JRE MMA Show #165 with Jiri Prochazka

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fever so yeah that's crazy that was that was yeah that was something what I but every time maybe I'm a little bit glad for that because I'm every time trying to push my preparation too much mhm that I'm every time like hurt myself or or I'm overtrained right so so that's why I'm maybe maybe just a little bit glad for that that's interesting right like it's it's so hard because you want to prepare so hard you you're so disciplined so driven but you can do yourself a disservice you can go too far and then you

don't recover enough and then you go into the fight a little compromised yep that's right yeah we've SE seen that many times with fighters who just get so enthusiastic about their training yeah I'm because I feel like self-confidence and still there is something what you can do better yeah every day and that's my idea of of the training life life idea to to to go better every day 1% better 1% better even if you don't if you can't train you can sit in the meditation and visualiz it how you train how the how the body

is working but sometimes is the most uh biggest like the biggest thing what you can do is just rest like like you show me the floating yes yeah you need one of those man if all the people that I know you you need one a sensory deprivation tank you should get one of those cuz I know you're into meditation I know you spend a lot of time in dark rooms that's that's meditation times 100 that's right do you monitor your heart rate every day to see what your recover is at or you just go by

feel feeling feeling feeling I did that in uh High attitude training in uh all the November in uh Mexico Mexico City where is a 2,300 200 7,700 ft above sea level I believe yes and uh yeah there I there I monitor monitor everything like take a blood exams before in and after the these Camp four weeks Camp there and man amazing amazing how but your endurance was incredible in that fight because that was such a high paced fight and still I I felt like uh after that flu I felt a little bit down but was

that's pretty amazing then you must have been in insane shape before the flu yeah it's that fine line that balance y yeah you so you went to Mexico City did you did you know a gym up there or did you bring your Camp up there uh I was there in uh UFC performance Institute there there's there's a new one nice man you you have everything here in in the performance Institute like regeneration training coaches uh coaches with the pads M and uh so yeah I was there for especially for uh to work on on the

things what I what I took from the last fight with Pereira to to work on on the hands up a little bit just a little bit a little bit but we were talking about in the broadcast your hands down sometimes has a benefit there's a there's a real advantage to it because no one sees where those punches are coming coming from yeah so for the people that don't know what I'm talking about not just bunches movement movement head movement head movement was excellent everything your head movement was excellent and the feeling feeling uh with the

hands up is another one with the that uh with the hands with the hands down yeah because this is your uh natural posture right yeah so you spend a more more most of the time in in this and uh it's it's about just uh just feeling the space feeling the I can explain to to another person like this one because uh when I when I am in in the flow like you want to be in the flow in the fight some between the flow and uncomfortable somewhere somewhere in the center so when I achieved this

attitude that's why I don't need to keep my hands up because this for me means and for everybody that means defending I don't need to defend myself when I see when I see everything when I feel everything and uh but like I understand in this preparation where I tried where I did all the camp hands up like this gives you the calm in uh in a close distance in a close distance it's not so uh sometimes it's not so smart to to keep hands down yeah I'm crazy I'm crazy enough to to go through to

be in the moment to stress my body so much in this situation to see every movement every start of the movement of my opponent that I can react before he start and the next level is to try to to to uh to read uh read uh the thinking of the opponent what he wants to do before he do that so so there is a many levels of of that so but sometimes I can't to explain that sometimes uh like in the second fight with Pereira I was a little bit uh punched uh in in the

in the in the end of of the first round so I stepped to the second round and I and I said to myself I was too courageous and keep the hands down so so that's why it happened well you should have been more defensive maybe to recover yes yes one thing you said after that fight you said you have to evolve and one thing that I saw in this last fight with Jamal Hill was Evolution I really saw it you really see it like the counters the the head movement and the counters were brilliant there's

one that uh I put on my Instagram stories it was so incredible he threw a punch you slid slightly out of the way landed a straight left and then the right hook that dropped him but it was so Dynamic it was so fast and precise I was like that's a different Yuri pahasa like the your earlier fights were always excellent you always had amazing power and very unusual movement very difficult to predict but the sharp Ness of your counters was on another level in this fight that's what I worked on yeah to we not just

uh connect to the opponent and react what's happened right now but little bit uh be little bit before what what will happen yes well you're you're definitely getting better which is so fascinating you know so you you had a very brilliant approach you waited until you had reached a certain level before you entered the UFC you could have been in the UFC years earlier yeah yeah that's right that's right Fitness isn't just about what you do in the gym it's also about your nutrition but even with the best diet some nutrients can be hard to

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like communicate about about that style what to make a better how to to do that that's why I'm keeping uh like my two coaches what I began with began with uh like all the time with with me because I think that's that's the only thing you can go uh to be a master with in something to stay with uh with some people with some uh tight Circle yeah tight Circle in some and go deeper you can go really deep yeah yeah so it's also I value loyalty loyalty is very important and this is it yeah

means a lot you know and when people worked really hard to get you to a certain level what I like is there's some coaches that they recognize that maybe there's other skill sets they can bring in so they work with other people as well you know but always stay with the people that brought as long as the relationship is good always stay with the people that brought you to the game yeah sure sure because in the end you can you can change whoever but you you you have to start again with with the same people

and go and again you will go to the same level to the same problems with the with these people because not it's it because it's not about them it's always about you to recognize what's in you how much tape do you watch do you watch a lot of film do you watch videos of fights yeah I was 5 days sick before the fight so so I I just watched the Spartans 300 yeah uh hbak I watch onb man that's wild [ __ ] man no no wild [ __ ] but my I was really in

inspired I I was really hungry for to to see something because long time I didn't see uh uh some good no good movie doesn't matter if it's like good or new but these old classics of the fighting je CLA vanam with kickboxer and all these things oh yeah that's what that's what U made a spark in inside me to a true love for martial arts because they in the in that movies they live that really live that and and they have no other chance to to solve their problems just just by martial arts and something

so that's that's why I'm so you got inspired by movies yeah do you watch a lot of films of fight footage like your fights your opponent's fights yeah yeah yeah but I don't need to I don't need many times to to study that I just need to like see once once I I just see the attit like attitude of the start of the fight how he's fighting his how to say his Spirit his mindset how he thinking how is the start of moving of his body how he's reacting for not just for opponent for the

many situation for slipping and and um movement but uh everything like a p personal I'm studying the the that guy not energy just his energy his WIP how he's how he's reacting how he react in uh in a in some situation like these iogs and all these things like some some breaks in the fight every every time because it shows you how he have under control himself all the time all the time and this is something what Alex Pereira I don't know what what is his story behind but he have to he handled that he

handled that and that's why he is how he is now he's starting to be more relaxed and I wish him to to stay sharp well I think he's more relaxed outside the fight but in the fight he's always very calm very calm and very focused yes yes yeah did you watch your first fight with him before you watch the second before you have fought him the second time yes sure sure yeah I I studied him a lot but the second fight I I I little push it too much too aggressive to no no no I

mean like training after the fight I was like I want Alex Pera after I'm ready for him right now I'm ready too but I'm open for for whoever will UFC will give me like a uh like uh like a next opponent to prove that I am but I want a true challenge like I want a true challenge of from from the I think top five guys yeah right the the interesting thing about the light heavyweight division is um there's there's only about five really exciting contenders four or five really there's not a deep pool of

Fighters that would be you know very interesting to see you fight that's right because there is a like I said today there's a few guys who really have the taste have the drive to to go to the job I want to go to the job I want to take it I have the I feel the energy of the crown and I can take it so and uh that's why that's why I'm I'm I'm doing that that's why I'm still talking about that to be there because I've really feel that that I can beat it up

and one thing what I needed is that I had to be stable stable to not just get to the top and back and out but to go to the top and know how how it is to be there no to uh to to keep the all these weights on the top what what what there is yeah yeah defending the title is more difficult even than than getting the title and then it's improving while you're Champion you know they say that Daniel Cormier always says that every Champion improves like significantly once they become champion because you

have the confidence of being champion and it's just how long can you maintain the kind of energy that's required to constantly get better because it's not just about maintaining right it's about constantly improving constant an analysis of all your movements and and what you're doing right what your mistakes that were made what the thought process was before the mistake and how to eliminate that yeah this is something what what is like I said the style of Japanese they they call that Kaizen yes kaisen like daily improvements small improvements daily recognizing what's bad what's good and

uh sometimes is like feel I feel like it's like like a sick like to be obset too much obsessed in that man you need a little break that's that's why I think the the life gave me these uh little break before the little flu yeah was that why you came in so light yeah yeah was that why that was that that was why CU I was watching a video with Luke Thomas was going over your performance everybody was very impressed and he was as well but one of the things that he was talking about was

that you only weigh 208 lbs you don't know when you walked into the cage I thought I will do the my best when I will go to the sauna night before the weai in and spend there and again I I change I switched myself in the sauna and I was there like for two hours oh like no just like 15 minutes 15 15 like many rounds right right two hours there and do you do Sonic cold or just son of relax wait relax relax okay uh no no no uh SAA cold sa you go back

in the sauna yes sure and cold normally like uh the cold cold punch MH I'm I'm doing that daily because I have the at home the cold punch and I'm using that yeah yeah they're fantastic yeah and but the fun is the second day after that and I didn't drink anything uh after the sauna and next day morning I went I went to the to the control weight and then I have I don't know how is in Li 91 kilog I I'm fighting in I'm fighting in 93 right and half and I was 2 and

a half kilogram under the my my weight so it's like 200 lb so yeah so I was the only one guy who who was in the row to the Ws W in and and I tried to hide myself before other guys and and I drank one liter one liter of the of the water second liter of the wow wow just cuz you didn't want to weigh in light because yeah I because I spent too much time in a SAA man wow that's crazy because you only weighed 208 yeah I felt really like you look great

you look very lean and fast man fast you look F like significantly you've always been very fast but you looked even faster it's just all about this man man well if you have the reason why and the and you can not just you want it like your ego just want it but you feel it like it's your destiny these moments and you want it's yours so then then it will happen so do you feel like maybe even the the fighter Pereira or a blessing and that it showed you what you need to work on every

time it's this is the only way how to how I want to see that yeah yeah especially especially the the guy like him who's really top guy and his uh style his mindset what he showed till now was something what I needed to work on still still I'm on I'm on the way yeah well his style is extraordinary um it's very unusual as is yours but the thing that's shocking the most about him is that he only needs to hit you once he's is it much different the power that you feel from him than anybody

else there's a different from other guys yeah there is a different but only one thing I can say like I know the receip recipe you know the recipe yeah what's the recipe what's the recipe how to because you have to you have to know how to give the punch and how to AC like to how to accept the punches how to move with it how to move with it and uh how to overcome the bad moments and all these things but it's better much better to defend the the punch with the hand or defend the

the the punch with the movement man yeah did you ever watch uh any of his Glory Kickboxing fights yeah yeah this is a good one to watch the artam vaj fight yeah cuz vajto is very technical I think he won he won a very close decision it was very close it was one of those fights where you could call it either way but but he won but he's very technical very interesting to watch him deal with the style of Pereira because Pereira is such an unusual way of moving like even the way he like holds

his hands up and looks different so do you you look different like there's only a few Fighters that if you saw their silhouette I could go oh that's Yuri praska I could see it right away I know how you move you know and Alex is that way as well it's like very unique way of moving but his uh the the way vaji handled that is a a good blueprint for a lot of people to avoid the power and you know keep the volume on him MH what was your original style what did what was the

first martial art that you learned Muay Thai Muay Thai yeah I started in uh in my high school I started with karate because that was it was in a in a daily daily schedule what kind of karate uh Shota Shotokan and uh Judo that was too and I felt like I need I need something more contact more more aggressive so not aggressive but more potent more potent yeah so I started with Muay Thai yeah typ the most potent yeah Muay Thai is fascinating to me that this one Island figured out how to fight better than

anybody on the feet y that's right and a lot of it they did it through gambling yeah that's a lot of it because they're so into gambling that they had so many fights and then people just fought a lot and then they're like what work works best and then they figured it out yeah and right now after watching onb I'm just I'm just still realizing what is the what is the best style what is the best movements best deadly techniques what to do uh and uh right now after the watch the long back I I

see the MU Boran right like uh like in my next chapter to what I want to see real real like uh in uh in Thailand to see really how to use that and how to how to because I'm the man who's like taking the piece here taking the piece here and making combining it all together com yeah all together yep so uh do have you trained in Thailand Thailand in Thailand yeah just a little bit for for like uh three weeks there before uh before the title fight with tesera then I was there with for

a camp yeah pet yeah the one of the bunk one of the greatest knockouts that you had was that Dominic Reyes spinning elbow which is beautiful Muay Thai flow that's a beautiful flow it's like you just timed that out that was a real coming out party for you that fight cuz that was when people like my God like this guy yeah always find a way yeah yeah when you um first started fighting in MMA was this something first of all how old were you when you had your first fight oh when I was first fight

in my 1819 19 and were you looking at it as a career yeah yeah right from the beginning were you looking at it to do that was what you wanted to do professionally yeah yeah right right away right away yeah it's from my yeah 20 20 around my 20 yeah you knew you wanted to be a championship fighter yes yes because that was something what what I I was in too inspired by by because uh I was a young guy who tried to to challenge everything around himself everything every man every situation everywhere I I

will I am better than this I am better than this better than and may not the school just just not in the school but but I like the fighting I I fall in love in with the fighting with the looking for finding my biggest strength and uh that's that's the why I'm I'm I'm going every time to the nature to sleeping in the mountains to U that's why I'm living in the cottage to be in the contact with the nature to feel the present moment and rare natural power of the of the water fire of

all these things of the sun yeah yeah I was going to ask you about that like when did you start this training in nature because uh when you look at your setup that you have at your place and everything's outside you know you put pads over trees and you you punch and kick trees yeah sometimes it's sometimes look looks looks weird but but you know wow uh I don't like to to tr I don't like right now I I realize I I need to I want I right now I want to overcome the the people

the mans the the sparing Partners in the in the training but like in my personal way uh I was inspired by once I was inspired by uh masu Tatu oyama was the founder of uh kyokushin K karate MH and I saw his movie and how he spent uh more than one year one and a half year in the mountains and he trained just in the mountains under the waterfall in the winter uh in the winter and he made from himself a really really something like unshakable mind self-confidence so deep because he he he found a

way how to overcome how to rule his body how to he's uh describing that in his book like the mind without the thinking like without the thoughts pure mind pure Focus pure Consciousness right here right now and I took that uh like my own way and and I think it was year 214 215 and I took everything in myself I I took a 10 10 yeah and I and I went to the to the mountains to the mountains and I slept there for just for like one week two weeks one and a half week yeah

and I I was inspired too much so I did the same thing I ran there there and I punched to the to the Rock and yeah and uh yeah and I just and I just want to fight with the environment like with the with the nature around me and in the end you can realize there is no fighting there is nothing just this is the pure life because this is the pure life because the pure the life has the one reason to overcome everything around and uh survive survive survive survived and this is the this

is the nature what is in us so this is and as deeper you can go in this uncomfortable uh environment and all these things that deep you can uh understand the life and like be a philosopher about that like understand more deeply and I don't know how to say yeah no you're saying it right yeah I understand what you're saying so that's why so I was inspired by the masu Tatu oama and that that's why I decide after the second f with Alex I need to go to Japan to Japan to the places to make

a black Bel from kyokushin Kai karate and really feel uh all these things like a realist realist not just think about that how it can be how how is this style can be but to live that that's it because I like like to take an inspiration and take it and go there uh fight that fight that guy uh live that experience yeah this is it this is yeah playoffs we're talking about playoffs you bet we are get in on the action with draftking Sportsbook an official sports betting partner of the NFL scoring touchdowns is key

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and that you Embrace and I think I think it's the only way it's also there something fascinating about the fact that you do do it outside I think that scares people I think something about the fact that you like to be fighting in nature and punching trees like because because I'm coming like from from uh from a from one village where was the a lot of like good guys but everybody we we were we are still like really crazy when we are celebrating it's all the time about right now we are trying to slow down

to to show others like we are an adults like we we know we are the man but still it's about like the showing the the strength yeah how what's to what to destroy how to how to punch other guy how to how to sh the the strength above others yeah so and when when there was when there started uh on the okay I could say when when on these parties started the level of like it was really dangerous fire and firearms and and the and the cars and and fire and it was not safe then

I said guys okay we are a man let's be mature let's yeah please yeah take it down a notch because somebody could die yeah and that's something what you what you have to realize and these these a sense of a a looking for a strength these something uh this true Madness like like when I see these uh this picture of of that and and it remembered me that when I saw that when I came here the JRE logo yeah the logo yeah when I saw that it it remembered me like yes go through going through

all the time choose the choose the hardest way and go through overcome whatever and show you are the you are the boss yeah and and this is this is it this is why I'm I came from that place where we are tried to to show each other this one and I trying to give car that ener carry that energy and put it in the in the calm way to to to show it in the in the cage and uh that's why the samurai ideas the Bushido codex helping me in that to to show it that's

all I understand and and then you feel that in training in nature and then experiencing the Wild and getting it out there it becomes even more pure because you recognize that all around you is survival man that's that's right yeah yeah thank you thank you you you you are on the wave now we're on the same wave yeah so when what year did you start doing this training in the wild like I said in uh 2014 2014 yeah like I was I started was inspired by by masu oama and then I realized it's not about

opponents man it's about just your body just about Ro rule your body how much you can you can rule your body rule your mind rule your emotions logical state of of thinking yeah to uh find the way how to not overcome how to rule your breath because this is this this is it this is the way and uh because this is the most primal thing of the B body yeah first when the child is born like first his breath everything is like you can uh you can uh settle by by the breath in in the

body not just by thoughts and over the thinking and thoughts is like uh a great uh surf but a bad boss yeah really so so it serves you well but it's you can't let it control you yes so there's a many levels what you have to uh what you have to rule in your in your body what you have to understand and put it in put it in one way in the in the present moment so yeah so you had your first fights when you're around 18 19 Y and then how long when did you

decide that you were ready for the UFC and how did you make that decision cuz I I do know that you were offered fights before but you said I want more development time that that was in a some somewhere in the center of between in my sixth seventh fight in Horizon so around the year two 27 to8 yeah some some something like that and uh yeah I realized that man there is a there is a way in the rising yet yeah so I need I need to no I need to I want to take a

title here I want to prove that I'm the how you say like the the king of Japan like yes to to rule rule these guys real really and uh then I can go to the to the league of the best because if you want to go to the league of the the best better to be prepared for yeah and uh yeah I think that happens too often that's why I can can fight for a title in in three fights so I think um boxing has it right in in that boxing they look at Fighters managers

look at Fighters as an investment so if you are a manager and you have like Floyd Mayweather you don't give Floyd Mayweather the the best fight you can get him right away with the toughest guy you want to see how he performs with a guy who's an inside puncher a body body puncher who's a brawler you want to see how he handles a slick guy like Emanuel Augustus with unorthodox movement you want to how's he handle Diego corales Long Tall reach and you you build them with Fighters that you think you got to know when

they're ready yeah and then there's a an objective assessment okay he's ready then you start moving him into top 10 contenders then you move him to a title shot UFC throws you right to the Wolves yeah yeah it's good to to have this objective View and if you if I like to to be uh just a watcher of the of my progress of the of the situation think about that how to plan it how to how to see that not uh not personally just to see yourself as another person and put it in a in

myself in a way where uh where it will be the best for these for these uh targets MH and then go in and do that yeah yeah and when you uh you had a very quick rise in the UFC to a title fight so you fought was Vulcan oir your first fight yeah yeah so you beat Vulcan o Demir then Dominic Reyes was the second fight and then bam title shot yeah crazy so that's the reason to be so prepared yes because if you're successful things go very quickly that's right you have to be ready

when you look at your first fight with Vulcan oir and then you look at your fight with Jamal Hill do you see significant improvement with who the first one when you look at your first fight in the UFC when you fought Vulcan o deir and now you look at yourself now in the the most spectacular performance against Jamal Hill do you see the Improvement right now I can see us yeah yeah because there was a with the B the mirror there was a just the pure raw power ra raw the aggression aggression aggression but not

so um refined yeah yeah yeah so yeah you can see that in that fight man there was that was just a pure uh chaos pure chaos man I was too too too much sometimes is the self-confident like when you are too much self-confident it's a bad thing yeah like because ego will to you to another another line and it will uh it will destroy you yeah yeah it will burn you so you have to keep that burn that fire under control and to give the these uh these attacks these aggressive aggress aggressiveness uh in just

a small uh uh to keep it under control just yeah I like what you just said that ego will take you to another line man it's it's good to be to have it it's we can't live without in this world with uh cooperations with collaboration and talking uh relationships you can't live without but also you have to cultivate that in like so there is a two two worlds like life without and life so you have to go in yeah it they have to be working together the mind and the ego have to be working together

and the the no mind the Zen that's right the flow yeah and the ego will take you out of the flow the ego like I'm going to go [ __ ] him up and then boom you get hit that's right yeah I like what you said though about it takes you out of the line because it takes you into a different line it takes you in a different line of fighting and then sometimes in that line you'll realize you're out of place you realize as you're leaving openings that shouldn't be there and you're trying to

force yeah good Force yeah force and power yeah yeah yeah and good when you you said like when you realize that it's bad when you don't realize and sometimes it's good when you have the people around you to to man bring you back bring you back and that's why I'm sometimes really glad for my team my people around me to keep me back that's what's amazing about having a coach who knows you having train ERS who know you they know they like they know where you're at like calm down calm down everything's great but you're

hitting the gas too much like so be a little more technical move around more Yep yeah but not too much not too much not too much right because sometimes is the these wildness do the aggression to to take over like it's too necessary but well that's what I asked you after the fight I said there's something about you where you thrive you get better when it's chaotic there's something like it seems like you Relish in the chaos of these wild exchanges it's very because sometimes Fighters like to piece people up where they're not getting hit

like Jamal Hill's really good at that like the Glover to shareff fight he did a fantastic job of utilizing his game and his accuracy and reach and he just put it on Glover yep yep but they don't want to be in these wild exchanges you seem to want to be in these wild exchanges because you thrive there yeah that's right that's right and sometimes it's I don't know where where is the where this to keeping uh yourself and the control is going for sometimes it's going from the fear to be not hit sometimes it's going

from to be careful for the takedowns and but I want to be like Fearless in that like to stay behind uh stay before the opponent and have no no fear no you can go as close you want to can close you want and try to hit me and you will not hit me because I'm here and I and I feel you I'm I got you so I can't explain it and I don't want to explain it I want to show that in a fight so right so I know what you're saying when you um one

of the things that we were talking about Daniel and I were talking about when we were doing the commentary was your head movement was so good it was it was different than before it was like at another level like what what specifically had you do had you done to prepare that made your head movement so much better I have uh like long time I'm working on that like since my before I stepped in the UF no since my title find in uh I really I really exactly know what what when I started to work on

especially on that because I realized that this is my game this is really what's me and uh it was around the the title fight with uh with King Mo in Rising so that was a title title fight in Rising and it's about the the feeling the opponent the feel the opponent but not be uh but to not be uh how to say to not let the this feeling to to to to push you in some way you know understand to to feel the space but still be calm be unshakeable and uh you can feel the

the then you can feel the the space around you the everything and whatever will move right now you will react for that and and uh naturally because you will feel the the these all these things like your like yourself like everything is you and then then you can step to the level I am everywhere because there is no different between me this this thing this thing the opponent but still but still and that's sometimes why I need to be why I need to be a little bit hit to feel the aggression back to the fight

that was that was before the before the UFC and I need I was needed to to get hit because I need to because I felt him felt the felt the movement felt the right right movement everything was right but I I also needed to be more aggressive to wanted to go through the opponent yeah because I was too how to say too nice too nice for them to just just just show them I can sleep and I can move everything you can you don't you can't hit me but this is not the fight the fight

is the answer to to catch him in in the right moment so so yes to be here and now to be like I said to be everything but still to not be uh pushed by these feeling like to be to be so nice not too much aggressive but something in the middle of still control that it's all about control balance yeah I like what you said like that there's no difference between you and your opponent like you're not even you're just in this flow of movement and life yeah and this thing you're you're choosing to

do there's no difference between you and them you're not you don't even exist you're just a part of it all yes and the bad is bad for fighting is when you really realized uh we are doing this we are doing we are fighting each other and right now I'm going to to hurt other person and you don't you don't see really the the difference between you and him so you know you are doing to to yourself but this is the game what we chose right and we are here to to have a fun so not

just have a fun to to live this experience to live this experience and an extreme experience that will teach you about yourself like no other experience yeah that's right there's if you want to learn about yourself go fight yeah you you really find out you can [ __ ] yourself all you want but until you fight that's right and when you go through a loss like the losses to Pereira what is your process like of like evaluating what went wrong and how to how to change things what's what's wrong yeah like how do you what

what's your process like what do you do when you when you lose a fight and then you come back like what is your thought process what do you say I have to learn I have to figure out what went wrong let me man after that last last uh the second fight first time I can first time in my life I uh realized that man that was a really like I will not say what what was that how how hard it was because I don't like it but it was something what I didn't uh experience yet

not not like till till now so that time I really uh realized how powerful the meditation and the true self-talking with with uh uh true how the true meditation look like because I have no other chance than the start uh stop doing a [ __ ] stop doing just uh pure uh inspirational training in the garden uh stop doing all the all these things and and start doing just a things what what really matter what can what have to a real effect how you can feel how you want to be and uh yeah the power

of true self-talking power of true overcoming the mistakes in the in the in the life and be the boss of your mind mind because sometimes it's sometimes it's uh yeah it was it was the next level yeah very difficult to recover from a loss like that but you yeah because especially when you lost like that was that was that was bad yeah that was for me like uh how to say like uh like a man who likes the honor and and all these uh all these codes like from Bushido Moral Moral code like that was

something what was for me uh really bad he got you yeah yeah that's how it goes man you you say it like you say you can say it like that but I really work on every every move every thought every uh catching the every every move in the in the fighting and now it this happened that was not me that was that was really it was me but man you showed yourself your worst your your worst to the world man but so that's why but then you came after that and showed your best so this

is the thing about overcoming a loss like that is that I'm sure it was awful but because of it the pain that you felt from it caused you to rise to another level that's is what is life about yeah yeah I'm still yeah this is you need the challenge you need Tong po you know yeah no no that that's that's right and and uh how I see this world and this is what what I wanted to speak with you what is what is here right now the the true challenges in true challenges in this world

in this age like uh in uh in humans life in like like what is there because how I see that like there is uh not too much think what we not not too much there is a lot but still we can go right now we have to go to another level because there is a too much of the of the of the Comfort life M of the of the people because like that you can have the food like that you can have a drink uh a massage uh every everything so there is there is no

no price like I see in the young people what they want to pay to achieve some really achieve something because yeah they just want things H handed to them that's it yeah this is an entitlement error because things are very easy and when things are easy it's very difficult to develop character that's why for young people I always tell them you should choose to do something hard choose to do something hard for your human development for you as a human being because if you just live your life in comfort you will have a terrible life

yeah I think and only one reason only one thing what I realized like may maybe the one one one thing the Step Up will be like take us two step back and understand the true life I think so I think we'll realize that the people that live this way are living disastrous lives and people will learn from that mistake because this level of comfort that most people have is very new historically it's very new in human history there's never really been a time where the poor people were fat that's right this is a weird time

that's right yeah the poorest amongst us have no worries about the starving to death they're in America they they're fat it's more common than not I think some crazy number of people in this country are obese what was the number was like 60% it 60% of people are obese something crazy like that which is just nuts and it's too easy it's too easy to exist and I don't mean it's too easy like you don't have to work and I'm sure everybody has to work and your work sucks it's hard and you got to get up

every day but physically you have to do something to test your will and your discipline and if you don't you're going to have a shitty life that's right that's right that's right and you won't be able to control yourself in situations where that require you to stay calm I think right now it's up to like it was in every culture up to the the old older older people to teach the younger like to real life to tell them like the simply tell them the stories listen the stories uh live the true life man because we

are for forgotting for all these things because we have the phones andh this is the fake lives yeah it's a fake life it's a fake life and it's bad for you it's bad for your development it'll hinder your potential like whatever you want to do in life if you want to be an artist if you want to be a musician whatever you want to you want to be an author it will hinder your development if you live the Comfort life and okay so this is it and how you how you see the like in the

10 years in the 50 years in the 100 years what's the next step for the not good I'm I'm right now I'm I'm trying to to lead you in some way but no this is your podcast sorry but I'm C I'm curious about that because I'm I'm uh trying to this is my this is my a true motivation the human evolution the evolution of myself MH how to fight better how to overcome the opponent better how to show him that I am everywhere and you have no chance around me please keep hold your head down

and tell the other I'm I'm the winner you know you know this is like yeah my my ego right wants this but the way to this there is but still in some humble way humble way to show it like peacefully show it show it like uh show violence peacefully yeah that's it yeah um I it was nice seeing you and Jamal Hill out after the fight having a drink together that was nice to see yeah I I I bought him the like my original drink what I'm drinking the vodka vodka sort of lime and uh

uh I told him like uh we fight together we drink together let's go let's go for that yeah because man we are everybody we are We Are One in the end there is no enemy even if you even with with you're the baddest enemy of the world man it was a good life it was a good fight let's drink together let's celebrate together that's all was it cool was it cool hanging out with him that was that was cool that's something what what what I like to to do with my opponents whoever won lo you

you win you lose whatever yeah mhm that's great yeah it was just it's always nice to see that's one thing that people really do love about a great fight is afterwards when the guys hug yeah but still still I don't like to to speak about opponent in some way in some bad way before the fight right and after fight change it like right it's not exist it and right now we are the friends and everything good man please yeah let's be honest you talk a [ __ ] about me talk a [ __ ] about

me okay so you are the [ __ ] but doesn't matter let's drink together you are who you are I am who I am let's drink but stay stay honest right keep that energy man yeah yeah because that's that's why I I like to keep same word same attitude before the fight in the preparation and after the fight in the fight after the fight all the time like the same that's me yeah and I want to show me not me before and me after right there's a lot lot of guys just for the sake of

promotion they talk a lot of [ __ ] and they're just trying to stir things up and make the fight more exciting by insulting people insulting their families yeah and it gets it gets very ugly and I think the audience turns on them over that and one of the things that's shown with uh your success and your popularity and guys like Alex is that you don't even have to speak English like it doesn't matter if you kick out I mean if it doesn't matter you could talk all the [ __ ] you want get everything

hyped up what really matters is how you perform inside the Octagon when you perform inside the Octagon like Alex has like you have it doesn't there's no need for [ __ ] talking it's you you people love you and they love you just by the style of your fighting and you're expressing your soul inside that cage like who you are as a man inside that cage you don't have to talk [ __ ] about someone's wife or all that crap yeah that's that's why many people around me like the my manager team try to be

more more focused for uh a promo and all these things and man the fight will do the promo this is the main thing of everything not selling these thing these thing this this giving the the main thing is the the fight the performance the performance that that's what kind of drives me crazy about um when Championship level Fighters have to do a lot of promotion before the fight I'm like man leave that guy alone what's really important is how he's going to perform if you want to promote it have a bunch of people like me

or you know Daniel Cormier or CH have people talk about the fight hype the fight up you don't have to bother this guy at 7 o'clock in the morning and talk to him for an hour about some [ __ ] nonsense what I like leave alone yeah that's what I like on UFC they are focused for performance that's great every time and no talking before no one fight other fight no special promo before the yeah like afterwards do interviews like right now afterwards relax but when leading up to the fight the most important thing is

that you're 100% prepared and anything that distracts from that should be eliminated that's right that's right that's right and yeah and many many many uh Fighters are yeah we are like Focus for yeah still there there are things about [ __ ] talking that I do like and what I do like is that first of all it gets a lot of people excited about it which makes me happy because I want more people to watch the sport but also there's a psychological aspect especially Conor McGregor he's so good at talking [ __ ] that he

gets people so angry that like when he fought Jose Aldo for instance like no one had ever treated Jose Aldo any way other than with respect he was one of the greatest Champions he's an elite fighter he defended his title multiple times destroyed his division yes but you could tell that all that [ __ ] talking from Conor had an effect on him emotionally and I think his ego made him go out of line so he ran right at Connor and tried to hit him and Connor stepped back and cracked him he was so energetic

so now imagine if instead if Jose Aldo fought that fight and dragged into the fourth and fifth round and started using the leg kicks that he used on Rah Faber and started like picking him apart from be careful in the beginning but stay inside the game plan stay inside fight the best of your ability don't get emotional don't that could have been a very different fight that's right but that's the weapon the weapon of [ __ ] talking yeah and especially if you know how to use that oh yeah he uses it better than anybody

he gets people so mad that's that's right that's that's right but it's still it's a big weight yes it's a big weight what you need to uh what you need to hand what you know how how to handle that yeah well it's also that big weight weighs on you as well it doesn't just weigh on your opponent when you talk a lot of [ __ ] it puts extra weight on you and it gets that can get you out of line that the pre the additional pressure you might hear the audience boo when they introduce

you like oh [ __ ] what have I done yeah yeah yeah that's right not everybody had the these these these uh big self-confident to to MH to keep that yeah it's um it's an interesting aspect but I don't like if if I had to choose one way or the other I would say just fight there's no need to talk [ __ ] we should behave like martial artists you know my my uh attitude about that is a true self-confident man A True True man who overcome and understand his body his mind his uh the

opponent's mind and body and and his mind don't need to he that guy don't need to to talk [ __ ] talk [ __ ] to doesn't matter to to to to to to show that to others to to the crowd or to to to fear the opponent mhm because why I know that and all I don't need to to to make a this show to anybody because I know it I know what what what will happen I have this self-confidence so the thing about talking [ __ ] though it does make you more money

because it does it does cause more people to pay attent like a good example of someone who doesn't need to talk [ __ ] but talks a lot of [ __ ] and becomes successful is Gordon Ryan you know Gordon Ryan the Jiu-Jitsu Champion that's his belt up there that's his Abu Gordon talks a lot of [ __ ] and he's the greatest of all time Y and he still talks a lot of [ __ ] but that's also why he's so popular is because like people talk [ __ ] back to him and there's

a lot of back and forth on social media the most important thing is to be uh to be him to be not like to play it right to play to be to to be true yourself when you are like that okay be a bad guy or or whatever but just show yourself that's it right who are you for real Express Who You Are in there and you might not even like who you are after it that's right yeah yeah so a lot of guys that aggression especially after a loss it leads them to a place

where they're like I I don't even like how I behave I don't even like me especially with the bad feelings of a loss so when you have all this aggression and [ __ ] talking and then a loss and a bad loss and you have this feeling of like I was an [ __ ] and I lost Y and the crowd cheered when I lost like [ __ ] yeah yeah yeah but that's the game they play though that's that's the game and this is something what what is for me uh I can't forget like

for myself because I want to show really true myself so I can't talk [ __ ] and yeah you've got to be yourself yeah that's me that's yeah you can't especially now if you Tred to become an [ __ ] now everybody would be confused like what what's what's going on if you took a heel turn I am [ __ ] B but so so big on so I need to keep myself like so straight so I can't I can't do that because because that will be just like I said ego line I will show

you just this one line no I need to show you the center right right you need to be pure you need to be you with no [ __ ] and that's how you perform at your best so after a fight like this there was a lot of this is I brought back to the Luke Thomas video he was saying like you could be the middleweight champion like if you made 20 you fought at 208 like that's a lot lighter probably than Dre dupc yeah draus is huge I look at him I was like how does

draus make 185 he's so Big Y have you thought about that I know there was some talk about that at one point in time yes I thought I thought about that but uh the main thing for me is right now I see the way in light heavyweight because I'm this one of the strongest guy in the in in this Division and I still feel like there is a way in uh in light heavweight and I said to myself like okay you can go to the middleweight but first show the consistency in light heavyweight take a

belt then you can with the belt from light heavweight you can fight for the belt from for middleweight in the middleweight to be a double Champion yeah so yeah well you know it's interesting because weight cutting is uh in my opinion the worst aspect of the sport Josh Barnett was just talking about this he was on the aerial helwani show and he was talking about the dangers of weight cutting in reference to Arman San's uh having to pull out of that fight Arman is big he's big when I stand next to him I cannot believe

he makes 155 he's very muscular very dense and very lean and so for him to make 155 it must be an absolutely brutal weight cut I got to think he weighs 180 easy maybe more you know he's big and I think off when he's out of Camp I bet he weighs closer to 200 I mean he's [ __ ] thick man so for a guy why why they do that why they done fighting in the in in uh in uh uh higher weight class in higher weight class well the thing is at that weight class

Islam makev is so [ __ ] good and he's so big he's another one you stand next to him you're like how the [ __ ] is this guy make 170 and he was actually talking about his first fight with Alexander volkanovski and one of the problems that he faced was that the fight was very early Australia time so that it could be on Pay-per-view in America so so he was getting ready at 5:00 a.m. so he did not have the time to recover from the weight cut from the previous day okay so instead of

having a full 24 plus hours so if you're weighing in at 10 o'clock in the morning now is it what time do you weigh in what time did you wi in in Los Angeles 8 8 in the morning in the morning so 8 in the morning and then you have a full 36 hours plus before you fight that's right which is plenty of time to recover and rehydrate but he did not get that with the vulcanos fight and you saw it in his performance he didn't look as good okay and cuz he's [ __ ]

big man so he's I think weight cutting should be eliminated I said this to Ari Emanuel when they first bought the UFC I said listen man you know what you do get rid of weight cutting just stop it it's not look if you can randomly test people for drugs you can randomly test their weight show up with a scale hey buddy step on the scale you're 190 PBS how the [ __ ] are you making 145 like do something like that right and come up with more weight classes there should be a weight class every

10 lb this idea of these giant gaps like 185 to 205 that's a 20 lb Gap that's huge that doesn't exist in boxing that's right they should have every 10 PBS 85 95 205 225 and then unlimited instead of 265 let them weigh whatever the [ __ ] they weigh yeah he got giant guys out there that can't fight in the UFC because they can't make 265 which is kind of crazy right like Bigfoot Bigfoot Silva when he was at his prime when he was when he was Saucy he was like 300 lb it was

[ __ ] huge so I like the way the open weights man yeah yeah open weight not 265 let Francis andana weigh whatever the [ __ ] he weighs when he doesn't cut weight probably weighs like 290 instead of having weight Cuts just take the Champions find out what the champion ways like don't get rid of the championship belts find out what is Islam makev wait Islam makev is a UFC champion best pound-for-pound fighter on Earth find what he weighs what do you weigh if you were healthy if weight cutting didn't exist would it be

185 okay 190 whatever that is that's how you fight now and we're not going to weigh you in the day before and let you rehydrate that's crazy talk fight people your size and and also the fights would be better because too many guys get depleted horribly by these weight like Max Holloway said he would never make 15 145 again after he fought ilot toor can't do it anymore cuz he had gone up to 55 he got thicker and then he went back to 45 he's just drained he just wasn't himself he didn't look good so

I think that would be and I know this is not an easy thing to do but I do think it's just like getting steroids out of fighting when they brought in usada when usada came in you saw people's physiques melt you saw people that were doing steroids on a regular basis and gaming the system and testing negative on the day of the fight but all through out their Camp they were using you saw their bodies change they started looking like doughy and flabby because they didn't have any testosterone anymore they [ __ ] up their

endocrine systems instead of allowing that they brought in usada and usada started randomly testing and a lot of people fell off great Champions fell off guys like vtor Belfor fell off great great fighters who when they were using were unbelievably good but then as soon as they had to be natural okay so we realized that we're going to have to sacrifice some Fighters for that this is the same approach that should be made with weight cutting weight cutting should not exist it's terrible for you it's unnecessary it's not necessary it's just sanction cheating that we've

done forever if you're telling me that Alex Pereira when he fought Israel adna he weighed 185 one day and 226 the next day that's crazy that's crazy yeah crazy that's and it's not a SL against Alex cuz Alex is willing to fight heavyweight he's willing to fight a what he weighs it should weight cutting is something that exists it's it's sanctioned they allow it to happen they know what's going on and it's cheating that's right they're not really 170 lbs that guy's 195 he's depleted and dried out and then he's going to swell back up

again and he's going to look huge the next day like trick everything is evolving so yes they should evolved that because for the SA safety of the fighters for the safety of the fighters it's not good to dehydrate your brain 24 hours before a cage fight that's right it's dumb yep but nobody's going to listen to me nobody listens to me Yuri nobody maybe offia I don't think they should even have cages I think it should be an open floor I think it should be an open floor like a basketball court yeah because I think

the best yeah the cage allows you to get up when you wouldn't ordinarily be able to get up you could walk wall walk the cage allows someone to press you up against an an an unnatural object there's a cage there so you could press a guy up against a cage whereas if you were standing in the center you could do Muti sweeps you could do you could rotate around each other there'd be more action there' be more movement that's right I also think if someone takes you down at the beginning of the first round at

the end of the round you're on your back you start that second round in the same position yeah you see that like uh yeah I I have the similar similar R of the of the fighting first I thought like where why there is a rules why there is a the I ging I I poges is not allowed so I'm glad for after this last fight it's not allowed it shouldn't be allowed but it's very effective man yeah but show all your weapon of your body how you can defeat this man that's all m one against

one that's all yes one against one that's all and the the minimal amount of rules possible you know another thing that I think they should do and I'm going to talk to Dana about this this week cover the fingers there's no reason to have these fingers exposed it doesn't help anything it doesn't help grappling you never grapple like this right you never you never use the fingers nobody does you do this or you do this or you you do different things with your hands but your fingers always Clos still the feeling still the feeling I

understand but the problem is the pokes because everybody does this because you used to barring with gloves on so I love the PO ey poges man everybody you will you know what will what will happen every everybody will be more prepared for for for not for iol for every possible attack for an eye because eyes is is the weapon too for my especially especially I I can I can speak about that because I'm using that like uh I see mhm so I know what you're saying maybe it's weird yeah man the problem is you don't

want people to go blind like Michael Bisping can't see out of his right eye yep you know and that I just I feel like for the sake of the athletes future everybody will to every [ __ ] sorry every every every fight every fight so seriously so preparation will be so and every uh people in the crowd will watch that with the man in this fight there can happen something what after that fight we we will not can nobody can change right right so we will like the fighters we will uh speak better uh perform

better train better be prepared to die right and not like uh just in our mind just to die to show the best performance like like um I mean that like philosophically like uh you have to stop thinking and be in the moment and all the all these things right but like but that's what that's we are right now speaking like about ancient fights like about the fight fight for the life real fight yeah real fight no rules at all do you think maybe get rid of Cups too and allow kicks of the balls that's real

it's a real Target it's a vulnerability of the human body to ignore vulnerability of the human body it sounds weird in especially in this age of the full of uh loss and all these things yeah but that's that's how I am how I see that we are living in the age where the losw is work lws and the system is working so we put the we have to put some some system on the fighting too so Eddie Bravo actually came up with an idea it was he was joking around but he wanted to call it

ultimate sack fighting where uh you would allow to kick a guy on the balls and that your balls would be exposed so it's like when the balls are in play the game changes and then the idea was that like your balls are so vulnerable but yet you cover them like a tie cup you know and then if they didn't if the balls were hanging out like you're you know your chin is hanging out that it would change everything he was just joking around it was very funny that the guy who would win would just have

like iron balls take yeah but nobody has iron balls I mean the human body has the the eye pokes and ball shots vulnerabilities you see you didn't saw the the the the monks how they how they kicking yeah I don't understand that I think they're just hitting each other in the taint I think their balls are tucked up I think otherwise it doesn't make any sense that you could just slam your foot cuz also the way they're doing it the monks they're kicking up they're kicking up I think they're just slaming their sh inep into

the Tain it's not really the balls like if you front kick that monk in the balls just front snap front he would fall down dead he'd be like ah what happened I thought you had iron balls nobody has iron balls nobody has iron eyeballs either you know the problem with eyeballs is yeah these guys yeah see how he's doing that he's getting kicked he's getting K yeah he's getting kicked in the taint his balls I can even see the way his sack has pulled up see that little thing that he's got on there but still

he's red yeah he probably has little balls too unfortunately it's stupid either way that's stupid that doesn't doesn't if that was the only way like if you could train that way and you know like a lot of the ties they kick uh banana trees and kick sandbags you know we have a sandbag out there it's so brutal to kick but if you do that enough you'll develop those micro fractures on your shins and it'll make your shins much tougher you can't make your balls tougher you can't make your balls tougher yeah there I think there

is no no uh no ah reason this guy just punched himself with the dick reason to this is so ridiculous this is so ridiculous this guy us to take oh no [ __ ] man oh oh no don't do it oh God he's getting slammed in the nuts by a log he guys just hit each other the balls but again I think if you Ste to one of those guys and front snap kicked him right in the balls and think they'd fall down this is stupid you know what I what I realized when I saw

the like a lot of Masters of of a lot of Masters of of these Kung Fu doing these weird stuff and and all these things so there's a way to like about Obsession of the of the martial arts of the doing something in in your life to the deepest level M but still this is a fighting yeah about this is about the win so I don't know if this will can can will help you to really defeat the no defeat no especially this is the just defense yeah okay so you are the prepar prepared to

defense your your boss and so man really like think about it like you real don't don't be don't don't give it too much on these on these side of an art of the like just doing uh it's good to to know one thing one two right one two really really deeply so you can time that timing that in every situation to know how to what how to do this movement in every situation but these movements uh an effective use of your time yes yeah it's not going to help you be a better fighter it's there's

a lot of ancient movements that are probably good for the development of your Consciousness and they're probably good overall for your ability to be a better martial artist because they teach you certain movements which are almost like a form like Kata a lot of people talk about forms and they say it's a waste of time but I I think it's a moving meditation I used to think it was a waste of time when I was a young man everything is when I got my black belt I just learned the C and then afterwards i' forgotten

them I as soon as I I just learned them so that I could pass the next test and then once I knew all the forms and the Cs I didn't care anymore I just wanted to fight so like yeah but but all these moves they're important are written in in your in your body in maybe maybe you don't realize that yet but in the hardest situation in the maybe there will one move will wow will will jump up and bomb you've trained your system you've trained your system about those things like the Neo inometrics man

I know the Kung Fu I know Kung Fu they think they're going to be able to do that now this is a they I was just reading an article about that and they were comparing it to Neo and the Matrix they think they're going to be able to download skills into people's brains man it's uh which sucks this is no but sucks because I want them to learn the way you learned I think no man there's a the ego the force mhm the force we will do that by I will take it and this there

it is me Demitri that's Demitri Demitri hey and instead of like to take a take a find a real snake and whatever I I I cannot descri describe on on the snake so I know what you're saying like train those movements so when the punch comes you block you counter and then that it's in your mind you will take some information and by the force you will give it in in yourself yeah to I don't know which which form you you meant like like like the like the Matrix we let's uh let's Google that because

they were Jamie will find the article um maybe like Elon Musk have that uh neuralink I don't thinkink or or something like that I don't think it was that invasive I think it was it was some other technology that they think they're going to be able to utilize scientists use Matrix style learning to write skills into human brains see noninvasively so they don't have to inject anything put a okay a wire in your brain techniques use realtime brain imagery and neuro feedback it bypasses learning processes that require effort study or practice with our method not

only can we nudge complex patterns around in the brain towards known ones but also for the first time write directly a new pattern into the brain and measure what effect that has on a person's Behavior said Dr coralene Lorden lead author the study and assistant professor of brain and cognitive Sciences at the University of Rochester that's crazy okay and this is this is the one one side the second side how I'm how I'm looking that how I'm taking that is about right now I have no antina right but but it's not about about just about

the hair it's about the to be open to be connect with the with a Consciousness and there I don't know how it working but is working to be just connected for all the information what's whatever happened and will happen is there in this moment right here right now and it's just a about the state if you are if you can be really connect for that because I don't know where many moves I didn't uh rehearse them I didn't trained they just came out while you're they just came out and in the fighting in the fight

and I don't know I don't know where and I didn't train spinning elbow never really no never man I didn't train that never crazy and just follow you just saw it it was just there I'm just following the flow following following the moment because there is a one elbow okay you have to and it's going really slow you have a second here it is yeah you have the second elbow use that boom boom and between one and second one there was a long conversation of you can do that try to do that okay I don't

believe that no do that please and this was such a phenomenal exchange people love that antenna too they love that crazy hair are you going to bring that back I likeed you like this man I streamlined the thing I worried about that antenna like that could get caught in something do what it could get caught like if if you're in a submission situation and you know how people grab shorts I don't think anyone should wear shorts either I think you should wear tights maybe I can grab it like you could yeah you could you know

what you could and it would be legal Dominic re CAU me in a in a guillotina in guillotina and I was there and and I said my [ __ ] my I have the hair big [ __ ] hair I can't can't give the the heads up so yeah that's what I'm saying that was the problem yeah in that moment yeah yeah I think shaved is better for you but it looks cool and that's what I'm saying like it's not about right right now I feel like no it's not about hair it's not about the

um anything is just about to to ex how to say to to be there be here and now that's all that's that's all what no [ __ ] just be in the moment especially right now you have all this momentum on your side because of that spectacular Victory so you must be very energized right now you must be really feeling like you're on the right path yeah but still this is uh uh this state and this feeling have the two sides yeah so that's why I because I know how how it is to be a

champion how is this all this feeling and still uh how is uh what is the to not be the champion to to really lost like a like a sh like like a [ __ ] F fell fell on the ground like a [ __ ] after and uh so I realized that uh it's about to be just here right now to be just here right now in this moment and show through yourself not playing not you don't do stupid [ __ ] don't do uh don't have the war hair be angry be no just be

that's it show show your true self that's that's all that and that's what I like on on the states on on America like they everywhere like they are they are okay with that to show yourself through yourself and we in Europe we have some special special thinking about America there like there is something something better than something better than uh everywhere and and you here just uh pushing more to everyone to just live through yourself and maybe I'm wrong no you're but but Freedom this is free Freedom [ __ ] man Freedom allows you to

be your best self yeah and this is something what man what is for me so inspirational yeah but still it's uh a gift a big gift but a big uh how to say um big weight uh yes big responsibility responsibility big responsib because if you don't know how to work with the gun it can be dangerous right yeah so right right right yeah with great power comes great responsibility yeah where um you you sit right now at the top of the Heat like uh after anv especially after that performance it's very likely that either you

or a lot of people forgetting about yam bovich always like to give him his props because yam bovich is still one of the best fighters in the world and I would like to see him get another shot because he's also 41 or 42 I think now and you know he doesn't have much time left in his prime Y and Yan is maintained like even at 40 years old still y doesn't show any signs of deterioration that's right man um when I thought about oppon my next opponents there was just like these guys uh anive Pereira

the Pereira most but let's seem how how the negotiations will be the Pereira anv and maybe the bovic so these three guys I see still there I see the uh challenge yes the challenge because I I want to go somewhere where I will feel I can because every time when when there is a challenge there is a new you yeah there's a new something new what you need to overcome what you need to uh rule what you need to um which you need to observe yes yeah they're the elite level of the game yeah you

know yam bovich he's one of the I think the only Gods To Go the Distance with Pereira other than Bruno Sil right y yeah because he have the hands up also that guy's made out of iron I mean I never forget the fight with anal when he was just going Shin to Shin with anali and anv could barely walk yam bovich is made out of rocks man that dude man I thought like he won that fight but very close very close fight but you could definitely see giving it to yamb bovich there's a lot of

those fights here's another thing that I think should happen in the UFC I think we need more than three judges I don't even think that theud judges some judges are very good I think the judging in California was very good I think uh overall I think we need at least five judges I think three is too little I think we need because there's too many times where two judges get it wrong and the crowd is like what the [ __ ] I think if you had five judges then you have two judges that would counterbalance

that other and there' be three2 in the right direction and You' get a good result okay I think you're more likely to get a good result an accurate result of what the fans and the experts see about the result of a fight than you would if there was only three judges or fighting to win yes fighting to win well that that's the I mean what Gordon likes to do Gordon Ryan likes to do is no uh no time limit fights he does no time limit fights with uh no points like listen we're going to submission

this is what this game is about it's bit me strangling you that's right yeah yeah yeah imagine that if they started doing the UFC like the old UFC like UFC W no rules maybe for somebody it will be little bit uh mhm like they will not like it because will be maybe sometimes it will be long maybe but maybe so what yeah yeah this is fighting yeah that's fighting people watch baseball yeah no no offense against baseball but that shit's boring as [ __ ] compared to fighting you you know what's my theory about that

so there is a sports a lot of sports but the first one first sport first uh uh [ __ ] first version of sports first version of version of sport was like one man wants to overcome the second man yes and it CES from DNA from from DNA from fight from fight for these piece of being Caven from eat from food fighting Predators yeah this is it this this that's why it came from and in the in the in the time there was like let's let's let's do some other another competition another competition to not

be so violent so violent but to be honest the realest one competition is the one man against the second man that's why that sport translates through all languages it's the only sport that translate like cricket cricket is huge in other parts of the world nobody watches Cricket in America in other parts of the world billions of people watch Cricket nobody gives a [ __ ] about Cricket here put Cricket on TV you no one's going to watch and we in the time we gave the some rules the kimonos the all these things no let's well

that was the beauty of the first UFC the first UFC was just wild no weight classes no no no real rules other than eye pokes you there's a there's a there's a Joe um Joe son was fighting Keith Hackney yeah and Keith Hackney was uh caught in a guillotine and he's just punching Joan in the balls it's a famous scene you remember that I yeah it was like I remember watching that going oh this is awful this is awful there's another one in Brazil Big Daddy Goodrich was fighting this guy named the the Pedro look

at this just pure nutshots just one after the other right to the balls this was horrible to watch show me the monk training but here's the thing if he's wearing a cup especially if he's wearing a tie cup a steel cup which I also think should be illegal I don't think he should have steel cups cuz steel cups act as a leverage Point as well okay you know not only you could break your foot on it it's an unnatural object and then if you get someone in an arm bar with a steel cup you could

break it it's like it's an extra leverage point it's like it's like bending a stick over a rock use it like a whap him yeah and you Kenny floran used to always fight with a tii steel cup and he's like I don't know why anybody would fight with anything else cuz it hurts them when they kick me yeah and it really is like a good leverage point it's also good for the mount if somebody mounts you there was a guy that I used to train with a be renovari and he used to get on top

of you and mount you and drive his cup drive his dick in your solar plexus and You' want to tap it was horrible but it was smart I mean if if it's legal it's it's a smart thing find a way between the laws yeah imagine if nobody had cups if cups were illegal there'd be so much more nutshots you know maybe somebody will find a way how to jump with the these C to do a face like those guys I don't think so I don't think that's real I don't think that would work but other

than that the you know the rules uh they're pretty good they're getting a little bit better I'd like knees on the ground as well knees to the I don't think opponent should be allowed to be in a turtle when your head is vulnerable you have to move you have to avoid those knees and that's a like before my last fight right now uh the the ref referee oh sorry I didn't with the with the big mustache oh Mike beltron Mike Bel yes sorry Mike beltron because he he's a good guy and uh he tried to

uh to tell me like how to when because I didn't know that the change of the rules the change of the rules like when the hands down right when it's not the when it's not the elbow when the hands down and you staying and the legs and hands down you can KN the opponent to the head still so man that's that's better that's better much better much better because guys were gaming the system they put a hand down so they couldn't get knee in the face that's crazy that doesn't make any sense you should not

be doing that yeah that that's a good rule that they changed another rues the 12 to six elbow that should be legal too and now that's legal again and that's the only reason for Jon Jones ever having a loss you know so there's there's good movement on the rules ryzen allowed uh knees to the head to agress kicking did you get accustomed to that and have to like get that out of your system when you came to the UFC was there any moments where you like thought about throwing a soer no no I I didn't

thought about that but um when you are still when you are in the control in in the fighting what's the I think the the the biggest U biggest thing in of the fighter in in the fighting to to to stay in in the control so you know what to do what can't to do uh but some there's moments when you don't don't control yourself too much so so it's it's dangerous but in raising I used that I I did that like I think I twice yeah yeah it's very effective it should be allowed I think

it should be allowed I think the only problem with Soccer Kicks is the cage so the cage if your head is right there and you get stomped you can't move yep yep so this it's the unnatural barrier of the cage that's the problem that's why I think basketball court man yeah matted down basketball court just two men in the center of it have a warning track where you go outside the warning track too many times you lose points because you're trying to avoid the fight plenty of movement plenty of time to and if someone gets

you down I was just trying to better right to imaginate that and it's it's better it's good it's much better yeah it's better because you wouldn't be able to just stall the fight out by holding someone against the cage cuz sometimes when Fighters are exhausted they'll just clinch Against the Cage try to catch their breath that wouldn't be allowed you couldn't do it there would be no opportunity to do that that's right that's right also if you got taken down you'd have to get up with skill you can't just use the cage to get up

it's very hard especially if you got a great wrestler like Islam on top of you very hard to get up any other way than wall walking yeah just right now I'm thinking about it I think about about the how's the name of the movie Hunger Games yeah just to put somebody and somebody somewhere and they will find each other's in the natural environment environments and and they will fight together and everybody will watch us so yeah so give them weapons well have you seen those they they do have like people with armor on fighting sword

fights now yeah yeah crazy just a matter of time before they take that armor off yep yep that's right that's right in some crazy country yeah some Wilder country that just y million dollar P purse you fight with swords jeez then you're back to the Roman days the Coliseum yeah but still how I see that when we are going higher in uh understanding everything we have to go Maybe I'm Wrong deeper in the in the in the these ra things we want to see more raw because to be not po like to go you understand

me yes I do cuz the consequences are higher you have to get more pure so Bal balance did you ever read uh any mamoto Musashi you know I read yeah of course I don't even have to ask but the book of five rings he talks about that because mamal Masashi was such a great sword fighter that he he believed the only way to fight at your best is you have to be a balanced person very balanced you have to be an artist you have to be able to do calligraphy and write poetry you can't just

be aggression you have to be completely balanced and he believed in that so strongly and taught that so strongly in the book of five rings that if you if you think about how he applied it to sword fighting it makes sense everything what you're saying Mak sense because you have to be completely pure when it's just two men and and swords yep you can't have any [ __ ] you can't let the ego get you on the wrong line because you're not just going to get punched in the face you're going to lose your head

that's right yeah that's right there is no yeah no time and that's why that's why I don't like it there's no time for a talking there is no time for a bad word in your uh talk no time for a bad move in the fighting so your mind have to stay controlled stay present and use do do nothing uh what's not what's not Ed ful for this moment yeah right now we are natural here but when the our life will uh these podcast these talking maybe when you will not talk uh your everything true Everything

honestly it will cost you a life so we will every we both we will pay attention of every our V because in in that ages of mamoto Musashi there was a even even the word can cost somebody's life yes so that's why they were so precise in everything in every that's the Japan every movement every even the even the teot MH even the t uh ritual is the is the is the arc so so so that's why they was and still they are so precise in the thinking in uh expressing in expressing your true self

not just talking um whatever [ __ ] hey how are you hey what's up I don't this is something what I don't like to to to America like everybody ask you hey how are you and and don't care about your they don't care about your your answer so and and I want to stay and hey I'm great how are you today no he's don't care and he's going somewhere so so why why why you why you ask me why you doing this so right so it's a figure of speech unfortunately but still it's a it's

a kind figur spe like how you doing know it's not real but it's not real they don't really care what you're doing they don't care how are you understand so so yeah let's let's be real but sometimes don't don't push it too much to right to the I am important every my V is important every movement so the true Power is coming is coming with a lightness to be lightness and lightness is not to take in so much seriously and taking too too much light so taking like like don't care about what I'm saying so

some still balance balance it's just balance it's constant balance and staying pure staying your and do you is that what you're feeling when you stare your opponents down cuz like these one of the the fights with Pereira and the fight with Jamal Hill you you just lock on your opponent and you stay air and is that what you're doing in that moment just trying to be completely present just empty yourself of all [ __ ] that's the yeah this is the moment where before the fight it's all about that because there is no opponent there

is a just a mo this moment I'm everywhere you're everywhere that's all oo I like it I'm everywhere yeah but this is not something what I'm telling you that because I want to be cool no no no I don't think you are this is a real truth yeah that's all so now that you have this big victory what happens next do you wait for the UFC to call you do you wait for anive and Pera to fight to see what happens next this is what I what I am right now not expecting what what I

wants to see the fight if if they fight will happen because they are Translating that so much this this their fight so so let's see let's see who's the best and my attitude and right now I know that how I what to do to not to get better to do a real serious preparation to get prepared for both of them doesn't matter who and be ready for for NE negotiation about about the next fight I want a title but I will let the life to give me who's before me right now who's the who's the

challenge right now before me so it's just about whatever the challenges accept it and then try to find your best self for that's NE this next performance as well that's right is an exciting time for you man how old are you right now 32 it's a perfect Prime that's in your Prime it's exciting time are you enjoying this life yes yes yes yes enjoying but oh man long time nobody asked me for like for these questions so I didn't thought about that long time but but yes since I decide I want to go this way

of the of the warrior over a true man to to to feel the true power and take it to our to my life and live with that not just to feel that and go away but to to keep it in a daily life yes yes I'm I'm enjoying that and I don't know who who said that like watch watch yourself like an uh like an uh art like an like an David you are uh right you're making a masterpiece Master make a masterpiece from your life and that's what I like to do in my uh

meditations to take a step up watch yourself watch what watch where you going what who you spend time with uh where is your uh daily daily what's your daily routines how it make it better and then go into the deepest level of the present moment and live that and stay with these uh your best ideas what you what you are connected with yes so yes you ask me yes I live that but I didn't in the time right now I can I I can say it right now I didn't expect it will cost you everything

like uh it will cost you your old personality and you will reborn like a new personality but still I know somebody my spirit whoever choose that yeah because I know this is the way one of the things that I have to talk to you about was in the Alex Pereira fight you thought that they were using some magic Spirits mag black magic yeah what do you why why did you think that you know okay I will take it from from another start okay uh when I'm doing something I'm doing that like uh I'm extreme in

every in everything what I'm doing so I want to go to the to the bottom to the bottom of the to the start where it the the source of that where where it's going and the source of the spiritual world of that question what is the spiritual world where is the where the source is uh if there is some weapons how that how they use that in the cage and I went in that so deep so I get lost really so I had to I had I had another no no other chance just to totally

close this close these uh doors just believe that I am who I am who to believe just for ideas which I started with like the martial arts and all these things and just be in the gym and train don't do another these [ __ ] because with the Pereira I really get lost and I started to believe uh to another people to not just myself and this is something this is the this is the way to the hell to when you start Stop Believing yourself your true yourself and when you start believing some spiritual guys

who's trying to protect you or uh giving you something and uh trying to lead you and they know what's the best for you and that was my my biggest school in this life I think [Music] to so yeah that was my like last preparation to just believe in myself go to the gym and train do a good camp do a camp what what's was the what was the first your biggest inspiration so in Japan I made a camp in Japan then I made in high altitude training in Mexico then I went back to my city

Bruno for my guys for my team and we made a solid good camp hard camp and uh the last fight I'm happy that happy what is it about getting down to the source that made you think he was using black magic yeah it's every time uh a big uh no big difference experience uh I said that that word big Power when you are responsibility respon it's big responsibility not just big responsibility we are we are I I want to speak right now so I don't want I don't want to speak about that fully because still

it is it is something what I am humble for and I can say this is it this is it yeah to because everyone everyone have has the their own way and nobody is like even me prepared for the saying uh some something what what can be for somebody like take it seriously ly you know you know maybe man again I I get lost in in that so the thing is I just started to believe I will not speak about where is the magic what how to use the magic but you believed that there was magic

working against you man I and that was the that was the biggest power to my for my opponent because I was fu for him not for me you know and that's where the black magic lies and then cuz it gets you outside your own head is that but is that black magic or is that just his presence as a champion because that's the the aura of a fighter is a weapon he have Israel when he in his prime had that Mike Tyson in his prime had that there's Anderson Silva had that there's an aura that

Champions have when they're in their Prime that makes you think about them instead of yourself and it probably seems like black magic yeah but still this is the just for me is a pure self-confidence and to be pure self-confident you you can't think about your opponent and that was the that was something what I made that was something what I really went to another level yeah yeah so when you look at yourself now now in this amazing performance against Jamal Hill do you are you imagining yourself even better are you constantly imagining yourself even more

precise even more accurate even more effective yeah yeah sure but right now I'm more in reality about that not not just in uh not just in imagination I want to see that in video I want to be real I want to see the my the results of my work the all these things real not just the think like still think about I can be better I can do this but I no I want to do I want to be a champion and I'm going for that and I want to show that to everyone that's all

and I will show that and then then we can speak about about the black magic again no because so right now you don't even want to concentrate on the idea of that yeah and to protect yourself from that you just don't think about it and be in your own mind it's all about that it's all about that because in the like I said the mind is a big uh greatest serf but the baddest uh baddest the boss yeah yeah so that's why it can run away from you yep yeah that's why I had to go

back to the Japan where like my old belief started to go really deep because there I started to be I don't know how to say like not not just in part but to live live it really live it with without without no without anything so and in managing your mind um I'm sure one of the most important things is to not have a lot of like negative influences not have a lot of negative thoughts and do you spend any time on social media when you're in Camp yeah yeah but but I'm doing just some posts

and that's all yeah just post and ghost post and go yeah that's it that's how to do it or posting maybe some uh answer to my just a few few of my friends and that's all no no reading comments no reading anything because I'm here to right now I'm here to to show you my way of the martial arts of the my my way to the to the strength what I still feel the way and this is it what is the um the days that you spend in darkness and silence what does that do for

you to still it's about explore your mind keep your mind disciplined keep your thoughts on the ground uh observe the it's all about the mind and and then about the training because I trained there too in that dark you mean in that dark room and yeah yeah so meditation observing mind follow follow your and find the best the best of your what you can what you can achieve in this life what you can if you can if you want really and this is the question what everybody have to answer for to to to ourselves which

life we want to live which thoughts is the uh useful which not which I need to let go and which I want to uh keep in my life so and so it's just a deep exploration of your own mind yes maybe the do because there is a lot of lot of levels like uh imagination uh see the some visualization some some life dreams all the all these things because after three days the it's there is a opening the third third eye is opening and you can see you can you can see truly who you are

and uh maybe sometimes it somebody needs more days without Foods so it's going to be uh then it's without food it's going to be like more intensive yeah everything's going much faster so yeah so when you started doing this you do no food you just drink water when you're in there yeah and if you to to understand me all these things I'm doing because I really decide like to use everything like a weapon in a fighting to use my mind use my visualization use the everything and that's that's why I went to do this trip

of the spirituality so deep because I fall I thought there will be some special weapons what I can use in the fighting and the biggest special weapon is to be yourself the realest yourself that's all there is the that's the key that's the key yeah well listen brother I'm a big fan I love watching your fight I really enjoy talking to you I wish you nothing but success and I can't wait to see you get after it again and I'm I'm very happy for you and your improvement the last five was incredible and uh thank

you for everything thank you thank you uh tell everybody you have a website do you have a website online what is your website uh I I have a just just a brand you mean like uh uh do you have a website or you just have social media oh social media yeah sure social media just Instagram Yuri praska Yuri y praska yes in Instagram Twitter too Twitter is U Yuri BJP there it is yep that's it what does BJP stand for wow man uh this is who I what I came from the stand the that's that

young uh Yi not young Yi the the true Yi who's uh but UFC don't like that UFC because I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm trying to tell them like this is the best e prasa but in the real is uh in check is a bombak p and that mean like bums as [ __ ] yeah so because yeah that's it that's it so it's bomb as [ __ ] Yuri prasa that's right that's it that's right beautiful yeah looking for a biggest strength that's all yes sir that's all right thank you brother this was awesome

really appreciate you thank you very much all right bye everybody [Applause] [Music]