How Meditation Can Help You CREATE A NEW REALITY For Your Life w/ Dr Joe Dispenza

what sinks in the brain links in the brain and all of a sudden the person starts to feel more like themselves there's an integration so we started noticing these elegant states where the there was global coherence in other words we were measuring many compartments of the brain simultaneously and when waves are working in order when they're working in coherence then the whole entire brain is working like a symphony and you start feeling whole and you start feeling clear and you can think you you're coherent you can have a vision or an intention of the future

[Music] all right welcome back to the show everybody i have my dear friend here today first person in the history of the show to come on three times so that says something right out of the gate and let me tell you why he's brilliant and i enjoy my time with him so much and i know all of you do as well if you're new to the show today will be something that you're going to want to share with as many people as you possibly can that you love and care about my guest is dr joe

dispenza difficult guy to describe i guess i would say he is probably the best guy in the planet that sort of looks at the potential of the human experience and the combination of sort of brain and heart coherence epigenetics neuroscience the combination of all these different elements in one person and he delivers it in a way that you can understand it he's the smartest guy in the room but never feels the need to let you know that so he's back to impart some of his wisdom on us today joe thank you for being back here

i'm so happy to be with you and happy to see you too love our time together so there's a lot we're gonna cover today okay what are you working on right now though that you're most excited about because when we were getting ready to do this you're like i am probably more excited right now than i ever have been in my life so let's start there yeah what's happened in the last two years we run these week-long events and it's a full immersion and just before kovid we had a group of scientists from the university

of california san diego come and study some of the phenomenological things that have been happening in people's biology because we have had numerous testimonies of some of the most incredible things that that i that if you asked me three years ago when i was first on your show did i would we ever see anything like this or do you think you'd see anything like this i'd i'd probably say maybe once in my lifetime i'd be super happy so blind people seeing deaf people hearing people in wheelchairs that uh from strokes with paralysis walking again i

mean these are profound upgrades biologically i think if you teach people the what and the why then the how gets easier because because it becomes practical and when people understand the what and the why they assign meaning to what they're doing and they switch on their prefrontal cortex that that executive function in the brain actually dampens down the circuits that has nothing to do with anything else but that single-minded thought right so so when you understand the what and the why and there's nothing left to conjecture to superstition to dogma to spirituality that science is

the contemporary language that we use to demystify the mystical so when that person stands on the stage and they're telling their story and they're the example of truth they're they're speaking truth right so they've actually applied those principles that were once philosophical theoretical um that was just basically knowledge and the application the personalization the demonstration created an experience experience is really what changes us because it enriches the circuitry in the brain but the end product of an experience is an emotion right and emotion is what teaches our body chemically to understand what our mind intellectually

understood i look out in the audience and and people are leaning in you know they're they're looking at truth they're looking at an example of truth that is the four-minute mile that's somebody who broke through a level of consciousness or unconsciousness that says that we can heal by thought alone so what is the what is the science behind that so when we started bringing in reputable scientists people that are well published that that spend their life studying uh microbiology and cellular function and epigenetics and and uh brainwave function in in and all these other different

elements uh thousands of metabolites on a cellular level that could be secreted we're looking very specifically when we when we did these studies so we started studying everything yeah and we started looking at brains and we started looking at hearts and then we started noticing that people would have these very very very transcendental moments where there was a significant arousal that took place in their brain and that arousal which is typically based in fear in anger or aggression or in pain that's a survival response this arousal was was ecstasy this arousal was bliss so the

amount of energy in those people's brains during that moment of the only way that i could describe it is connection that moment produced such a level of energy in the brain that it was hundreds of times normal and this is being measured you're doing the brain scans we're measuring it in real time exactly and then when we see these very very high degrees of energy in the brain at the same time we're seeing a high level of order now not just a little order not a lot of order like a supernatural amount of order when

you say order joe do you mean the coherence between the brain and the heart or what do you mean by order when you say that okay so so um if you're late for an appointment you got to pick your kid up there's 10 texts you have to answer and something went wrong at the office the arousal of the stress hormones causes us to move into that primitive nervous system of survival and when we're in stress we're trying to control we're trying to predict we're trying to organize our life because that unknown is or something can

go wrong it's unpredictable so we shift our attention to one person to another meeting to another place we have to go another time another thing we have to do and every single one of those elements has a neurological network in our brain because you've experienced your wife you've experienced your co-worker you experience your you know your pain in your back your cell phone whatever your relationship with everything physical or material and it's mapped neurologically in the brain in fact the neocortex is really a record of the past right so the arousal of those stress hormones

causes us to shift our attention to all of these different elements and we activate those circuits and like a lightning storm in the clouds the brain starts firing very incoherently when the brain is incoherent we're incoherent when the brain isn't working right we're not working right at the same exact time you're sitting in traffic you can't really run there's nowhere to run you can't really fight there's no one to fight and you know you can't really hide and so the arousal of this primitive nervous system causes the heart its rate to increase in a respiratory

rate to increase because that was the mechanism of survival if you're being chased by t-rex you better increase your heart rate and your respiratory rate so now the heart rate and the respiratory rate are increasing but you're not running fighting and hiding there's a physiological change in your body for emergency yeah and you're taking all this vital energy that you would use for growth and repair for long-term building projects and you're tapping all the body's resources and you're turning it and converting it into chemistry right so now the heart is racing but you're not using

that energy so it's pumping against a closed system it causes the heart to start firing very incoherently and that's when you stop trusting that's when you stop loving that's when you stop communing that's when you stop cooperating that's when you stop really creating or thinking about possibilities not a time to learn not a time to go within and so people spend the majority of their time living in the state and in that aroused state those chemicals heighten our senses and we narrow our focus on the material world because that's where the danger is if something's

behind the big rock and you hear it moving and it's dark at night and you're walking you're going to freeze and you're going to narrow your focus and the arousal is going to heighten your senses and that kind of narrow focus becomes habituated when people live in constant stress now we talked about this one on one of the shows we were on and you can turn on that response just by thinking about your problems so now your your the arousal of those chemicals becomes almost like an addiction you actually it's the familiar and you need

the you need the familiar stimulation to reaffirm that that that that emotional state right because that's how we feel alive so we thought wow what if we teach people how to go from that narrow focus to broadening their focus and opening their focus and focusing on nothing material or physical and when we did that by sensing space by sensing nothing opening and broadening their focus those different compartments of the brain that were firing out of order incoherently started to synchronize got it now what sinks in the brain links in the brain and all of a

sudden the person starts to feel more like themselves there's an integration so we started noticing these elegant states where the there was global coherence in other words we were measuring many compartments of the brain simultaneously and when waves are working in order when they're working in coherence then the whole entire brain is working like a symphony and you start feeling whole and you start feeling clear and you can think you you're coherent you can have a vision or an intention of the future so when we were doing these studies we we noticed that if we

could teach people how to dial down their thinking neocortex their analytical mind and by sensing space if you're sensing you're not thinking or analyzing you're sensing and you start slowing your brain waves from that high beta brainwave state when you're in survival into these lower beta brainwave states and ultimately into alpha alpha alpha is the creative state alpha is the imaginary state that's when the voice in your head that's talking to you all the time that default mode kind of shuts off and your brain starts to see in images and pictures you start you start

imagining it's an imaginary state it's a creative state so we use that state in the state of creation but then we took it a little further what if we could teach a person to slow their brain waves down even more into theta and in theta you're in a hypnotic state and the hypnotic states cause you to be very suggestible to information and suggestibility is your ability to accept believe and surrender to information as the truth without ever analyzing it and that's what exactly programs the subconscious mind the applications for this everybody listening to this is

your whole creative state changes when you're in this in this state as well your ability to create you even make the case that their personality changes right that there's a personality change and so i want you to address that because you have this unbelievable saying that you say your personal reality is dictated by your personality right exactly and so just step back into that just for a second the application of it and creativity for people and then is it a temporary change okay thank you for asking the question because we also discovered that you didn't

have to have those transcendental moments all you had to do is work on regulating your internal state every day and the novice meditators people who just came to an event that really had no experience in meditation but immersed themselves for seven days okay our data suggests at the end of seven days their body completely looks like they're in a different life a completely different environment the science is pointing the finger at there's strong environmental changes going on in the person's biology but they're in a ballroom right there's not a lot of things happening in a

ballroom but so then how does that happen okay so the application then becomes important for everybody because when we started looking at advanced meditators that didn't have those transcendental states but they practiced meditation every day there was a dosing effect in other words the more they self-regulated the more they were resistant to the things in their environment well let's think about that if i say to you ed why are you upset today and you say i'm upset because of the staff member i'm going to accept because what i heard on the news there was traffic

i was late what you're really saying is my environment some person some condition something in my outer world is actually having control over the way i feel and the way i think right and so that's a subconscious program called victimization anything that controls you the way you feel in the way you think you're victim to now the problem is is that the majority of times our response to the environment weakens the organism okay that that means that your fear your anger your aggression weakens the organism so now so now the environment is actually causing the

organism through the stress hormones and the long-term effects to really start down regulating systems in the body right so that's incredible so as long as you react to your environment and the response is causing you to become weakened you're victim to your environment well what makes sense then would you be more susceptible to anything in your environment because you're a victim to it but the process of change is is the the difficulty is is that 90 of the thoughts you think are the same thoughts you think you thought the day before nerve cells that fire

together wire together keep firing the same thoughts keep making the same choices keep doing the same things keep recreating the same experiences that stamp the same networks of neurons into the same patterns all for the familiar feeling called you and do that enough times and your biology your neurocircuitry your neurochemistry your hormones your gene expression stays the same because you're the same okay so then instead of sitting down trying to meditate for 10 minutes and say i then believe in the thought i can't meditate or i don't have enough time or i'm a really important

person or i got too many too many emails to answer it's garbage day or it's my mother's fault it's my ex's fault i want to complain i want to blame i want to make excuses i want to lay down my bladder's full i like this what am i doing wrong they're agitated and patient that's that's the personality that has been hardwired and conditioned emotionally into the past that's resisting the unknown it would rather cling to suffering and take a chance in possibilities so our events we say okay here's the knowledge and i can say now

with a great degree of certainty more than ever that if you actually do this and you stretch yourself a little bit further than where you would normally go at home your brain will change and if you teach people how to do this over and over again and no different than training an animal the body is the animal are you training the body that you're in charge you're telling the body it's no longer the mind that you're the mind yes and when you do that those victories add up and all of a sudden there's a liberation

of energy there goes the guilt there goes the pain there goes the whatever it doesn't matter if it's health it doesn't matter if it's wealth or success it doesn't matter if it's a loving relationship a change in a career a mystical experience whatever it is the person all of a sudden starts to relax into the present moment now let's demystify the present moment people wake up in the morning and they they think about their problems and those problems or memories that are etched in their brain that are connected to certain people and objects at certain

times and places the moment they wake up in the morning and they start thinking of their problems or thinking in the past okay now every one of those problems has an emotion associated with it so when they feel unhappy when they feel bitter when they feel fearful now their body's in the past thoughts are the language of the brain feelings of the language of the body thought and feeling image and emotion stimulus and response you're conditioning the body to be the mind of that emotion subconsciously now the body is believing it's living in the same

past experience 24 hours a day seven days a week 365 days a year why because the body's so objective it doesn't know the difference between the real life experience that's creating that emotion and the emotion that person is creating by thought alone important the body doesn't know the difference and so what the environment signals the gene that's epigenetics the end product from an experience in the environment is an emotion the person's signaling the same genes in the same way and genes make proteins and proteins are responsible for the structure and function of your body and

the expression of proteins is expression of life and now the person is actually headed for genetic destiny and when people labor for the present moment and they take their attention off of their body off of all the people in their life all of the objects they own their cell phone their computer their car their house they're no longer identifying with where they're sitting where they need to be where they live where they've lived in the past where they need to go and they're not thinking about the predictable future of the familiar past they're dissociating from

everything physical and material everything known that is the exact moment we call getting beyond yourself okay now when we're in that place then at the beginning it's uncomfortable because we're survival is the unknown you better chances of survival in running from the unknown but that unknown is the perfect place to create from so in the process no different than any rehab in our first two days of our event really people are they're basically they're basically rehabbing from their emotional states and their habits and they're sitting in the presence of that discomfort right and the discomfort

is because the body is leaving the known but but but the body has been conditioned to be the mind the moment you take it outside of its familiar territory it's going to start telling you ed why don't you quit you know you're not really good at this you know you're more of a physical person you don't really want to do this you're not very this or very that and most people just get up when they do the meditation they believe that thought as if it's true now the question is what's on the other side of

that thought can you sit there long enough till that's no longer the thought you accept believe and surrender to well then wow the next question side of that thought what is the other what's on the other side of that familiar emotion can i sit and work with my body and settle it down stay you stay i'm gonna feed you you're not gonna die from this your bladder's not gonna explode you're not gonna go crazy and you work with catching those thoughts it's called metacognition if you're in that 95 of programming where you're unconscious then the

first step to change is becoming conscious of your unconscious thoughts so conscious that you would never go unconscious or let that thought slip by you unnoticed i want to understand so you're saying the awareness of the thought being conscious of the thought has it somehow lose its power over you exactly exactly because just because you have a thought doesn't mean it's true and if you're left alone to yourself you'll start believing every thought you think and that's the problem so then the majority of people's thoughts then are based on what they perceive about themselves from

their past or their life right and if you catch yourself complaining and blaming and making excuses and judging someone else and you say i want to be a happy person well a happy person would never do that would make them unhappy if you notice that you've been feeling guilty for the last 20 years you didn't know was guilt because it just felt like you and you want to feel joy well if you can feel joy it should tell us volumes about what you've been practicing doing right so then most people give up because they they

don't know that there's anything on the other side of it so then the next question is what thoughts do you want to fire and wire in your brain well and with attention and with intention if you keep practicing firing wiring those thoughts you start installing hardware do it enough times and it becomes like a software program and now that's the new voice you program in your head that said i can do this i believe in myself and you've created to an extent a new personality which can create a new personal reality now here we go

so then the next question is how am i going to behave with my kids today how am i going to be with my wife i'm going to be with my partner i'm going to be at work i'm going to be on my zoom calls i'm going to be by myself how am i going to what what does greatness look like what does what would love do today now it turns out that if you close your eyes and you start imagining doing that if you rehearse how you're gonna be in those certain situations the evidence without

a doubt shows that your brain will start to look like through the mental rehearsal of the act that you've already done it now you've installed the hardware keep doing it it becomes a software program and you'll start acting like a happy person no magic there if you don't have the circuits you can't do it so the rehearsal then is actually changing the brain just by thinking differently the brain looks like the experience has already happened now you have hardware to use do it enough times you get good at it becomes more automatic now here's the

hard part can i teach my body emotionally what my future will feel like before it happens now this is really important because there's a pandemic going on in the world that has nothing to do with a virus it has everything to do with people's attention span and learning people need a rush of dopamine in order to catch their attention or a rush of adrenaline to learn and so that they're they're dependent on their outer environment to regulate their emotional state now this is different now now i'm going to say to you get in that beautiful

heart of yours and i want you to feel gratitude for the event before it occurs well i can't feel it because it hasn't happened yet yeah that's the conditioning that's the hypnosis so then when you teach purple people how to create hard coherence and self-regulate then it makes sense then with a coherent brain they can hold the image of their future they can actually then rehearse who they're going to be they can bring up the emotions of their future now here's the cool part awesome if they can feel their gratitude before their healing their healing

begins if they feel their abundance or their worthiness before they have their wealth it will start generating abundance if they start being in love with themselves and being in love with life they'll create an equal that's the law if they're in awe of life or in awe of the moment they're going to have a mystical experience if they're empowered they're going to start stepping towards their success success so then when we wait for the outer world to change our internal state that's a conditioning process because some people will live in lack and separation their entire

life because they're not creating anything when this happens then i'll feel happy that's the illusion of three-dimensional reality that's cause and effect but feeling the emotion ahead of the experience is causing an effect so the heart when it's coherent tends to produce an external magnetic field that's up to three meters wide now you've got a wi-fi signal now when you have a coherent brain the brain could actually lay the information on that signal and the thought of your wealth or your health can be carried on the frequency of that heart emotion emotions are the end

product of an experience right epigenetics says that's the environment that signals the gene if the environment signals the gene and the end product of an experience in the environment is an emotion that person's signaling genes ahead of the environment and now they're biologically believing behaving and actually becoming that person so if the person sustains that satan state and we look at novice meditators that come for a week and 90 of them and and the metabolites not just a few the majority of the metabolites and novice meditators suggest that their body's in a different life so

you're transcending your environment people ask me all the time why does joe always go back to the health part of the benefit of this i'm going to stay in there it just dawned on me because you're a scientist so the the external stuff of attracting the relationship you want or the money you want or the emotion that you want is a difficult thing to measure isn't it it's difficult to measure but the when it becomes a one's health or well-being it's measurable right so for example you say that and this is how powerful this is

think about the power of this joe's able to tell you that he can actually measure the emotion the repeated emotion of fear and its impact on the immune system compared to the repeated emotion of gratitude or bliss and its impact on the immune system so it's actually a measurable tangible thing so address that stay on there and then the other thing we keep using this term heart coherence i know there's a part of my audience going okay what is that my understanding of heart coherence essentially physically means that your breathing and heart are actually in

unison at one point and that you sustain that over a duration of time elaborate on that and go for it coherence is rhythm it's a cadence and when you're in fear or you're in survival and your heart rate increases and your respiratory rate increases your brain waves go up into this aroused state right and people spend 70 percent of their life anticipating the worst case scenario that's going to happen in their life and prepare for the worst chronic stress does what causes us to hold our breath all right so we found you know in our

research and working with the heart math institute and also some of the stuff we've been doing that if you slow your breathing down you slow your brain waves down and if you teach your body to move out of survival there's only one other thing it wants to do it wants to create right so now just imagine a big drum and now you're so contracted that you can't you can't hit that drum and as you learn and teach a person how to convert from that fight-or-flight nervous system to the nervous system of relaxation the heart actually

starts to bloom and when you place your attention on your heart we have the data i can say this emphatically and when that heart starts to beat in rhythm it starts to inform the brain that it's time to create like taking a big sheet and going like this wave of energy goes right to the brain the brain goes right in the alpha and says it's safe now to create examine other possibilities you're out of survival right so then as you hit that drum repeatedly there's a wave of sound that's produced and the more coherent it

is the more it can carry information right or if you drop a pebble in the water and you drop another pebble in the water and drop another pebble in the water when your heart is coherent there's a magnetic field right do you think joe that like i'm just curious i'm thinking about all the applications of stuff you know how i'm always the application dude right i'm thinking of a guy like i think i'm just a a person like i watched that could embody this in some ways do you think do you assume someone like a

tiger woods or a brady i think i'm like okay now i'm an athlete thinking about this most athletes most people going into a board room to make a presentation for example or to ask somebody out for a date the more stressful they perceive the environment to be the more poorly they perform typically yeah so you can take two golfers who both hit a golf ball the exact same way as the environment changes and becomes the perception of the environment becomes more stressful i'm just right you're nodding yes for people that are on audio a guy

like a tiger woods when it's the putt to win the masters and there's 50 billion people watching and it's for legacy everything's slowing down for him his heart rate is probably more regulated he's got more heart coherence at that time so he's in a creative state whereas the other person's heart rate is increasing they're a complete incoherence and they can't create and function and incoherence causes you to over analyze god and we've discovered this that if you if you analyze anything your life yourself within some disturbing emotion you're gonna make your brain worse 100 of

the time in other words you're thinking in the past and your thoughts are arousing the brain more into that state of survival now that's that's when we over focus that's when we overthink right so you have the ability to do whatever you've always done the other way if you've conditioned yourself into the state of anxiety or chaos or fear repeatedly then you create a personality that creates those elements in your life and then you reinforce it with your experience you can then do the same thing the other way that's my point that's my point so

then so the person's having a spontaneous love attack they've done it enough times their body's going hey uh it's been about uh two hours without a little love well let me just let me just automatically do that and so now when you feel these elevated emotions it activates the pro-social networks in the brain survival creates the protective networks like i don't trust you i'm separate you're different i'm going to do my own thing i'm selfish right now it's all about me let's compete let's fight let's let's uh uh uh you know manipulate let's force it

let's control it let's do matter trying to change matter that's kind of the program right so then the opposing part of this is that when people start to connect and they start to have these elevated states then something really unusual happens the the the reality seems to conform in ways that are equal to who they're being so now the heart is saying to the brain it's time to create and now your energy is changed and nothing changes until we change our energy and when you change your energy you change your life right and so then

the idea then is to be able to maintain that modified state of mind and body your entire day and as i said get so good at doing it with your eyes closed that you can do with your eyes open now if you can sustain that state for an extended period of time i don't care what you want and people have created all kinds of things i use health as the example because it's really relatable now all of a sudden it's like you're no longer having to go and get it and do something like matter to

matter to go get it and until you arrive at that experience you're in lacquer separation until the experience happens there's a feeling oh my god well this is kind of like the opposite this is like you're not going anywhere everything's coming to you so the thought tends to have an electrical charge in the quantum field it tends to be the directive it sends the signal out and the heart tends to have a magnetic field it tends to draw the experience to us so then if you teach people how to create from the field instead of

from matter they will shorten the distance between the thought of what they want and the experience of having it between the cause and the effect now think about three-dimensional reality many people can develop the skills to become successful they can make the right choices they can study real hard they can practice they can get trained but they're going to follow certain rules of newtonian physics it's just going to take time to get what you want she's going to take time and hard work there's nothing wrong with that you do that for a while and sooner

or later you're going to say is there another way now this is where it gets exciting okay if it's not matter that's emitting the field it's the field that's creating matter if i can change the information in the field i can change the expression in three-dimensional reality so if you can teach a person become nobody no one no thing nowhere in no time to become pure consciousness and disconnect and dissociate from everything physical and known in their three-dimensional reality we have data to say that people can do this now all of a sudden if they

become aware that they can actually connect to that field with their awareness and they're not at my led any longer their consciousness their awareness and infinite vacuum and in emptiness in space it would be like the illusion is the virtual reality headset you're taking the headset off you can't get the upgrade from inside of it if you could have a coherent heart and a coherent brain and create from the field instead of from matter every thought in the quantum field produces a frequency if you can feel the frequency of that thought and you experience it

you're shortening the distance between the thought of what you want and the experience of it and you're creating coherent patterns of energy in the field that actually change the hologram in three-dimensional realities so so for me personally i've done a lot of the matter of the matter stuff got really good at it and then i just said there's got to be another way so demystify the process i don't care what you want i don't care if it's a trip somewhere or a new life or a new car or whatever people who do this what do

you think they feel when they see that first synchronicity you think they'll be like oh yeah i don't want to meditate tomorrow and do this are you kidding the synchronicity happens and the energy the surprise wakes the person up and they go whatever i'm doing inside of me is producing some effect outside of me i better pay attention to what i'm doing and keep doing it and every human being's had some glimpse of this at least some point in their life the point is that this can be happening on a regular basis for you the

real irony of all of this is this idea of changing from matter to matter and then moving into a higher space where it's energy to matter the truth is is that when you get there if we're going a little bit deeper is it the very thing that you think you want to create and matter you don't really need to create no because because listen when you start connecting to those greater frequencies you're moving closer to source and what is source pure love what is it oneness wholeness whatever you want to call that's right there the

whole time it's inevitable it's like it's the most familiar unfamiliar feeling you'll ever have and we came from that place you know we came from there and so you're in an experiment called three-dimensional reality consciousness and the never-ending process of self-discovery right and so now the person who has the synchronicity who has the coincidence they're there this is what i love about our community more than anything else they do the work they're not philosophers they're not theologians they're not academic they are out of the bleachers and they're on the playing field every day they're creating

and the person who heals from their disease they're not saying why am i not healed they're saying what is it about me that i still have to change that will create the healing this is a different experiment now and so now we had a guy that would came in a wheelchair an event we did recently he came in that throne he walked from he had als he walked from the back of the room all the way to the stage walked up the stairs out of that wheelchair on his own i asked him he said i

just i just have to work on staying in this emotional state because the longer i stay there the more i'm noticing that my body's responding he's not saying why am i why am i not healed he understands that the only way he can actually heal is to change him right and so now it becomes very practical right it becomes very practical do you think it's important that practical part of it i think sometimes people think they're disqualified if they can't explain something they do well let me tell you one of the interesting things on the

show many of the people that do things exceptionally well that have been on my show athletes or entertainers really don't do a very good job of explaining it they embody it and i think sometimes someone listens to somebody like you who can explain this and think that they're disqualified from becoming good if they can't explain how they're doing it but the truth is it's a repeated experience that becomes familiar for them without the need to express how you're doing it right again for me right this is your this is your life is teaching people to

do this and giving them the tools but for the vast majority of people it's it's creating the experience everybody everybody has done this at least once in their life what do they do they sat down and they said what would it be like to be happy what would it be like to be healthy what would it be like to have a new life would you like to be in love and they asked the question instead of getting on their cell phone and texting someone posting they actually sat there and they actually said let me answer

the question yeah let me get uncomfortable here and what is it that i truly want what would i have to change about myself to be healthy to be happy to be well successful what are my bad habits they get busy writing down all the the the choices they want to make all the things they want to do they start writing down all their goals all their experiences and every goal experience they write down in their future there's an emotion they get inspired they get optimistic they get grateful they get energized and those emotions fuel more

thoughts and now they're they're they're actually changing their biology and then they do something really really really really important they start looking at the thoughts that they no longer want to think they write them down i can it's too hard i'll start tomorrow don't feel good they start looking at the choices they're going to have to stop making and when they they understand when they stop making those choices it's going to be uncomfortable that's the hardest part about change they start thinking about the things they have to stop doing i got to get off the

couch i got to stop watching this i got to stop overreading whatever it is and then we've all done this and there comes a moment where you start noticing that like you start saying hey i believe this is this is actually going to happen right and that's when you take the foot off the gas pedal and you start really realizing wow i was the resource of actually making this happen and then i changed yeah i changed in the process so the the exciting part about it you tell people who created wealth to talk to people

who created relationships that are talk to people who have created health they'll tell you my disease my poverty was my greatest teacher my past was my greatest teacher they look back at their past and now there's no longer an emotion associated with it the memory without the emotional charge is wisdom now you get to go to the future you get to create whatever you're free-willed you you could be anybody you want to be in the process right memory without the emotional charge this is that's how you erase its impact on you from the past i

want to ask you something about that i've always wanted to ask you this and by the way joe and i we've flown on my plane together there's all these times i wanted to ask you this question and i wonder because i have created some things in matter in the material world that maybe now i'm at this place where it's dawned on me all along my fear is that i think sometimes if i think the way i'm about to ask you about maybe i wouldn't have created any of the material things which i know is flawed

thinking and it's this it's that this idea that you can get to this heightened you know gamma wave brave brain state and you're just fully intentional right having an intention at that time we have a culture that's been taught for years and years and years to get really clear intention about the physical matter things we want i want a million dollars in the bank i want a private jet i want to weigh 150 pounds but the truth is we really don't want those things we want we want the emotion we think those things will give

us wouldn't it be smarter for people to get and very few people ever do to get clear about the emotions they wish to experience on a regular basis and not the physical matter things well that's that's exactly the point that's exactly the point and and look people can create all kinds of wealth and they can create all kinds of abundance they can have the cars the homes and everything but if they can't be present right to enjoy them i've sat with billionaires and they've looked me in the eye and said we're all miserable same here

we're all miserable and and and and and so then at what point do you have to wait uh to change does it have to be that lowest point or or or can you learn and change in a state of joy and inspiration instead of instead of pain and suffering and that that becomes the art right so then to change then is to be greater than the habituations the drives and the emotions that have been conditioned in the body to changes to be greater than the conditions in our environment that every person every object everything in

our life has a neurological network associated with them their knowns because we've experienced them and we have an emotion associated with them so you if you're not being defined by a vision of the future you're left with the memories of the past and you see your ex and you're going to see your ex through the memory of your past neurologically and it's going to elicit an emotional response and you're thinking and feeling equal to your environment your life's not going to change so then the next question is how could i overcome that condition that with

my ex can i actually forgive could i actually open my heart can i actually the reason we do this is because the stronger the emotion we feel towards someone or something in our life the more we pay attention to them and where we place our attention is where we place our energy and so then we're giving our power away to that person or circumstance that's vital life force you could use to change the person who's sitting in the meditation and they want to quit this is they're thinking they're doing their meditation wrong i want to

tell you you're doing it right that's the defining moment right and you lower the volume to that emotion i guarantee you'll take your attention off that person and sooner or later when the body finally settles down and you get beyond it you're gonna take your power back and that's building your own electromagnetic field now you have energy to heal now you have energy great we've measured this now you have energy for for creation right so you see this incredible dance that goes on now because we built the technology between the heart and the brain so

then when the brain and the heart are coherent my goodness there's a feeling where you can call it the zone or whatever you want to call or just you feel like you have enough time to get things done and no person no circumstance is going to break you from your state right that that that zone or whatever you want to call that is actually teachable so do you have to reach gamma to do that no we're just knowing that the people that hit gamma they had an instantaneous biological upgrade there's the eczema 37 years of

eczema the next day it's gone back to your original question we have great evidence in testimony and we have great evidence in our scientific studies and evidence is the loudest voice and you can't tell me you're too old to do this you can't tell me you're too sick to do this i've seen people with 50 brain tumors that were emaciated couldn't walk couldn't speak on the stage talking in front of an audience can't tell me you're too sick to do this now if you examine that person you know who comes to the event and there's

no hope you know they you have three months to live you have six months to live and they're not accepting that or believing that or surrendering to that they're actually saying there's got to be some other way there's got to be some other way if i created this is it possible that i that i can uncreate it so that the person who's who's on the stage telling that story and and it may have taken them 18 months but they never missed a day why is that essential because there were days where they felt so bad

in their body so sick that they didn't feel like doing their meditation but they did it anyway there were days they had so much doubt because their condition was actually worsening and they could have succumbed to their doubt but they they did their meditation anyway there there were days that they were in such an incredible fear because the doctor told them it was three months and it would be over and it was the three-month period and they had every reason to not do their meditation they did it anyway they could have said i don't have

enough time i have kids i i got schedules they found time to do it and it was the overcoming the overcoming the overcoming that was the becoming process and and when they became that person what is the side effect of your own personal transformation for example most people they when they have a physical health condition the moment they notice there's a change like in pain in something in their sleep you know whatever it is there's some change they they make the connection right away and that's when it's the dog on the bone now they're they're

doing it twice a day not because they have to because that's their medicine and and i have sat with the the scientists that have come to our events i asked them to participate in a week-long event and the one guy who's looking at the virus outside the cell i said to him one well how does this going to change how is this going to change the way you do research he said this is this is my medicine this i see i've seen what it does and people say oh are you saying meditation actually can cause

your body be to resistant to viruses no no no i'm not saying that the date is saying then i'm not just this is not what i'm saying the data is actually saying that so what a great time in history to be alive because you could be young we have people that are eight years old nine years old we have usually about between 70 and 100 kids that come to our event that are under the age of 25 and under we have kids that are seven eight nine years old that participate all the way i got

down on my knees with one of those one of these kids and we were that we were doing a specific meditation and i leaned over and i said to him how was that he said that felt really good and why do i want that to be a normal feeling for him because i want to know who he's going to be yeah we're changing his you're changing his gene expression at that age right and so so so it's an amazing time there's a time in history where it's not enough to know there's a time in history

to know how so my interest to answer your question is to demystify the process no different than learning how to hit a golf ball everybody that has a skill that can do anything really well has done the exact same thing that i'm talking about there's nothing different about it yeah but you're giving the you're demystifying by giving us the recipe and the formula and using science to validate it really for the first time that's really the difference yeah and but but but really don't believe me don't don't believe me go out and experiment with it

go out and experiment if i change my energy will my life change would that be your first recommendation because as we wrap things up here a little bit would you recommend they just begin to regulate their breathing start with meditating what would your first recommendation be i'm listening to this you go i want to change i still want to change matter in my life i want to create the body i want to create the one thing there isn't anything wrong with that i want to i want to experience the emotions in my life that i've

touched on them before but i want to have them on a regular basis i know they're right here within me at any time what would your just your basic recommendation be to begin yeah i think the first thing is to learn every time you learn you make new connections in your brain and learning is making those connections and uh i was joking with my staff this week i said nobody reads anymore nobody reads nobody reads anything learn information why because we found out that in our events if you can be present and not look at

your cell phone or not talk about your past but be present with the content and i can combine quantum physics with neuroscience with neuroendocrinology with psychoneuroimmunology mind body connection epigenetics electromagnetism you can really get it like you can give me the nod and then i say okay you i looking at an audience of 1500 600 people okay well turn to the person next to you and teach it back to them if you can't explain that it's not wired in your brain and you'll doubt that it's possible and you'll do something differently okay if you can

explain it then you're causing your brain to fire and new sequences and new patterns and new combinations whenever you make your brain work differently you're changing your mind why because mind is the brain in action so you keep reminding yourself this now this it's easier to forget this than remember it you know it takes practice it really you can't get it in one bite it's a learning process right so now you're installing the neurological hardware in your brain in preparation for the experience so knowledge is the precursor to the experience right without the knowledge and

the information it's conjecturous right so the more you understand the what in the terms of what you're doing and the why you're doing it the application the practical aspect the how becomes exciting like oh i'm going to get it as an example you can take someone and throw them in an ice bath they have no knowledge of ice but what that can do and then because they have no knowledge the ice bath is actually gonna is going to cost them harm right right you take that person you can teach them a few things and put

them in an ice bath and actually be instrumental actually gain value from it well the prefrontal cortex the one that said now you got to make this you got to make this valuable you can take a person and you can you can put them in an environment and they can perceive the environment as a problem and you can measure their autonomic response and it'll weaken their autonomic response you can take that person and have them perceive it as a challenge and actually strengthen their autonomic response okay so now what's the what's what's the reason behind

this well you gotta you gotta put as much tension on your inner world of how you're thinking and how you're feeling and how you're gonna behave as much as your outer world of three-dimensional reality and meditation is just a way to say okay let me get my brain and body right i'm gonna present ed mylette to the world today i got one lifetime one groundhog day one day i just want something different something unusual something mystical some sign from the universe that i created and i wanted to come in a way that i would never

think of that would be the unknown because if i can predict it it's the known okay let me before i get up and grab my phone and do all my things and get plugged back into my known world let me just say okay who do i no longer want to be i want to become so conscious that i won't go unconscious again the fundamental question is how many times am i going to forget until i stop forgetting and start remembering that is the moment there's nothing mystical about this this is the work and then you're

gonna say okay who do i want to be when i open my eyes okay let me think about this how would greatness live i don't know read a book on greatness read a book on nelson mandela you want to be wealthy read about wealthy people and you're going to see that they didn't just make their wealth they lost a ton of money and failed a million times it was and that's reality okay well let's what were the qualities they were they they had perseverance they had determination they they cut their losses they forgave they forgot

about it they went on okay so how am i going to behave let me rehearse how i'm going to behave i'm going to do me take my time i have i have plenty of time to do let me just behave let me think about how i'm going to behave differently in this situation how am i going to change my emotional response when did i fall from grace yesterday and went back to my old self let me just i'll set up i'll set an alarm on my phone every three hours i'm going to just going to

go off and i'm gonna take a moment and get back into the feelings of my future okay if i can do that over and over again well what what do you think could happen in my life as a result of it so knowledge being the forerunner the application simple stuff simple stuff practice hard coherence there's plenty of stuff that we can you know we can talk about practice brain coherence we know we know i asked the brain scientists what percentage of people at the end of a week-long event uh what percentage of people will have

their brains changed for the better they said 100 100 one week fully immersed in into the experience you practice it every day now you can't do it once or twice and say why isn't my bank account full you know what i'm going to tell you you're not that good that's the only reason why if you were that good it would happen you're not that good so show up again and show up again and keep showing up and i just was talking to a staff member today the universe only gives us what we think we're worthy

of receiving right so then people who show up for themselves every day believe they're worthy they they they start feeling pretty damn worthy like hey they're like i'm worthy for this not like an entitlement way like sometimes they just like i'm i'm really i'm real i feel like it's gonna happen i'm worthy for it there's this intuitive knowledge about reciprocity if i put something in that i should be getting something out if i do it repeatedly totally agree with you yeah i have to tell you for a couple things one i love you and um

everyone i told you this is one of these shows you already know this you're going to listen to this a few times and you're going to want to share this with a bunch of people you're also going to want to follow joe and where should they follow you by the way i shouldn't assume that everybody knows although i think everybody knows but why don't you tell them uh well we probably instagram facebook um we have the website doctorjoethespends.com you know we have tons of resources for people to to get started we have a simple uh

13 or 12 uh series little instructional thing called the formula it's about brain heart coherence with five meditations a good good starter for people okay you know that kind of stuff but but but but it's really it's really about the knowledge and the application you're so special brother you're so special and you know i love you and i'm really grateful you did this again today um every single show has been so different and because you keep growing and your work keeps growing and the breakthroughs keep happening i'm really honored that i get to share you

with people man i'm really grateful you're in my life so oh thank you thank you the simple formula is relaxed and awake okay that's what brain and heart coherence is relaxed in your heart and awaken your brain and i i think you're that thank you brother yeah thank you wow wow wow wow by the way everyone make sure you get my book that's out right now we're coming out pre-order it the power of one more go to the power of one more dot com or go to amazon or there's books and get the power of

one more follow joe share this show that just rhymed and listen to it again or watch it again there's too much in here to just do it once and that's the sign of an unbelievable show that i can just feel people right now going oh my gosh oh my gosh and that's what dr joe does so thank you again brother everybody god bless you and continue to max out your life [Music] [Music] foreign