You don't get experience stretched out evenly over time. You get it in these concentrated chunks. And I think Step Brothers is probably a great example of that because you've talked about how hard that was for you.
Yeah. I was gripping the bat a little tight by the time I Yeah. got to step up to the plate.
And so I don't know anything about sports. Those were two little sports analogies. Not bad.
Put me in coach. That's another one that uh that all I think that's John Fogerty. Yep.
Uh, I think there's something about a a role that's that extreme, like that much of a prick, that I can retreat into that. Like in an audition, I could retreat into that ultra confidence of somebody like that. You just did it a little bit better.
Right. So, you can you can that'll that battles the nerves a little bit because it's so exaggerated. And I was deeply intimidated cuz it's not like I had gone through UCB and right knew how to do this kind of long form improv that that uh or even just improvising around a a single uh line and just trying a bunch of different things on one line.
I had never done that. So, I felt like they had given me this enormous opportunity, this enormous chance to like do something special. And I when we were starting the movie, I was feeling like I was really blowing it because, you know, we do a take or two, the scripted version, and then just kind of go off and try different stuff.
And Adam McKay really saved me because he, you know, he'll yell out lines from the monitor and give you like these great jokes and but at the same time they were so mellow and cool about it and I mean there was so nice and I feel like by the time we finished the movie I had finally sort of figured out at least an inch in the right direction of what to do. So I ended up with that and and also Party Down and Parks really learning. I should have gone to UC gone through UCB years earlier.
Instead, I ended up kind of learning this stuff uh with the the best people. Yeah. You took all the highest honor graduates of UCB and just worked with them.
But that I think part of what makes those guys so great is um and what I sort of learned from from them kind of on the job is that if something's not working, great. Just keep going and let's just keep figuring it out. There's no shame, right?
There's no embarrassment. No. Like who cares?
Let's do things that suck and then that'll help us find the thing that's great. and and uh and just kind of not being afraid of failing is kind of the key, I think.