there are rumors that these food companies have actually been using brain scans like this to see how eating a pringle affects your brain and to engineer foods like this to light up your brain in the maximum way possible this is how Sinister this is but how do you process that information corruption the FDA is captured the NIH is captured the USDA is captured criminal lobbying lobbying at the level of Congress this is the way it works and they're all connected with Pharma so I think Brian and I need to have an MMA match oh you're
actually being serious you'd want to do this oh absolutely oh that'd be fun okay oh this is what you drink yes oh all right what are you guys laughing at in the back bring the drink how inspirational would it be to the country if Trump lost 20 lb or 30 lb cuz I'm super excited about this make America healthy again movement what Bob's going to do and so my pitch to Trump would be this and I I think we have the space for it babe I don't think that we could have a cow in our
neighborhood about a goat [Music] I've never done the podcast when the middle of the podcast we call my chef Alper and he's talking about what we eat and what's in our pantry my wife walks in we brought all these drinks all the energy drinks we said what do you think about this we went through the ingredients you got to take a look at this snacks fast food what should you eat it was interesting what he said it's okay to eat phone I don't know about you you know when sometimes you have the phone in your
hand for too long and your hand gets hot and it gets warm and feels weird and you have to go to this place wait till you see what he says about that and then sleep natural ways of increasing your testosterone level which was very interesting and then in the middle of the podcast he's not a fan of this guy that thinks he's going to live forever the Brian Johnston guy that he he claims he's going to live to what rout 150 130 140 whatever the number is he called him out to a fight in the
middle of the podcast anyways we covered a lot if health is important to you and you want to find a way to live a healthier life you're going to love this podcast with the one and only Paul saladino did you ever think you [Applause] were Adam what's your the future looks bright my handshake is better than anything I ever signed right here you are a oneon-one my son's I think it's about something to do with Australia anyways folks today the goal is for us to get healthier that's it's very simple you're here because I'm 46
years old and I want to find a way to live a healthier life okay uh what we eat uh what we can do to increase testosterone naturally organically uh what food is a waste of time I'm going to bring all the different energy drinks are going to go pick up right now and I want you to look at them and tell me what the ingredients are why is it good for you bad for you we're going to go through some junk food this is purely for our employees here they chose this food that they have
in our break rooms and you need to tell them what's good what's not and scare the crap out of them with some of them and then I'm going to bring my favorite bubble gum that'll come out here that my 11-year-old son the other day were at the market were shopping and I have it in there to pick it up and Dylan goes like this you're not going to chew this I said why it's got red Dy in it and and the cashier looks at my son say how do you know says he can't take this
scum was so interesting watching 11 years doing this yeah he's he's he's ahead of the curve 11 years old bro he's ahead of the curve yeah so it's interesting it's great to have you here man it's good to be here thank you for having I want to say the last name properly saladino saladino saladino so Paul saladino Sicilian Sicilian yeah does all the generational chaos of Sicilian come with you or you're pretty friendly no I'm pretty friendly just yeah unless you cross you cross the line you cross the line you're going to be found in
a jungle and coost Ric you could be you could be what happened to Pat he's somewhere out there with the Pumas so let's get right into it 2024 election strange one Bobby Kennedy starts becoming very popular everybody's wondering what bobb's going to be doing I'm G to run for office you're running for office yes huh never saw that want to be a president 1% 2% 5% 7% make America healthy again then he walks across with Trump and he's joining him and then you have Elon and all the other guys that are combining together but out
of all the things that they talked about uh regarding to health with Bobby big farm Larry Ellison that came up yesterday with the cure for cancer I'm going to play these clips to get your ideas well what are you most excited about in regards to health fluoride water all of that what are you most excited about with the make America healthy again movement I think what I'm most excited about is reform in all the government agencies what I do is create nutritional content which is bottom up Grassroots but we have this incredible moment in our
history where the government maybe top down might actually things might get better and we can talk about it and drill down on any of these ideas but the FDA has been captured the Food and Drug Administration the USDA has been captured the NIH the National Institutes of Health captured and they're all kind of in the pocket of big Pharma and Industrial food companies and that's really led to inordinate amounts of confusion in the public sphere about what is healthy how to get healthy how to lose weight and what food choices to make and so at
a governmental topown level which is something I never thought I would see in my lifetime we have this incredible opportunity to reform those agencies and actually start teaching people starting with school lunches and the USDA nutritional dietary guidelines what real food looks like and what really is healthy and it's not that complicated at all it's so simple so that's good so progress being made now you know when when I was sitting down with uh Bobby or even with VI one of the things I asked them about and you and I briefly talked about it is
what would what would it take for them to prevent big farmer from being able to advertise right and if they stop advertising a lot of Industries will be destroyed a lot of companies will be going out of business and some of them will be sold to others right based on you being in this world and you're watching this closely what do you noticing with possibility of big Pharma not being able to advertise and why do you even support that well you know that the US and New Zealand are the only two companies in the world
that allow allow Pharma advertising on television it's it's just an insane thing why is a drug company circumventing your doctor who's that relationship is sacran why is a drug company getting to tell you what you should be asking your doctor about it I'm a doctor I'm a traditionally trained medical doctor so when a patient comes to your office and says Doctor I want this drug it's kind of hard for the doctor to say no if if the drug is in some way indicated it it just it puts a lot of pressure on the doctor that
they shouldn't have and it's it's not the right way to do things and a lot of times doctors who on average get around seven to eight minutes with every patient in this insurance driven model that really hamstrings doctors in a way that's very strange and limits their amount of care time with every patient a lot of doctors are kind of stuck and just say I just need to get the patient I just need to give the patient something so they walk out of my office happy which isn't the way it should be but that's the
situation we've created for doctors so to stop Pharma advertising would simply be incredible it would be a really great step in the right direction and whatever companies go out of business they should be out of business in the first place they shouldn't actually exist I don't think yeah so for me the the biggest thing when you look at health and you're looking at everything this is kind of how I view it and I want you to tear apart and you know disagree with me uh in any way you want you'll have somebody sit down here
and they'll they'll present their arguments on being a Scientologist or being LDS or being uh Muslim or being Christian or being whatever their religion is but I think that's the same way as well with health you'll have a lot of people say well you got to be a carnivore diet you got a Paleo you got to do this meat only no vegetable only know this only and I only eat this and I only eat that to to the busy person that's living their lives and they're trying to see oh am I supposed to eat this
no this article says don't okay put this down am I supposed to drink coffee no no no it's bad for you no it's good for you so so which one is it right how does the average person differentiate between who to listen to and not to listen to so I think that I'll give you a maxim that I think is very simple for people in the health conversation about how to select a food that's healthy and we can go from there because your question is well taken it's very difficult to know who to listen to
so just think about it this way when you see food in a grocery store wherever you're eating food because people eat food in grocery stores they eat food in convenience stores they eat food in fast food restaurants the first rule is just eat a single ingredient food if you're eating meat and eggs and milk and fruit and vegetables you will be healthy I mean show me the person who eats single ingredient foods and is not healthy secondly if you're eating a food with a label on it with an ingredient label if your great grandmother would
not recognize any of the ingredients on that label put it down and beyond that you're going to do pretty darn good that's the simplest maximum you could ever if your great grandmother so if I take this out this is Doritos and what am I looking at so am I going to here on this side so whatever it's telling me on the ingredients side if I don't you're not talking about the total fat saturated vitamins all that stuff just read the ingredients over here yeah yeah well they make it so small that you can't read it
you're like my grandmother couldn't even read it so she probably would have eat you're done then you're already you're already done you're already screw it but so such as what like is there anything you would say look for the following five six seven things right so well let's let me just read the ingredients on these mini chips aoy right so you've got um this unbleached enriched flour I don't think your great-grandmother would recognized unbleached enriched flour she would if it said flour she might recognize it but and and that unbleached enriched flour is wheat flour
plus nasin plus reduced iron plus thyine plus mononitrate vitamin B1 um which is thyine and then you got riboflavin as an ingredient and then you've got sugar which your grandmother might actually recognize and we can talk about the ins and outs of sugar and the next thing is soybean and or canola oil and your great-grandmother wouldn't even know what soybean or canol canola oil were because they didn't exist until around 100 years ago so these ingredients were not even part of the human food supply until 1911 with krisco that was from Proctor and Gamble we
can talk about seed oils then you have palm and palm kernel oil she probably wouldn't recognize that cocoa Pro processed with Al Alkali maybe high fructose corn syrup she would definitely not recognize because that's another very recent ingredient in the human diet you got salt she might recognize salt dextrose baking soda she would see milk soy lein she would not know what soy leian is natural and artificial flavor she would not know what that is and caramel color so um probably 85% of the ingredients on this label she wouldn't recognize so out of all these
things here that we see is there any of these that you would eat and say this is an okay snack to eat there's nothing here that I would eat are you joking there's nothing on this table so let me just so Doritos you're not eating absolutely not Fritos no no okay chees it they love this though chees it is makes it makes you smile you said you have to be happy a little bit so cheese it how about these guys this should be good for you no no no I've never how about Pringles no definitely
not those are full sea oils so let let's let's look at the ingredients in Pringles so you've got uh oh man they make it so hard to read um you've got dried potatoes all right then you've got vegetable oil which is again uh corn cotton seed um or high alic soybean uh and um what does it say here I can't even read it they make it so hard to read yeah then it's um is that the one here he zoomed in right there Rob can you zoom in a little bit on the screen the bottom
okay there you go yeah okay you got uh de germinated yellow cornflour corn starch rice flour malti extran mono and diglycerides I mean so the dried potatoes are are okay but everything after that no one is recognizing 100 years why is that bad for you though like aside from your grandmother not know what it is why is it bad like what's the side effect so seed oils are the second ingredient and we can you want to talk about seed oils let's get into it so seed oils are things like corn canola sunflower safflower soybean peanut
oils they are oils from plant seeds the first real seed oil to enter the human diet was 1911 Proctor and Gamble made Crisco right and that was um a seed oil um in like a a white sort of form that uh that mimicked butter for humans and then Chrisco was part of a big marketing campaign where Proctor Gam trying to tell people this is better than butter or it it stays um fresh longer than butter and there was this big confusion that happened but you know 120 years ago humans did not eat seed oils and
this is an interesting point of reference to consider if you think about the health of humans in 1900 heart disease which is heart attacks Strokes all these cerebrovascular um issues were were a fraction of what they are today they were vanishingly rare in 1900 a lot of people don't know this in 1900 essentially very few had even seen a heart attack in their patient obesity was incredibly rare 120 years ago so if somebody did have a heart attack in 1900 what was the cause uh there are so many things that could cause a heart attack
but this is pre this right right who knows I mean um I think that heart attacks were incredibly rare in 1900 people could have had a heart attack because of stress or lack of sleep other toxins in the environment could have contributed to a heart attack like Mercury toxicity or heavy metal toxicity right there says in the early 1900 heart attacks rates were were significantly lower compared to later decades as heart disease was not a leading cause of death at the time instead infectious disease like pneumonia tuberculosis were the per meaning heart attacks were considered
uncommon in the early 20th century but saw a substantial rise throughout the century becoming the most common cause of death by mid century what happened in the mid-century these Foods happened processed foods happened that's the major thing plus you know we can think about introduction of pesticides introduction of um other foods that are more contaminated with uh problematic things like heavy metals in the human diet but at a broad level Ultra processed foods came into the human diet over the last 120 years and Seed oils came into the human diet over the last 120 years
food dyes mono and diglycerides all of these ingredients that your great- grandmother wouldn't recognize have become part of the human diet the majority of our diet so why did companies use them is it purely because it makes the taste better is it because it's more you know enjoyable is it because it's more addicting is it because because what what are the three four five all of the above they're cheaper they have a better shelf life they taste better and they're more addicting so recently evidence has come out which is I think we need to corroborate
this but there was a lawsuit that recently was filed and the lawsuit alleges that many of these big food companies craft ConAgra Nestle actually have been working with Scientists to develop foods that are hyper palatable potentially even using things like eegs so an EEG is an electroencephalogram it's something we do in the hospital when we're looking for seizures in a patient's brain but there's the possibility there are rumors that these food companies have actually been using brain scans like this to see how eating a pringle affects your brain and to engineer foods like this to
light up your brain in the maximum way possible this is how Sinister this is and this is I guess sort of legal because we have an open food system and there's nothing illegal about a pringle but if these food companies are actually making these Foods intentionally to light up your brain and make them make them hyper palatable and Hyper addictive we are really being poisoned it's really pretty crazy so okay so let me go into a different so so far was addicting shelf life cheaper mhm what was the other one hyper palal and addicting yeah
okay have you ever thought about starting an a a drink company or energy drink company no because I think that your energy should not need to come from a drink right our I I think that when you have energy it comes from the mitochondria of your cells working right and I don't I don't use energy drinks I know that people need to use energy drinks but energy drinks are in some ways a crutch right it's we're using something because we are feeling low because we're having a crash in the afternoon because we are not having
enough energy enough mental Clarity enough hootspa right I remember when we were talking about potentially creating an energy drink and we flew out and we sat down we tasted a bunch of different flavors and then the guy was very honest he was straight up and he said look when it comes down to drinks people buy it not because it's good for them they buy it because it tastes good so if you can find a way to it's important to make it more taste that's something that I'm willing to drink it two three times a day
then make me feel like it's somewhat good for me psychologically I'll feel like I'm compensating for this is good for me because if I take it I'm getting vitamins right right so if you actually made a drink that was good for you it probably would taste good and you wouldn't be addicted to it and maybe you wouldn't even need it exactly why do you need an energy drink three times a day is the ultimate question there why do humans need so many energy drinks why are we so tired somebody may say what's wrong with us
I so I just have my guy go and buy a bunch of drinks all right and I want you to go through one by one by one I got a monster I got vitamin water which I think 50 Cent was a part of it and I think even uh can you pull up if Kobe and 50 Cent were part of a vitamin water you got Celsius which is down here in bokeh you got Gatorade which I want to be like Mike uh he drank Gatorade you got Red Bull which I have one of the funniest
stories with Red Bull maybe I'll tell you later all right so walk us through those drinks why they're not good for you so like you said in any of these drinks you're going to find you're going to find predictable ingredients in in the monster because this is not a low calorie monster you're going to find water and sugar as the first ingredients and look humans need carbohydrates and I want to get into sugar with you when it's good for humans and when it's bad for humans we'll get into that later in the podcast but after
sugar the ingredients here are essentially uh flavorings uh caffeine and a few vitamins and you know these energy drinks are basically sweet ways to package caffeine and other sort of fake energy Rob are you on Monster right now yes so okay if I look at this right now vitamin B2 vitamin B3 vitamin B6 vitamin B12 right 260% 250 240 500 right marketing wise that looks good it does I'm getting a ton of vitamins right okay are then when I get into the ingredients if you can zoom in a little bit more which one is is
that monster or is that something else right that's going to be as close as they let me get um is it okay well let's see if you can find well the one you were on was fine Rob just go back to that one because that was workable is that the monster one yes let me zoom in which part of it is not good for you like walk us through the ingredients okay so first ingredient here is carbonated water carbonated water pretty benign right you take a pelino carbonated water no problem if you were going to
tell me there's side effects would you know we would have finished it right now we're done we're done carbon water I have no problem with second ingredient is sugar so maybe we need to have a little bit of a sugar conversation right now sugar is not bad sugar is bad for humans but not because of why you think it's bad for humans when you strip sugar which is sucrose right sucrose is a disaccharide of glucose and fructose when you strip that out of a fruit or out of honey for instance you are removing it from
a very complex food Matrix full of hundreds if not thousands of other chemicals and your body doesn't know what to do with pure sucrose and the problem with pure sucrose is not that it raises your blood sugar the problem with pure sucrose is that it causes overgrowth of the wrong type of bacteria in your gut because all of these other hundreds if not thousands of chemicals that are in a banana or an orange or a strawberry or a blueberry or a raw organic honey actually temper the negative effects of sugar in your body they prevent
overgrowth of bacteria in your gut so Whole Foods are things that humans have been eating for hundreds of thousands thousands of years as Homo sapiens and previously as millions of years as preh homed ancestors and our body and our gut Flora know what to do with these strawberries don't cause diabetes blueberries don't cause diabetes and I would even say that raw honey doesn't cause diabetes but sugar is a problem for humans because it affects your gut Flora negatively because it's devoid of all these chemicals which are naturally occurring in strawberries honey Etc that are inherent
in the whole fruit that are essential to balance the gut floor when you consume this so when you consume pure sugar you are causing disbiosis in your gut and this gets a little technical but disbiosis in your gut leads to increased levels of endotoxin in your body endotoxin is lipopolysaccharide that is a gram negative cell wall component so gram negative is type of bacteria there's gram negative and gram positive bacteria and a component of the gram negative bacterial cell wall is lipopolysaccharide when you have too much lipopolysaccharide in your gut it moves through the gut
into your bloodstream and you get some something called metabolic endotoxemia the same thing happens when you have high fructose corn syrup so high fructose corn syrup is made from corn we can talk about that in conjunction with these multi-billion doll corn lobbies that have forced producers to make or uh I would say urged producers to make more hrose corn here versus regular corn uh versus regular sugar but any type of processed sugar I think is harmful for humans because it affects your gut FL negatively and that leads to this complex term which is metabolic endotoxemia
and metabolic endotoxemia leads to dysfunctional metabolism which is breaking your mitochondria so ultimately if we Zoom way way out and we look at human health metabolic dysfunction which is also known as insulin resistance which can also lead to diabetes it's on the spectrum of pre-diabetes this is at the core of so many I would say the vast majority of chronic disease in humans 90% of what we spend our Healthcare dollars on in the United States is chronic illness 90% of 4.3 trillion dollars a year is on chronic illness obesity diabetes autoimmune conditions all of which
are preventable or reversable based on what we eat and how we live so 90% of our Healthcare dollars are going to treat which isn't really treating it's just kind of banding illnesses that are completely reversible and are related to things like this are related to sugar and Seed oils in our food so if we go back to the monster I'll just finish that one up guys yeah so we had sugar and we talked a bit about why that's a problem the next ingredient is glucose and the glucose is a monosaccharide if you stay on Sugar
by the way I just want to show this while we're on the sugar topic I just typed in right now what's more addictive sugar or cocaine this is what came up from ramse Healthcare UK research on rats has found that sugar is more addictive than opioid drugs such as cocaine and there can be withdrawal symptoms such as depression and behavioral problems when people try cutting out sugar completely I mean that addicting more than cocaine in animal studies there there are some some evidence that there is some evidence that it looks like it is very addicting
when it's pure sugar yes but strawberries are not addicting right blueberries are not addicting in the same way that pure sugar is you don't live in our house I mean we we we have an issue with blueberries that's okay dealing with it we're really dealing with it but blueberries are so healthy for humans because of these all these other compounds that come with it and I don't think like I said in a whole food package sugar is harmful for humans like I said there is no evidence that honey even causes diabetes there's actually a randomized
controlled trial in humans with diabetics where they gave them up to 120 gram which is almost 7 to8 tablespoons of honey per day in diabetics and their insulin sensitivity got better so we can talk about all these nuances but if someone has diabetes and you eat fruit or you eat sugar your body is not going to handle that Sugar well but the fruit and the Honey didn't make you diabetic it is these other ingredients in these foods that are making you diabetic or it is processed sugar affecting your gut microbiome explanation go go back to
that one Rob where you were at it said what it says no honey doesn't cause diabetes but eating too much honey can increase your risk of development type two diabetes honey is a natural sugar that raises blood sugar eating too much honey or any type of sugar can weight gain and increase your risk of developing type two doctors May recommend that people with diabetes avoid honey and other sweeteners until their diabetes is well managed do you agree with that not the second part okay and I don't think I don't think somebody with diabetes needs to
be eating a lot of honey but I want people to understand that honey Isn't what gave them diabetes it's seed oils which are rich in a omega-6 polyunsaturated fat called linolic acid and we'll get deep down the rabbit hole of seed oils that linolic acid accumulates in cell membranes and mitochondrial membranes and that that I think is really Ground Zero for what's causing metabolic dysfunction but broken mitochondria which is what we're talking about here ultimately on this podcast that is what makes people have chronic illness and metabolic dysfunction okay let's go back to monster Robin
we're going to go through these drinks if you want to go back to monster go for it okay so then we have glucose again glucose is a monosaccharide sugar sucrose is a disaccharide it's fructose and glucose citric acid is a preservative natural flavors we don't even know what that is Pat like they can they can make natural flavors can be a lot of things this is part of the problem with the FDA this is an illustration of how the Food and Drug Administration is captured in the United States you have over 10,000 ingredients in our
food supply that have come into the food supply through the generally recognized as safe designation the grass designation and the companies that put these compounds into our food do not have to really do the proper safety trials they can kind of Grandfather them in and the FDA now allows those companies to say yeah we tested it it's safe when there really haven't been any safety trials so we don't even know I don't even know what natural flavors is your grandmother doesn't know what that is what two great words to use though right it's like pro-choice
right the words are prif these are good words so you know back in the days life insurance used to be called Death Insurance literally and they called it to a life insurance life is more marketable than death insurance so people were willing to buy life insurance right so natural flavor to somebody who's not in that space they said honey don't worry about it this is natural fla flavor so it's effective it's a good marketing stunt you have no idea what that is yeah and when we're talking about this this verbage seed oils have really been
rebranded as vegetable oils which is something we'll get to right so there's a euphemism there also they're not a vegetable oil they're a seed oil but vegetable oils sounds healthy um next we're going on and we have what we okay toine torine so toine is great toine is a compound that occurs exclusively in animal Foods it's a type of amino acid that has been associated with longevity across species so toine is probably great for humans but guess what toine is in meat torine is in your steak and your hamburger and your chicken and you get
torine in animal Foods there are no plant foods with torine so that's a foreshadowing of the distinction between plant and animal foods for later in the podcast so there's nothing wrong with toine sodium citrate is another type of preservative uh color added again we have no idea what that is what kind of coloring how it affects our mitochondria how it affects the gut that to me doesn't sound like a good thing period color artificial colors we know the food dieses are problematic natural flavors is good color added to me doesn't sound good yeah PX gin
SN extract I think that there's evidence that the Gin SN may have some benefits in humans you know I think penx jining extract is one of the the more benign things on this label so far elar is again another typee of amino acid that occurs naturally in foods you can see the Latin root there the carnal the C RN like cartine and carnosine are naturally occurring in meat and they're beneficial for humans they're antioxidants I would rather that someone just eat a steak preferably grass-fed grass finish to get carnitine but it's not the worst thing
um yeah then you have um uh caffeine and caffeine is an interesting one so caffeine belongs to a series of compounds as methyl xanthines theob bromine and chocolate is another type of methyl xanthine and these compounds make us they they sort of give us energy in some ways but they can also make us jittery they can cause blood sugar swings they affect adenosine receptors in the brain and they sort of forestall the onset of feeling sleepy they don't really do good things for the human body caffeine is not a vitamin it's not essential for our
biochemistry and I would argue that caffeine is sort of borrowing tomorrow's happiness today this is an interesting expression alcoh alcohol could also be considered borrowing tomorrow's happiness today you're sort of you're taking your bank account and you're bringing it Forward you're saying I'm tired and I'm going to use this chemical crutch to feel less tired and you know that later in the day when the caffeine wears off and your adenosine receptors are flooded with adenosine you're going to feel more tired because it's a methyl xanthine caffeine also causes uh loss of electrolytes uh in your
body so minerals like sodium potassium calcium magnesium so caffeine does have negative sort of diuretic effects do you drink coffee not drink coffee when's the last time you had covid-19 years ago 19 years ago 19 years ago yeah when I was in physician assistant school before Medical School interesting okay go back to it Rob with monster let's see what else we got so caffeine but they have to put caffeine in there because that's why it gives you energy right that's why it gives you energy is the C I wonder if it's like across the board
with everybody here it is these are all going to be exactly the same so sorbic acid actually says preservative Pat so he they were forthcoming there it's a preservative okay benzoic acid is a preservative how much have these been studied in humans do we know if these are safe do we know how they affect gut Flora not really certainly something your great-grandmother would never have eaten um niacinamide is a vitamin it's essentially nasin which is um fine for humans it's again found in many foods both plant and animal Foods sucrose is an artificial sweetener and
there are some pretty big problems with sucros um the there are many in the Health space who would say that artificial sweeteners are benign for humans but again my great-grandmother would not recognize this and there are studies in animals and humans suggesting that when you consume artificial sweeteners like sucrose or aspartame or a which is a suame k with carbohydrates it interferes with your body's normal insulin signaling so it it's not terribly surprising to suggest that when you consume something that your body perceives as sweet but actually has no calories Associated that it would confu
it would confuse your body at a neurological and metabolic level because historically evolutionarily humans have always consumed things that were sweet with calories so honey has calories a strawberry has calories a raspberry has calories a potato right a sweet potato anything you're eating has calories so these artificial sweeteners are potentially neurom metabolically confusing for the body and we know that they change the gut Flora potentially in negative way so I do not believe that artificial sweeteners are benign and so again it's it's we really have to ask the question what is that doing to humans
long term salt is fine sodium chloride is totally fine um D glucuronolactone I'm not terribly worried about that um inositol again some people find anoco to be helpful um uh Guana extract is a it's actually a fruit extract okay um um Pur oxine hydrochloride is that's vitamin B6 riboflavin is vitamin B2 multitran is another type of sugar and the last ingredient is important to note it's cyanocobalamin which is a form of B12 that the human body doesn't really like so there are multiple different types of the body doesn't really like it's potentially problematic for the
body why that because the the the cyano is a cyanide Moy so that's cyanide with your cobalamin cobalamin is vitamin B12 but cyano is cyanide so it's a very small small amount but cyanide we know is a mitochondrial Toxin and whether or not that amount of cyanide is actually problematic for humans is remains to be seen but it probably needs to be studied more and but I'll tell you this there are many other forms of vitamin B12 they could put in there methyl cobalamin adenos cobalamin hydroxycobalamin which are not going to have any problems in
the human body but they choose to put cyanocobalamin because it's the cheapest and so Celsius actually came under Fire for this recently so um I've got a friend who actually called Celsius out for cyanocobalamin and that was kind of a big deal but all of these if they have vitamin B12 will have cyanocobalamin so all of them have the same thing they all have cyoc cobalamin yes there is not a single energy drink that I've ever seen that has methyl cobalamin so so so Red Bull says calcium pantoate panto that's vitamin B5 that's Panic acid
but it just says vitamin B12 at the at the end it doesn't explain what kind of vitamin B2 cobalamin it is sooss board across the board Sayan calaman all right let's see what these guys are prime is also same you're saying if Prime has B12 it's going to have that's the same thingal and actually these guys say that it is but the Red Bull does not yeah and again this is a form of what's the difference what is the difference actually between Celsius monster Prim in and Red Bull not a lot probably the amount of
caffeine some of them are going to use art more artificial sweeteners and less sugar different food dyes so this Gatorade is going to have some food dye in it you know this monster we didn't really see any food dies we did see artificial color but they didn't tell us what it was the Gatorade will list artificial colors this may have a yellow dye in it this has yellow number five so the Gatorade actually has one of these food dyes that are almost certainly problematic for humans how about vitamin and water let's see I don't drink
these so I have to look at every ingredient list I'm sorry guys I mean we can pull this up it's actually pretty similar to what we've seen on these other ones um these forms of uh vitamins um some of which are okay some of which are not great for humans the Vitamin Water actually uses fruit and vegetable juices for color so they're doing a little bit better here but again it's um it's not great they they say reverse osmosis water is the first ingredient great they're giving us clean water the second ingredient is Crystal and
fructose so they have to make it sweet and they're using a pure fructose in this vitamin water and the problem with this so fructose and glucose are two monosaccharides fructose and glucose together are a disaccharide we know as sucrose pure fructose does not occur anywhere in nature you cannot get pure fructose in nature fructose always occurs with glucose fruit is connected with this sort of fructose name right so fructose occurs in Fruit a strawberry has fructose honey contains fructose anything that has sucrose contains fructose so when they're making a pure fructose in this drink you're
creating something that humans have never seen and we know very clearly from animal models that when you feed animals pure fructose it causes disbiosis in the gut it causes overgrowth of the wrong type of bacteria in the gut because in your gut in your intestines you need glucose and fructose together for these to be absorbed properly this is what we've always done as humans we never there's no fructose tree right you can't just go out and consume pure fructose but in so many studies with fructose they will give animals or humans pure fructose and that
gets malabsorbed meaning more of it stays in the gut and then you get this problem again which is dispos so so many things that we are eating are assailing our gut microbiome and changing the balance there so here's a question then um what what is there is there anything you you've heard Bobby Kennedy RFK talk about if he ends up becoming you know the one of the most biggest jobs that he's got trillion and a half I believe the budget is if I'm not mistaken it's a big number that he has uh if he does
bless you what can he do that would massively disrupt these Sports energy drink business I think the food dies are a good place to start and I think that you know again right at this moment we're really hitting the intersection of Health policy and business and that's a tough one because I don't really think anything here on the table is healthy so if you're doing these things you are certainly negatively impacting your body now what's the relative effect of that could you drink this twice a week and and be okay probably but it's cumulative right
so if you're drinking Vitamin Water you're probably also drinking a Monster a few times a week and then you're probably eating chips of Hoy once or twice I'm not passing judgment I'm just trying to paint a picture you might be eating Pringles two or three times a week and you're maybe cooking with seed oils or going to Chick-fil-A which Cooks in seed oils you might be getting take out one day a week from a Chinese restaurant that cooks in soybean oil so you see this is all cumulative so any one of these things could you
eat two Oreos a week and probably not impact your quality of life yeah but at some point it's all cumulative and and all of these things contain ingredients especially the seed oils which accumulate in our bodies some of these things contain ingredients that transiently affect our gut Flora but at some level if you're consistently eating Ultra processed food with ingredients that your lineage would not recognize from two or three generations ago great grandmothers you're you're essentially tonically consistently affecting your your physiology negatively okay so then then the question for me would be the following so
somebody who drinks these drinks it's part of their lifestyle they have one a day uh sales offices uh guys who feel like they need energy middle of the day crash at 2 3:00 after they come back from lunch and you're like okay Paul so let's just say you're saying that how do I naturally increase my energy what do I do for me not to have the you know afternoon crash for me to wake up a lot of fire and energy what can I eat naturally to increase energy that doesn't affect me you know doesn't affect
my health negative negatively so the the interesting answer to this question is it it's it's holistic right you kind of have to back up and and I can try and brainstorm in the moment and tell you what I would do if I needed more energy but it's also you said you come back from lunch and you're crashing so I'm going to ask you what did you eat for breakfast and what did you eat for lunch because it's sometimes it's what you want to do for energy and sometimes it's things you should not be doing earlier
in the day that are affecting your energy negatively so the first thing I would say is how well did you sleep the night before right how much blue light did you have on your phone how much TV did you watch how long were you scrolling how much did you completely disrupt your circadian rhythm before you went to sleep how dark is your bedroom is it really dark or is it a lot of lights in which you're changing your Sleep Quality because if you have a bad night of sleep and again you start to see that
this really is all connected everything is connected here it's hard to say this one thing is the answer but if you're if you had a bad night of sleep you're really not going to feel great you're not going to be as intelligent as clear thinking as you possibly could be so from the get-go you are going to wake up cranky foggy in your brain you're going to Crave junk foods and if that's what's in your house you're going to eat some Oreos you're going to eat some chips aoy you're going to drink a Monster or
a Celsius before you go to work and you've essentially already set yourself up for a 2m crash there's really nothing you could do to avoid that and then you're on this hamster wheel you're on this vicious cycle you cannot avoid that 2m crash so you have to do things as well as you can throughout the day and I'm not trying to paint a picture that's impossible for people to do I just want people to understand that it's connected with everything you do okay so but but here's what I want to do like I think to
everything when you want to make progress there's level one level two level three level four level five okay the level five people will get to but walk me through somebody it's like like for me it started off you know uh uh July of 2019 I'm having lunch at The Breakers Hotel and my CFO Ian is sitting there fully in shape in his at 46 years old he ran a 450 Mile and he said that in the interview and I heard him he was my CFO for 3 years and I said so I notice you don't
drink soda he says I don't I was drinking three Coke Zeros a day at the time and he says no he says 7 years ago I stopped drinking Coke and I haven't had any soda sin I said really he said yes I said you know what I'm going to try and I have a Coke Zero sitting in front of me we're at Breakers in a Lobby my CIO uh David is sitting there and I said you know what I'm going to go a week without any soda the last time I had Coke Sprite any kind
of soda was July of 2019 so to me that was easy just one thing to get rid of right if you were to make it very ele mentary say if you want to go at least with this cut this number two is do this number three is and if you're really really fully committed level five is this what would you say to people okay yes um and then I'll answer your question about a natural form of energy please so I think liquid calories and soda that's a great place to start you've seen it work you
know stop drinking soda number one right but that means diet soda too so stop drinking any type of soda I don't do any soda yeah no soda no diet soda no regular soda and I think in connection with that why not get rid of the energy drinks right so no soda no energy drinks what you are drinking is water Spring Water carbonated water peligrino or a fresh pressed juice and I think it's fine to drink uh an orange juice if it's fresh pressed you want a good quality orange ke W is fresh pressed yeah you
want it to be as as good as possible there was recently some stuff that came out and again I'm not trying to make this impossible for people some stuff came out about some of these packaged orange juices with high levels of pfas which are forever chemicals in the juice so yeah you you want to get a juicer you want to make your own juice you can add some cucumber juice in there whatever you want but liquids should be water um we can talk about tea and and the potential upsides and downsides of tea um I
just did a post on this so some tea bags actually release a significant amount of microplastics into the water so but let's just start with the liquids right so just cut out soda and energy drinks and you're doing you're doing amazing Y how about tier two then you want to think about this kind of stuff snacks so don't do any of these kind of snacks right any snack between meals has to be fruit or something that's less problem almonds are not good read the ingredients all right again they make it impossible to read it right
what is the ingredients Rob can you pull this up cuz I can't even see where the ingredients are could you tell me the brand if you don't mind Kirkland Kirkland almonds Kirkland dry roasted almonds yeah dry roasted almonds if you want to see this yourself uh is that the one almond sea salt peanut oil what's the last thing on that peanut oil it's a seed oil okay so that's a problem for humans got it I think yeah because almonds and salt right those are ingredients your great-grandmother would recognize peanut oil no she would not know
what that is got it okay so again yeah and we'll we'll break down the whole seed oil thing because it's very contentious okay so fa tier one soda diet or regular whatever it is number two is any kind of and by the way including energy drinks cut it out two you're saying anything like this chips you know uh uh even the almonds with the peanut oil in it what else snacks for for level two snacks should be things like fruit or cheese again so make your snacks things that you're great cheese cheese yeah what kind
of cheese you know there's a lot of good cheeses out there not craft singles right not American cheese because it's not actually really cheese they can't call it cheese but if you go to the grocery store and you buy any cheese that's actually really cheese that's much better than any of this right now unless give me an like be specific cheddar cheese moner cheese cheddar cheese what brand I mean I would love a raw cheddar cheese you know if you really want to get good on cheese let's have a raw cheese and un just look
at it just to kind of uh yeah yeah of course I know we're not getting no sponsorship money here but it's the ultimate way because we're just so raw cheddar cheese yeah so this one I like this one down there you saw it from raw Farm they have a raw cheddar cheese yeah I know these guys I've been to their Farm in California I've seen them um so I've been to the farm that makes this I've been to their actually their Dairy this is good this is great I've been to their processing I've seen this
cheese being made which is why I like them fantastic yeah so okay so cheese raw cheddar cheese um great so tier one we got tier two we got what's tier three I'm a little bit more committed what do you what do you challeng I think when you get to tier three you have to start thinking about removing processed foods from your meals and cutting out fast food at your meals so we started with drinks we went to snacks then let's go to your meals you got to stop eating junk food and fast food at your
meals so tier three would be don't ever eat at a processed food fast food restaurant for your meals what fast food restaurant can I go to if I'm somebody that's super busy I don't have time to prep my meal I just want to go somewhere that's healthy eat it and leave what would you recommend that somewhat you know qualifies it as healthy for you so it's not so there's a couple of ways you can hack this if you go to a fast food restaurant and you get a burger that without the bun and without the
sauce um you can get like lettuce and tomato Tomatoes but don't get the burger with the bun cuz the bun has in many cases 40 to 50 ingredients in a bun P it's crazy you can't go to Chick-fil-A so Chick-fil-A is completely off the menu but you can actually go to uh Five Guys you know I was in the airport yesterday and um a guy said hey I just went to Five Guys and I said okay what'd you get he said I got a burger with just lettuce and tomato I was like that's great that's
actually not bad a lot of these restaurants don't cook the hamburgers in seed oils they're cooking on a griddle they're cooking it in the animal fat look the meat in that burger could be better quality we're just painting a Continuum here but if you get the burger without the bun and you just get like animal style burger that's not the right terminology it's just like the Paleo Burger whatever no bun no sauce because all the sauces at these places have high fructose corn syrup or these pure sugars that are harmful for the gut or they
have seed oils you can do okay so if you're absolutely in a rush you can go to In-N-Out and get Five Burgers and lettuce and tomato I'm not a fan of the cheese cuz it's going to be American cheese and that has its own issues but look if you get a burgers in and out with American cheese you're doing way better than the fries cooked in peanut oil and you're doing way better than the bun Okay cool so third phase is anything fast food you know drop that from your diet on what you're doing because
that's processed food processed food what's tier four I think at tier four we're starting to go to grocery stores for the majority of our food and you're actually cooking for yourself most of the time and at that point you can start to think okay I'm going to eat the majority of my food as single ingredient Foods that's such a powerful level p so if you eat most of your food as foods without labels you're going to be healthy hands down it's it's impossible not to be healthy as long as you're eating some meat and some
plants you're going to be healthy eating single ingredient foods and these are things like meat I don't care what kind chicken fish Pork yeah um any of these foods are fine eggs milk even if it's I'm a fan of raw milk that's a whole separate conversation but you want to do regular milk fine but single ingredient Foods that's so powerful so I would say tier four is do do 60 to 70% of your food as single ingredient Foods now that comes with an onus and that is the responsibility that you have to cook these things
okay and you have to prepare all right so what's what's the last one cuz you said phone you know you said watch time light sleep right what would you put as tier five well is tier five the ultimate have another one we can it's up to you what would you put as tier five so tier five is just eating eating very very well right and then tier six and seven might be thinking about the lifestyle I'm just I'm food Focus so we've we' only thought about food we can keep going in terms of the lifestyle
stuff later but just think about your food I want people to have like you said I like this perspective let's make it simple and straightforward hey guys I am Paul saladino you can find me on man if you have any questions about diet Health recovering from chronic illness or autoimmune disease I'm excited to connect with you guys all there and I'll see you in there the way this question was started is we're looking at these energy drinks and then I asked you so hey how do I replace this with natural and then you said hey
you have to battle is you know your sleep your you're watching your is it your bom is there lights available you know so naturally what can I do to increase my energy any of that stuff you want to cover I want to hear all of it so sleep so the two biggest levers I think for humans are food and sleep and sleep is a huge thing and it's often underrated it's not sexy it's almost become sexy to say that I don't need sleep and I think that um a lot of people could perform better if
they had more sleep I am I don't know how Donald Trump does it he's he's a force of nature I've heard he sleeps four to 5 hours a night I can't do it right I can't do it I mean you and I were in DC for the inauguration I went to a ball one night I was up until 1:30 in the morning I went to the Maha ball the next night I was up until 1:30 in the morning that is not my normal at all I I never do this so my circadian with was completely
messed up but most of the time my intention is to get to sleep at the same time of night every night so getting a specific bedtime it doesn't have to be a certain time but you want it to be about the same every night you don't want to really vary when you go to sleep so if you want to go to sleep at 10: or 10:30 go to sleep then and make that your consistent bedtime most of the time I'm in Costa Rica I go to sleep around 8: or 8:30 I go to sleep very
early because the sun goes down at 6 I'm by the equator and I have two hours of darkness before I go to sleep and I'm thinking about the lights in my house um and we'll talk about lights in a minute but then I'm getting up whenever my body wants to get up a lot of people have to do alarms but 99 plus% of humans really benefit from getting s to eight hours of sleep at night we have to do that and I know that there are constraints children and all of these um in demands on
our time but if you can get 7 to eight hours of sleep every night you're going to show up better for your family for your kids you're going to be kinder to your spouse you're going to be more patient with your children you're going to be better at your job there's studies that people who sleep more earn more because you're so much more productive and you're so much sharper and better at your job when I was in medical school there was this culture of I'm going to pull in all nighter that's the worst thing that
I could have ever done and I don't think I ever did it once in medical school because you're not going to do as well as you think you're going to do on the test you don't need to study more you need for your brain to sleep we just we require sleep as humans so protecting your sleep is so critical and that means having Bright Lights during the day and darkness at night so bright days and dark nights that is a pattern that is associated with longevity but you think about what we where we live now
as humans we live in like Eternal gray and we're starting to get into Lifestyles so it's a shift for people to think about but how many of us are spending a significant amount of time Outdoors we spend 94 plus% of our time indoors as humans and in your car counts as indoors because none of the infrared radiation from the Sun is is benefiting you when you're behind those glass windows in your car so it's really this whole huge shift but we need to be outdoors more during the day and you want to start your day
with bright sunlight in your eyes you want to get outdoors and I'm not saying look directly at the sun I'm not telling people to harm their eyes I'm just saying you need to be outdoors without sunglasses on in the morning this is how you set your circadian rhythm let's talk about the sleep okay and you said something about uh uh Trump 4 hours 5 hours right one day one of these guys buy me this ring and they say pack can you watch buy uh uh put the ring on or ring yeah to see how much
sleep you need and whatever you're doing and they'll notice my pattern and so oh you're only getting four hours 5 hours 6 hours but the the a ring showed that I'm in Ram longer than other people are in Ram okay faster so somebody may sleep 8 hours but they they only go REM for an hour 2 hours 3 hours and I'll go REM no problem and and the levels of it obviously that you go through so then there's this article I'm I'm just going to rob you if you can just pull it up there's an
article that talks about and tell me what you what you think about this Gene identified in people who need little sleep scientists identified a gene that causes people to naturally sleep less than 6 hours and a half right and without any apparent ill effects the findings reveals a mechanism affect quantity Sleep Quality sleep and suggest an Avenue to investigate for new sleep treatments getting enough sleep is important healthy sleep go a little bit lower rrap to see what's the gene that he's talking about in here uh uh where is it a previous Studies have shown
that okay there it is using whole exom genome sequence and the researchers researched for gene mutations that only the naturally short sleepers had they found a rare mutation in the adrb1 gene that was being passed through the family family members who inherited one copy of this mutant Gene had a shortened sleep cycle the adrb1 Gene codes for the B1 uh agrogenic receptor are found on many cells in the body and respond to hormones including those known to regulate sleep wake Cycles so what do you say when some people you literally you watch him this guy's
78 years old going on four hours is it because of a special gene they have what's the reason it's not like President Trump's diet's better than yours no it's not cuz he's a big fan of McDonald's but I want but I want to work with him this is the ultimate goal like how incredible would it be if you think he's going to listen to you I hope so I don't know if he would but I would love to see you know why he won't because in the way he is wired is for 78 he's work
it's worked for him he fears that even if he listens to you it may make it messed up for him that's probably how would think but are there people that because of their genetics and their DNA and their wiring they just don't need sleep as much as another person does it's very rare it's very rare like I said less than 1% of the population okay so I'm I'm with that L very rare maybe Trump has it I hope he does you know because we need him to function well we need Elon to function well we
need V and JD Vance we need these guys to function well but yeah I hope that at some point I get to help these guys lose weight this I'll just say this because I think it would be so cool how inspirational would it be to the country if Trump lost 20 pounds or 30 pounds because I'm super excited about this make America healthy again movement and what Bob's going to do but to work with JD or to work with with Trump like millions and millions of Americans would be so inspired if they lost weight and
so my pitch to Trump would be this Mr President you never have to eat a salad I can help you lose 30 pounds and you get to eat steak and apples and fruit you're funny all the time you're funny because have you seen the picture and I want to go back to this Gene for sleeping I want to identify this have you seen a picture of uh uh him on the uh Trump uh his plane and him Bobby and they're all eating Big Max and Bobby's face right there is the best look at this here
so it's Trump it's speaker Johnson Junior musk and look at zoom in on Bobby's face zoom in on his face Rob look how keep going keep going Rob he looks he looks miserable and I look at Trump's face he looks so happy he's so happy at his face but even next to Bobby you see Coke right you see a different things that he's got there and next to Trump is that orange juice what is that orange soda in the background orange soda so let me tell you about this photo I went to DC for Maha
and I brought by food and I you know I they the security wouldn't let me actually hand him a bag but I gave him a bag of food the same kind of stuff I brought for you and I'm not here to plug my products I don't care about this but I brought him these things I brought him jerky with just grass-fed meat and vinegar and salt I brought him protein powder from this is a company that I built called lineage yeah yeah so but and again I'm not trying to plug my products I just I
brought these for you to try right now so I brought these for Bobby I brought this 2dc for him and I gave his security a bag of this stuff because I wanted him to have healthy foods on the go because I never want this to happen to Bobby again I never wanted him to get stuck I never want another photo like this to happen with Bobby in my lifetime you should try this one too so those are meat sticks that you're eating and look at the I mean read the ingredients on that Pat like we
were reading ingredients you know okay so just one oh you can read let's start with the air air dried steak because it's so simple this one yeah look at the ingredients on that which one you want me to read it here or no no no just the the ingredient 100% grass-fed beef organic apple cider vinegar salt that's it um red dye I'm kidding I wanted to see your reaction but would your would your grandmother recognize those ingredients she she would God blesser soul I think both of them would recognize it they would recognize it and
that that was the reason I built this company was to kind of fight back against big food by making foods like this more convenient for people and it's not even dry why is it not dry because the quality the so good it's air dried oh my God I thought it was going to be like those dry this is this is dry than this this is delicious easy to chew on it's amazing air dried steak classic and again this is like it's grass-fed grass finished meat so this is possible I want people to understand this is
possible where can people find this it's online so lineage provisions.com okay let's put the link 16 grams of protein four servings per yeah so really this is 64 g of protein 64 g of protein in that in that bag 64 G oh my God delicious animal protein yeah I'll get you more wow and okay please can so let's go back to if you don't mind I want to in this part here with Trump and Bobby and McDonald's and what he does you know I saw your video 10 months ago where you're talking about McDonald's you
walk in there and you'd have the quarter pounder I think you have the quarter pounder and the fries and you show the fries has 18 different ingredients like why do you need 18 different ingredi but then you see Trump goes out there Works fast with and makes the fries and he brings all the eyeballs to it go back to sleep okay sleep yeah from the people that you've met some people are going to say I'm one that can go without sleep okay and they're not and some people know they can and typically everybody around them
knows they can and they'll say look I can't hang like the way you hang right but the people that can go on four to six hours not only do they know the people around them know because it's abnormal right probably but to the average person sleep phone how much of somebody being on the phone i' before they go to sleep on 2 hours does it hurt them with their energy the next day it's very disruptive so phones again we're getting a different rabbit hole but this is fascinating phones are very addictive and they're very problematic
for sleep for a number of reasons on your phone at night it's a very small phone so your eyeballs have to focus in on it and it's flickering phones flicker around 480 Hertz so 480 cycles per second and that flicker rate I think is particularly disruptive for the human circadian rhythm and our sympathetic nervous system you ever been on you know at night when you're on the Highway and the police come by and maybe they don't even have their sirens on but you see their lights flickering you are drawn to that like a moth to
a flame the human eye the human brain is drawn to flickering lights like nothing else it's so we cannot ignore it this is Vegas right you have flickering Neon Lights you can't look away and so that this is purposefully designed in the phone to keep your attention on the phone and that flickering light is I think disruptive for our sympathetic nervous system this is the fight or flight nervous system flickering lights not at the phone level but like flickering lights are used in medicine to induce seizures in humans in those patients that are susceptible to
epilepsy so flickering lights we know can be stressful for the human body can be stressful for our nervous system and we are almost all of us and I'm not immune from this right are looking at our phones right before we go to sleep and we are looking at flickering lights and it is affecting our nervous system and is affecting your sleep you should be able to go to sleep to get in your bed and fall asleep within 5 minutes 3 minutes you should be out if you are laying in bed asleep and you cannot fall
asleep there is a problem with something in your life it could be your diet it could be your light environment but I would encourage people to think about light as a food also and light as a nutrient and when you are ready and you want to clean up your light environment it is so powerful for your light also for your for your so what should one do with their phones next to their bed before they go to sleep well your phone shouldn't be next to your bed it definitely should be on airplane mode you should
be charging it away from your bed you should not have your phone sitting next to your bed I mean this gets into the conversation around EMF right so RF EMF radio frequency EMF is what's coming out of your phone and what's coming out of your Wi-Fi router but by far by far the biggest exposure that humans get to radio frequency EMF is from your phone so you look at my phone you see how it's on airplane mode everywhere I go I don't need to be on my phone right now we're doing a podcast but everywhere
I go unless I'm on the phone my phone is on Full airplane mode because I don't want to be exposed to extra RF EMF and this is very contentious issue I've talked about this and gotten fact checked and censored and people will say rfmf is nonionizing it's not harmful for humans and there are literally hundreds potentially more than a thousand studies on radio frequency EMF suggesting that it could have damage to human tissues not at the same level that a an x-ray would be or something that's ionizing but at the level of receptors and channels
and ions in the cells and DNA damage and low levels of oxidative stress so the issue is this we simply do not know how harmful this is to humans long term we don't have the studies and cell phone companies are really suppressing this data and they're not really looking for this in a in a enthusiastic manner so there is evidence in humans this is associational observational evidence that men who walk around with their cell phones in their pockets have lower sperm counts and lower sperm motility and there's evidence in a Petri dish that if you
put a cell phone and you put St sperm in a Petri dish above the cell phone that the sperm motility change changes and they look like they're not as healthy so RF EMF can you please say please don't try this at Home Folks he's just telling this that's scientific I don't want some people go test this out don't put your sperm in a pach that's what I'm saying you you're going to say people right now they're going to pause the video go to the bathroom and just go do it that's fine with me like let
me know what you guys find do video this I was watching a Paul saladino video with pbd and decided to go to the bathroom and this is what happened to it watch 10 people are going to do it yeah yeah no but it's there's evidence of this and I can send you the study if you want to put it in the show notes but I just want to make sure you take ownership but people do do it they post it that this was your idea my idea so let me ask let me ask you a
weird question with this because uh I'm curious to know what you say with this so you know for us we're I'm in business I've been in business for a long time so I I'm I'm the guy that Nextel calls me one day and I'm on a phone with them we're talking next H days which is what 20 years ago 19 years ago and they asked me a question I'll never forget this it was they said can we ask you we got a group of us we are really trying to find out what you do with
your phone I said what what do you mean how did you send 51,000 text messages this month and to them that was the highest one so they're like we've never seen this before so I said what do you mean I have this group text for this I have that group text for this and I'm driving sales team and I'm doing this but they said 51,000 I said just go look it you have access to it so they were looking at it so me driving your here your access your data all this other stuff one of
the things I noticed happening just a few weeks ago was my hand was getting hot okay not the phone was hot hot my hand was getting hot that I switched to the left hand right just because this hand was getting hot okay what is that from where you're feeling a little bit of tension and the and and your hand getting hotter and it's even little bit when you're trying to flex it or go like this you feel a little bit of pain you feel something you probably need to see a psychiatrist no I'm joking that's
what somebody would say that you're crazy but I've had this subjective experience also if you look online a lot of people feel this when they're holding your phone you feel something in your hand what is it it's probably related to these RF so radio frequency EMF that energy coming off your phone so RF EMF this is like your phone is essentially a little microwave pad I can take an EMF meter and show you the RF EMF coming off your microwave which is exactly essentially exactly the same frequency coming out of your phone it's the same
your phone is a little microwave and the problem with this radiation is that when you have a lot of it it Heats tissues up but at a low level we really fully don't know what this is doing to all of the cells in your hand or on your head in your ear or your salivary glands in your mouth or in your testicles if you're carrying your phone next to your balls or a woman carrying her phone next to her ovaries or in a sports bra next to memory endocrine um tissue in the breast we do
not know what this does long term you know three days ago you could have said or a woman carrying her for next or testicles but yester audience not confused things have changed yeah that's the part where I'm holding I'm like what is going on with this right and you're kind of feeling it sleep stay on sleep by the way I'm eating this because it's really that good and he's not paying me for this I'm just telling you guys I like this a lot it's good stuff my mouth is Fuller but let me tell you this
here I'm 46 in my 30s I'd sleep through the night in my 40s I have to wake up once to go to the bathroom every night okay and a lot of my friends deal with that as well Vinnie and I were talking about this some are one some two some are three that they go through night mhm one is that just you're aging two what can you do to not go through don't drink a lot of water before you go to sleep what is it to do to make sure you sleep through the night without
having to go to the bathroom so I hate when people say you're getting older so this is the response this is the the party line in medical school your patients are getting [ __ ] it's it's absolute bull like it's not that you're getting if your doctor ever tells you because you're getting older you got to find a new doctor it's because of something you're doing in your life most of the time with nocturia which is nighttime urination there are a couple of things that can happen you can have a prostate issue the prostate can
start to get a little more swollen which is not a normal thing to happen like if you are a healthy human your prostate should not be getting swollen in your 40s and 50s um and also I think that if you want to pee less at night it is important to drink the majority of your water in the first 10 hours of the day water fluid at all so if you get up say you get up at 6:00 a.m. you really want to be done with the majority of your water by 400 p.m. oh wow wow
yeah 400 p.m. wow so so after 4: you shouldn't be drinking water if if you got up if you got your water up if you got if you got up at 6: a.m. so first 10 hours of the day you want most of your fluid and you know really independent and I did a piece of content about this on my Instagram and I think I did a YouTube video about it also it doesn't really matter your body weight humans need about the same amount of fluid every day it's really is about 8 to 10 glasses
of water but it can also be other fluids so in a day I'll drink raw milk I'll drink orange juice that's fresh squeezed I'll drink water and it really is about 8 to 10 glasses of fluid per day but that can be mixed right it doesn't have to just be pure water but you want to get the majority of that in the first 10 hours of the day and then taper off toward the end of the day and then you have to remember like I said earlier caffeine is a diuretic and some other foods are
diuretic so if you're drinking your coffee at 2: p.m because you're getting the lull you're going to have peeing at night the other thing to understand about caffeine is this and I didn't mention it earlier and I'm glad I'm thinking about it now the halflife of caffeine is about 5 hours which means that if you drink coffee at noon and you go to sleep at 10:00 p.m. about a quarter of the uh caffeine is still in your system so imagine that you drink coffee at noon and you still have say you have one cup of
coffee at noon it's 200 milligrams of caffeine which is normal that's like a big that's like a big glass of coffee at Starbucks you have one big Starbucks at noon a quarter of that caffeine 50 milligrams of caffeine is still in your system affecting your sleep architecture when you go to sleep at 10 p.m. so it's important to understand that caffeine sticks with you in order to get rid of a substance in medicine and pharmaco kinetics we think four and a half half lives if the half life of coffee is five hours give or take
you would need right uh upwards of 16 to 18 hours to get rid of all that caffeine and there's only 24 hours in the day yeah so the concern for me is that a lot of people are drinking coffee too late in the day and that that is affecting your sleep architecture negative well we have a friend whose name is Mario agular we have we have come to a conclusion Rob he's a little bit off and he does very well with us and he's been working with me for almost 20 years 19 and a half
years this guy drinks six cups of coffee a day he drinks a double shot of uh what is it not espr what is the one that he does double shot of a I think it is espresso before he goes to sleep at night at 9:00 he sleeps to heavy metal music okay okay and it does nothing to him so Mario you're weird when it comes on to Coffee none of us drink as much coffee as you do however to the rest of us in the world I the last time I drank coffee was was I
was 25 years old I was given a sales presentation in Eno on on Victory and Balo off right across the street from uh Birmingham high school and I drank two cups of coffee I went in there I gave the talk I said I can never drink coffee ever again the last time I had it I was 25 years old and I'm 46 so I don't do coffee it's bad for me do you do caffeine it it was caffeine yeah when I had it it was it was caffine caffeine now do you drink things with caffeine
is that caffeinated tea or is that so I want to ask you this question this is where I'm going to and and I said this is the one question I don't want to ask you if you see this question it's because I took a risk because I'm going to hear it from my wife that's going to say this and please don't share this with my wife all right here we go all right I love Arnold Palmer okay and I do 8020 okay okay Arnold Palmer the real won the golfer we met God bless his soul
we met him at a restaurant called 610 Magnolia and I don't like Golf and I don't golf so I come out I said are you Arnold pal says I am he said I got to tell you man most probably most people probably compliment you on your swing you have the greatest drink in the world okay but I do 8020 80 IC tea 20 lemonade uhhuh and if I go to a restaurant I will have three four five glasses of Arnold Palmer 8020 tell me why scientifically this is amazing for me so I can continue to
drink Arnold Palmer and please make sure you get your act right cuz I wouldn't be too happy about it if you tell me it's not good for me so just so I know because I've never had an Arnold Palmer there's no alcohol in this train no no it's just purely iced tea and lemonade ice tea and lemonade okay so can we talk about tea for a minute sure please for so I did a real about this recently and it went pretty viral so I want to mention this to people you need to know what's in
the tea bags because some tea bags release massive amounts of microplastics into your tea and they're making iced tea so they're not Brewing it with hot water presumably which may make a big difference in a positive way but when people are making hot tea anytime you're putting hot water onto plastic it's a very bad idea but I was really surprised to learn that even the cellulose tea bags use some sort of plastic to seal the bag the worst tea bag in the study were the plastic tea bags have you seen these they're kind of like
paramal tea bags they're kind of fancy tea bags of course they're made from plastic and those tea bags released a massive amount of microplastics microplastics have gotten a lot of press recently they're in our testicles they're ovaries they're in our brains right um there's some nonzero amount yes those those tea bags those release according to the study billions of plastics of microparticles into a tea that you're Brewing so that looks really fancy right like that that plastic tea pyramid looks very fancy but that is a very big problem in terms of microplastics and again throughout
this podcast I just want to say this to people perfect do not let perfect be the enemy of good I'm just giving you guys ideas and people can incorporate them however they want in their life I'm not trying to make an impossible standard for people but I think knowledge is power know better do better so know what's in your tea bag and use tea bags that are lower microplastic or I think if you're going to have tea use a loose leaf tea that you are brewing in a tea basket have you seen these like stainless
steel tea baskets you can use a loose leaf tea that would be the best way to do tea because tea is a pretty big exposure for people in microplastics and I was not aware of this until I found this article recently so I'm hoping your honold Palmer is probably not the worst thing in the world because oh my God this is like because it's because it's ice tea right if they're not but sometimes people make ice tea they brew it with hot water and then they chill it so if you're actually making IC tea and
you're just using a tea bag and cold water you're going to release less microplastics it's okay the problem with the the Arnold promer is when are you drinking it in the day and how much caffeine is it and is that affecting your sleep architecture negatively and the only way to really know this is to do something like an aura ring or a subjective analysis of this and say how do I feel without caffeine if I'm sleeping how does my sleep feel in terms of restorative quality almost a 90% of the Arnold Palm I drink is
after 600 p.m. okay I got you that's so that's the problem it could be affecting your Sleep Quality negatively but I'm glad you're not drinking a Monster after 6 no there's no way in the world that can do something like that okay so so we got so by the way I brought my vitamins okay we had a once year I host a conference called The All Conference for business owners Executives around the world that come uh two years ago we had Tom Brady at the event uh last year we had uh the Rock at the
event nearly 6,000 people showed up this year we're doing it at the Gaylord Orlando we're expecting 12,000 people to be at the event and Executives private Equity hedge fund uh salese sales Executives and this last year a friend I've known for since I was 23 23 years ago Manny sas's pad what vitamins do you take are you on trt are you on this are you on that are you on this I said I'm not on trt I was on trt 5 years ago for 6 weeks but I had a breakout and my body was so
hot on that I couldn't go to sleep I'm like I can't do this because I'm already hot to add that it even elevat so I 6 weeks I I'm I'm out I'm not touching this these are the vitamins I take okay I want to show it to you and I try to take these every day I don't get to them every day but the goal is to take these tell me what you think about the vitamins I'm taking and say I don't think you need this this is a waste of time this is good that
you're taking this so I'm going to look at this but I would also have to see the food that you're eating in a day right because food is primary for me so I'll tell you what I do so in the morning breakfast I only eat breakfast on uh Saturdays and Sundays every day I start off with a protein drink that I uh take what's the protein drink can you pull up the protein drink I take Rob I hope there's no natural flavors in there pad at this point of the game I I know what's going
by the time I'm done with you I can't eat anything at all period that's the that's not it Rob protein sh is that the milk type in uh uh uh um whoever is back there Kelly if you have one of the protein drinks no you don't have them you just I'm going to send you the the protein from lineage so this company we also make a protein powder okay and I made it so that I would drink I drink core powder super clean so let's find it go to core powder uh protein and then we're
going to compare if you if we can and we'll get to your vitamins we're going to compare the ingredients in your protein to like the lineage protein that I'm going to send you this is oh this is what you drink yes oh bad all right um is that what I drink what are you guys laughing at in the back bring the drink I can hear these guys look at these guys you're entertaining them I'm just going to make it easier for you right here oh my goodness we're doing this Rob we are doing this okay
so first ingredient filtered lowfat grade a milk we can talk about it I I think milk fat is very beneficial for humans and you want you want whole milk if you're drinking milk preferably um preferably you want a raw milk or an A2 milk we'll get to all that um there's a lactase enzyme in here which is for people that are lactose intolerant I have no problem with that sea salt we're doing great but then Pat we get to AK which is asul Fame potassium and they wrote it out as asop Fame potassium they didn't
say a so that's an artificial sweetener in here and we go back to the artificial sweetener little bit that I mentioned earlier we really don't know that these are safe for humans they definitely affect your gut flora and they're potentially affecting neurom metabolically how your body responds to insulin and how your body manages calories so I think that you need to not have any artificial sweeteners in your diet and there's one in your in your chocolate protein drink the next ingredient is very interesting it's kagenin and this is a problem for humans so kerogen and
there's recently been some articles talking about kerogen and it's a sulfated polysaccharide derived from algae but the problem is that in the processing of kerogen in there are breakdown products of kerogen that look to be quite harmful for the human gut so I don't think kerogen should be in any of our Foods it's a it's a form of a thickener it's used to make this thicker so it feels like a milkshake but kerogen and is quite potentially damaging your gut yeah next ingredient is monk fruit fruit uh juice concentrate look in terms of sweeteners that's
probably the the most benign but I I I still have some issues with monk fruit sweetener um maltodextrin is a essentially a form of sugar um you have cellulose uh gum which is also probably not great for your gut Stevia leaf extract I'm not a fan of even Stevia I think is not great for humans but we can talk about why sucrose is another artificial sweetener and then you have vitamin A palmitate which is sort of a um a food form of vitamin A I would rather you just get vitamin A from egg yolks or
or other forms of vitamin A and then you have D3 um and that's it so we have the biggest offenders in here are the artificial sweeteners so AK and sucrose the gums so cellulose gum and uh kagenin so the reason you drink this presumably is to get protein so I think protein shakes are great for people on the go you can make this much cleaner and the other thing to consider and again I don't want people to say that I'm just making this impossible it's in plastic right so how long has it been sitting on
the shelf micras you're suting only buy protein drinks in glass they probably don't make any of them they don't make it it's going to break Paul's not making things easier right now so okay so I start off with this then lunch my chef brings me my meal and it'll typically be uh uh chicken fish protein soup and obviously you need to know where there's proc by the way about 2 years ago we cleaned house of the closet we got rid of the not the closet the uh what do you call it the uh Pantry we
got rid of 100% of cereal our kids don't eat any cereal we literally we came and say what do we need to get rid of and I was Shell Shocked how many things we have to get rid of right but still we're Middle Eastern I am not everything is gone but for the most part the food I eat at lunch is good then at night I go back he cooks again I have the meal with him and then uh we're done so that's what I'm eating throughout the day what is he cooking that what what
does he cook in you we have to you want me to call Jen real quick I'm going to call him right now Bo let's just call him right now let's do it let's call him right now hang on one second because I love that you're eating if if lunch and dinner Pat are basically protein and vegetables we're great as long as he's not cooking in a seed oil well let's ask him right now and by the way for those watching Paul is on man you can man him and ask him any questions you have on
man um all right so let's see this here if he picks up Alper you're on the podcast they can hear you and uh just say hello to everybody hi everyone okay Alper question for you what kind of oil do you use when you cook meals what oil do you use uh normally I use avocado oil okay okay what do you think about that avocado oil is not a seed oil so it's better than seed oils we can talk about potential problems with avocado okay what other questions you have for him I would be curious to
see the actual avocado oil he's using but what I would recommend he cooking for you so the ideal would be an animal fat animal fat a tallow is like a butter a butter or a ghee or a talli butter better than avocado oil okay so what what else would you say because he'll do he'll make uh different types of meals soup uh rice but we don't do a lot of rice cuz we've cut a lot of the rice Alper maybe maybe tell him a breakdown of what some of the meals may look like sure like
know lunch is normally goes like you know absolutely like no soup which I just want to like know Pro some liquid and absolutely like no salad like know with some like know heavy greens like you know with tomatoes and uh the main meal is just like you know protein carb and just no vegetables what questions you have for yeah it sounds it sounds pretty good off top of my head I mean if it sounds like he's making the food from single ingredient foods which is great aler what did we change the last two years from
the moment we you to now what did we change dramatically with our food sugar definitely can you can you be more specific what part like a dessert you know so like you know I'm not using any kind of like added sugar you know so if we just like you know get sugar like know we get like no sugar from like an onion you know so but that like no sugar is just like essential of like no sugar love it so than that yeah okay we yeah Alper thank you by by the way Alper is also
on my neck just so you guys know you can ask me question as well Alper thank you thank you all right so I'm going to call now my wife if you don't mind okay I want you I want her to tell you what things we cut from uh since and by the way she followed you way before I followed you she's a big fan of yours for years she's been following you thank she said babe do you know this guy named Paul I like what he talks about I'm like babe who is Paul I'm like
oh Paul She uh she's in the office but she's probably a meeting so if she'll call me um hello okay so when she's out she'll call me so okay so that's so that's the meal right then on the weekend I'll make omelet for myself and the kids and the family and I'll make that omelette you know Saturdays and Sundays but I don't drink if I do I'll have an oldfashioned once a month uh and I'll talk to you about cigars and all that other stuff here in a minute but specifically to what I'm breaking down
with you right now right that's what I'm going through right now what I eat not bad I mean I think pretty good so you're focusing on single ingredient Foods meat plants right um and and you're not eating a lot of this stuff and you're not eating you know I think that that that the the first thing I would do is replace the thing you're doing in the morning protein drink that protein shake needs to get better and you can have a protein drink in the morning but we're going to make it for you differently with
a better protein powder with like simple ingredients see to me it's like making go so I can have Alper Mak it absolutely the night before so I just have it and take off right right right can you do me a favor can you pull up the lineage protein I just want to show you the ingredients in our protein versus that one again people can buy whatever protein they want but I think this is the standard and why I'm so proud of it which one is it one of those um below should be the ingredients and
we'll pull it up is that it that one yeah so this is what's in our protein right so 100% grass grass-fed beef protein organic maple syrup powder grass-fed beef organs which is liver heart kidney spleen pancreas organic date powder coconut water powder grass-fed colostrum which is beneficial for the gut uh Fruit and Berry blend which is blackberries black currants grapes pomegranates blueberry cranberry raspberry uh Etc and sea salt so what's not here sucrose a kagenin no seed oils there's actually no real artificial sweeteners there's absolutely no artificial sweeteners there's no binders this is what you
want in a of protein is it um I think it's 22 or 23 per scoop um you can zoom in there 20 20 plus grams 20 plus grams okay so in the morning this no breakfast outside of this I'm good with you're not sitting here saying you should also do this you should also do this for breakfast if if a protein shake like this works for you and and that one has 42 grams of protein so you might do a scoop and a half of hours right or two scoops of hours you want that much
protein to go that's great and if you really wanted to make it amazing you could add some raw milk in there which I think is incredible there's a great producer here in Florida raw milk yeah and we can talk about raw milk if you want but you don't have to do it some people are sensitive to lactose and might not want to do that but you can put the protein powder in Juice you can put it in water but getting some protein in the morning is great um and I think that upgrading your protein shake
would be huge and again people don't have to buy this one they just I want people to understand the Simplicity of ingredients in protein powder and if your protein powder has ingredients that again your ancestors would not recognize like be skeptical okay hang on Jenice calling me give me one second okay okay Jen I'm doing a podcast with Paul saladino do you know Paul yeah of course okay uh babe what do we do with the with our uh uh Pantry two years ago when we got rid of a bunch of different things what things did
we get rid of we removed all the cereals okay amazing all of the stuff that I felt was highly processed um you know main thing I was looking for is like um stuff that wasn't like real food that the kids were eating every day which was mostly like the sugary cereals um and the like crackers and cookies we try to eliminate all that stuff but the biggest one was cereal and craft macaroni and cheese that got rid of the C that all of that love it love it used to make um got rid of all
of that um and then just started cooking real breakfast every morning versus having like cold cereals um we tried the raw milk for a little bit the kids didn't like that um so the raw dairy they're not a fan of so I just now I buy organic whole milk which is the closest thing I can get um to that you know in years in the past I didn't really pay attention to Organics yeah but I do now um Paul is suggesting if we had the resources to to buy two cows for for the backyard and
teach the kids how to you know milk the cows and I I think we have the space for it babe I don't think that we could have a cow in our neighborhood about a goat is a goat acceptable uh do you have any questions for Paul with what we have in the fridge and in the pantry since we have him here I I do um but are you are you in this studio should we're on the studio it's live if you want to come here you can come here we're over here babe but by the
way if you have other questions later on you can always man him babe he's he's on man as well okay so I should just come over come over here we're over here we're gonna wrap up in a we're gonna wrap up in 45 minutes are you recording live though babe you're literally gonna be on the podcast is what I'm saying to you so say hi to everybody okay hi everybody everybody says hi okay okay babe bye bye um the one thing I'll point out here this is an interesting conversation is the turmeric um I'm not
a huge fan of turmeric and I think that people use it as a Band-Aid so there's some evidence for turmeric with osteoarthritis pain but a lot of studies on turmeric have been fairly underwhelming and there is some evidence that turmeric and the active ingredient in turmeric kumin actually lower androgens in men so they lower testosterone and other sex hormones in men um that was a prostate cancer study so that might not be a good thing when it comes to turmeric what I tell people is don't cover your inflammation with a supplement understand what is causing
your inflammation I think that we are thinking about inflammation wrong what are your thoughts with trt you know a lot of people nowadays it's you know uh um some people are saying the other day Mark Zuckerberg getting caught you know on the camera you know making sure bezos's wife was okay is due to him possibly taking trt so he is he's extra sensitive and you know with you know your energy is fired up and what she was wearing a bra or something I don't know what it was but it was this moment where you know
and he did this without using his Facebook glasses which was kind of interesting but some are saying this could be because he's on trt he's fighting he's doing all this other stuff and he's at a different age right now than than before but what are your what are your thoughts on trt oh I saw that's so hilarious I think that a lot of men end up on trt too quickly so in in terms of men like testosterone is super valuable your brain tells your testicles to make testosterone and if a lot of men end up
on trt because they're not sleeping and eating well and if you aligned your sleep and your eating your testosterone will come back up so there's you know the a really perfect example of this is residency so after medical school we go through residency and there are long periods in residency where you don't sleep a lot and for a lot of men and a lot of male doctors their testosterone plum in residency because they're only sleeping four or five hours a night the problem here is of course that that gives a signal to your brain all
the stress gives a signal to your brain that your testicles don't need to be producing or shouldn't be producing as much testosterone so if a man and the rates of this Are Climbing has low testosterone I would say look at your lifestyle look at your sleep and your look at your diet first and a lot of times improving those things and eating more animal foods which contain many many nutrients essential for optimal testosterone production will result in your testosterone coming back up getting your testosterone from your testicles is the best thing you could do if
you absolutely need testosterone in terms of supplementation I think men should do it and they should talk to a qualified provider are you on TR like do you do trt or not no I don't have you ever done trt no I've never done it and this is interesting because I'm 47 okay and my testosterone is 8 to 900 nanograms per deciliter and I'm proud of that and I show my labs all the time I show my gatot tropin which are the signals from my brain to prove that I'm not on trt the LH and FSH
will will be suppressed if you're taking trt so I've done this I've shown my blood work because people sometimes say like you're on trt and no I'm not I've never how do you test to see if you on tr2 or not you can look at the ganat tropin so you can just get blood work for LH which is luteinizing hormone and FSH those are the signals from the pituitary gland to the testicles so you can test to see if people are on trt and it's very obvious when someone is at least in terms of their
blood work you can tell but if a man needs it you know some of these operators come back from overseas war and they have damaged testicles from concussive injuries or people can have PTSD with traumatic brain injury and sometimes the signals are not coming from the brain sometimes the testicles are actually physically damaged in rugby injuries or football injuries fine but a lot of men end up on trt and this is a symptom of the overall problem which is the fact that we are not eating and sleeping well okay so next question U next question
is is is cigars cigarettes weed vape and those nicotine p nicotin uh what do you call it not Z what is it called the Zen Zen but there's they call it something the nicotine pouches the nicotine what what out those five things if you were to say is there one that's less risky than other what would you say of the five Okay so we've got nicotine pouches yes Vape yep marijuana cigarettes and cigars yes I think cigars are the least risky okay yeah um I'm not a fan of vaping there are oils in The Vape
that have been linked to uh certain types of pneumonia in the lungs and I I just think vaping is gross and people shouldn't be doing it uh cigarettes are obviously horrible because the tobacco is full of pesticides and other additives um the marijuana is linked to all sorts of hormonal issues in humans it lowers androgens in men I think that uh for most people marijuana is is a very clearly a net negative thing in their life and then the pouches I mean look nicotine occurs naturally in the human body but they're quite addictive and I
think that they're they're sort of the next epidemic of people kind of messing with their uh neurotransmitters and these signaling molecules in the human body in a not great way and you asked me for the best one I'm not saying cigars are great but if you actually have a high quality tobacco leaf without a lot of pesticides it's I think it's the most benign of anything in there um I don't smoke I don't even smoke cigars but if you want to have a cigar every once in a while it's it's a different um actual entity
than a cigarette from Marboro got it so in other words listen that's not an endorsement of smoking cigars it's just the least of the five it's probably the least harmful of the five what was the worst you had of the five I would say the worst is probably cigarettes okay yeah yeah um interesting to see where that's you know a lot of people you you'll hear people talking about nicotine is good for you yeah we're uh even we're in uh DC and we're outside and I see this guy always in you remember this guy yeah
I see this one guy always in the morning and at night Paul he's in a corner smoking cigarettes okay so I told him I said hey John the both guys name is John I said hey I I see you in the morning and in the afternoon at night you have your cigarette appointment he says you know nicotine is actually good for you you know what they found out here's what he told me he says you know they found that in front of my two boys my 12 and 11y old son he says you know they
found out people that smoke cigarettes actually didn't get the covid uh virus as much as people who didn't SM I said so are you telling me smoking cigarettes is good for you he says no no no no no all I'm telling you is the fact that if smoke cigarettes you didn't get CO as much as people that you know were smoking cigarettes then he says what I am saying is that nicotine is good for you and you'll hear this argument being made by a lot of different people what's your AR argument to that you know
like I said nicotine occurs naturally in the human body it is a neurotransmitter um and I think that there may be some studies that suggest that it affects the brain in a positive way but there's always other side effects right so when you introduce exogenous nicotine when you introduce excess nicotine what happens with marijuana because cannabinoids occur naturally in the human body there are other Downstream effects in the human body and I think that to say that nicotine supplementation or these pouches is net positive that's a stretch yes it might make you more alert yes
there may be some data for nicotine with regard to dementia but I think it's going to have other negative effects in the human body it can raise blood pressure increase your heart rate it's not a benign substance to be just using without uh caution and I think that these pouches are quite addictive and let's be honest they're used as a drug there's no question they're used as a drug they're absolutely used as a drug these are drugs okay all right it this one to upset you a little bit you you got a little bit angry
Paul I don't want upset you while we're here together all right so a story about fluoride and water okay and the link between fluoride in water with low IQ okay you read stuff like this and you're kind of sitting there saying you know what is the level of credibility in this and it's it's been written about by different people you showed me one of the articles that you know you and I were going back and forth on so what is the link between you know High fluoride exposure that may lead to low IQs in children
there are a number of studies I think there are over 50 and they're all observational associational studies you can't really do an Interventional study with this but I believe there are over 50 studies that are associating increasing levels of fluoride with lower amounts of IQ and kids which is scary because humans don't need fluoride in the water the reason fluoride is in the water is because our diets are so bad so putting fluoride in the water it's debatable there may actually be a decrease in tooth decay at what cost potentially lower IQs and the reason
kids are getting so much tooth decay is because of right all these things that we're feeding kids and I would argue kids are having so much tooth decay because of a lack of fat soluble vitamins in their diet so when I talk about eating fruit when I talk about fruit juice when I talk about honey sometimes people say but isn't that going to increase decay in my teeth and I'll say no it won't if you are eating meat if you are eating animal Foods so the Real the full ideology the picture with tooth decay and
Cavities is Having excess sugar in your diet with an absence or a deficiency of vitamin D vitamin E vitamin A and vitamin K2 the fat soluble vitamins which occur in animal Foods predominantly are essential for the Adon blast which are the immune cells in your teeth so I'm not telling people that they should just eat fruit or just eat honey but if you are not getting fat soluble nutrients in your food which you know a lot of kids are deficient in because of uh either Financial constraints or time constraints or their parents don't understand these
things then it is ultimately that fat soluble nutrient deficiency that is leading to cavities in humans okay so high fluoride a a parent who is trying to say okay I don't want my kids to have the high fluoride water what do you look for well you can filter the water but it has to be reverse osmosis so a brida filter doesn't get fluoride out you have to do reverse osmosis in your house to get rid of the fluoride but I don't think we want fluoride in the water there are definitely some places in the world
where the water has a little bit more fluoride or less and fluoride does occur naturally in the environment but the levels that we are getting from water or from our toothpaste which kids inevitably swallow is much higher than what we need and we really are pushing way too much fluoride into children and then the problem becomes that because the fluoride is in the water system you water up a field with fluoride it goes into plants you're washing your fruits and vegetables in fluoride it's on your food so it's pervasive and I think no matter what
you going to get it no matter what because of what's being used to grow the plants grow fruit grow it's difficult the cows you're eating are fed water that potentially has fluoride in it so it's it's pervasive and the easiest thing would be removing it from your drinking water to decrease your exposure but yeah there's a lot of studies potentially linking fluoride to lower IQs it's not something we had historically right and again there's a really famous just I'll say this about tooth decay really really famous dentist in the 1940s named Weston a price he
traveled all over the world and he looked at the difference in tooth health and systemic Health in indigenous tribes people who were living traditionally and those who had become integrated into Western Society simultaneously so these are people who are the exact same bloodline similar genetics and the differences in their oral hygiene and overall health between indigenous traditional ways and westernized ways were astounding you should pick up you should find some of the photos of Weston a price and some of these people the book is nutrition and physical degeneration but if you just Google Weston a
price and um these photos will come up they are so have you seen these photos before P I have not so look at this one these are photos of traditional people there's no dentist right these are smiles from tribes people throughout the world there's no dentists there's no braces those are perfect teeth and wide Jaws these people do not brush with toothpaste they don't even floss their teeth and these there are there are hundreds of these photos in the books can you find a juxtaposition photo um of some of the people who were in The
Tribe and some of the people who were actually westernized at the same time because they have side by-side comparisons of these people and they're just striking you see one tribe's member again has this perfect smile and the other has teeth that are just falling out it's pretty incredible that's the one these all look like they have good teeth but well not the ones on the right if you go zoom in a little bit yeah yeah yeah look at the difference here yeah so the ones on the left traditional traditional diets single ingredient Foods right these
people don't have processed food some of these tribes people file their teeth down so there's a middle photo there they're filing their teeth down as part of their cultural practices but um look at the smile on the top left yep that is like the most perfect smile you've ever seen that is what happens when a child eats animal foods not exclusively animal foods but that is what happens when a child eats fat soluble vitamins and animal foods and all of these tribes prized animal Foods they had specific foods that they fed to pregnant and nursing
mothers whether it was fish eggs or certain organs of animals but this is what happens in tooth Health when you get enough fat soluble vitamins and it's not like those people weren't eating honey they eat honey they eat they eat carbohydrates they're eating potatoes you know they're eating sweet potatoes and things like this but um yeah it's just the oral health is really a window to the the lar Bobby say he wants to do with that with fluide fluoride and water I think he wants to take it out how how successful you think he could
be doing that well it's been done you can do it at a state-by-state level I mean some states can change it it's actually probably a municipality level but I think a federal mandate to REM remove fluoride would be pretty interesting I what states don't allow it do you know states that don't allow it I don't know if there's a single state there I don't know we could look it up I don't think at a state level there's any state but there certainly are counties in the US that do not fluoridate their water there it is
Hawaii is the only state that bans Flor floride floration FL floration most States leave it to individual water systems or localities yeah interesting so Hawaii is the only one Jersey less than 20% of population served by public water versus systemic gr and florider water Oregon less than 33% of population by Water Systems Idaho 34.7 then is Louisiana then Utah states with law mandating fluoridation California Delaware Georgia Illinois Kentucky Minnesota Mississippi Nebraska Nevada some communities have voted to remove fluoride from their water systems Mims water in uh bravard County Florida part of uh Gloverville South Carolina
city in Iowa Elora Syracuse Indiana colure County Florida Amory Wisconsin State College Pennsylvania rashy Creek Texas it'll be interesting to see what they do with this and if you live in a place where there is fluoride and you're drinking water just get a reverse osmosis filter you can get them at Home Depot they're a few hundred they can go under the sink do we have that babe so I have the water delivery from Crystal Springs uh and then I have a zero water filter you ever heard of zero I'm not familiar with that brand specifically
yeah Z is it Zero Water Filter yeah so it's the top yeah that's it we could just look and see if it removes fluoride do you know which one it is babe um is it just any of those it's it's it's a five stage uh filtering process that it uses and this is the one I use this one for like if we're going to make coffee or te um things like that and then the other one I have the Crystal Springs is the one that comes in the big like five gallon mhm what what's the
one you'd recommend I don't have a brand that I recommend really you can I mean most reverse osmosis will do it reverse osmosis will remove fluoride this Zero Water Filter I hadn't heard of it it says it removes fluoride um by 99% but that's that's important I think and again like tooth decay is important in kids but fluoride is not the answer it's better quality food very cool okay next question for you there's this fellow who is really trying hard to live forever did you see I have a beef with him on Twitter I know
you I saw that so this is him uh you know I I I think this is Inside Edition there's an episode of him explaining how Tycoon spends 2 million a year trying to reverse his aging Rob go ahead and play this clip this Tycoon is 45 but he wants the body of his 18-year-old self Tech entrepreneur Brian Johnson wants to reverse the aging process in his brain heart lungs liver kidneys teeth skin hair everything he has actually hired a team of 30 doctors and health experts he gets up at 5:30 a.m. and mixes a concoction
called the Green Giant and numerous supplements Fitness is of course a big part of his routine he works out for an hour every single day his gym program consists of 25 different exercises and he also regularly monitors his weight in body fat he consumes only 1,977 calories a day on an all vegan diet to keep track of his health Johnson undergos numerous blood tests ultrasounds and MRIs Dr rigved Tad Walker says trying to reverse the aging process could be dangerous anything taken to an extreme including a mix of supplements excessive exercise excessive changes to the
diet can potentially be harmful to the body he puts seven different creams on his face to reverse sun damage so is any of this working his doctors claim he has the heart of a 37-year-old the skin of a 28-year-old and the lung capacity of an 18-year-old so what do you think about him so I think Brian and I need to have an MMA match this is the formal challenge like let's just let's just get a knocked out of we will settle this like men we'll see who the real you know Champion is he's the same
age as me so I think he's 46 or 47 so it's completely Fair's 47 August 22nd yeah how much does he weigh let's see if what weight class he'd be um oh you're actually being serious you'd want to do this oh absolutely oh that'd be fun okay he weighs 174 lbs so he's a little he's a little uh heavier than me but I'll still take him you know I'm 165 you're calling him out I'm calling him out no but like think about it you know I will tell you what I think about him scientifically I
respect the I respect the effort um I've heard he's a really nice guy in person I think that he has a big team behind him who's feeding him a lot of the information and I disagree with a lot of the things that he suggested vegan diet does not promotee Health and Longevity and he's in order to have blood markers that look even that look reasonable he has to take over 111 supplements a day um he was on testosterone he claims to not be on testosterone now I called him out about this on Instagram he has
not proven that he is not still taking trt he makes this claim that he is the healthiest man in the world and I think that's disingenuous when you must take trt because your sex hormones decline so much because because you're eating a calorie restricted vegan diet so it's it's just it's unquestionable that a vegan diet is nutrient deficient like it's just it's unquestionable so in order to fill in the gaps that he's even aware of he must take 60 plus supplements like I said over 110 pills a day many of the things he's supplementing are
actually found in meat so he takes creatine he takes collagen he takes torine these are all found in animal foods and I don't think our calorie restricted diet is the way for humans to live a long way it gets into kind of the esoteric nature of some of these studies but I think that what's thing about what he's doing is there are people living now there's a Rejuvenation Olympics or longevity Olympics and there are people who are beating him who eat meat and spending a lot less than his protocol so he is not winning the
Rejuvenation Olympics he's doing well in them but there are people like uh I think his name's Dave Pasco is one of these guys um who are actually have better markers than Brian in terms of uh speed of Aging that eat meat and do a completely different protocol so I think it's a little bit strange yeah this guy so Dave Pasco I think is in his 60s and there's there's articles and stuff about him and there's other people that have been featured um Brian also fears the sun I think like we said sunlight is essential he
has an umbrella when he goes outside he goes outside with an umbrella why why is that AF he's he doesn't want any sun jamage on his skin that's why yeah you ever seen a movie Powder Rob can you put the movie Powder movie do you remember this movie put movie Powder I've never seen this you've never seen a movie no his skin is so he looks like uh his skin is super pale it's so pale it's so pale and the in the movie pow his parents was a were afraid of him do you remember this
story Rob have you ever seen this or no yeah I believe he was struck by lightning he was struck by lightning and his parents were afraid of putting him out and so he was in a basement never got the sun he looked like that so his skin tone kind of super pale it's kind of similar yeah so I love I love the have you guys ever done a podcast together we haven't so i' I respectfully have asked him on multiple occasion to do discussion and he's declined um and I called him out on Twitter a
few a few days ago and he's still declining he's kind of he's kind of avoiding it because he's okay so another thing about Brian he came out on Twitter and or ex and he said he actually believes seed oils are healthy for humans which I debate very strongly and he continues to suggest that red meat is harmful for humans or shortens your life I just saw a clip of him on another podcast saying that one hamburger shortens your life uh 20 minutes or something which is just an absurd claim I mean the the meat in
the hamburger is not what's shortening your life I would say that there are so many unique compounds in animal meat especially red meat that are associated with longevity vitamin B12 creatine torine vitamin K2 uh ancine all sorts of compounds to say that red meat shortens your life is really uh kind of a silly thing um but I guess if you're having a a burger with a bun with 60 ingredients and Seed oils you might be able to make that argument but he's not qualifying that got it this is tweet first you say seed holes are
good for human I do not understand the literature now you're citing horrible observational research to suggest red meat is bad for humans come on my podcast we can discuss respectfully I'll be waiting got it well we'll see uh uh if he will you know if you guys will do your um um a podcast together or not it'd be interesting to see because again he has a lot of people he was on the can you play that clip he was on the flagrant podcast and they asked him how old are you and the way he broke
it down was very interesting play that clip r years old but what would your true age be I'm hundreds of different ages my left ear is 64 my heart is 37 my cardiovascular capacity is in the top 1.5% of 18 year- olds my diaphragm is age 18 the only way to understand age is you have to look at every organ of the body and then age that organ and so you know intuitively that a baby's heart is different than a 90-year-old heart they look different they function different they have different cells and so we basically
said How do you age every part of my body sorry the ear thing is is like your hearing is bad or just the ears cuz I know continue to grow is that all it is looking at the my ability to hear sounds so between 4,000 htz and 12,000 HZ I'm basically deaf because I shot a lot of as a kid I was right-handed and so I got the exposure on my left ear holy [ __ ] and so we still haven't been able to figure out how to fix aging or hearing damage on the year
you're 46 years so your thoughts on what he just said hundreds of different ages yeah it's a little bit arbitrary so they're using metrics that are not Corr you know like not substantiated he's just he's kind of saying oh I my heart is 37 years old well I mean how do you how do you know your heart he's comparing it to other people so it's not a bad series of metrics but I do think it's a little bit misleading for people yeah again I think his his intention is great but I think that the way
he's doing it is is misleading I'd be curious I'd be curious enough for you guys to sit down MMA fight yeah well listen I'm sure it can be pulled off and uh because what is the ultimate test of longevity than how much you can fight for your like for your life yeah I mean like so he he actually emailed me and he was going to have me over to his house to do a workout and then um his team kind of flaked on it so I'm still open to that like I think it would be
interesting for people to see me and Brian I think things together I think a long form podcast with the two of you guys doing it would be very entertaining to see different views I'm going to ask this last question then babe whatever question you got you know well I know you got a couple questions we go to you as well so snap which used to be call food stamps and now they call it snap and not as in food stamps Chang to Snapchat they literally Chang name for food stamps to snap because it's called supplemental
nutritional assistance program I didn't even know they change it but apparently they changed it because they said food stamps was a little bit offensive so they kind of wanted to find a different name for it it is what it is the name was changed in 2008 to reduce stigma associated with the program since we've had food stamps in place since 1939 it is what it is okay so this article food stamps crazy stats 75% of the $115 billion spent in snap funding goes to process food and 10% of all SNAP food stamp funding goes to
soda you Shar this with me how crazy is that how crazy so but but how do you process that information corruption you know criminal lobbying lobbying at the level of Congress this is the way it works these big food companies Lobby to Congress under the guise of um classism elitism or racism and say these foods have to be available on on food stamps and then what are humans uh in the most susceptible um you know parts of the world and the most susceptible income classes do but they buy junk food 10% of food stamp snap
funding goes to soda I mean why is soda even allowed to be used on food stamps I think the argument against this idea or for this idea is that this is all that's available for humans but I it's it's crazy right like water comes out of the tap a lot of it's floridated as we talked about but humans can drink things besides soda I don't understand why any junk food is allowed to be purchased with food stamps but 75% of junk of of food stamp purchases are junk food I mean this is and the problem
here is that this goes this gets full circle because taxpayers pay for food stamp so our taxes your taxes my taxes go to pay for the food stamps program and then our taxes go to pay for the medical care when people get sick from these Ultra processed foods and I think at this point it's really incontrovertible to suggest that these foods are not making people sick you can look at historically you can look at those people we had from Weston a price I mean these foods are I would say the single greatest driver of chronic
illness which is the one of the single greatest drivers of uh Healthcare spending which is one of the single greatest drivers on our economy and the health of our nation available and people can use food stamps fund to buy these foods which is making us sick and then our tax dollars go to pay for Healthcare on the back end of all of this so it's just this vicious cycle everyone is connected together we talked about it a little earlier in the podcast the FDA is captured the NIH is captured the USDA is captured and they're
all connected with Pharma I don't think we mentioned on the podcast yet but 47% of the funding for the FDA comes from the pharmaceutical industry 47% yeah I sent this to you 47% and it's funny because Bobby Kennedy got called out he said 50% and they said no no no it's only 47 yes I sent that to you in our text thread yeah 47% of the funding for the FDA in the United States comes from Pharma and you wonder why these policies are in place it's all connected right it's all just this evil web and
it's not for the health of Americans it's for the profit and the bottom line of these Agra business companies and so it's very clear like there is no reason for food stamps to be able to be used for junk food and soda that would change the health of the country almost overnight if people could only use food stamps I mean I propose something um you know hopefully I'll get to talk to Bobby about it soon but I think HSA funds so health savings account funds should be expanded and I think HSA funds should be able
to be used for single ingredient Foods so HSA funds are pre-tax money and I think you should be able to use pre-tax dollars to buy any single ingredient food so I tweeted about this have you and Bobby done anything or no have you guys uh not yet we're waiting till he's after conf after he's confirmed got it yeah yeah very interesting uh uh listen I can talk to you forever because to me one of the things one of the guy s in the back which I I'm curious to know what you say about this you'll
hear about back in the days I used to drink Arc Cola I'm talking 30 years ago yeah part of it wasn't because I liked Arc Cola part of it was because we were broke and RC was cheap Coke it was half the price of coke so we would drink Arcola you would hear stuff about mexic Coke in Mexico uses different kind of sugar than the coke here which is healthier to dring your Coke from Mexico to here what can you say about that the Coke in Central America does use sugar so it uses sucrose and
here we use high fructose corn syrup to me it's kind of all it's very similar the processing of high fructose corn syrup is perhaps a little bit worse and there were old studies that suggest that high fructose corn syrup was highly contaminated or at least significantly contaminated with heavy metals but I don't think sucrose or is is significantly better than high fructose corn syrup uh I don't think high fructose corn syrup is great either but it is true that in Mexico and Costa Rica the Coca-Cola has sucrose which is essentially cane sugar that's been purified
versus high fructose corn Zer but I think that anytime time you strip away all of these other chemicals that are in a a food these hundreds or thousands of chemicals you are creating something that's problematic for the human gut have you ever had sugar cane juice it's it's really good it's actually green um so the a sugarcane you seen a sugar cane it's like of course yeah you ever chewed on a sugar it's really good yeah and there's there are these sugar cane presses yes yeah that that's sugar cane juice there are there are studies
in humans showing benefits to suar cane juice but when you pull because there are hundreds uh of chemicals that's a complex food Matrix even as the juice when you separate it from the cane it's a complex food and your body knows what to do with it and your gut Flora doesn't get overly um stimulated you don't get dispos from sugar cane juice so there's human studies with sugar cane juice showing health benefits but you pull the sucrose out of it and you get problems or you take corn and you make the glucose and corn into
high fructose corn syrup um through isomerization into other processes and you end up with something that's toxic for the human gut so I don't think Mexican Coke or you know whatever it's called colloquially is much better than regular Coke but it does have an interesting conversation about the sugar okay Jen what's on your mind yeah so it's interesting how you want to get a little closer to the mind yeah um it's funny because I have actually known about you for quite some time and I told Patrick um you know shared some of your videos with
him you know probably a couple years ago mostly the ones like where you'd freeze the liver and put it in the in the freezer you like literally take like bites of liver in the morning um so I kind of went down this you know Direction whenever I watched the livering video a couple years ago and I learned about nourish nourishing Traditions is a book by Sally Fallon which is where I learned about Weston Price so all the information that you shared about him I'm very familiar with it but um so it's really interesting this whole
you know cycle or journey of um learning how to eat healthy and so I guess one of my questions would be about the water in our house so um do you have a water filter should we have a water filter on our home like you know for our entire water system because you mentioned about the fluoride in the water you know that's something that we can you're talking shower everything yes talking about everything I think if someone can afford it you should have a whole house water filter because it's just more than the fluoride it's
the chlorine and the chlorine derivatives I think over 90% of the tap water in the United States has at least one carcinogen in it um you can look at um I believe it's environmental working group has tap water resources and you can pick your city and you can see where it is so you can look up the water you the municipal water in Los Angeles or the municipal water in Austin Texas and there are usually 20 to 30 contaminants in there and when you are showering it's often hot water your pores are open and you
can absorb that so is this the first thing to worry about no we kind of went through a hierarchy of things to do for your health but if you're interested and and people have the resources a whole house filter is a great IDE idea because I don't want to be swimming like look I was recently I was in New York a little while ago and you you look at the water on New York and nobody's going to go swimming in that water because you know it's polluted well what are you showering in right um you're
showering in pesticides you're showering in chlorine derivatives you're showering in pharmaceutical drugs because those end up in the water supply I mean yeah look at your Municipal Water on environmental working group and and you'll be astounded at what's actually in that and even if you're not drinking it showering in it is an exposure so I think a whole house filter is a very good investment yeah I've seen some and they're very pricey I don't think you need something uh crazy pricey but I think it's a good investment I mean yeah yeah what else babe okay
good U so there's a lot of talk about the red meats and lots of um you know Meats in your diet but what about fish and seafood are you one that eats those type of foods yeah I'm a huge fan of red meat I think that 200 to 300 years ago fish was great and today it's a little more polluted than other foods and so I don't eat a lot of fish if you're eating fish instead of junk food you're doing great but um people need to know that number one Atlantic salmon is entirely farm
raised there's no such thing as a wild Atlantic salmon farmed fish in general has higher levels of all sorts of problems pcbs po polychorinated bipol compounds uh pfas forever chemicals INF farmed fish so you do not want to eat farmed fish which includes every single Atlantic salmon ever um even if you're eating Wild fish the levels of heavy metals are pretty high um whether it's arsenic Mercury cadmium lead Etc um fish in general has higher levels of microplastics and higher levels of forever chemicals so it's just fish is a tough thing for me um Bottom
Feeders or shellfish have higher levels of certain heavy metals so even like scallops or shrimp yeah I mean it's not going to kill you but um I always get a little worried when people are pescatarian if they make the majority of their protein intake um centered around fish I just urge them to get tested for heavy metals and and understand their exposure there so I don't think a pescatarian diet is a great idea for humans the whole idea of a pescatarian diet usually comes from people fearing red meat and I think red meat has been
incorrectly vilified talked about that a bunch I'm a huge apologist for red meat I think it's a it's a it's an incredibly healthy food for humans so I don't think you can never eat fish I just think that you need to be aware of what's in it and certainly some of the heavy the high heavy metal fish like swordfish or Mahi or shark the bigger fish very very high levels of heavy metals and there are recorded documented cases of people getting it's called haterism Uh in reference to um the Matt Hatter in Allison Wonderland so
haterism is a um pening to be negative that's that's haterism we need one more tea That's hater look look up haterism haterism is mercury toxic toity so apparently the Hat makers um used to get haterism from Mercury exposure and haterism is just the historical reference to Mercury toxicity and that's been documented from people eating too much fish and Sushi you can actually get haterism so yeah it's it's it's not um it's not something to take lightly there are a lot of famous people Tony Robbins um other folks who have actually gotten pretty significant Mercury and
other heavy metal toxicity from eating a lot of fish wow so yeah these are real cases of this happening yeah yeah this is it was common among Hatters in 18 and 20th Century to use mercury to stiffen the felt stiffen felt Tremors symptoms Tremors irritability slur speech depression shyness low self-confidence apathy personality changes memory loss and headaches wow this is the Mad Hatter in Alice and Wonderland that's his character there you go wow yeah not haterism haterism so I think fish is again it's a single ingredient food don't fear it but um I wouldn't make
it the majority of your of your protein intake Paul this has been great babe thank you for that thank you so much great to meet you we're going to put these things below Rob put the links below to this I like this one it's so good I don't know which I've eaten this thing throughout the entire podcast it's awesome and I'm going to try your uh the protein you're talking about prot I brought you some creatine also you don't take creatine at all you need to be taking this tell me why so creatine is the
I've taken prot creatine before but that was 25 years ago but creatine is the easiest hack for people so you should be taking creatine also women yeah kids can take creatine it's it's it's a super safe supplement so creatine is a phosphate donor it's basically an energy intermediate in the human body and it's it's basically pennies a day for one of the single most studied and safe substances on the planet it's just it's made by the human body but when we get enough everything works better so creatine it's almost a it's almost a neurotropic you
know it's it's a it's a NE Tropic like if you're sleep deprived there's evidence creatine is beneficial Muscle Recovery explosiveness like creatine is very easy to take for humans and valuable I I figured you might not be taking it so take like you know 5 G of creatine a day it's it's incredible a lot of people I know have stopped drinking coffee because they take creatine yeah cuz because it's a no Tropic and is it you know back in the day they used to say drink your creatine with grape juice any of that stuff is
that still the case or water no just water is fine I mean you might have to get a little bit more fluid during the day but it's super safe okay cool well we're going to put the link for both I'm going to try the [ __ ] we're going to put the protein Stu the website will be there as well and uh aside from that this has been a blast folks watching this if you got any questions I'm sure you do family cleaning out the you know uh the the what do you call it Pantry
all the stuff may want to ask the man a question he is on manck wealth of knowledge use it you just saw me use it for the last two hours Paul I appreciate you this was fantastic appreciate you for coming out this was great thank you take care everybody bye-bye bye-bye hey guys I am Paul saladino you can find me on man if you have any questions about diet Health recovering from chronic illness or autoimmune disease I'm excited to connect with you guys all there and I'll see you in there