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Good evening dear navigators of the mind Today we are here to talk about a very controversial subject, I would say controversial Out of ignorance due to lack of knowledge and not because of what it actually is we are going to talk about borderline personality disorder which you may have heard referred to as border as borderline now borderline personality disorder it's difficult for people to say it correctly and I'll confess I went through my entire medical school and I did my residency in Psychiatry and no one introduced me to this subject despite the current dsm4 or 5 at the time dsm 3 of 1970 to have introduced the disorder as official within its diagnostic and statistical manual for mental disorders, so it's a very difficult thing because you're going to say it like that, Bia, but it was already mentioned in 1970, that's all it takes to spread knowledge Even getting into the medical practice of psychiatrists in the psychotherapy practice of psychologists, social workers and all healthcare personnel is difficult, it takes a lot more time, so we're going to talk about something that a lot of people have never heard of but that a lot of people suffer from this disorder Why do you suffer because borderline personality disorder makes the person who has it and the people who are generally around them suffer, we are going to talk a little about this but before we start talking about the personality disorder we are going to talk about what personality is because then we start to speak the same language, which is a personality, our identity, I would say the following, the way we feel, think and act, right? Every time we have the characteristic of thinking in a way, feeling in a way and acting with these feelings, thoughts and feelings, we are faced with a characteristic that It's the way we present ourselves to the world, personality is nothing more than our identity, it's the way we present ourselves to the world and it's basically made up of two aspects, right? We have a very biological part, that is, a The inherited part has a very large genetic load that we call temperament and there is a load also called character that accounts for experiences, so every time you have a personality you have part of it Sender given genetically and part of it will form accordingly with what you experience that that you will face in your life what you will traumatize you what you will meet the people around who will give you strength or sometimes not so much give you strength or hinder you So this is character, we can shaping Genetics Not so much, but it is important that we know that even though we have very strong genetics, these genetics can often be unfavorable, such as the case of chronic depression, such as bipolarity, as well as borderline personality disorder, which we have a genetic influence as well accentuated we can change why Because the part that is the part of the experiences is the part of the character it can be modulated so this gives us certainty that we can always change unfavorable genetics and make a much better story the personality eh Borderline, we all have, I'll give an example like this, we've all had, eh, outbursts of anger, sadness, stubbornness, instability, intense jealousy, emotional attachment.

In other words, that dependency, despair, emotional lack of control, fear of rejection, dissatisfaction, everyone has had it this at some point in our lives, especially when we fell in love or broke up a relationship, we ended up at the bottom of the well Ok, everyone has had this but when this when these dysfunctional behaviors are often intense and persistent and generate an existential pattern that makes it difficult for the individual to adapt to their social environment and their interpersonal coexistence, so we can say that we are faced with a borderline personality, okay? that one Well, person, you may not have the intensity and the persistence of several of these symptoms that we talked about here, but you have certainly had an emotional loss of control due to trauma, fear , despair due to something that happened in your personal life, in your professional life, so this really can make us have the empathy to see that what for us is a difficult moment is a moment where our emotions are somewhat unstable there is a personality that is this all the time and then we can understand why it is so difficult for the borderline to adjust their relationships Especially their interpersonal relationships of a more intimate nature borderline is a term, right, the term is not from our language, it's in English, it means edge, right, it's like the edge of the pool, you know where it is, here's the part that doesn't have water and here's the part that has water that has the see the limit when I speak oh, be careful with the edge, be careful with the edge of the pool, borderlines would be people who live on the edge, they are born from a way of being and existing that they are always on the edge of being out of control, they are always on the edge of instability, it's as if they were a person that overturns in their emotions, remember when I spoke or gave a course or class about psychopathic personality disorder that I said like this, think that a psychopath is a person who is 100% right and has zero emotions, of course we never have that exact number but just to have a thought Now think the opposite almost 100% emotion and almost zero reason This is the borderline so he capsizes his emotions he really can't handle his Feelings he overreacts to any emotion, especially negative content and especially negative content coming of their interpersonal relationships, we do a lot of comparing because there are people who talk like that, oh, but the borderline is a psychopath. No, he's not a psychopath.

If he is going to lose control, he will be meticulously calculated to achieve his goal. A borderline, when he has an emotional loss of control, an attack of anger or rage, he has no control over that rage attack he is having because he has a biological pattern. as if there the leaking glass goes out of bounds and he becomes, as we usually say, blind with anger, then blind with not being able to organize his thoughts, his feelings and the action ends up being this action completely uncontrolled, it is important that we understand that the disorder of personality borderline affects many more women than men in a three to one ratio I have my doubts about this as I have my doubts including the statistics that talk about borderline they say on average 2% of the population This is an American statistic but we end up too eh, using Mainly in Western countries, if we think about it, in Brazil this will be 2%, we have 200 and 15, it will be more or less 4 million people, it's not that little and I still say more, I think the statistics first they are outdated because from the World Health Organization we have these statistics there and the apa also from 2010 , so it's been a long time and another thing I think there is underdiagnosis in the same way that we are here today talking about this disorder and saying what how much it was ignored and how much it is still ignored by a large part of the general population and even the medical community, can you imagine these statistics always tell me that there will be at least 50% or more than what we are seeing and for example the statistics they say that borderline in outpatient treatment, whether in an office or outpatient clinic, you have more or less 10 10% of the population that seeks help, help for depression or anxiety or for anything that the person is feeling bad about, we have more or less 10% as a borderline When you see this statistic in the inpatient clinics it already rises to 20% because because we know that the borderline tends to suppress this excess of emotion that they have and they tend to try to anesthetize themselves using drugs, for example, and they are often hospitalized for this drug abuse, they are often hospitalized for acute depression with a risk of suicide, so we will always see much more statistics in a clinic and in hospital admissions than in outpatient clinics, one thing too It's very interesting for us to know that borderline is predominant in women, but I would say that I think it's almost the same, why, because men don't talk about their emotional outbursts, men don't seek help because of this, but I see a lot of borderline men.

has a statistics that we know that there is an increased risk of suicide among borderlines. Of course , it's not like bipolar people, but there is a statistic that states that the majority of suicides are committed by men and not by women, so we can intuit that, right? or you might think that many men who commit suicide were borderline and we never knew why they even reported any type of discomfort, mainly emotional, men attribute it to a different weakness than what studies suggest, I think we have more than 4 million of patients with borderline disorder I would risk something around 6 million 50% more who are there without diagnosis because the vast majority of these patients arrive at the office Because they are depressed after a traumatic separation or after abandonment they have panic disorder very high anxiety or Burnout They never arrive saying, look, I came here because I want to treat my borderline, they always arrive for other reasons, there is an excess of emotion and they exaggerate everything they do, they think, they feel and they say, remember I said that personality is the way I feel like I think and how I I act then, the borderline, everything about him is a lot of thinking, feeling and acting, the borderline person lives on the edge of an emotional hemorrhage, he becomes blind or blind with anger, he suffers, he suffers, he bleeds his soul and often his own body Why the body itself, because often, in addition to looking the drugs to anesthetize the borderline self-mutilates, in other words, he causes injuries to himself as if it were a way of alleviating suffering, it is interesting that we observe that cutting this self- mutilation often causes the body to release endorphins, which is a substance is that we release it as if it were an analgesic to alleviate pain and often the search for this endorphin, right, makes them cut themselves to stop feeling this anguish, this despair and this emotional discomfort that characterizes the life of the Borderline, the borderline is intense, explosive, unstable possessive does not tolerate rejection, has low self-esteem and needs the other to feel alive, it is dysfunctional affect disorder, this would be a huge condition, the sineco symptom, if we have to tell the borderline, it is emotional dysfunction, he overreacts to everything, especially the rejection that for him is as if it were a rejection, it's as if it were letting Him exist, that's why he tends to cling to the other effectively because the borderline itself has a vacuum, it has a vacuum of identity, it's as if it doesn't feel whole, it sees that He needs the other, he sees, feels and literally thinks that he needs the other to be someone, thinking that he only exists through someone else, he makes affective relationships something very complicated because the other is no longer just the object of love, another is mainly breathing is the oxygen it needs to exist for This is a very strong tendency towards emotional dependence to cling to the other, which is much more than just feeling something for the other, but it is a need to live because he doesn't feel like a person, he doesn't see his identity, he doesn't see himself as he is There is another thing that makes diagnosing Borderline treatment very difficult, which is its intersection with other disorders .

with borderline they take 10 years to receive a diagnosis 10 years why Because they will look for it first because they feel distressed or anxious And then because they had post-breakup depression so it is never the focus of the Essence disorder of that personality the doctor has to be very trained to see the BP when it is covered by other disorders because I always say there is a diagnosis that is primary there are others that can come together they are secondary which we call comorbidity But we always have to go into the essence of each person if us wants to undergo a treatment that will really give him the power to change himself from being someone he can actually build who he is. Bord has a fluid identity without consistency and crosses other boundaries of behavior human, I'm going to talk here very quickly about these other disorders that are usually disguised, disguising the borderline or else it's together with it, we have depression, cyclothymia, bipolarity, ADHD itself and we see that in TDH we have a excess of thoughts not necessarily of emotion but here the focus is on excess of emotion we also have antisocial personality in some areas which are rare, okay we are not the majority The vast majority are extremely empathetic people they are extremely sentimental people we will see that out of desperation emotional they are capable of doing things that really lead to evil. So we have to be careful, but even so, this motivating reason is an emotional dysfunction and not an emotional coldness.

We have post-traumatic stress, which for borderline patients, traumatic situations are very worse and at that moment they tend to get a little bit and have some psychotic symptoms of really leaving reality and we also have anxiety disorders, I would say that within the borderline depression, anxiety disorders cyclothymia and TDH traits are really conditions that they will often be there, covering up the essence of the borderline or coexisting. It is very important that a highly trained team with a lot of empathy for the Borderline's suffering can really separate this wheat from the chaff. We will talk very quickly today in the course, we will detail these differences which are fundamental for us not to make hasty judgments, there is also one thing that is important, which is the levels of severity of Border, which exist since the border trait, which is the border trait, is that person who has characteristics but does not make up the entire picture like the we'll see And then we say that he has a trait, in general, it is a trait more related to affective dependence, but the trait we treat treats because it bothers him, you see, we don't treat the patient because he has a diagnosis, we treat him to improve his suffering and also improve the suffering of people who love and like that person and often see that person break down, you know, in this fluidity of personality or even not being able to establish a healthy relationship with her or him, so from borderline traits with the presence of some characteristics even the typical borderline, the latter is the easiest to be identified depending on the quantity and intensity of the characteristics, for example, we know that passion is a borderline state, that dependence on wanting to see each other all the time, talking, almost as if it were an abstinence of not seeing the person, everyone who has ever fallen in love and everyone has been in love, you can understand how the borderline person lives all the time in this desperation for the presence and identity of the other, so I would say that passion gives us a feeling of star borderline, right, a state of depression after a breakup can also give us that feeling of star border and the trait It's as if you have that tendency but you don't have that despair but the tendency can bring suffering and requires treatment there are two types of borders, you know, I always like to say the implosive and the explosive the implosive it tends to implode, discharging all their frustration, anguish, anger and lack of control over themselves, they are the people who self-mutilate the most, they get hurt, they tend to escape inwards and they have explosive borders or explosives loaded with extremely explosive paints, they are those people who tend to attacks from fury to despair are those people who in a fit of rage can break things, can hurt themselves and hurt other people, of course not all of this division.

Sometimes you will have a border that has both characteristics and manifests itself as well, but in general there are the implosive borders much more than they hurt others, they tend even more to suicide attempts and there is the explosive one that tends more to the lack of control of impulses, come on, every borderline person presents, in their childhood or adolescence, characteristics of significant difficulties, that's it. super important people if We have to talk about what a borderline personality is and what the symptoms are. Let's focus on these situations.

Interpersonal relationships are always very conflicting relationships. The more the person has intimacy the more the conflict will appear because because the more the borderline depends on that person to feel whole then he will need much more from the other and will demand much more from the other and it is so interesting that the borderline enters anyone's life as a person extremely pleasant extremely intelligent they are all very intelligent the same intensity they have to depend on others and they also have the intensity to study when a borderline decides to study something he will be very good at that subject and often if the motivation to study a subject is the passion he has for someone who is involved, for example, with a subject, let's Supposing that Bord falls in love with someone who is a Bible reader, Bord will be able to read the Bible and know details of the Bible that not even the most studious person has the capacity to do and he does this motivated by the question to win over that person and have that person by their side so they become fluid in their tastes in their studies so they can have the big problem is that after they feel that the person is nice to them or is with them they end up despairing. afraid of losing in the conquest part, it's okay because she doesn't have it yet, so I'm not afraid of losing, then the fear begins, the despair begins and then another phase begins, all that magic, that charm that the borderline awakened with the one he fell in love with, begins to fall because that person, so secure, so interesting, begins to become show a person desperate out of control not to lose the greater the despair not to lose the greater the chance of losing because he begins to want to control the other's life knowing everything and not giving space and then what he fears the most and what he tries to avoid abandonment ends up happening then This is extremely important for the borderline patient to understand that it is not this control that will lead to the person having it, it is being a better person with themselves to have a greater quality of coexistence with others and this is fundamental in understanding self-knowledge and also in treatment as we will see self-perception, which is self-perception, borderline sees himself as someone much worse than he is, he always sees himself in an unfavorable light, for example, borderline on social media, he keeps seeing all the people thinking he is inferior to everyone people he goes through a process of comparison But it is an action where he always sees himself as a fraud, a hoax or much worse than everyone else, what is not true is absolutely not true but that is how he sees himself, he perceives himself in the stability of our mood It's often said that BP is very confused with bipolarity But that's not why.

Because with bipolar, he has a change in mood, it's a much more constant thing, he spends time in depression and time in Mania or Euphoria, BP doesn't. there is an instability, it is a change that is made at any frustration that occurs So he can change this state of mood the emotional state that leads to the change of mood but so several times a day several times a week always caused by something that affected his emotions and was read as unfavorable was read as a rejection even if this rejection did not actually occur, so it is very common for the borderline person to see rejection where it does not exist and we will see it during the course of the Chapter, which is one of the most complex causes. This occurs because there really is a characteristic of bording to see much more perceiving much more emotions in the other than we imagine so he has one he hyper-focuses on the other's emotions and sometimes the other says like that oh I don't know maybe because he's tired, right and he interprets it as not liking me anymore he's saying with disdain So this hyperreactivity to the emotions of those he likes and who he lives with and impulsivity They are extremely impulsive people, impulsive in the sense of exploding, right of seeking anesthesia, seeking medication and drugs and of aggressive behavior or of risk so that he can, in a certain way, channel this emptiness, this anguish that he has all the time, it's there all the time with him, so impulsivity often occurs in this sense, let's go, we'll talk about the diagnostic criteria here.

of borderline disorder according to DS 5 what is dsm5 statistical diagnostic manual of mental disorders of the apa of the american psychiatric association which is in its fifth edition, it was recognized in dm3 in 1970 patients must have persistent instability in relationships in high image and in emotions this is imbalance emotional as well as marked impulsivity for this pattern is characterized by five of the following here we are talking about how this impulsiveness manifests itself desperate efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment intense and unstable relationships that alternate between idealization and devaluation of the other person, so the borderline person has this thing when in a relationship he loves or hates and he can love and hate several times in the same day or in the same week, so there is this Pole that leaves the other person also very confused about the image. unstable sense of self impulsivity in more than two areas that can harm you e. g.

unsafe sex binge eating reckless driving behaviors gestures or repeated threats of suicide self-harm rapid changes in mood usually lasting only a few hours and rarely more than a few days it is What I said is unstable, persistent feelings of emptiness, inappropriately intense anger or problems controlling anger, it is interesting that we see that the borderline is like a child, we don't see a child, for example, in the mall, we are walking there This child asked his mother for something and the mother refuses to give it and then what the child does, he starts crying and throws himself on the floor and we throw a tantrum but it's a resource, it's like that child who is still very early frustrated, okay, we're going to hit No, we won't welcome you, Look , I know It's annoying not having the toy but now mom can't buy it, you don't throw the child away, you welcome it, it's going to throw a tantrum, it's going to make a mess, why does it react like that because the brain is mature and has very little possibilities or tools to dealing with that frustration, borderline is like a child who doesn't leave that stage where he has few resources to deal with his anger and we will see that there is in fact a hyperactivation of the limbic system, which is the emotion system, which ends up causing all this emotional hemorrhaging and lose control, if we look at everything that's here, it's there in those four items that I told you about, so temporary paranoid thoughts or severe dissociative symptoms triggered by stress, there are times when the borderline can actually stay, eh, as we say, get out of it a little bit. little house why Because like him, any person when having a traumatic situation gets sick, the borderline, as he is hyperreactive, right, and hypersensitive, he, this problem is often, let's assume, the cube is triple So these people can in this excess emotion in this confusion is a little out of touch with reality and at these times we often have to use some medications so that this ends as quickly as possible because they really get into a mess without really knowing what they are talking about, it's not always it's It's rare, that's why this type of medication that we'll see in our chapter on treatment is very detailed and is used at these times, it's very punctual, it's not a medication that we always use. Furthermore, the symptoms must have happened in early adulthood but can also occur during adolescence This is a very interesting thing for us to talk about, for example, there is this thing about not being diagnosed with a personality disorder before the age of 18.

Some authors even talk about before the age of 25 because that is when the You have the total maturation of the frontal lobe, which would be the our Wolf of Reason of the control of self-perception, I think that in a disorder like borderline that can change a person's life in a very intense way, we have to be as early as possible, as also occurs in the web on the autistic spectrum, the sooner the people detect the change in life can be much greater, I'm not comparing theia to borderline, but I'm talking about precocity, how important it is for us to act early and we know that many people already in adolescence show characteristic symptoms that resemble borderline, of course we the diagnosis will only be finalized later but if you identify this, especially in adolescence when you have your first crush, your first romances, that thing of greater interaction, you know, when the person leaves the family a little and interacts with friends, this can become much more visible and it is very important that we act early Because the sooner the more chance I will have of that person having a more harmonious life, even in children there are characteristics, sometimes signs, we cannot close the diagnosis if we have the opportunity to transform sooner, avoiding suffering for that person is always worth it It's a shame we act like we're like that Maybe he will be borderline so I can start relieving this road because it is very painful for those who feel it, sometimes also for those around there is something that I did very detailed with 40 items but we will only see that in the course because it is very extensive, which is the borderline of its dysfunctions, I separated it into four large groups, which is emotional dysfunction, right, which is the essential condition . behavior You remember that I said that personality was how I feel, look at emotional dysfunctions, how I think, look at cognitive dysfunctions, how I act And then we have behavioral dysfunctions and I even added one more item that would be personal dysfunction, which is the way in which it borders You can see it in the way he presents himself, which is a detail, you know, the way he dresses, the way he picks up other people's gestures, so we went into a lot of detail about these four large groups, giving a total of 40 items and items that we exemplify for ourselves. be able to have a greater identification when we talk about classification the d smm classification is 5 or from the World Health Organization the CDE they are very pragmatic, right And they are organized in a way that sometimes you read but it is much more for a doctor for a psychologist but it doesn't give you an example, it doesn't open up these details so that you can identify a practical example in life, so I made a point of doing this in detail in the course, we're going to waste a lot more time on this so that we can make this association than It's a symptom but what's that it manifests itself in real life and we cannot forget that we human beings are social beings we were born to relate to each other.

So if we have great difficulty relating to others, perhaps our lives will have a very difficult time for us to exercise our humanity, I think that the earlier the better so that we can facilitate the path of these people, but we left in the course a chapter just for the characteristics of children, a chapter just for these teenagers so that mothers and people who also deal with children and professionals, psychologists, psychiatrists, pediatricians can actually understand these details and even share them with the tip family like this Look at this here we can improve this way in the way parents deal with the way of teaching this child to deal better with their feelings with their emotions we will also talk about walking on eggshells everyone has heard of this expression walking on eggshells, what is this expression in the case of the Borderline, it defines the difficulty of interpersonal relationships, so people who interact with the Borderline are always walking on eggshells because they can interpret a change in tone of voice or even a change of face like a rejection then It's very difficult, generally, they are conflicting, self-destructive relationships with fights, humiliations, Borderline constantly demands attention from his partner and needs this love to fill the chronic void and legitimize his existence, which we're going to have to show him that this isn't the case, Borderline is a whole being like we all are whole We are not half orange or apple or anything else and that is the great challenge for us to make him understand and make him enjoy this wisdom of the entirety of every human being he try at all costs to control the other's steps due to excessive fear of abandonment, the relationship sometimes becomes unsustainable and the partner may move away because Because the despair is so great to lose, as I said, he ends up losing due to excess control or the suffocation that it can do to others, an important thing that we have to see within these affective relationships is there a pattern that attracts borderlines Or that borderlines are attracted to each other, they are perfectionist people, right? If we were to talk of perfectionist women who think that with their perfection, with their method, they can make that person , and fix that person, or we will have narcissists or psychopaths who will use the borderline's desire to do anything at any price so as not to lose to be able to inflate their egos in the case of narcissists or psychopaths to execute their plans that are not legal, right? So he uses this will, this devotion that a borderline woman, a borderline man can have for his partner and do anything for Him so as not to lose, so this It's very common for women to get involved with Psychopathic men and be used in that sense, so I've put some examples, of course we'll have several, I'd like you to participate, send me other examples, eh, of Brazilian television drama, we've put Here's the story that Débora Falabela played in that double identity series, which is worth watching because it's a class on psychopathy that starred Bruno Galasso.

And Débora Falabella played a borderline that he knew how to use like no one else to let that person try to make her The Alibi to prove that he wasn't what he really was is worth seeing and another character is Lady Die Mariana Chimenes in which she played a very serious and very manipulative borderline and we see two here totally different why Because Débora in the double identity she made a very implosive self-destructive border in the case of Mariana Gimenes she made another one much more Explosive much more manipulative they are two very cool profiles but I really wanted you to participate and send them like this Movies series to so that we can say borderline is not borderline so that you can also learn from art art also serves to teach us a lot of things we will also have borderline celebrities on the course because then you will say So, Bia, but how do you know that Emy or Marilyn or Elizabeth Taylor was borderline? I'm not saying that I know, I'm making it clear that in reality, we can't say or give a diagnosis to someone you've never met. but when you see the lives of these people, the symptoms, the Suffering and the trajectory there are many signs of borderline and we made this very clear on the course so that we could see exactly where they were overturning and we all have to thank the borderlines because Hollywood would not be Hollywood without borderlines art would not be art without borderlines because they are intense people with the ability to be someone they are not very easily so art especially cinema theater the series they they TM How to transform into a character very easily, firstly, they study it in depth and secondly, since it's nothing in quotation marks, as they don't have an identity, it's very easy for them to assume another identity very vehemently, many of these people, eh, the actresses found it difficult to get out of the character afterwards.

so much was it I immersed this intensity and we saw a very interesting coincidence between Emy and Janes Joplin, they both died at the age of 27, in an intense and totally dysfunctional life in terms of controlling their emotions and interpersonal relationships, treating borderline, right people, today we are doing Um , how am I going to say ? real change of wanting to give in and also to be a team Who knows a lot about borders, has empathy, sensitivity to understand that sometimes this borderline will love you and sometimes he will hate you But it's nothing with you, in reality it's much more with him, it's with him this stability So I've seen many doctors, many therapists said I don't ever want to treat BP, I want distance, look, ok, it's these people's choice to do it But I can only attribute this to ignorance, lack of knowledge to not understanding and also vanity because it's difficult to treat bord because he will often be rude to you, many times he will test your limits, he will test your dedication So I think we have to review our concepts of caring for others because we can't want to be pleased as a doctor, we have to be a vehicle for treating the person's transformation so that they can be better at the stages of treatment, right, first is acceptance, knowledge, information, the borderline, he has to understand who he is how his brain works how yours work dysfunctionalities he has to understand himself so that he can be an active agent of his change no one will be able to change there is no point in medication it will not do that for the borderline, technical support, that is, a great team, drug therapy we will have, but it is not the solution, it is the relief we will see in the course that both dopamine, serotonin and norepinephrine adrenaline are very altered and we sometimes use medications to improve, for example, this pattern of serotonin, decrease irritability, decrease instability, decrease impulsivity even so that they can do what really is the great treatment that is therapy, it is this self-knowledge and this desire to change and control this emotional hemorrhage that ends up controlling their lives in a very unpleasant way for them, we also talk about psychotherapy. in CBT and the best is not even CBT, CBT is very good for sure but it would be a variant of CBT which is dialectical behavioral therapy, it really proves to be the best and we on the course will have just one chapter talking about dialectics and why this marriage so happy for borderline treatment, it will be with Drfabíula, okay, don't miss it and Group therapy, group therapy even exists on the border, but it is important that there is a mediator, it is important that group therapy is for the exchange of positive experiences and not exchanges negative Because this can infect the group in a very bad way, so you need to have some criteria for having a BP group for it to be effective, I would say that the group works more for mild cases, right, or moderately severe cases, they really need a individualized therapy until they can have this maturity, this knowledge, this self-knowledge so that they can attend a group in a harmonious way.

There is a group that I call Madam, which is women who love more anonymous people, which I really like . No, it is not a group for borderlines, but it is a group that treats women who become attached and who depend on men. It is important that everyone understands that emotional relationships must be healthy, they must make us grow as people, grow as human beings, which is often done for women who don't have no recourse for therapy it's very interesting because they present and help to deal with disorders that we see happen a lot, especially related to interpersonal relationships, in general, and for borderline, this is always their biggest challenge, okay, we'll see too, I think.

It's very interesting that people talk like this, the big problem with Border is relationships, I think every human being has the challenge of having good relationships, not only with those we want to hang out with or want to live with, but also with everyone if we we can have better relationships all over the world you gain from this And then you'll say like this, oh, but what does Bord have to teach us? Everything is because maybe we learn a lot more from what we shouldn't do than from what we should do to people more Successful women in life had their best learning moments in their mistakes and when I say that people say that, oh, but Bond, this course is for those who are for everyone, everyone who wants to know about knowledge, everyone who wants self-knowledge, everyone who has already fallen in love with everyone who one day has already overturned in their emotions we have to understand that the difference from others is not qualitative it is quantitative I can understand anyone because at some point I may have had some feeling, some similar emotion that didn't cause me trouble or that caused me But I can, yes So, for example, it's a course for psychologists Certainly, because I'm sure that the vast majority of psychologists didn't study borderline in college, for social workers, for all the people who deal with mental health, for doctors, for general doctors, for pediatricians who deal with the personality of children like this from a very early age, to help with identification won't treat but it will help with identification, right, psychologists don't even talk about it, right? Mainly, you see behavioral dialectics, there are very few specialized psychologists, we need them to specialize more because there is a huge demand and we don't have enough professionals, so all the knowledge here is very favorable to being very human for everyone and how do we learn, right, because the borderline has an extremely dysfunctional relationship in his relationship, right, often self-centered, wanting a lot of attention, often adhering, that is, clinging to the other as if the other were the salvation of life and this teaches us that this never works out, the relationship that exists, the relationship discovering what real love is because the borderline person confuses passion with love, right, dependence with love, love is nothing like that, so we do this course a great tribute to true love, right, that we end up having what to teach to borderline patients and ends up learning for us that true love is when I am in a relationship with another person, I bring out my best and I also bring out my best in myself and in others and that is how a relationship becomes healthy and so that love is made, so we have a lot to learn from people with borderline problems, yes, about real love because many times we don't even think about it, but when we see the suffering of a person with borderline disease, we stop and think that we can also improve, eh our way of loving our way of existing, okay, I would like to leave a kiss for all of you, believe in love, believe in the improvement of people because if we can have better relationships, we can, eh, Love is not just loving others, loving what is done, loving life, loving others, us It transforms the world, it's the only way for us to transform the world, thank you very much and until our course [Music] I'm looking forward to starting this learning journey with you, let's go [Music] there.