ended I may not agree the destination you got to but I can understand why you

got there and just cuz I don't agree with it doesn't mean that you're a bad person M for landing there and I think the only way that that happens is by having conversation and truly hearing someone's story I think you know if before any debates in life if the prerequisite to debate is you need to spend 30 minutes let's say in this format and you need to talk to someone and ask someone the exact same questions that you ask me because I'm sure you know this I'm sure many people tell you this but you ask

brilliant questions you ask questions that really shine a light on a person's character and you know I just want to also say pay my respects to you for that because you know you don't need to do the level of research that you do into a guest I've never ever ever had someone reference my mom's name you know I've never had someone ask me the questions that you've asked me but there might be people who came into this podcast and maybe as you said think I'm arrogant or maybe hate me and maybe after watching this they

still may not agree with the way I live my life but they can understand okay I understand how we got there and I think if we could teach children the skill that you've been able to cultivate so well I genuinely think the world would be a much better place thank you I have another question for you because you mentioned just now how is your relationship with money I see it two ways I see it as a tool as a tool to make more people's lives better and by the way I want to make something very

clear that three years ago if you asked me that and I gave you that answer I'll be talking off my ass and I think it's really important I think that's one of the things I hate about social media is I can watch something and tell that this person's PR person rehearsed that with him and told them say that say that make yourself look good I think you have to get to a point in life where you you are good yourself and then you get to a point where you are so abundant that you can really

genuinely mean it when you say these things so I look at money as a tool for doing better in the world and I will be honest I look at money as a benchmark and I don't think there's anything wrong with that I think if I if you were interviewing me and I was a professional Sprinter or let's say I was a professional marathon runner and I told you last year I ran in this time and this year I ran in this time and I was proud and I was excited about that everyone would clap and

think wow well done you should be proud of yourself but if someone sits here and says last year I made this much money and this year I made this much money you're arrogant you're a prick how dare you all this stuff and I understand it's because most people think that the only way you get ahead in the world is by it's because of all these movie depictions that you know the boss or the person who owns the company you know kicks his feet up on the table and works while everyone else makes him Rich I'm

sure as you know that's most certainly not the case it literally couldn't be farther from the truth so for me it is definitely a benchmark of how much impact number one am I making in the world and also sometimes how much growth have I had as a person CU I will be honest sometimes you can make money and you haven't truly impacted the world sometimes you've just made some very smart Investments sometimes you bought into the company at the right time sometimes you bought into an investment at the right time let's not sit here and

pretend like you made the world a better place but that's still a skill set you still you know that you still have cultivated the skill of knowing how to make money make more money so I still think that's a barometer for your growth as a person so yeah to answer your question I see it as a a tool for better you know I've said this even before I had any money I intend on dying with zero nothing I don't intend on giving my children anything because I know I know just how depressing money can make

your life all the downsides that money comes with and that's when you've made your money yourself imagine if you have all those downsides and you've never even gone through the trials and tribulations to know that oh you know at least I accomplished something to make this happen so a tool for better and a barometer for who you've become as a person if you had a dinner table mhm and you can add three people dead or alive and everybody understands each other so if if languages Chang it's fine which three people would sit with you for

dinner first one will be Marcus aelius oo I'm impressed I love Marcus ores that's that's the first time I get that answer okay you impress me with the first one okay let's go to the other two yeah I don't think the other two will be as impressive um yeah Marcus aelius I'd say the second one would probably have to be Hitler because I think it's listen I think in life you need to know good and evil and what makes those worlds what makes good good people good and what makes evil people evil and also as

I said I guarantee you as horrible as that man was I guarantee you if you sat him down here for five hours and you went into like we were talking about earlier we went into every part of his story at the end you might still hate him but you would go okay I can see how he arrived at that destination no matter how disgusting that destination is and the third one I'd say is probably Cleopatra because women are such powerful creatures women are such powerful beings women are such powerful they're I think that a woman

who's truly powerful can sway her man's decision and I think that just like Cleopatra did you know she influenced the greatest men in the world and even though they're meant to be the the leaders and the Kings and this and that behind the scenes in a sense she was the one calling the shots so I would love to speak to a woman who's so well-versed in the art of power power who's so in touch with her feminine Essence and how she uses that CU you know as the masculine Essence is you know we're going to

do things we're going to push we're going to we're going to enforce our will on the world whereas the feminine Essences you know we're going to in a sense manifest and we're going to let go and things will come you know things will come into existence so I think as I said I'd love to meet a woman who was just probably one of the best ever to do it I have a question that I've never asked before okay I just came up with it recently and they wrote it like this okay oh how did she

write it yeah to be good enough all right it's a cool one okay but needs your needs your imagination let's see if it works it's your my first trial okay so imagine Iman imagine you're on an Island and you wake up stranded on an island okay suddenly you wake up you're stranded on an island MH what are the three emotions that you feel there's no way about it fear fear let's remember what you answer yeah fear fear energy fear energy and motivation fear energy motivation okay next you're walking on this island and you find a

box what is it made made of and how big is the Box what I would like it to be how do you imagine it now when I said it what did you imagine the first thing I imagined was a treasure Trove okay so it's made of what utilities no the thing is made wood wooden okay like those pirate boxes you see yeah how big maybe y big okay and now a man you open the box what do you see inside utensils tools utensils so utensils like this or like tools tools cutting net you know things

surv rival kit okay after everybody's focused cuz nobody knows this question they're like what is this new one where's this going okay after the treasure box and we opened it you walk and you see a ladder what is the ladder made of and how tall is it low small medium large it's small M it's a metal ladder metal ladder and when you get on top of this ladder is it shaky or stable stable stable okay after the ladder you're walking and suddenly you see a tiger okay what do you do I freeze okay that's it

I freeze and I wait you wait for what to see the Tiger's reaction and then what do you do it depends on the Tiger's reaction okay also it depends on the Tiger's reaction and how far away I am from the ladder okay interesting you walk walk walk IM and you see a river what do you do a river on this island so it's not salt normal River I look at how far the other side is how far the other side where the where it goes where it takes okay where it takes me okay ready mhm

let's see this is right huh you're my labat sorry so the island and how do you feel what did you say fear energy and motivation motivation that is how you feel in this period in your life okay fearful motivated and energetic okay uh the treasure is made out of wood which is sturdy and that is your heart okay your heart is made out of a very stable material right how big the treasure is is how big your heart is or how vulnerable you'd open it it's not too big that you open it to the whole

world and not too closed of that is dead so it's a normal size I would say and then you said what's inside what's inside is what makes your heart which is tools utensils and how you are of service so that came out I think accurate that is how you show love MH that is your heart it's net utensils tools cutting you help and fix and do all of that and then you walked and you saw the ladder and the ladder is your network it's a small Network so you have a small close group of people

in your life you said it's made out of metal so it's a very strong network of people small is the how vast it is and you have a small one and uh the stabil this the relationship status with those Network which is a strong one a lot of people say shaky or and shaky you're like okay then um we went onto the tiger and that's how you face your problems you freeze and wait and see what to do according to that issue and then the river is how you feel about love in your life you

want to see where it takes you yeah sh not bad huh it's good you think you would do that with a romantic partner I do it to everybody yeah I think it's I have a few of those I have another one called cookology Cube test I can do that for you later uh some of them are really interesting because they play on the subconscious so you're answering me but you don't know what you're answering because if I ask you what do you feel about love you like this how do you feel in your life like

yeah and I usually use this test to verify what I heard earlier you know card game let's do the card game this is the card game I'm going to give you one also so you can with your mother friends but we'll just do one okay so this is the our card game which we worked on for a while we'll give you a copy but let me just take a few we'll play on fate with this one let's see your fate okay we have enough here all right I'm put more mix see I'll take the first

one I feel like some people are so good at mixing some very few actually they got like cool like little trick they go yeah okay you can tell I've never played poker H this is a marriage one so we go to the next one this is really good your faith is interesting I'll ask and then you throw the action if you had the chance to be reborn would you choose your life again throw this throw it throw it anywhere B Sure huh I think one more ma one more and one word one word if you

had the chance to be reborn would you choose your life again yes interesting it's a good question sometimes you know some people wouldn't they wouldn't even want to be born in the same family and of God does and I respect their honesty you know mhm okay enough with the fun ones um what is the question you don't want me to ask and what's your answer H I don't know I feel like I like the challenge I feel like you could ask anything you feel you're that type of person anything mhm you take it yeah I'd

like to believe that is there a question you want me to ask you that I haven't asked no to be honest as I said this a bit one of the most thorough no scratch that the most thorough podcast I've ever done at times it felt like a podcast at times it felt like two friends talking over coffee at times it felt like a forensic investigation so I feel like you you covered all angles okay we have a few more happiest moment in your life so far I can't think of a specific happiest moment because all

the all of the times I thought I would be the happiest you get to that moment it's fleeting and it's never what you thought it was going to be so I feel like my happiest moments a little times when you're walking in a park and you know that when you're walking in a park and you can hear the leaves swishing in the wind when that's when you're at that place in life for me I feel like you have true peace and presence and there have been times in my life like that it's definitely not common

these days but I would say happy in the sense that most people consider it to be is what I'm most at peace and most present what do you think is the biggest lie people tell themselves I think the biggest live people tell themselves is about what they want in life I think as I said because we live in a world of so much noise people have these dreams and these desires but they're worried that they're going to be shunn for it that they're going to be outcast and that could be no dad I don't want

to become a dentist I want to do this with my life it could be in that way or on the flip side it could be complete opposite Spectrum which is like no I want to be 21 and get married and spend the rest of your spend the rest of my my life building a family with someone and then this guy's friends are like no that's gay you know it can be on two different ends of the the Spectrum so I'd say the biggest lie is people not being honest as to what they want from life

and I always think that you know whenever you're whenever something causes an emotional trigger in you unpack that because when you really don't give a about something you don't care you just you may not agree with it but you just you guys can live your life like that I don't care but when it causes causes an emotional charge in you then there's something something there's probably something more there than than you want to admit to yourself there's a saying anything hysterical is historical so when you see yourself going hysterical or feeling too much about something

there's a history to it so whenever you see you do something and and you get a very extreme response and you're like hey why are you so upset I just did I just said that but you know that's not what happened just now there's a lot well said yeah um what is something that somebody has told you that has hurt you and you've never forgotten I guess the reason I'm struggling with this question is there's two sides say there's the hurt and then there's the Forgotten there's been things that people have said that have hurt

me maybe I'm reading into it too much but I think when you say forgotten the way I interpret that is that still affects you or you still think about it it's the most hurtful thing somebody has said and you can't forget maybe you're over it but it was stuck I think it in that case it has to be the the way my stepfather talked about my mother and I couldn't do anything about it you know I lived in this world of having to try to appease to people and no matter what my stepdad said about

my mom you know however many hurtful things he said about her you know I lived in a environment where I just had to shut up and I couldn't talk back so I think you know as I said it's not the reason I struggle with this question it's not something that keeps me up at night but it's something that was hurtful at the time and I I think more so than it being hurtful was the fact that you know you can't you just got to shut up and take it what was the most hurtful thing he

said you know while he's uh I think it's always interesting what uh I think it's always interesting what insult someone throws at someone because a lot of times it's a reflection of who they are so you know my stepdad was very uh had his escapades and you know uh fooled around and did this and that and in the same token you know he's out here call my mom a and a this and a that and you're eight years old you're seven years old and you know you got I'm I said I lived in such a

dictatorship environment where I can't I want to I want to kill him in that moment but you can't you know the world I lived in you just got shut up and you got to take it m so I think it's not so much the hurtfulness side of things because it's not nice to hear but it's you know it's not like a it was hurtful I I think in life for something to truly be hurtful there needs to be there needs to be a small part of you that believes it's true when you say something to

someone and I think I said this is why it's so important for you to unpack your emotions when you get criticism from someone and you think okay that's your opinion but I'll with my best judgment I can confidently say that's not [Music] true it doesn't it doesn't affect you you just you know rolls off your shoulder but when someone criticizes you and a small part of you believes that's true it's going to eat away at you so the reason I bring that up is it wasn't that part of the equation was missing when he was

saying those things about my mom it was the reason it was hurtful is cuz I couldn't say anything back mhm and it's that feeling of helplessness what does um your mother m not mean too listen she's uh been the most impactful figure in my life I think of her kind of like you know that Olympic torch like she's that she's that torch and she lit the flame and she passed it on to me and I I don't necessarily think that there was a light before that you know my grandparents are incredible humans but as I

said it's the Soviet Union it's it's a family of seven there isn't that direct guidance to a specific child so I feel like she kind of lit the flame has pass it on to me and I'm excited to pass it on to the next generation of our our lineage do you have someone in your life because you keep being excited about being a dad if I may ask you know listen I think as you achieve a lot of things in your life you take off certain things a lot of the things that you wanted to

accomplish in your life you accomplish and you get the things you want in life you accomplish the things you want in life I think for me one challenge that I haven't conquered is being an incredible husband and being an incredible father so the reason I talk about it so much is is because I think it's one of the best things and one of the most fulfilling things you can do in your life and it's not something that's in front of me right now but I look forward to it you see how he dodged the question

we'll let him pass um if God forbid uh tonight is your last night and you will die and you have no way before you die to communicate with anybody who would you regret not communicating with I think it's a matter of which one who would have caused the most pain to if I hadn't communicated with them and I think you know I know I keep referencing my mom here of course I love my mom but it's the reason I reference my mom is cuz I have no siblings I have no father like I when I

say my mom I mean family and she is my pretty much one and only family so yeah it would when you ask me that question the thing I think to is there's so many people I'd want to say goodbye to and there's 10 people in my life that like they are my they're the brothers and sisters that you know I never got to have and you know even some of them the uncles that I never got to have uh but at the end of the day it comes down to if I did leave this earth

without saying goodbye to someone who would that haunt the most and for me that is your direct family and that means my mom what would you tell her if you could I would tell her listen I'm about to go it wasn't my choice I want to make that clear uh and I want you to know I had an incredible life and I just talk about how amazing my life was and yeah just let her know that you know I genuinely can say I've lived life to the fullest has been my life has been the lowest

lows and the highest highs it's been a spectrum of emotions and I think that's what makes a good life and I would make that very clear because I wouldn't want there to be any remorse or sadness and I truly mean that if as he said God forbid I go tomorrow I'll be I'll be pretty happy there's a couple things I didn't imag should do but I would I would definitely say that I would be pretty fulfilled that the life I did live the short life that I did live I felt like I lived in a

proper way lust Iman in one word faith faith why in the most literal sense and in the sense that you know when I was I think I was probably maybe seven six or seven when I started praying and you know I always used to if you ever I'm sure you've been to London you know the houses are very they're about this this wide and that tall so you know uh uh my my bedroom so actually no I must have been yeah seven at this time cuz until I was seven I never had my own bedroom

so yeah I must have been seven at this time on the second floor of my house when times were really really tough I know it sounds crazy I would always look down to the ground and I would I don't I don't want to do this and I would look down to the ground and I would think about what would happen if I jumped and then I'd also think you're an idiot you're just going to break your legs and this going to look stupid you're not going to accomplish anything with this uh but whenever I had

those thoughts I would look up and I would pray so I think my life is a testament to Faith that you need to have faith in whatever it is that you believe um once again I guess this is another one of my harsh opinions I am I can be friends with someone from every religion except for an atheist that's the one uh religion and don't get it twisted it is a religion you follow the religion of science that I struggle to get along with as much you know if I so going back to my point

my life has been faith in something bigger than myself and then that you know there has been a life path set out for me and there is something bigger than myself who's watching out for me as long as I live in accordance and idea as long as I live in the accordance and to the ideals that they would wish so my life has been faith in something bigger than myself and my life has been faith in the process and my life has been a lot of faith in me and a lot of faith that I

will figure things out which I try my best to do you will thank you thank [Applause] you that's a 244 you were good at this thank you I hope you enjoyed it it was amazing H the funny thing is our slogan is discovering the human behind the title so how you explain the show or the podcast is what we do you know what who man who you know we see the pictures we see the nice Tik toks about who he and if I can add there 10% I've done my job you know yeah my team

my team warned me to expect some um Waterworks a lot of people cry yeah and my team told me that you guys are the experts of making very strong men cry yeah I have no I I've always appreciated emotion not always I I'm lying uh with life I started to operate because we don't we not brought up to to cry but now I appreciate cuz it's raw it's very human you know when they show but not everybody should cry you know some some topics become and I can tell when you're emotional I can tell how

you move your body when you are but doesn't have to go anywhere you know yeah funny enough the thing that makes me cry always is when you see a strong man cry yeah like cuz I'm like I I know what it takes as a guy to get to that point where you're emotional like if when I see like a like a strong guy cry I'm like it me up and a lot of women will tell you they can't bear the image of a man in their life crying like your their dad or their brother it

would break woman because it's not a common thing you know he's really struggling you know I've had a guy here who said when his brother passed away he never saw his dad cry but he saw him walk away from the grave and far and he just knew he was standing and weeping but he just didn't want to do it in front of everybody you know it's tough sometimes to be a [Music] guy [Music]