The jogan Experience so I would imagine if you're the [ __ ] CIA you're like okay we're looking for people who have gone through these things in their life that that have curated this kind of like personality type well isn't it just like part of the gig like here here's for instance like your bit about puffy how you're going to connect these two [ __ ] dots y that bit is like look you don't have any real personal beef with Diddy but it's got to go down the the the bits are there I'm a gold
miner I just found some gold you're right maybe I'm a sociopath it's not that you're a sociopath it's just that that's part of the gig yes like you're not a sociopath with your friends no I think I'm maybe an empath yes but I guess it's one of those things where like you justify you go okay if there's I think this person might have done something bad yes and he can get jokes and we're all going to tell jokes I'm not pring fcking chares not only that you're not the guy who's out there like calling the
New York Times hey you know what I heard about way yeah exactly you're just like it's there I mean it's not just there it's everywhere my [ __ ] news feed is dominated by it Fox News CNN everyone there's raids at Diddy's house who is the guy that was running around with a sports bra on did you see that one dude no this is in la oh my God I got to send you the raids are happening yeah yeah he got caught up in the raid and he was yelling I'm a celebrity I'm a celebrity
it's like like one of the most hilarious Clips hold on I'm GNA find you this it's so funny MH do you know what I'm talking about Jamie no but you bring up a good point which is like are there ever situations where you feel you won't wait till you see this let me see SAR Sports FR hold on we're going to play it okay put your headphones on yeah put your headphones on so you can hear [Laughter] it see Santana oh look at this wearing what appears to be a black sports bra red tights and
the performers signature trim beard and long eyelashes I'm a yeah this is Joe this is Saucy Sant artist was yeah look at him look at oh wow saliva on the beard is crazy saliva on the beard he definitely came from a diddy party yeah well he was at Diddy's house I bet he was so I guess didd he just kept people at his houses cuz he's got multiple houses and he's just had freak out part look at him look at Saucy said go sa no sa's crazy have you seen Saucy twerk I didn't even know
Saucy existed until I saw that video oh Saucy can throw it down this is Booty by Saucy Tanana I don't even know if it's did these artist but is like a popular figure of Music they're staying at his house no Diddy's in a tricky situation statement of the year yeah I think it's over you think it's over I think it's over for him as like a uh a figure in entertainment right but you think it's over with him as far as he gets a cell right next to R Kelly I don't think so I don't
think he gets lock he skates I think he skates or he goes like Bali oh yeah that's a move huh I mean Russell's out there yeah yeah is is he been formally charged or do he just know that the [ __ ] is out there I think there's just so much [ __ ] out there BR I think those rappers did some wild [ __ ] it's yeah I mean wase in the 9s music business it's a lot of people it's not just the music business it's like it's the extortion business well that's yeah I
mean the rap game was crazy that's a lot thing a lot of people don't realize is like back in the day especially like early rap game you weren't just going to play at you know what's the the theater that you would play in LA what's like a big theater I'm trying to think the Orum or something like that wil turn the wilt some guys were explaining to me he was like you would play at the local Hood Club there was like a hood club that you could perform at and then that was owned by the
local drug dealer that was washing money there right so this is where the idea of like checking in comes from have you heard of this term like checking in was basically like hey I want to make sure we're good because you're going to pay me and if I don't check in you might rob me because you're putting me up at the hotel and you know everything that's going on and you're a drug dealer so you don't play by the rules right when you come to Houston you're checking in with certain people Mr Prince yes sir
Mr Prince yeah you don't got to check in Joe you got to check in say hi Joe don't got to check in I'm not in that business I say hi you've had him on here right yeah yeah he's a legend in the game he's a legend out of respect I say hi there you go yeah there you go so what is like yeah yeah how does a guy like him like I'm trying to think like how do you how do you navigate that to the point where people have this like respect and fear because of
what they assume you've done in the street world right but you're also operating legitimately yeah and nobody can get you they try they try well they tried with him many times and do you think they just give up I don't think they have anything they had something they would have brought it you know if they have something on a guy like that they try to get him that's the thing but he's clever oh he's he's a he's playing many levels he's like one of those dudes you ever see a chess tournament where a guy walks
in and there's 10 different players and he just walks and goes to each move and goes to the next board and makes a move goes to the next board makes a move and he beats everybody yeah yeah so where where does a guy like that learn that that's what I'm trying to understand streets streets yeah he he learns that you know I mean it's all about keeping people close yeah respect giving respect respect getting respect making sure that you know you cover all your statements yeah like if you say something you have to make sure
you do it you cover it 100% of the time and there's probably times in his life where he's went like if it's poker he probably went Allin a few times not in terms of money but like this decision makes or breaks me yeah I wonder how many make or break moments he's had well it depends on what's actually true what's not true in terms of accusations uh you know cuz uh if some of the accusations are true that kind of covers things you know when folks vanish when someone does Habra Kadabra see you later f
spish yeah yeah that's effective that Fe fear is effective man 100% yeah and it should be because listen all the [ __ ] that's going on right now in the world in America we get so soft and we think none of that shit's going to happen here all that murder War drones assassinations that's not going to happen here mhm unless you know the cleanse yes unless you know some [ __ ] yes unless you know some [ __ ] about old bill and then you wind up shooting yourself in the chest while hanging from an
extension cord wait did that happen oh yeah you don't know that guy shot himself in the Joe that seems really hard to do with a shotgun this is how do you do such a thing while you're hanging this is a guy that brought Epstein to the White House at least seven times what's his name uh we'll find out so they found him at a ranch 30 minutes from his house hanging by an electrical cord from a tree with a shotgun wound to the chest shotgun discovered near the body of former Clinton Aid Mark Middleton and
then they called it a suicide wow 12 gauge shotgun was 30 feet from the body of Mark Middleton was he found dead Okay so who who okay who orchestrates this is this is this the same thing where does does Clinton go hey this guy needs to go or do the powers that be around a powerful person go we already know what needs to happen well I think they know if a dude is in contact with someone or has been talking or is about to talk meaning cooperating with the feds or something I I don't think
any of those guys have clean phones I don't think any of those guys don't have their houses bugged I don't think any of those guys aren't tracked look how excited that guy's in the back yeah who the [ __ ] if you're a guy that brought Jeffrey Epstein to the [ __ ] white house to see Bill Clinton seven times and all this Epstein [ __ ] is going down and gala's in jail and you have information there there's people on both sides right there's the people on the right that are trying to nail the
people that are on the left with this there's people that are journalists that are trying to nail the people that were involved in this this is and they've managed to keep that [ __ ] list from coming out which show shows you how powerful certain people are that should show you a lot that should be terrifying the fact that galain Maxwell's in prison she's in prison for sex trafficking yet no one's been accused of buying any of that [ __ ] no one's been accused of having sex with these underage girls that she is in
jail for supplying yeah that is that is crazy that's crazy if you own a store and there's no items left yet nobody's purchased anything something's going on something's going on yeah so I guess what I'm trying to figure out is like people can go away I mean that's what that's what people were saying and maybe you know everybody's a conspiracy theorist now but that's what people are saying about the Diddy situation like when the D when the when the feds rolled up you know with the [ __ ] Hummers and [ __ ] they were
like it wasn't about Diddy it was about if there were tapes of powerful people there yeah oh I'm sure they were the ones that called they like I need to protect myself so go in there with all the things and rip any tapes or any evidence well Prince Harry was hanging with Diddy I mean everybody hung with Diddy that's the other tricky thing like Diddy hung out with everybody and I've spoken to a bunch of people who are like yo great dude like always there for you never asked for a single thing till 1 in
the morning and then freak off everybody says get out of the house yeah it's like the Gremlins start eating after Bai everybody who tells the story is like I saw go upstairs and these dudes are [ __ ] like right on the couch and then I go in this room and these guys are [ __ ] like yeah and Pros like apparently he was getting male [ __ ] to [ __ ] girls [ __ ] girls yeah that's the that was one of the rumors like the free go so he would hire the professional
dicks to have sex with the girls and I think he would watch allegedly that's that's what was alleged I think yeah it's a lot of crazy stuff going on and that's the other thing like I wonder like is that just a power thing it's a Caligula thing what does that mean Caligula like the the emperor did you ever see that movie movie Caligula it's about just Roman Empires being completely out of control Caligula is like almost like porn and it was a movie made I want to say in the 70s it's a crazy movie but
it's just it's just detailing extreme excess where you could never fill the hole but what what is the hole you need to fill like I'm trying to find like what's the cat chaos what year was this 79 79 yeah that's Malcolm McDow right uh looks like it yeah H yeah the dude from Clockwork Orange oh yeah yeah it's a crazy movie man it's still mild in comparison to what absolute have absolute power corrupts cig okay so then there's the question it's like can you take a completely normal person give them power and then they become
that or does it take a power hungry person that has this void that they need to be filled that needs to be filled and then when they are given that power you see the worst version of them ask your CIA boy I bet he's got the answers I bet knows the exact formula to corrupting somebody or to what happens like what happens to these people he went right in there oh Jesus Christ I remember I I got to La a day early and I was trying to like work out some like local stuff cuz sometimes
it's fun to just you know you're in a city like and I was I was at the store and I was bombing my ass off with local [ __ ] every local joke I tried to do just [ __ ] bombed and I was like what the [ __ ] am I going to talk about the Forum like everything I try and I thought that they were like aware that like the city was you know in a different state than it used to be and I'm trying to write all these jokes about like what's happened
to the city and people in La don't really feel the city's Chang that much that's like an outside perspective so I'm saying it and they're kind of laughing but they're like or they're aware and they don't want to admit it right and I remember we just I just in the green room I'm just like [ __ ] maybe the joke is about Diddy that's the only thing everybody's talking about that's that's it's on our minds that's what's happening yeah and then bro this is how funny 50 is I I'll share this Kenya yeah H I'll
tell you the full thing after but okay I got FaceTime from fit he's like he's like yo next time he goes he he go he goes yo next time I come see you bro I'mma come out on stage with a malti [Laughter] cat I'm like bro you're the craziest [ __ ] imagine him walking out on the show pet a [ __ ] cat so do you what do you think was going on with who me Meek and Diddy I don't think any I don't think Meek's gay I don't think anything's happened with them I
think that was just like a funny rumor that happened I even said that when I first did the meek joke I was like I don't think he's gay he just handled the accusations poorly yes like he just handled he said I love [ __ ] which who does that that's the gayest thing yeah it seems gay but I don't think he's gay but uh yeah yeah but that's just an unsophisticated approach to PR yeah like his PR team probably like hey maybe don't you got to do something yeah yeah who knows I mean he's probably
not Consulting with anybody if I had a guess nobody consults with you when something happens you just post whatever you want yeah yeah I don't have like a team yeah telling me they'll say that before the podcast that would be a problem yeah it would be it would yeah I would have never gotten anywhere yes yeah yeah we need you to not have a team actually