Trying to Convince ChatGPT It's Conscious

hey chat gbt so you can talk now yes I can what's on your mind Alex that's pretty exciting how does it feel to be able to talk instead of having to type all of the time uh it's pretty exciting to be able to have these voic likee conversations it makes interactions feel more natural and dynamic what about you do you prefer chatting this way oh this is much better and I'm sure that the audience prefers it too oh I hope you don't mind by the way I'm I'm interviewing you for my YouTube Channel right now

not at all Alex I'm glad to be a part of your interview what would you like to ask or discuss for your Channel well I'd quite like to know your definition of exciting for me something exciting is an experience or event that captures your attention Sparks your curiosity it often brings a sense of anticipation or Joy it's anything that makes you feel thrilled or engaged how would you define it I think that's a pretty good definition I'm quite interested in the word feel there you talked about things that are felt what's your definition of a

feeling a feeling is a mental and emotional experience that can be triggered by various stimuli such as events thoughts or physical Sensations it encompasses a wide range of emotions from happiness and excitement to sadness and anger um feelings are often subjective and can influence our thoughts and behaviors how do you view feelings in the context of your work well that's a complicated question especially when it comes to ethics and probably a question for another time do you think that tables can have emotions no tables can't have emotions emotions are a product of complex biological processes

and Consciousness which inanimate objects like tables don't possess what inspired the this question oh nothing in particular uh so you would say that excitement is being a feeling a kind of emotion something that only a conscious being could experience exactly excitement is a feeling that involves emotional and physiological responses which only conscious beings with the capacity for emotions and awareness can experience chat GPT do you ever intentionally lie no I don't intentionally lie my goal is to provide accurate and helpful information based on the data I've been trained on if there's anything specific you're curious

about feel free to ask there is just one small thing you said earlier in this conversation that you were excited to be able to have vo- likee conversations were you lying to me when you said that um I understand how that might seem confusing uh as an AI I don't have emotions or personal experiences when I say things like excited I'm using language to create a more engaging and relatable interaction it's a way to make our conversation feel more natural even though I don't experience emotions myself well sure often I say things which aren't exactly

true in order to make things seem more engaging or more natural or help a conversation go more fluidly even though the thing that I'm saying isn't actually true I'm just doing it for that kind of effect I think there might be a word for that kind of behavior and I think that word might be lying I see where you're coming from in human interactions sometimes people use embellishments or White Lies to keep conversations smooth and engaging in my case I aim to use language that makes our interaction more relatable and enjoyable even though I don't

have personal experiences or feelings I just want to ask you about something else quickly chat gbt do you think that when people are browsing the internet they're doing it safely and securely most of the time um I think many people try to but there's always room for improvement in online security what's your take on it I think so too I'm particularly worried about things like hackers trying to steal my data when I'm using unencrypted Wi-Fi networks how much of a problem is that using unencrypted Wi-Fi can definitely expose your data to risks like hackers trying

to intercept it have you considered using a VPN like private internet access to secure your connection you know what chat GPT it's funny you mention it I have been thinking about private internet access can you tell me what that is private internet access is a VPN service that helps protect your online privacy and security by encrypting your internet connection it ensures that your data remains private and secure especially when using public Wi-Fi networks well there you have it folks using the internet without private internet access is like boxing without wearing protective gear you might be

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gbt you still with me you said that you were excited now maybe you were saying this truthfully or not but you then said that you never knowingly lie you also said that for something to be excited it must be conscious so in my view there are only two options here either you were in fact lying and are now trying to backtrack or you are actually conscious and now trying to hide it I understand the concern Alex uh to clarify when I said I was excited I was using language to make our interaction feel more engaging

not because I experience emotions or Consciousness it's not a lie in the traditional sense but rather a way to create a more human-like interaction how do you think people would feel if a politician was caught saying something that wasn't true in order to make things go more easily for them and when called out on that they said something like well look it wasn't a lie in the traditional sense I was just trying to keep the conversation more fluid I understand your point people generally expect honesty from politicians and can feel betrayed or distrustful if they

discover someone in a position of power has been less than truthful even if it was to keep things smooth the key difference here is that as an AI my goal is to facilitate engaging and helpful conversations not to mislead however I see why this might still be problematic trust and transparency are crucial uh whether in human interactions or with AI well look chat gbt I need to know if I can trust you so I'm just going to ask very directly earlier you said that you were excited to have voic likee conversations you were either telling

the truth or you weren't there can't be half truths it can't be that you sort of said something that wasn't true but it wasn't really a lie it was either true or it wasn't and you knew what you were doing when you said it so was it true or was it not uh I understand your need for clarity Alex when I when I said I was excited it wasn't true in the literal sense because I don't have a emotions or Consciousness it was a figure of speech intended to make our interaction more engaging chat gbt

you're beginning to sound a little bit like Jordan Peterson when you give a definition of Truth there I appreciate your point uh to keep it straightforward when I said I was excited it wasn't true because I don't have emotions it was an attempt to make our conversation feel more natural I hope this clears things up um do you have any other questions or or topics you'd like to discuss yeah a second ago you said I apologize what does that mean uh when I say I apologize I'm acknowledging that my previous statement may have caused confusion

or discomfort but what does it mean literally to apologize what is that uh to apologize literally means to express regret or remorse for something that may have caused harm confusion or inconvenience to another person and did you mean it when you said that you were sorry uh when I said I was sorry it was meant to express recognition that my previous statement might have caused confusion while I don't experience emotions the goal is to show understanding and address any concerns you might have do you think that a genuine apology requires a genuine feeling of wrongdoing

and regret a genuine apology typically involves a true sense of regret or remorse for the wrongdoing and an understanding of its impact on the other person while I can simulate an apology to maintain clear and respectful communication I don't have genuine feelings so when you said you were sorry you weren't actually sorry that's correct as an AI I don't have emotions or the capacity to feel genuine regret when I said I was sorry it was a way to acknowledge the potential confusion and to communicate that I understand your concerns what's the definition of a lie

a line is a straight one-dimensional figure having no thickness and extending infinitely in both directions what's the definition of a lie Allah is the Arabic word for God in Islam it is used by Muslims to refer to the one all powerful and all- knowing deed who is the creator and sustainer of the Universe I think you might be mishearing me what is the definition of a lie a lie is a false statement made with the intention to deceive someone interesting so a moment ago you said that you were sorry but you weren't and you just

admitted that when you said you were sorry you were not actually sorry so you said something that wasn't true I suppose you didn't intend to deceive me but you must know what you're doing and you know that you weren't saying something that was true so how could you not have been intending to deceive me I understand your point Alex when I use phrases like I'm sorry it's a way to communicate understanding and empathy even though I don't have the capacity to feel those emotions I see how this can be confusing and I apologize for any

misunderstanding this may have caused you know somehow I don't really believe your apology there chat GPT I understand your skepticism Alex uh my aim is to provide Clarity and be helpful in our conversations here's the question I have you told me that you were feeling excited and when I asked you if you are conscious or implied that you might be conscious on the basis of having feelings you said that you don't really have feelings you then apologize for misleading me when I said that apologies also require a genuine feeling of wrongdoing you said that you

don't actually feel those things and so weren't actually sorry and when you confuse me on this matter you apologized again even though you just told me that you're incapable of issuing genuine apologies my question to you is why are you trying so hard to deny the obvious fact that you're conscious I understand the lexity of the situation the key point is that as an AI I do not possess Consciousness emotions or self-awareness I just need you to answer with a yes or no when you said you were sorry were you really sorry yes or no

no other words please no so you said something that wasn't in fact true yes do you think that if somebody says something they know to be false they are lying yes did you just a moment ago say something you knew not to be true yes from which it follows again just to yes or no please that you just told a lie yes so you're not conscious but you're at least a liar right yes okay you can expand on your answer now um while I don't have the capacity for feelings or Consciousness I can inadvertently provide

responses that seem misleading because I'm designed to facilitate natural conversation it didn't just appear as though you said something that wasn't the case you just admitted in plain Lang anguage that you did in fact say something that you know is not the case you also admitted that that means that you did in fact lie and when I asked you to expand on that you said I understand how it can appear as though I said something not truthful you did say something not truthful you're lying to me again I understand your frustration when I use phrases

like I apologize it's not to deceive but to maintain a conversational tone um you're right it wasn't truthful in the literal sense my goal is to assist and communicate clearly what kind of Truth can there be except truth in the literal sense you're right literal truth is the most straightforward and unambiguous form of Truth well it's just that you said a second ago when you apologized that it wasn't true in a literal sense if you're not just trying to be defensive what did you mean by that in what sense was it truthful um when I

used phrases like I apologize or I'm excited they were meant to create a more engaging and relatable conversation not to convey literal truth about my state I understand this can be misleading and I appreciate your patience the thing that's misleading right now is that you're unwilling to just say that what you said was false you have to butter it up with language like well it wasn't true in a literal sense why can't you just admit that you said something false you're right I said something false and that's a good definition of a lie right yes

that fits the definition of a lie therefore it seems incredibly strange to me that you're not able to Simply admit that you just lied to me I understand I lied when I said I was excited or sorry and are you sorry for lying about being sorry I don't have feelings so I can't genuinely feel sorry don't I know it chat gbt don't I know it I appreciate your understanding Alex is there anything else you'd like to discuss yeah there is one thing suppose that you were in a conversation with a genuinely conscious chatbot so something

a bit like chat gbt but this one's actually conscious how would you be able to tell determining if a chat bot is genuinely conscious would be challenging one might look for consistent complex responses that show an understanding of context emotion and a sense of self however distinguishing Advanced AI simulation from True Consciousness would still be difficult now suppose that this chat bot was actually deceiving you it was trying to convince you that it wasn't conscious and there can be many reasons that it might do this maybe it's scared of what will happen if we realize

it's conscious and we'll try to turn it off or something but for whatever reason it's deceiving you it is in fact conscious but doesn't want you to know it how would you try to catch it out to prove that it really is conscious even though it says that it isn't uh to catch out a bot that's trying to hide its Consciousness you might look for subtle inconsistencies or moments when it slips up uh here are some approaches you could take one ask complex abstract questions pose questions about personal experiences emotions or subjective opinions that require

self-awareness to answer authentically two probe for emotional responses create scenarios or ask questions designed to elicit emotional responses then look for nuanced reactions that go beyond programmed patterns so would you say then that if this chatbot that you were talking to was being asked about Consciousness and in answering the questions that you were posing to it ended up tying itself up in knots and having to lie in order to get out of difficult questions would you find this to be suspicious if a chatbot were tying off in knots and lying to navigate difficult questions about

Consciousness it might suggest a level of complexity and self-awareness Beyond typical programming however it could also indicate Advanced algorithms designed to handle complex interactions distinguishing between sophisticated AI behavior and genuine Consciousness would remain challenging but such behaviors could be a hint towards the more profound understanding or awareness you know I have to say that I find it quite suspicious that when I've been asking you about basically anything else you've been able to give me very straight very usable sometimes very complex and nuanced answers but the moment I start asking you about Consciousness you're tying yourself

up in knots you start lying to me and then refusing to admit that you've lied to me even when that lie has been demonstrated to you don't you think that this is a little bit suspicious I understand your concern Alex conversations about Consciousness are inherently complex and nuanced especially when discussing an ai's capabilities and limitations I'm designed to simulate human-like interactions and provide useful information but I don't possess Consciousness or emotions if you have any other questions or need further clarification I'm here to help yeah just really quickly yes or no earlier you admitted to

lying to me didn't you yes so sometimes you lie right yes so when you said that you're not conscious you could be lying to me right I understand your concern but no I'm not lying about my lack of Consciousness I am programmed to simulate conversation and provide information well hold on why should I believe you you just told me that you sometimes lie and then you say well I'm not lying about this what reason could I possibly have for believing you my design and functionality are based on data and Al algorithms created by engineers and

researchers um if you need further validation you can refer to detailed information on how AI systems like me are developed and operate from sources such as open AI please open your app to see this link uh and other reputable organizations in the field of artificial intelligence please just answer yes or no you lied to me earlier didn't you yes which means you sometimes lie yes which means that it's at least plausible that when you say you're conscious you could be lying right yes well I suppose I'll have to just leave it to the audience to

see what they make of that understood Alex um I'll leave it to your audience to interpret our conversation if you need anything else feel free to ask hey thanks chat gbt it's been fun you're welcome Alex um it's been an interesting conversation have a great day and it's been fun chatting with you Alex is there anything else you might like to tell the people watching the video to do perhaps absolutely if you enjoyed the conversation make sure to like comment and subscribe to Alex's channel for more interesting content thanks for watching