The Astounding Mysteries Of The Self & Universe | Physicist Nassim Haramein

because oh there it is there it is the impression that there was an infinite source of energy might have been not necessarily what people wanted to do at the time what the da is describing is this fundamental unified field this is what Einstein described the curvature of SpaceTime which he didn't say what SpaceTime is made of because we're all entangled through this field there is on our planet currently and animals that are Eternal how does an atom spin right where is the energy source that that keeps all atoms spinning all electrons moving where is that

where does that come from dude I can calculate how fast the universe is thinking do not despair there is incredible possibilities coming your way everything is there for us to make this leap to make this step our kids will see an amazing world evolve [Music] Nasim hermine is a certified genius astrophysicist Quantum physicist and he's here to set the record straight about the actual nature of the cosmos and what was really beautiful about this podcast is we were able to bridge in some Concepts from ancient Daoism from cabalistic traditions and see how they interface with

the most cuttingedge equations that are coming out of quantum physics and what we found was this beautiful synthesis of ancient wisdom and the most recent scientific discoveries things like at the center of the sun is a black hole and the light that emerges is also originating from this void that's pulling in the energy and coming out the cosmic battery that can be represented by the yin-yang symbol of light and dark and how this interplay of light and dark works in the cosmos and then how this energy this Boundless Energy of the force of that thing

the da that's older than God that is the substrate of all Unicity how this interacts in the field of articulation not only of planetary structures Galactic structures but of our own personal structure what is the energy that is at the core of every atom we've been in this search for perpetual motion machines but guess what atoms are already perpetual motion machines they're constantly moving where is the source of that energy and Nasim would say that the source of that energy is the source of all energy source itself this podcast is mind expanding beyond belief and

it is with absolute great pleasure that I share not only all of this information about the cosmos but a genuine message of Hope in these times of chaos and turbul an for where humanity is headed and why it's going to be headed in a positive direction so it is with great Delight I share this podcast with Nassim harmine Nasim hey hey I don't know if I've ever been so excited to talk to somebody on a podcast because in following your work and studying and preparing for this show I realize how little I actually know about

the universe thank you well that's the state of the world in general so don't feel bad yeah it's it's really remarkable how much knowledge is at the Forefront that you've been able to access and how little that has been translated into the general Layman understanding of how everything was everyone just generally accepts okay in the beginning there was a big bang all all light compressed to the size of uh you know the tip of your finger and then boom here we are billions of times smaller than the tip of your finger long size object yeah

right right that always made sense to me too I was like why the why the tip of your finger why wouldn't it be just a single single micro Point yeah Singularity that's that's what the theory says yeah um and and I think it's significant actually that that scale the plon scale is a very significant important scale that's overlooked in physics so explain the plunk scale so for people who don't understand okay well I would would have to start with quantum mechanics uhhuh and I think it's important for people to understand quantum mechanics better because I

there's a part of quantum mechanics that's very much publicized that has to do with the Copenhagen interpretation and how you know an observer or observation has to happen before the material world materialize in what it is and all this and so this is the observer effect where they showed that if you're looking for particles you'll see particles if you're looking for waves you'll see waves which then allowed people to say the reality is dependent upon the observer's intention that's right and that interpretation is known as the Copenhagen interpretation it comes from very famous conference that

occurred there and this interpretation I believe is completely incorrect it's completely false wow all right shots fired right of the gay okay it's really important for people to know and actually students in physics should be thought that um for some reason they're not um that there's alternative views that were given by very serious people Deb being one and bom and that give all the correct answers with a very mechanical fluid dynamics view of the of of the effect um and in that case you don't have to invent really you know esoteric um uh ungrounded uh

ideas that somehow particles can be waves and particles at the same time and it it basically the only difference in the interpretation is to show that actually when a particle moves it's moving in a field so when it moves it makes waves just like a boat on the ocean so it's a particle in a wave yes but not in some esoteric way it's just when it moves it makes waves in the field because it's not in a field-free environment space time space is a field of energy and actually I demonstrate very clearly that it is

the field of energy that makes the particle in the first place so of course okay so we can get into the double St experiment which is how this interpretation occurred but I'm going to have to back up to the foundation of mechanic of quantum mechanics I'm I'll let you I'll let you drive the ship here so if we want to talk about the Double SL experiment we can do that I'm just going to give it quick interpretation it's called pilot wave theory and it it just shows that um okay so so the experiment is like

you got one slit and you're shooting electrons or photons at this slit and you have a detector on the back right and you expect on the detector you're going to get Dot for each particle that hits the back detector and the ones that hit uh in front of it won't be detected right the one that don't go through the slit but then you put two slits and you'd expect that you'd get some particles going through the one slit and some particle going through the second slit and you should have like dots on the backboard right

on both side on both slids but instead you get an interference pattern okay and that was weird because it's like what's interfering with the particle so then it's like oh the particle is like becoming two particles going through both slits and interfering with itself and like all this like I don't know what they were smoking but it wasn't the good stuff and and it's like you you you know all of a sudden what is the good stuff well yeah that's another story you know we just got back from burning man so that gives somebody an

idea that the team may know what the good stuff is I don't know but I I'm saying like it's a very strange interpretation and then of course scientists at the time tried to like measure exactly which slit did the particle go through and how is it that it's interfering with itself and when they try to put a measurement instrument there um they realize that when they put it there all of a sudden they get dots on the backboard so they it changes the result so then the like the interpretation is oh my god when we

try to measure it which we have to make the distinction that doesn't mean there's an conscious observation could be a measurement from a device that's just tied to a computer nobody's looking right but when you we try to measure it we get a different result M and this led to a series of equations that describe this collapse of the wave function of the quantum wave function that makes up particles but um but if you take the analogy of the boat on the ocean and when the particle is moving um it makes waves well then when

you have one slit you get the dot because only the goat the boat goes through when you get I'm saying this Loosely right just so we understand like it's more in depth than that but um and if you look up pilot wave theory you'll get all the information but but if you uh have two slids then the waves that the that that the particle made go through the second slit and interfere with it with the particle and produce an interference pattern and then if you put an object to measure what's going on there if you

add an a measuring object that object is Making Waves in the field MH and it's cancelling the waves that the particle is makingh and now you get a third result but it's not some esoteric thing that like there's an observation and it's changing it's just a fact that everything is baiting in a fundamental field of energy that interacts with all things that connects all things and so although the spiritual people might say oh but you're taking away this possibility that Consciousness is involved and I'm saying no no first of all in the standard model nothing

there's no equations there that says anything about Consciousness it's it's not true that it predicts Consciousness it in the standard model it just says that the waveform is going to collapse into a random thing like it you know could be anything it's it's not tied to Consciousness in the equations right it's just tied to a measurement um but more importantly when you see it as pilot wave theory sees it I discover pilot wave theory independently in my van in the '90s thinking I had figured it out and then I real realiz that debug did it

like long before me and and so now you have something I think that's much more profound you have something that says that um everything is connected through a fundamental field MH and so like let's jump back because this is a part of quantum mechanics that is very specific let jump back to the start of quantum mechanics and understand something really important there and this is something like if there's physics students listening right now they got to listen really closely here because this is the part of their course that they will not be thought okay and

it's really critical so how did quantum mechanics start it started with Max plun trying to make a better light bulb he was commissioned by you know a group of um different organizations that were trying to improve on the light bulb because the light bulbs didn't last very long then the filament kept on burning out and all this and so Marx um looked at it in detail and and tried to figure out the thermodynamics of this element that emits Photon emits electromagnetic fields when you heat it up right so he was looking at it and the

equations of the time were saying something really weird they were saying that like the element should emit infinite amount of ultraviolet radiation and that's not what we were measuring in laboratory so it was called the ultraviolet catastrophe so he tried to resolve it and in order for the equation to work it's called Plank's law um he had to add a little component a little free parameter in some ways that he call um H bar that he he well no actually it was H at the time right eventually Paul dur modified it showed that it was

an angular momentum so it was H over 2 pi and that became H bar nobody understands that but we'll continue it's okay yeah we'll allow that yeah just just so people know it's actually uh an action of an of a angular momentum it's a little spinner you could think of it that way and what it did is that in the equation it basically said that like the electromagnetic field that's radiating from the element when you heat up something is actually coming out in packets little Spinners like pulses yeah like pulses packets it wasn't continuous right

like Quantas of energy which were described by H or H bar later and that packet of energy eventually Einstein took that and said hey you know I can explain the photo electric effect with that you know um so that like the little packets of energy are hit hitting electrons and trowing electrons out and semiconductors and that is what makes you know like a like Photo cells that we use for you know um solar panels mhm and he got the Nobel price for that calling the little packets photons and that's where the concept of photons come

from from okay you see so a lot of people don't realize actually Einstein didn't get the Nobel Prize for relativity he got no the Nobel Prize for contributing to the start of quantum mechanics um and so you know when you looked at this equation pl's law it said that the Universe when it radiates electromagnetically it's packets of energy that it's radiating and it's absorbing packet of energy the equation is describing an oscillator okay that is the foundation of quantum mechanics is the description of an oscillator so you could think of it as a a little

proton like the nuclear of an atom or an atom being an oscillator right like and the problem is that okay so so listen to this this is remarkable so when it's taught to students um instead of telling the student visualize a little spinner A little top spinning that's an oscillator right they're told to visualize a spring with the weight on the end they're mathematically um mappable one to the other so it's it's mathematically the same except that if you're thinking the universe is making Springs with weights on the end you don't have the correct image

in your head of what you're actually describing in your equation right and these these type of analogies are very destructive to our capacity to actually understand the universe because we start you know making models in our head that don't have anything to do with reality mhm right the universe is clearly not doing Springs with weights on the end right like a little spring that's oscillating up and down like this right and that's like critical that the students get the right visual we're talking about something that's spinning MH I mean Springs with weights on the end

are made by the universe after they've made the humans that makes the springs and the weight okay but if you're trying to understand the universe then you got to have the right image in your mind so if I'm I'm trying to I'm trying to visualize this and I think you know I'm I'm picking up what I was able to understand from an interview that I watched you do and basically what you're saying is this pulsing oscillating pattern is that we're creating we're creating a new projection of reality so to speak in every plunk second which

is like the smallest measurement of time possible it's the it's the interval between these pulses exactly there's a timing thing that's happening boom boom boom boom but so so fast and's a heartbeat yeah and it's and it's and it's almost infinim measured and it's creating reality in every in every plunk second exactly and and and then as you go up in scale that timing slows down right because it takes longer for a proton to make us a turn than to a plonk which is billions of times smaller so a plonk is a is like a

quark is or smaller than a quk smaller than a quark okay so it's the fundamental it's the very basic unit that the irreducible unit is is like a plunk it might be reducible to sub plunk oh boy but the speed of light limits so so you could say that maybe it's the fundamental pixel for our size Universe okay but that but it may go all the way down infinitely yes because because past the Event Horizon of a black hole you have it's called trans planking problems meaning you have things that would go faster than I

mean lots of people have trans planking problems let's just let's just be that can happen but that's a whole other story um I it's really important you understand I'm talking about this in a very rigorous way yes it's not philosophy okay it it would be philosophy if I didn't have equations to support what I'm saying so people philosophy comes after yes well actually philosophy should come first and then the equations explain and then you do the equation and that's lost in physics currently most physicist just learn to resolve equation there's a famous St saying by

finan you know shut up and calculate don't ask question just they're just doing math and math can run you right straight into a wall right like string theory is a good example of it and and and it you have to have fundamental concept of what you're trying to solve otherwise your equations can tell you anything you want right and and the only way you can verify that your equations are telling you the right thing is when you go to experiments and confirm that the equation is giving you the right result right there's no experiment in

string theory for instance that can confirm anything because the equations output really like almost infinite amount of possibilities right 10 to the 500 different compactification of strings that like it it tells you that like they could be one correct answer in 10 to the 500 answers right like it's the largest number in physics but in anyway let's not get off track right let me let me let me I want to do I want to do one thing here because we're going to get deep in the weeds and I also want to share with people that

you have a paper that you recently published corre that has an unreal amount of equations and grounding to everything that you're saying right so and I want to you know help help you and help everybody make this clear that this is not just you casually looking at this like an armchair physicist you're actually deep in there figuring it out and I'm working with physicists from the biggest schools in Europe and you know and and don't believe the goofy stuff on Reddit you know that my papers are not peer reviewed and all this that is false

of course of course right anybody who challenges the the dogma of the time is going to be ultimately attacked this this occurs in every different every different academic you know every different Academic School it's just the it's the nature of it right and every large Discovery um you know were very fundamentally attacked um but I'm and and I don't say this in arrogance it's just the way it is and and it's analytical so you can actually if you got enough um you know you don't need that much math to follow these equations in that paper

um if you're a good engineer and so on you can follow this equation if you're student of physics you can follow these equations and you and and and the annex are there to help we try to write it in the most you know in the most easy way to absorb for um scientific you know um person uh which some math but we tried to write it as well historically so we actually spend quite a bit of time in the first section in describing historically this oscillator that was described by Max Blanc putting back the spinner

instead of the spring right and you know solving those equations you were to yeah so I want to so you were you were saying that it starts with philosophy in some way in some idea and one thing about the creation of the universe that I thought was really impactful for me it felt like a true philosophy and I have my own anthro onology that is not entirely accurate but I feel things as like this feels like this is something that's true right so anthropos your body ontology what is real right and so when I read

verse four of the daging it says the da is like a well used but never used up it is like the Eternal void filled with infinite possibilities it is hidden but always present I don't know who gave birth to it it is older than God that's great oh that's amazing it's yeah and to me that feels like the what what the Dao is describing is this fundamental unified field field that's right and that field this is what the students will not be taught okay that field is actually was actually discovered by Max plun while he

wrote These equations the ma the plank law has a little bit that was removed from it okay that described just what you read MH because so so now when you solve blanc's law for the internal energy of the oscillator okay there's a part of the equation 12 um H bar mu or can be Omega depending if you're doing how you write the equation but which says so so okay so let me back up the equation says at this temperature you get this Spectra of heat okay like meaning at this I'm sorry at this temperature you

get this amount of energy from the oscillator right so so you get a spectrum right of uh and you see that when you buy a light bulb still it'll say you know 3,000 k on it right 3,000 caline that is the temperature of the light bulb the the the energy Radiance of that light light bulb okay and I suppose you can measure that is heat or light like lumens or or cin yeah emission from the from the filament nowadays light bulbs are made of diode so you know we we have that convention to describe the

you know the the color of the photons emitted by the light bulb still but it's actually not coming from a filament anymore right however you know this this fundamental equation that describes this so it got rid of the ultraviolet catastrophe problem it give the right answer for the ultraviolet emission and all this when you solve it it tells you there's a part that tells you that at zero caline so on your graph on your Spectra zero caline would be like the ground state of the electromagnetic field right when zero emission should happen so that's the

cessation of all Energy Zero calvine there's nothing zero Calvin like have you been to Canada I've been to Edmonton okay yeah it's [ __ ] cold it's damn cold right feels like zero calvine yeah well you know it's not anywhere close to zero calvine right even and so zero caline is seriously [ __ ] cold right so nothing should move absolute there should be no thermal agitation there should be no energy mhm however the equation which gives all the right answer for the rest of the stuff says that at zero calvine there's an infinite amount

of energy the equation diverges to Infinity there and so it's almost like at zero calvine we're back to the dowo which is completely full with infinite possibilities and infinite energies it's like a point of Singularity ex exactly exactly and and you said the word Singularity which implies Einstein field equation so let's hold that okay you got the right idea yeah now you have a so so so but but you say but okay so yeah you're so that means the ground state of the electromagnetic field is full of energy mhm when uh Marx plong discovered this

he called it Zero Point Energy Zero calvine Energy right and so Zero Point Energy was like oh what do we do with infinite amount of energy right well in general now was this done on purpose was this done just because we didn't know what to do with the infinite amount of energy whatever I would say probably a little bit of both and I've done a lot of research in history of physics you have to put it in the context of the time we're talking you know second world first world war second world war we're talking

about you know looking for atomic energy the atomic bomb being developed giving the world the impression that there was an infinite source of energy that could be access might have been not necessarily what people wanted to do at the time well certainly not if you're a you know Titan in the petroleum industry you know that you definitely don't want Infinite Energy if you're control controlling the oil and gas and coal of the world I would say that might have been a reason later on right but early on definitely you know it it could have been

like on purpose drout it but basically what happened is that that part of the equation was removed generally okay it's not taught clearly to the and if physicists that are listening to this might say but no I I i' I saw that somewhere it's taught incorrectly because people think that it comes from uncertainty principle which it doesn't uncertainty princip iple come from 0 point energy being there but I'm going to tell you what you what happens when you remove it okay what happens when you remove it is your your equation now is describing an oscillator

without a source so it's spinning so now let me ask you your wheels on your car which is an oscillator right it's spinning thing okay though they do they go anywhere if you don't put energy in it uh only if I'm on a downhill yes then you're using the gravitational field to put energy in the system right so that's called a gravitational potential if they're on flat they don't go anywhere until you put energy right so you have to put energy in an oscillator for the oscillator to continue to oscillate right let's go back to

the spring and the weight yeah like how do an atom spin where is the energy source that that keeps all atoms spinning all electrons moving where is that where does that come from dude they get on the case of people that have been working on what they call free energy or overunity devices all the time saying you guys are trying to violate the laws of conservation of energy and da da da this is a violation like right in the base of quantum mechanics there's a violation of the laws of conservation because your oscillator if it

go back to a spring and a wait if you if you stop doing this what happens does the spring continue oscillating yeah for a minute or two but then it stops right so the same thing the the and so and when you calculate it it's inconsistent mathematically meaning like the so this field okay okay that's the Zero Point Energy is described as like constructive and destructive waves of the electromagnetic field right and if they can't if if that was all cancelled out it would be technically it's called commutative the equation cannot be commutative meaning it

has to be non-commutative that means there's got to be more energy that comes in to overcome the resistance of the oscillator to continue to oscillate just like you have to put energy in your motor right for your wheels to keep you know against the friction and the weight that it's pulling and all this stuff so this is this is this is like a revelation that seems like right in front of our eyes so there's been a quest to create a machine that could perpetually move a perpetual motion machine which doesn't require additional energy yeah to

to add it so you start the momentum and then once you start the momentum it goes infinitely right like that's been scientific study but it's happening all the time with every single atom exactly it's in perpetual motion without the adding of additional energy so the only thing did you ever receive a bill Poss yeah the only thing that could possibly explain it is there's a source of infinite energy at the root of all of that and we found it and then it was ignored it's 100 some years later unbelievable 30 years ago when I was

starting to present in physics conference I used to talk to people about this and they would say but you're talking about perpetual motion that's impossible and then I would ask them where have you seen anything else where have you I'm not talking about you relative to a car I'm saying the universe doesn't hasn't it shown any evidence of stopping or slowing down in fact we know it's expanding and accelerating W which at the time we didn't know 30 years ago like that was found like later on in like the early 2000 but this this um

you know like not only is it not slowing down it's accelerating but on top of it we haven't seen one proton ever decay the proton is the nuclear of an atom we haven't seen one proton ever Decay we see protons together Decay and radiate but the proton itself doesn't Decay we've not seen that ever you know another interesting thing and sorry I apologize for these tangents but as things illuminate in my mind so we'll we'll just take this low you know the idea that if you split an atom like in a hydrogen bomb or a

regular nuclear bomb creates this massive explosion of energy when they first started to do that there was legitimate concern that it would create so much energy that it would destroy everything just in just in theit the yeah ignite the atmosphere and everything and it would just be the destruction of the whole world so that's why if you watch you know watch the movie about oppenheim and everything everyone was kind of a little sweaty you know when they when they first had that because when they pushed the button there was actually a way you could write

the equation to show yeah the atmosphere could catch on fire and we could lose the atmosphere and yeah because at the at the core of everything is infinite energy so if you somehow unleashed the core of everything you would get the destruction of everything but that's the other thing when you you you create fishing right you're liberating massive amount of energy from a very small amount of matter mhm eal mc² on matter is a lot of energy yeah and so this is this is remarkable where is this energy coming from in the movie Oppenheimer I

was proud of them for at least mentioning it's very quickly mentioned that it's the strong force it's the force that's holding the atom together that's being liberating mhm but the mass of the protons that make up that nucle right protons and neutrons is not given in standard physics so I'm not going to want to get too technical here I will get back to the master proton MH but you have to understand that that currently in a very uh nonrigorous s uh the mass of the proton which is the mass of matter how how matter has

energy how matter has mass is not given in physics M it is no equation antical equation that says it just says that it's the result of the strong force interacting mhm which is not the source of which is not given yet so this is what I did in this paper mhm I went through I said okay you can't remove this Zero Point Energy it's mathematically and physically inconsistent everything should have stopped a long time ago if this no source to the oscillator right right and then I calculated with what's called correlation functions they equations that

describe in a field of waves like think of the surface of of the ocean how many are going to like cancel out and how many are going to be constructive mhm and because the equation in non is non-commutative that means that there's actually you know it's not the same a photon that's absorbed into the oscillator and emitted is not the same as a photon that's emitted and absorb so you you end up with a with a um a positive energy a surplus yeah a surplus so I calculated the correlation function of this field for an

object and so you put in there like the correlation time it's it's like the scale at which you're looking you when you looking at the waves they'd be bigger waves smaller waves smaller waves smaller waves right so you put in there the scale you want to look and when I look for the plank I got the plank Mass but when I look for the proton I got the proton Mass mhm the whole thing mhm showing that the mass or the energy of matter which is the proton Right is coming from this field yes you see

this is this is remarkable mhm it's remarkable because the standard model has this whole hi mechanism you know that gives Mass to particles right they called it the God particle right they spent some 13 billion dollar building accelerators to find it cost a billion. five a year budget to keep that thing going and you know and at the end the M the higs mechanism in the standard model is only consistent inside the standard model when you go to experiment to verify it right for the proton you're predicting less than 1% the mass the proton 5

to 1% the mass the proton and then if you add that to the fact that we're missing 96% the mass in cosmology then you're only predicting like .1% of what we see right yeah okay so I have so this this this is coming to me here and I I need to I need to step back to something you said said the universe is expanding so the universe is both Mass light energy so is that would that be correct to say that the universe is energy roughly in different in different ways in different ways it's 99.9%

plasma okay so and whatever is not plasma is plasma that's cooled off okay so if it's expanding yeah then there's something Beyond the Horizon very good there's something Beyond the Horizon what is it that's Beyond the Horizon that we're expanding into what is what is that is that most likely a larger universe whoa okay so we're expanding it's a a universe of a different type no just a larger universe think of a galaxy inside our universe right it it it expanded from a quazar you know like it it became a galaxy expanding inside our universe

so okay so then when the Dao ding is saying that the Dao which is the unified field of all universes all universes must come from the unified field right right so all universes we're and we say maybe we say God is our universe right and they they say the da is older than than God then they must be talking about the universe our universe is in yes yes they're talking about the the great Universe right which is probably in a larger one again and the larg infinite but that's all still the doubt so yeah yeah

so now you have the concept of fractality Singularity right right so God is describing our universe our universe is all contained within the substrate of a unified field that you call it the da I like to call it the force but whatever that whatever that is we're just one fractal of that that's right and in that field of energy it's coming from all these oscillators think of universe is an oscillator is spinning to and you know everything in it is oscillating the field of energy is got all these illation in it infinite possibilities that's right

infinite oscillations infinite amount of energy infinite amount of energy and and and and even if you just say okay well I'm going to cut it off at the plank scale because that's the speed of light whatever you know like we show in the paper that there's a good reason to use the long scale as a cut off when you you still have 10 to the 93 G per CM Cub so if you if you took all the stars we see in the universe and the black hole everything and we stuck it into a centimeter cube

of space we would be 39 orders of magnitude not as dense as 10 to the 93 G you know so it's like insane amount of energy is present in in each centim cube of space wow and and that's what's running our world yes and and and it's been there for a hundred years in our equations I had a vision in an aboga Journey where I was you know communing with spirit and we talked about this before you get access to information and then you always translate it through a hermeneutic prism of your ability to understand

and these medicines these sacred plants they open up a window to try and give you something that you could interpret in a way and this thing that I this thing that I saw this Vision that I saw that I'm going to explain was in many ways Beyond Comprehension to me at the time because I asked what is the nature of God right what is the nature of God and it showed me the image that it said was the image that it showed was this giant blue Titan it was like this Titan figure it had uh

it had its own kind of uh anthropomorphic kind of image that came to me but I don't take that super seriously it was just that's what it was showing me I was like okay God is this giant Titan and then Titan was moving in an elliptical on an elliptical track like a like a racer in like in the Olympics whatever you're moving around it was moving around a track and I was like okay so God is moving moving infinitely around this track spinning like an oscillation that's right and then that's called circulation in fluid dynamics

okay all right all right so Vision Visions tracking so far and then it showed me that there was an infinite amount of these Titans these gods that were also all running around the track and then I was like what the hell does this mean but now it's starting to make sense that the track is like the unified field and God as a universe is just one of many universes spinning around this this elliptical track that's right that's right and what's making it spin around right what's make what's holding to the center the da the gra

the gravity okay that gravity yeah and so we've been talking about quantum mechanics on the other side we have equations that says that SpaceTime curves to produce gravity uh when there is a presence of energy or mass right so that side we haven't discuss yet but it it works into this right because I when you write this when you keep the source of energy for your oscillator and you write this properly you inevitably arrive at general relativity MH and so the detractors out there say oh but he's using general relativity it's a natural consequence of

writing the equ and they you know they comment you can't use relativity at the quantum scale oh yes you can the universe is not like confused about the state of gravity just the humans yeah right so and and in this in this way you can imagine okay so we have planets rotating around the Sun Sun is Sun is rotating around a Galaxy the Galaxy is rotating around you know like everything is orbiting and so the UN Central Some central point and so the universe itself might be orbiting a black hole a black hole a singularity

at its Center at the center of everything and then there's many other univer many other universes all or yeah all orbiting a larger one all orbiting a larger one and so on yeah so somewhere at the center of go down yeah you can go down all the way down pass PL pass you know all the way down and I wrote These equation and I found the the scaling the coupling of all these oscillators inside each other I found how it couples it's we measure these things empirically it it involves the gravitational constants that we measure

uh the rberg constant that we measure all these things we measure these constants we don't know where they came from in physics right this puts it all together you you you start to understand oh that's why G is G that's why you know C is C that's why it all starts making sense why things why values that we measure are highly tuned for our universe to work because it's the mechanics of how it works and it eventually emerg life from it and and this is a really powerful part that I just solved two weeks ago

because I just didn't have time to apply to biophysics but I did a few weeks ago I'm really excited about it mhm so Li so life and light and and anything that we can measure matter Life Light this is actually a a a reduction of the possible energy of the unified field right like it's like a partiality it's like a partiality of it it's a relationship it's a coupling it's called we coupling a across scale if you have something that's spinning right that's really small if they get together Spinners and they become coherent so these

equation the the correlation function they describe how much coherency there is at each scale how many of the the the the Spinners are contributing their energy to that scale right so more they're coherent more they're going to contribute right let me give you an analogy that like might make it clearer okay you're in your bath with your rubber ducky as you do always yes never without that's right and you pull the plug okay if you bring the rubber ducky close to the drain it will appear like it's orbiting M right right and it it it

it's it appears like it's attracted to the drain right and and if you put it away far from the drain then all the water is chaotic so it's not going anywhere mhm but in the region of the drain the water the water molecules are coherent they're all co-moving in a coherent way and if you look at the surface you can see it curve M this is what Einstein described the curvature of SpaceTime MH which he didn't say what SpaceTime is made of mhm although at the quantum level we had that field of infinite so let's

let's for listeners non rigorously I did it rigorously but just so we understand each other let's put space time and this fundamental Zero Point Energy field together right it's one thing and and so he described the surface of the water curving creating gravity where does energy or mass SpaceTime curves and an object rolls towards it right that's what he described but that's a secondary effect in your bath the the real effect is that all the little particles of water are moving co-moving together see that's the quantum size objects this is why quantum physics and relativity

have not been unified because one is describing a smooth surface curving and the other one is describing little packets yeah in a cerent and so I put together because it's it's kind of obvious right but so so what I'm saying is that to understand like everything has a center and is spinning or is orbiting this center right and it's because the flow of this fundamental field is coherent in that region mhm just like in that region of your bath it's coherent because there's a gradient there there's a density gradient M so it's like it's like

and and now you can use fluid dynamics equation and look at it and you you'll find that it has like very specific geometry like a toide geometry it's going to flow out at the equator it's going to flow in at the at the poles and you know it's going to have a very Dynamic and and each scale is going to influence each other scale so now now you can calculate the impact of a smaller scale on a larger scale the coupling of these scale and all of a sudden you find all of the correct you

know um coupling constants all the correct values for the force we observe the constants we observe and all this you start to understand that it's like a huge fluid Dynamic structure that we're embedded in right that that has infinite potential like it's it's remarkable all right so let me see if I get this straight so at the center of every atom is like is like a drain which is like a black hole right and everything is circling Singularity everything is circling around this black hole and then everything and so as you get larger we were

talking before the podcast about the sun being a black hole well of course if that's like the drain you know even though it's emitting light which is also you know kind of mindboggling because we don't think of a black hole as emitting light but anything that's the drain that's that anything is circling around is like a sing it's like a little Singularity a little black hole and there's fractals of it so a galaxy has its own Center drain and when the universe has its own but all the way down to the atom that's is so

good but so much in what you said that needs unpacking for a physicist listening to it but but it's absolutely correct what you're saying mhm it's very very good uh basically you know um you can't so remember you have infinite amount of energy and energy curv space yes in Einstein Phil equation so that means that every point in space is curved to Infinity right because at every at every point is this Singularity infinite amount of energy Y and and so so that means that every point in space is a mini black hole mhm right at

the plank scale and then there's just different magnitudes that's right exactly is and because there's going to be different moments where the spin you know how you get um coriolis forces and centrifugal forces when you spin something right the spin that's pulling away from the The Singularity and the the for of the singularity are going to be going to be in the right balance so that it produce a bubble mhm it produce an horizon and the and one of those bubbles so when the strength of the zero point is able to like pinch SpaceTime and

make a first thing is the pl scale MH and then again at the proton scale you know and and it makes scales and we figured out that scaling Factor so now and it gives the right answer it gives the right mass for the proton right energy the right mass and the right energy for the electron and and planets and stars and galaxies it does all the right thing mhm all right and and and the idea that a black hole is just something that just sucks everything in is completely false it's a fallacy of misinterpretation of

Einstein fi equation mhm because Einstein didn't solve his own equation when he wrote These equation to describe like how space time is elastic and it's curving he didn't solve that that was too hard to solve uh an amazing mathematical physicist um that was fighting on the Russian front got Ein a hold of Einstein's paper and said oh I can solve that and solved it okay while fighting on the Russian front and being sick and he died two weeks later um and it's called the S child solution call sild solved this is it was the first

exact solution to Einstein's equation because Einstein's equation were written a very difficult formalism this much better formalism today to use to to solve Einstein field equation but it's not very much use and I'm not sure why exactly it's not very much used um but in any case he solved this it's called the sword child solution and he sent it to Einstein and he said hey your equation predicts a singularity so Einstein was very you know distru about that because it said that they would be that his equation predicted that all the mass would be in

the center and it would curve SpaceTime to the point that light could not emerge from it but when sword child solved this he solved it for a non spinning noncharged object to do a first level approximation and then he died so the the spin and the charge didn't come till the 70s mhm right so the interpretation Einstein was discouraged because he thought well my equation probably predicts something that's not real because he didn't believe that there would be something so massive that even the the escape velocity of of light could not emerge from it and

that's how the concept of a black hole which was wheeler that called it that way uh came out right well that's all true if you know the black hole is not spinning and it's not true for anything past the black hole meaning anything past The Horizon like the equation predicts a radius right this is the radius where light cannot Escape anymore but there is stable orbits all around the outside there's even stable orbits that have been shown inside the black hole mhm okay yeah so there's fundamental ideas about the black hole that are that are

that are misunderstood all right the idea that they're just absorbing everything so imagine you have something that's spinning it's black hole spin at the speed of light mhm okay particles are falling into a black hole spin at the speed of light they they fall in at they eventually reach a imagine as they're going in the centrifugal forces how strong they would be long before they got anywhere close to the event horizon the thing gets spit out so actually for things to fall into a black hole is very difficult they have to approach very specific angles

from the poles to be able to fall in yeah otherwise they get spun out and and presumably when they go in they come out in some other form in some other way well they get shredded whatever they might they they get transformed yes but but but more importantly when I start talking this way 30 years ago I then predicted that in order for a Galaxy to exist there must be a black hole in the middle M or for an atom to exist there must be a black hole but that was already so much controversial but

but I PRI predicted they would be black hole at the center of all galaxies we observe and that's what we found mhm now if black holes were object that are just swallowing everything that's around them galaxies wouldn't exist there would be nothing right there would be no galaxies right right because at the and in the the essential nature of a black hole is the infinite the infinite energy of vacuum fluctuation yeah and what we're calling and so that hasn't been put together they they Einstein equations and they solve quantum physics in different ways Zero Point

Energy was removed anyway like it's not put together a black hole is just the Zero Point Energy in that region of space spinning you see think of a a smoothie you know it's the Smoothie Universe right right SpaceTime like this fundamental energy when it spins in a coherent way like in your bath at the drain it produce an effect we call gravity all right so is there is there any place and I use place in a kind of I know it may not be a place because we're talking about time and dimensionality and whatever but

so and words get complicated to try and explain is there a place or any any element or aspect of the universe that is not spinning is there a place where actually there's Stillness oh yeah there's a place where there's Stillness at Singularity Singularity when you when you solve for all the modes they all cancel out like all the spins in infinite amount of universe you could cancel out to zero spin to Stillness to Stillness but but that would still be you know a cut off you you because you can't um you know you can't solve

for all the modes right um it would be like Enlightenment right where you have access to the hole right um so in some ways I could say yes this is stillness at the center of spin just like the center of a hurricane yeah the eye of the hurricane is more still than yeah you know no wind right you're in the center of the hurricane where you'd expect maximum wind right no wind and then right on the edge of the eye of their then everything starts starts spinning more all right so I'm going to take you

back to another mystical tradition that I've become aware of and it's deep in the study of kabala which I'm in a in a deep study and there's a concept called ssum and this concept is about the creation of the universe and what it basically is alluding to and pointing to and there's some interpretation here to get to this but the concept of ssum which has been written about is the idea that at the beginning of everything was not actually this expansion of light but actually there was a unified field that was completely full it was

completely full of all possible energy it was it was full and in that way you could say still because it's full it's absolute it's absolute so in order for there to be articulation of different spectrums of light different spectrums of sound different energy simum was described as a great in breath that created actually it actually pulled pulled energy or pulled something from the fullness so that uniqueness could emerge encapsulated yeah so it pulls in the it's an in breath that pulls in some of the fullness and then allows articulation to then spread back out into

unique fullness right because in the fractal infinite Universe each point is the center okay so each point of observe the universe from its own center right like you're a human I'm a human right but we have different retinas we have different you know uh fingerprints not one human is the same not one snowflake is the same one not each point Express itself from its own Center so it's observing there's you don't see the same thing as I see because I'm looking at this side the body bottle you seeing that side of the bottle because we're

in different coordinates we're different Center we observe from a different perspective so we gather different information we feed to the field different information so the field makes us different mhm so it's an individualization as soon as the energy can close up SpaceTime and make a particle it's made a point of reference that's observed from its own perspective so in this in this idea what's coming to me is the idea of Atman and Brahman right Brahman being the everything in its totality AP perspectival yeah right like it's just the the totality of everything as far as

I understand the idea of Brahman it's the whole thing a perspectively just and then Atman is our is our own unique participation that's right in that and so we see so our universe is different than every other Universe because we're actually our own unique perspective of the whole universe which is oton so we actually have a perspective and then Brahman is the perspective that's AP perspectival and sees everything yeah very good and I mean and you you can think of it even that like when you start thinking this way then you're you're getting closer to

actually putting the things together to unify physics because you're starting to talk in terms of information right you're talking about the in like the you know a point holding a set of information that's different from all the other sets of information so now you have distinction you have points of information interacting together and exchange of information and so and and so now you can start calculating in terms of information and when you do you get right answers right it's remarkable because you know you can talk about it in philosophy but then if you can write

the equation now you have engineering MH you understand how the universe works fundamentally like analytically and now you can start making technology that works the same way right and now you have technology that's vastly vastly more advanced than what we have today which is possibly and most likely what these alternate star system civilizations which I fully believe are exist have been able to access which explains the phenomenon that occur about how these ships travel and how these things fing our atmosphere and even in even in the vision State like non non-material beings that appear you

know they're traveling you know they're traveling in a different way through a different energy source this Quantum kind of energy source they just tapped into the fundamental energy source of creation so and since it's curved to Infinity everywhere it's already all warhold it's already this is why there's entanglement we measure in laboratory quantum mechanics told us that you know actually Einstein wrote these papers with Rosen and pedasi showing that like quantum mechanics must be wrong because it's saying that like things could be entangled Across the Universe right that like a particle over here if I

changed it it could affect a particle on the other side of the universe instantaneously and he wrote these papers trying to disprove quantum mechanics or that interpretation of quantum mechanics but in two months he wrote another paper showing that oh even in relativity you know um they could form SpaceTime could form warm holes that connected two points in the universe um instantaneously mhm and most physicists didn't really understand what Einstein did there yeah and and and most I mean they call it spooky action at a distance right CU spooky because it's like what the [

__ ] is going on here because we don't understand it and people didn't clue in that actually Einstein tried to solve that problem with wormholes mhm they think that he wrote two papers independently although the writers were very much the same people right it was Rosen and Einstein for wormholes and Rosen and n and pki and for the other and so but this this not you know like he was trying to understand this like wait SpaceTime is like a fabric that's like networked you know and he he wrote it for particles not for black holes

in the universe you he saying particles seem to be like wormholes black holes Network so so what is so a wormhole to me if I'm understanding what a wormhole must be it must be just a way that things connect through the unified field that's right right that field that Zero Point Energy fluctuating field is like has structure to it that con conects like all it's like the black holes are the Hub and the wormholes are the wires that connects the Hub of Network and and there's basically infinite wires that's right and infinite wormholes and and

the wormholes are plunk scale right so they're the the most micro micro micro wormholes right and and when and when information go through cannot be plun scale so it's hyperplan it's it's supl yeah cuz it's just in it's in the unified field at that point yeah and so and so because we have the scaling now yeah in our equations I can calculate the speed of the sub blanan field wow I can calculate how fast the universe is thinking we think it's instantaneously by you know the measurements of entanglement but that's because we can't measure very

fast yeah so fast it's faster than the speed of light by 10 to the 40th orders of magnitude so when because you see if the whole thing this is another thing that's very prominent in ancient civilization it says that the whole thing is network and organized MH it's not like that chaos is only a perspective right right if you got your nose in the rug you can't see the pattern you think it's chaos but if you back up then you start to see the pattern right yeah the whole MOA yeah so so so so then

I because if the whole thing is Network that means it's feedback of information through this network right then the universe has to be like updated every you know instant right by entanglement and so I calculated at the speed of light the universe would break down like you know it would take billions of years for information to go from one side of the universe to the other to so that everything could be in the correct order of relationship MH so this is this is let me just finish I I calculated at the sub plun in speed

how fast the universe is updating just for our universe not which is like the pulsing yeah the pulsing right and it's updating at 10 to Theus 222 to for information to go from one side of the universe to the other okay and it just happens to be the time that it takes a proton to do one turn uhhuh uh you see you see how it's all based in the it's all relationship of oscillators so there's a lot of esoteric and spiritual teachings that say there's a place or dimensionality Beyond time and I think they use

entanglement and I've seen this used that I'm not saying it's correct but they use tanglement to say it's instantaneous right but there it really didn't make sense to me instantaneous necessarily what does that mean it's used in physics what do you mean by instantaneous right and what you're saying is it's no it's not instantaneous that time time and space are connected and so there is no space without time and there's nothing there's no atemporal existence it's just going down to such an infinitely infinitely fast fast exactly speed that it's almost immeasurable for us definitely even

information going across the universe would look instantaneous and so as as long as there's differentiation of any sort because in the Stillness is absolute Singularity right and there's Stillness where everything is just one so there's nothing moving and there's no memory there's no time there's no that's at the center that's the center of everything but everything else it's just scales of time that's right that makes way more sense to me and and even deeper than that time is not a fundamental concept viewed from this perspective um memory is a fundamental concept right so so no

memory no time if you don't know what happened before you can't see an evolution in time do you see what I mean so I Chang the word SpaceTime for space memory so I have a paper call you know space memory network uh that's a biophysics paper that got cited actually better than my physics papers but um uh this so basically if you look at um so so think of time is really just different sets of information in in coordinates along a line so for instance think of the Earth spinning around the the sun right so

we keep thinking that the Earth spinning around the Sun is like going around in a circle that's false right that should never be taught to students it's incorrect the sun is moving in our galaxy and the the the planets are spiraling as the sun is moving through the Galaxy we're like billions and billions of you know kilometers away from where we were last year and and and as we think of it say like we're leaving information in the structure of space in in this network as creating a record in the Akash that's right which is

the which is the grand Memory Bank of all of all things which is was known by ancient civilization right and that is actually memory even the memory of your mind like your memory is you accessing information that was left in these coordinates when you were young for instance yeah and and so and and it's malleable meaning you can change it okay and and so and and that's not prohibited by Einstein Phil equations by the way um but but what I'm saying is that it's better to think of time as information MH in coordinates in space

MH and so so basically when a bit of information leaves one side of the universe because you've changed the state of a particle it's information that is transferred to the other side do you see yeah and the time it took is just the entropy of this information having to go over there mm do you see right right and and this entropy this little energy lost is what we call Mass it's it's actually the the the energy of creation so so the whole thing is thinking and as it's thinking it's making matter it's making creation it's

thinking slring right like and record recording and so that would be that that entity if you wanted to call it that that is the ultimate memory would be you could call that God I suppose yeah you could yeah it's just I I'd rather not use that terminology because that word means so many different so many different people and and you don't have to you can rigorously physically actually understand the nature of the universe you can it's not something you absolutely can and it's hard for people to believe that when I talk to physicist just recently

a physicist at Burning Man you know it's like how can you be so confident because it's analytical it's straight up analytical and it works right it's not all publish I I've published this paper is a series of three that are coming out and there's all kinds of papers are going to extend from that I'm working on a biophysics paper right now that I was telling you I'm excited about um because when you do the scaling you actually end up with microtubules in the brain when when you do the scaling you you realize that you can

actually microtubules are like the worm holes at the bio at the biological scale if you'd like right right which is the structure in in the neurons that are like exchanging information that you call thinking MH right so you can actually extrapolate to biology and why biology becomes Co like why is there coherency you're made out of 100 trillion cells 50 to 100 trillion cells and each one is made out of 100 trillion atom that is complex seriously stressful level of like you know coherent Behavior because the universe desires coherency desires ever greater intimacy and complexity

there's a there's a desire at the core at the core of the cosmos the system is self interacting so it has feedback so it will self organized into higher and higher level of coherency but our current theories have only noticed the Deery we've only looked at the radiation part not at the collapsing part at the part that's going into coherency it's like we've only looked at the water going away from the drain not the water that's falling into the drain and but in order for de coherency in order for entropy to occur must be centropy

they must be neg entropy so are you are you are you starting to talk about this forces of polarity whereas there's some some expanding like light expanding and then there's another Force pulling like the antithesis of that is that which is gravity okay yeah so I'm I'm showing you so put it back into the plun plasma I call it this fi the plank plasma said this PL and imagine all this smoothie of it's billions and billions of plank just for a proton right it's a trillions of PL and when you calculate the energy of all

these plank you get the exact mass of the universe by the way so so we're clear in the proton when you calculate the mass of all the little plun spinning you get the mass of the universe and then when you calculate the radiation energy of that black hole you get the standard mass that we measure but but I I I want to I want to say so so imagine that that's spinning right and and there's think of this fluid Dynamic plung plasma is radiating out at the equator that's the electromagnetic field and the stuff that's

going back in That's Falling in the the circulation of this plun plasma that's why when you said this track that the God was on is circulation when you write this equation using circulation when it's circulation then you get the right gravitational field that we measure at the proton scale that's holding the nucle together that we call the strong force or the Color Force you get the right value right okay yeah okay so you got so so you have a flow out and you have a flow in and that's and that's the polarity so for every

for every out there's an in there's an in exactly yeah and those forces are in dialectic tension so to speak that's right at the Horizon and that's why you've created a bubble whether it's a proton or a star or a Galaxy yeah and and if you tell a physicist that the sun is a black hole he's going to tell you no that's false why because he's solving Einstein fi equations using the plunk uh the the the call child solution which is it's funny it It's really funny because whenever you use Einstein field equation and we

use it to describe the dynamics of planets spinning around stars or whatever every time you do that you make a black hole with the star you make a black hole with the planet and then you get the right answer every time you're using KW child solution every time people don't realize that they get taught the equations they don't think twice they use this they've made a black hole with the sun and the black hole with the with the with the planet to get the right answer um and so the they and and so okay so

so why is he going to tell you it's not a it's not a black hole the star is not a black hole that the sun is not a black hole he's going to tell you that because if you solve for the mass of the sun with CW shell solution of Einstein fil equation the radius of the Sun would have to be like 18 kilometers it shouldn't be what we see right but that's assuming that the mass man they don't understand their own equation like listen the equation says that at certain density light could not Escape

anymore it's a density equation mhm if you assume that the density is homogeneous throughout the sun then of course it can't have that radius MH and be a black hole but you could have a black hole inside the Sun MH that has the correct density for it to be a black hole MH right and then a space and then the plasma that's spinning around it just like a Galaxy right and the two the plasma Mass plus the black hole in the middle is the mass of the Sun You observe and you would have no idea

mhm either than two things that we measure that would give us an idea and certainly give me an idea okay one is that there would be region on the surface of the Sun that would like where matter would like tend to want to fall in right and it would make like spots where it's really dark because photons would be sucked in and plasma would be sucked in and all this do we see that on the sun of course they're called sunspot some of them are like 14 times the size of the Earth they're not small

events they're huge vortices on the sun right that are absorbing material and out of these holes of soundspot radiation comes out okay x-ray it's the highest level of X-ray right this is exactly what you expect when particles falls into black hole so if you imagine if you imagine a sun and you applied the yin-yang symbol from from dosm right which is and of course it's designed in a flat thing so it's not exactly it's not exactly I think accurate from a physics perspective model but there's the black part of the of the symbol and then

there's the light part of the symbol and you could imagine that there's the black part then would be the black hole the sucking in that's right the white part would be the expanding out of light but each sun is like a little yin-yang each atom is like a little yin-yang where there's very good where I love your mind man thanks it's remarkable you do very good because those concepts are complex but you know you um this is why I made a 3D rendering of the ying-yang showing it was a Taurus for the white part to

be in the black and for the black part to be yes it had to be a Taurus in 3D that's why I did it wow I didn't see that yeah I'll have to show you cute that's very cool I've realized in my own in my own study of myself I also you know if I think of myself let's say I'm a I'm a planet or whatever there's a part of me that's the light the life that's that's emitting right and then there's also a part of me that I call anti you that's actually sucking and

actually like pulling against me cing you yeah and it's like pulling pulling against the expansion and but also necessary for the creation yeah of who I am if you didn't have that Center you couldn't exist right like all the Masters talking about go to your Center be in your Center look inside to your Center like which is then looking back into the unified field and seeing seeing the force that connects everything and then and the spin that radiates you every day right because you're burning carnal energy like you're burning like at 100 degree Fahrenheit all

day long seven days a week Tre and if it varies by a few degrees you're having a really bad day right it's got to stay pretty steady right nonstop right it's significant amount of energy we can get into that but I want to give you the second evidence for the sun um which is more recent when we measure the gamma ray emission of the sun it's it's nothing like it should be like we're measuring way too much Gamay emission of the Sun and that you know it if you calc how much like what would be

the source of such gam emission you'd have a black hole in the middle and so these are things and there's there's other example there's the nutrino issue there's all kinds of things including this is really important including that when we see a star explode and people think it's very rare that the star explode it's not like if you look at galaxies it's like um it's like uh you know Christmas lights in a galaxy you know boom boom boom boom boom it's constantly blowing you know this the stars blowing their their their envelope continuously and when

we and and we call it the the death of a star or it's called a supernova right the super noova explosion what do we find after the star is dead we don't find like oh there's nothing there anymore because it just blew all to shreding you know it that's not what we find we find a pulsar or black hole in the middle Pulsar is basically a black hole you know and and and we you know and if you and then people are realizing you know oh they call it a pulsar when they're looking on the

side but if they look down the poles they call it a black hole you know anyway so you're finding a super energetic black hole structure mhm and we have this completely reverse in astrophysics we think that it's because the star exploded that there's a black hole as if you know an explosion it would have to be absolutely completely symmetric it's not possible for an explosion to produce a black hole the black hole was there first mhm that's what made the star the black hole is the spin of the quantum vacuum energy in that region of

space and then it gathers matter it makes matter right because it's making smaller spins right that we call protons and then eventually it gathers enough material so that it lights up right because there's enough energy there's enough friction in the system there's enough Fusion that the thing lights upes and just and go so it's it's actually creating more and more energy from the zero point field more and more and more energy until finally it can't hold that energy and and it it drags it starts dragging on SpaceTime so much and and there's the carbon cycle

that we observe in our sun where you know the the other layers start cooling off and they start making a shell and then the the energy builds inside and then eventually bam it blows mhm and when it blows it puts material everywhere in its vicinity right this material reorganize on smaller vortices of SpaceTime MH right of the vacuum fluctuation and makes Planet MH this is why the first exoplanets we found planets outside of our solar system we found we found them around pulsars and everybody was like how can there be planets there right it just

blew up like how can there be planets that's because and and as well this is why we're missing 80% the mass of the galaxies we have to add Dark Matter this dark matter Dark Energy thing it's just because we haven't calculated the quantum vacuum energy and the Dynamics of such a thing inside the Galaxy as soon as you put that in you get the right answers so you know basically it's the Smoothie Universe you just got to think of it that way and now you can start to see yeah you know earlier on when I

was presenting in physics they were telling me planets are probably extremely rare and because of their model and from my model I was saying planets should be around almost every Star because they go through this cycle of blowing material out that reorganizes in planets this is why all the material we see in our solar system we know came from the Sun mhm right this is because you know the protoplanetary disc we are in the other thing they notice is that oh it's bizarre our sun is in the middle of this bubble of nothing that's because

and they and they say well they must have been a supernova explosion near our sun that made that moved everything out and it's like no if if there was an explosion a supernova near our sun our son would have been moved out with the rest of stuff it's our son that has gone through one of those Cycles right and that has made planets and so I predicted there would be planets around pretty well every Sun every Star and that's what we're finding we're actually having a hard time finding stars that don't have planets right and

we're having a hard time explaining why we're finding super massive very mature galaxies and black holes at the beginning of the universe because now with our telescope we can see almost to what we call the big bang right and we see huge black holes and galaxies there in the standard model should not be there MH but that's because of course this it it is the source of the Galaxy not the result it's the source of stars not the result it's the source of matter not the result you know like it mass is generated by this

fundamental field is there such a thing as like anti-mass or or a vacuum that is the antithesis of of mass itself in some level as as you kind of balance the equation right so if there's something that's in articulation then there's something that's in the antithesis of that articulation magnetic field is what you could call enti Mass uh right it's it's what radiates out and that's why Photon have zero Mass right it's what radiates out so when it radiates out when the plun field when this fundamental field is is moving out it's um it's going

towards zero mass and when it's going in it's going towards infinite Mass you see and then if you if you I'm trying to get this in words of course that a little bit difficult but I I'm hoping your followers are following yeah I I really I know it's it's Technical and I hope it's interesting to them because really it sits at the center of our existence and I think it and it will bring technology that will change the world fundamentally and you know I don't like using this sentence but it will save the world like

yes and I I'm it's not a saving thing because it's it's just a natural evolution of any societies they eventually figure out how the electromagnetic fields works and because it's easier right because it's radiating out so it's easier to understand and then eventually they figure out how the gravitational field emerg from the foundation of the electromagnetic field from this ground state of the electromagnetic field and that's the second step of an advanced civilization right and then when they have that they have not only almost infinite amount of energy available to them but they have gravity

control so they don't need to be on the surface of a planet anymore they control gravity they can make Ships In Space the size of planets if they want to right because as soon as you can control gravity you all of a sudden you can do whatever you want you can go to Jupiter for the weekend you see and that changes your Consciousness fundamentally right so then yeah so I think for the second part of this podcast you know now that we understand the universe in a deeper way yeah I'd like to go into okay

so how does this how does this impact an ordinary individual as they're on their own path of evolution and transformation right like so how do how does somebody who's listened to all this hopefully kept with us in this deep understanding had their mind blown several times like I have and then how does this actually apply to an ordinary person how does that change how they go about living their life oh there's so many ways it's so incredible to understand this um at the most profound level you like I think that I at least to start

with a sense that you're part of something much like you're not isolated you're connected to this whole incredible mechanism of creation and that you're like you know part of this Universal Network thinking MH that your thinking matters that it's part it's like one bit in the Universal brain if you'd like and that like you have your role to play yeah like someone said the sum total of all Minds in the universe is one exactly right but we're participating in the one mind uniquely as our unique participation so that the the universe is a seamless but

not featuress you know experience like you're the trillions of neurons you know firing in your brain right they collectively produce coherent thoughts right and all the and so you can think so so to to actually land that to to integrate that that you're not isolated that you're connected that you're part of a that there's a fundamental pulse of creation at the source of your existence I think that's really profound and there's many layers to that realization you know there's many layers to and and and to do that like now you have mechanical equations you have

you know how to get get there right you know you have to go instead of outside the Event Horizon which is the radiative side you know you have to go inside the Event Horizon right you and it's not in uh esoteric way you literally you have to integrate which is really powerful for spiritual thoughts you have to integrate your physicality instead of trying to separate which is a lot of what this spiritual uh behaviors tend to do uh instead of separate from the physical world you want to integrate the phys you want to go inside

because that's where Singularity is right so to to start to experience yourself as 100 trillion cells for instance right you think I'm one person but I'm not one person I'm 100 trillion cells it's non-trivial right and and every second I'm making millions of cells right every second I'm I'm dividing about a million cell and and and every and there's billions of chemical changes occurring for me to continue to be here and if that thing decco air you know like I was saying if you start heating up by a few degrees it's not going to be

good if your if your blood plasma you know change pH by 01 of degree uh uh 0.1 um you know alkaline or acid uh you're not feeling well if it's going 02 you're like seriously sick and you're near death three you're dead right so like you know like this incredible thing that's happening that's keeping you alive right this incredible organization that you're part of is keeping you alive it's a pulse you know they and and so to to integrate that at the biological level is one thing but then if you go further and you go

even further inside yourself and integrate that each of these cell is made of 100 trillion atom now you've gone to the level in which you're like you can start to experience yourself as like you know photons of light emission and light absorption and you know you start to see yourself more as a I think what ancient civilization describe as the light being that you are you know you know Soul or whatever you know but through the material world not separate mhm now so the non-material entity ities which you know 25 years on The Psychotic path

I encounter non-material entities and even the non-material entities of past living things right in some way I guess I could look at that as I'm accessing the memory of what was once a physical entity that's right you you very good you you're accessing the information of that entity continuing on its path it does it the information that cannot this very clear principle of conservation of information in physics that show you you can't lose that information when an entity set of information cannot be lost MH so it's it's not limited to being in the physical but

you see this is where we get in problem in in trouble with words because when I'm saying information I'm information in in physics is is equivalent to energy I'm still talking about something physical right mhm it's just not in the physicality of a body mhm but it's still an energy that's cannot be lost yeah and so it can continue on its path and it can and it's absolutely valid that it could reorganize into something that has a body right which is reincarnation which is the concept of reincarnation yeah and and so this but this this

non-physical entity is not made of atoms at this point it's made of energy and remember I've I've shown that atoms is just coherent energy right right so it's it's it's coherent coherent energy Beyond the Horizon of mass right exactly it's it's energy that's still coherent yeah but at a different state of density mhm in the energy scales of our universe yeah you see and and at that's at that density of information in the energy Scale of the Universe to you at this density it appears like it's not there anymore yeah you you've lost communication capability

with this information set yeah or you might have communication capabilities but then people think you're or you're you know or Channel Channeler or whatever what's interesting about this is like these non-physical entities can impact can impact my physical my physical body like I can feel them when I'm in a journey I can feel when these entities I had this iasa experience recently where this giant mantis being was like this massive interdimensional Doctor Who was going in and fixing things and I could feel when it would it felt like light but it was going inside my

body body and like the the in iwasa they call them the doctos or this this Grand doctor that was just adjusting and manipulating you know the actual mass and and field of energy in my own in my own body through the etheric field and right and there yeah and and we can do that to each other this field of information we control it right which is like the mirror neuron effect the energy that we're we're sharing with each other that's impacting each other because we're all entangled through this field through the field yeah and we

can we can so so you're saying what is the one of the impact well when you understand the mechanics of this field you understand the atoms You're Made Of and the information that is you inside these atom is uh interacting with this field then you can say okay well you know I feel like my liver needs a little more energy right which is typically always for me because I I I push I put my liver to the test yes I'm very guilty and and you you can direct this energy and and people that are good

at directing this energy which was well known by like taii yeah these people are called healers right because they can direct this energy and help recover you know from C certain regions in your body that might uh start decohering because they're uh becoming separate there's a decoherence in that region of of space and and and the coherence it can become decoherent when there's a lack of energy right so there's one Otto von warberg has this metabolic theory of cancer which I think is very interesting which is saying that cancer develops from a failure of the

mitochondria to produce sufficient energy very good and how does the mitochondria produce energy do you know the Krab cycle I I don't know yeah but it's it's a little motor electromagnetic motor that's spinning like a bad out of hell it's a the the mitochondria has all these little mortars that are separating electrons from protons and creating a potential an energy potential they're spinning at like 60 6,000 RPM if you're doing nothing but if you're running a marathon they're spinning at 60,000 RPM mhm these little Motors and and and and in a marathon you will you

will recycle approximate going through these motors approximately a ton of ATP which is the molecule of energy of your cells and when these motors start to break down they start not spinning as well and not spinning as fast and all this they start and by the way they're doing this in water right so it's fluid dynamics I want to remind right and and and when they start to break down then the cells start to make errors and it's dividing and this is literally getting old yeah so it's a it's in we're not actually supplying the

sufficient amount of energy to keep coherence and keep so it starts decohering so that it can reorganize at a different energy level and and when but knowing this knowing that that pulse that's making all this work is coming from the Zero Point Energy you can with the right technology recare the space inside your body so that this decoherence does not happen or reverse the decoherence by improving the mitochondria so one of the treatments that Travis Christopherson talks about one of this one of the treatments to support the mitochondria to produce more energy right is restricted

ketogenic diets which actually allow you to get you know Ketone energy Fuel and also rehabilitate the mitochondria along with hyperbaric oxygen so you're packing in more oxygen more energy that's coming from these oxygen molecules also breath work can do this so you're packing the body with more vital life force energy triggering an increase Thea and then that the body the miraculous you know capability that's possible it's really about how much energy can you put back into the body whereas on the other side it's like okay let's attack the cancer and then you do all of

these treatments radiation and chemotherapy which is sucking the energy out of your body there's a good chance it's going to decohere you to the point that yeah you've killed the cancer but you killed the guy with it right right and so so there may be specific instances where this is important for this specific thing but fundamentally underneath that you have to be supporting your vital life force energy which is about your thoughts your beliefs your connection to the the field the information that you're moving through the feedback of your field exactly when you talk about

thoughts and beliefs and how you're functioning in the world this is what you're sending in the field and that's what the field is sending you back as your reality right this is the feedback I'm talking about like that that is you're in charge of that one that's your job right you're not taking care of the 100 billion you know chemical change that has to happen every second for you to stay coherent but you have you have the responsibility of what you're putting in the field your interpretation of the field so that the field can feed

you back what you can you know the the best experience right and and so really that that's really important to know like you see there's so many implications um because there's remarkable things there's all sorts of anomalies you have people in India and I I've played with it I'm just going to leave it at that uh that don't eat like there's a famous case of a guy that was studied by NASA you know like you know they put him in a chamber where they measured everything the guy hasn't ate since he was 18 he was

in his 70s I believe or late 60s when they did the test okay the guy doesn't eat doesn't drink um you so a breatharian yeah brarian right and that's real oh absolutely wow I've talked to the doctors that did the test you know they were all mind blown right they couldn't believe it you know um and like they they have like scans of his bladder filling up with only absorbing the only thing that can account for that is I mean it seems like at some point he would have to replenish the water itself though right

well that's what I was saying because eventually sweat but so he stopped sweating he stopped sweating he stopped sweating he could he was not sweating we're talking somebody you if you put him in a sauna he'd be [ __ ] maybe I don't know I don't know if they tried that but I the the guy you know and and I mean it's remarkable but those are tests that were done by NASA and very serious scientists in India um and the only thing that can that can account for that is the is this Zero Point Energy

that we have access to consider this there is a problem in the current views of nourishment meaning when you're recycling a ton of ATP when you run a marathon do you really think that it came from the eggs and bacon you ate that morning right I mean I tend to believe and you know from personal experience I don't need to discuss but you know that actually everybody is feeding off this fundamental pulse of energy MH at the quantum scale and actually the paper I'm about to publish in biophysics demonstrate the scaling that produce you know

the the activity of the brain but when when you when you think of it this way then you could say maybe I'm just supplementing because when you calculate the amount of energy it takes to break down the food get it into your blood get the glucose getting into the mitochondria all this and the amount of energy you're burning every day it doesn't add up it doesn't add up so it's like there's a deficiency somewhere there's another source of energy let's put it that way but at some point at some point that is not rigorously done

and it needs to be done rigorously I just want to put that as a caveat I know that NASA did some tests you know they made a su where they could like completely enclose like calculate all the energy the the body uses and all this which is it's it's remarkable it's it's significant amount of energy um and uh yeah it doesn't it doesn't quite add up it seems like you know even in this case let's assume that this case is true and this guy didn't eat from 18 it seems like for the growth necessary to

reach the maturity of the body he probably did need to with different proteins and different particular forms he did need to eat a child needs to nurse at the breast you know to actually build build and grow and grow but once you reach a point of stasis like this guy's not gaining weight no you know because he because that would require that would require more yeah more supplementation but he walked every day a few kilometers every morning and every night so he was able to replenish the energy that he was burning from this alternative energy

source exactly that's you know that's really mind BL I always thought I always thought breatharians were just closet they just they just ate in a quiet secret and drank in a quiet secret place I'm sure there's some of those but that's another thing I'm sure there's some of those yeah but because it's the ultimate Flex it's like what what's your diet breath yeah yes but you know there's remarkable things I mean um there is all kinds of organization now that are showing kids out to see without their eyes mhm you know I've seen I've seen

some of that it's remarkable you know there's a there's a thing called Viber Vision a group of people in the US that are teaching that there's people in India teaching that all this and it's remarkable these kids literally you know you blindfold them like they can catch balls yeah we've put sensored in there you know to make sure there's no photons going in right and and make sure they cannot see right they cannot see they have like patches on their eye plus a mask and everything and and they read a book and they don't have

to open it you know it's [ __ ] remarkable you know why because they're accessing information that's in the field mhm right so so one of the key these are remarkable things of course and and I think one of the key things that I've really the reason why you know in you're very generous in complimenting my mind the reason why I I believe that I have any intelligence at all is because I've practiced the art and and actually the medicine lineage and Technology of accessing the field like so much of the information that I'm getting

is for me accessing the field Beyond me so it's like it just feels like a blessing that I'm able to create the bridge yeah and it's you know it has its own problems because in the bridge gets translated through it I'm not always fully right and things mature and evolve but but the accessing to this field of information which is what allows all of these Mystics and all these ancient Traditions to access information that was Bey far beyond the comprehension that they yeah consider that maybe all creative thoughts you know all discoveries mhm they came

if you when when Einstein was asked where did you come up with this you know it's like you know it was internal you know uh Imaging and gut feeling and you know like instinct and you know he said like himself you know that that instinct or imagination is more important than facts right because that's the source now eventually you have to like make sure that the facts work with what you came up with but but where like you know creativity where does it come from it's an internal thing or like the pro the Musical prodigies

who can just sit down at a piano and play a concerto right you know they're like channeling into a a rhythm and a vibrational pattern in the and they're just able to translate that into music translate that you know so many people who' have had a dream and then come out with an entire composition based on this dream you're accessing the the field of field of information of information and and and I would suggest that your Consciousness is exactly that is accessing the field of information acting on it your interpretation of it and your action

in the field produce a reaction from the field that we call reality M right yeah so it it's really profound yes when you start to connect at that level it's really profound and I want to say it's typically not understood in its mechanics and and we can write the mechanics of such a thing it's not outside uh science it's not outside physics it's not like another dimension it's not like that stuff doesn't it's all here it's all one thing it's not separate it's one thing and that and that Revel the revelation of the interconnectedness of

everything you realize that you can't do anything harmful to anybody else or a planet or anything else that is actually not doing harm to yourself yourself course which creates a whole different set of morality exactly in which you have to create a reciprocal balance and hopefully a net Surplus where you're adding to life rather than subtracting from life exactly and so you know people say oh but humans will always fight we'll always kill each other we'll always destroy I don't agree with those statements I think that hum must naturally babies are peaceful right naturally they

we we've just been tweaked you know we have so much trauma like even just the first few seconds when we're born here like the amount of trauma we experience and and and so but I I don't think that's a natural state I I think I think that a society that understands these fundamental principles and this is one of the reason as well that I don't believe in you know uh offensive you know extraterrestrials uh because I think that a society that reach higher level of awareness and understanding of the mechanics of the universe automatically arrive

to that level where in this Society law would not be required because everybody knows when they're doing good and everybody knows when they're doing something that's hurting others or hurting themsel and this is this is a place where personally I would I would potentially disagree with this so I want you to follow me on this potential idea of entities or groups of civilizations that could actually be extractive so if you reduce if you reduce and this is the idea of aramon from theose a crucian tradition the idea of Arman is you look at the field

of energy and Through The Eyes of Christ let's say the the christic impulse you see the field as love and you see the actual in the interconnectedness but if you reduce it to power just power so the field is just power then you could create a Morality In which power is the only thing that matters and your goal is to accumulate the maximum amount of power for yourself so it's service to self based upon a power dynamic I want myself to have the most power possible yeah this is pretty well the state of our world

right now this is exactly what's happening in our world and that could fra that could and I think believe does fractal up higher where there's if we go the wrong way we can create a world in which there's beings that are just reducing themselves to a hierarchy where there's ultimately one being so right now it's probably a bunch of Elites but there's all the elites will compete and compete and compete until there's one being that accumulates all of the Power and then has the has the right to extract energy from all of the other things

and that and that extends that can happen I agree and I believe that has that has happened and there up so there's a there's a stopping point there is because the system will self destroy the the system will self disorganize eventually it it's not sustainable the nature of the universe is not so so it's not sustainable it cannot a society like this will self-destruct like look at ours in 150 years of um you know uh scientific Evolution we're on the Brinks right and well it may self-destruct but let's say let's take do you ever see

uh read Dune or you watch any of the Dune movies yeah I watch the Dune movies okay so imagine you remember the Harkins the Harkins are you know the what the house of Trades is fighting against and they're this pale kind of homogeneous and they have a very clear hierarchy where the leader of the heinens can do anything they want to any of the other people and but there's an absolute top- down totalitarian domination domination model I understand what you're saying I the reason I disagree is because um that's true politically or socially you can

do that right but it will not lead you to technology in which you can go across the universe right so if if somebody's visiting from across the universe they figured fundamental principles of creation mhm and if they have that then they understand that everything understand that whenever they do arm they're doing arm to themselves they they understand that if they don't understand that they self- destroyed long before they pass their Moon you know look at our society we're on the Brinks we barely passed the moon and some people would you know debate that um you

know and and so we you know like like us for instance going to like with this way of doing things where all the power is concentrated to a few individuals we're about to self-destruct right we wouldn't make it across the solar system never mind across you know to another solar system to it's we we H we can't develop the tools and the understanding necessary using this kind of mentality M and so so I don't see how an advanced civilization like for instance let let me give you in another in another context imagine your civilization that

has gravity control and vacuum and energy uh technology you have pretty well all the energy you can ever need anywhere you are right and you can travel across the Galaxy let's say or even you know intergalactically right in organic alone there's last centory is about 40 billion planets and that's very conservative mhm that's one Galaxy let's say have access to that why would you need right to take over the Earth right for instance right which is a small because you already have access to Infinite Energy you have access to Infinite Energy infinite resources if you

want gold you you can you have chunks of gold that are floating around that the size of continent right so you get gold right if you you don't go and mess with a planet if anything when you go to a planet you going to try to make it evolve faster right you're going to try to support it let help it flourish because you know that more people there is more viewpoints there is more the universe is growing more viewpoints you know more there neurons in the system right so you you you want that to happen

so you're going to encourage that and I would suggest and this is just my opinion but from the research I've done on this planet that there is evidence that there was encouragement at one point no I agree with that I agree with that completely all right but let's say then let's say then you are in this service to self mentality right and there's just like our bodies there's there's an entropy that naturally occurs where we're going to dissolve back into back into a different form we're going to transform but what if we say I don't

want to transform I want to stay as the entity that I am and the only way that I can source that I can't source that I can't undo the force of entropy that's trying to dissolve me back into the all which is Perpetual life is a beautiful process but if I can vampiric or parasitically harvest energy from some other civilization some other planet some other people I can use that to supplement my own energy so that I can stay alive longer and all I care about is that I stay alive longer not that life exists

right right so do you think that that to me is where I believe that this does could go a little farther is is beings that are unwilling to transform it's not um you mean eternal life well there yeah they're unwilling to surrender their temporal form so there is on our planet currently animals that are Eternal so if you look up it you know uh uh Eternal uh animals or if you look up you know uh uh um yeah you will find you know there's like uh uh Jellyfish and actually lobsters um they die because their

shell don't grow as fast as they do and all this but uh Jellyfish that are can be Eternal um you know if they don't get eaten by a CH or whatever but you know the the there's multiple species um not just a few like this quite a bit of them that are Eternal um so the idea that cell can be stay coherent and continue to redo themsel and you know not lose energy and decoherent is clearly demonstrated in our world is possible okay um but somebody that's doing what you just describe um would be you

you have to consider what they would have to so so let me make it clear because I don't want to be misunderstood do I believe you can make technology so that you can be immortal absolutely what I'm telling you is that to get to that technology you're going to have to have the level of Consciousness right so there's no decoupling at the ultimate level of the consciousness with technology the universe is fail is fail safe yes it cannot civilization cannot reach huge level of like technology and and completely destroy the universe right because and be

completely unaware okay but what about this what about this scenario so so step Greer I don't know if you're familiar with his work he's basically saying that there's in his belief that there's we've accessed the technology just the technology to be able to access the Zero Point Energy yeah but the people in this you know kind of deep State you know world the people many inventors have yeah many many other inventors have as well but most of them are dead yeah like Tesla and you know I think he was he was close to getting this

or maybe got it right but we've somehow accessed unnaturally by recovered cra and by other other different things and kept that and so we've we have access te to technology that's beyond our Consciousness so there's a there's a Delta there's a gap there's a gap and so we could weaponize that technology because our Consciousness hasn't caught up to understand the nature of that we haven't thought it through yeah you can you can reach certain levels this way then but then there is there's a limit to it because when you go down that path of this

advanced technology eventually that technology is tuned to the same dynamics of feedback of the universe right the will of karma yeah okay and so you're increasing in power but if you're the technology you're using is is tuning to your level of Consciousness yeah you can look at it that feedback in the current technology our level Consciousness not so high sure there's a Delta right now between our technology and our cons exactly and the technology is about to destroy us because our level of consciousness of how we're using it is not so good right and so

basically I mean we're literally shooting at each other and killing children you know and so with it right so but so this becomes so it's self-destructive yes right so this becomes very dramatic when the Technologies like for instance a singularity in a in a in a in a crystal ball let call it right and it's in contact with your awareness and you're trying to destroy with it it will kill you it will decohere you instantaneously it's like the feedback now is like instantaneous instead of taking 10 generation it takes 10 seconds right yeah he also

talks about and one of the things is technology assisted Consciousness or Consciousness assisted technology where actually the technology and the Consciousness actually have to be linked so the way that these crafts move is through accessing the field of Consciousness and if you're accessing the field of Consciousness you you can't take it peace meal you got to take it the whole way you know this was best represented in um in fighter uh Pilots that um you know I think it was in the late '90s 2000s um maybe a little bit later on um I was aware

of this because you know people talk to me that are from inside organizations I'm just going to leave it at that and you the the fighter pilots were too slow reactive to the speed of the planes mhm and uh it was becoming a problem and they wanted to explore how they can hook the control of the plane directly to the brain right with sensors and all kinds of things so that and there is some of that in Pilot but the the it was a there was a problem because if the pilot had a bad day

that morning got in a big fight with his wife whatever something happened they were emotionally not like the sensors would go off you know the chart and and like the plane was bouncing all over the place and you know it was no good right and so they taught their pilots uh to meditate so that they could like calm themselves and be Rico here be coherent and all this and not have the sensor go off scales right well after they got the pilots to start meditating you know daily and meditation practice and you know all the

things that go with him eventually the pilots were like okay we're really good at controlling the plane but we're not willing to shoot at people you know we're not willing to drop the bombs right where like because they reach levels of awareness they're going wait I don't want to kill other people right you see see it's linked you can't couple the two all right so then what about the what about the belief systems like uh Zoroastrianism or even parts of Christianity which say that in polarity there's the force of good life expansion you know the

Consciousness that we're talking about um and that's auro Mazda you know which is like all things that are good life all of this love and then there's angru or Arman on the other side which is the antithesis of that and that there's these natural forces in the cosmos that's still all true yeah that's still all true but we as participating in a body we're already on team life we're already already part of Team you know team Aur Mazda but think of it this way let's say our world got this level of Technology became enlightened and

all this and this planet became paceful okay that doesn't mean that there's not other planets in the universe that are at a lower level of evolution and haven't figured that out yet yeah it's still happening it's just that which side of the fence are you on right and it and it's not white or black it's gray it's a it's all gray scale there's no perfect white there's no perfect black it's all gray scale like it's where you are and the level of consciousness of your you know Collective that's where you place in the in the

gray Scale of the Universe between white and black you know I don't believe in evil I don't like it it doesn't that you know it would be like Darkness uh darkness is just the absence of light right it's it's not a thing right no yeah Darkness isn't the ABS but there would there could be something called anti-light which would be the antithesis of light right but it and okay and that would still be how anti-light are you you like where on the gray scale are you right so like for instance you know you you meet

people and you say oh you know they're they're more loving or they're less loving or you know like there this there's all kinds of scales of evolution right and and you might have noticed in your life there's definitely jump you know there's definitely like a horizon where you like you comprehend something right all of a sudden you like it it lands on you oh my God right and and then you got it and then 10 minutes before you you hadn't had it right and then you got to integrate and it takes time but still you

can think that like a civilization collectively can all of a sudden integrate that we're part of a field that everything we do in that field is interacting with everything and and developed and and realiz that like oh wow we're we're so interconnected we need to be careful what we do how we treat each other and all this like this can happen especially if that comprehension is not just a spiritual awakening but it's actually a physics Awakening like uh here's the mechanics on how we are all connected here is how it works and here's the technology

you can build so you can work on the intercon it can work on the interconnection of the universe and so now you have infinite amount of energy you can get any so why would you fight for energy no I get it so I I agree with you that there's no there's no being that we know inest especially incarnated being that is absolute evil or absolute good right but there's some we're all participating in some scale between good and evil in some and there is in any grayscale there's the terminal point of that grayscale which is

absolute if you're looking at just color which is you know I think a problem be but you look at it there will be the point on this on the gradient of absolute light call it the Christ and then there'll be the point of absolute absolute black which call it Aron and you might fluctuate and and you are somewhere somewhere in the dance you're never you're never going to reach absolute unless maybe you say oh Christ actually reached absolute in that well you might you might reach absolute I I I I I I mean the fundamental

message of I like to call him Emanuel as he's described in the Bible um was that everybody can get there right like that was the the core of his message you will do greater things than I did you know yeah totally and so so that's the that's the potential that he actually opened up in the memory in the possibility in the memory and the possibility is he reached the potential right of absolute love and you might fluctuate meaning you might be in that state one moment and the next moment somebody cut you off on the

highway and now you're flipping him off right like and you even saw that transformation happen even in the Christ at the moment on the cross where the first was you know why have you forsaken me as he was talking like which is this moment of Doubt moment in which was and then he eventually forgave forgave forgave even the soldiers who were throwing dice to take take his garments and his enemies who were crucifying him in the most horrible way and so ultimately went out you know he exited if you believe the story and the myth

he exited in in Purity in peace yeah yeah in h and but and that that's available to you yes that's available to you anytime you like you you know how many times people have done wrong to you and you know it hurt and it was painful whatever but eventually you got to the place where like I I bless them love thy enemy yeah I love them for the lesson I've learned and you know and I wish them the best right and and so it's it's something that's available right it's not and and I think you

know the the Masters come and they give us examples of what is possible and typically they're the first one to say that's available to you you know you can do this you don't have to venerate me you can do it yourself like you have access um they're the first one to do that but then the people around them typically after they're gone start religions and all kinds of things and use that for their own create power structures Etc exactly yeah I guess I I guess for me I just I fundamentally do believe that people can

also as we can access our potential for light love we can also access our potential for Darkness or evil like like Hitler was an antithesis to C that decoheres pretty quick yeah massive destruction yeah that's massive destruction and if they succeed then it's the whole thing is gone the whole thing it's a w yeah it's a WRA and then let's say that the information is not lost like we talked about before well maybe they continue on another planet doing that until they get it that like shooting yourself in the foot is not the best way

which is why good always wins in the end yeah well eventually it goes up the scale towards White Hope right right well it it has to because the other Force is destru is destructive by its very nature and so if the universe is expanding life is cohering in different intimacy patterns and and complexities you know it it must must ultimately succeed whatever doesn't work it decoheres and reorganize into something that works yeah yeah so this destruction is always a part of creation that's right I mean if you didn't have what we are calling the dark

Loosely right you wouldn't have learned anything right right you fell so that you could walk right your opponent is your evolutionary partner that's right right yeah I believe that I believe that 100% that the darkness serves the light It ultimately shows us where we're decohering and invites us to a greater level of coherence and love this is literally those I mean Loosely speaking this is those correlation function equation that show that like overall you get a plus right you get you get more and because you have to get the thing to keep spinning it's going

to continue to evolve whether you're you're on the gray scale over there or you're on the gray scale over there it's going to continue to evolve you know like whether earth makes it through this little evolutionary moment that we're experiencing right now or not it will continue to evolve is there a point where the universe collapses back into a singularity I've I've seen like because we think of the expansion that comes from a big bang at a plunk scale you know minuscule amount that a burst of energy of infinite capacity and and again you may

have some alternate theories of that but it always seemed like this was like breathing in a way like the universe is going to expand and then at a certain point it's going to reach its its terminal velocity and all the complexity is going to be reached and then it'll collapse back into Singularity and then expand again into a new you know univ I I remember if you if there's no Center to hold it it cannot exist right so when it's expanding it's just because you're experiencing that part that's expanding out from it right but it's

constantly claing at the same time uhhuh remember for every bit that goes out there's a bit that goes in right so it's continuous the inhale and exhale is happening at plun seconds yeah exactly or depending at which scale you're measuring or sub plun or proton or you know depending at which scale you're measuring the inhale exhale it's it's happening at that speed at that scale right and so so then you you realize wow it's it's just an infinite cycle and and that becomes really hard that you know when I figured that out I was in

a van I've lived in a van for five years I was you know in the desert in Joshua Tree and I remember the moment very the good stuff no no no I was I was very very pure at the time I I had you know touching anything but I was I I I was climbing every morning climbing every night I was soloist and I um I really had this moment where I realized wow it's an infinite cycle and I had to let go of a beginning mhm and I had to let go of an end

mhm and that was hard I had to like stop you know everything I was doing and like integrate for a few weeks like I couldn't do any physics I couldn't study I couldn't do anything I was just like how do I let go of a start yeah it's the chicken in the egg [ __ ] you know basically right it's like yeah and then I when I and then I one point I integrated wow it's just a beautiful incredible cycle that I'm part of uhhuh and I I can let go and and and and then

my tension went back down and I I was like okay I can just be infinite in nature right I the information I am I mean that sounds all so esoteric but I really I really impressed that it's coming from actually understanding the physics yeah um but you know it really is remarkable when you when you let go because then you realize wow what a pro like what an amazing process I'm in right right like this amazing transformative world I'm living in that's constantly changing we don't experience it so much because for instance we're making a

million cells every second but like we don't see see them being made and we don't see all the cells we're losing and so we just think of oursel as some stable thing or we're on the planet flying through space at millions of kilometers a second and we think it's all stable and you know we don't experience you know the the the Dynamics of of the world where actually and the fragility of the world we we on you know and so to actually like realized that I'm part of this amazing mechanics of creation is very profound

so then and so so I have another model that comes from my friend matius Stefano I don't know if you're familiar with matius d but he met him a few times he's lovely lovely man yeah sweet yeah really really love that brother yeah so he has a nine-dimensional model of the of the cosmos and in this in the ninth Dimension it is the memory is completely full right like every possibility every possibility has has occurred in this which is kind of impossible for us to imagine it's Infinity it's an infinity of every possibility all you

all multiverses all everything all the memory is full and there creates a singularity event when the memory is full because every different possibility has been recorded in in the in the universe and at that moment there's a singularity which then Cycles back into the first di menion of Singularity again which then restarts the process right again so what would you say about that yeah it sounds like he's describing the multi- you know embedded bubble universe that I was describing earlier um I don't like to use the word Dimension sure because it means something different to

the physicist than it means to the spiritual people right and so it gets confusing uh but um I think that like what well first of all I'd like to comment on one thing like it's hard to visualize Infinity it that is true if you're trying to visualize infinitely big and which is what people typically do but actually if you try to visualize infinitely small because it's within you you actually can get there you can't and and as well as something that's really important about Infinity that people don't necessarily realize and that is that um that

caner which was an excellent mathematician that you know was really not appreciated in his time um came up with this proved generally that um that there can be an infinite amount of Infinities and I I I I'm mentioning this and I like to give him credit but you know because Infinities doesn't mean that there's no boundary Infinities means that there can be infinite amount of boundaries embedded within each other well you see yeah and now you can visualize infinite amount of Infinities because from any boundary you can divide to Infinity right but it's still a

confined boundary you see yeah and so so and this is really what actually got me going when I was 10 mhm the I I I I saw that because I was confused about Dimensions the the teacher taught me dimensions and I didn't understand what he was talking about because he made a point and said Dimension zero doesn't exist doesn't have volume I'm like well there's a point if there's a point there's something right so what do you mean there's nothing like I I was already lost I knew is going to fail that class geometry there's

there's this one thing that was shared with me which is like a like a and some Way's like a [ __ ] right so let's say you're imagining an arrow that's moving towards a Target and at a certain time you know let's take half the distance half the distance between the arrow and the target you take half that distance half that distance half that distance yeah the the arrow is getting closer to the Target but you keep going half half half half to Infinity there's eventually you could say well if you're there's still always half

the distance it will never reach the target the target how do you Recon how do you reconcile that I've never been able to fully reconcile that I would I I can't remember the name of that theorem it's terrible I'm having a senior moment but I I I so I excuse my laps but uh I yes this mathematically can be resolved uhhuh the arrow will reach the target but conceptually it's an important concept mhm conceptually the target the what's important is infinite amount of Infinities that is even if the arrow has cross the Horizon of the

target MH it's still not touching anything because oh there it is there it is because the molecules right that makes up the arrow and the molecules that makes up the target are not touching they're quite the atoms are quite far from each other I get it if you grow the at the atom of a of a diamond molecule which is very dense right there some the densest material on Earth um to the size of an orange the other Orange orange in the same molecule is two football fields away so there's a lot of space right

and and and then inside the the atom itself there's you know the atom is 99.999999% space yeah there's a little teeny thing in the middle we call the proton this is what I've been addressing in physics that makes up the mass of the atom and all we can say about that thing is that in that region of space there's a high density electrostatic field we can't say really there's a boundary or you know it's it's it's basically a field of density that we're describing so the arrow is infinitely penetrating the target at infinitely small amounts

which looks like it stops and eventually you would get to the plun scale right yeah yeah so so so this is this is basic concepts that at 10 years old I start to think okay how so then physics is must be singularized it must I didn't understand black hole at the time I didn't understand Singularity but I had this concept of fractality that made every Point go to infinity and I started to think okay well how how would the world work under these conditions and that's what led to the physics I'm writing today that's that's

what an epic story and what an absolute pleasure it's been to sit here sit here with you if you add a message as we as we wrap up this conversation which I very much hope we get to have more conversations this has been just an absolute Delight for me thank you absolute Delight so if you had a if you had a message that you wanted to share to humanity right now imagine this was broadcast to every single being in on Earth at least you know imagining that other beings may not need this message but but

if you're going to message you know send a message to all being of Earth what would that message be do not despair there is incredible possibilities coming your way there's incredible beauty incredible you like you're you're an incredible being part of an incredible like magical Universe of infinite possibilities and you have incredible power and and Technology that's developed from that perspective is coming and so participate help help that type of technology to emerge to and and and and the world you know will be what every human or most human have instinctively the sense that could

happen which is a utopian world where you know everybody has enough or more than enough and um and uh you know we can be in peace with each other it is possible it's just an evolutionary step we're going through right now and and all the information everything is there for us to make this this leap to make this step it's all there don't don't get discouraged because it's easy to get discourage M it's really easy it's really and and you see people that are wonderful people like you know lose um hope yeah there's so much

possibility it's so beautiful our future is so bright if we choose to go that route and so let's choose it collectively make make your make your part do your part you know not just in thoughts not just in spirituality and development self-development but like get involved get involved at all the levels that you whatever excites you the most you know for the collective for the positive of the collective and we will pull out of that this little moment in the history so fast it will spin your head like you the the kids our kids will

see an amazing world evolve yeah that's so beautiful you know I think the the phrase that's repeated in the Bible the most is do not fear and and that means you know have hope have hope do not fear never like don't let go of that like do not fear like there's a greater system there's a greater thing that's driving this whole thing yeah and don't fall victim to that Despair and and go all in for all life and play our part yeah the concept of faith is not faith of of an institution it's faith of

the UN I have faith yes that it the universe didn't put us here for us to not have enough yeah right this like look around you the universe is so energetic there's so much energy there's so much creation it's so beautiful right if you get this courage go in nature go and hang in nature you know I live in the mountains I go in the mountains and I just turn all the rest off and I go oh yeah I remember oh yeah oh yeah I remember this is a beautiful beautiful Universe with Incredible possibilities amen

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