Husband Discovers His Wife Is A Mass Killer

Lori valot deel is a former Beauty contestant she's lost her mind she thinks she's a resurrected being and a a god anybody you spoke to who knew Lori back then said that she was like the mother of the year so what makes her a danger to herself and to others threatened me murder me kill me we're gathering together as Saints as brothers and sisters and preparing for the second coming of Christ she thre to murder you yes 6 months later Val was shot and killed police say they found a man with gunshot wound who was

later pronounced dead the first death that kicked off this multi-state mystery inside is Lorie Val's husband dead on the living room floor what happened today how did it get to this he said you're not Charles I don't know who you are what you did with Charles but I can murder you now with my Powers so how does she pose a threat to your children Loren where are your kids no comment they've been missing for 4 months you have nothing to say now Lori debel appears to be somebody else she has two missing children JJ valow

Ty Ryan I don't know what she's going to do with them I don't know she's going to flee with them she's going to hurt him all right this house are the one with the flashing lights right there cars are all on I don't know where mys are well it in oh my God it all started on January 31st 2019 when Charles Val was still alive and had just returned from a business trip to find he was locked out of his own house with no sign of his wife Lori or his kids JJ and Tye his

car had also gone missing and a large sum of cash had been withdrawn from his bank account so in an effort to get some answers he called 911 so what's going on tonight I can't get touched with our kids how old are your kids 6 and a half and 16 she's lost her mind how do the house to say it she thinks she's a resurrected being and a a God and remember the 144,000 She's Come Jesus is coming next year so what makes her a danger to herself and to others she threatened me murder me

kill me she threatened to murder you yes she said you're not Charles I don't know who you are what you did with Charles but I can murder you now with my Powers is just all recent or has it been going on been going on about four or five years it's gotten really really bad lately she goes at the temple every day and speaks with marona and Jesus Christ last couple days says I'm not Charles you're not Charles you're Nick Schneider according to Lori Nick Schneider is an evil spirit who has possessed Charles body and he

believed these threats against his life were very real in the last few years she had become obsessed with the teachings of a man named Chad deal a man well known for writing dogmatically and teaching his thoughts about the end of days the second coming of Christ and other more unique Concepts like evil spirits and zombies both Chad and Lori were also members of preparing a people a cult who were preparing for the second coming of Jesus Christ and the end of the world as we know it Lori also believed she was a member of the

144,000 a group of high priests who will administer the Everlasting gospel to the world in its last days she also believed that every human was on a scale between light and dark and the darker one's Spirit was the more dangerous they were to her and her beliefs Lori had actually become so involved in this new religious belief that Charles had become concerned not only for himself but his two children as well she said to me Charles stuff is gone you're not Charles your stuff is gone I don't know what that means and how long have

you been trying to get in touch with the kids yesterday so how does she pose a threat to your children I don't know what she's going to do with them I don't know she's going to flee with them she's going to hurt him today she said come take the kids I don't care what happens to them I just want to see my boys okay and she's got a pickup order a pickup order can be obtained after one parent fails to deliver a child to another parent as Charles has not heard from his kids in days

he felt he had no choice but to take action the cops then helped Charles get back in the house but it was too late as Lori and the kids were gone the very next morning Charles called 911 again this time directing them to a hotel in Gilbert Arizona where he believed Lori was hiding out with JJ and Tye this time though Charles had managed to obtain an emergency mental health petition a note that would require Lori to check into a Mental Health institution and undergo assessment what's going on why is she here and you're not

here or you staying here with her long story she's had kind of a bre I've TR to support as much as I could but it's gotten really really bad like she's had a break she says I'm Nick Schneider have taking over Charles's body and Charles have been killed I'm going to kill you you're going murdered today or tomorrow Charles had already tried to find Lori earlier that morning by turning up at JJ's school but despite seeing her car in the parking lot there was no sign of her at all however she had left her purse

in the car so Charles took it in hopes that it would stop her from getting away this worked perfectly as she walked into the Gilbert Police Station later this same morning to report her missing purse but her her version of events was much different so this morning when I took my son to school which he was waiting somewhere and like stole my purse out of the car my whole purse so my phone my wallet my money my everything with in there what what is it like that motivates him doing this kind of stuff is it

does he say one I caught him cheating and I had evidence and I told him about it and he travels a lot for business so I told him about it and told him not to come home and that his stuff would be gone and that his car would be gone and all those things so he's a little mad she claimed that she'd caught Charles having an affair and told him not to come home locking him out of the house and taking his car the first of many carefully fabricated lies that would not only ruin Charles's

life but end it police informed Charles that he can't steal Lor's property no matter what the motive a deal was then formed between them saying that if Charles returned her purse then the police would immediately follow up with the mental health petition but eventually it went through and Lor underwent her assessment however in 2 hours Lori was released with the doctors finding no issues at all this decision sentenced Charles to death and put his kids' lives in Jeopardy Charles filed for divorce and 6 months later his body was found at Lor's house with two gunshot

wounds across his body the fate of his children was now in the hands of their delusional and dangerous mother 18y team we got one subject down a parent gunshot one in the chest he's right here in the living room uh firearm is going to be in the front door in the front bedroom laying on the ground next to a case you want to stand in here I'll see if I get this guy's info when Charles's body was found an investigation determines the shooter to be Alex Cox a man who just so happened to be the

brother of Lorie Val what's going on what happened he came at me with a bat was he living here or visiting he came to pick up the son okay is his son inside no my sister took him to school okay so it was just you at the house yes and he he came how long what time did he come to pick up pick up the sun uh I don't know 20 minutes ago maybe okay so you know who he is let him in yeah yeah okay no I think they were talking earlier than she left

and then he got into it with me like what what do you mean I don't know he was Alex seems very vague in his answers and says he can't remember exactly what happened other than the pair simply got into a fight but those kinds of answers aren't going to satisfy the cops especially when there's a dead man involved so you both so you get an argument what is it over I was over my sister he was he was uh getting physical with her and so my niece came out with her bat and then he took

the bat away from her wait minut I thought you said your niece left she did before so before before your UH your sister and your niece left yeah at some point your sister and her husband are arguing yes verbal argument and then your niece pulls out a bat well it wasn't he was getting close and she came out to defend my sister with her bat your niece yes okay and then she poked at him and then he took it away okay and then he's he's coming back at me and he still out the bat his

like what are you doing and where are you at where are you both in living room okay and then I turned around and he hit me in the back of the head with a B I went to my room and got my gun I always carry it you went to your room meaning the room you're staying in okay and you brought your brought a gun with you you always bring a gun okay why didn't you stay just in your bedroom close the door is that something you didn't think about or didn't evenur to me this

final statement should actually have torn down Alex's entire argument as it technically proves this wasn't self-defense at all when Alex went to his room to grab his gun he should have been able to Usher his family inside close the door and stand his ground from there instead he grabbed his gun and without a second thought ran straight up to Charles and shot him but at this point there were still so many looming questions the cops decided to bring in all parties back for an interrogation to try and get to the bottom of it all and

figure out exactly what happened to Charles start where you think it makes the most sense okay so so we moved into this house 3 weeks ago because he offered to get me a house here where all my family is we were in Houston we had decided to separate or whatever so he's like I'll pay for a house for you and for JJ and whatever because he's all about JJ he's never about TY but he's all about JJ because we adopted him together he say great me a few we adopted him as a baby he came

when we first moved in and brought me stuff from Houston like a U-Haul and then he hasn't been back but it's all these threats on my phone all the time you know like whatever all these things and then he told me what kinds just he's always mad at me right and he doesn't want to divorce but I don't like him and don't want to deal with him so that's just how it is so we married for 14 years we dealt with it for 14 years of him being horrible to her like gets in huge fights

with her he yeah a lot of things but anyway immediately Lori describes Charles as a man with violent tendencies who had a history of aggression against the women he had married if she can convince detectives that Charles had a temper it would make their version of events even more plausible so he went back to the Houston house and he's like I'm coming on Wednesday night and I'm going to come pick up JJ and take him to school Thursday pick him up Thursday take him Friday whatever and I said casy wanted to come to the house

and I said you can't come stay at this house because you can't get along with Ty she's a minor she has to live here yeah so you kiss he gets in huge fights with her okay and she hates it and so like you can't stay at the house so I will book you a hotel because he stays in hotels all the time because he travels for business and the business pays for it what does he do he works with teachers and their retirement plans but he goes to them but their he mostly Works in California

he has like books of business in different areas and so he just goes wherever it kind of just gives him Freedom that he doesn't have to stay home every day and take care of social F an excuse right he came over in the morning and he's like bang on the door like oh great here go you know and then did was like oh Dad and then he was like Mommy and ran to me like holding me he's like you're not taking me to school and I was like it's okay dadd can just drive you to

school it's not a big deal you know just trying to make it whatever yeah calm and then um he was just being real smirky and real like jerk you know to me and I was like ignoring him whatever and so he was like your brother lives there with you no he had stayed with me last night because I was worried he was going to come over and cause trouble with me just wanted someone else there like my brother there CU I trust my brother they would claim self-defense as the reason Charles was killed and as

the cops continue to question Lori they start to believe this even more he goes he goes nuts he's gone nuts on us a lot of times tyler I have had to with JJ over the years probably five times and just stay in a hotel for two days because you don't know what's going to set him off like she's mad at me for always like going back but we had JJ and his special needs and it's really hard like it's even hard to take care by yourself so you thought and not I don't want to put

words in your mouth but um you thought it was possible that he was going to hurt you absolutely he was going to hurt me and tily okay not JJ he would never heard JJ okay and he hurt my brother like he he was going like ballistic about it was that okay an angry husband losing his temper during a divorce is not uncommon and feuding couples often come to blows making her story more and more convincing but according to Charles's ex-wife Cheryl this was not the man she knew she says they were married and divorced and

not one time not one second was he ever physically threatening to me directly contradicting what Lori is saying you say he goes nuts that means that can mean a lot of different things so physical violence he's never really besid like grabbing us and pushing us but not like punching us or something but with Ty he has gotten physical okay went like he was going to hit her but then I got him between them so this morning he comes back in and he comes back in I went give him this phone he was screaming at me

to give him this phone he was very worried about whatever was on his text that he did not want me to see and so I was just holding it there and he was screaming leaning on me and so Ty came out of her room upset and she had a bat and she told him to leave her mother alone like right so she was really whatever and he's screaming at her don't you TI me with that bad blah blah blah and then my brother heard all the commotion cuz he was in there in bed and so

he came out into the main room and um he's yelling at T don't you start me with that bad and blah blah blah and so Ty I guess I don't know if she swung at him or what but he like grabbed a bat from Ty and then went to like hit Ty with the bat it was and I was right there they were right there and my brother grabbed him from behind like just to stop him from hitting tyly they got into the thing he's hitting him with the bat and they're on the ground like

grappling around or whatever and then um and he hit your brother with the bat while they were grappling and stuff yes but there are lingering questions left by the investigation one such example being that the autopsy ruled one of the gunshots impacted while Charles was on the ground imagine being in a situation where you have no choice but to shoot someone you'd probably freeze up and you do anything you could to avoid anything but incapacitating them instead of finishing the job so it seems strange that Alex decided to shoot Charles a second time when he

was already flat on the ground furthermore it also seems strange that it would take almost 45 minutes for anyone to call 911 although she claims it was down to shock the this is conveniently just enough time to concoct an alternative version of events and a solid story to give to the police okay so you you hear the argument you step out what's the first thing that you see Charles choosing out the okay had had Tyler already gotten the the bat did he already have the bat okay so Charles is coming towards Lori coming com toward

Lor and I shoved him back okay I said what are you doing cuz he's coming at her aggressively he's a big dude so wasn't going on so he's coming at her yeah um and you you shoved him back what happened right after that so I went into the bedroom where I was saying Grand my down I came back I said put that bat down he's like what are you going to do so you going to threaten me I was said no I'm just going to defend myself so you put that b down he go you

going went like that and he came at me okay and he already hit me in the head so you gave him you how many times would you say you told him to like put them back down once once okay and then he started advancing towards you yes um how much shots did you fire uh I with the couple one of Lor's friends later reported that Lori had said Alex believed her theories about Charles being possessed by evil and the reason he was at the house at the time of death is simple he believed Charles was

going to try and kill Lori and moved in with her to help keep her safe I didn't see the shot at Hur and then I came back around and I saw that he was on the ground okay and was freaking out and so I was just freaking out I just went into mama and like I've got to go to get JJ schol got to get to the kids I just like I got to get to the kids and so I just went outside and to see if they were in there okay I didn't want them

coming back in the house when all that was going on and and Ty was like looking at me with like the crazy eyes like what just happened and I told her to get in the car and we're going to take to you to school and I just left when you came back in and you saw him on the ground where was your brother did you see him where he was at yeah he was right in front of him did your brother say anything to you at all do you remember no we were both just in

shock like it was just a I mean I didn't say anything I went out with the kids just to check on them first and I was going to come back in maybe but I didn't I was like I just have to get him to school and call the police come you know did you you or your brother say anything at some point about calling the police or calling 911 do you remember yeah he called me okay and he said are you taking G to school and I said yeah we need to call the police and

he said okay okay so you he called you when you didn't come back inside basically right cuz I was like in the car for a minute and then I was like what do I do it looks on the surface that an enraged Charles stormed the house and started shouting at Lori Alex decided to intervene fearing for his sister's life but what started as a disagreement quickly turned into a fight one that would end with Charles lying cold on the ground and Tye seems to back up what Lori and Alex said when she tells her version

of events I opened the door and it was my stepdad and he was just screaming at both of them like and so I just kind of stuck the Vel out there and then he like he just grabbed it and so I fell to the ground and then my uncle kind of like I saw him take a step back so my uncle I think grabbed him and kind of took him back so he couldn't like do anything and so my mom said to go with JJ and so I ran out the door and then I kind

of just stood there and then eventually my mom came out and then I heard a noise M which I know what it was now but it sounded like someone like took it and hit it really hard against the floor okay so I just wanted to make sure that like my stepdad didn't do anything to my uncle and stuff and so she was like no like I was fine like we're just going to take D to school and I was like okay despite Charles's lack of a violent history and how many times Alex nearly slipped up

on scene Lor's story coupled with Ty Lee's perspective was enough for detectives to officially rule this as self-defense but the death of Charles valow was just the tip of the iceberg and investigators quickly discovered that Lori had become entangled in the world of a seedy cult that would turn this seemingly perfect mom into a stone cold killer Lor Nate Eaton with East Idaho news can you tell me where your kids are where are your kids no comment no comment they've been missing for 4 months you have nothing to say listen just tell people what's happening

there's people around the country praying for your children praying for you guys why don't you give us answers that's great just days after Charles's death Lori decided it was time for a change and moved the entire family across the country to Rexburg Idaho a strange choice at first until you realized that this was the hometown of Chad debel and Lori was now living minutes away from a man who had not only convinced her that her husband was evil but was now beginning to spin the same evil stories for her kids as well but this is

when detectives met Melanie Lor's best friend and another member of her cult she was there to spill all the sort of details on their ideology and the beliefs that could soon lead to the death of Lor's Kids Janet said that it's some childhood friend that Charles had and that he died and then he came back as an he didn't never leave he was an uncan spirit that got trapped on the earth and he was now attached to him for years and he'd been studying him right and said behaviors and stuff like that and so then

he pushed his Spirit out of body and took over that's what he said push Char Spirit yeah so his Spirit now moved on so she believed that that he was that Charles was gone he was already gone so she was treating him like he was an next fighter this is all extremely confusing but simultaneously eye openening as it gives us a direct window into what Lori believed about her own family apparently she thought Charles was possessed by a dark spirit and by that point he was already gone the problem is she thought the same for

her children Charles had corrupted them and they'd turn into zombies so you mentioned zombies yeah um was that ever a term that you were exposed to by them M okay tell me more about the zombie she said she had a dream once an earthquake happened in Utah people that fell on the earth if they were able to get rid of all the zombies in the world then those zombies wouldn't get into those dead bodies and come back I remember one time she took the map and she's like okay here's the United States we're going to

do prayer let's find out how many zombies are in Arizona okay there's 20,000 I don't even remember the numbers I saw there and then she'd say a little prayer whatever words she' come up with that she thought were powerful and then he would check oh sobody died look you can help find out so then that was her way in my opinion you know what I saw at least was just through a prayer that these people would pass away Lori believes that if the Earth was to truly be pure all the zombies had to be killed

Chad also began to feed Lori more and more more Fantastical lies about how the world worked including Ascension translation and the ability to meet with God himself and then they had a skill of 0 to 100% how much you could trust people I was supposed to be like 97% they were always building me up anyway she would sometimes share like oh this person or that person it's not trans this person that was their BL what maybe you know or don't know uh vibrations so vibrations yes I'm aware of that too so according to how he

would check he used that little pendulum thing a lot I didn't know that in the beginning but anyway 1,000 was supposed to mean if you got to 1,000 that means you're translated or you're beginning your translation and then as you get higher in your your vibration you could portal at some point maybe remember what she would say 2500 maybe or something like that and so the more you went the temple your vibration would increase so it's like it's just like your light would increase your vibration that kind of idea if that makes sense Lori had

become convinced she could speak to Jesus and appeared to be consumed by Chad's work not long after their relationship began to heat up and they even started a religious podcast together that showed frankly just how insane she had become I too have seen the resurrected Jesus Christ and he has told me my mission and he has sent me to help people and lift them in their missions over time Lori had become more outspoken with her beliefs of zombies and began to tell her friends about how many people had been consumed by evil spirits and demons

Lori then started telling her friends that her son JJ's Behavior had changed and that he had started telling her he loved Satan as well as becoming more disruptive in the home had police listened to Charles Val when he feared for JJ and tye's lives then they could have prevented the series of tragic events that followed only days after moving to Rexburg Lori Alex JJ and Tye visited Yellowstone Park this was the last time anyone saw Tye alive things became even stranger on September 17th 2019 when JJ was spotted running into his Idaho home on a

neighbor's door cam never to be seen again months later people started to realize that they hadn't heard from JJ in a long time and Charles parents called 911 to alert the Police of his disappearance Lori was caught lying to officers on November 26th after they had made a welfare check on JJ according to Lori her son was with her friend Melanie back in Arizona but Melanie not only denied having him but she also told police Lori had asked her to lie and pretend to officers JJ was staying with her then in December Alex died suddenly

his death was ruled as natural causes but the amount of death and strange occurrences involving Lori was reaching impossible levels of coincidence by this time police were also extremely concerned for the welfare of JJ and Tye so Lori was served an order in January 2020 for forcing her to prove that they are safe and well however the deadline came and went and Lori was arrested 3 weeks later and placed on a bail of $5 million but even after the arrest both Lori and Chad remained silent and refused to give up any information on the kids

but finally a further 5 months later the police would get their answers when detectives initiated a search of Chad Dell's property there they found the bodies of JJ and Tye JJ's body was found wrapped in Duck tape and placed in a plastic bag while Tye had been dismembered and burned in a fire pit before being buried police arrested Chad immediately and Lor's trial began not long after it took another 3 years but eventually she was found guilty of first-degree murder conspiracy to commit first-degree murder and Grand Theft over the deaths of her children Lori was

far from remorseful in a bizarre statement she made to the court after she was sentenced my beautiful children k ashin and Joshua Jackson rest safely This Day In the Arms of Jesus and I look forward to the day when we are all reunited and I too will rest with them in the arms of my Jesus thankfully this evil mother if you can even call her that anymore won't be getting out anytime soon as she was sentenced to five consecutive life sentences she's not finished in the courtroom yet though as her trial for murdering Charles is

set to start in April 202 4 as of March 2024 Chad DeBell is yet to go to trial but he could be facing a similar conviction and a lifetime Behind Bars