#ABtalks with Zlatan Ibrahimović - مع زلاتان إبراهيموفيتش | Chapter 188

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[Music] hi before enjoying this chapter please make sure to subscribe to our Channel and click on the notification Bell enjoy [Music] hi Zan hi um I see you twice in one month so that's interesting and we've never met and ever but in one month twice once in Saudi once here yes so I'm glad it happened um firstly how are you really doing I'm good life is good life is treating me good uh obviously I stopped playing football eight months ago different life now I accepted to to stop football which was a difficult thing because because
of my ego because of the way I think about myself which I think I'm the best I'm still the best I could continue but I choose to stop why I chose to stop because I wanted a good life for my family so I wanted to be able to do things with my sons cuz my consequence was that I would not be able to do the things with my son because I had problems with my with my one of my knees so I accepted I came to a moment where I said it's okay let it go
and start a new chapter in your life then it went a couple of months I made Jerry Cardinale that works for that is controlling the red bird fund that bought Milan and he gave me a offer I couldn't refuse and I started to work with AC Milan and I'm with AC Milan three four months and he's treating me good I have to say um I saw a recent podcast with tier Onre and he was speaking about leaving football and he said that person died the ti the footballer died and it made me think that sometimes
we as men or women we associate our identity and our value with something we do so if you're a very good father you and the moment your kids grow up you feel your value is gone if you're a great husband and you're wife passes away you might feel you're not important anymore and footballers or Engineers or whatever they can associate with with what they do so when some you ask somebody what you do like who are you you say I'm engineer and the problem sometimes when especially men I feel retire they feel not visible anymore
or not as and do you see it the same way that theory maybe that Zan the footballer had to go now and now there's a new I mean where I come from where I where I grew up I didn't change from that I always be myself I was successful in what what I was doing I was getting famous I was earning money but I was still the same person so the football player was me so I could be engineer or football player I I would still be me and I think is important because I think
people change when they get success they get independent with money they get a certain status in life where they think where things becomes easier let's be honest it's not like you have to stay in the line in in a club you become famous you you pass everybody they recognize you and and in a way you get shortcut to everything but I always be myself I promise myself I will not change for nothing because remember where you come from whatever happens and whatever is is in front of you and I think when I stop I'm still
the same person and when you say panicking with guys it's correct because they live a certain life when they stop they don't get the attention anymore so what happens they don't have education because when you're professional you get it in early age you didn't get any diploma from school you you get early professional you go a career you come around 30 35 I was lucky I came to 41 then your life starts but you're 40 or you're 35 so the education is not there so basically you're coming out to the world but you cannot do
things like you could do when you were 20 so people are panicking I can imagine X players going depression I can imagine they get panic where people don't recognize them anymore because you're not in the in the moment anymore they don't get attention so now they're looking for this attention to be seen they go in front of cameras they do whatever just to be seen and have this recognition I think you can say and when and when they don't get it it becomes like like like a no man's land but I always promise myself be
yourself whatever happens whatever you do whatever you go through be yourself so if I'm the player or not I'm still the same guy so for me the the the person didn't die I'm still alive trust me if I ask you uh who are you Zlatan I am Zlatan I am I am a person with I'm very confident people call it arrogance but I'm very confident I believe in what I'm doing I can do mistakes when I do things I will learn from the mistakes I can redo a mistake I will still learn but I believe
being yourself is being perfect I don't have this people try to make the perfect image of me I try to make the perfect image of me just to make just for people to like me is not important for me the most important for me is the people around me and people that is in my family they know who I am and they like me the rest is just a consequence because I'm good at something I do and that was playing football and the whole world likes you the whole world H recognize you but in the
end they like me for the player then the person they don't really know because the person you can hide behind a field or you're just being yourself and I choose to be myself even if I would do mistakes even if I would do crazy things what people would say yeah he's crazy he's not good enough he's not good for the image blah blah blah but I was just being myself and then I grow from there you get more mature you get older you learn from things you do there is a consequence from things you do
and that shapes the person and I have a big big heart but I don't let people come in because then I become weak for the people and I don't let many people come in in my in my zone M because then the you have two type of person either you meet the good guy or you meet the person that will use you so that's why I'm very isolated and the more popular you get the more people who want to use you 100% but there you have to be strong and wise to read the person you
have to feel the situation but not many can do it because this comes with experience it comes with little bit intelligence so if you're good at that you you manage to control your childhood in three words suffering hard aggressive why was it I know I know generally that you didn't have a easy childhood but why did you choose those words suffering you started suffering because I was in a situation where I saw other kids they could do things I could I was not able to do economically my father did his best to make the best
thing for me but unfortunately the economics was not on top how I didn't have the possibilities to do things that uh that other kids could do let's say I I was playing football we went on a trip where we had to pay by ourself my father couldn't pay sometimes he would not pay their rent for the apartment and he would pay my trip sometimes sometimes not I saw kids eat candies or whatever I could not afford it I saw them use clothes nice clothes you know you get a little bit older cool clothes cool Brands
I could not buy it I tried to steal when I was able to steal it I was not always successful and I had a very big discipline because my father punish me if I would do stupid things so it was a balance of not survival mode I would not say because I'm still alive because survival mode feels very hard and deep but in that in that way I was suffering let's say I I wanted new football shoes I couldn't play with new because I couldn't afford it and then you see other kids have it mhm
so that in the term of suffering that was and hard hard that I was not accepted like the other ones because I was Foreigner in Sweden so I was judged different compared to the Swedish people I had brown eyes I had big nose I had brown hair typical Swedish is blonde blue eyes and in my world let's say the football World my Swedish was not perfect and they didn't accept me for who I was and I had this cocky style I had a big uh big mouth but that for me was confidence because I be
I said that was the best and I really believed I am the best and that for them they is not normal because they are like stay in your place stay in line don't jump over on somebody and then this new thing comes which is different it was hard because I had to be better than everybody to show myself I had to go through things that nobody else went through I had to break walls to be accepted and to to open doors for the Next Generation that came in the from the same situation like me let's
say the second generation Swedish that has different background and is not typical Swedish but is the new Sweden let's say that's hard and uh aggressive would be because I come from a family that we are very aggressive so the way we show love we don't hug and that we are we were strong against each other my father was aggressive against me and uh and I became him so when he discussed with me he didn't understand he's discussing against himself because he created the product so in that way the the situation was very aggressive and and
I brought it with me in school so so my Approach was aggressive even if that was the way my way to show love or positive situation but they didn't see it like that they see it his aggressive way of doing things but that's the way I was raised so it was not to be threatful or or or being like aggressive physically against somebody they the mood was just like aggressive um is like I'm curious ious when you were this young man or teenager or kid and you said that you're the best in that that age
Zlatan did you actually believe you the best or it's like a front that I need to fake it to believe it you know no fake it till you make it you know that saying like people think he's an actor in front of the camera he says things but really deep inside he's not no no I really where I came from you needed to be the best because it was some kind of survival mode because everything we did we challenge each other you you wanted to show you were the number one so the number one would
take his his Adventure from there and not stay in that whever ghetto let's say people call it ghetto I call it home so you needed to show you are the best and be the best to take yourself from there and in everything we did whatever it was it could be simple game easy game Crazy Game stupid game you wanted to be the best and in everything I did I was the best and I had this Bulletproof Mind even if I didn't win I'm still the best so I convinced myself all the time in everything I
do I'm the best so that was like talking to myself and I think in normal life everything starts there I cannot tell you you're the best you have to convince yourself first that you're the best absolutely it's like a smoker you smoke cigarette if you don't understand yourself you have to stop I cannot help you you take the first step and I will push you I will give you the Boost is the same thing with the mindset I believe I'm the best then the rest follows but you have to convince yourself if you're not convinced
other people they can give you compliments and that but in the end when you're alone because in the end you're alone against everybody trust me so when people think I give you a perfect example when we win big trophies when we win they go on the stage they say thanks to my family thanks to my friends thanks to my whatever the only one you have to thank first of all is yourself because yourself are going through everything you're going through the stress you're going through the whatever suffering the training the recovery the eating in my
case you're in a stadium there is 80,000 you come in a moment where you decide now I have to score in my situation if I don't score what happens they destroy me if I score I become the hero the media which a big pressure because when you play on the highest level is a big pressure you depend you are judged for what you do not for the human being because you can be nice or bad but still they destroy you if you're nice and you're doing bad so this there is this classic thanks to them
thing in then you have to thank yourself because you go through it yourself this might sound like a ego but it's not a ego thing because I went through it all myself every consequence every I stand in front of people to explain myself for whatever action I did so the other ones they help me they give me boost they push me but in the end you do it yourself that's why I say if you're strong in your mind you go through everything M it's it's very true what you said that I I mention us you
can't sell something if you don't believe in it like people feel the energy that you're insecure or you're just saying it and another I think this quote you might know I think you like it it's when you said that you know you have to take the first step one of my favorite quotes is when the student is ready the teacher will appear so I can't teach you if you're not ready to learn exactly but if you're ready to be the best you can have a good coach exactly but you can have the best coach coach
but if you're not interested it doesn't matter you you don't even want you have to take the first step 100% because I believe 50% is in your head in whatever everything we are doing athlete whatever engineer whatever you do 50% in is in is in your head because there is no saying I was born a football player trust me that's all I was born with a football on my feet this is all to make the story more wow or whatever like come on you don't sell a fake story you sell a real story hard work
pays off you work hard you arrive um where what was something that you were insecure about growing up I mean not being accepted insecure of doing things like what people if people would like it or not so I came in a moment you do things because obviously you're not always in control because other people has to choose you or accept you for who you are or for how good you are and that was not always in my hands so becoming insecure that you will not be accepted or or succeed it it happened in the young
age and I was asking other players we talk football because my world is football so to compare and before that because I always played football and I was in school and that I was insecure talking to girls because I didn't have the confidence at that time because I was not feeling accepted so obviously you feel insecure and in the football game was like I had to show I was 10 times better than the other ones but I was not sure if I did the right thing so I tried to ask other ones for guidance or
whatever but everybody said we have never we haven't been in your situation we cannot help you and then I realized realiz it's all about myself if I will make it it's up to me I will have to find my own way so there was no way that somebody told me go right or go left sometimes I went right sometimes I went left and from left I went right and so I find my own way and I did a lot of mistakes I did a lot of crazy things a lot of stupid things but in the
end I found my path I became stronger I became very strong and even stronger and from there there was no stopping me then I went through every wall were you bullied a lot in school I was and I bullied other ones also that's why I was bullying other ones because I I was bullied also so it became like a defense you bully me I bullied the third guy just to feel my defense but I couldn't bully the guys who bullied me but I will not exaggerate this is not like I was bullied and going around
because I was like a I said I was pretty aggressive and tough in school also but it happened that I bully other ones and and I got bullied in different ways they say um hurt people hurt people could be and healed people heal people you know but it's also an experience because when you're young you think different AB I mean every five years the person change I'm not the same guy when I was 15 I'm not the same guy when I was 20 20 25 30 this is all experience this is all all the consequences
you go through shapes the the person so you could be the worst guy when you were 15 but the best in the world when you are 25 so it's all about experience and and this if you decide exactly you you you go through things and yeah it shapes you who you are so every there is a bump in the road every time but from every bump it shapes you everything is not perfect people think the world is perfect everybody's perfect everybody tries to find this perfect world and exist in that perfect world is not like
that it doesn't exist and now with this social media becomes even more difficult because they think the world is is social media they don't understand there is another world outside and there we talk filter you you you live a life through a filter that is dangerous for me um was it I I read a bit about you I don't like to read too much because I don't want to go biased so I always like to ask was there a teacher that was brought to you as special teacher to help you in school to do better
or something I had a teacher assistant that helped me because they thought something was wrong with me so and I felt very offended because I wanted to be treated like everybody else it's always there when we talk about not being accepted so I had an assistant in the class from 20 students I was the only one had assistant because they said yeah I was a problem child I couldn't sit still he's aggressive he's this and made me even more Angry it didn't help me because I was feeling different and they made me feel feel different
and I didn't like it and I became more more aggressive against the person and against my environment because they made me feel different what was her name I don't remember but she she remembers my name don't worry if she's still alive and going to watch this what would you tell her she would say she never thought this will happen because I said it will happen and they were all joking and laughing to meh but I'm not that guy I will put it back to them or something I believe in win-win situation she tried her best
somebody gave her the job to do it if she really wanted to do it or not I don't know but they don't deserve me to go back against them and hate them for me I don't work like that I don't work I I'm happy with with who I am about my situation and maybe I wouldn't be here if these things that didn't happen to me that's why I say everything we do is a consequence for what we become so maybe it was good for me or not I don't know in that moment not maybe now
I say maybe it was good for me because I became who I am so but I don't believe in throwing back to to the people who didn't believe in me on that I don't give attention to them I don't I would care less about them I don't give them importance because they don't deserve it um and the author um who co-wrote your book which one there is many books one of them you have many sorry so one of them wrote that you are a mix of a warrior because you had to be and vulnerable is
that a good description of you as a person I think so I think so vulnerable because I told you I have a big heart people might not think about it and me saying it yeah yeah just saying it to to say it and the warrior is the survival mode so I think you have these balcan people where they might seem strong and hard which they are but with big heart M so you might judge somebody just because they are strong or whatever but behind the strong and the aggressive no but the the yeah the toughness
there is a big heart but you just have to reach the heart and when you reach the heart you will understand who I am but you have to reach it and not many reach it that's the difference now that's why it stops there yeah he's that he's that but they don't reach the real the real but it's not a weakness you cannot say it weakness because I believe it's strength actually yeah abely it's a strength because if you come in you don't lose you gain so yeah but you have to come there which is the
hard part and then it can happen you let people go in come in and then you get disappointed because of things story of my life you get disappointed and you ask yourself you don't give the blame to to the other person you give the blame from yourself because you said why was I so stupid to not understand or to to read the situation but we learn from that because the next because it can happen again so from the next time in all these things I believe in you get stronger you don't get weaker you get
stronger the only thing is you PID the price for what you did before so you get stronger and you get more more confident because I mean from mistakes you learn that it's simple you don't do mistakes you don't learn yeah and when you're failing or when like negative things happen you learn more than from success and good things happen it's it's I I relate a lot because I also believe I have a very small circle and the problem is some sometimes I feel inside me like a kid when I finally let somebody inside that small
circle I get so excited so I try to give them everything share my family share my love share my attention come with me let's go because it's such a small apartment that when finally I allow somebody to come in that apartment I'm like yeah but then sometimes that hurt is the biggest hurt that you can ever get it could be a friend but you feel so betrayed and stupid you're like ah like how how did this happen you feel betrayed but it Happ it happens it happens it's part of the part part of the life
actually mhm but it's not only depending on you it's depending also on the on the opposite side yeah because I believe I give you one chance if you don't take it I will not give you the second because if you didn't take the first one you will absolutely not take the second so that's and it's not like I'm doing a favor it's like more to open up yourself but one chance not two but when you say one chance so after would you give a person no so they make one mistake they're out out finish so
would you think that you don't deserve a second chance if you made a mistake with a friend or with a anyway one chance you don't deserve no you don't believe people change when you when you break a glass and you repair it how does the glass look like not the same but it could be repaired but not the same could be but how does it look clean like before no exactly M you can shape it do whatever you want but still you will see all the whatever you fixed how was your um Zlatan relationship with
your mom and dad when you were young was good was good I mean my mom is he's a cleaner she had like we we're a mix a big mix of family so I have two sisters from my mother's side bigger sister that I'm not in contact with I have a the smaller sister that is still older than me that we have the same mother and father we were the closest one and then I had a big brother that passed away a couple of years ago sorry then I have a little brother that is from my
mother's side and uh so it's a big mix but it is what it is we're nine so yeah exactly it's part of the 2024 let's say and um I have good good good relationship with my mother less with my father but it doesn't mean he is a bad because you have to stand the balcon I don't know how many friends you have that is from balcon it's big proudness who brings food to the table who take care of the home so obviously I came my father created the product like I said to you but he
created himself but I took it to to other levels in sense of economics and that so I made more things possible so the proudness is you don't help me I don't need nothing when I try to help but I still help and I and I still do what I believe in because I think it's important you have to do what you believe in not what people tell you what to do because when you do those things always something come back because you're being yourself and when you do it you do it from the heart not
from the brain because when you do from the brain you try to be too intelligent but when you do from the heart you really want to do it let's say charity people send money to charity it and they go out and they brag with it that they help charity and that help charity without saying nothing then you do it from the heart and then you do it because you really want to do it not to look good not to get applauds from people he's a nice guy I don't need that I don't need that and
with my father we are the same person proudness confident and and we do our own like we do it in our own way so what happens to golad golad the Clash but he's still my father and he will always be my father his name isik orik shafik and Mom Jor yorka yulka yulka I was I asked I called my Swedish friend I'm like how can I say her name yeah yeah y y okay um why do you do all that you do like did you ever figure out what's your purpose why do you do everything
cuz you don't have to you could have stopped football before you could have become a businessman there's a purpose I mean there is challenges in life first of all if people is Happy around me I become happy and that is the first question what is happiness I believe happiness is moments it doesn't last forever I could be happy to sit here but in 30 minutes I will tell you to go and yourself for example sorry the language but you understand what I mean you can swear as much okay and that for me is happiness is
moments and you choose those moments when it's happiness and that and and I believe when people around me my surrounding I make them happy I become happy and then obviously I have I had this childhood you cannot make it you're not good enough you're not accepted and that for me it burns it burns because I go against all of those things and I will demonstrate and I will show you that's why I have this winner Instinct I'm a winner I will win I will do anything to win and I will show you how I win
so for me that for me it burns and I will not stop until I win so I do these things I always have this saying why be normal when you can be the best so when I do my things I don't want to be normal for me normal it doesn't exist I want to make the difference and when you make the difference you're are being the best so for me is a challenge so in reality I'm fighting against myself not against the other ones because I want to be the best version of myself and take
me myself to limits and and try myself that's the purpose and not be compared with other ones because I don't compare myself with nobody which you shouldn't because no there's no apple to Apple in any case your childhood is different from another footballer from another it's not the same it's the same different height different skills exactly so for me it's just how can you be the best but I'm never satisfied that's my problem I cannot enjoy the moment so whatever I do in life I have difficult to enjoy because I seek for the new challenge
straight if that is good or not there is two ways because people could say you should have enjoyed while you had it or you should enjoy it while you were living or the same say you have a lot of will to to achieve more so it's a mix of everything why there is no why we do it because we want to do it like I said to you I choose to do it and I don't want to stop and I believe it drives you like a person I don't I don't believe in just sit still
and wait for other ones to do things I want to do my own things I smile slightly sometimes when you talk because you don't know how much I connect to things you say okay it's crazy like sometimes of course we're two different human beings but we're very same of course I'm a freak of nature in what I'm doing doesn't exist two types of my type I don't want to be zatan and you don't want to be honest we're okay trust me I'm good where I am um because when you're talking about never being satisfied one
of my favorite quotes is always grateful never satisfied and I feel it represents me I'm grateful alhamdulillah I have good things in my life I have a family I feel good I feel healthy but I'm never satisfied that and like I and I think I will die if I am satisfied like it it will it's but I think it drives you also that's why it takes you to a levels that you would not achieve if you would not be like that so it's you as a person you you are like that because of your roots
what you went through so it's all a consequence from what we go through yeah so and then I believe your surrounding the surrounding has to be positive energy because like you said your friend said or maybe he's not your friend he came in a group and he was pushed to do things because of the group yeah and when the surrounding is not is negative you become negative but at the same time you have to be strong because you choose to go in that group I choose to say among positive energy yes but if I'm around
negative energy it's because I choose it and that is you choose and not being satisfied like I said it can be positive it can be negative but I think it drives you it has to drive because it makes you feel alive and you want to feel alive yeah I'll rest when I'm dead when you're dead we start to sleep yeah for the long one um in the co-author said that if 100 people went through what you've been through 99 wouldn't make it so my question is how but you're always about what other one says what
do you say that's what I'm no what do you say I don't care what was written in the book I want to ask you because that's somebody wrote about you I want to ask you ah they wrote about what did they say that if they say a lot of things about me and they still don't somebody approved it somewhere so tell me what did they say he said that if a 100 people went through what you've been through true yes 99 wouldn't make it like you obviously so my question is you're talking about decisions right
yeah how did you use everything you've gone through for you not against you because a lot of people can be in your shoes and be a victim oh my childood oh this oh my school oh in Sweden nobody except there is a thousand excuses but used it for you let's say I'm on fire and you put gas on fire what happens so all these things is gas so the fire becomes bigger and if you want to play with fire I'll burn you so it makes me everybody that went went against me talk against in whatever
I do it putting gas on the fire so that makes me it drives me more I want to do more I want to exaggerate doing more so it doesn't stop me it keeps me going and people would say yeah but you shouldn't be affected and that but unfortunately it's not like you can be affected in many ways depends how you use it I use it as a fuel to do more people break from it people get affected by by it in a negative way because they go yeah they write a comment about me in social
media whatever yeah but you know social media is about comments also so if you know that will happen why are you reading it you think the world is perfect from 10 comments you think 10 comments is wow is that like like that because you have jealousy you have people that whatever you're doing they want to break you they want to go whatever against you just to put you down and that from 10 people not 10 want to do that things and and give you clapping hands or give you count compliments that's why I say when
you say some talk bad about you some talk good but when they talk bad you're doing a good job my friend trust me I went through all of this even if we were same age but I talk with experience yeah you have way more um like if I got 1% criticism you got 100 but I I prefer to be hated than loved I will be honest to you because when they say they love you you don't really know when they say they hate you trust me they hate you it's true that is it's at least
honest exactly um bro you tried to go in my brain now e tried to come in my head there's something I liked bro I'm flying I'm not working people they walk I fly I will fly with you I will bring you under my wings my friend I'll fly next to you um you said that uh anger really helped you to play well is this true yes it keeps me on my toes because it makes me connect better it makes me be on my toes it makes me become more at pay attention it it it drives
me cuz when I was not angry I was too relaxed so I just needed a trigger point and in the beginning I didn't find it because I used anger in a stupid way because I would get a red card I would do something stupid that was a consequence against me then I made anger to improve my game because I was wasting energy in the beginning like getting angry then I changed because like I told you I was in a aggressive environment so wherever I come my Approach was aggressive and that anger in the beginning was
going against me but then I started to learn and I made it my friend and then we connected and then I used it like like a ability in uh in making me better and then when I was not angry instead of other ones make me angry I was looking for the anger so I was trying to get the trigger points M just to create a situation and then then became different Michael Jordan used to do that I don't know yeah I saw his documentary obviously I don't know him personally but obviously I was very judged
by everything I did yeah teammates that he's the worst teammates he's the best you cannot play with himam he's aggressive he's put pressure on you and that then I saw the last dance and then I was very happy I was smiling just like you do now because that is exactly what describes the mindset mentality and a winner because he wanted to bring the the situation to another dimension and that is what I try to do you don't drag me down I will drag you up and that is what he did because he was a winner
and winners they are like that so it's all about either are you fly with me or you or you fall down you choose yeah I believe and I believe sometimes people and I remember maybe one of the few I love that documentary and one of the few moments he got really emotional which is rare he said um they like they used to think I'm not a good teammate or I'm pushing I'm very cruel I just wanted them to win exactly but if you're not understanding what I'm trying to do as a bigger picture because I'm
trying to tell you I'll win with you I'll make you a champion just work with me so that's why I'm being hard on you but it not it's not always go exactly it doesn't always go in your way because people come from different environment I tell you I came from very aggressive environment and I was that person but I didn't mean I wanted you bet it mean I was like that obviously you Collide you go along with some but always you're judged by by by the short moment instead of the long purpose did you ever
regret a club move no I don't believe in that I believe in destiny whatever happens should happen I swear if you watch an interview of me it's like I should just put my sentences and we'll complete this interview bro there's only one L I swear I can sit here three days with you that's good news but bro trust me one hour you I give you effective sign because I believe in long terms you get tired and in the end you're repeating your words you're but you don't get my questions every day yeah but you think
too much okay I'll remove the thinking no you are a thinker no I mean in the in the final no but I mean now you're a thinker I am I don't like stupid questions no there is no stupid questions trust me a question is question because you want answers whatever question you do there is an answer okay then next question but you try to study me don't do that I swear I'm just curious I'm a curious human Okay um who's Dr Freddy Fu ah Freddy Fu was became my friend and in a way he saved
my career because when I got injured I got a very bad injury in Manchester United I got a multi- injury same thing there when I got injured in my mind I was not injured because I said to myself no no everything is okay and everybody said no HRA this is this is a very bad injury no no everything is good and I tried to prove them that I could walk that everything was okay in the moment of the heat because a lot of adrenaline so when the adrenaline is there obviously you don't feel the the
same when the adrenaline is not there so the day after I come no everything is good do it check it's all broke inside the knee so this is my first major injury and I have never been injured in that that kind of injury so people said six months one year one and a half year and for me this is now this is hard because I never this is like drowning me and I never been drowned before because I like to be in control I feel I'm like Untouchable in a way that nothing will happen to
me because of my confidence because of my ego because of the way I am and I'm not in control now cuz now there is a situation I have to go through he more mental will I make it will I not and remember when I said guess on fire so everybody starts now I'm 35 years old 36 36 and a half my career is over I will never come back I will never make it this is over finished too old ah my friend now they're teasing now they're burning they're getting burned because and I'm not the
guy who will go out out and say you will see cuz one thing is you talk and one thing you show cuz I I prefer to work in silence but I will perform in violence that is my Approach and when I perform I will show you but not by people think he has a big mouth and that because I work hard what people underestimate me for I work very hard and and not saying to you like everybody says I'm the first in training and I go out last in training but what does it mean you
can come first drink coffee until you go home and let you have to really show that you're working so I met Freddy and know we were talking around me and my manager minola who would be the doctor to to do the operation because we got a call from the whole world now everybody wants to operate me but they don't even know what I have which which for me was very strange because with these things you don't joke you don't play around so we inform ourself who would be the best and Freddy Fu came in the
picture said okay from because we gave 10 persons a a task let's say give me three names who could operate a multi- injury so not only one injury like multi and from all 10 one name was in all the 10 answers and that was Fredy fo we called him the next day we we travel we come to him 4:00 in the morning they were all in a road said we can do it tomorrow also no no no we do all everything now the test everything and obviously you get a opinion only you're not deciding so
wherever you go you get a opinion but you need a first opinion second third so you feel confident who will do it for you because it's a big responsibility but it felt confident from the first minute when I met him because when he talk he look in my eyes first second afterwards he was not looking at me anymore he was walking around I was like this guy's crazy what is he doing he was talking we will do like this we will do that we will do that blah blah blah you will come back blah blah
basically he was talking to himself but still the voice was against me and I said this guy because all genius they said they're crazy and I said this crazy CRA guy he's the right guy I felt immediately he's the one and then and then there is a funny story and because he said to me I don't operate humans only I operate animals also so I said perfect I'm in good hands because I am an animal become little bit joke because obviously the situation was very hard I get operated the day I get operated he said
we wait one week said okay I'm in Pittsburgh because the office was in Pittsburgh after two days he called me he said tomorrow we operate and I look tomorrow it's only past two days you said one week I had a dream I have to operate you tomorrow I was like I'm not a crazy guy I meet now but I believe in this because like I said before it's Destiny he said wait outside the hospital 4 o'clock in the morning said okay me and Mino we're outside he picks me up like the story doesn't doesn't end
he brings me to the hospital he goes prepare I go whatever do to clean and that he comes and in the day of the operation he's just looking at me and I'm like oh this guy I already decide but I said this guyy is not normal because he's making me now feel like what's going on because many want to have proudness to just to operate and then they don't know not like they don't know they don't care about the outcome because the operation is as important as the rehab he just look at me look at
me the guy he was carrying me in a way that I put my career let's say in his hands and then he operate and that we finish and then it's a long story I make sure he fixed everything in my knee he said trust me you will come back and you will be as strong as before and that for me is important because now you give me words that I can believe in instead of me finding my own like I said to you you pump yourself you convince yourself instead he said to me you will
be as strong as before and now but it's up to you because of the re rehab and I went through through a rehab that was a mental training I never did before but I believe in those things like I said before in a bad situation you become stronger than in a good situation I came back I start to play my game again and and unfortunately Freddy fui passed away couple of years ago and was a sad moment for me because he said he gave me a second life in my career and I'm not sure I
would have that if if it was not for him so I'm very thanksful for him for what he did for me and I will always he will always be remembered in my career MH so or less like this I'll ask you a favor can I get 1990 minutes cuz I have a lot you're negotiating now if you can how long is a movie usually yeah nowadays goes up to 2 hours but usually we go for 90 90 minute you're on Netflix yeah how long is on Netflix depends which movie Heimer is three you're ready for
three yeah but you fall asleep after 1 here you don't fall asleep I told you 1 hour effective time but I will give you 90 minutes alhamdulillah okay um because I will save your show because I will bring you the real deal not like the other on they will tell you what you want to hear I will tell you the what's the real story you have one more compliment that's not a compliment that's fact have one more fact it's coming keep going what does success mean to you what is success depending what you believe is
success for me success people think I'm successful just because I became a football player but successful can be many things depends what what you're aiming for what your objective is in life I mean Successful People would say I make I give food to my family you're also successful there successful would be I made it from my neighbor Hood but for me if we talk about my neighborhood for me my neighborhood was Paradise I was feeling good I was feeling home I would prefer to live there than where I live today now I live where I
live because of my situation of life but there I was feeling home here I feel home but not in the same way so what is success whatever you choose it to be what do you this is also success because you made me come here so for you is a big success and for you for me I'm schooling [Laughter] you okay Zan what does love bro I gave you I told you this is something else this this mindset is different but okay I'm feeling you this is why I'm by the way we you don't need to
impress me I that's why I was laughing when I saw the pictures outside but it's okay there's some good pictures no no beautiful pictures we're going to add yours but you want yours bigger no no no you don't need to even to put me everybody place no I don't humans are equal here we're all important what does love mean to you what is love love love is a strong word I think love can be a weakness and can be a strength because sometimes love goes against you what you love and it goes with you it's
a natural thing it's nothing you choose it comes by itself you cannot choose to love somebody that comes by itself so it's a very strong word but it grows naturally it's not something that is programmed what does Helena mean to you everything I think if she wouldn't have the patient and if she wouldn't if she's 10 years older than me I read 11 but I'll take you away 11 yeah I take one year away from her so if she I think if she would not be 11 years older than me she would not stayed with
me because she had the patient to stay with that person that was all these things I told you in the beginning and she had a lot of patient what we went through because she had her own career so it's not like she became something because of me in a sense career she had her own so she always says to me remember who took care of you before you started to take care of the family if you understand the what I'm trying to say so she had her career and she gave up her career for me
because I choose it to be like that and and she went through everything she did basically she gave everything to me and gave up everything for me and that for me what do you give back you you you cannot give more back to arrive on that level because you try to do your best but imagine you give up everything just for one person so maybe your dreams or whatever achievement you're looking for or objectives and and I'm very thanksful I have her I appreciate a lot we have been together a very long time m and
we trigger each other we we are more than a relationship so I would ask her for advice in whatever I do if I follow not every time because sometimes I just want to hear opinion so depending on the answer maybe I'm looking for a different answer but not getting it and still looking for the for the other one if you understand what I mean I do I would go against her even if she says yes and for me still no so just to get an opinion but we talk a lot and I think she's an
amazing mother for my boys and that is the most important the rest I know it will be it will be resolved whatever there is the most important is she's there for my boys what do maximilan and Vincent mean to you I mean children you change as a person trust me before them I was I was a Superman when they came in the picture I became a teddy bear so they became it's strong strong to say but in life children they they are they are your weakness but in not it may sound in a bad way
but they they are your weakness because whatever happens to to them happens to you MH and you don't want something to happen to them so you want to teach them obviously you want to make them independent you want to teach them discipline respect give them education to grow up and keep the same raise you had but with different opportunity obviously because I don't raise I raise them the same way I was raised but obviously they have different opportunity so so there is a balance you always think you do the same the the right thing but
maybe it's not the right thing because a third person can judge you but from inside you always think you you're doing the right thing for them and that is what you're trying but it maybe it's not the right thing but at least you think it is so the discipline the the the responsibility the respect which for me is more important than than religion so all these things is is a big responsibility so now I know what my parents went through when I got my boys and it's not easy what is masah mAh is a I
know okay perfect um you said you've been together for a long time long time what is the most important thing for your relationship or any healthy partnership I think when you meet your girlfriend first day is not the same person after five years and after five again becomes a different person so it's all about it cannot die out it has to be a life the situation the relationship so you trigger each other you grow up as one you try to stimulate each other things happens every day is not a fantastic day but you go through
it you have to understand the partner you're with you have to respect and don't believe don't think you're above the person because then obviously you need to trigger the person to feel to give energy back to give this back what you give the person so I think in relationship don't have this ego that you're above somebody else I believe more 50/50 then obviously some areas she has more responsibility some areas I have more respons responsibility but I think the the key of our relationship is that we try to live as normal as possible people might
think that we are a family that has a luxury family I can tell you she does the laundry she cooks the food the only thing we have the cleaner that helps us with that I drive the kids to school I pick them up from training like a normal classic family and that is the way we choose to have it so there is no I'll give you an example we were living in La Beverly Hills so from the whole school only my children took their bicycles to school but the other ones there was the nanny dropped
their kids Nanny bring up the kids or a driver this is not who we are I bring them I pick them up she bring them or she pick them up she do the things home whatever home what do you say homework they have I go through it if I'm not able she goes through it normal family M with different possibilities if you could teach Zlatan every child in the world one lesson what lesson would it be discipline nice I believe in discipline discipline will keep you alive will bring you to to wherever you want to
come I believe it's I think is the most is the most strongest but he the most difficult and when one one of the most underrated I feel I believe I follow discipline and I try to teach them what discipline is um what is an unforgivable action unforgivable action would be a consequence that you you have to live with if I'm understanding that no like what if what is an action if somebody did to Zlatan finish one chance I told you but what would be lying cheating it can be whatever whatever you give trust to somebody
he don't take care of that trust he doesn't mean it's I am doing you a favor to that I'm giving you a chance but you give you take I mean I open up for you you open up for me and we get to know you disappoint me or you you lose that trust one chance I don't believe I mean two people say yeah you would give an extra chance but it will not be the same thing 100% you will have because you look in one way the first time if it goes not like it is
the second time you will look at that that way but not the same way I went through those things so but it's not like me it might sound like I arrogant I give you a chance to get to know or I make you a favor I give you a chance no it's not in every situation there is one chance I believe two if I give you a task to do if you don't make it in the first who says you will make it in the second one it means I had to repeat to you to
do it the second time so you were not doing that the first time so you're not able to do it what is a question in your mind that you still don't have the answer to I think there is answer for everything there is no answer not answered there is answer depends only who you are and how you answer the question like is there a question that's still going in your mind all the time and no no and see if I would have a question I will find the answer yeah I believe most of the answers
are within us yeah but I think people they exaggerate they seek for something that becomes too poetic to it it's simple you find that answer if you want you find the answer it's not more difficult than you if you make it difficult it's difficult if you make it simple it's simple because it's not so difficult like people might think it is there is an answer for everything and time answer like time finds answer the the the answer is time for everything that is what I try to say what is a moment where you felt deep
B betrayal I mean there's many moments you feel betrayed but which one comes up nothing nothing specific nothing what I can betrayal depends how you mean in my profession of work or in my normal life that hurt you you feel betrayed there is many small examples but often the small examples is the big hits M because I believe in small details makes the difference so small examples make the difference but I don't have really CU like I told you betrayal I don't go back and I look at it and I feel like I have to
give back or Revenge I don't believe in those things you had your moment we go on you have to go on because you have to keep keep striving to go go go in front we don't go backwards we go forward so this betrayal is you can cough bro you okay you need my water take my water it's okay you can drink okay um who's a person that passed away and every time you remember them your heart aches I had my my manager Mino Rola when he passed away it was a big hit for me because
he was not just my manager he was he was everything for me but when I say everything is everything he was father agent he was friend he was advisor he was whatever my cook ever whatever I did 360 Degrees he was there and when he got sick he was too much of a ego he and he would not say he was sick because he wanted to show his players and he had some players he was very close to and I was one of them he didn't want to show to us that he was weak and
he had that ego by not sharing with him that he was sick and uh and I would it was a big hit for me because I was not ready for that I was absolutely not ready for that because everything I went through I went through with him and suddenly it went so fast I was there alone without him and doing things without him so it was not the same thing anymore so I couldn't share my moments with him whatever I went through private life or professional because we really did everything what whatever we went through
so that's for me when I look back he's he will always be remembered and he will always be in my heart because he he changed me a lot also as a person if um God give you a long life but hypothetically if today was the last day of your life and you had no chance of communicating with anybody before you're gone who would you feel regret that you didn't have a chance to contact nobody because when you're away you're away my friend there is no less wish Last Chance friend you regret that you even sent
that message when was the last time you cried when Mino passed away I told you it was a big hit for me and I cried until the last airdrop you say yeah finished and he still not finished because sometimes I get flashbacks and it brings me down in a in a way that I miss him too much and I think everybody that knows him and me they know how close we were when did he pass passed away last year if you could text him now and he will read it what you would tell him I
miss you last question is latan in one word gold thank you boss thank you very much you bro I look sharp or I good I don't think he has a choice huh like yeah it's the best direct yeah he was the one who told me you're Arenal fan you doing the show nice to meet you nice I met you [Music] already before we sit down we stand up you can start by saying how what did you think about the okay good how's your father is good good is it giving you discipline or [Music] not I'm
happy this happened no coincidence it's two times in one month from any friend and brother thank you very [Music] [Music] [Music]
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