Mom Finds Severed Head in Her Son's Room

oh my God I can't believe it it's not me in that car you know I can't believe it got it oh my God it's kind of a time to not really know what to do so happen random too why I don't get it don't have any how old is Brian 19 19 he's 19 what's going on man I am going to cooperate okay so parents have some concerns of some stuff they may have found in your room um yeah I believe so and what would it be a human head and hands like for real human

head in hands yes from that fellow who went missing recently which fellow was that Warren Brown Warren Brown when did he go missing the night of the 27th the night of the 27th okay and how did you end up with them I murdered him with what a knife why would you have done that I've always wondered what murder felt like 2021 Grand Junction Colorado it's the first day of March and Warren Barnes a 69-year-old man known to hang outside of Monique's bridal and formal wear on Main Street and downtown Grand Junction hasn't been seen since

Saturday February 27th if you've ever been downtown you guys would see him he walks in Street probably knows him if he's y he's always on Main Street just with his backpack just walking and coming down to the shop to sit in his chair pretty much how do you know Warren um I own Monique's Bridal downtown and I give him a chair to sit and read his books is homeless gentleman he's not homeless he stays in a place he pays for a room every day he he comes back in the shop cuz we keep his chair

inside the shop to deter other people from sitting in it behind my shop the woman speaking with police is Monique lenat her business has been main stay in downtown Grand Junction since 1995 Mo'Nique and her daughter spent time getting to know Warren over the four years he's been a fixture behind her shop he loves reading feeding birds and eating Subway sandwiches to Outsiders he may have appeared unhoused or out of work simply because he wore the same clothes every day but Warren is different he works for um a company that does just like temp agency

and they were the ones that actually contacted me because he's never missed work and they know that he sits behind my shops so every morning it's around 6 yeah without fail without fail seven days a week yes he is there every morning oh by himself yeah those who know him quickly take a shine to his kind and gentle soul and he's the nicest guy ever rough rough looking but he is the nicest guy and he buys palal Red 100s every every day and a donut Warren Barnes is quiet and never bothers anyone he passes the

time reading books so the locals dubbed him the reading man but I know he goes to the library a lot as well um because he like I said he reads books loves to read you said and Warren has a routine one you could swear by so when he didn't show up to work on Monday morning March first his employers at the temp agency were concerned what a raised concern with you today to report him missing because the place people ready called um to see if I had seen him because he didn't show for work and

he's never once not shown up for work in the four years he's been working for them so I said no and that I hadn't seen him since Saturday I don't I don't know I just have a really bad feeling cuz it's unlike him and that's the weird thing is I said I'll see you tomorrow he said I'll I'll be here I'll see you tomorrow and then I didn't even think about it when he wasn't there really does he ever have anybody didn't and read with him or next to him does he mentioned talking to anybody

no he's he doesn't associate with a lot of the like transits because he's not like them he's he's very intelligent like he I don't know why he's homeless I never really got into like why he chose you know I'm sure you asked him did did he ever talk about his family or where he came from um so he has I believe at least one child but they they they don't talk and he said that um they talk maybe once every three or four years on a holiday but he hasn't spoken to probably didn't go for

a visit no no he wouldn't have and if he was he would have told the people ready place he wasn't going to be there for work he was very all about having that so he could afford his place to stop with no family that she knows of to call upon Mo'Nique decides to start searching for him on her own she posts a picture of Warren on her Facebook page asking people to be on the lookout meanwhile 5 miles across Town something odd had been unfolding over the weekend in the Colorado River just off the Blue

Heron boat launch a car is partially submerged in the water the driver 19-year-old Brian kohe had accidentally driven his 2007 Ford 500 into the river and was in over his head literally so he called his parents Brian senior and Terry kohi to come to his Aid and they called the police for further assistance the tenor of the scene just off the Redlands Parkway is light-hearted everyone's laughing and joking around even though it's in the middle of the night and it's dark and freezing yeah we made him wait till he was almost 18 before he got

his driver's license because we didn't want him M any accidents like they do when they're 16 and 17 stupid things is your son right here yep yeah hey Parton you want to come on talk to me real quick sure I mean I'm really cold is it okay if it's in here that's fine I I did not know that no that's please please stay in the car all right nobody else in the car no no no just us I'm the father that's the mother this is my son he US 20 minutes ago and said dad I

parked at the boat ramp and I messed up I tried to get out of the car and slid down well you're not hurt right you're okay no just a little cold as all deide your pride a little bit and probably $7,000 okay all right man um do you have your ID with you driver's license by any chance I do thankfully what were you doing down here bud well I felt like I needed to get out like okay and I figured why not Park here and just just relax a little bit relax and think and I

parked on the boat ramp and I thought it would be easy to get out but when I tried to where did you park exactly were you down the hill a little bit yeah just a little bit and then when you got back in go ahead when I got back in I tried to put it in drive and it didn't go up so then I tried putting it in low gear shimmying it a bit that did work were you facing down I facing I was facing up you we you back down yeah a really good idea

that seem like the easiest one of the propulsion of the because of the propulsion of the rear tires I figured they'll be able to push okay but yeah then okay yeah then it slid into the river I was able to get out cu I was like uh it's not a crash he just dude it's parked out in the water he parked it and basically couldn't get it up it just lost traction looks like and then he he actually went in it just down in the water he's not hurt at all so I'm like how are

you going to get this car out if possible does he need to stay here is he free to go he would I'm sure he'd like to go home and get warm I'm sure you'd like to get some pants on yeah right yeah it's not a crash he it's okay Mist this is stupid all right I'm going to take him and then we'll come back here and see if we can figure out what son has no pants on after taking Brian home to put some pants on and warm up the cohes return to the scene at

the boat ramp around 3:00 a.m. and this this is when things take a turn the crew recovering Brian Jr sedan from the Colorado River has just spotted something troubling hey quick question for you sure so the back bumper I you can probably see it from here a lot of red on the back of that now dripping down it all a little bit but underneath the license plate little area right there okay okay a lot of red which means looks like blood blood yeah I don't know if did your son hurt himself on his way out

at all he might have but he just didn't know it I don't know that's a good that's what I'm asking that's a good question he's at home is he make sure he's not got a cutter just C he's going to bed something out on him somewhere that he's not aware of maybe cuz his adrenaline was a little high maybe you just have him to do like a self check make sure he's okay hello Brian are you okay they ke Blood on the back bumper of the vehicle really yeah did you get hurt no what are

you are you sure you don't have any injuries no I'm fine there's what on it we're not sure we're not sure it's a red red something red underneath the license plate similar blood stain oh no all right but you're not injured you don't have any cuts no I don't know what would cause blood or whatever it is on the bumper but you're not injured no I'm not injured okay all right I'll call you back it's cold is it good is my car good no Brian they're trying to get it out they got to rehook it

and try it say again they're having trouble getting your car out buddy all right we'll call you back call you back by I got to move my car um I got to move my car for the driver okay the car is finally removed from the Colorado River but but the blood is still peing the interest of everyone on the scene what' they say about us looking in the trunk they're good with it okay the officers are unable to get into the trunk Brian seemingly locked it before driving it into the water the car is released

back into the custody of the cohes the next morning Brian senior decides to clean his son's car after all it had been in the river for hours and badly needed it so I'm like okay let get this car start for Brian he's got to he's got to work so right away I popped the hood unhooked the battery cuz it was dead tried to charge the battery I started going through the car vacuuming out all the water right did as much as I could yest Saturday went back out there this morning just to continue and I

opened the glove box and there was a knife in the glove box underwater okay the glove box is full of water very large knife okay and then as I go around the passenger door I open the passenger door and there's a wallet in between this door and and the Gunn whatever okay and open up that's not Brian's wall it's froz and solid my God that's not Brian's wall between the blood on the bumper the knife and the stranger's wallet Brian senior had some questions for his son but first he makes a phone call to a

company whose business card was found in the wallet not his wallet so I take him inside and I ended getting one of the wads of cards out is a Labor Ready I read that so I called Labor Ready and then another one another one there was a social security card okay I was like hey this is a weird call but I've got a wild here with so and so's name and I'm I'm hoping he works for you all or he's an he sub him out or whatever oh yeah my one we've been missing him yes

he didn't show up today I'm like oh my God now we been a missing person okay well I found this wallet at Blue boot lamp so here's my name here's all my information if you get a I'm telling I got his wallet here at my house okay so I left that like that Brian senior's next phone call is to Brian Jr called Brian Brian what's going on why is there walk in the car oh I found it down the book when I was down there walking around okay and and he was so sincere I I

I I took it all I want to believe him cuz's my son sure you found him find how come and all this going going in the last two days how come you didn't tell us about the wallet dad I was just so excited with all the going on my car getting total cuz it's wet now I won't start I I didn't think about it I didn't think it was important to that I'm like Brian who is one who is this one Whatever guy dad I swear to you but by I only know one one he's

my school friend it's not him believe him unbeknownst to Brian senior his wife Terry who operates a child care facility out of the home is almost simultaneously making a chilling Discovery in her son's room and then I went started working on my house doing some drywall repairs just doing other things left the car alone but going let it dry out my wife called get over here right now drop everything leave right now this John address emergency hi there is an emergency I found found something in my son's closet wrapped in a plas do okay what

was it I think it's aood it's a what I think it's a human head why do you think it's that because it looks like it's it's all an ear is it all is it bloody or do it like anything like that can you just come do I have to take a picture and send it to you come he just on there now he just pulled up we wanted to make sure he was here before we called how old is he 19 he's had a little bit of a fascination with The Morbid but he was channeling

it I thought into becoming a crime scene investigator but not too much do you think he's going to be cooperative with us I don't know I don't think he'll be violent just came back from his friend's house does he have any weapons in his room or do you guys have any in the house I don't know I think that he has a shotgun but we canly it immediately before he gets in this room he h by the car now so is the bag still in the closet no it's in my kitchen sink and there's a

secondary bag that I have not opened officers from the Mesa County Sheriff's Office respond to the kohe residents on South Broadway at this point all the children and Terry koh's daycare have been picked up by their parents outside the home at the end of their gravel driveway Brian senior Terry Brian Jr and Brian Brother Andy await police okay so parents have some concerns of some stuff they may have found in your room um yeah I believe so and what would it be a human head and hands like for real human head in hands yes from

that fellow who went missing recently which fellow was that Warren Brown Warren Brown when did he go missing the night of the 27th the night of the 27th okay and how did you end up with him I murdered him with what a knife why would you have done that I've always wondered what murder felt like okay where did you do that at underneath the bridge which Bridge the one past okay near the weird intersection you have anything on you he's going to cut poke hurts stick me anything without reaching for nothing don't reach for nothing

my phone and my wallet that's it well I'm going to have you face that way put your hands on top of your head for me real quick I just want to make sure you interlace your fingers for me real quick all right go ahead okay how do you know this guy CU they told me that that was what was in the wallet that what do you mean that was no Brian how did you come across this how you come across the gentleman I was driving uhhuh and I saw a strange shape near the railway uh

so I so I parked my car and investigated it and I found it to be a man sleeping okay where's the knife at it is in my sunken car well it's in my car I have that previously sunk I have this is going to be an invest and I'll take it from there so did that happen when you crashed your car or that totally different that's that's related but a different event okay what what's how's it related well when I killed him I tried disposing of his body by putting in the river but I parked

too low in the river and where's the rest of his body at huh where's the rest of the body at what parts the body Brian where's his body down the river okay I'm going to have you walk over here you're going to sit in the back of my my partner's control uh patrol car for a minute okay not yet okay just sit back there and hang out for me okay 200 lb 6'1 Brian kohe is cooperative and polite if not a bit awkward the female officer from the Mesa County Sheriff's Office helps the 19-year-old into

her patrol car how are you I'm good sir how are you you said your name Brian yeah I'm not feeling too well you're not feeling too well all right no these past few days I've been very very anxious that's understandable so what we're going to have you do here is I'm just going to have you sit in the back here okay I'm going to turn on the air for you in a second thank that way you're not too hot are you a hot blooded or a cold blooded kind of guy I am very cold blooded

I prefer cold well no actually sorry Hot Blooded so you prefer the cold okay fantastic all right so hop in here I know you're tall so it's a little bit of a tight squeeze but like I said I'll get that air on for you sorry about that all right meanwhile the mail officer needs to go inside the house and see for himself if there actually is a human head in the sink like Terry kohi claimed in her 911 call can you walk me inside pleas walk off what happened beginning okay let me do it you

go inside well let's stay out here with me for a minute sit down come on sit down can can I go in there and verify here first yeah we haven't seen it yeah we hav't at it it's under the towel in sh with you mother give just make sure that guy goes in the car you go house is empty okay we had a bag you know about what happened this weekend and she said there's a bag in this closet and she opened it up and she called me and said get over here right now I

cover the to okay I didn't want him to see it we didn't want him to run I don't want to look at it yep 2242 you clear for a call got my water all right I'm giving you a call start yeah give let me get this figured out oh yeah you might want to call investigations so oh yeah he he already I asked him what was going on he said I killed a guy I stabbed him that's his head I dumped his body in the river so I guess this guy's name is like Warren brown

or something so I'm all right I'm going to uh secure the house and he said there should be hands and the head's in the sink the body is uh in the river so what's that yeah what's that oh does it sound by my voice that it looks real it is so okay after the officer confirms the head is indeed real Brian Senor then recounts the story of the last 24 hours again to law enforcement on scene he left Friday night late in the morning our phone rings at my house Dad this is Brian my son

Brian same name same birthday January my first Bor my car is stuck in the river wait wait wait what so we go there and he gives us a song and dance how it was a full moon he wanted to pull down to the water and next thing he know since a one whee drive he tried to put in reverse and the car started sliding and next thing know he ended up in the river so we call we get there to pick them up we call the police at 1 2:00 in the morning MH my son

put his car in the river so they called a toetar company to we called four toet company couldn't get the car out of the river where where's the Saw blood all over the where is the car so we told it to Scotty to have it see if they could fix it so I called Scot and said don't touch it I already called him and said don't touch it nothing was taken out of the vehicle yes I did what did you take out of the vehicle I cleaned it up bottles um everything incriminating incriminating you know

where that stuff is yes it's all it's all at the house it's okay in a bag no I just well I I didn't know this had happened first so I'm thinking I'm going to get Brian's car cleaned out we're going to get it all fixed up call Scotties are going to start it up right but then things started unfolding we saw Blood on the bumper we asked Brian Brian what's this from oh I think I cut my finger okay we what else is got I found a wallet so I'm going through the car this morning

and there's a wallet in the car and I'm like Brian who's wallet oh I found him at the boat ramp and where were you going through the car this morning because it was at my house we told it to my house oh so now it's at your house it's at my house it's not at Scotty's anymore no when I found that I couldn't start it I called the tow company and they told it the Scotties this morning oh so they just got it okay car was to there and I'm like well I started pulling out

bottles this and I'm like Brian why is there a knife in your glove box dad I don't feel safe so you touched the knife oh but the knife was under waterer his car was under water I pulled everything out of the car okay and all of that stuff is in your garage all the stuff's at my house yeah so I just as I was pulling it out I'm like what the officers update each other on the new information they've gathered while Terry cohi sobs in the background so he had the car at his house this

morning he took out knife bunch of stuff who who Brian Senor his house I have the address go ahead I I copy so I told him we'd hang tight until investigations came and then he can take them there where all the items are go ahead no we're fine we've got him sitting in a patrol car right now and it's just the family here so we're good I appreciate okay so where's everything he had the car at the house this morning he pulled the knife all sorts of stuff he said there was blood all over okayo

good car to car or stuck we'll also have a second address that'll have to either go through on consent or uh through a c War it's going to be dad's house you had the car over there and cleaned it out cleaned it out on but nowc to knowing what was going on Dad's Super Cooperative about taking us there and letting us look so I just told him we'd wait till investigations got here keep him here H ins they have another location I don't believe this is their house or maybe this is their second house yeah

I copi they're they're Cooperative out here here and our suspect is sitting in a patrol car while the cohes await instructions on what to do next they have some questions I know you guys have a lot going on right now it's a lot to process so we'll work with you every step of the way as much as we can yeah yeah how long till the news comany shows up um we're going to try to keep that a while so we're we're hoping we need to get clear some you so we can get out of Dodge

cuz I don't want we can't have news in front of I Ron the life jacket program here down okay biggest thing is is our investigation unit getting guys absolutely like I said even if new shows up we're not going to let them down here thank you okay just just focus on don't let them up there either they'll be able to see stuff from up there too well nobody else should know about this right now yeah okay good okay so and again be careful who you guys talk to who you tell anything anybody nobody know nobody

knows what you perfect same goes for you for you family and your name to meet you sorry we're meeting this way oh my God I can't believe it it's not me in that car you know I can't believe it oh my God it's kind of a time to not really know what to do so Random too why I don't get it don't have any answer how old is Brian 19 19 he's 19 Mom what's your what's your name my name is Terry Terry okay are you okay do you need any medical well we're waiting on

a call from my doctor okay okay all right so hang tight right here I got to chat with my partners again okay Brian when would you say this what night did this happen no no Friday Friday late Saturday morning this just this Saturday yes 1:00 in the morning just this Saturday at 1:00 in the morning for what the car crash yeah the whole incident it's now time to take the 19-year-old suspect to the station for questioning all right Brian his parents follow the patrol car to the Sheriff's Office where they will also be interviewed I've

got one mail on board we're going to R to the office on the drive over Brian Jr makes light conversation with the sheriff's deputy until he notices where they are what time is it it is 2:32 was under this bridge it was under this bridge yes okay like right there under the bridge or um this side of the bridge uh behind one of these okay stuck quick he said it was the bridge here right by the jail from what he's saying it sounds like overpass but we'll clarify a patrol car is sent to inspect the

area of the underpass that Brian stated was the crime scene there officers are quickly able to confirm he was telling the truth it's right here oh you see it yeah cuz there's an arm hey where the search ever there's an arm there's another arm okay hold on hold on do some pictures another one I don't have a clue okay um this is like something out of TV yeah having a discussion with the deputy chief about how people how these kids don't have any uh more right here's a leg could be the upper arm or a

leg well there's three there there and there is down there I mean a patrol guide to um yellow tape it and then hold it cuz the potential is that there's a second dairy by the boat launch yeah I would think so we can run out there and look at that and then uh if you guys we just ask for a I'm switching to primary hold on but if we can get the lab out here that would be the best thing yeah get forensics out here after the 8-minute drive to the Sheriff's Office is complete the

deputy escorts Brian Jr into the interrogation room that Cooper everybody's Cooperative including dad's Brian senior son is Brian junor they're ready for him okay cool um let me call parents let them know to park here and then we'll have someone meet them up front okay so what I want you guys to do is if you can p into the front of the Sheriff's Office and when you do that you're going to okay no problem okay so you're just going to pull up in front of the Sheriff's Office okay and just park up here at the

front and then we will have somebody most likely myself will come out here and I'll look for you and then soon as you guys pull up in are just parked I'll meet you and walk you back okay okay sounds good just hang tight in your car and then you'll see me come out and then we can meet then okay I'm going to walk him back okay thank you okay bran thank you problem sir just go walk with me we're going to walk right this way okay you're fine with me not being cuffs I'm fine with

you not being cuups okay thank you all right Brian finish door for me please oh let's pull it there you go s you're good you're good all right just face that glass right there for me okay just walk over from the brain all right slow it down you're a big guy slow it down you're okay so we're going to take it right here okay Keep On Walking yes walk through these guys here I should have a mask you're okay don't worry about it okay keep on walking yep all right we're going to take a left

keep going take another left hard left right here right here sorry you're all right so have a seat and we'll be with you in a moment okay thanks Bri the parents ared just a couple of minutes after their son just follow me all the way down we're going to have you guys have a seat in here and we'll be with in the interview room Terry kohi is understandably upset and anxious her eldest son has just admitted to murdering a stranger for the thrill of it the detective wants to know the question on everyone's mind at

this point what would drive this seemingly nonviolent teenager to murder tell me about Brian does he have any kind of mental um issues or disabilities that's why we were told he had ADHD so he put him on ADHD medicine but he didn't get it during the summer or weekends only when he okay um in middle school he started exhibiting antisocial Behavior okay um just saying things to get kids W up and thinking this okay and the doctor had said yes he's ADHD yes he's autistic yes he's this oh and there's some indications that that he

should get further testing because of potential psychosis and I asked about referrals and calls and nobody in town see okay the only place to go was Denver and I was like how am I supposed to just take them to den so we got him involved and she worked with them for about a year and then kid hit and so she couldn't do sessions anymore and they tried to do over the phone sessions but this just not very effective beneficial and it's just kind of like we just we like okay well he seems to be doing

good you know he graduated high school he works as and he's been working there for a year in August the detective wants to know more about the medications Brian is on and if he's actually taking them and he said he's not taking his Medic or is he on medications now he's on ADHD medicine okay that he takes before work okay on his part-time job okay and he takes um cine which is an anti-anxiety anti-depressive okay so he's been diagnosed that as well and to the best of your knowledge is he actually taking them like do

you watch him take them or I don't watch him take them but I have alarm set and every night at 10 p.m. I say right take your medicine and he says I know I am and as I looked at his fill container I mean it's going you know seems to be seems to be going down okay so I assume he was see okay what about alcohol or any other Recreation drugs nothing like that when you talked about the school stuff and having lots of issues what were the issues that they were having that made other

kiddos not feel safe he would make jokes that were not appropriate um he got suspended a few times like for behavior that wasn't acceptable like this one girl that he knows very well he knows that she has a lot of issues and that loud noises frighten her and so you know one of his school suspensions was when he you know came up to her in the hallway and clapped really loud next to her you know knowing that it would put her in a panic and she cried and they were like yep no you know that's

not how no you knew that would upset her and you did it anyway and he got suspended for um prohibited you a weapon but it was there was another boy who brought in numchucks to school okay on the school bus and Brian was like Wow cool you know and I think this would been 11th grade and so the Brian was Brian was like I think Brian had given out some candy to some kids on the bus and so Brian was like can I check that out he's like I'll bring you in said if could give

me some candy so Brian gave the kid candy and the next day the kid comes on the bus with two sets of numchucks one are glass and the other one I guess they're like rubber I don't know I don't I've never actually saw them okay um but so he's like I know I can't take the glass ones cuz I'd be in trouble for that so he took the rubber ones and he put them in his backpack in his backpack was I don't know if it was in his backpack or in his jacket there was some

differentiating stories okay but um so the teacher saw them and they said what's that Brian and he was like uh nothing you know and so Paar you know he was like you know we had a prohibited weapon on school grounds and I'm like okay what about the other kid that brought them in and they said that kid doesn't have the behavior issues that Brian has and I'm like oh so you're punishing Brian cuz he has behavior issues I see so Brian went through um probation and he completed it successfully the line of questioning pivots to

Brian's behaviors and interests how about stuff at home with you and your husband and your your other son um make any kind of violent Behavior or weird Behavior like stuff with Ran's textbook weird you know I mean he's always you know he's is either ADHD and we're struggling with social thinking and social behaviors and learning and you know he's it's always been a challenge with liyan um but not violent Behavior towards you your husband what about other kids in the neighborhood or on the bus he didn't really you know he had a couple of friends

that he's had since since elementary but you know he has the he had a morbid sense of humor and would make jokes and i' say Bri that is not funny he'd go yeah it is mom you just don't get my sense of humor you know um so but some of his behaviors that we attributed to autism like the flat face Maybe isn't attributable to autism obviously it's something else okay what about any um Fascinations or things that he fixates on a lot of P Separation on crime and crime scene and so he's talking about going

into the military in the fall and when he gets out having your job okay and so I had purchased online a crime scene investigation book for him you know it's like one think if you probably read it when you first started out in college and so I gave that to him and I was like so here Brian you know let's channel that Curiosity into something positive that you can affect a good change in the world and he's like yeah that's my plan mom but you know he's all he's I'm not going to say always had

a Fascination you know I'm going to say in the last few years okay and is it like shows that he watches or like tries to do things to to create a scene you know what I mean like um whether it's like animal stuff or nothing now he loves them dogs you know I mean he's very affectionate with our animals and you know he would watch you know like just just last week he watched silence and the Lambs but I was like well he's 19 you know probably I'll watch it I I've watched it it doesn't

make me a serial killer you know is there anything else um about Brian or the last couple weeks he's always you know he's sometimes he's affectionate you know and every night when I say I love you bugs and he says I love you too Mom you know and he gives me a hug and you know he's he's at work when he's supposed to be at work he's never with mean other than his behavior issues in high school and like there's never really been like anything legal that was right you know that was the problem that

I was like uhoh uhoh you know when they did his testing um and I forgive me because I'm not I don't know all of the exact language and stuff but like on the spectrum of his autism stuff did they kind of give you a range or did they think did they say we think maybe based on some behaviors he they said he was high functioning you know that he was he did the IQ tests well and blah blah blah um but they said but you know in in in going through this I think that it

would be beneficial if he received further testing and I said okay who do I go to and they gave me a couple names and I called them and they said no and then I said okay who else should I call and I called them and they said nope and I said who else should I call and I called them and they said nope and there was nobody else to call okay and this is she um she kind of doing some basic counseling type stuff or what she specifically with autistic children okay um and so we

were referred to her from okay um and you know like I said he was doing good going in to see her once a week and you know and because of everything going on in school you know we said you know we don't feel like he's a danger to other people or to us you know maybe himself you know something happened but you know and and I was like do do you think he's a danger to others and she goes well from the discussions we had I can't you know I can't really make that determination but

so how she he's he must have been going to her for quite a while then he was seen her for about a year he had been seing for a year and a half but he wasn't making any progress with things just kept getting worse and worse behaviors were worse like I said there's never any violent outbursts never you know just just a a fascination with some things that I thought we were channeling properly and you know his morbid sense of humor and that I was like well Stephen King's got a morbid sense you know and

he's a freaking Millionaire right books you know Brian senior is dumbfounded by the situation he's found found himself in our kidss are both doing good they're they're okay school they don't drink or smoke so I didn't really have any no warnings that this was going to happen but he quickly realizes that this is not an accurate picture of his son he's obviously sick he's obviously very sick because we've noticed weird things about him guys gets cold just just he looks at me and he has this cold look on his face and I can just tell

that I don't know if it's from his friends that he's hanging out with or what but tell me about some of the um I know you had some issues in school but tell me just tell me about Brian from his child growing up he was good growing up but I think they diagnosed him early in elementary school with ADHD because he would you know he had trouble meeting Friends trouble talking doing funny things so he was always kind of on his own it was a loner you know he had friends a certain amount of friends

but he wasn't like hey you know he just wasn't accepted very well okay in school he wasn't accepted I know that but he just he's got friends he hangs around with you know respectable friends and we just thought he but it just seems like he not friends that would ever not those kind of friends sure clean good friends okay you know the the worst they have is they play video games they drink too much Pepsi that's my only complaint when all his friends come over they stay up too late okay none of them are I

just I don't know what happened I don't know why what what made him though you know I'll never know that question I don't how many times you want to ask me I don't know why who when where I don't know any I'm just as in the dark about this as you still Brian senior maintains there was not a single sign that anything like this would ever happen never been physical at all with any family members Mom Dad Brian dogs never any any not a cool B in his body okay never ever nothing okay as far

as his friends know he's never been in a fight in his life okay he's never hit anybody he's just like his dad I mean I've never been in a fight man I I thought just like going to be a spin-off of me cuz he's nonviolent but he's not I don't know what's going on now everything's different by the end of his time in the interview room Brian senior laments the loss of his family's reputation in the community this is too much for me I had the same name as my son and now this is happen

I need to like move to m or something cuz this I can't this is this is going to kill my family how do I know this guy's found is not going to come after us well I mean there's lots and lots of I I I don't know where how this is going to unravel sure for the sins of my son I don't know how we're what's going to happen tomorrow right and my wife is just a mess so I mean just take it one day at a time that's all you can do anyway um and

and I know there's lots and lots of unknowns and lot lot of stuff we don't know it's going to take us days and weeks to sort things out so try not to panic in the meantime and think too far ahead we just think about no you you guys are in charge right now Terry and I have decided we can't do anything until we're out of this until you guys say okay you were released you know right now we can't do anything well we can't go anywhere we can't I'm not working anymore she can't have any

more kids anymore it's all everything's over it's all done now it's over our lives are totally over she runs a license in home daycare she can't have a license anymore I don't think that's true okay well her parents when they when this get the news all the kids are going to be pulled out maybe so yeah everything's going to go belly up here so if things are going to change I don't know how it's going to change but I got a feel in Grand Junction is no longer going to be our hometown cuz my name's

been trashed in another room at the Mesa County Sheriff's Office Brian kohi Jr now under arrest and charged on suspicion of first-degree murder is waved his Miranda rites and is ready to talk with investigators they waste no time getting straight to the point and how did you get here I murdered someone okay but how did you get to my office well uh the police drove me here from my mom's house okay you said you murdered someone I did did you know the person no no no I was driving one night I was in a shall

we say bad State of Mind okay I saw a strange Sheep by the railway tracks so I investigated and it revealed be a homeless person sleeping I presumed homeless because he was there okay so I stabbed him to death okay then decapitated his head and hands and arms okay I then took the head and put it in my car trunk along with the hands in bags plastic Ziplock bags took it back to my house cleaned off the knife tried to hide the head and hands removed the trash in my car that was stained in blood

uh and then I went and then I tried sleeping however I was quite stupid shall I say because uh I decided that's too much evidence the body needs to be dumped in the river so I took the body in the trunk drove it to the blue ha and drop off point and d and unsuccessfully dumped the body as I Park too low down the ramp the ramp is mud and dirt so unless you have four-wheel drive you're not getting out and I was UN to get out and my car FL itday it was that was

let's see I killed him just after 11 February 27th 2021 and then I dump the back I tried to Dum the body uh sorry I'm trying to remember the time exactly it was 1:00 a.m. okay and yeah so that sounds fascinating what do you want to know just start back at the beginning and go slow and tell me as many details as you can remember so cuz I mean Mar going to jail for this 15 years probably I have no idea because we're at the beginning it's it's murder I mean I'm going to jail for

okay 20 probably but um so I figure I fight it okay um so what's important to me is to learn as much about you and what you did and as I can well how many details you can give me the better I drive a 20074 500 okay and I keep a small 18in bat in there for self-defense and a large kitchen knife in the glove box both for self-defense because uh I had really trust anyone or really any part of this town so that's why I have both and um let's see yeah it was the

night of February 27th it was a full moon and I figured I can see so well why not drive out and uh I am in a bad State of Mind at that time I am I have major depressive disorder so I am not thinking shall say positively okay and I'm cruising around for an hour an hour and a half um I fill up on gas halfway through and I'm eventually driving underneath the bridge near the Sheriff's Office you know like how can I oh yeah go ahead there's a road underneath right uhhuh s under the

overath and I was D driving along and I see a shape here on the railway track so I'm like oh interesting so I go up and as I'm looking I see a large thing wrapped in a canvas okay and I'm like that's a homeless person so I grabed my knife I put on three layers of gloves because plastic gloves can betray their users because they're so thin those vinyl gloves by imprinting your fingerprints through so I put on two three on one hand I took the knife I pulled back the canvas and I stabbed his

neck he was panicking at first in his old man voice he was in his 50s I'm not Li I know why I call an old man he was saying what are you doing what are you doing why and I just kept on stabbing his neck I was this is okay if I do a demonstration yeah this is him I was straing on top of him like this okay and uh he couldn't fight back it was actually surprisingly easy I was barely breaking the sweat I thought oh my Gody he's going to be tough but no

it was actually surprisingly easy and during the time I was growling and making animalistic noises what why were you doing that I suppose it was a frenzy okay I was so excited so rushed up on adrenaline and day it's just and um I paused and he said why are you doing this and I and I said I've been wanting to do this for a long time part or someone and then I continued the whole Ral last about a minute minute and a half okay and I stabbed when I was finished stabbing him he took out

his last breath a grunt and his head was halfway cut off instead [Music] I all the while no actually after I killed him I just couldn't stop saying stinky dirty dirty stinky stinky wasn't I wasn't smelling anything but and why were you saying that I don't know okay and um but you remember doing it so yeah I suppose it was just me speaking out my mind at that moment it was a pouring out of the Mind what are you worried about I mean this looks like it's pretty close to the road and stuff somebody seeing

you or catching you well it was 11:00 p.m. so not many were driving by a well it was behind the pillar so like here's the road uh it was here so people would only see a brief thing here and here so were you worried about them seeing you I was worried about one of them stopping what you think it happen if somebody if they looked well it was quite dark under there so they wouldn't have seen the guy unless they looked um they would have seen me holding a bloody 12in knife wearing gloves and wearing

a mask to consal my identity a face mask okay so you weren't doing it for Co you were doing it to hide your face um partially social distancing all right um and uh yeah but no one stopped and I'm just like H Pro's a bystander nonchalantly The Killer goes into chilling and graphic detail about what he did to Warren Barn's body will'll spare you the gruesome details he then tells the investigators what he did with the various body parts once he was home with them and then I left his body there and then I took

the head put it in a leftover pizza box from the dinner a few nights to the hill and then I took the hands put them in the back drove home hid the hands and head in my room cleaned the knife threw away the garbage with with the blood on it and then put the Blood Stained wasn't stained it had the splatters on it I put it in the dish in the um the washing machine what what did you put in there I put the outfit I murdered him in in was yeah at Iowa was wearing

okay in our in our washing machine put it on high speed so it would effectively remove the BL wash it twice and then I tried going to sleep but I was worried that because there was a hole in my gloves right here I was worried that they would be able to obtain a partial print mhm so I figured why not go all the way I drove back in a different outfit picked up his body surprisingly heavy um put it in my trunk and drove to the blue her and drop off station okay I parked so

it's like this right so let's say this is ground the ramp is quite Steep and you need to have four-wheel drive to uh pull out of it okay and uh my car didn't I thought so I pull in I thought that I could um drive out because I put it I put it in reverse a so that it's easier to pull the body out and B because the back tires will revive propulsion to push up right and I open the trunk I take his body out I put it in the water and because I don't

want fingerprints on a body so I just try moving it with my shoes um that works success so he goes out some part in the river and floats off okay God knows where he is now investigators are still curious to get to the bottom of Brian cohes State of Mind at the time he committed the murder and you you talked about you were just kind of in a bad space that night it was yes okay why were you in a bad space I didn't take my medicine um and plus for years I was wondering what

murder would feel like because like T Bundy and the Zodiac they all say murder is the best human in the world so I'm like I'm going to try that okay so for some time I had been wondering when it would happen I always knew I would be in this building whether it was as a criminal or a police officer okay cuz I was planning to go in the military go in the FR all right and uh how long do you really you know honestly think you've been thinking about really at some point you wanted to

know what murder felt like I year okay all right and you said you read books I read books I have a book on forensics okay did you read the book The Ted Bundy book no I have not read Ted Bundy book I just I probably have seen exerts have you seen like you know little comments from it or things like that um I'm not sure what book you're talking about the one you mentioned the the whole stuff about Ted buy a lot has been written no it was on the internet yeah okay all right all

right and and Pete has studied him too you know so a crazy you seem more like Ed you know who Ed Ed game no Ed in California Big Ed Ed keer yeah so him you remind me of EDG ke I know of him he was he was a he was a goath he was 69 300 lb so can I ask your question almost all those people did this for some sort of whether they had sex with the body or was some sexual gratification in their mind Criminal there's different types of I'm not a serial killer

by no means um but with serial killers there's different types of them there's organized disorganized Visionary missionary I'm just wondering what what get you excited about doing it well I'm not really sexually attracted to it all I was just asking it was um it was just curiosity more or less and you said you study criminology and forensics and all that I not not College study or School study it's like a ping inurance I understand but what were you worried about like leaving evidence behind or being caught totally so tell me about that and what you

did then well I was figuring the police don't this is not to be taking offense but police they don't seem to care as much about high-risk individuals homeless people prostitutes Etc so I was delivered was looking for someone who lived that type of life okay and I found a homeless person and the original goal was just leave him there but I was worried about the fibers on the outfit I was wearing that would be on his his uh clothes and stuff so I deliberately messed up the clothes okay not cutting them up just throwing them

around and I was worried about just um how long it would take to find him because it's a somewhat traveled Road eventually someone with the windows SC down is going to smell something off at least have a nose for that type of thing they're trained to be able to identify the smell of a corpse um so that's where the river idea came from because a river will wash away a lot of them evence rivers are quite tricky and um obviously that was boted so how long have you been planning or looking for someone to do

this with before you found this guy about a year about a year no 6 months so have you come close or seen somebody or chickened out or anything in the past no I mean I was looking for a deliberately secluded place that one I wouldn't just go up in Clifton and find someone walking down the street and stab them no that's that's too public everyone sees that well have you looked like at the homeless places or anything in the past I have yes I've been it was I'll go on night drives often maybe once every

two weeks and I'll just peruse the streets okay so before this guy how close had you come in the past not at all I don't know you just drive around yeah look just try and find something anybody interesting and no in your mind thought of a plan well occasionally when you see girls walking down the street uh I take a glance at them cuz um it really is like a temper where half of me says well I'm quite a with women I'm being honest I'm no Casanova but after me says I want to take that

girl home and make her feel nice and and the other half of me it's just like what Ed said is I want to see what her head looks like on a stick so occasionally when I'm driving down the road if I see someone that catches my eye I'll just like were you worried about getting caught while you were doing it or before you did it I was worried about afterwards for this past day and a half including this day I felt so anxious because not only is my car in the river there's blood on there's

body parts in my house my parents like to look through my things occasionally And when they see blood and eventually when they're going to get the news that a body was found in the river that's very much Circ circumstantial evidence that's pointing to me so I was very much anxious these past days that I was eventually going to get caught okay what did you think it happen if you got C well I figured my mother would have confronted me about it but no she was she didn't even say it until the police arrived um I

thought the police would uh handcuff me but apparently I've been cooperational Soh detectives line of questioning moves on to the big question why now so what in your life has changed or what in your mind has changed to make I don't know was it like something all of a sudden one day you woke up thought off someone or was it a gradual it was gradual I think call me weird but I think everyone has had thoughts of shooting up at school I didn't though um um and then because of that um I suppose I just

don't really like people at all um I don't know yeah so B are shooting to school to today what um what has happened well last year my parents found a kit I had been assembling it had hammers shovels knives um large zip ties duct tape okay uh saw that was meant for hurting people um they found it though and they were ready to call the police until I had convinced them it was VI other methods for other method for other things like um and it was an ultimatum where if I didn't throw it away all

that um they would call the police then I would have been arrested on charges of conspiracy and what if he hadn't been caught would Brian kohe have killed again if you had not been caught by your folks what do you think you would have done that with the kid I don't know no no let's let's talk about like today if if you had have been able to get rid of the head and your your folks did not find it well it depends okay would you guys have been able to uh solve it if the body

was down the river the head and hands were missing and there were no fingerprints in q& well we like to think so but who knows who knows we like yeah we'd love to think so so let's say we didn't solve it what happens next then what would you have thought of to do next well I had thought I would have been very careful because I would have been worried at any moment this could become a cold case and then it could be solved later on down the line so I probably wouldn't have done it again

um because that was just to see what it felt like and if I had gotten away with it I would have just kept the secret to be grave Brian Coes trial where he pleaded Not Guilty by reason of insanity lasted for 12 days throughout proceedings koh's attorney argued that his mental illnesses prevented him from knowing right from wrong but the jury didn't buy it they deliberated for two days before finding him guilty of first-degree murder judge Richard Gurley said that in his 37 years in the court system and 16 years as a judge this was

one of the most horrific cases he's ever seen kohi was sentenced to life in prison plus 13 1/2 years with no chance of parole a far cry from the 15 years he believed he would receive when he was first interrogated he is currently serving out his sentence at the bua Vista Correctional Complex in chaffy County Colorado where he will stay for the remainder of his Natural Life Brian kohi thought that he could get away with murder by taking the life of someone he believed wouldn't be worthy of an investigation he couldn't have been more wrong

Warren Barnes was not only a beloved man in the downtown Grand Junction Community but most importantly he was a human being who deserved to be treated with the dignity and respect that he offered others according to the Colorado son Barnes was a lifelong resident of the Grand Valley and told people that he spent time as a cowboy in the Bookcliff mountains north of Grand Junction he had a wife a daughter and a granddaughter a sculpture by iron worker Tim naven of a tree chair and stack of books commissioned by one of the many people whose

path intertwined with Barnes sits in the breeze way outside of Monique's Bridal shop where he used to pass the time his Mantra and you also is inscribed on one of the books the memory of the reading man lives on in downtown Grand Junction despite a monster's attempt otherwise