our research shows that your thoughts could make you sick and the question is if your thoughts could make you sick and your thoughts make you well that's absolutely possible and it's easy to learn so when you wake up in the morning Dr Joe dispenza researcher and best-selling author one of the most sought after speakers in the world all with the aim of helping people better understand and unlock the power of their minds I'm concerned about human species why 75 to 90 percent of every person that goes to a health care facility goes because of psychological
or emotional stress and gets addictive to people they need the bad relationship the bad job in order to feel and there's so much research to show that when they analyze their life within some disturbing emotion we saw that they were actually making the brain worse but fifty percent of that story isn't even the truth people are reliving a miserable life they never even had just to excuse themselves from changing you can't wait for your wealth to feel success you can't wait for your new relationship to feel love but 95 of Who We Are by the
age of 35 is programmed yeah but there is a way to change and so the model of change is breaking the habit of the old self and Reinventing a new self but if you teach people how to do that in seven days you can see very significant changes so try this out as an experiment first thing you have to do is Dr Joe you're someone that's constantly doing research and developing new ideas about way humans are and the way the universe is what are the beliefs in your head that you're too scared to share oh
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[Music] 95 of Who We Are by the age of 35 is programmed when I read that in your work kind of hit me like a ton of bricks because I just turned 30. and if what you're saying there is true without realizing it there's a puppet master that sits above me that's calling the shots in a way that I don't think I've realized is that true I think if we Define a habit is a redundant set of automatic unconscious thoughts behaviors and emotions that's acquired through repetition it happens when you've done something so many times
that your body now knows how to do it better than your conscious mind then it's programmed subconsciously so that when the body knows how to do it better than the conscious mind then for the most part the greatest habit we have to break is the habit of being ourselves right so there's a principle of Neuroscience that says that nerve cells that fire together wire together if you keep thinking the same way yeah if you keep making the same choices if you keep doing the same things if you keep reproducing the same experiences and feeling the
same emotions your biology begins to become hardwired in a sense it it becomes programmed so in order to change something to arrive at a new vision of your future if you were wanted to arrive at a new goal or New Vision of your future you'd have to change something about yourself in order to get there and you'd have to change the way you think the way you act and the way you feel when you begin to become conscious of those unconscious thoughts so conscious that you don't let them slip by your awareness unnoticed or unchecked
by you if you catch yourself speaking in a limited way or you're you become conscious that you're behaving in a certain way in a habit and you can notice or pay attention to how you're feeling then you're no longer the program how your Consciousness observing the program you're only unconscious when you're in the program and so to change then is to become so conscious that you don't don't go unconscious again and in a sense that is consciousness that is really the puppet master that really decides who we want to be I think the biggest problem
uh is that people lose their free will to a set of programs and so their body is basically programmed into predictable future based on what they've done in the past so to change then to change that habituation takes an enormous amount of energy an enormous amount of awareness why is this operating system this program useful because I look at everything that I the way that I do and from doing this podcast and speaking to experts I've stopped thinking that my body is against me and I've stopped realize I've started to realize that there's a reason
for these things there's a reason for the habits and patterns and so why is this useful because it seems to be working against me in so many ways well um first of all um when we when we look closely at certain habits whether you um can ride a bicycle whether you can speak a language whether you can snowboard when you first learn any of those things it takes an enormous amount of conscious awareness to get your body to do what your mind is intending but if you keep doing it over and over again then the
body begins to economize it in some way and so we have a lot of things that we can do automatically or unconsciously or subconsciously that allows us to multitask to drive your car to talk on the phone to do several different things at the same time so a habit isn't a bad thing they can work for you or they can work against you the problem is is if you're as an example complaining and blaming and making excuses and feeling sorry for yourself and judging other people and you practice that and you get really good at
whatever you practice you practice that enough times that you're unconscious to the fact that you're doing it um the moment you become conscious that you want to change that you're going to be uncomfortable it's going to feel unfamiliar it's going to feel some degree of uncertainty you're leaving kind of familiar known territory and you're stepping into the unknown and so many people when they want to change a habit um they have to be willing to be uncomfortable to do it but habits can work for us there's a lot of great habits that you and I
both have that I would never want to change or would want to evolve in some way but then there's a lot of habits that don't serve us and and so a person really wants to set a vision of the future whatever that is and they just have to agree that in order to arrive at that Vision they have to change in order to get there someone said to me that there's a certain type of behavior pattern that we can't change they said when we get truma into the age of 10 things that happen at very
early age some of those things cannot be changed and then there's things that happen later in life that can be rewired and changed is that true are there some traumas Behavior patterns that just appear to be too stubborn and too resistant to change if you ask me that question just a few years ago I probably would have a different answer than I do today because if you look at a lot of the work uh that we're studying in terms of human change and human transformation um we've seen people with really difficult pasts really brutal pasts
that were abused and traumatized at a very early age and then repeated traumas that took place in people's lives and they had night terrors and uh they couldn't be in relationships they had social anxiety they had a lot of health conditions we've seen them completely change completely changed to be happy people again to to free themselves from the past and so I would never put a limitation on change because I just don't think you can really predict that I think many people that are learning how to change and they understand what they're doing and why
they're doing it and how it gets easier I think for the most part people can change all kinds of things and when they do change our research shows that their brain changes their heart rate changes their gene expression changes there's thousands of metabolites that are being released into their bloodstream that weren't there prior there's a host of different changes that take place biologically that kind of support the person's transformation is that a specific transformation that sticks in your mind as being the most as the clearest evidence that you should never write off someone's ability to
transform wow um I'm so pleased to tell you that my beliefs have been challenged just in the last two years in witnessing so many different changes in people's Health that I I never knew was even possible you know everything from stage four cancers that were in a very progressed state that metastasized to organs and tissues and bones in the body a complete reversal in uh in that health condition not once not twice not three times we've seen it many times uh we've seen people that were blind that have been deaf that that have ALS that
have Lupus that have MS that have Parkinson's disease that have spinal cord injuries that have strokes PTSD myasthenia gravis cystic fibrosis muscular dystrophy we had a woman that had her thyroid removed surgically removed and I know this is difficult even for me to accept and grew a new thyroid back you know we have the medical evidence for that so I don't know any longer what the limit is I think there's something really cool happening in the world when people believe in themselves and when you believe in yourself you have to believe in possibility When You
Believe in possibility you have to believe in yourself so when somebody has the opportunity and I think a story is uh and there's no there's everybody loves the story there's nothing better than historian when someone stands on the stage in front of 2000 people and talks about their journey to heal themselves from a chronic health condition and they it's not um always pretty they lose things they lose family they sometimes lose their careers or get sick before they get better and you see this person's persistence and you see that they were not doing the work
their inward work to heal they were doing the work to change and if they understood if they truly changed that their biology should change and they were uncompromising every day in showing up for themselves and staying conscious of their unconscious self and and then reprogram themselves in some way and they tell that story it's the four minute mile it's somebody breaking through a level of Consciousness or unconsciousness in the collective that's observing the example of Truth they're actually relating with that person in a way that causes them to examine possibility differently and when you become
conscious of a new possibility a change in Consciousness is a change in Awareness right so now it's in the collective and lo and behold it's not uncommon we just had this happen in our week-long event in Denver just a little over a week ago two weeks ago and we had six people stand up out of a wheelchair at by the end of the event now I wasn't expecting that but one uh person that had Ms in the middle of the week had a very profound experience very profound experience and a professional athlete NFL football player
and um stood up and you stood up for the audience and when he stood up he said I thought I was going to a yoga retreat I thought my brother was taking me to a yoga she had no idea what we were doing here and then he said I just I just never loved myself and it was his act of change that somehow changed his health condition he's not somehow up regulated genes in different ways suppressed the genes for Ms and somehow he was more mobile he was walking by the end of the event and
he was the magic number one and when everybody saw that and the crowd the audience was excited we started seeing other people have a similar experience now that possibility is becoming more of a reality for people so I always I never limit what could actually happen but I can tell you that what an amazing time right now uh to witness people really uh doing the uncommon when you recite to that story I could see the emotion in your face as you say it and I can only imagine with the information that you have and the
beliefs you have about healing change transformation the sense of urgency you must carry and the sense of like responsibility almost I guess you must carry knowing what's possible yeah well um um it I I do feel responsible for always keeping the information based in science and as pure as possible I feel it's really important to do the research that we're doing I mean we've we've studied so much from a scientific standpoint the process of change in the process of transformation and what meditation actually can do for a person in terms of their biology and and
some of the changes that we're seeing just in seven days my responsibility really is to give people my greatest understanding of the truth and numerous opportunities to experience it nothing more you know there's a way to inspire people into possibility and so they we combine different models of science whether it's quantum physics or Neuroscience or neuroendocrinology or psychoneuroimmunology the mind-body connection epigenetics electromagnetism all of these Sciences allow people to understand themselves better and if knowledge is power knowledge about yourself is self-empowerment you can Empower people to do something with it so the more you understand
what you're doing in the process of change the more you understand why you're doing it as I said the how gets easier so we now know that if you give people sound scientific information and that is the Contemporary language of mysticism and they can learn that information they're basically making new circuits in their brain that's what learning is learning is forging new synaptic connections but if you don't review what you learn if you don't repeat it it's so much easier to freak out at than three members so you got to repeat it over and over
again so we allow people in our workshops to then begin to turn and teach it back to somebody they have to really explain it if they can't explain it it's not wired in their brain and they're gonna Something's Gonna Be left the conjecture to Superstition to Dogma to spirituality and and that's something that's not the result we want we want them to use science as that model and if they can explain that model and remind themselves what they've learned reproduce the same level of Mind nerve cells that fire together wire together so they begin to
install the neurological Hardware in their brain by teaching others yeah exactly so that they are prepared for an experience so then if that information is installed in their brain that philosophy that theory uh that knowledge and information and now they can remember it and they have that model of understanding and they understand what they're doing and why they're doing it if we can set up the conditions in the environment and give them the proper instruction if they can get their behaviors to match their intentions they get their actions equal to their thoughts if they can
get their mind and body working together they're going to have a new experience now experience enriches circuitry and the brightness what experiences does the moment those neurons begin to string into place though another part of the brain makes a chemical and that chemical is called a feeling or an emotion and the moment you feel unlimited the moment you feel grateful the moment you feel empowered the moment you feel whole now you're teaching your body chemically to understand what your mind has intellectually understood the information is just not in the brain now the information now is
literally in the body and now you're embodying the truth of that knowledge of that philosophy of that theory so then you're teaching your body and instructing your body chemically to understand what your mind is intellectually understood okay so then that information that's coming as a new experience is changing your biology in some way and we've actually shown this so then if you've done it once then it means you should be able to do it again and the idea is to be able to repeat an experience and if you can repeat it over and over again
both neurologically and chemically neurochemically you can condition your mind and body to begin to work as one and when you can do it so many times that your body now knows how to do it better than your conscious mind it's innate in you so I want to map out this process so that I make sure I understand it starts with the neurology which I I heard is uh a thought which you then ingrain in your mind by teaching it to someone else is that accurate well first thing you have to do is you got to
give people information yeah and science is probably the closest to the truth in terms of information and so when your brain is exposed to information and you're present and you're paying attention that neurons begin to connect that's what learning is learning is forging new synaptic connections the Nobel Prize research candel in the year 2000 his the researchers said that if you learned one bit of information and you paid attention that information for about an hour he would double the number of Connections in your brain as a result of your interaction with that information but if
you don't review it if you don't repeat it if you don't think about it the circuits prune apart right so if learning is making new synaptic connections and remembering is maintaining and sustaining them so it's so much easier to forget this information than to remember it so you learn it once I got a person's head nodding then they turned the person next and they only try this out let me try this out and see if I can repeat it and so between the two of them they exchange that information and they start to build a
model of understanding I understand I got that okay then we advance the informational but more and they they're adding new Stitches into the three-dimensional tapestry of their gray matter and they have to remind themselves what they've learned reproduce that same level of Mind mind is the brain in action as you install those neurological circuits in your brain then now you're prepared it's the Forerunner to the experience you're prepared for the experience so give the proper instruction get your body involved get involved in the process the experience then causes circuits to become more enriched that's what
experience does and then it makes a chemical and a chemical is called a feeling or an emotion and the stronger the emotion you feel from the experience the more you remember it and what is that experience abundance Health wholeness a mystical experience success a new relationship a new career um a new life whatever the person's whatever whatever that Vision that person wants to arrive at in the future and to actually go from the thought of that Vision to the actual experience of it and the distance between that thought and that experience is called time so
if we can teach people to shorten the distance between the thought of what they want and the experience of having it then they start believing more that they're the creator of their life what would you say to somebody that doesn't think thoughts matter that much I would say 95 of the World Plus or maybe more 99 of the World Plus sees thoughts as something that we are you know it's my head talking it's me talking in my head and as long as I don't act on those thoughts they're inconsequential I would I would say then
that's the truth is it the truth I don't know but for me my thoughts do matter I think every thought that you have makes a chemical and you can have thoughts that make you feel good and thoughts that make you feel bad and and I think that if 90 percent of the thoughts that we think are the same thoughts as the day before the same thoughts lead to the same choices the same choices lead to the same behaviors the same behaviors will create the same experiences and the same experiences produce the very same emotions and
those same emotions influence a person's very same thoughts and their biology their neuroscircuitry their neurochemistry their hormones and even their gene expression stays the same because they're staying the same there's nothing wrong with that but I do think that if you think differently and you learn new information and you have new thoughts if you can make new choices and demonstrate new behaviors and create new experiences and arrive at new goals and feel new emotions I would say that's evolution and I think that people really really secretly believe in themselves on some level and and I
think being defined by a vision of the future or really always always dreaming of another great experience I think is a great reason to wake up in the morning I've had lots of conversations with very smart people on this podcast from multiple disciplines you know psychiatrists psychologists athletes Health practitioners and they've given me such great advice on which is irrefutable scientific advice from so many areas of my life and for some reason there's still areas of my life that I still can't act upon that advice and I think probably for most of my listeners who've
heard great advice on this podcast and they think yes that's who I want to be I have an intention to stop eating sugar at 1am at night or I have an intention to become organized or to be this kind of friend or partner they have the information right what there's something stood in the way of me doing something about that information on a regular basis yeah well I can give you a few answers for that unfortunately it normally takes crisis trauma disease diagnosis betrayal loss a person has to reach that lowest denominator where nothing's making
that feeling go away has to well not they don't have to but this is human this is The Human Condition this is the moment where they don't feel like returning the texts they don't feel like going to dinner and seeing the same people they don't feel like um watching the same television show any longer the sports car the Wardrobe the none of that is making this feeling go away this is a moment of Reckoning for the soul and this is really when you could actually see yourself Through The Eyes of someone else because you don't
feel like yourself anymore and that's the moment where people begin to change they can see how they've been thinking they can notice how they've been acting they could pay attention or become aware of how they've been feeling for the last 20 years and that that idea in in Neuroscience is called metacognition that's the moment you're no longer the program now what we believe and what we've seen and what I think is much better approach is um being defined by a vision of the future and if you understood that you could actually elevate your state without
anyone or anything every single day and hold whatever that intention of your future is and it takes a coherent brain to do that and feel the emotion of your future before it happens that is you know you can't wait for your wealth to feel success you can't or abundance you can't wait for your new relationship to feel love you can't wait for the mystical experience to feel all or your healing to feel whole or grateful that's kind of the old model of reality of cause and effect waiting for something out there to change to take
away this emptiness this lack that I feel in here if you teach people then they could Elevate their state and we teach that model through meditation and they can combine that clear intention with an elevated emotion and teach them how to make that heart of theirs more coherent if they do that properly then they'll live their life feeling like their future has already happened now from that elevated State instead of that self-limited state they can become as conscious of that unconscious self as they could if they were at that limited State and and being defined
by that vision of the future getting up every day inspired by it and not letting any person any circumstance anything in our life remove us from that Vision that would be a day well lived so then most people then they have that vision of the future but they give up on that Vision because in order for them to arrive at that Vision they have to do something they have to think differently they have to act differently they have to feel differently and it's so much easier to make the same Choice every single day and the
hardest part about change is not making the same Choice as you did the day before and the moment you decide to make a different Choice you're going to feel uncomfortable because you're stepping from the known into the unknown so some people rather cling to their self-pity then take a chance and possibility they'd rather tell the story of their past instead of telling the story of their future they'd rather believe in their past instead of believe in their future it's so much more important though to romance your future instead of romance your past and I think
if people understood that they could actually arrive at it I think many people have done this already in their life I think everybody at least once in their life has done something great and when they did something great they just made up their mind and they made a decision in that moment to do something or to change with such firm intention but the amplitude of energy in making that choice caused their body to respond to their mind that the choice that they were making to change became a moment in time that they would never forget
and the stronger the emotion they felt in order to change the more they remembered the choice and we could say then that they're giving their body a taste of the future emotionally and they're literally aligning to that destiny we discovered that if you keep doing that every day somehow you'll arrive at that Destiny in your biology will literally begin to change to look like you're living in a different life what are some of the biggest myths relating to behavior change and I guess character and personality change um that hold people back I'll probably belief I
think and so many ways that a belief is a unconscious process a belief is a thought you keep thinking over and over again until it's hardwired in your brain and most beliefs are based on past experiences and so many people have a belief about something that has to change in order for them to arrive at a new place in their life and what we discovered a lot of times with people in this work is that they they when they say for example they were healing themselves of a health condition sometimes they would do their meditations
three times in one day and I asked them why three times and they said because I stopped believing and when I caught myself no longer believing in it I had to sit down and change my belief again in other words they had to get up believing more in their future instead of believing Less in it and they have to change their state of being to do that so I think that that's a limitation I also think that unconsciously we're always waiting for something out there in our life to change so that we can change or
feel the relief of the lack of what we don't have and I do think that's kind of a limited model of reality I think when you start changing inside of you and you start seeing the changes happening outside of you you go from being a victim in your life to being a creator of your life and and I think that when that occurs then all of a sudden it's no longer a have to it's something that you want to do you don't you actually don't want the magic to end in your life so now you
become a work in progress by investing in yourself when you invest in yourself you invest in your future so there's probably a chronic disbelief that many of us have that we're not creators of our life and the only one we get the parking space or something good happens to us do we believe that we're the creator of our life but imagine a world where everybody actually took responsibility in being the creator of their life and no longer the victim of their life I think we would see a dramatic shift in Consciousness that makes people feel
uncomfortable this idea of personal responsibility it's quite a it's almost become quite a controversial controversial idea the idea that we are the creator of Our Lives because then I have to accept responsibility for all the bad things that happened Dave dumped me I got fired from work uh someone bumped into my car and it hurt my neck well maybe maybe that happened by default maybe that happened by not creating maybe you were just left to the randomness of reality that that maybe you're not creating and the fact that you're not creating your your left to
the effects of your environment actually controlling you controlling your feelings and thoughts and by creating what you mean by creating isn't well well it's being intentional if you woke up every morning and you truly made time to think like this okay if my personality creates my personal reality and my personality is made of how I think how I act and how I feel if I want to create a new personal reality a new life I'm going to have to change my personality and most people try to create a new reality a new personal reality as
the same personality and it doesn't work we literally have to become someone else so if you said okay let me not default and go unconscious to that 95 percent of who I am that's programmed let me become so conscious of the way I think and become so aware of how I'm going to act today let me decide what emotions keep me connected to my past and bring me to a lower level a lower level of energy let me not go unconscious and then if you said okay the belief is just a thought I keep thinking
over and over again what thoughts do I want to fire and wire in my brain and with attention and with intention to begin to familiarize yourself with a new way of thinking meditation means to become familiar with if you keep firing and wiring those circuits you're going to begin to install the hardware repeated enough times and it becomes a software program that could be the new voice in your head that says I can it is possible if you said okay when did I fall from grace yesterday when did I when did I lose it oh
my gosh it was with at work with my co-workers with my ex with my enemy with the news with traffic acting this way is not going to make me happy if I had another opportunity another opportunity how would I do it if you could close your eyes and rehearse in your mind mentally how you're going to behave in certain situations I'll give you a specific one anyone so I'll give you the specific one where late at night on occasion I've eaten things that I really regret eating also another one that I'm trying to work hard
on is I can be very messy with when I travel so my my hotel room can look like a mess and I don't like that about myself and I don't know why I do it but it's almost like you talk about being unconscious I'm clearly not thinking about it but that's part of the problem and it's the same with the bloody sugar at midnight eating ordering things that are and then feeling instant guilt 10 seconds after I've put it in my mouth well it may be that on some level well you could actually be addicted
to the guilt not to the sugar and so you you return to the same emotional state that allows that action to reoccur so if you said let me decide how I am going to act what I'm not going to do and you rehearsed it the research on mental rehearsal says your brain will look like you already did it that you'll be so present the brain won't know the difference between what you're imagining and what is real the brain will begin to change to look like the experience has already happened now you're priming your brain for
that behavior keep rehearsing it rehearsing at house I can well mentally mentally rehearsing mental rehearsal is one of these great ideas in Neuroscience where you can actually install circuits in your brain right so everybody has done this musicians do it they're playing a song in their mind all the time athletes do it they're always going over their moves dancers do it actors do it so many people rehearse mentally what they're about to do and when they do that they actually Prime their brain they actually can change their brain and change their body just by thought
alone physiologically changing physiologically changed you can take a group of people that never played the piano before and divide them into two different groups and do functional brain scans on both groups one group they'll come for two hours a day for five days and they'll practice these one-handed scales and chords now you learn something new you make new Connections in your brain you get some instruction you get your body involved when you get your own body involved you're going to have an experience you pay attention to what you're doing and you repeat it over and
over again nerve cells that fire together wire together you're going to begin to install new circuits in the opposite side of your brain that's that's common you do the scan at the end you see those actual physical changes you take those people the other group and you ask them to close their eyes without lifting a finger have the mental rehearse those scales and cores and at the end of five days they grow the same amount of circuits in their brain as the people who actually physically demonstrated the act in other words they were so present
with what they were doing the brain did not know the difference between the real life experience and what they were Imagining the brain was physically changing to look like they already experienced it they already did it so now you take those people never played the piano before they've just been mentally rehearsing for two hours a day for five days you set them in front of a piano and they could actually play those scales and chords why because they primed their brain for that behavior so then if you're gonna prime your brain for a new Behavior
whether you're the CEO of a company whether you're a parent whether you're learning something the more you rehearse it mentally the more you prime your brain and body for the act so you could actually practice rehearsing how you're going to change in your life and if you keep doing it enough times your behaviors will match your intentions automatically because you have the Mind installed to do it if you don't have the Mind installed to do it you'll go back to the same past Behavior so I play through that scenario of making the decision differently exactly
and rehearse it in your mind until it feels right until you feel like I could actually do that and go from start to finish without losing your attention and so that it gets easier each time you do it it makes sense then you're you'll you'll actually do it and then if you said okay enough of this guilt I've I've felt enough of it I don't like feeling that way I could actually break the conditioning of that emotion in my body can I condition my body can I teach my body to feel something differently what would
be the feeling that I want to feel if I was able to do it would it be worth would it be self-love would it be Freedom would it be Joy let me teach my body emotionally what a future could actually feel like before it happens if you keep doing it over and over again you're going to start making more of those chemicals and it's become easier for you to do it it's going to become familiar to you and that's exactly what meditation is to become familiar with an old self to know thyself become so conscious
of that unconscious self that you don't go unconscious to that self and how many times do we have to forget until we stop forgetting and start remembering that's the moment of change what thoughts do I want to fire and wire in my brain let me become familiar with those what behaviors do I want to demonstrate what would greatness do what would love do and actually rehearse a greater a greater way rehearse it enough times so that you could actually step into that footprint teach your body emotionally that there's another way to feel and do it
over and over again it'll become familiar to you and so the model of change is unlearning and relearning breaking the habit of the old self and Reinventing a new self it's pruning synaptic connections and sprouting new connections it's unfiring and unwiring re-firing and rewiring deprogramming and reprogramming losing your mind and creating a new one unmerizing emotions that have been stored in the body and then reconditioning the body to a new mind to a new emotion turns out if you teach people how to do that in seven days you can see very profound biological changes if
they immerse themselves into the experience and what do these biological changes look like well so we run week-long events around the world and I think it's so important to do events in person with community because it's a flock it's a herd it's a school it's a collective and so that exact process in seven days so we take people through a very immersive experience and we do functional brain scans or fmris or quantitative eegs before they start the event and then we at the end of seven days we look at their brains at the end of
seven days and there are dramatic changes in the way their brain works very significant changes some of them are really outstanding changes we put teach people how to create more hard coherence when you feel anger when you feel frustration when you feel impatience when you feel resentment your heart beats out of order when you feel gratitude when you have kindness and care You Feel Love For Life your heart beats in a more orderly fashion you can actually train somebody to get good at feeling that way and we we use that and we see people at
the end of seven days be able to regulate their heart much better and it's a function of really how soon or how slow we age we take blood and we measure 2882 different metabolites in in a person's blood and at the end of seven days we measure again and I can tell you that if you're a novice meditator really never meditated before kind of your first event and you go through that seven day process at the end of seven days there are so many biological changes that are taking place in the collective in the community
not just one not just two the majority of people and I mean a significant majority of people suggesting that their body literally is living in a new environment in a new life and there are chemicals in their bloodstream in terms of information it wasn't there prior to the event in other words some way without taking any drug without any taking an exogenous substance without changing their diet without changing their lifestyle in any other way except going through this process eating the same foods that they typically eat that at the end of seven days there's chemistry
there's biology that suggests that somehow their biology is changing significantly we measure gene expression I can tell you that you can change your gene expression in seven days we measure the microbiome and once again seven days there are dramatic changes in the microbiome and the mind somehow is making significant and effective changes in our in our body so our research is pretty outstanding because um a seven day intervention that's producing these effects there's there's not a whole lot of drugs that that are as effective and we've discovered that the nervous system makes a pharmacy of
chemicals right now that works better than any drug that's what we've discovered and it's all within you foreign I am a fixer in my friendship groups and what I mean by that is I'm someone who probably over involves in themselves in trying to help friends change stuff which is a gift in a curse often times occurs but um I often get because I love someone and they're close to me and I want the best for them when when I see that they are experiencing a recurring pattern of behavior or habit um that is causing them
unhappiness loneliness to miss the goals they have in their life of becoming a you know a husband or a wife or a partner or whatever it might be I have a growing sense of um frustration because and I and that sometimes exerts it it's that sometimes manifests itself is trying to you know fix and help and give advice and change them you must experience that in a different way you're much smarter than me you must experience that in a different way when you meet people that you can see her having these recurring patterns of behavior
and when you see that in them has there any has there any ever been frustration on your part have you ever been frustrated that change hasn't happened in someone that you loved you know I think it's I think it's such a noble act to change and I and I understand how hard it is to change I understand that process so I think the greatest thing that I could ever do for someone is to show them what change looks like it's so much more profound than anything that I could ever say um and I would never
offer my opinion to them I would love them unconditionally because I maybe see a part of myself that I've changed and I understand how hard it is to change or or I understand that they'll they're going to have their moment when they're ready that's a change and so I think it's I think it's really interesting because what I've learned over the years is that no new information can enter the nervous system that's not equal to the person's emotional state you can give them the answer the right answer to the problem and they won't hear it
because it's not relevant equal to the emotion that they're experiencing what we've learned is a if you think people in you just say seven days just cross the river of change go from the old self to the new self immerse yourself fully into it break free from the chains of those emotions that keep you anchored to the Past overcome those habits and behaviors that keep you programmed into a predictable future overcome um all those aspects of your beliefs that keep you stuck in a certain state in terms of how you're thinking in those hardwired perceptions
seven days break free and and normally the person has the answer to their own question I think that's when it becomes really relevant when you have your own Insight your own Epiphany when it's your own truth because you've you've worked to get Beyond it people when they analyze themselves or analyze their life within some disturbing emotion when we looked at the real-time brain scans we saw that they were actually making the brain worse we're driving their brain further out of balance overthinking over analyzing uh and so when you analyze something within an emotion an emotion
is a is a record of the past so you're thinking in the past the solution could never be there free the person from that emotion and of course they they see they they see it from a greater level of consciousness for all those people listening right now that are like me that try and fix because of through I mean through what they think of as love I may maybe be I'm doing it for other reasons but what what could they do to be a better ally or friend or partner to that individual but based on
everything you've said that maybe they need their own moment or you know their emotional system isn't in regulation with their information God anytime we we don't do anybody a great service is to help them out of their emotional state I mean it's not a lecture that's going to help them come on let's go do something come on let's go just get them doing something just breaking themselves out of that state it's not like the answer it's they they have to change their state to get the answer so if I were to do anything I would
want to help them shorten their emotional reaction to get them get beyond the emotion whatever that is and I wouldn't be a lecturer would be something fun that we did or something unusual that we did or just trying something just let's just do something and I think I think showing people what what what love looks like show them what Joy looks like show them what happiness looks like I think I think people notice that I think I think they pay attention to that it gives them permission to do the same so um maybe just show
up as the person you would want to be around if you were feeling that way when you look at the state of the world at the moment and the direction of travel the trajectory of you know technology and the way we're living our lives and the decisions we're making at a collective level what are the things that most concern you well I always ask myself is it getting better is it getting worse you know and I I think um in my lifetime I don't think I've ever experienced the world as it is today just with
so many variations of so many things and I question the information that I'm receiving and I think that we need some type of intervention as a species we need we we need a change we need an intervention in some way question the information you're receiving from where and what kind of Infamous intervention are you suggesting I just don't know the information that I that I am exposed to or information that people are exposed to is the truth I just questioned that these days and and because you can you get so many you get so many
degrees of it and so many uh and I and I don't know if it's based in altruism you know for the for the goodness of human beings or or for self-interests and I and I think that's a I think people are waking up more to the understanding that something has to change you know for us to really survive as a species and what are the symptoms of the cultural disease that you're talking about what are they a lack of connection uh you know you know we're in 3D reality you know connecting communing cooperating uh creating
I think those are things that um I think if you keep people in survival and you keep them in fear and you keep them at War and you keep them angry and you keep them in pain and you keep them confused and you can control their attention um by controlling their emotions um I think I think um we're gonna you know we may not make it you know as as a species but I think that when people Truly Come Together in in in an elevated State I think it's Collective networks of observers that determine reality
and I don't think it's the number of people I think it's the most coherent in heart and brain that begin to produce effects so the coming of a new Consciousness has to be a collective it's not one person it's a collective group of people and and I believe that you get enough people collectively coming together that we can hopefully uh steer it in a different direction hopefully yeah how about you are you optimistic I am I'm optimistic because I think people by Nature are good I think there's goodness in human beings and I have the
privilege of traveling around the world and I see that and it transcends countries and cultures and races and gender transcends diet it transcends all that stuff uh it's just when people are happy with themselves and in love with life um I think I think their natural tendency is to give and I think we're wired to do that when we're not in survival when we're not in survival when you use this word survival are you talking about the the fight or flight state that we um many of us live in yeah I would say I would
say that living in stress is living in survival and stress is when your brain body are knocked out of homeostasis stress is when your brain and body are knocked out of balance the stress response is what the body innately does to return itself back to balance the problem is is that if you keep turning on that fight-or-flight system you keep turning on that emergency system you'll actually cause people to stay out of balance and that imbalance becomes the new balance and they're headed for some type of disease some type of breakdown no organism can tolerate
emergency mode for an extended period of time and when you're in survival and that primitive system is switched on it's really about the self when you're in survival you have to take care of yourself so um the emotions of anger and hostility and aggression and competition and frustration and resentment and envy and jealousy and insecurity and fear and anxiety and hopelessness and powerlessness and depression and pain and suffering guilt and shame are all derived from the hormones of stress and psychology calls them normal human States Of Consciousness those are Altered States Of Consciousness and when
we're in that state when we're living in survival we experience separation we we divide in in a lot of ways and so there's biology that goes along with that and the hormones of stress heighten the senses and cause us to become materialists and and now when we're in lack or separation we force outcomes we control outcomes we fight for outcomes we compete for outcomes we manipulate outcomes in a lot of ways we we turn into a more of a primitive self so hard um to change that especially when you don't have enough money or you
just lost your job or you just ended a relationship or your best friend past it's really hard to move Beyond those emotional states and so I think that that teaching people um how to change those emotional states and move out of those are really important and um 75 to 90 percent of every person that goes to a health care facility in the Western World goes in because of psychological or emotional stress that's eight or nine out of ten and emotional stress and psychological stress are the ones that tend to be the most harmful because if
it's not T-Rex that's chasing you but it's your co-worker in the next cubicle what was once very adaptive becomes very maladaptive and and the rush of those adrenal hormones become kind of addictive to people and they use the problems they use the conditions in their life to reaffirm their addiction to that emotion they need their enemy to feel hatred and and if their enemy died they'd they'd still feel hatred or they'd find another one they need the bad relationship they need the bad job in order to feel and that's why it's hard to change and
people become addicted to the life they don't even like and so if you can turn on the stress response just by thought Alone by thinking about your problems then that's the truth you can become addicted to your own thoughts and if the long-term effects of the hormones of stress push the genetic buttons that create disease your thoughts could make you sick and then the question is if your thoughts could make you sick and your thoughts make you well and we're actually discovering that that's absolutely possible so then teaching people then a little bit about how
to manage their emotional state and to self-regulate I think is a great gift for people because when they begin to break an addiction to any emotion or the conditioning of any emotion there's going to be Cravings that go on just like uh just like any addict there you know and and you've many people overdose and many people have bad trips and and so when they start changing and the body's craving uh those familiar emotions the body starts signaling the brain you know of memories or to think certain ways and to make certain choices do certain
things crave certain experiences just to feel that same emotion and people say well this feels right I know that feels familiar that really feels familiar and and many people will tell the story of why they feel that way based on some past experience and it's usually not in the recent past it's usually many years ago like a toxic relationship or whatever that is and so they're basically saying I had an event in my life and since that event I'm still living by the same emotion and I haven't been able to change and they'll tell the
story of that past in in Psychology the latest research on memory shows that 50 of that story isn't even the truth they're they're they're making it up because they don't have the same brainless they had then and so then people people are reliving a miserable life they never even had just to excuse themselves from changing and they embellish the stories so that it sounds really hard to change so what is it what is that point then for a person when they say the only person that this emotion of hatred or anger or frustration or resentment
the only person that this is hurting is me because those those chemicals are down regulating genes and creating disease and a person finally really realizes that and they really decide to change when they overcome the emotion the memory without the emotion is called wisdom and that's the name of the game in three-dimensional reality now they're ready for a new experience it's not it's not reliving the past you don't need to you don't need to talk about all you need to do is overcome the emotion when you overcome the emotion you're free from the past you
can see it from a greater level of Consciousness and that's when a person so many times and when they truly change they'll say this we've seen it over and over again they reached that point where they finally break through and they and some of them have had some really difficult past they'll say I would not want to change one thing in my past because it brought me to this moment that's the moment to pass no longer exists and they can look at their betrayers and see where it all had to happen for that moment and
now they're they're free they they no longer belong to the past they belong to the Future I've never heard the concept or idea of being addicted to a negative emotion people talk to me about being addicted to dopamine and pleasure and you know and all those things in you know like masturbation and sugar and but the thought of being addicted to a negative emotion is what you said to me earlier about the guilt well think about this what do people do when they when they feel an emotion what do they do they rely on something
outside of them to make that emotion go away so whether it's the masturbation or the pornography or the gambling or the shopping or the sugar or the whatever it's all because they're trying to make that feeling go away and they're using something outside of them so then there is some emotion that the person is regulating that's why they're doing that they're doing that right so so change the emotional state and it makes sense then the need to do it diminishes which is not doesn't seem to be very easy to do change my emotional state well
again I think um if you if you understood what you were doing and why you were doing it just like learning anything if you if you understood a formula I think it wouldn't be as hard as you think it is I mean because there is a way to change and step one in that process of change is new information always it's the Forerunner to any experience without the information we doubt that it's possible and again that the information in the science removes the doubt I was doing some research recently about um why people change their
beliefs and why they don't change their beliefs and some beliefs they're more susceptible to take on some information they're more they're susceptible to take on one of the things I read about was when they believed the source another thing I read about was when they when it's good news so in studies where they say to someone you're more attractive according to the public than you believed they're likely to shift rather than finding out they're less attractive and also things like Health you're more healthy than you thought you were genetically they're more likely to shift a
belief the nature of our beliefs and the nature of belief change um I I was writing in in my book about how um looking in the mirror and telling yourself something you like some of the sort of modern day manifestation Community believe doesn't seem to work just looking in the mirror and telling myself that I'm beautiful and Rich and successful and Powerful doesn't seem to be an effective way to cause actual belief change do you agree or disagree with this idea that you can look in the mirror and say something to yourself when when we
study belief and the change in belief I'll answer it on two levels Stephen the first level is that in order for a person to change a belief or perception about themselves in their life the majority of those people made a decision with such firm intention that the amplitude of that decision carried a level of energy that was greater than the hardwired programs in the brain and the emotional conditioning their body as I said earlier their body literally responded to their mind the choice that they were making became a moment in time they would never forget
they'll tell you where they were what time of day it was who they were with when they made up their mind to change it became a long-term memory and the stronger the emotion we feel the more altered we are inside of us the more we remember that choice that's why we need pain sometimes that's when you said when you painted yourself into a corner and you said this is it I don't care how I feel body I don't care how long it takes time I don't care what people think I don't care what's going on
in my life environment I'm gonna do this and you made up your mind the moment you felt that emotion you were aligning to a new future and to change is to be greater than your body to be greater than your environment and to be greater than time and so when a person comes out of the resting state because your body is trillions of cells 70 trillion cells and they're all spying on your brain and if you were sitting there and and you said nine out of ten times I'm gonna fake standing up one time I'm
actually going to stand up before you ever made that conscious decision your body is so precognitive it already knows when you're going to stand up because it's got to release a certain amount of adrenaline so the same volume of your blood goes to your brain so if you're sitting on the couch with the remote control and you got your cell phone here and your iPad here and your computer here and your dog here and your beer here and the big TV there and you're eating your popcorn and and you say you know I I think
um I'm gonna change tomorrow what do you think your precognitive body is going to say relax he's lying again he's not he's not willing to he's not willing to Signal the body it's time to ride you know it's not there's no signal to the body and so making that choice to change your state of being with a clear intention and elevated emotion actually changes your state to believe in that future more than you believe in your past keep it up keep doing it that's a big explosion in the field that's important that's a change in
energy and nobody changes until they change their energy and when they change their energy they change their life so then you make up your mind to do that and all of a sudden you have that synchronicity you have that Serendipity you have that coincidence and all of a sudden you're saying hey that worked something I did inside of me produced an effect outside of me I'm going to pay attention to what I did I'm gonna do it again let's try it again let's the experiment continue you do it again and then you say Well when
did I stop disbelieving oh my God I will stop disbelieving when I ran into that person we had that conversation and oh my God I I returned back to my old belief again okay next time that happens I'm gonna this is what I'll do you rehearse it in so your evolution in your belief in self it changes as well so then so many people second point will actually say this you know I read the philosophy I understand the knowledge I understand what it means to change I understand the power of meditation I saw the testimonials
I saw people heal I believe it's the truth I just didn't believe it could work for me this is a big moment this is a moment where you step out of the bleachers and you got to get on the playing field that's the person who says if this works and I believe it it works I gotta prove it to myself I gotta actually I gotta actually prove it to myself that I believe that it could work for me and some of them show up every day for a year and never miss their work never miss
their meditation a whole year and changing from the old self to the new self they were doing their meditations to change not to heal they were doing their meditations to change them when they changed they healed they did their meditation sometimes three times a day because they stopped believing they start disbelieving and they were like I defaulted why because I'm feeling the emotion of my past some stray thought some response to someone or something caused me to feel and I forgot I'm back to the emotion that's familiar and I can't believe in that future I'm
believing in my past let me sit down and change my state of being again and get up believing in my future again and sometimes they had to do it three times in one day and when they understood that's the environment that signals the gene that's epigenetics and the end product of an experience in the environment is an emotion and it is you could actually signal genes ahead of the environment by changing your emotional state they were doing it with that intention and when he was signed meaning to the ACT you get a greater outcome and
you turn on the prefrontal cortex and now your biology literally begins to change and we have data that suggests by just having the intention to make certain genes to make certain proteins or signal certain genes and make certain proteins just having the intention literally begins to cause the body to make those chemicals and what causes relapse in those moments because I've had multiple moments where I thought Behavior change had been established and I managed to conduct a new habit cycle and new Behavior favorable you know intended behavior for a period and then something happens in
my life almost subconsciously seamlessly seamlessly and I'm back yeah to all the old circuitry you went unconscious you weren't unconscious and normally it's unconscious to some thought or some response in your environment you see someone or you do something or you have some interaction in your outer world and the moment you have that interaction you caught it causes you to feel a certain way and you return back to us to the Past basically the emotion is the past and that the body is actually living in the past it's so objective it doesn't know the difference
doesn't know the difference between the real life experience that's creating that emotion and the emotion that person's living by every day it's believing it's in the same past experience again and it will behave in the past and it will think in the past subconsciously subconsciously seamlessly so I could for example if going to I don't know let's say France I had a traumatic experience in France when I was 10 years old let's just say and then I go to France when I'm 30 years old and I get back I just start eating junk food for
example and I don't know why I've like fallen out of my gym habit and I'm eating junk food that theoretically that could be my subconscious that um falling back into a is experiencing that survival without me knowing knowing it yes so so if to change is to be greater than your environment to be greater than your body and to be greater than time then your neocortex your thinking brain is a reflection of everything you know in your life it's an artifact of the past it's a record repository of everything you've learned and experienced to this
date and you have a neurological Network for everything known in your environment your parents your friends your car your computer every object every person everything you have a neurological Network for your identity as your body from your past your Ambitions and your future your brain is a reflection of everything that's known and because you've experienced all these elements in your environment there's an emotion associated with it so you have an emotion associated with certain people it's different emotions associated with other people different emotions associated with other objects and things and other places in time so
then there's so much research to show that when you put a person in the same environment and they see the same people and they go to the same places and they do the same things at their exact same time it's no longer their personalities creating their personal reality their personal reality is creating their personality their environment is controlling unconsciously or subconsciously the way they're thinking and the way they're feeling so when they see their co-worker when they see their friend when they see their parents they're seeing their parents their friends their co-workers in the neurological
Network as a memory of the past and because every one of those people has an emotion associated with it they start feeling the emotion that's connected to them and now their state of being then is returning back to the past so then to change then is to be greater than your environment to think act and feel differently in the same conditions in your life that's called change how does how would I do that wake from you know I walk in I see my parents mum dad dog house I grew up in is there something that
I do in that moment before that moment when I woke up that morning to make sure that I didn't slip off into the unconscious um memory and then for therefore get the sort of unconscious feelings about that experience well whatever it is that you want if it's if it's overreading I don't know I'm making stuff up if it's some emotional button that you have with your family and you don't want to feel that way yeah I would rehearse that if if I didn't want to have that if if you have a great if you're I
mean I go to when I would go to my parents home when I when I got older it was all most of the associations were so fond for me just being at home and being with my parents and remembering where I grew up it was always fun for me and and coming back and see how much I changed in coming back and seeing the life that I lived at one point you know one point in my timeline so if it's something that you truly want to change you're going to remind yourself how you're not going
to think you're going to you're going to remind yourself how you're not going to act you're going to remind yourself how you're not going to feel and you gotta remind yourself enough time so you don't forget because the moment you forget you go unconscious then you're gonna remind yourself how you are going to think you remind yourself what you're going to do and rehearse it in your mind and you're going to remind yourself what feeling you want to stay in the entire time so you don't default back to the old self if you practice that
I guarantee you you'll make some progress if you lose it nothing wrong tomorrow's another day another you got another chance and we just get really good at whatever we practice so then when you return back into your life and you say okay no person no place no thing No Object no circumstance no pain no craving is going to cause me to move from the state today I guarantee you if you're able to maintain that modified State of Mind and Body your entire day something unusual happen and will come in a way that you least expect
that surprises you and leaves no doubt that what you're doing inside of you is producing some effect outside of you and the moment you see the feedback in your environment as a result of your internal change you're going to pay attention and do it again and you're going to start believing God did I really create that did that really happen because of how I changed that's when the game really begins to become exciting practice I've been at it a long time I can tell practice yeah um people hear that they go Joe how long how
much practice you know are you talking about uh I've got I've got to do this for three four five years or you know and and that practice what does that look like practically for someone like me who hears everything you've just said and wants to make changes and cures of my life okay so there's two times when the door to the subconscious mind opens up when you wake up in the morning because your brain waves are going from Dell to the Theta to Alpha to Beta when you go to bed at night you go from
beta to Alpha Theta to Delta and you slip through that scale pretty quickly in the morning in the evening but your brain waves start to change during those times and and one of the features one of the important elements of meditation is to get beyond the analytical mind and what separates the conscious mind from the subconscious mind is the analytical mind so five percent as we said is our conscious mind 95 percent is programmed subconsciously and if you're going to try to change yourself with your conscious mind you're outside the operating system so then you
got to learn how to change your brain waves slow them down get beyond the analytical mind and enter the operating system where you can rewrite a program where you can make those changes and so learn how to do that practice learn how to do that and again it's not a big deal it's easy to learn and then once you can slow your brain waves down in your more suggestible to what you're thinking now you can reprogram you can't do with your conscious mind you can say I'm healthy I'm healthy I'm wealthy I'm wealthy I'm unlimited
I'm unlimited I'm happy I'm happy I'm whole on whole and your body's saying no you're not dude you're miserable you're unhappy that thought never makes it past the brain stem to reach the body right so it's important for us to in the morning or the evening instead of reaching for our cell phone as the first thing as a habit that we do in checking our texts and our WhatsApp and our Telegram and our social media and our Instagram and our Twitter and and Facebook whenever else people do their emails they get connected to everything known
in their life before you start that try this out as an experiment before you start your day instead of falling into that redundant habit you know go on autopilot just say okay if the change is to be greater than my body to be greater than my environment be greater than time and and the environment's so seductive and my body's craving certain emotions and it's programmed to get up and do things I'm going to sit my body down I'm gonna tame the animal here and when I'm ready to get up we're going to get up not
when it's tired or when it wants to go you could literally go Inward and forget about your outer world no longer think about anything out there if you could lose track of the familiar past or the predictable future and fall into the present moment and if you were sitting there in silence aware of nothing but you and you said okay what is the greatest expression of myself I can be today and do that exact process let me write down two thoughts that are not going to slip by my awareness unnoticed by me today two memories
whatever it is what are two behaviors I want to change today let me stay conscious of them and not go unconscious to them today even if it means how I speak what are two emotions that I live by every day that I can literally change I want to become conscious of what they feel like in my body I want to catch them the moment I start feeling them and review them over and over again enough times so I don't go unconscious okay now I'm conscious of my unconscious that 95 percent how do I want to
think how would greatness think today let me review it let me repeat let me remember how I am going to think let me remember how I am going to think me remember how I'm going to behave here how am I going to act here let me rehearse a change I want to make in a certain circumstance let me think about how I do want to feel today let me open my heart to life again let me feel kindness and care and love and gratitude and appreciation let me let me just bring up that feeling let
me feel it with my heart let me keep bringing it up so I can bring it up enough times I want to get so good at bringing up this feeling with my eyes closed I can do it with my eyes open you practice that and you not make a decision to not get up until you feel that emotion and ask yourself can I stay in the state my entire day and if you can't and you go unconscious ask yourself at the end of the day how'd I do where I go unconscious okay tomorrow morning new
day new lifetime let me go again let me try again and it's the practice it's the repetition that causes the change now here's the beauty behind this because all of a sudden when those synchronicities start to happen when the coincidences start to happen it's no longer a have to it's no longer oh geez I gotta go create my life it's not like that it's like the magic is happening you don't want it to end like you you realize that you are actually creating outcomes in your life and now you're not you're you're you're you're wanting
to do the work because you want the magic to continue in your life and that's kind of what I'm super proud of with our community we're doers you know we they do the work not because they have to because they love all the changes that happen in their life as a result of it whether it's a mystical experience a transcendental moment you know a great opportunity in their life they're like wow I I somehow had a hand in creating this and so the so the excitement of Life The Adventure of Life the unknown becomes the
becomes the quest I'm so so I've got to admit I'm one of those people that wakes up in the morning and then just gets dragged dragged off out of the bed by my phone the notifications and often to my day totally unconscious and there's been so many things that I reflect on in my life and go man I just really wanna I'll get home at the end of the day and I'll look at certain instances where I responded in certain ways and come and I hate that about myself I really want to change that and
it happens again the next day and I could come home I think man I hate that about myself and I really want to change that it happens the next day and it's been happening for two years [Laughter] when do you want to change that when you're ready to change that you will when you're when it becomes boring and it becomes predictable I don't want to have to wait for a crisis or you know because now that you know you can't not know yeah I know yeah now that you know you can't not know and on
some level you may have a belief that you think this is hard yeah I do yeah yeah because I've struggled with it yeah yeah and it's just like uh like you going learning snowboarding and never taking a lesson right it's gonna be like it's gonna be tenuous it's going to be challenging it's going to be difficult put your time and learn how to do it and it gets easier as you do it it's just like you just you just have to learn the formula there's a formula that we've discovered that it's actually enjoyable when you
do it right and you actually like it and people want to do more of it because it feels so good and I mean we see you look at the the HRV measurements with our community look at our brain scans these are people that they're not faking ecstasy they're not Faking It their brain is at such a level of arousal and the arousal is not pain the arousal is not fear the arousal is not aggression or anger the arousal is ecstasy the brain is going in this heightened state they're making a connection to something really big
and that feels really good and when they realize that they've hit something really big and it's not coming from anyone or anything outside of them they stopped looking for it out there and they realize it's been within them the whole time I think I think so many people want so many things in their life but what we really want is wholeness because when you have wholeness you can't want how could you want when you're whole you only want when you're in lack when there's brain and heart coherence there's a level of wholeness that takes place
where a person is no longer interested in separation or lack they feel like they have everything they want that's a great place to be in and we've discovered that the more relaxed you are in your heart more awake you are in your brain it's relaxed in the heart and awake in the brain and we teach that people actually can get good at doing that I really want to talk to you about this brain coherence and this heart coherence um I have to close off on that morning routine thing by asking you exactly what did you
do this morning oh this morning uh I was up probably around 4 30. yeah why because there's nobody that can bother me at that time there's no emails there's no text there's there's no there's my it's my time what time were you in bed um probably between 10 and 11 okay is that a not enough sleep for you huh well no that is I think I actually measured my sleep so I and I look at it every day that's part of the reason I'm dragging out of bed but yeah for me four in the morning
five in the morning is a really great time I just I I've just conditioned my body that way um that's the time and and I I spend a little time remembering what I'm doing what am I doing what are you doing in this meditation why are you doing this meditation what are you about to do I like to just get myself in my think box organizing what am I not going to think about what I'm going to stay away from what am I not going to do in my meditation let me review that what I
am what am I going to do let me get that all worked out then I get in my play box in my play box there's no thinking I've got all the thinking done in my think box my play box it's really about me changing my state and so um I allow for two hours every morning doesn't mean I always take it I'll need it let me say that but I allow for two hours sometimes I like to just get my mind straight and then I do the work I do the work and and I like
to get to that point where when I'm done I feel like something changed do the work yeah what does the work look like it's meditation yeah it's finding the present moment getting into the unknown it's getting Beyond Myself disconnecting from my body getting Beyond any thought of anyone or anything getting me on time moving beyond space and time turns out when you focus on nothing there are so many amazing things that happen to your brain I've seen the scans over and over again what have you seen in the scans well there's this thing in the
brain called modularity and when we're living uh by the hormones of stress and stress is when you can't predict something when you can't control something or you have the perception that something's going to get worse you switch on that fight-or-flight nervous system and the rush of those chemicals causes us to become alert to become aroused and we narrow our focus on the material world and so when you're not able to control everything in your life and you can't predict everything in your life you start shifting your attention to everyone and everything every person every object
every place and we've all had that experience when we're under stress and every one of those people those objects those things those places has the neurological Network in the brain so like a lightning storm in the clouds the brain begins to fire out of order very incoherently it becomes modulated or compartmentalized It's A house divided against itself and those individual compartments don't talk to the rest of the brain and we tend to get over focused you never notice when you're under stress you're obsessing about something you're over focusing about something you're overthinking something you're over
analyzing you're driving your brain higher and higher into higher states of arousal High beta brainwave patterns we discovered that if you teach a person to go from a narrow focus on something physical something material and broaden their focus open their awareness and put their attention on space on nothing and create what's called a Divergent Focus the act of sensing and no longer analyzing thinking begins to slow the brain waves down from that beta brainwave state to a low level beta and then all of a sudden to Alpha if they keep doing it sensing space tends
to cause those different compartments that were modulated divided to begin to synchronize and what sinks in the brain actually links in the brain so the brain starts firing in a more holistic state in other words every single area of the brain is resonating at the same frequency and now the brain is functioning as one neurological network instead of individuals and that kind of holism a kind of order feels really good it feels really good and so people practice slowing their brain waves down not only to get beyond the analytical mind but to cause the brain
to fire in a more coherent way and if we're going to have a clear intention about what we want the more coherent the brain the clearer the intention so we've seen in seven days even in four days these dramatic changes in the levels of coherence and order that take place in the brain the brain's firing in a more holistic State that's when the person notices a change in their anxiety and the depression and their PS PTSD whatever it is there's more order in the brain and and uh the act of focusing on nothing and opening
your awareness to space creates that kind of amazing change did you sign an intention this morning I did can you tell me what it is oh um I want to be relaxed and awake I want to be present with everything that I do I want to stay in my heart the entire day and I want to be inspired by you know the idea of helping people change you struggle I do yeah what you struggle with wow um I run a lot of different aspects of my company I have events side we have a product side
we have corporate Consulting we have 250 corporate trainers we have a vitamin company called biocentropy we work with remote coherence healers that actually are we do research and they're remotely changing People's Health we have a huge research team with University of California San Diego we have a lot of players on the team we have non-profits uh what else do we have we have an inner Health Coalition for Physicians and and doctors and Healthcare practitioners around the world that want to teach a different model so I have a lot of different things that I have my
hand in um and I think you know I'm creative by nature and I like to be creative and sometimes I have a lot of obligations in terms of making decisions for 2026 decisions about things that I need to do documentaries whatever it is and I think I struggle with not having wanting more time for being creative and that's kind of the fun part of my job whether I look at the data I see the research and then I go oh my God I want to do a meditation now I understand how to do this meditation
or teach this better all the information that we're gathering in our research is to teach transformation better that's why I want to close the gap between knowledge and experience so it's we have billions of data points and it's a lot of time to look through all that and to learn about it but if I would if I would choose to do something I would love to study the research more love to do more teacher create more meditations you know teach some more unique courses and so I think I I think one of my challenges really
is to is to be able to stay creative with everything I have going on in my life I think everyone that's a high achiever always wishes they could post time I think um we're we're at such a level of growth right now to just uh globally I mean our events sell out in 10 minutes you know five ten minutes in and we have a waiting list of uh sometimes 10 000 people that's a problem you know that's a and and I won't give up doing um Live Events you know and I think it's I won't
do it online I think it's there's something special that happens uh in community and so I've never met someone who is so Mission driven and doing so well in this department that also isn't paying a personal cost for the mission in some regard or capacity well I think I've learned a few things over the years about that I think one of the great things number one is I have an amazing team I mean I'm nothing without my team uh and their creatives and they're cool and they're emotionally intelligent and they they're not nine to fivers
they share the same Mission with me they they see the same vision they do it for the same reason somehow they're part of that that change in transformation um so my team um uh is able to allow me to do something really really unique and that is to focus on focus on what I love to do more than anything else so uh my team is a super super huge help for me so I I think that it's an important element the other thing that I work on I think every day of my life is uh
to be the example of everything that I teach I I mean that's important for me because uh I want to be I want to be in the game with everybody so when I see transformation when I see Miracles when I see healings when I see change when I see which poor people become rich whatever that is and I'm a part of that I think it's really it humbles me yeah it really makes me more humble in seeing what's possible for human beings and and so I never want this work to be about me I want
it to be about you I want it to be I want to celebrate your story uh you know I I want I want to I want to be there for that person when they open their eyes and we're blind than they're seeing for the first time I want to be right there I want to be there I want to remember that moment uh and then and her Joy um so for me I work on on being the example uh in every way that I can and and sometimes it requires um a lot you know extra
time to do that yeah what is what is the what is the um and then this is an interesting use of phrase because I'm saying the word cost is as as if it's a negative but I just I think everyone that's leading a mission whatever that might be and they're really dedicated to that mission the way that you are flying around the world continuing to do it in person where most people you know everyone knows you could just do it online and you'd probably make more money to be honest you know there's people that just
have moved online post pandemic you'll you're giving a level of dedication and personal investment into this mission that must well I assume it must come at a personal cost to some degree um you make sacrifices um you have to sacrifice uh relationships at time you know sometimes you can't be where you want to be um but I think that the people in my life that love me to understand my mission uh and and they respect that uh sometimes I'm on six different time zones in four weeks and and that's a lot for my body you
know but um God watching somebody on the stage just the other day tell the story of how she overcame tri-facial neuralgia in One Moment In the Event she wanted someone to chop her head off that's how much pain she had in her face for years one moment she said I have no pain that's the first time I've not had pain in years uh to me like that's worth all the lost luggage the missed flights the uh the jet lag that to me is worth more than all the gold in the world I mean I don't
know it's just it's so uncommon and yet something innating us wakes up something wakes up in us when we see that we we forgot we forgot and somehow we remember so um you asked my staff what is the greatest part of their job they'll tell you being a part of transformation being a part of it being a part of that so there is a cost um always uh uh and at the same time I really I really work on uh figuring out ways to do things better I mean I think that's one of the things
I love about myself is just learning learning from my experience learning from my past and the experience is the greatest professor and and just saying okay if I had another opportunity how could we do it differently how could we serve better you know how can we make it easier what can we do differently and and again I just have a great team that's super committed to whether they're running events whether they're creating logos whether they're doing a brand whether they're managing the website whatever they're you know running them composing music with me for meditations or
doing research we just have a really people that share that same Mission and and I think um changing individuals one by one to somehow make a change in the world and being a part of that's pretty cool was there a countless movement in your life that sent you more so in this direction um sure I mean I got run over by a truck and a triathlon in 1986 in Palm Springs California and um I broke six vertebrae in my spine and I had bone fragments on my spinal cord and I had the neural arch of
T8 compressing on the cord so the typical uh prognosis for that you know is is uh Harrington Rod Surgery they they put these long stainless steel rods in your spine so in my case it would be from the base of my neck to the base of my spine stabilize the entire spine and um I just had four opinions from four of the leading surgeons in Southern California and I was in my 20s and I just I just couldn't imagine myself living on you know addictive medications or not being able to do whatever I love to
do physically so I decided not to have the surgery I just went against the the opinions of the experts and I just thought maybe there's a way that my my mind could heal my body and so um that started my journey and somehow it worked so I've been spending the rest of my life studying that had that not happen do you think you were going to do in a different direction sure absolutely absolutely yeah what if the worst thing that happened to you is the best thing that happened to you and that starts this this
you create this belief in your mind that you can heal yourself using your mind well it was kind of crazy because um I think when you're faced with crisis like in the situation like this we tend to focus on the worst thing that could happen instead of the best thing that could happen and that's because of the hormones of stress and emergency you always prepare for the worst better chances of survival if you think about the worst so it took an enormous amount of energy for me to stop that to stop thinking that way and
stop feeling that way six and a half weeks of a Dark Night of the soul I would say because I couldn't get my brain to do what I wanted it to do even though I theoretically and understood it I just kept defaulting and I spent hours and finally I was able to to kind of get control over it and then as soon as I started noticing some changes in my body that's when I it's when I just the moment I started feeling my limbs again and when I started noticing I was moving a little better
I knew somehow I was having an effect and that's that's the moment it all changed for me running all these businesses Joe and you have such an Empire of businesses and projects and people and teams all over the world how have you managed your relationship with technology because technology is on omnipresent in my life yeah and that's why I say I get dragged out of bed by it Stephen I never planned on doing any of this I never I never plan on doing any of this I mean all the corporate stuff just came out of
a few lectures because there were CEOs and presidents of companies that urged me to create a model for change for companies and organizations I never wanted to do that I never wanted to do Inner Health Coalition for doctors just our community there's an emergent Consciousness that says please do that you know so we're we're working on uh in the same vein of the same Mission giving people our community listening to our community and creating you know more of that for people I don't have I don't have any difficulty if it's part of the mission to
do any of those things I think it's uh I think it if I were just doing my events and and that's it and we could just do that my life would be a whole lot simpler but all these other things that we're doing now in terms of they also bear a lot of fruit I mean the research that we're doing right now is is I can say right now Stephen that what we're doing is no longer pseudoscience I can say that now it's no longer pseudoscience I can say that in seven days your body can
make a pharmacy of chemicals that work better than any drug I can tell you that one intervention called meditation can change a host of different health conditions there's no drug that does that so if I weigh those all those different things that I have to evolve in some way against the effects it's producing it's always for me worth the effort are you happy yeah what does that mean um that I don't need anyone or anything to make me happy that's your definition of happiness I think yeah I mean if you have a kind of a
freedom of expression without any real limitation in your and you're comfortable with you and your and you love what you're doing and you feel good about it and sure I mean I'm always in the river of change I'm always looking for blind spots I'm always working on evolving who I am I always want to be I always want to evolve my experience I always want to look to see if it serves me uh so um Jeff sad days I have I have days where I'm overwhelmed by just just everything what are the symptoms of that
overwhelm um it takes me a little bit to focus my attention again just too many things I have to think about so I have to take a little time and get get centered and organized but do I have sad days I don't know sad I don't really know sad but uh kind of a days where I'm um kind of kind of introspective uh without needing much emotion yeah I I have those days yeah If This Were to be your last day on Earth Joe wow and there was just a central message that the millions of
people you know that could be listening right now you felt that they needed to hear that would serve them the best and serve as collectively the best what might that Central message be it's important for people to believe in themselves I think it's really important for people to remember that they're the creators on some level and they have a hand in creating in their life and that uh possibility is something that they should always keep their mind open to I think that we're greater than we think or more powerful than we know more Unlimited than
we could ever dream do you realize how many people you've helped um gosh I don't know I don't know maybe you must be moved by the feedback you get because I was reading through testimonials and messages and all the top comments and stuff and it's really really profound stuff you know and I it's hard to imagine a world where that that doesn't touch you know it's sit with you it's Better or For Worse you know people stop me a lot of times and I'll be somewhere and they'll say hey I I know you hear this
a lot but um you you really help me or you really changed my life and I always say to them I never I never get tired of the story uh it's the feedback for me that uh uh inspires me to keep doing what I'm doing so I love the stories I love those I love to hear them and it challenges many times my own belief about what's possible so um yeah I think I I I love to celebrate that with people this next chapter of your life is successful we sit here 10 years from now
and you say Steve that was a fantastic decade for you what would have happened in that decade for you to say that gosh um we would publish a lot of papers that show um how powerful people really are um we would have our own research center where we could do even further studies on cancer on all different chronic health conditions uh we were studying the effects of healing on others and we have really profound data on that as well um I think that the conversation in in healthcare and Medicine could change on some level I
mean the conversations that I'm having with researchers and Physicians are not the same conversations I was having just two years ago especially when they look at our data they they kind of fall out of their chair I mean it's I mean as an example a drug study is about 25 percent causality one and four responds and it's usually you know 60 days 90 days a year before you see a change our data is between 75 and 85 percent causality that means eight out of 10 people are getting a response and they're not taking anything no
exogenous substance in other words their their nervous system is producing a pharmacy of chemicals that works better than any drug right so I think the conversation around emotional regulation and emotional health could change that's something that I'm interested in I think meditation could be something that is a way of life for more people to to be healthier and to be happier and to be more whole uh I mean when I started this journey even you couldn't even say meditation in public you couldn't even couldn't say it in certain organizations corporations government agencies it was not
allowed right now it's sexy now it's cool right um so demystifying uh that process because there's so many colloquialisms and slangs and idioms that have to do with meditation demystifying that process you know we don't teach any traditional meditation we don't teach anything that's based on culture religion we teach meditation based on the data we see based on the brain scans based on the hrvs based on the data that we're collecting we know the we know the words now we know the mihuzik we know the timing we know a lot of things uh in terms
of transformation that has helped us in so many ways so what do you think is going to become sexy in 10 years from now that's not sexy now like meditation God I hope it's not AI I hope it's not I hope it's not AI I hope it's something that has to do with the human spirit ladies and gentlemen I'm interrupting this broadcast with a very special announcement two years ago I started writing a book based on everything I've learned from doing this podcast and meeting all of the incredible people that have had the privilege of
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looking at some of your upcoming initiatives one in particular was this walk that you're doing which I found really really interesting um this is the first ever Global walk that will take place on Saturday September 23rd 2012 this year and all the details are at walk for the dot world so www.walk for the dot world and I was reading about why you're doing this and the words Community came up the words illusion of Separation came up yeah I think you know if you study the peace Gathering projects that have been done peer-reviewed articles of Peace
Gathering projects when people come into a community they meditate on peace a city the crime rates go down violence goes down car crashes car accidents go down economic growth goes up somehow there's a change in the in the collective but when the meditation ends in the peace Gathering project ends the crime rate returns back to the same that you know the the car accidents and the violence return back to the same ceiling value as it was before it's not enough to just uh pray it's time to be the prayer right so walking meditation we do
in our community and we do a lot of them because you got to be able to walk as it you got to be able to do it with your eyes open doing with your eyes closed it's a practice so you can do it with your eyes open so you can demonstrate it demonstrate peace demonstrate love demonstrate um change for the world and so the walking meditations there's four types of meditations there's a seated meditation we do a lot of that and that's traditional there's a standing and walking meditation and there's a lying down meditation we
teach all of those but the standing and walking meditation is a great way to stand up for the world and decide if I change and have enough of us change we could actually change the world so meditation starts with our eyes closed standing up with our eyes closed and getting into an altered state music changes we open our eyes and we walk as that change we embody that change we live that change we think about what we're going to leave behind for a new world what what what if I change what would be could I
am I part of the whole could I affect the whole and so a person walks for a period of time they stop again they close their eyes they recalibrate they get back in that feeling they open their eyes and they walk again and so walking meditation is a great way for thousands and thousands of people from around the world to walk for change in the world and and and we have such compelling data about Collective networks of observers with brain and heart coherence that somehow when you have a random event generator in our and our
ballrooms and people change their state and they have an intention that random events become less random and more intentional in other words a machine that's programmed to SS a coin a thousand times a second multiple times a second the more you toss a coin the more you're gonna get 50 50 right so if you if you have a machine in the room and and nobody's in the room you see just kind of this line stay right around the 50 50 mark But when you fill that room with people and they change their state and they
have an intention all of a sudden you see that line break way out of normal and a program machine that's normally flipping zeros and ones starts behaving very differently it tells us that Collective networks begin to determine reality and it's not the number of people it's not the amount of energy you have entropic energy it's the most coherent group of people so if we come together in one day and this will be one of many walks you leave everything behind bring your family bring your friends bring your co-workers bring your neighbors you never have to
have done a meditation before we'll we'll guide people through it we'll give them the MP3 file and um we have just over 800 or 900 cities now from around the world that are from people from around the world that are participating and the numbers are growing so we don't know where it'll go but it's our first attempt to just say if we just couldn't move the needle one degree and off that trajectory off that timeline just in another timeline then it served its purpose so so um yeah we're excited about it it's the first one
and hopefully we'll do uh some more I'll put all the details below wherever you're listening to this so you can check it out it I was wondering is your speaking Joe I was asking myself you're someone that's constantly doing research and developing new ideas and hypotheses about the world and the way humans are and the way the universe is do there exist beliefs in your head that you're too scared to share you mean beliefs that I have that that are from experience or beliefs that I have that I'm that are conjecturous either both yeah I
I have a very strong belief that that um the probability of us seeing the truth in reality is zero I think that we perceive less than one percent of reality the brain is missing out on a lot of data and I think that we should never exclude ourselves from the unknown you know I think there's a whole part of the unknown self that that we're unaware of that that I'm that I think exists Beyond linear uh time and space and I and I do believe that that it's real and you don't know what that is
oh I do yeah yeah I think it's a realm beyond space and time that that I think uh you know your eye right now is perceiving a very small spectrum of frequency a visible light is a very tiny slice in the electromagnetic spectrum and that visible light red orange yellow blue green indigo violet is is actually bouncing off of the slowest and most stable form of energy called matter and that gives us this perception of Separation right well that small spectrum is less than one percent of what we actually can perceive so I think that
our senses plug us into reality into three-dimensional reality but I think there are realities that exist beyond space and time that we're unaware of that we can tap into yeah yeah I do and I think there are latent systems in the brain that once activated allows the brain to transduce that energy that frequency into profound information the psychedelics drug drugs work in in that in that way I think psychedelics give a person a perception of reality that's beyond three-dimensional reality we're discovering that the nervous system makes its own Pharmacy of psychedelics in fact we have
really recent data that shows that um many people that have a mystical experience in our work that have fmris look like they're on psilocybin yeah and yet your nervous systems making that that that natural chemical endogenously and how were those mystical experiences triggered I'll give you the short version um there's a tiny little gland in the back of your brain called the pineal gland and the pineal gland has tiny little crystals inside of it that are stacked up on top of each other rhombohedron in shape and that little tiny gland acts like a radio receiver
for electromagnetic frequencies and when those crystals become can can become activated like a radio receiver they can pick up frequencies that are beyond your senses the quantum and they can transduce it's called the transducer it can transduce that frequency like a TV antenna into profound imagery a very full-on sensory experience without your senses planes alone explains a lot my girlfriend always talks to me about the pineal gland in DMT and you know and the power of everything you've just described I just want to remain open-minded because being close-minded at any point in my life is
not conducive with progress and growth so my my um Desiring doing this podcast generally is just to learn from people that have New Perspectives on the nature of the world and to remain humble in the fact that I know very little so what you said at the end there about us knowing almost knowing zero about the nature of true reality or whatever that might mean I do believe I do believe that I know very little about the true nature of reality and my senses have deceived me whether it's in psychedelic States or other states so
I'm very aware of the fragility of this experience or you know where the truth is what I think it is yeah well um I think it only takes one mystical Moment One transcendental moment for us to realize that um we're missing out on a little bit of reality we have a closing tradition on this podcast where the last guest leaves a question for the next guest without knowing who they're leaving a question for if you were made president oh boy of this country and you have to implement laws that would make our lives better what
would you do and why where do we start [Laughter] oh boy um well um I would consider education to be a much bigger priority for both people that teach that they're rewarded in a better way and the educational system to be more Socratic and more stimulating for people to question and and and to have healthy debates I think that's great um I would consider looking at the medical Model A little bit more and really look to see if Health Care is really helping people in this country I would find ways to unify different uh uh
sex or or different uh organizations or bring them together bring them to the middle in some way I I think standing up for principles instead of politics is it's a really healthy thing to do I'd probably try to figure out a way to reduce the debt to end War to find ways that we could co-exist with other countries I'd certainly think a lot about artificial intelligence and decide if it was really really healthy for human beings I would encourage in many ways different religions to come together and and find ways to to get along I
would spend a lot of time with regenerative agriculture in bringing life back to the soil and back to the Earth and figuring out ways to help the oceans and species that are passing and and to address healthy food food that is good for people that that is medicine for people Joe thank you for your work and thank you on behalf of all the people the millions of people all around the world that you're clearly helping without really even knowing it um I've never seen such profound testimonials in any you know in anything I've ever seen
and also the reason I actually have this on the table isn't because you asked to promote me I think your team actually said I didn't need to put on the table but it's because one of our members of our team um their elderly relative has been going through a lot of a lot of pain and struggle in their lives um and they read your book and it really really helped them this week Ah that's great so they asked if they you could get if I could get it signed on behalf of them absolutely which I
think is a testament to to the impact you're having on people so thank you so much Joe it's an honor oh thank you Stephen for all the work you do also I appreciate it every year around this time of year for whatever reason I go on a little bit of a psychological shift and that psychological shift I think is somewhat inspired by summer but it's also inspired by the fact that I want to feel strong in this season of life and as I age strength training is my number one form of training and the question
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