“Scarcity is an Illusion!” Big Sean’s SECRET to Becoming a Money Magnet

you could really be a magnet for whatever it is you're after in life and that includes money isn't off the table so one of the things that I had to adopt is that there's enough money for everyone to go around you don't have to look at it as like a you're in a desert and there's like a glass of water and you have to you know it's not like that I don't quit you bck sea has gone from rapping on the streets of Detroit to selling out stadiums multiplatinum artist Big Sean in the building Big

Sean how did you learn to trust in the universe that you would manifest something when there's nothing happening yeah for years you can't trust everything you see but you can trust everything you feel if you feel it if you trust it then you also have to let it out in the world and um know that it's going to happen at the right time you just got to prepare for it one of the Cycles I broke in my family is the illusion of scarcity cuz it really is an illusion I had to over time just make

an agreement with God that I always have all that I need period H I love this man our mutual friend Mike Posner I was just FaceTiming him and I said tell me something about big sea that most people don't know he said there was like a six-month window where it was dark for you yeah pretty dark that's right and then he saw you maybe 6 months later and you were glowing what was that for you do you know what yeah I'll tell you what it is it's two things hey there Louis how's here and I

am so excited about today's episode we have big sea but it's big sea like you've never seen or heard from him before because he Dives deep on the emotional side of going from a scarcity mindset to an abundance mindset he talks about the differences on how to navigate and manage Fame success and extreme wealth and opportunities how to create healthy boundaries in your life and really he talks about the relationship with money and setting goals in a completely different way I am so excited if you're a fan of Sean make sure to like this video

click subscribe to our Channel as well and leave a comment on the biggest thing you learned from this episode because there were so many golden nuggets I couldn't stop taking notes and taking mental insights around what I was learning from the lessons from having nothing to where he is at today and everything in between also if you've been struggling around creating Financial abundance in your life I've got a brand new book called make money easy and it's all about creating Financial freedom and peace in your life around money so if that's something you want to

unlock in 2025 and Beyond make sure to click the link below in the top of the description to pre-order your copy again I'm so excited about this episode The One and Only Big Sean welcome back everyone to the school of greatness very excited about our guest we have the inspiring big sea in the house my man what's up bro so excited that you're here couple Midwest kids Midwest it's too bad you're from that state up north but it's okay Detroit doesn't feel like Michigan to me though Detroit is its own thing well trust me bro

go Blue okay trust me okay it's too bad it's all this year it's happening we're coming back this year I know you know I have had one of my best shows of my life was at Ohio State I'm not going toe it was it was even though I am Die Hard go Blue I did perform in Ohio State and it was turn why was it one of the best shows ever was it like a spiritual Vibe or what well it was spiritual I guess in in that sense but it was just turned up it was

like wild like chaotic chaotic they know how to really party they go hard man they do there's not much else to do in the midwest though you like go hard when you love someone coming to your town you're like ah never screaming for you know yeah I know but man I'm happy to be here man this is I've seen a lot of great episodes and congratulations on I know it's been like 13 years you guys doing thanks brother thanks man um you are multiplatinum artist over 185 million records sold as what you just told me

that is insane how many and you have this new book out that I'm fascinated by because I wouldn't think of you writing this type of book if I just heard some of your earlier music I want to be thinking that you'd be writing this book called go higher five practices for purpose success and inner peace which I want to dive into but there's a quote that you talk about in the book on page 24 that says I visualized being on a cliff my higher self was saying to me that there was an invisible invisible bridge

in front of me that I was going to take me to to the other side yeah took a lot of faith to walk over that bridge but that's what I did it took four years but during that time I never lost faith and I kept writing so when my next shot came around I was ready and I H and I had a ton of songs I was asking the universe at that time to provide me with the people who could help me get to where I needed to be as well as people who I could

find a way to help as well I wanted it to be mutually beneficial this is this is powerful and I wanted to start here because the thing you say is I visualized being on a cliff I visualized and this is a time where you had gotten signed but nothing was happening for years happens to so many artists like that so you're excited something is big I just got signed H I'm going to make it big the next thing I do it's going to happen but four years essentially nothing's happening right and I'm curious how did

you learn to trust in the universe that you would manifest something when there's nothing happening for for years how did you continue to trust the invisible bridge that would take you from where you are to where you want to be well you can't trust everything you see but you can trust everything you feel you feel me so it's one of those things where I didn't know how it was going to happen and I think that's one of the things we don't have to worry about all the time is the how I think we get racked

up on those details of like how is it going to happen how but if you feel it if you trust it then you also have to let it let it out in the world and um know that it's going to happen at the right time you just got to prepare for it so that's kind of like was always my mentality and even like in my early music like I do make like a lot of fun music party music but I always have a sense of like my essence of my spirit in some of those songs

too like you know even songs like bounce back or one of my first songs was I'm going to make a million And1 and it was like still like manifestation but it like it was like I was applying it to like my stuff you know but I also was just like having fun with it but I think that's important too to have fun with it um I was blessed to have like all of these Guardian Angels like my mom and you know a lot of my friends and just like I feel like the I feel like

God and the universe and all of these things that you if you believe in it they talk through other people or through instances or a song you're hearing or you know I'm really one of the first books that really taught me to pay attention to the Omens was The Alchemist and it's like you got to pay attention to the signs and the Omens and when you are grateful for that when you entertain it when you get more energy to it you act like a magnet it's you know you magnetize it to yourself so it's like

that is you know just how I think and I think that however we think is the truth you know there is no right or wrong way to do things there's no right or one of the biggest misconceptions is like I don't know how to meditate you know it's like there really is no right or wrong way it's really just about you believing in it absolutely we were I was just talking about before we jumped on our mutual friend Mike Posner I was just FaceTiming him and I said tell me something about Big Sean that most

people don't know and he said and he said he said he has a real huge heart exactly yeah he said um he said you changed his life and you you're the one who brought him into spirituality and God he said he wasn't into God or spirituality until he wasn't actually he wasn't you and he said there were a couple of moments that you brought him this and it was the moment when after years of you being signed but nothing was happening he said there was like a six-month window where it was dark for you it's

pretty dark that's right and he thought oh I don't know what's going to happen with this guy and then he saw you maybe six months later and you were glowing and he said I want whatever this guy has what does he have what is he doing what is the thing that he did to transform from going to the darkness and into this glowing energy and what was that for you do you know what yeah I'll tell you what it is it's two things you got to realize that everything isn't together so what I mean by

that everything isn't singular so what I mean is that because things weren't working out for me that doesn't have anything to do with my happiness because my dream was taking longer to happen because things weren't going my way at first I was letting it dictate my life I was letting it like tear me down and be depressed over it you know and be like and then you realize that yo hold up that's this is my choice to to to be happy and then I realized that okay if I choose that I'm operating at a different

level of just Consciousness so that's how I'm going get this I I'm not going to ATT trct nothing I want by being depressed or down because things aren't going my way bro life moves on how did you learn how to separate them when most people they have a bad day they have a bad month a bad year it dictates their happiness their joy and their peace how did you separate things not working out for you to it not affecting you emotionally and your joy it does so it does affect me emotionally but I don't let

it overtake me you know like when Mike poer was talking about he would see me and it was dark for me that's because I would let something affect me and I would hold on to it and I would be blaming that for next week I'm still blaming that the week after I'm still blaming it three months later all it's because of that you know and it's like I still go through all of these you know life can be like hurtful it could be like getting punched in the face you know what I'm saying and but

the thing is I don't let it linger I still might be heard about something I still may be disappointed but it's like that's the point of it it's like it teaches you something you always learn something from these situations and you come out and realize that okay I'm that was just a moment now I'm on to the next moment you go ahead it's like when you look at the greatest people uh in uh category all right so let's pick like Denzel Washington right so or Will Smith or whoever it's like say they have a awesome

movie and it does well say they have a bad movie and it flops they're not gonna be like I quit it's over for me they gonna be like all right we on to the next one what's the next thing you know and I think that we have to remember that life is just full of all these amazing moments and when you look back on it you'll see the beauty in everything yeah you know absolutely yeah um do you think you can man us do you think you can manifest your dreams from a depressed state energetically

can you manifest your dreams from a depressed state it depends on if the depression fuels you or if it cripples you you know just like stress there's you stress which is a motivating stress and then there's distress which is the stress that makes everything harder and you know so I feel like you can f you can use your you can use any aspect of life as an opportunity to get to where you got to go you know what I mean so I'm sure there has been times where depression has fueled someone I'm sure there been

times where depression has led someone to the end of their life you know obviously and like so on and so forth and everything in between so I do think depression can fuel you fuel you it just depends if you're aware that like okay you know my thing about when you feeling bad or have anxiety or depression to me is awesome indicator that you're just not aligned with what you're supposed to be doing right now so it could be an indication that hey I'm meant for something greater I'm meant for something more I'm meant for something

better as opposed to like life sucks yes you know what I mean yeah or it's also we were talking off camera about how if you're feeling depressed or if you're feeling overwhelmed you may need to look to where you need to create boundaries in your life because when you are giving your energy to so many people without the boundary it's going to make you feel like you don't have anything left to give that b word boundaries baby that b word when did you learn about boundaries in your life did you ever feel like you were

a people pleaser growing up or when you started kind of in your career feeling like you had to do everything for everyone yes they make you feel like that really yeah you know my dad who's in here he's like a real nice guy he's and he he's a real nice guy but he knows that he's let a lot of people walk all over him in a sense not in a bad way that's just his kind natural Spirit he has a kind heart and I have a kind heart in a similar way and one of the

biggest lessons that I learned literally this year for me and I have a song on my last album called Boundaries was set in boundaries because it's uncomfortable sometimes to speak up and say what it is you need you know because it may go against your like what you've been through already it may go against like oh that's not necessarily right or wrong wrong and you realize that right and wrong is kind of more so opinionated in a lot of cases especially when it comes to feelings you know what I mean so for me setting boundaries

has definitely created a lot of Rifts between me and like especially people I grew up with really yeah because you it's it's it's harder to live offs setting boundaries when you've established a relationship already with someone so it's like when you come and say boundaries it's kind of like they looking at you different it's like yo what up with you yeah you're changing who are you yeah and so yeah it has been quite a thing but the people who are meant to be there respect you and understand you and know your heart and they know

that you're doing this out of necessity and that that's the way it has to be what's the hardest boundary you've had to set for yourself this year the hardest boundary I've had to set for myself is the boundary of of not being overwhelmed having to say like yo I can't do that or like I'll take on as much as I can and then be like I need I like hold up I need to I need time for this or if I get back from a trip I know I'm supposed to do this or I have

to get some rest you know um that's wise man even with this interview we were supposed to do it I think on Halloween for whatever reason it was scheduled then and I had to set a boundary because my son is two year was was one years old turning two at the time and and I had to take him trick-or-treating man absolutely I respect I wasn't like m about it but it's like the people when you set a boundary you know people can either be offended or they can understand it yeah you know I understood it

I was like yeah of course I was excited to do it but oh we're going to reschedule it'll happen when it's supposed to happen yeah and that's yeah and that's man that's an important lesson right there it'll happen when it's supposed to happen if it's supposed to it'll happen you know uh and we get caught up in a lot of things not happening on our time and I know a lot of people say God's time and um um Cairo versus just Kronos I believe but it's like I think that um there are a lot of

things that I want to accomplish in my life that I haven't gotten to yet you know that like uh but it's not that it's not like nothing to be like mad about or depressed about or like thinking that you know my life has no value you know even if I hadn't sold one record or anything you know even if I was still just I would still be doing music even if if it was just one of my passions you know what I mean just like how I watch anime I don't get paid to do that

but I take real time and I be watching anime because it's a passion of mine yeah you know so um I don't think that you know when things don't happen on your time that it's necessarily like the end of the world because you it always happens at the time when you need it as opposed to when you want it and sometimes what we want and what we need isn't always at the same time sometimes it is sometimes it's not and it's kind of hard to see you always see things in 2020 hindsight but you know

it's hard as you're going through it and that is one of the biggest lessons I learned this year I'm still learning still applying along with setting boundaries along with the Balan in you know life and and and just like realizing that I I am in control of how I feel you know for sure no matter what you're creating or what's happening you're in control of how you feel speaking of our guy uh poser I'm sure he's going to get a few shout outs here he said that early on when you guys were in your teams

yeah back in Detroit that there was a group called finally famous that it was like five or seven dudes all it was like probably like 11 11 dudes right 11 of you guys just kind of hanging out making music in the basement or people's garages or whatever in rooms yeah it was me and Mike Posen Jay John say aone Brandon Earl Mac Earl Mack uh ad dub key Wayne key Wayne um Pat piff uh and I'm sure like so a probably I'm probably you know coming it's kind like naming every member of the but he

said that you know all those names you mentioned a lot of them have successful careers mostly because of you in some way shape or form and like Posner said that you were the one that welcomed him in the group he came later and you launched a lot of people in some way down the line to having some type of success in their in their life through your influence and I like the first quote that I talked about you were searching for people in your life that could add value to you but also where you could

add value to them absolutely and it sounds like from what he said this group you guys were always talking about manifesting like here's the dream we want with our music yeah your first album was called the same thing as the group right that's right is that interesting that you manifested and you created the thing that you were always cre from that group yeah I had to it it was a representation of a lot more than just like a first album it was like my life up until that point and um yeah I I empowered a

lot of my people around me like my friend Lawrence who just did directed his first movie and he did a lot of my videos you know like I don't with you video and me and Jana I know in 20188 and all these great videos and he's also my son's Godfather he did a video from um a song about my son as well he's into movies now or like Kei Wayne who was in the group is like a like a Allstar Mega producer you know produced for not just me but Beyonce and Drake and Jasmine Sullivan

all these amazing artists and then yeah so you know the list goes on um but it was it meant a lot and you know Mike Posner being one of those guys we used to make music in his basement with his parents you know there and his dad ended up getting brain cancer and died pretty like it was a very like quick thing um relatively and I remember when I had Coachella and I brought him out at at my Coachella performance and we I felt the energy of his dad I felt his the spirit of his

dad cuz it was such a uh his dad had such a warm welcoming Spirit almost like Angelic already while he was alive and just him and his mom um you know his dad and his his mom both so it was really a it was a full circle moment yeah to be on that stage together like that and it was like one of the biggest shows in my career really yeah it was like a huge crowd it was like me and Harry Styles had like this split Coachella literally evenly at that moment while we were performing

it was amazing it was amazing spiritual experience I love that yeah Coachella in Ohio State spiritual experience you know there's there's another great quote that I saw this you know as you started to kind of build your career in chapter eight of your book called hitting a wall uh and the five St the five strategies are accepting strategizing trying trusting and manifesting but at the the start of this chapter I think you share a story that everyone needs to hear because most people don't know what it's like being on top or accomplishing all of their

wildest dreams and you say the most depressed I ever got was in 17 until then the worst period was when I got signed and then nothing happened for me for more than a year but this time everything was happening for me so I found it incredibly confusing that I was so unhappy you said I was rich and famous my career was going great and I was on tour I had everything I ever wanted essentially but nothing ever felt like enough and you talk about the pain of this situation and I think there's a great quote

by Jim CL uh I've always wanted to interview him so I love this quote where he's like I hope I wish everyone would get rich and famous and realize it's not the the key to happiness kind of paraphrasing it yeah but you were that you would accomplished kind of like you got to work with every artist you were doing music with everyone sold a 100 million you know records by then you were crushing it y but you weren't happy yes why and then part two everyone thinks they're going to be happy and fulfilled when they

become rich and famous mhm but that didn't seem like it's the case well you got to remember that like I said earlier in this interview everything is separate and you don't realize that so you think that things come with other things so you're thinking that because you have money or because you know you living in Beverly Hills and you know you got all these things that the happiness equates to that now I'm not saying I'm not about to be one of these people that has you know that has made money and be like Oh money

doesn't buy you happiness money money is a an amazing resource and it can make you happy temporarily what I mean by that is it's a dopamine hit so it's like yeah getting money is awesome and it can make you happy but you realize that there's a lot of other things in life that has to deal with you know to deal with that's why you see you know that's you look at um people who committed suicide who were on top of the world you know um Chester to you know people who ow D to you know

it's like you can't be the you think you're like the lead singer of Nana or something and then you commit suicide or you know Lincoln Park or all the anybody or let me just not even use them as an example I'm sure there are tons of people right who are in that type of uh have reached a wild level of success and choose to end your life right so you realize that those things are not the same thing now that doesn't mean that you shouldn't like if you want money you shouldn't go after getting money

I think that's important if that's like something that your hard desires I know I wanted to and I probably didn't understand if somebody who has made millions of dollars say oh money isn't everything it's like mother it is everything like it'll change my whole situation yeah but my what what I realized in that situation for me personally is that that had nothing to do with how I felt and it's because one I was abusing I feel like I was abusing Aderall at the time and Aderall is you know they don't tell you that but it's

really synthetic her heroin and all sorts of craziness there's just a lot to that a lot of layers to that right so I was taking that type of stuff I was not taking care of myself physically you know I was super skinny at the time too I was like Mal nourished I was high a lot you know uh I was drunk sometime a lot of times not all the time but like a very occasional Drinker not just like I wasn't drinking every night but like every time there was a function you know I would abuse

it not abuse it but I would indulge in it sure so all of those things add up and they have a longterm effect on your brain they have a long-term effect on the dopamine your brain creates that leads to your creativity it leads to your happiness it leads to your living a you know your mind my dad said on my album dark sky Paradise your mind can be a trickster and it'll make you really believe that you aren't that you aren't meant to live you know it make you really feel like you're not who you

are really you know what I mean sure and so at that point in my life I was confused I had put my I had my head down and was working working working so much that I had to be on Aderall working so much that I had to go from one thing to the next thing to the next thing to the next thing without doing satisfying myself first by like doing what what makes me happy you know like I let go of all of my passions that I loved I let go of no free time it's

like this is the time to get money you know we come from a place like Ohio right or Detroit or like you know the Midwest in general where when you get an opportunity it's like you got to take advantage of it you got to keep your foot on their neck you got to like keep your foot on the gas like you don't let up like don't let the opportunity pass and you kind of take that idea and it's implanted in you and it's one of those things that you just like move forward with right and

you take it with you and you're like I got to do this I got to do that I gotta do that I gotta do that or else I'm G to fall off and and go back to be irrelevant or something yeah whatever or just go back to living with you know it's like you create these stories like I'm going to go back to living where I grew up at right like for me I grew up in I grew up in the hood and like I remember when I was analyzed it I'm GNA go back to

the point where I analyzed like yeah what if everything didn't work out and I moved back to the hood I was happy there too like I figure it out still like you know what I mean so I'm not scared of that like you can't let anything you can't live a fear-based life for sure you know so point being is that you know when I when I realized that all of those things weren't separate I knew I had to make a change and I just quit doing everything you know I quit I like canceled everything I

had to do canceled everything that I had coming up and I was like I got to figure out why I feel like this interesting and it took a long time and somehow the universe was blessing me still like I never like was really low on money or low like the universe was providing its means for me to figure it out and that's how I knew it was in alignment with what I needed to do wow you know it's hard to say no to money sometimes and big opportunities though right it is got this artist or

this person or this TV show that wants to do something with you and you say no yeah but that's a lot of power too it is a lot of power and yeah because you're not coming from a place of scarcity mhm you know your your character your person comes first you you got to know the order of operations you know what I'm saying and you're at the top of that so yeah it's great you know there are times where my team looked at me like yo you passed up on this amount of money because you

were I was like yeah I was exhausted and I was this and I had to be here for my son and I had to do that and more will come I believe in that I really truly do and it does yes so you have to have that faith in yourself you have to have that invisible Bridge below you and know that you're going to walk across it and get to the other side you're not going to fall flat on your face did you ever have a scarcity mindset and if so how did you learn to

switch it into an abundance mindset yes I I really feel like that I talk about that on a song I have called Break the cycle with Charlie Wilson um produced by my boy Leon Thomas and I say like one of the Cycles I broke in my family is the illusion of scarcity cuz it really is an illusion and you could be like no one came you know I'm not I didn't have any type of Advantage coming into the world you know necessarily like I didn't have like any padding financially I didn't have anything like I

did have a grandma who worked real hard who was a female black Captain in World War II and then she was a one of the first female cops in Detroit and then a teacher and a counselor was a historical woman and she did all these amazing things and she worked her off to give us a great you know the best life that she could provide her and my granddad um but we still financially had a lot of troubles you know so I think it was something that a lot of us get taught early like oh

money's hard to come by that's a concept that's not really true even the concept of man playing video games is a waste of your time it's one playing video games Millions right B yeah tens of millions hundreds of millions of dollars it's like that really in hindsight teaches you that just do what you love there's a there's a audience pull and a necessity for anything especially if your heart is attached to it so my thing is I had to over time just make an agreement with God that I'll never have to worry about that that

meaning like like I I'll always get provided was what I need I'm I'm as long as I'm operating from my heart and am a and am of service and that's what then then that's I always have all that I need period I love this man everything you're saying is resonating with me and there's so many questions I want to ask you about that but before I do in chapter 4 again we're talking about your book going higher uh this is a game changer make sure you guys get a copy in chapter before you talk about

the fluidity fluidity of Fortune and how you had to really unlearn some of these things about money I'm curious then how did you learn to reprogram your subconscious mind to manifest money more when you weren't taught that thing those things early on man this I have to give it up to deepo Chopra because the seven spiritual Laws of Success such a good book that that actually was the first book that broke down money as an energy and when I first when I read it I was like what and he was just saying just like anything

like you can attract it it's magnetic so you could really be a magnet for whatever it is your after in life and that includes money isn't off the table you know so one of the things that I had to adopt is that there's enough money for everyone to go around you don't have to look at it as like a you're in a desert and there's like a glass of water and you have to you know it's not like that money is getting printed every single day when did you learn this how old were you like

what was when I first read that book I was 17 I believe so that's when I was like okay I tried to like obviously I didn't have a dollar to my name so I mean besides the $20 I would give for allowance every week for doing chores and stuff but like and when did you first put it into practice you you learned this New Concept it was something completely new money's all around me right I had to learn the concept from experience and how did you put it into practice where you said oh it's actually

real what this means at first it was like hold on to your money hold on to it right it's like that's like the thing you can get your money hold on to it and it's like I remember when I got my first Advance check for $155,000 and I took my girlfriend to get ice cream and it went down to$ 14,970 and I was like like it's going away yeah it's like you felt it and like that the the reason that it felt like that is cuz that's not in alignment with how it should be you

know I really feel like that like it feels good when you can like provide and like you know because you you are you are you're like a vessel man and it's like whatever you choose to activate and by the way my life now doesn't go exactly how I always wanted to go I don't like there are times where like things happen and I be like I this is not how I wanted this to go this is not how I wanted it to happen but then you just got to move on man and just go to

the next thing but my point is is when I started when I started to implement that was around the time like I said around 19 when I got my first Advanced check and then like every time that I was like oh wait it's getting low some there's always an opportunity for something else to to to figure your way and that's that's when you do right by yourself and when you do right by you know everyone around you and when you empowering people when you trying to like just be who you are meant to be the

best you it's like things I promise you is going it's going to happen for you so when you get money now and when you're when money comes in and when money comes out how does it feel for you emotionally when you receive and spend money lately I need to I told myself like I need to be a little more grateful for the money that does come in I've kind of have gotten like okay cool used to okay this oh we got that check okay cool oh that came in that that deposit hit and I don't

I told myself like I by the way I do affirmations every day so it's like I'm grateful as one of them I'm thankful for my life and every aspect of it like but I do want to just put I do want the god to know because I always like to think that God gives us everything we need right and and like and a lot of times what we want as well especially when it aligns with what we need and of the things that I want is money right so and when it comes in I shouldn't

just pretend like it's supposed to be like that I should really acknowledge it and be grateful for it more so I've actually and that kind of comes with just having a busy schedule I'm still a new dad in a sense I'm still you know a lot I have a lot of hats as a person and you kind of like lose the importance of a lot of things so I've been I've been meaning to like really Moment by moment be grateful you know what I mean there's an amazing book called Happy Money by Ken Honda I

think you would like it where he says uh it's it's about the Japanese art around money and when I had him on the show it really helped me fortify my abundance mindset around money and he said when money comes to me I don't care if it's a penny or a million dollars or anywhere in between I say thank you to that money thank you to the dollar thank you to the $20 thank you to the money I found in the streets thank you to the million-dollar check thank you yeah and I say thank you where

do you want to go and it says where do you want to go now do you want to go to my bank account and sit there for a while do you want to go into the stock market do you want to go into this business deal do should I give this to someone for free like where do you want to go and he says when we look at it his energy and his abundance and we are appreciating it it appreciates and value it does and we don't hold on to it but we say where do

you want to go because I know More's coming to me oh I'm I'mma use that where do you want to goow it flows man that gave me goosebumps man cuz everything has a life to it even like making music it's like I I sometimes like when I'm on a beat I ask myself like okay what does this song want to be where does you know what what do you want me to say on it and sometimes I'll get it then and that that should go for everything and I I do have a very like diverse

portfolio when it comes to like finances and stuff like I do have like stuff in the stock market Market stuff in crypto real estate um I invested in businesses that worked and didn't work you know I've made money off some um what's the best investment you've ever made in your life best investment I've ever made in my life currently probably the return was probably Bitcoin I ain't G to lie I also invested in Uber which has kind of been a long play I kind of got in a little bit late with Uber but I think

one day it's going to pay off but really the whole point of my portfolio is to pass on to my kid I have one out or my kids you know what's the best investment you've made in yourself probably spending all my money on Studio sessions growing up that was probably the best investment yet because it was it it trained me to like be in a studio be on a mic to write music you know and I've written music for like not just myself but I've also written some stuff for other people like I've written stuff

for Jana I've written stuff for I I got to write with um Anderson pack and Bruno Mars and like some other people um obviously for yay as well like I've gotten a chance to like be a writer in that sense not just for myself and not like I'm not saying I wrote like people's albums I'm talking about just slightly contribute as a writer investing in that just early on you know being 11 years old 12 years old in the studio what's the best investment you can make in yourself today that you haven't spent the money

on yet that time is the most valuable currency that you can spend and you can't get back you know that's the biggest investment is to put time into something you know um that is you know what you put time into um is worth more than anything because it can bring you you know all these things can be a byproduct of it like money or happiness or you know impacting someone's life which is the main goal is to really impact someone else you know to be of service and you let you let the the laws of

the universe apply to you you know and it comes back to you in a way you may not expect but I I think that when we realize how interconnected we all are when we realize how you take away the singularity of a job The Singularity of a house you live in the singularity and then you go within and you realize that not only are we all operating on the same system we all are very much so alike and everything that's alive everything that's flowing in nature every animal everything it's like we all come from this

certain energy that we all are empowered from and we're all are made from it's like the some people call it Prana some people call it love some people call it whatever it is you want to call it we all when you boil it down through all the layers we all are interconnect connected and you see it you see it as examples like for instance when we're in traffic and everyone's moving at the same pace and like stops at the same time and this and you see it's like you see us even during the pandemic everyone

shut down it's like you see how we all operate when it's when when you take away all the layers we all have to operate on the same wavelength and um it goes deeper than that but you know invest investing time to me is something that we all have right now um some people have more time than others yeah and that that is probably the greatest investment you mentioned a little bit earlier about how when you had everything but you also felt I don't want to say everything I think I labeled it as everything but I

didn't have everything it wasn't like Thanos with the rings on when you have when you had okay when you had everything that probably your 18-year-old self had dreamed of yeah that's right Rich famous on tour working with every big artist that you would you know you were looked up to all that stuff um all the money you could ever dream of you know it's like everything playing in front of soldout Arenas and you weren't feeling good you mentioned how you were doing you know drugs alcohol weed things like this and people and people made it

to seem regular but yeah go ahead you know that's not regular where do you feel like your frequency was when you were doing drugs alcohol weed versus when you're not doing that I don't really get like blasted anymore so I'm trying to remember how that was my frequency I was happy at the time I was definitely happy but I don't know it's like like I said it's not the same as like a high off a life feeling you know it's not the same it's like synthetic yeah versus the real thing you know what I I've

never been drunk or high in my life Wow and I played college football so I was always at like the the fra party type of stuff and uh so I never knew what that's like to be drunk or high it's kind of embarrassing I'm not going to lie but every time I'd go to the parties everyone was like I can't you have to drink you have to drink it was like very forceful like you have to drink and I was like I can get high on life I don't need this or I can have a

Sprite or whatever or just like some people may think that sounds cliche or corny or whatever but I I feel like it's the the natural high of just I love my life I'm grateful to be here all these different things I could get to that space so I never felt like I needed the alcohol or something to get there so I don't know what it's like but is the frequency different when you're high or Dr let me tell you something so I I stopped drinking for like years and stuff and like so when I'm at

an event and I see everyone drunk around me it's so funny to see people high and drunk and you're like straight sober yeah and um the frequency obvious yes obviously it's is tremendously different but it just also is like you don't need to be have you it's like the frequency matches the environment too so it's like you may not have to be like at a high frequency when you're in the middle of a club and you just want to get drunk and you know it's it's uh I do think that like the long-term effects of

like you know I've had friends that was Alcoholics I've seen it ruin people's lives I've seen it like ruin I've seen people not be able to you know it affects a lot of things it doesn't just affect your body physically it alcohol affects your brain for like weeks after months after years after and same well like especially these pills and things like that so I would I would also say it affects your soul I think it affects your soul too so yeah I do think that um 100% I do think that the frequency is not

the same as when you're like for instance sobering your high experience and high off life which I've experienced and that's can't beat that you know why you can't beat it because you are the drug it's not like you're taking something to feel the effects of it it's like you are the source of it so it's like you are creating the high yes you know and like you're in alignment with what is going on in the world so it's like you can't beat that let's go you can't even buy that you know what I'm saying you

can buy the other can't buy that and you have to tap into something deeper to create it exactly you have to tap into that ultimate power within you to create it yeah and you know when you when you say like you have to tap into it I think people get a sense like it's a lot of work or it's like very hard and I'm not saying it is or it isn't it can be more work for everyone is different everyone's on their own path but it doesn't take much it really just takes being real with

yourself and finding out what works for you to be able to tap into the life that you deserve that you you can experience and really en enjoy you know but it starts within that's the point enjoy enjy I like that yeah do you do you smoke or drink a lot right now or not at all not at all not at all no adol no no no no drug no weed na why did you decide you know when you were making money and doing drugs and everything was working out why did you decide now not to

be on drugs or alcohol well I'm still making money so that that's that's another thing like those have nothing to do with each other you know what I'm saying there are there are people who are on all those type of things that are way richer than me but that don't mean they more successful than me people tie all these things together they be like oh because you got 50 million do you think you're more successful than me it's like that has nothing to do with it that's just a concept that we tied to that you

know that just means you have more money than me that's all that means is that you have more money that don't mean that like you get to me holding my baby that's Su like me going trick ortreat with my son that's success yeah that's that's successful that didn't cost me hardly anything so it's like you what is people tying everything together and you're going to be a victim of uh these conditional things like thinking that money is Success now success brings does bring money success also brings a lot of other things success can can bring

but it's not that and that's what I mean by like separating it all you know what I mean so I don't I didn't I didn't tie like you know I I used to I used to be like oh this is the reason why I'm successful is cu I'm taking this atall you know yeah and then that's when I realized I had a problem when I would go to the studio and I couldn't do the studio without taking it so that's when I I had to check myself and be like no you know like that this

don't this isn't right like this is I'm here falling apart thinking thinking that I don't have what it takes when I I'm the one who got myself here you know 100% did you ever make agreements with God yes I talk about that in the book as well I made agreements with God about one of the agreements I made is that like we talked about financial I don't want this to be like a big Financial episode but one of the agreements I made is that yeah I always you know well when my son was born I

made an agreement to be the best dad I could be you know um another agreement was that um when I'm pursuing you know my passion or my purpose or having my heart in the right place that I never have to worry like I always have the means needed you know no matter what that's an agreement I made I never I never have to worry about about money or whatever it is you know that has to do deal with that and there are some other ones that are like kind of a little more personal sure yeah

no worries but I mean those are very person too especially my son is as personal as a get but yeah what was this moment like or moments like where you said God I'm going to make an agreement with you and did you hear anything in in return I got feel like God talks to you in a lot of ways it's not always where you hear it in that sense sometimes you feel it and feeling it is like hearing it you know um like Goosebumps when you get goosebumps and you know whatever it is you know

or something happens in synchronicity with that there was one time in my life where I heard the voice of God though one time uh and it wasn't when I was like meditating it wasn't when I was like you know I've done like intense meditations like on top of mountains and you know or like wasn't when I was like peaceful on a walk it was when I was like it was between it was like late at night or early in the morning rather and I heard it's really so personal I don't even know if I want

to share it all the way um I definitely heard the voice of God and it said something that reson it was a voice I never heard before that sounded so familiar and um it's giving me goosebumps man uh it was like very real and I knew exactly what it was it wasn't like what like I wasn't dreaming I was very conscious I heard it twice and and I got a message and then I was like what and then I got it again and I and it was very loving but it was very um heavy and

it was very like present it was very clear wow I know was it giving you wisdom or guidance is just kind of like an affirmation from for you to to remember something about yourself or yeah it was like definitely um it was like just part it just was personal that related to me you know and it's something that I'll always remember and always apply and is that when you said I'm going to make an agreement with you no that was another time so no when I said in agreement you know God is something you feel

more so than something that is like you see even though this is all Testament to God me us being able to talk communicate it's all a miracle it's all a miracle it's all a miracle yeah you know you realize that because yeah like we we get so desensitized so we're used to life until we aren't here no more you know you got to remember so one of the things having a kid taught me is like the sperm and the Egg you're you're fighting impossible eyes it's like the eyes are like a million times crazier than

winning the Mega Millions that are billions you know it's like crazy astronomical odd that you beat to get here that you fight through that you get to and and then you're the one that makes it into this into this a right the one out of all these hundreds of billions of that's crazy so you got to realize that on a level we probably we fought to be here you this is something this is a privilege to be here for real not just saying that trying to sound like positive it's really a privilege to be in

this like for real and you have to understand that you know we uh we we circum ourselves and get used to this life but it's miraculous every day you see it it's like we see the sun give life to all of these things we see how everything works in such a A system that if one thing was off if the sun was a little bit closer if the moon was a little bit closer we wouldn't be able to survive if the temperature was a little different if you know Earth could survive but we couldn't survive

so you got to understand that we're here for a reason if you're on Earth you're here for for a reason it ain't doesn't mean you're meant to be the president of the United States or whatever because we think oh that's a reason worth living no your reason could be to impact somebody your reason to be could be to enjoy the beauty of life that's a reason and that's fine you know what I'm saying so um I know we got a little bit off topic but you know I think one of the things that people should

keep in perspective of like yo we here and is this is this we in it right now right like we're lit right now like we're in it you know right for sure yeah there two things we were talking about one you heard you heard God's voice a couple of times when you heard God speak to you did something in your life start to change did you do things differently did you make other agreements with yourself on how you're going to live your life or did you just remind you about what you're supposed to do next

well I really appreciate you bringing that up because you reminded it's like I love getting reinforcement it's all synchronicities man it is I'm as meant to I was meant to hear that you know today because it's like yeah I got to remember that that what I was told that day you know you don't have to tell me or us but yeah it wasn't like the deepest thing it's just stuff is personal and it's like you know you got to like hold on to some stuff share 100 yeah but more like what did it tell you

without telling us what it said but what what did you feel you were meant to do with that information what I'm doing not be quiet not trying to be too cool you know share share what I have to offer and be and be of service and you know have fun also you know that's those are the things that I got from what I heard that's cool yeah so when was this is this years ago no this was like a year ago probably yeah as of recent after after my son was born yeah after he was

born which that's a real Miracle right there no wow having a kid or like by the way it's very very um it's a lot more than you could do you have kids or no not yet but we're oh yeah okay St it's a lot more than you could imagine um my hats go off especially to moms and mothers um what's the best thing about being a dad for yourself I love being a dad I'm a I'm not just a father I'm a dad too so i' be like bads diapers this that spending time playing like

I don't play about like when it comes to that with my with my son because you know one of the coolest things like having my dad around is I I could talk to him in a in a different manner now I kind of understand him differently and there are times where I have other things to do and I'll put things off that are important sometimes for my for my son you know and I remember I said man it's crazy he's one years old he's not even going to remember this and my dad was like yeah

his his DNA is going to remember it though that hit me like a lightning bolt you know what I'm saying it was like like yeah he may not like his he might not have a memory of it but his DNA is going to is so knowledgeable that he'll remember it and and like your guys's bond is going to his your bond is going to outlive his memory you you know what I'm saying like for as long as he remember he's going to have a bond with his it's not like you meet somebody and go on

a date and it's like oh you're you're great like let's be friends or you know whatever it's like no he's gonna that's that is like you're setting up the building blocks in him and that's when I was like this is always productive W always productive I was asking your dad uh beforehand when you left the room for a minute and I was like what's the thing that you're inspired by the most about your son oh what did he say and he said that you treat everyone as if they're special whether they're someone or they're nobody

you treat everyone with kindness respect generosity and you have a big heart and you want to serve people and I thought that was really cool to have your dad say that about you um what's the thing that inspires you the most about your dad oh man his heart you know I talked about it he has such a a giving heart such a um he's a he has a pure like soul to me and he was just a caring he did he he was caring and like one of the things I vividly remember growing up was

like our rides to school I like how real he kept it with me I like like just how like like that's how I learned about like the birds and the bees with my dad like I just appreciated him like really just keeping it real with me and also like you know we would do like a word of the day sometimes on the way to schol you know so he was a um special guy and I feel like he he he like approached everything with love you know and I appreciated that I I saw an interview

online I don't know who who this was but I saw a clip of an older man who had billions of dollars successful entrepreneur and someone asked him like what his definition of success was he's probably in his 70s and he said my adult children wanted to hang out with me today that's success right that was success for him yeah not the be not the bee he had in his account exactly but like that my adult kids wanted to spend time with me not for my money but they genuinely loved me and they wanted to hang

out and it sounds like I don't it seems that way I just met you guys both recently but it seems like you know you guys are hanging out together and it's yeah that's got to feel good for both of you you know it is you know life is short man and a lot of people don't have good relationships with their parents and then there's you know traumas and challenges so and I'm not saying you guys have a perfect relationship but it seems like and to that to that point I do feel like we get I

believe this you you can argue with me all day I do feel like we get to we choose our parents coming into this world so what that means is some people might be like oh I hate my mom like I did not choose her for my mom right or like I hate my dad right but my thing is is like it goes back to the concept of God don't give you what you want God gives you what you need like say if we hear the progress our souls if we're here to to uh learn you

we don't know what it's like to learn on a soul level that's something that the experience is can only teach you and the person you're you're uh sculpted to be that comes from experiences right so sometimes people learn from having great parents or whatever or great role models in their life to be like them and some some people even learn better from not what to be and some people realize later on the lessons that they're taught from dealing with things that they did not want to go through you know because it may switch a whole

something around or it may Inspire something or we never know what we never know really we can make these assumptions and plans and God gonna laugh at us because it's like it's never it's never as L near as we think it is all the time you know 100% yeah uh on page 93 of your book you say make three agree make three agreements with the universe write them down and sign your name underneath with the words so be it yeah why do you like that practice and why why do you recommend people making three agreements

with the universe well I just chose the number three because that's a good number to me like you could do 10 if you want or you could do one if you want or you know I just chose like three just to get your mind going but I signed it at the bottom because to me it's like a contract you know it's like that's how I sign my business deals I sign it at the bottom I put the so be it there because that's like a declaration that's like you like that's like you activating it to

me you know it's like you sign it and then you hit it with a so bit like or it is or it is done you know to me it's like I don't want people to think that's like witchy or anything like that is not to me to me it's more like it's more so like business that's how business may be operating they signing that signature right there they are you know so it's making it a stronger bond with energy God the universe with your des and that's how serious you taking it you're taking it serious

enough to write it down sign your name letting know who it's from and and solidifying it so that's how I look at it something I did in my early 20s was when I was broke I was living on my sister's couch in in Columbus Ohio and um Columbus SE bus baby the greatest performance of your life life was in Columbus I like that I don't know about the greatest one ever but it was a good one it was a good one yeah um but I was in a dark phase for about a year and a

half and I was uh trying to figure out how to develop self-worth I was playing arena football and I was chasing the NFL dream I got injured I was never good enough to make it but I I lived my dream in terms of getting paid 250 bucks a week to catch a football and play in front of audiences for me that was like part of the dream as a kid I got injured on my sister's couch for a year and a half and I realized my ego was much bigger than my selfworth and I thought

I had things figured out but I really had no skills besides catching a football and I was actually a scared little boy inside and I remember thinking of these things I was like what is the goal and the dream I want to accomplish I would write these things down and I would create a certificate of achievement I would write the go down with the dates I wanted to accomplish it and I would sign it and frame it and hang it on my wall and that gave me something to look at every single day and I

said who's the man I need to become in order to accomplish this I have low selfworth I'm in a lot of self-doubt and fears I need to go conquer these fears and develop these skills to accomplish this dream has there ever been a time in your life where you felt low selfworth and if so how did you learn to develop more worthiness for yourself has there ever been a time you had low selfworth that I had low selfworth yeah yeah of course I'm human man like I think we all go through those times where we

kind of like doubt ourselves question ourselves like yeah like when you're especially when you're after something or when you know you like when you know you can do better which is a lot of us we know we feel like we could do better we feel like we're Made for More or we get that confus well well maybe we don't know that but we get confused of like feeling bad and wondering why you feel bad it's like if you realize that like you're an antenna and like you're like a like it's like tuning the radio station

if it's off you're going to you're not going to get the message so like those times are meant for you to just like fine-tune yourself and get on the right frequency so you could really get to where you need to be right the ego part that you were talking about your ego was bigger than your selfworth to me a lot of people say you need to kill your ego blah blah blah right to me I feel like your ego is a part of you you can't really kill a part of you you got work with

your ego and you got to like be like ego yourself as all of these different things you know you're like a mental person spiritual emotional physical then there's like the ego that's a part of it right and then there's like your heart that's a part of it your gut all these things I feel like are like the makings of like it's like a team of you that lives in this one being your soul right I feel like you can't just let let your ego be in the driver seat all the time there are times where

it needs to be in a driver's seat where it's like oh the cameras are on you what you going to do like that's times where it's like ego like we about to I'm never you know but you know but to me as far as that goes um those are just the learning experiences that only life could teach you man you know like you go through those moments and they make you who you are it's like you wouldn't be who you are if you didn't have that time where you slept on your sister's couch in Columbus

that's true man you know what I mean and the the willingness to want to do better that's like it's different if you were satisfied with that if you were like this is it this is this is good this is what life is but you weren't and I think that's something to really Embrace is that willingness to want to do better and I know it hurts to people out there I know it hurts it could be you could want to take your life over it you know um you could want to like just give up and

be a terrible person to people but I'm telling you man and that's like it's just all part of it and nothing lasts forever even if things do last a long time nothing lasts forever so that's true embrace it let that be your fuel Let It Be Your Fire you know I can't give you the directions on how to be successful I can only show you what has worked for me in some situations or you know you can only tell us what has worked for you in some situations and you apply it to yourself but you

do got can 100% know that you got what What It Takes I'm going to look at every camera You Got What It Takes You Got What It Takes You Got What It Takes I promise you in your book we're talking about go higher which is a powerful book um you mentioned that some of the early books that you got into The Four Agreements the secret I I got to interview Ronda burn the creator of the secret a couple of times and it was really powerful she talked about the law of attraction manifestation I'm curious what

is your formula for manifestation in the log of attra pass for you is there a definition for you is there a a code for you on how to manifest better there have been times where I've attempted to manifest things and it didn't happen and there are times where it did happen and then there are times where it happens at a time where I didn't expect it to happen and there and then there are times where it's like oh I put that you know I let I I let that go and it ended up coming to

fruition so everything is different um but for me what works is like just having Clarity on it and being realistic with myself or embracing the unrealistic 185 million records is kind of unrealistic to think about it's unrealistic right if you're but it feels realistic to me though you made it real yeah but if you're 18 and thinking I'm gonna sell almost 200 million records like Is that real is that realistic it's kind of an unrealistic thought it is I guess at that time of life but then oh I sold a 100 million well that's just

CU you may not be there that yet yeah yeah exactly you know we kind of sometimes that's kind of like where anxiety and depression comes from is that we try and like put ourselves forward in our story and then by the time you get there you be like oh this is it like it's like it's it's natural right so it's like and sometimes that anxiety and all of that like looking forward to something it can hold you back from just naturally being like look it's going to happen when it happens I'm going be ready and

you know everyone's situation is different so that mean it could be like say you fail the bar exam five times like it's like you're gonna you're not going to go your whole life failing the bars in you're gonna eventually get it because your preparation is going to meet the opportunity as long as you are being aware as long as you are being like okay this that's probably where I messed up at let me really do my you know the time you put in is never wasted you feel what I'm saying so um yeah going back

to Posner uh I I said what else about ban that that really inspired you and he said during that time uh when he was glowing he talked about a book called ask and it is given that's one of the ones by Esther and Jerry Hicks the teaches of Abraham shout out Esther and Jerry Hicks and deac and um what did that book quell yeah they're all great I love all those books what did did that book though teach you or what did it say for you about your life ask and it is given ask and

it is given taught me to um I guess it taught me to manifest things by putting yourself on the frequency of whatever it is you're Desiring you know I don't I don't remember what book taught me the I try not to say want so much when it relates to the things that I really want in life because I don't like a in the lack of so much so I like there's something out there that you want to create though yeah so I'll say I desire it it's my desire you know I want it it's like

I I'll say I want sometimes like I want some pizza I want that things that I know are obtainable but for sometimes when it's really one of those main goals I don't like to say I want to be I like to say like um I can't wait until or like I desire My you know it's one of I desire that or I don't know why that's just a personal this is really interesting you're saying this because I think a lot of people I think we need to talk about this for a moment because words matter

words do matter and how you desire or want something puts you on a different frequency level how you speak the word yes the frequency for me that's what it is so if you say I'm lacking something so therefore I want it based on how I'm interpreting you're saying this you feel more separate from that thing that you want to create and draw closer to you like an example is like I want that new bans and the example is like man it's going to feel good when I get that new bans man like it's GNA feel

it's it's it's like when I like it's gonna be like man I can't wait to rock like it's like you know um I don't even like using can either like I'm excited about the new Bins cuz it's mine it's just a matter of when yeah it's a matter of when so it puts you into more of an abundance frequency versus scarcity or lack frequency so that's what uh asking it as given taught me by Str Jerry Hicks it taught me to be on a put yourself on the frequency and just see how life changes for

you you know I can't guarantee everything you ever want will happen but I can guarantee that it will while life will change if you really practice putting yourself on that frequency and keeping yourself there as much as you can because it's hard it's a lot of work man and I don't do like life isn't meant to just be work every day you know these are it's not you're not like we're not in school all day long to like manifest our goals it's like you have to find what works for you some people prefer therapy Some

people prefer yoga Some people prefer meditation Some people prefer writing things down Some people prefer saying them out loud some people it's like you got to find what really works for you and like see what how it goes how do you balance taking action to create what you want versus attracting and allowing it to come to you I feel like you do always have to be proactive and you realize that you know I feel like you put your attention on your intention you're proactive meaning that you take action and um then you also have to

be able to let it go gosh it's so hard for people holding on to some holding on to it's like it's like you got to let it go and have that trust you know and you're in the middle of trust you are in the middle of trust so you have to trust yourself that that's your whatever your process is you know uhhuh yeah it's hard to trust though heck yeah you want to create it now and when you feel a lack you feel separate you're like how do I make it happen now I know I

know it can be hard I don't agree with you because that's a concept that I don't want to like take on I don't think that it's hard to trust for I'm saying for some people it's hard y it is it is yeah for sure it is and it has been hard for me a lot of times in my life what's the thing that you've desired the most that took you the longest to attract or actualize or create in your life that you had to trust the longest definitely being I've started rapping when I was 11

years old so I didn't get a record deal until I was 19 is 20 19 or 20 so that's probably the longest one but when it comes to like numbers and sales and stuff those that's all beautiful you know what I'm saying but that is just like it's so momentary moment it's so moment it's just that is what it is so it's like you that's something you can't control meaning all the way you can you can put your energy on it you can put your intention and your attention and it may go the way you

want it may do better it may do worse but that's something that's out of your control if of is how people consume your art the real win is that you got to make it the real win is that you got to create it and that's then that's the win already and putting it out in the universe yeah so it's like all the other stuff is like sprinkles on top it's awesome it's great success can be like I feel like that's a can be a part of someone's success is like uh achieving the goals that they

wanted to achieve on a project and but like I said when that doesn't happen which that's happened to me there have been times where I've sold records on the album not sold as many as I would like to and so on and so forth and it's just you got to just go keep going and and and have fun with it you know what I mean yeah sometimes like sometimes you get to take things too serious and it's like you know you realize that you already want by getting it to do what you love to do

100% like I said if like you look at anyone else like you think Will Smith gonna be down and out there his movie didn't do as well as he wanted then the next one does amazing and then the next one doesn't and the next one does like these people it's like we get to you know they to be art artist yeah you know like every every van go wasn't though vano you know what I mean it's like every piece is like that's that's one thing and that's the beauty of it that's really the beauty of

it man you got a whole chapter in your book about therapy I'm curious what is the thing that therapy taught you the most and what is the healing that you've created for yourself that has given you the most Peace and Freedom therapy was is a way of um being able to communicate things you know therapy has a way of being able to communicate things that you wouldn't normally talk about things that you wouldn't normally touch on with a friend or family member necessarily or may not be as deep in that sense you know so to

me therapy was just a great way to unpack certain things and you know communication I said this before like communication is the bridge to Salvation that God is holding our hand to walk across and just like any Bridge you can't skip a step to get to the other side so it's like when you are in therapy you it is really uncovering so many amazing uh uh and hurtful and emotional things about yourself but it really helps so many aspects of your life man it really can help you unpack things it can help you um it

can help you let go of things it could help you forgive someone that you've been holding on to and that stuff just like it takes up real estate in your mind body and soul you know and that may could be holding you back from something really truthfully um there are a lot of things that I've had to clear in my life you know likey yeah there are a lot of like mindsets a lot of Concepts that I used to believe that I had to communicate and realize that that is not the truth and you know

I learned from one of my um mentors a while ago uh Christy Sheldon I haven't talked her in years but one of the things she used to do is like when you have a concept of something that you've been applying in your life she would say whatever whatever whatever it is delete destroy uncreate and transmute across all time space di mention in realities it is done like wow done it's over with it's behind you now and sometimes you have to say it like more than once but yeah like I definitely there was so I don't

even I can't even remember because I've G I'm over removed them I removed it but there have been times where I've had to say that multiple times in my life and that I still do to this day as well like if there's something that is like striking me and like I have to delete destroy on Create and transmute that across all time space Dimension and realities wow that's powerful man that's a good kind of like Mantra to reinforce with yourself what would you say is the biggest mental block that you've had to let go of

to create more abundance in your life I deserve it that's one of the things is like you thinking you're not worthy like you said to create more abundance and to create more whatever it is you're after in life you can I guess abundance is a good word to label whatever it is you're after is to um Empower yourself and know you do deserve it you know and that may like that's one of the things that like therapy that's one of the things that for me meditating or just like or just reminding myself who I am

you know I'm not better than anyone but I deserve whatever it is I desire that's just that's a fact that's really a fact you know what I mean so once you get rid of those Concepts and of uh thinking you you know how can you be happy you don't have something when you don't think you deserve it how do people who feel very anxious depressed stressed out overwhelmed life's just not going their way going through a breakup going through trauma they feel like everything is against them how do they learn that everything is actually in

their favor and that they are deserving of abundance yeah that's kind of what this whole book is like not the whole book but that's kind of like what I try it's it's it's uh first of all I got to acknowledge that you're not alone we've all have been there we've all have been there where we the world was against us and one bad thing happens after another and you're like well the I guess I'm not meant to be doing this or I guess this is like you know where you it's brought you to tears or

brought you you know um and the best part about those moments is it teaches you something new about yourself but it also is is temporary then you could use that for fuel to your fire and also you have to make a switch in your mind you have to realize what you're creating everything is a reflection in you so what are you you know instead of blaming everyone else how are you manifesting it yeah instead of pointing that finger when you realize there three fingers pointing back at you you got to realize that okay I let

me let me change if I'm not happy with how things are going let me change let me let me realize that I'm the source and let me change what I'm doing and see if that affect and see how that changes it you know you're not going to get you're not going to get uh what you desire by like being like up yeah or like being angry at the world or all these things like I'm not saying you can't take that anger there's infinite possibilties you can't take that and let that fuel you but if it

hasn't been working for you then yeah you got to change up you got to change up your mentality because your mentality is everything it really is it's the beginning of everything Faith and then the mentality you know yeah it's kind of like what uh poser said it's like you were kind of down and out for a while or in more of like a lower State and then all of a sudden he sees you a few months later and you're glowing so you change something within you yeah you didn't take a pale and make you feel

better you changed something within you you transformed the way you think and then you created from a space of joy and possibilities and freedom have you ever read that book The secrets of the hidden secrets of I read it and I can't remember the name of it it's like talking about speaking to water positively and you speaking to water differently and you know you look at the water down to the crystal levels cuz they're like and you see that like it'll be like a beautiful snowflake when you're speaking to water positively and then it'll be

like a like deformed looking crazy thing when you're like saying like you suck you don't deserve this like this and that as opposed to like you're worthy I love you it's you know instead of and you see the difference of how it in water right you realize that we're like 70 80% water and you realize how important it is to speak these things on to yourself and to say them out loud it has a s it has an effect what that book taught me is not only is that like people could be like oh that's

woo woo that's like an opinion no that's that's scientific research that the way you what you say what you put out in the world literally has an effect on your um the world around you 100% And I think your inner your inner words also even if you don't speak it out but you're thinking it also has the effect you're just thinking I suck I'm nobody but you're not saying it it's still going to impact you yeah it is because that's your subconscious and to me your subconscious mind is like the secret to that's like one

of the secrets to manifest in is really cuz you're so conscious mind can't tell what is like real and what isn't so meaning like you might be like oh I don't know if it's going to work but let me just do it and then you'll be like I am this I am that I am that the fact that you took the time out to acknowledge that your brain is going to believe anything it tells you so even if you be like oh I fck like you know what I'm saying your subconscious GNA be like oh

okay it's like you have to treat your subconscious mind like it's the your best gullible friend in the world World 100% so you feed it you give it all of the nutrition so it could be the healthiest possible you know what I'm saying in your book uh you have a couple questions for people and the question is what are you avoiding in your life is it possible that this thing might serve you in your development what's the best thing that could happen from it curious for you Sean what are you avoiding in your life right

now what's the thing you're avoiding the most right now that when you address it it's going to really help you unlock that next level of abundance and freedom you know what that's something I might have to take with me and think about that's a great question I think that [Music] um I kind have uh need to take time out a little more to uh live my life all the way what I mean by that is like go like whatever it is whatever I feel I feel like I have to really accept that I deserve that

and that I have the means to do it and I you know I can't say like oh I should I'm held back by this or that so that's one thing there are a few things on my list that I know that um that are kind of personal sure sure you know but I appreciate on it I appreciate you because that is that is something that that is something that I I I'm gonna actually I hope somebody wrote that down out there because well you got it in your book I should have I should have brought

my journal to take notes really I love that you do that yeah of course man what do you need to make peace with these are questions that you have in your book for us which I think are powerful you're a deep wise human being and I appreciate how you challenge anyone who's getting this book again get the book go higher but one of the questions is what do you need to make peace with oh that was a that was a question in my book it's your book yeah um which by the way the answer I

gave is just that some of this stuff is personal so I just want to say it on camera it's not like I didn't have it like I know what the thing so what was the the next one you said what do you make peace with yeah I'll give an example of something that I need to make peace with is uh there is a a friend uh at home that was one of my best friends growing up that hurt me in the sense of uh over steping boundaries try to do business with them to put him

in things and you know I don't want to get too many details cuz I don't like embarrass some people but that's one of the things that I need to make peace with in the sense of knowing how to move forward with that but also letting go of that letting go of that hurt not holding on to it yeah not letting me apply what our situation was to other situations you know of like maybe being a little bit having a reservation of doing certain business with people because of that situation and that has nothing to do

with that you know I have to practice that rule of Separation that I've been talking about of like that have nothing to do with that what's the next three steps you need to make after this conversation to support you in getting in getting to a piece with that conflict well one of the next three steps is one I have to take time out to to actually address these things and and respect that you know a lot of times if we're not making money or doing things we think that it time or whatever yeah it doesn't

think that it deserves that much time so I have to realize that I need to take time I need to um take responsibility I need to be confident in my decision that's one of the things that I lacked my whole life was um confidence in my decisions I had confidence as a person but being confident in my decision doesn't matter what the outcome is the confidence in the decision is already a win you know because that is the quality of man and that is the quality that I want to pass on to my future Generations

I want that's something I want to see in my son and his son and his daughter that my daughter whoever you know so that's beautiful man I'm going to I'm going to follow up with you in a couple weeks and see we got to do like a part two of this I'm down man I'm down man I've got a few final questions for you I don't want to respect your time what's the thing you are most proud of that most people don't know about you we know you've got you know multiplatinum 185 million records you

know you've collaborated with every big artist in the world you're you know a superstar but what's the thing that you're proud of most people don't know about you well besides making like the best kid ever in the world that's one thing I'm for sure proud of um another thing is being able to achieve something that a lot of people told me wasn't possible you know a lot of people in at the end um achieve it by not believing them that's one of the things I'm most proud of because it's so easy to believe what someone

says but to bring it all the way back [Music] around you have to believe what you feel always and and not always believe what you see but always believe what you feel and that is the one thing I'm proud of that I've been able to do when yeah when you do think like you know you get to collab with your favorite artists people you consider the greatest you know from yay to J to Eminem to NAS to Little Wayne you know all my favorites that are alive still and have like plaques with them with their

names on it like oh you know this me and Kanye song Went seven times Platinum oh me and Jay oh me Jay and Kanye song five time oh your song went this or you this so you you know go on diamond and all these things it's like some I'm really great ful for and proud of but the I'm not as proud of that as just like believing and like you know believing in myself that I could do it means more than the actual thing yeah does that make sense of course 100% I mean you've collaborated

with some of the you know most iconic artists of Our Generation and I'm sure you've learned incredible lessons from each one of them and have inspiring stories from each one of them but which one of those names really taught you something that just blew you away of those artists that you got to work with whether through interacting with them seeing how they created art just being in their presence how they you know performed on stage like what was the lesson one of them taught you that really inspired You Kanye for sure he was the one

who let me be a fly on the wall in the studio really yeah well actually there aren't a lot of people who would let a kid come up to them rap for for them eventually know you know sign them build a bond with them give them opportunity it's not a lot of people who would do that and that's just been he did they did yeah for sure and yeah that's that was yeah that's that's that's been awesome Eminem too really what was that like being a Detroit kid yeah crazy and Eminem's the the king yeah

crazy in Detroit crazy what was that like well one of the things I've been talking about this whole interview uh the separation of I learned that just because you're the biggest rapper of all time in the world doesn't mean that like you're taking it easy it's like he's his passion and his has nothing to do with his success in a sense it's a byproduct of his passion but at the same time like he's in the studio every day he's hungry he's like trying to do his best and he's like has sold of trillion records and

you know I said it in another interview like he cares about rapping like how Goku care about fighting you know and I really learned that uh that that that passion is its own Beast that has nothing to do with you know a lot of people be like oh you know it's just I guess he taught me to just really go with how you feel you know that's what he feel like d yeah I got I got two final questions for you I've got a dozen still on here but I want to respect our time here

but uh I want people to get your book before I ask the final questions it's called go hire five practices for purpose success and inner peace this is a GameChanger and you wouldn't expect a lot of things you're going to read out of this from from a guy like big sea but it's extremely extremely deep wise spiritual and profound and and I want to acknowledge you Sean for putting yourself out there there like this I know you do this in your your art your music and there's undertones of this as well in your music yeah

but you really went all in on this book and I I think it's one of your greatest pieces of art because of the impact it will continue to have for generations and how it's truly feeding the soul for so many people when they dive in and start consuming and capturing some of this so I want to acknowledge you for taking the the leap of faith to put this out there to put your heart and soul into something like this and to be willing to talk about all these Concepts that I don't really hear a lot

of artists like you talking about I don't hear people talking about manifestation and setting a frequency and letting go of the past you know you hear about holding grudges and getting back at people and all these different things you're you're you're speaking about boundaries learning about how to love yourself self-worth therapy um you know recreating bonds with your parents loving your child being a great dad being proud of being a father being there for your son like all these things it's just not typical conversation I think with that industry and maybe I'm wrong but that's

what I think a lot of people might might be thinking so I want to acknowledge you for thank you so much in and using your heart again what you said using your heart to be of service and I think that's the greatest gift that every person can can give to the world is whatever is in their heart use it to be of service for others and I acknowledge you for doing that with this book my man thank you so much man two final questions for you I want people to go get the book follow you

on social media where else can we be of service to you today besides getting a couple copies of the book by just you know I care about the product of what the book teaches you more than you getting it like even get it and pass it on to somebody or you know and pass it on to 10 different people you know I I really love that it's not about like the amount of the books but man I just really appreciate those kind words you said it's uh sometimes it is gets a little lonely walking the

road I'm on you know uh but I gota just keep it real with myself so uh what I can say is that I'm very grateful you know of course anything you hear for me you can indulge in you know just be be the best you man like that's that's the way you do it you know you go higher with whatever it is you got going on this is a question I ask everyone at the end these last two questions it's called the three truths so it's a hypothetical scenario imagine you get to live as long

as you want to live on this Earth but it's the last day could be a 100 200 years old whatever it is you get to live and you get to accomplish and manifest all your dreams from this moment till then but you got to turn the lights off and go somewhere else your life is over on this last day you have to take all of your work with you so no one has access to your music your art your book this conversation is gone hypothetical okay but you get to leave behind three final lessons I

call it three truths and we would we would have access to these three lessons what would those three truths be for you one is sounds very cliche but you you are the source of your happiness be happy you don't have to chase it it's already there you just got to choose it another is to have fun see yourself and everyone else because everything that comes into your existence is just a reflection of you and vice versa so see yourself and everyone because that will really create a lot for you I promise 100% man final question

what's your definition of greatness to me it's the act of doing your best right so to me the definition of greatness is like living at the highest frequency in every aspect getting the most out of life whatever that means for you you know like getting the most out of it it's that's that's greatness yeah I'm me Big Shot hey appreciate you it's been a true pleasure man yeah powerful man thank you thank you so much for being here I hope you got some value from this episode as much as I did if you did please

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