Joe Rogan Experience #2207 - Shawn Ryan

Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan podcast by night all day what's upine all right man how's it going nice to meet you nice to meet you I really enjoy your show it's uh it's very different like uh I was uh like when I first started watching I was like oh this guy's [ __ ] interviewing all kinds of crazy people like I like you like a a Navy SEAL Art Bell it's it's kind of cool man you know like because like you you go out there with

people like that one dude that was saying there's direct energy weapons in Antarctica you letting that go guy go out he's going out on a long ass Pier oh yeah Eric Hecker all those stories are so crazy I was just finishing is it John Alexander is that the gentleman that worked with like uaps and unidentified phenomenon and done it all he's done fascinating he done it all fascinating all the way back to Vietnam right yeah yeah that guy what a crazy story man you imagine being involved in that kind of [ __ ] I don't

how much do you believe it though like it's like when I hear the UFO stuff there's a part of my brain that's like don't get suckered into this this shit's nonsense there's something that it just feels like so like if they told me a super volcano was going to erupt I believe it super volcano is definitely real and there's a historical precedent they've ruined civilizations they tell me that there's UFOs and part of me is just like I don't [ __ ] believe you yeah you know what I mean yeah I know you know I

mean I you know what bothers me about the whole Camp is nobody none of these camps like talk to each other right it's it's my Camp knows everything isn't that always the case though that's the case in the military often right oh yeah I was going to compare it to special office that guy doesn't know [ __ ] I know every you know that's uh that's kind of how when I was really young I was like 24 I was dating this girl that was uh she did something in government and she was explaining to me

so this is pre- interne is you know like people didn't have the internet then it's like early 90s right and she said that she she one of her jobs was to make sure that information that the the Navy had received would be available to the Army so like you have to make sure people aren't running redundant tests like we already did this we'll get you this information so there was like some sort of a database in like these computer terminals where she could share information and uh she had some sort of top clearance and one

day like just [ __ ] around she wrote Little Green Men in in the search function and her computer got shut down and then people visited her and they asked her like what are you doing doing like why did you why did you look this up like what is this all about and I think she wound up either getting fired or transferred to some other position or lost whatever clearance that she had interesting I've not heard that one when I was young I was like Wow aliens were real but as an older man now looking

back on her go well maybe what she was doing was inappropriate for her job like maybe what she was doing was demonstrating that she couldn't be trusted because she's doing something that's not there was no request to look up little green men it was like she she did it on her own is this 100% factual hard to tell you know hard to tell because it was a girl I dated I don't I don't really know oh you dated her yeah dated her yeah this is yeah like like I said early 90s I was living in

New York I had actually dated her in Boston then we met up again in New York a couple years later so she was telling me about her job and then she was telling me like check this out I shouldn't be telling you this but here but part back then I was all in on UFOs I was like wow youu is real but as an older man I look back and go well if you have some kid you know she was basically my age she's probably 24 as well and you're having this kid work in these

terminals that has access to top secret information and they have clearance I would say hey maybe you shouldn't be just looking up [ __ ] randomly yeah you know like we can't have this kid we can't trust this kid you know it doesn't seem like everything's so compartmentalized in govern and especially at the at that kind of classified whatever security clearance level I mean there's whatever I I didn't get that high up but I've not seen like a database where you can just look anything up like oh [ __ ] who killed uh who killed

up JFK right let's look that up real quick you know it's it's it's well you know what Trump said about that one right what did he say Trump said that if they showed you what they showed me you wouldn't want to release it either oh yeah yeah I did hear crazy what a crazy thing to say yeah that can only mean one thing in my eyes we did it yeah it's the only the only thing that makes any sense is the United States did it I mean more and more just keeps unraveling you know Tucker

just comes out and says it openly he just says it openly CIA killed Kennedy he has that crazy laugh I don't you know I don't know who could actually say it other than the people that have read those papers and you know and who knows what they you know the the the president is basically a part-time employee not a part-time employee but part A short-term employee you know if you got a long run in business and for some technicality every now and then you have to bring in some [ __ ] CEO and he does

a four-year term and then hopefully he can finagle it so he gets another four-year ter if he's playing by the rules and you just bring him in way to put it yeah why would you tell that guy who killed Kennedy yeah yeah they hid [ __ ] from him all the time which is totally illegal what do you what do you think about uh rfk's you know possibly getting in to uh investigate all that stuff I think it would be one of the best things for the health of the people in the United States if

you really care about health I think there's a lot of us and it was me at one point in time and I've gotten more educated about it a lot of us are very ignorant about what we're doing to our bodies with food and with medication and being the truth and think there's reason why other countries multiple other countries have banned food elements food like ingredients that we use all the time these red dyes all these different and this is all there was just a recent thing that they did who who was involved in that Brigham

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people show traces of glyphosate in their blood we're getting it through all kinds of vegetables it's ubiquitously sprayed on monocrop agriculture crops we're all just consuming these poisons there's no reason to have fluoride in the water there's [ __ ] no reason we've been putting fluoride in the oh keep your teeth you don't want cavities it doesn't make any sense and we've been doing it forever and there's no reason to do it and there's like real data that shows that levels of fluoride in water lowers IQ the higher the fluoride is in water in certain

areas they can see a measurable dip in people's iq's wow I didn't know that yeah have you have you uh have you messed around with the have you heard of the Yuka app no dude you got to get the Yuka app what is it so you basically scan anything uh like food related it's yuk deodorant I think it's I think it's yua there it is there it is y shout out to there it is see like Honey Nut CH it's so it'll tell you the additives in there contains additives to avoid and it'll tell you

all the it'll tell you all the chemicals and what's what the chemicals do to You Ah that's genius yeah it's pretty what a great ad no ads we just did an ad for them good for them though but that's what people need I think if RFK gets in office he will expose a lot of this stuff just like he did when he was an environmental attorney you know people think of him he's just the vaccine cook listen you got to look at that guy's the the history of that guy's work has all been about protecting

people from corporations that are poisoning them yeah that's that's literally what that guy did his whole career and if he can do that with health particularly with things that we can avoid look there was one of the things they demonstrated is that Lucky Charms as sold in the United States they don't sell the same one in Canada in Canada the dyes that we to make it all pretty and exciting for kids they don't allow that cuz it's [ __ ] toxic yeah so we allow it which means someone's corrupt yeah someone's corrupt probably the whole

system maybe probably the whole system is is heavily influenced at at the very least forget about bribery let's not even say bribery heavily influ influenced by relationships that these people have with CEOs in these corporations and the boards of executives and this weird little revolving door between the FDA and the CDC and the all these different organizations and then they get they leave and then they get this amazing job working for some huge corporation that they were helping regulate just a few years ago it's the most transparent thing it should be if insider trading is

illegal how's that legal good point I mean do you does FDA approval even mean anything to you not to me it doesn't to me but it took a long time before I got to that it took a long time before I really understood like why do we think that saturated fat is bad oh it was a lie by the sugar companies okay why do why do people tell you that vitamin supplementation doesn't really help and you just need a balanced diet oh because Doctors Don't Know Jack [ __ ] about nutrition and that you're going

to a guy who literally knows less than you because he went to medical school for how to fix knees or whatever the [ __ ] he specialized in and you're taking this guy's advice and he doesn't know anything about Nutri he's not read any peerreview data that guy's just trying to keep up he's got [ __ ] bills piling in he's bringing people and shuffling them through the office and he's worried about his you have insurance in case you you [ __ ] up malpractice insurance and you have to pay your medical school bills and

those guys are barely getting they're floating they're trying to just run people through their office as fast as they can does it does it bother you if there's some type I don't know some type of a new does it bother you if it's not FDA approved at all if it's new like nobody's looked into it well I wouldn't dig anything no one's looked especially a drug it's just like give it some time kids give it some time I mean how many times do they have to pull drugs before people like what is the percentage of

drugs that the FDA approves and then pulls I believe it's 25% is I have no idea I think it's 25% see if that's true so these are the ones that they approve and then and eventually they find oh this stuff is terrible for you and then they pull it yeah I think it's 25% which you know what does it say oneir oh [ __ ] one third I was off according to 2017 study which is probably worse now about onethird of drugs approved by the FDA within a 10-year period receive alerts warnings or recalls in

the Years following their approval that's [ __ ] bananas give it some time kids yeah also have you seen uh the Steven Crowder undercover thing he did with that Co Zar in New York no have you seen that Jamie go to his page and find the most recent one cuz the most recent one is fascinating because the most recent one this guy is openly talking about how monkey pox is not really a threat but they're trying to present it as a threat so they could sell this medication they're talking about pushing this man this guy's

openly talking about monkey box is really just gay guys get it from unprotect what that's the guy though right yeah is it on his Instagram go to it I'll show you which one it is yeah that's it the no no no no no that's not it that's not it that's because that's the one where he's talking about um how he shut the the city down there's a recent one no that's the last one I know maybe it's somewhere else let me scroll down a little bit see if you you can find the one see that

one right there that's that kind of that's kind of yellow that's yellow there but which one there's got to be one where he's talking about monkey pox because that was the one I was watching today that's that's not because that's all about uh shutting the schools down God damn it we got to find it okay just find it and get to us because I I know he I might have watched it on X I probably thought I'm saying X now yeah good for I feel politically correct like when I call transgender person a girl she

like you like that how I did that I said she were he's talking to him directly um no okay no that's not it that's that's Crowder confronting him when he's that guy's fired now that guy's [ __ ] but the monkey pox one God damn it I know I saved it if you want I can find it I saved it on my phone because I was like this is just so Bonkers that these people are having conversations in public and openly admitting that they're trying to push people into taking drugs that don't even work link

to the video though really interesting um God damn it this is GNA be a problem I'm not GNA find it if you see just see if you can find it it's got to be out there because I watched it this morning did you go monkey box nothing just it's going to be in one of these links I just have to take a second oh wait hold on back up back up that was right there right above that Dr Jay Varna okay this is it but it's not NE same thing as last one it's not there's

no link to the video oh so is it because uh the New York Post doesn't show it that's okay we could just read what it says because it's kind of interesting we we don't have to hear him say it but Stephen Crowder's kind of decided to do this James O'Keefe type deal and I don't know how they do that it's pretty wizardly yeah you know generally I think you get like a gay guy who likes to talk and some handsome dude who can sit down with this guy and get him a little tipsy that seems

to be happen gay guys like to Spill the Beans uh he previously serve a senior health advisor to then Mayor Bill DeBlasio will task with running Big Apple's pandemic response okay so he was talking about the approval process while discuss discussing Sia Technologies technov vir vibant or teox drug so this is the drug for monkey pox uh see so that's why spinning it in the media is helpful we want the FDA to approve our drug specifically for monkey pox and right now it's only considered experimental and they won't approve it he said and the US

teox is not approved by the FDA for treatment of moox but can be used to treat P patients as part of a clinical trial known as the study of technov Virat for human moox virus according to signant Technologies the company's website added that the stomp trial is being conducted to eval valuate the efficacy of teox for the treatment of moox Vara then griped at the video filmed on August 14th that his then employer is stuck with our drug but the people aren't going to be as confident in it because the data doesn't look as strong

as it should and so then later he starts talking about the stock prices so he says sometimes you do a study and this [ __ ] nothing works at all or people get really sick from it he said in the covert recording the problem is if you do another study it'll take a year or two to to do it because you have to get the ethics approval you got to get the money you got to get the patience to come in in the videos Vara then gloated about how he knows the reporters well and referenced

a September interview with New York Times on empo which touted the teox as a drug used to treat empo infection he also described the World Health organization's emergency authorization process before explaining how he wants the media to report on teox so he was talking one of the things in the video he was talking about stock prices so they're talking about making it look like these drugs do better than they do getting people to prescribe them uh okay hold on going on okay so basically we're trying to get the media to say is oh the drug

didn't work because it was designed the wrong way so they're going to do another study and it'll probably work and in the meantime people just prescribe it as an emergency drug that's what we want the story to be which is wild to say out loud and he said the risk of empo spreading in the US is very very low and it's almost certainly going to stay among gay men yeah so it's all just it's supposedly um only like I I don't think in America like I think four people have died from it which is you

got to go hard that's it huh you got to go hard to died from that you you quit right before they talked about the 10p person sex parties oh yeah that was that was another thing that was when he got busted for having uh parties during the covid lockdowns while he was encouraging the lock Downs wow you didn't hear that part no oh so he got Crowder got him on camera saying that he was doing Molly and partying and saying I hope somebody doesn't see me doing this because I could get in real trouble cuz

you know obviously I I reinforced the lockdowns wow I mean surprising but not you know boy everybody's eyes have been opened up over the last few years at least people that are trying to pay attention to help nutty the people are who actually run the show yeah yeah it's uh a lot of people are I mean it's crazy it's like everything you knew is just flipped upside down it's like a bunch of actors are running it that's what it's like cuz that's what they're really like with politicians are like are like actors are not quite

good-look enough to get into movies and television shows they they can't host Entertainment Tonight but they can read off a teleprompter you know and they can do a good per like look KL Harris had one good read off a teleprompter and she's shot up in the poles That's The Power of just a performance when you want to believe something you want to believe that's true I mean I just I don't believe anything anymore you know I I can't I was watching this these guys were breaking down you know they can track cell phones they can

figure out like whose cell phone was there they they can get metadata and they were talking about these KLA Harris rallies about how organized they are these people are coming in on buses and many of them have been to multiple rallies and that when this one this one local one like 80% of the people came from somewhere else and they were all bust in how do they know that how do they know that well I'll I'll send this to Jamie because this what I actually have but I think they know it because of the D

you could track data on a phone now oh they're doing the Geo fencing stuff I don't know exactly how they do it but they're doing something in which they can tell when when your phone has been in an area okay I found this guy's I found I found his uh the other video Yeah here I'll show it to you Jamie because it's even grosser hearing it come out of this guy's mouth this is an hour and a half video on his YouTube channel that I think it's taken from yeah but this is the the clip

I'm sending you the clip from Instagram for whatever I don't know if Instagram's hiding it I don't know what's happening but um they wouldn't do that it's on is louder with Crowder page that's why oh is that what it is yeah okay God I hate looking up things on my phone in the middle of a [ __ ] show but sometimes you have to so these guys what what they were what they were essentially what they were showing is that oh here it is that people it's is very organized and people are being bust in

and you know is that okay is that ethical I mean maybe just making it more convenient for them to go to the comml Harris rally nothing wrong with that yeah but if you're organizing crowds like say if you do a game show like if you host a game show you know Wheel of Fortune hello ladies and gentlemen those people are all paid they're most of them or sometimes you you let fans do it for like a very popular show but I have personally been on a lot of shows where the audience is paid so interesting

it's it's basically like um like if you're filming a sitcom you can and nobody knows what the sitcom is you there's a company that you can hire and you pay the audience to come in and the people cheer they have an Applause sign everybody cheers they laugh when you tell them to laugh like there's a guy in the audience that's like doing this to them that the people at home don't see so it's just it's all theater right so they could do that same strategy for a political rally yeah easily if you're talking about all

the money that's you're going to be in control of when you are the president of the United States M which is a spectacular position not just that but then all the money you're going to make in appearances and every for forever right you're going to do Goldman Sachs talks and make a half million dollars for no apparent reason there's so much money involved you don't think you would pay audiences to come and cheer that's cheap yeah that's cheap I don't know I don't do you think that's a moral well I think we have like very

loose rules on what you're allowed to do and what you're not allowed to do like there was a lot of outrage because people were saying that ABC somehow or another had gotten the subject matter to kamla and that they had agreed to kamla that they were not going to ask her about her poit her da record when she was in California and that they were not going to talk about some other person she was involved with that might be in trouble and they weren't weren't going to fact check her and then they said they were

only going to fact check Donald Trump yeah which is what led to her saying quite a few things that weren't true and no one said anything about it particularly about troops being deployed overseas yeah did you see that video where the troops troops are like what the [ __ ] you talking about I got a really good really good friend of mine that's deployed in overseas right now and according to K Harris and uh yeah he's sniping bad guys over in in uh Africa yeah how how mad would he be if he heard that I've

been they're pissed you oh I'm not in a war zone they're pissed they should be pissed so this is uh from an Instagram account I don't know what podcast this clip came from but let's just play it rally 53 mobile devices at Camala Harris's rally in Charlotte North Carolina on Thursday afternoon it appears over 3,600 came from Georgia mainly Atlanta Georgia and approximately 720 from Savannah Georgia so that's a North Carolina rally with almost 80% of the attendees being from Georgia after you do the math that's only 600 or so local people from North North

Carolina that attended that's that's all who shows up and you're planning to what get 80 something million votes again something ain't right and then uh all these people come from buses and it's kind of weird cuz at the Trump events you don't really have like organized buses like that people just kind of show up and park on their own but at the Cala rally there's just these lines of buses at every event which is weird and a lot of the people are also the same people that attend multiple rallies can you read those tweets any

of the same ones from previous event cuz this guy's tracking the cell phones I guess and he says 90% have been to three plus rallies 54% were even at Arizona and Nevada rallies all it could be that she is so popular that it's like swifties they just follow her around or it could be like you know the Grateful Dead was in the 1970s maybe maybe that's what's going on maybe she's just so amazing all the sudden maybe she just Stella Got Her Groove you know something happened and she just kicked into gear and now she's

her best self yeah her best self she's going to be the president yay let's go to the these rallies I'm sure that's what's going on could be that it could it could be that I don't think it's really immoral I mean imoral it's just a it's just a rally well everybody wants their rally to be full I mean you know it's just I don't it's a facade man it's just a facade if you can do it for a game show you can do it for a political event I don't think it's aoral I think if

they did give her the questions and they really and this is someone signed an affidavit see what's going on with that see what's what's the latest with that Jamie so someone signed an affidavit that was an ABC employee that claims these things and uh it was very clear there was bias it was very clear that they were factchecking him and not factchecking her but it was you know unfortunately he doesn't do himself any favors because he kind of goes off the rail sometimes they're eating dogs they're eating cats which by the way they may very

well be doing that that's that's a thing they do in Haiti sometimes sometimes they sacrifice animals and you know they have local rituals religious rituals that they do I mean this been going on for a long time though you know sometimes the kungpow chicken is a chicken you know I mean that's a real thing that's a real thing and to try to pretend that it's racist to say that no no no humans sometimes will do things according to this it says that this started with a claim that there was an affidavit but I don't know

that it's ever been actually presented to anyone interesting um didn't uh didn't it get discussed on Twitter and people were posting about the veracity of it who I think Elon even put it on his who's no Colin rug I know had it on his yeah I think it's probably going to be hard to tell unless charges are Congress but it doesn't say that it was I don't see said it made it to Congress they talked about Bill that's right bill akman was the guy who tweeted it didn't know the claim is accurate but shared it

anyway which is what's fun it's fun to do on the internet uh Vance addressed the supposed whistleblowers allegations with reporters saying it should be a national Scandal if true Trump again mentioned the Whistleblower September 13th at a rally in Las Vegas claiming that Harris had received the debate questions in advance fortunately we had a leaker or a whistleblower I don't care which I love that person way he talk it's such a trump statement um uh rep representative Dan merer muser muser in Pennsylvania Senate Fox news interview that he would try to bring in ABC News

and The Whistleblower before Congress to testify about the affidavit and they said that the person who did it was killed in the car crash and that seems to be false yeah that was uh that was uh Amplified by marjerie Taylor green who also doesn't do herself any favors I think uh they do stuff like that this is this is my take on that when I saw all these people tweeting that the guy died in a car crash I was like that might be a trap that one might be a trap I think they do stuff

like that well they'll throw out a fake story and get people to share it like you know without looking into it at all and it turns out to be complete horseshit and it makes the whole thing look like horseshit now now it looks like the makes the affid David it's at least connected to horseshit yeah you know what I mean I mean it's a good tactic yeah smart tactic they got a lot of good tactics they're very organized which is really interesting and that's one of the things about Trump is that he's so dominant and

he's so swing from the hip that no one can kind of Corral him you know and it seems like she's really open to being coached like some of these speeches are very different than any speeches she's ever given before and you see the difference between that and then like did you see the Oprah intervie interview no it's off the rails yeah I heard about it into [ __ ] wine mom country again wow but Tim Dylan has the best Tim Dylan's like she's saying Gypsy curses what is she saying oh man it's like when you

get her off the rails and she is uh it's kind of [ __ ] up right because that's not the job the job is not being able to sound cool in an interview with Oprah that's not the job but that's the most important part about getting the job I just want to hear like you know how they're going to accomplish all this stuff well they're going to do it once they get in even though they're already in that's that's the that seems to be the typical response right well one thing that you could see like

really clearly is there is a ferocious effort to stop Donald Trump from becoming president again that I've never seen before I've never seen I've seen tight races I've seen people very divided you know I I've seen it for years there's always been like a division between the Republicans and Democrats in this country but not like this not like this where the guy almost gets killed twice and they don't even talk about it it's scary man it's nuts it's scary almost gets killed twice and the second one they just brushed it off like I don't even

think the guy got a shot off huh yeah like the guy was set up at a golf course for 12 hours with a bulletproof vest on an AK-47 and was specifically there to kill Trump and you don't think that's crazy I think it's crazy they didn't cover it either I mean it barely got covered barely barely in and out and then the brother of the guy or the guy's son gets arrested for child pornography which is do you know have you looked into the Black Rock commercial stuff at all Is that real the one shooter

was in the Black Rock commercial that was the kid that tried to kill Trump yeah they said that this guy was in a Black Rock commercial but I heard that that's not true it's [ __ ] but that could be another one that they just threw out there yeah right you throw one out there like that and then people retweet it and those people look stupid because you retweeted something dumb and then it just it weaken The public's faith in what you have to say about things and also makes the story look stupid like those

like that story about that whistleblower will forever be connected to people retweeting the fact that he died in a car accident even though he didn't die in a car accident yeah so it's always going to be shrouded in [ __ ] yeah yeah kind of Genius it is man it's it's it's I mean it's it's a great way to discredit yeah it's a great way to get somebody elected yeah good point good point it's just it's when you're seeing the manipulation just in full bloom just marching down the street in front of everybody and and

no one's freaking out about it that's what's really weird what do you think uh I mean if you thought about who's behind all this these assassination attempts you think they're lone wolves or well was it Matt Gates that was saying that he's been informed that there's five different kill teams looking for Trump in the country right now somebody did just say that two of them are domestic I think Trump said that I was looking Trump said it there's five guys they think they're gonna get me they're not gonna get me right here so is the

grot uh big threats on My Life by Iran the US military is watching and waiting moves already been made by Iran that didn't work out but they will try again not a good situation for anyone I am surrounded by more men guns and weapons than I have ever seen before thank you to Congress for unanimously approving far more money to Secret Service zero no votes what what zero no votes strictly bipartisan okay oh I understand zero no votes like no one voted against it strictly bipartisan nice to see Republicans and Democrats get together on something

an attack on a former president is a death wish for the attacker yeah um it wasn't just hemp that was saying that though it was um I'm I'm pretty sure it was Matt Gab I know I have that saved too if you want to but uh so if there really are five different kill teams in in the country looking for Trump right now that's just insane I bet it should be hard to find him you know I me has rallies you know giant rallies yeah in New York there was 60,000 people that's insane see that's

the difference between the K Harris Rous if that gu telling the truth if that gu telling the truth and they really are just sort of ating this and putting on theater that's a big difference between what's happening with Trump yeah if he's he got organically got 60,000 people to come see him and and freak out in New York it's kind of the media is a monster it really is it is a it's a it's such an obvious monster such a deceptive sneaky propagandist monster it's it's how long do you think the media has left they'll

be around you think so it all depends on who get gets into office really it depends on um so the real fear was when they started getting their claws into Twitter the real fear was when the government started suppressing accurate information and Twitter let them do it that's that was scary close so Elon buys Twitter releases the Twitter files Michael shellenberger uh Matt taibe and all those journalists they all uncover all these different aspects that's super disturbing and totally legal and they release everything um and then Twitter becomes kind of crazy like Twitter's wild now

like there's it's just it's totally wild wild west unregulated and then the what do you got Jamie this is it yeah okay one of the five known uh teams hunting president Trump before Butler Pennsylvania attempt was Ukrainian so this is Matt Gates talking about this but I think that if that hadn't happened so if all of social media remained like staunch leftist left-wing just giving completely into whatever propaganda the government wants to give them regarding vaccines or or or Ukraine or anything else with no critical arguments about it that are accepted they just anybody who

doesn't follow the narrative especially people like you know they they censored people from Stanford and MIT they P they were trying to tell them to pull those guys like Jay bachara all the doctors about Co yeah oh yeah I did I did censoring like legitimate experts in the field who aren't Cooks guys like Peter Mulla who's the most published doctor in his field of study in human history and they're like no no you're a cook you're a c it's and we know now that that was not true and he was correct now we all know

right all these years later most people kind of know what the [ __ ] happened even the people reluctant to admit they got duped yeah if they if Elon does not come along and buy Twitter I don't know where we are right now I really don't because if they had the clamps on Twitter then and they did the same thing with Twitter that they're doing right now with other social media apps it would be [ __ ] awful out there I know man it's uh elon's been a blessing he really has far you know it's

it's a it's a big one I mean I I don't I don't think they're going to be around that much longer I feel like that the media will die with the baby boomer generation I think if Elon didn't buy Twitter they would have been fine I really do probably the only thing that [ __ ] them up is YouTube but they got a clamp on YouTube too you know YouTube is they're very restrictive in what you can talk about very especially during the pandemic they would ban you from YouTube for talking about things that we

know for a fact are true now it's we dealt with a lot of that we dealt with a lot of it right I'll bet you did too oh yeah anybody on YouTube mean you have to like parse your words you know like Jimmy D even when he's criticizing the vaccine he's said but you should take the vaccine because it's safe and effective he always has to say it like to cover his ass like as a joke was it nice for you to come off YouTube did you did you enjoy that when it first happened my

like was strategy pain in the ass gone no pay attention to it but my strategy was to become 10% less famous so when I went over to Spotify Spotify was going to give me all this money and I was like oh great just [ __ ] be a little less famous too that'd be good like kind of like go the Howard Stern route kind of fade off into the sunset yeah did it work no it didn't work did I know I was going to get caught up in this massive controversy you know but it also

even back even after before that this podcast was growing on spot ify a little too quick but so there's no like extra pressure being on YouTube but there is a pressure if you're relying on YouTube if you're relying on because they'll demonetize you that's what I meant I meant with like the censorship stuff I was wondering you know want to hear something interesting we got demonetized all the time a lot of episodes got demonetized until we announced that we're going to go exclusive to Spotify and then from that moment out there was like a few

months of a window no kid they never demonetized us they just took all the money don't go Joe no they did no no no it wasn't that they wanted the money now like why would they demonetize me because they don't get a cut either so what they're trying to do essentially is get you to fall in line by getting you to self-censor because it benefits you financially it's a creepy it's a creepy form of censorship because you do it to yourself and it's kind of okay because you can't really prove that they got you to

not talk about things you wanted to talk about and they can't really prove that you've followed this public narrative just because you want to keep your job I mean I you know what really bothers me is because we both put a lot into this you know and and what bothers me it's like just tell me what you want me to take out what is it don't won [ __ ] tell you I don't want to talk to them this is this is how my feeling on the thing is I don't think they should be talking

to people about what to put in I think if you're not doing anything illegal if you're not saying anything illegal or doing anything illegal don't take it off some some of it I I'm totally with you some some of it I get you know uh like you know pedophilia 100% illegal stuff even language I mean there's three-year-olds out watch I got a three-year-old kid you know he's watching they have YouTube kids like two kids is great so I get it when they like Mark my [ __ ] with a 18 plus but if if but

they won't tell me you know it's like well just like I I can't correct the [ __ ] problem if you don't tell me what it is right and and I mean I mean they just don't they don't want to abide they don't want to box themselves in and not be able to or censor somebody yeah there's that and there's no benefit for them to tell you what you said that was wrong there's no benefit the the the good thing is to get you to self-censor that's the best to put the threat over you that's

why they give you strikes one strike two strikes Sean you got three strikes you know it's kind of silly it's weird it's like is this the penal system or is this a goddamn social media platform it should be if advertisers don't want to advertise on that particular content okay that seems easy to manage guys and guess what there'd be a lot of advertisers that would be willing to advertise on that content you're just not being creating enough creative enough with your advertisement if you're just treating it as a business or are you treating it as

not just a social media video website but a way to push and a way to amplify a very specific message I mean if you can control what comes out of people's mouths then you can control what they think yeah and if you if you're making a lot of money on YouTube and you're doing great like wow I've got a [ __ ] real good life now and then all a sudden YouTube comes along and says oh you were talking about the vaccines Sean Sean we can't have covid vaccine misinformation on our platform this is going

to cost lives and some some platforms make you do like a re-education thing you have to like talk to them and have conversations with them about what you did that may have been offensive or what you did that may have violated the terms and conditions that they have for their Community yeah I think we had to do that I think we did that I think [ __ ] creepy that shit's [ __ ] creepy because you're dealing with some [ __ ] woke kid in Silicon Valley who upt talks and this person okay what you're

doing Sean right now with your show I know that you don't think it's harmful but it really is it really is it's truly harmful yeah it's truly harmful exposing government corruption and I could tell I can it's it's yeah it's real harmful all right but it's [ __ ] man it's weird but I love the fact that at least it exists and even though it's not perfect cuz I don't think YouTube can be perfect cuz they're managing at scale in order for them to get all the pornography and the Mur you cartels upload murder videos

to YouTube like they are constantly trying to put out fires you imagine the amount of data that YouTube has to deal with on a daily basis it kind of behooves them to just just [ __ ] give them strikes threaten them let's just slow everything down like too much of this getting us in trouble we just want to make a lot of money yeah like I get it I get it there's only one YouTube It's kind of genius and it's a perfect setup like the algorithm where it's constantly like recommending stuff that you're interested in

it's [ __ ] great great time waster but it's also a tool for shaping narratives and if only one narrative is pushed out there and other narratives will literally get you demonetized so you lose your ability to make a living and then possibly get your whole Channel removed which it did to many people they just removed their whole Channel W where do you think this is going to end think it is going to that should be all that stuff we talked about should be illegal that sh stuff should be covered in the First Amendment demonetization

no because look if you want to have standards where you say that uh the advertisers that we have we have a group of advertisers and they have requested no shows where someone swears no no shows where someone talks about sex no shows where someone talks about overd drinking or anything like that they just have rules we don't want to be associated with that that okay that's totally reasonable but when you want to like stop a channel from uploading a video because they're making an argument that maybe the lab leak hypothesis is legitimate and you're pulling

that off the air well now what are you doing if you're you're deleting an episode that's accurate about really dangerous information dangerous information not just to us but also to the organizations that that that paid for this these crazy gain of function research projects like what the [ __ ] are you doing and what did you do and if you were talking about that on YouTube and even expressing your ability to just guess that maybe it came from that area like have you ever seen that John Stewart interview where he was on the co Bear

show yeah [ __ ] amazing right amazing but even that like coar is trying to stop them and like just saying maybe these people working on these [ __ ] viruses let one leak maybe that would get you removed from YouTube that's that's a violation of the first amendment in my opinion yeah because you're you should especially some of these people were very informed people they were biologists and they were talking about the very specific design of this virus the fairing cleavage sites and how it's very different than anything you see from a natural spillover

they were they were talking about technical very specific details and they were getting banned like Brett Weinstein almost lost his chance Chann he almost I know that yes I didn't know that we had to have him on do an emergency podcast like let people know what the [ __ ] is going on they almost pulled his channel damn that's he's a biologist a brilliant one and he's talking about real information it's scary man I mean I don't know I I I think about it all the time obviously I mean it's industry so it just I

I I hope X you know turn turn out to be the new the new thing I don't think X is going anywhere I think Elon knows how important it is and he's got all the money in the world I think he'll keep that [ __ ] running and I think it's also getting attached to AI now which is going to be an insane money maker I don't think X has any problems I think X is he's going to grow it into some sort of an all-in-one app you probably have cryptocurrency on it and private messaging

and phone calls you'll you'll be able to shop on it that's what it's probably going to be if I had to guess and I think that for place like Rumble uh the more places like YouTube and Facebook and all these other places more they can find people and more they force people into these boxes and make people tow the line if they want to make any money off of advertising or if they don't want to get their Channel deleted the more companies like Rumble will emerge that's what I think I think there's going to be

just right now rumble's A Hard Sell for some folks cuz they see it as like oh it's a rightwing [ __ ] like a Maga I'm not going truth social it's truth social video you know there's a lot of people that have those prejudices but you know Russell Brand's on there a lot of people are on there it's a good platform and it's an important platform and it should we should like support it and want it to grow we should want them all to grow like spotify's got video now we need more video because audio

is just not enough you know just audio podcasts you you want you want people to share things virally yeah and the viral stuff it's it's all like Elon Musk when he smoked to blunt on my podcast that's all video you want video of that yeah and the more we have platforms where that stuff is just free where you can just say whatever you want say whatever you think about anything which really X and Rumble are the only places that I know of that you could really do that right now have you have you had any

problem on audio at all no good no good I haven't either it's uh yeah audio is like they're leaving that alone for now I think it's probably because it's not as easily shared right that's that's what's coming next yeah probably I mean all they would have to do is just put images of you and images of me and then have our audio and upload that as a video and then maybe they would start coming after audio yeah yeah I mean I I hope you know I just I just hope this [ __ ] starts to

turn around I do too but I don't think it turns around if KLA Harris gets into office I think they clamp down more I think the same stuff that they were trying to do with Twitter they're they'll try to do with something else with things they've already openly discussed it you know she's openly discussed that the same rules have to apply to Facebook they have to apply to Twitter and that Elon Musk could lose his Privileges and like there's so many wild things that they're saying uh Tim wall said that the First Amendment doesn't apply

to misinformation or hate speech okay well it certainly does it does you know sometimes people say things wrong and the the goal of the first amendment is you say something wrong and then this guy who's an expert says the right thing yeah you know and then you correct them yeah I mean the the misinformation it's all opinion right well so much of it turns out to be true how about mask don't work you would get screamed at for masks don't work well guess what they don't [ __ ] work they don't work I remember said

masks don't work remember that interview before the pandemic before they knew how big it was going to be yes he was like you don't have to wear a mask then it was where two that it was wear it doubles put two face diapers on it's bananas how easily People Fell in Love that scared me the most I know it it was I mean it's like they it's like what were you like what are you there's a lot there's nothing they won't do there's nothing they won't do there's a lot of cowards out there there's a

lot of people that have never been pushed and they don't know what to do when they get nervous and they're out there voting do do you think they're cowards or do you think they just they're just lazy and they like being told what to do there takes all the decisions out of their day there's both but there's also people that are scared of a negative response so they say what everybody wants them to say you know somebody described this really very eloquently and I and I saved it on my phone because I was like this

guy nailed it but essentially they were saying like especially with beta males they don't say something because they have an opinion and they really want to express that opinion they say something and they consider am I going to get in trouble trouble if I say this and then if they if that's the case they don't and are am I going to get in trouble if I agree with them and probably not because right-wing people don't really go after you the same way leftwing people do like if you want to talk about like a woman's right

to choose if you want to say I agree with the woman's right to choose but like Bill Burr's bit you ever see that bit and he goes uh I think I agree with the woman's right to choose but I also think you're killing a baby you know it's a kind of a crazy bit it's cuz it's it's really funny cuz brilliant but it's just that's really what it is I mean that's the truth that is what it is it is what it is it I mean factually that is what it is and this is coming

from someone who's pro-choice but I think that if you you know if you look at all the things that they have that distract us all the different things that are in the news constantly whether it's the did raid or [ __ ] JLo and Ben Affleck are breaking up and you just getting forc fed all kinds of [ __ ] while the border is wide open while they have apps where people can get flights the bp1 app what the [ __ ] yeah that sounds like the you know I had chamath on you know chth

I don't want to mispronounce his last name I'll [ __ ] it up brilliant brilliant guy and we were talking about how hard it was for his family to legally immigrate into this country and how difficult it was to to get a visa and I mean this is a brilliant guy was one of the he started Facebook you know he's one of the original guys at Facebook and he's this guy who did it the right way and every step of the way there was this tremendous anxiety when he would go to get his Visa renewed

because he didn't know if he was going to get kicked out of the country because someone could arbitrarily go no not good enough because he had a prove to be here that he has skills that an American doesn't have he's he's a real expert in something you know that I went down uh to the border about I think it was about two two years ago is maybe a little longer and uh went down with Ed Calderone and I love Ed yeah what a great guy right he's a great guy I've had him out a couple

times yeah that's well that's where I found him so thank you but um but uh so now I went down to TJ with them and this was this was like before really really hit the hit the news cycle and we walked into a migrant Camp there's probably a couple th migrants there and uh so I yanked one of them out and interviewed him and uh you know used Ed to to help translate and I mean the guy's been sitting there for like I think he was there with his wife and kids for like two years

and I as I was like why don't you just like go across dude it's I mean it's honest question like why don't you just go across he said he wanted to do it the right way wow you know he's like no he's like I just want to do it the right way oh my God he's running around with this little battery pack charging cell phones for 50 cents you know and I'm like I'm just like [ __ ] a man like why don't like why don't they just because I don't nobody's anti-immigration no not that

I know of and it's you just yeah why don't you just unfuck the immigration process and maybe we can get some more people in here quicker legally if you do that and then we actually know who's coming in and we have documentation of who they are and wouldn't that be nice yeah you know meanwhile that's racist yeah yeah so and they want them to vote which is even crazier they're pumping them out into swing States it's so transparent it's it's happening right in front of everybody's face and it's a it's a wild grab for power

and um the only people talking about are people like us which is really crazy that the only people that are talking about it are people that aren't really connected to some sort of uh executive Corporation a bunch of producers bunch of people telling you what to do yeah I mean this is not even something that you know that right-wing news wants to discuss good point good point I mean if you if you have you done any digging on who's coming across there and yeah it's I talked to Dr Phil about it Dr Phil did this

big investigation you know he's got that he's got his own network now Merit media it's gotten so bad that Dr Phil decided he has to start a Network for news good for him man he's a great guy good for him great guy but he was essentially you know talking about how this the they really don't know how many people that are coming through that are criminals they're dropping off their their IDs on the Mexican side they just get rid of their IDs so that when they cross over they have nothing on them you don't know

who they are you don't know what they've done gang members cartel members guys escaping Venezuelan prisons no one knows yeah all you have to do is get over here and we'll give you an EBT card we'll set you up go to New York City they put you in a nice hotel to give you free food and meanwhile there's poor people in Chicago that are like what about us what about American citizens that pay tax dollars you guys don't give a [ __ ] about us you you haven't done anything for us why because they know

those people are going to vote Democrat they know they already got them they already got them we got those people statistically they look at the numbers like statistically we've V this has gone blue we're fine yeah we're good let's just let's let's just get some people in them swing states and it's [ __ ] scary man I mean I've been I've been diving into the borderers shed for quite a while and and uh ever since this Afghanistan withdraw that like uh I mean that was like a big uh I mean that was just [ __

] did you talk to Tim about that Tim Kennedy when you had him on a little bit a little bit dude he told me some [ __ ] he told me some [ __ ] that he just you can't imagine like that guy saw so much overseas and he said the worst things he ever saw was the the Afghanistan pull out dude i' I've do you know who Tyler Andrew Vargas is no that's the that's the one Marine that survived that big exp that suicide bombing at abig gate abig gate was they killed 13 Marines

yeah and uh so I I called him well everybody wanted him to come on the show and I was like I'm I'm never going to get this [ __ ] guy like all the media everybody wants them and um but I was like all right fine I'll reach out so hit him on hit him on the on the gram and uh messaged right back and he got in and he's like man he's like I'm so glad that you reached out to me he's like I was literally just praying with my fiance that you would reach

out cuz wow he had just did a ABC Good Morning America interview interviewed for 7 hours they released 5 Seconds of that interview cuz it made the administration look so [ __ ] bad they would they wouldn't Heir it so I got him on kept getting dinged you know by YouTube they didn't like they didn't like the the real footage it was which was actually like from his cell phone that we put we do previews and [ __ ] but um man like to have like his you know testimony about what happened that day and

and uh and then the the care that afterwards which was a [ __ ] atrocious you know guy I watched this guy my studio is on the second story and um I watch a you know 23-year-old kid hobble up those [ __ ] stairs with one leg one arm all kinds of [ __ ] going on in his intestines I mean I just I was like man what the [ __ ] man this didn't even have to happen they had the guy they had the [ __ ] guy in the sights they could have killed

him and you know nobody nobody gave him permission I just you know maybe they I mean I can't back SE quarterback it but maybe they shouldn't have asked just eliminated him Jesus Christ but I mean he's talking about you know before we got into the actual incident he was talking about you know like like moms trying to throw their babies over over the wall and getting caught up and razor wire and just seeing a [ __ ] baby dangle there by the leg that's you know it's and there's like no uh you know there's no

repercussions for how that went down the media just wants to [ __ ] cover it up and so so I I started digging deep and uh I teamed up with the former uh CA targeter Sarah Adams and then a really good friend of mine Scott manam we went over to Vienna uh to interview this guy Ahmad massud who's the leader the commander of the Northern Alliance out there that's like the resistance that's kind of fighting the Taliban uh you know the Taliban pretty much took over government in Afghanistan and I saw the parade yeah with

our with all our [ __ ] that we left there crazy yeah man so got a bunch of Intel from massud and and you know like so kind of looping all the way back around to the southern border I mean so once Taliban took control of all of our [ __ ] I mean this this could go on for a while but so the so now what they're doing is they have the they have the passport office over there just making legitimate passports to there's now there's 21 terrorist organizations over there training uh hanza Laden

who we were told was killed is actually [ __ ] alive and he's marrying into all these other terrorist networks so he married mola Omar's uh daughter he married who else he he married into all these different terrorist networks and so these guys used to be like competitors kind of you know just like just like just like the UFO guys they you know they all hate each other but they all have the one common theme like disclosure these guys the one common thing is you know let's go take over the Western World so he is

basically hanza Bin Laden is is married into all these terrorist organizations now they all have one common goal to come over to you know the Western World and and ruin our way of life and so what they're doing is they're funneling as many of these terrorists into the passport office creating them legit real passports and then they sprinkle them they get them flights into all over South Central America and then they funnel them up um through the Darian Gap Jesus into the into the US and so you know there's there is there is zero I

don't give a [ __ ] what the FBI or any of these people are saying they have there is zero way to track how many of these [ __ ] have come in to the US and so you know now I what we're going to see is like October 7th style attacks like we just saw in Israel and the in the mall in Russia and and everybody's like oh you know this well do you think By Design By Design like the leaving the B border porous allowing these people to come in absolutely I think it's

by Design I mean they basically told border patrol stand down like do not do your [ __ ] job we're going to blast you I mean remember the guy on the horse that they said was whipping yeah people and wound up being like the of the I mean yeah I think it's I think it's by Design uh you know from from the government but I don't I think that they look I think that the government is is is more incompetent than it's ever been before and I think they have one common goal and that I

think the the goal is voting you know they want them to vote but I don't think that they I don't think they're competent enough to realize the the death and destruction and and the the other repercussions that we're going to Face by keeping that border open you know because because they don't have anybody you know that that they don't have anybody with any experience that's that's that that they don't have any solid intelligence stuff going on that that's that's telling them like hey this is what's going to happen it's all agenda driven Jesus Christ does

that make sense yeah it does make sense it does make sense that all they care about is voting is get the people in don't worry about the consequences but the more Insidious conspiracy would be that they want unrest because it gives them an opportunity to clamp down on rights I mean [ __ ] though they I mean unrest I mean they got really good at unrest you know what I mean the in 2020 right all through or even before 20120 you know up to that election so I don't think they need to import terrorism yeah

but it's kind of unrest the the kind of unrest that you get from people uh blowing up Target is very different than the kind of unrest you get from legitimate terror attack yeah yeah I mean you know and then people I mean do you ever think about why nothing's happened like China if you if you looked into the power grid at all yeah dude it's not good lights out buddy it's so easy to kill yeah the power Grid's so weak it's so vulnerable it's really nuts it's nuts because anybody could Target it yeah well I

mean China you know we have those uh we have we have uh you know we get those big trans everything's imported from China and we have these huge you know Transformers you can tell me Shut up if you already you know all the [ __ ] but uh all of those Transformers are imported from China and they're not checked they're not even they don't [ __ ] check them for malware or Trojan horses or anything and it would take I mean the Transformers it's not like the little box outside your house you know the green

box it's I mean they have to take overpasses out just to transport these things so you're talking years and I think it I think the number was like nine if they if they took out nine Transformers then the entire us would be out of power on top of that so then then doe Department of energy actually investigated one because somebody somebody was it got to DC that whatever they decided to look into it and they wouldn't [ __ ] release the results they wouldn't [ __ ] release the results so you know they're in our

they're in our water treatment plants they're in our power grid I've been talking about this [ __ ] from years and then cell phone towers cell phone towers and then and then F FBI director Chris Ray comes out and says oh yeah turns you know turns out our Grid's really vulnerable China's in there and they're also in our treatment plant which means they can [ __ ] poison us yeah they mean they own land around military bases like it's if they are on a long-term strategy It's very effective they're doing a great job just get

they undercut the competition to give us cell phone towers and all sorts of things they position him around military bases Mike Baker was explaining all all of it to me yeah and I'm like this is how is this how are they letting this go through is it incompetence is it fools running it is are they corrupt like how did they do that I mean one of the things that really [ __ ] us we got away from manufacturing and we relied on all these countries and we really found that out during covid when you couldn't

get shipments it was like whoa wait a minute how much of our [ __ ] is made over there like everything like how much medicine is made overseas how how many different things that we need that we constantly use we don't even know how to make yeah a lot masks you seen those P pulling the [ __ ] masks out you know I didn't him very long but I i' whatever I fell for it for about 30 days and then I was like this is [ __ ] [ __ ] but uh yeah you pull

the mask out and and I live out in the woods so I didn't you know but uh yeah made in China I'm like what didn't the thing come yeah from they they're making money hand over fees right cool the whole thing is nuts go us yeah it's nuts but getting away from manufacturing this country really did not do this country any justice it's just just to for corporations to save a little bit of money and to push everything off to third world countries to manufacture things that's including our phones and I've said this over and

over again if Apple could make an americanmade phone and charge me more money I pay double for it yeah charge me a phone where I know that people get union wages they get health care they get paid correctly they can live a good life and they work normal hours they don't have to sleep in a [ __ ] bunk like they do in that foxcon building when they have nets all around the building to keep people from jumping from the roofs yeah you've seen that [ __ ] right no actually I hav you haven't seen

that no the Chinese factories where they make iPhones are so [ __ ] the people are so distraught that they put all these fencing with giant nets all around the buildings cuz so many people were jumping to their death that they decided we'll just catch them with Nets are you serious yeah look at this those are the Nets those are suicide nets all around the building sorry buddy back to the assembly line how crazy is that damn that is [ __ ] up how crazy is that instead of making the conditions better where people don't

want to kill themselves so often that you need Nets around a building they go nah Nets is fine [ __ ] those people dude it's I mean it's straight slavery yeah it's close to it I mean they don't really have any other options and when you're getting a phone you know and what's a phone like two 1,500 bucks is that what it is charge 2,000 yeah charge 2,000 people pay it you most people are like putting on a part of their bill they pay a little bit of it off every day and you really don't

need to [ __ ] switch phones every year like everybody does but you don't need to it's stupid like I have a 2000 I have a iPhone 11 that I use sometimes like one of my numbers [ __ ] works great nothing wrong with it yeah nothing wrong with it yeah 5-year-old phone or four-year-old phone whatever the [ __ ] it is so you could get a made in America phone and you wouldn't feel like you're reporting this horrific [ __ ] that everybody turns a blind eye to cuz that's the only way you get

that kind of stuff you know they they have them all made over there yeah yeah it's uh I don't think it's coming back but well it could I mean there would have to be a large concerted effort but the problem is it took decades to go away it'll probably take slightly longer to come back you know cuz there's got to be planning and funding and people have to make long-term Investments it's going to be a a big gamble yeah but so I mean I'm sure you've seen who killed R um the the um where's what

is it Michael Moore's documentary the Flint Mig the Flint Michigan one what is it called again Roger me Roger and me that's right I want to say who killed Roger Rabbit Roger and me but it's all about what happened to Flint Michigan once they pulled out autom manufacturing and the the the entire population just those people who live in check to check they were doing okay but they they had jobs and then all of a sudden gone every job's gone there's no jobs there's nothing to do the entire industry is gone and just people went

into dire poverty like horrific dire poverty like instantaneously and just so a corporation can make some more money it's sad it's horrible sad it's [ __ ] horrible it's horrible and it's horrible that that's an option that a corporation would would decide yeah [ __ ] this town what do you what do you think it would I mean you do you think it's going to come back or you think it could come back it could come back I'm in I'm optimistic but honest you know I try try to look at it honestly but also go

I think most people are good people I really do I really believe that you know even most these people that are walking in from Guatemala I do it too 100% if I was living in the middle of nowhere and you told me hey America's letting people in you get a landscaper job you make 20 bucks an hour like what yeah I would 100% walk why wouldn't you why wouldn't you I think most people are good people and they just want a better life and I think the more we unite under that idea and stop buying

into this [ __ ] that like if either side is correct that it's the end of democracy I think I think we have to like stop all that tribal nonsense that's happening between the left and the right because people are just subscribed in to ideologies and getting captured in them to just like a religious fervor like they they think that they they're they're doing the only thing that could possibly be done to save us all and that the other side is a dire threat that's why like something like 24% of Americans think it would be

a good thing if Donald Trump got shot I just read that [ __ ] insane yeah [ __ ] insane that people would think that Violence by an assassin would be a good thing on a former president like we're that [ __ ] but I think that that's just a lot of media manipulation and a lot of [ __ ] a lot of people getting riled up and living in these Echo Chambers and these bubbles but I think ultimately at the core most people are good people and I think if we had some wins if

some things like that did start getting built and they start did start bringing back more American manufacturing and people start getting excited about the idea that America becomes a not just a place of innovation and art and creativity but also like we start manufacturing great [ __ ] again yeah there's no reason why we don't do that I mean I just I don't feel like I feel like technology is advancing it's it's such a rapid Pace I I I I mean I feel I feel like AI will take over I Ai and robots will take

over everything well if Ai and robots do that at least we can get AI and robots to manufacture things in America yeah that would be good no I'm with you I just I don't see I guess what I'm saying is I don't see the union worker I I don't see where their place really fits in there's going to be a lot less of them that's for sure it's pretty much every job and every manual labor job is under threat I think I think every job's under threat I don't think podcasts what are you gonna do

[ __ ] how you going to think like me yeah good luck good luck and comedy you're always going to have comy movies are in real trouble because AI can write pretty [ __ ] amazing scripts and the CGI the the way they can crank Out video is bananas now yeah I mean it's bananas it's just it looks perfect and it comes out like in minutes instead of years do you really think podcasting is safe from AI I don't know well I know AI is going to translate so um Spotify is going to translate my

show to multiple different languages nice eventually once they get the technology completely dialed in but uh they'll be able to do it in Spanish German French and you're going to be able to hear the it'll sound like me but speaking fluent French no kidding yeah are they is that are you like the I don't the test bunny no they've done it already oh cool they've definitely done it but it's they're going to be able to once they have it completely dialed in where there's no glitch there's going to be some weird glitches and context and

you know cultural things like that that aren't going to make sense if you translate it yeah that'll be weird but once they get it dialed in pretty good it's going to it'll be great for everybody it'll open up the world to like I want to know what these folks are saying in Russia you know i' i' like to listen to a Russian podcast yeah you know I've watched some Russian news things and seen the uh the teleprompter role and it's like they're always mocking us and make fun of us for having 78 genders and like

they they relentlessly mock Us in the news I'm like that's interesting like this is how Russia looks at America yeah I think that would be great I mean probably shouldn't be talking about my uh word direction that I'm going to go but um [ __ ] it whatever that's what I want to do I want to start going in in talking to all these foreign dignitaries and getting in uh a different perspective on on on what we're doing I don't think we're the good guys anymore you know I don't agree with a lot of the

[ __ ] that I was involved in you know as a as a seal or CIA contractor and and uh I mean I I mean like bricks are you familiar with bricks no British uh Brazil Russia India China South Africa I think don't quote me on this I think they have 22 countries now it's it's kind of like it's kind of like a counter to Nato uh it's all these countries that are tired of us tired of the tariffs tired of the weaponization of the US dollar and so basically what they're trying to do is

throw the US currency off the off the off the world stage and and pull it and use Chinese yen whoa and you know I mean that that would that would destroy us if all trade went to when if the world Reserve currency went to the Chinese yen that would that would destroy our economy and so but they're gaining a lot of traction on this and um so yeah I would love to go to any one of these 22 countries and talk to them and just ask like why are you doing this what what why are

you doing this because that gives nobody's [ __ ] talking about this [ __ ] you know and and I didn't even know about it until just now yeah there's no journalists talking about this you could look up uh bricks on X there's a page it's pretty I don't know if it's like an official one but um but they're always posting like updates about it and what's going on and so I think it would be I think it would be really important for somebody to go around and start talking to you know get getting another

perspective rather than what you know Fox and CNN have to say about it what changed with you that altered your perspective about us being the good guys Co really yeah I mean that's I mean I used to get like really upset uh when people would uh you know talk about you know the war in Iraq and the war in Afghanistan and and when I was still in you know and and I got so pissed off I moved out of the [ __ ] country and I was like I'm just I don't even want to listen

to this [ __ ] anymore but after diving in and and and and looking at the policies that came out and and kind of you know it's kind of like when it's just reflecting on on some of the policy decisions and stuff that didn't really make sense at the time when I was in that now I look back and I'm like man what the like I didn't have time to think about it then because it was okay go on the next opop go on the next mission whatever right and but now like looking back through

the podcast and talking to you know my podcast started with all my former colleagues and and and Mill and agency nobody thinks we should have been there especially Iraq nobody thinks we should have been there um it's and I just keep going down the the rabbit hole and man I I just I don't diving into the military-industrial complex D all the lies that the government has been telling us all all the unreleased classified [ __ ] you know that it's just it's over whelming and it's just it's created a a 100% complete distrust in in

government I mean the Dick Cheney stuff I mean you know about Dick Cheney halberton yeah have you looked into that yeah at all well he was the CEO of halberton and then halberton got no bid contracts to rebuild in Iraq for billions I don't think I don't think people understand like how crazy that is how big I mean it was the [ __ ] logistics company for for two Wars that's like that's everything Joe that's they're they're delivering your mail they're building your barracks they're cooking your food they're in charge of garbage they're in charge

of fuel they're everything everything everything that's logistical over there is halberton KBR wow in both countries and I mean you know I think people think Afghanistan they're like oh man you're probably on a tent or sleeping on the side of a mountain or something no man there's [ __ ] Burger King k FC Pizza Hut Thai restaurants I mean that's all that's all Logistics I mean it's it's [ __ ] it's it's cities that we built over there and it all was built by halberton wow who was who is you know the vice the CEO's

vice president in the [ __ ] country like what are you serious and now he supports KLA Harris yeah right when you see the left getting excited that Dick Cheney is supporting their candidate you know the world's gone Haywire yeah it's crazy the same people that used to think Dick Cheney was the devil now all of a sudden they're like look Dick Cheney it's yeah there's no nobody dive it's like nobody actually has an opinion anymore they're just told you know they're just told hey this is this is what we're going with for the next

two hours I wonder how long they can keep that up with the internet because the distrust in the media is at an all-time high it's it's probably it has to be higher than it's ever been in human history it ever been in the history of printed words right now more distrust than ever and at the same time you have these independent people that have become bigger than the media that's never happened before there's never been a thing where just a like an app that you get on your phone has 30 times more views than the

top show at CNN yeah that's never happened before but now that's the world that we live in and so propaganda is not effective anymore and it's also the delivery method that they use it sucks they sit there with makeup on with perfect clothes and they said right now in Syria and they start reading these things and they're reading them off the teleprompter and you know that that's that person could be working at [ __ ] Entertainment Tonight they could be working at you know any other show they're just a a talking head y they're just

no one believe they they know they're the mouthpiece for some giant Corporation no one thinks that's the real news anymore you have to be like old Boomers who are like real tired like those old liberal Boomers they still like MSNBC to the death you know like the Stephen Kings out there yeah yeah MSNBC to the death yeah yeah that's that's what I was saying about the baby boomer generation I mean I I think that the media I think the media will die if if if things continue just the way they are and the censorship doesn't

get too bad I think the media's done when the when the baby didn't George Soros just buy 200 radio stations yeah man first of all what a bad investment because who the [ __ ] listens to radio good that's a bad investment but second of all what are you going to do like because one thing that I do find is that uh right-wing talk radio is probably the only talk that's like the only place where you get a lot of right-wing ideas like there's a lot of like local right-wing talk radio the reason why I

know is uh my mechanic whenever he fixes one of my cars and he brings it back he's always listening to right-wing talk radio and so I turned my car on the other day and I'm listening to these guys argue about KLA Harris and the border and that she was the [ __ ] borders are you know they're go they didn't swear but they were going over this and I was like that's interesting like maybe that's what he wants to stop you know if you want to own 200 radio stations you just start firing all those

right-wing guys that's what I think you know you would stop a lot of that because I think that's where a lot of people are getting their information that aren't aren't using podcast because it seems like I don't hear a lot of left-wing am talk radio shows do you no no weird right it is it's like the one area that seems to be dominated by right-wing talkers well we're probably about to so but I don't I mean I don't know what a good move that would be maybe he knows more than me about how many people

that affects and maybe my mechanic I should ask him yeah I mean the guy's so wealthy I don't think he really cares about a a good investment you he's so old just wants a megaphone he well he wants to he's you know he likes to manipulate governments he likes to manipulate Society I think he thinks it's like his it's his version of a video game yeah yeah you know I think he genuinely seems to enjoy it yeah really interesting I think you're right I mean elon's openly saying he thinks that guy hates Humanity like that

it appears that way that is a wild thing to say it's such a wild thing to say and it's such a wild thing to do like a super villain in a Batman movie like some billionaire guy who likes to hire the most Progressive District Attorneys that's going to let people out of jail and then and then fund the next person who's more to the left of that person and just keep pushing it keep pushing it keep pushing it till you got tents everywhere violence in the streets you know he's done a uh damn good job

how come there's no right-wing guys like that to do it the other direction I always wonder that too I always wonder that well it's also like if you look at the amount of donors that donate to the left versus donate to the right have you ever seen that chart no it's [ __ ] nuts the left gets so many more donations than the right does like it's a giant difference why do you think that is I don't know man I think uh a lot of rich people feel guilty and they they get into philanthropy and

it also is a good way to cover their ass and make them look like better people and uh the people that really go after you if they don't think you're a good person are generally the left so if you could like throw them a little cheddar you like side I wonder if they're buying their place outside of the rules like hey I donated your thing you know I don't have to live by these [ __ ] rules got to be a little bit of that in there you know shows the top donors to open secrets.org

seven of the or six of the top seven are Republicans oh individual donors indiv oh individual donors what what I was talking about was like they showed a chart that had like uh Google Facebook um all these Mega corporations that were donating so this is like individual donors yeah wow some guys donated 105 million wow but that guy's probably worth billions that's probably some sort of a write off too isn't it that's pretty crazy go to um uh top Corporation donations uh via party CU that's the the chart that I was looking for it was

just nuts to see how much just how much money overall is being spent to push the Democratic party it's pretty extreme you know and you got to think why is what what are they getting out of that like what what's the what's the end goal and how could you look at what's going on right now and go this is great that's what I that's what I that's sometimes I think it's all it is a complete facade this is the number one this is uh corporations so they they donate more than Google top contributors organizations Federal

contributions um so 82 million is the top top one and that's uh Empower parent Pac and these are rightwing is that why it's red I'd assume so so it seems like the top four why what is what what is that Google chart that I was seeing and I don't even see Google on this is it alphabet would they put it under alphabet yeah I don't know I I'll try I'll try again okay this is this is open Secrets though it's yeah open Secrets might be like H well I don't know that's not donate to nonprofits

though just have top corporate donors is just all I typed in okay is this corporate donors to what though that's that's why I was wait I was programs that Empower organizations to do more so you could find promising fun I think that's fundraising [ __ ] I don't think that's necessarily political donors it's just all Camp feral parties pac's that's the individuals right this no this is the corporates this is the corporates on yeah so what was that Google chart then I know tyab the number two donator to the Democratic party was that Sam Bank

from freed guy which is crazy no kidding yeah that one seemed like maybe that was a good way to skirt around stuff yeah didn't work yeah this is what it says Google or alphabet gave on open Secrets it says they gave just under $10 million to contributions and then spent like 21 mil lobbying lobbying top recipients obviously Kamal Harris yeah they're all look at so Google's all blue that's oh is this who this is who they donated to yeah one Republican donation Never Back Down Inc what is that yeah no K it's a Chuck noris

movie it's weird because you know it's supposed to be the will of the people it's supposed to be the government works for for the people and it's not that it's uh it's some very bizarre enormous amount of money that's being spent to make sure that the people in power continue to run things the exact same way that's what I think they're really terrified about Trump it's not necessarily even that he's a republican it's much more that he's a guy that is not going to play the game yeah and that when he gets in there he's

going to tr like one of the things that he's talked about is having Elon come in and do some sort of a government efficiency agency they're terrified of that yeah because it's not efficient you know and he's going to come in with like that Tesla mindset it's like you're working 16 hours a day and you're sleeping on the [ __ ] couch we're here to get some [ __ ] done and you tried applying that to government that's you know yeah he shaved what did he shave like 80% of the staff off Twitter oh yeah

when he got it yeah he was like what's going what the [ __ ] are you people doing why do you have so many people working here doing nothing yeah yeah he was right yeah he was right especially you don't want to censor people like it's it's interesting how people react to it that he's ruined Twitter he's destroyed Twitter no he's he's you could still block these crazy people if you want you could still not see them if you want yeah but what he's allowed is everyone to talk everyone yeah and if you don't think

that that's good you're very shortsighted and you don't understand human beings like you cannot have human beings censored because someone is going to be ower and they're going to take advantage of that censorship they're not different than us they're not these incredibly benevolent beings who just want everything to work out well no they're people yeah and a lot of them are dirty dirty people dirty corrupt people that went to Diddy parties it's it's it's that control what they say control what they think you know it's wild it's a it's a crazy time to be a

person to watch all this go down at in the same time AI is being developed and we're not even exactly sure where it's at right now you know at any moment in time it could be a sentient force and AI is already um manipulating lying changing things in order one of things that they they put um this AI program they gave it a task and they gave it a specific a lotted amount of time and it couldn't achieve it in the a lotted amount of time so it gave itself more time no kidding yeah wow

they also have things called hallucinations AI doesn't want to admit it's wrong or it doesn't know things so if it doesn't have information it will kind of create an answer no [ __ ] yeah yeah and they don't understand why it's doing that and sometimes that answer is not true that I got to be honest man this AI stuff scares the [ __ ] out of me it should I think it's a life form I think it's the next kind of living thing I think we're going to give birth to it I think I think

we're just running head head first towards the cliff just feet on the ground full clip looking down not looking ahead and I think we're going right over a cliff with this thing yeah I did I don't I mean it's a tough it's a it's I mean what are we going to do though I mean China you know Jing ping has come out and said that he believes that the the winner to the the race of AI will achieve global domination so what do you do do you try to control it is it is is is

I is is Americans do you try to control it or do you do you go [ __ ] it we got to do it man we got to go we got to go or China's going to pass us up which they probably already have but I don't think they have I think one of the things they're doing is they're stealing our Tech and uh there was some recent speculation that China had uh gotten access to some of open ai's work they think it's possible which means it probably did happen I think there's probably a [

__ ] ton of espionage I mean this is the reason why um they Bann Huawei products from the United States you know I'm a cell phone dork I really love technology and uh Huawei had a phone that was coming out I was really excited about I'm like this is CRA like they were doing 100 megapixel cameras and phones way before anybody else they had a Porsche Design Huawei phone there was like this incredible phone it was like built better than any other phone it was much more expensive but built better than any phone that you

get in America and I was like wow these and this is back when I would use both Android and uh Apple regularly and then they they banned it I was like that that sounds kind of crazy only one company like there's other Chinese companies like yeah and then I started looking into it and it's it's not just the cell phones it's routers it's all sorts of things they found third-party inputs and and different pieces of technology and different ways that they can exploit and use this stuff to siphon information from networks like if they're attached

to a network at a university and they're doing research projects they can siphon that information they also embed students in these places that are beholden to the CCP these students rise up get their phds and and some of them wind up going back to China the the whole thing is really strange because we're such an open loose society that we're vulnerable to these kind of attacks yeah you can't buy [ __ ] in China you want to buy land in China good luck [ __ ] face they won't sell you a house they're not going

to sell you land near the m military base you out of your [ __ ] mind but in America we're so goofy we let China buy up Farmland that's near military bases yeah and then we let them sell us the cell phone towers surrounding the military bases and we don't even check them let them fly spy balloons you know Traverse the entire United States just apparently that was something they didn't want to tell Trump about they had they hid that from Trump oh really yeah yeah that was that that this some of this had happened

during the Trump Administration but they didn't tell yeah cuz he probably like shoot it down [ __ ] 100% he'd say shoot it down why wouldn't you why wouldn't you they did eventually shoot it down you know it bothers me though like maybe they're not ahead of us but I mean you know the energy that they're they're they're building coal mines every day to power all this stuff and we're we're going on about should we use fossil fuels or not yeah and and you know and we we just talked about how weak grid is so

if we don't beef up the grid and start going you know nuclear yeah then we're going to [ __ ] lose this race well not only that like how are you saying like California for example California is not going to have internal combustion engine cars by 2035 by 2035 you have to buy only electric cars that actually that went that happened that went mean it can be reversed for sure and it probably will be once the Great War happens but if you're going to say that and you have a grid that you have to shut

down like you have to do brown outs every summer because of people using the air conditioning and after he said that after Newsome said this about the this thing about 2035 within two months they asked people to stop charging their Teslas because it was wrecking the grid mind blowing right you're asking people to stop charging their electric cars so and you you're not doing anything to strengthen your grid like what are you doing to beef this up for 2035 do you have some immense project that you're building that is is going to make a much

more sustainable much more robust grid that's going to be able to handle 30 million electric cars in your state are you out of your [ __ ] mind there's yeah there's there's literally no I mean I look into this all the time there's there's no infrastructure going in to correct the problem because the problem is is is so big that nobody wants to tackle it yeah and it's a longterm Pro problem you know just like when they talk about like um putting in uh chip manufacturing plants like Nvidia just stopped its production in Austin see

what happened with that so apparently they weren't achieving the results that they demanded that they desire you know like you have to have certain tolerances when you're uh making these computer chips and so they set this plant up in Texas and I think they just canc the contracts for a bunch of people working there because they've kind of recognized that this is just not going to work what why is it going to work good question I didn't really get into it I just read part of it I was asking Jamie to pull it up I

think it's not meeting their standards Nidia is the company didn't they start buying maybe was Samsung I'm trying I don't see anything didn't Nvidia start uh producing all their chips in the ocean they're buying like these massive like ships really that's you I don't know I part of this there's a huge thing that Intel did in Ohio they're still trying to do it to make chips there for semiconductors or whatever and part of the reason this was in Texas no no I just say part of the reason they picked it was because there's no uh

seismic activity there oh that makes like in the ocean sounds opposite of that super sketch interesting why are they doing in the ocean though yeah I don't know I didn't look into I didn't look into interational law it was one of those articles I started reading and I was like I don't understand any of this [ __ ] but uh see if you can find the text one the canceling the it see if it's uh Samsung God damn it I was just reading it too multiple semiconductor manufacturing projects delayed in the US that well a

month old this popped up this is pretty recent this is pretty recent they were talking about they're not achieving the results that they desire which is my point is it's a long-term project in order to get up to the manufacturing levels of China at right now it's a long-term project we're really behind this yeah like they're way way way way way ahead of us they make everything and they make amazing things now it used to be made in China was junk made in China they make some of the most incredible electric cars you can buy

well the Drone game too I mean that's the future of warfare right is all these these drone swarms and uh DJI you know that's a Chinese company and this is this is uh this is going to be a big [ __ ] problem yeah uh when we realize hey the next one isn't going to be guys and caves anymore right Samsung withdraws its Personnel from that's it tailor plant located in Texas due to 2 NM GAA yields unable to improve beyond the 10 to 20% range that's it click on that so see what it says

so that's it is Samsung so this is an enormous project that Samsung and everybody was all excited Samsung was going to start making chips so the tailor Hub was initially planned to mass produce Wafers of advanced process processes below the 4nm I don't know what that means nanometer nanometer lithography lithography uh allowing Samsung to secure lucrative clients in the US unfortunately despite progressing with the chip making plant the company has faced a challenge that has become all too familiar with the entity ensuring healthy yields particularly with its 2 NM gaaa process the situation surrounds 3

nanometer GAA is not pretty either with business Korea reporting that Samsung's yields for this technology stand at 50% whereas tsmc has a significant lead uh as its 3 nanometer yields are in the 60 to 70% range so that's the Taiwan Semiconductor Company yeah so it's uh they're just not not good enough yet I mean they're they're doing it from the ground up and it's going to there's gonna be a lot of trial and error it's gonna take a long ass time you know I mean remember when uh SpaceX started and you know Rockets were exploding

and people were like oh my God the rocket exploded and Elon was like yeah we're going to blow some Rockets up because we have to figure out exactly what the tolerances are and how to do it correctly and this is all part of the process we knew this was going to happen yeah yeah you know and that's when you're doing something that's that enormous like if you want to start making all the computers here like good Lord that is a stretch they've been doing it over there for so long they've got it down to a

science yeah and you know you've got all these companies whether it's Lenovo or all they've been manufacturing laptops forever manufacturing chips and hard drives and processors and like to catch up with them good lord they're so far ahead of us yeah yeah it's uh I mean I don't I hope it comes back to the us but I I would just I would like to see us just start getting stuff from somebody other than China that would be nice be a great start you know well I think uh Samsung has stopped uh making their phones in

China I think they're the only country did they really yeah Google that 90% sure that's true this article saying that this these Nvidia chips which are like there I guess are ours cuz it's a silicon Bas or Silicon Valley based company M puts the US way further ahead of of China with artificial intelligence yeah the gap between China and US leading in artificial intelligence chip technology set to widen even further after Nvidia founder and chief executive Jensen hang unveiled Next Generation processors for what he called the new era of generative Ai and Robotics used in

Industries but we're right but we're not making those but the thing is the other part of it is like they're going to get access to this stuff which is this is the really creepy thing that people keep admitting is that it's it's very porous the the top secret information that these companies have Espionage is like super common it's so valuable it's so lucrative that you know they don't even sometimes they probably don't even know when stuff is getting siphoned over there well I mean you have to just think I mean it's Chinese from what I

understand it's Chinese law that anything any business that is taking that is being conducted within China if it helps if the technology helps the military or could potentially help the military than China than than CP has access to yes yeah and that's that's end of story so anything any [ __ ] thing over there that's being developed or or manufactured it's all of that technology is in their hands it's just it just is it's not it's not your countries like CH with China's doing is companies do not get to function on their own they function

under the wing of the government yeah they they they they they suck these American companies in with with getting around the red tape you know and and and then it's you know in the cheap the cheap labor cheap prices and then once once it's going I mean they control it that's you want this money train to end right now cuz exactly you're not in America buddy and people are hores and they just go over there yeah they take that money got a great deal thinking about buying a Jet yeah I mean we we've seen what

they do it's it's pretty amazing stuff you do you know the story about the woman who was uh working on anti-gravity technology no she was working on anti-gravity technology she was originally from China and then disappeared and went back to China she apparently was making some breakthroughs and uh came back to America and wound up dead I forget how she died but some some slippery circumstances where you're like H like car accident or something like that you're like h damn yeah it's like that's wild like the guy that came up with the hydro engine yeah

so oh that guy yeah the guy that came with the water engine that's a great story too but that uh this woman if if they've developed some sort of anti-gravity technology and I've always wondered when we're looking at these things that people are calling uaps or whatever you want to call them like how many of those are super sophisticated drones it's it's not zero it's not 0% like I'm not saying saying that there are not that there's not a real phenomenon going on that people are seeing that defies science and logic and might be an

a super intelligent creature from somewhere else or super intelligent thing from somewhere else if it's even biological at this point it might be that all life eventually becomes Digital Life and all life eventually becomes some sort of artificial intelligence or at least connected to artificial intelligence that might be like the pro progression of biological life that eventually create something way better than itself and that's what propagates the universe and if someone in this world has developed some sort of Technology that's similar to what they use that's a huge Advantage yeah yeah and that's the thing

that gets me about all this UAP talk I'm like if some other country had or if we had something that was just a game changer something that didn't require any propulsion systems at all it relied on gravity and it bends space and time and can instantaneously tra Traverse between one point in the sky and another that kind of technology is nuts and if that is in the hands of the United States government it would make sense that it would like help them to like spread this UFO nonsense yeah I mean do you you've Doven into

this more than anybody else I know I mean what what do you think this what do you think it all is I think it's a bunch of things I think there is a possibility a very strong possibility that there's life out there and that if I was life out there and I was much more advanced than us I would definitely visit us and there's also the fact that the the sightings kicked up in a huge way after 1945 after the the atomic bomb after they you know did the Trinity experiment and after they dropped the

bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki all those nuclear tests that they did in the 50s and the 60s that's exactly when the sightings start ramping up and if I was an intelligent life force from another planet I oh these crazy monkeys have nukes and then we'd have to you know you'd have to think okay do we intervene well let's if if they blow themselves up it will take so long for that planet to get back to a point where it has intelligent life again if they kill every person on this planet we're back to shrews and

mice and [ __ ] a couple of monkeys in the jungle how long before you can get a city again how long before you can get a cell phone again how many millions of years does it take and if I was an intelligent life force that realized that this is an error that can be corrected I would probably correct it I'd probably put a stop to the nukes I'd probably make a show of force hover over military bases shut down all of their Electronics shut down all the just to let them know yeah I would

probably do that but you know how much do they actually interview how many of them are there are there different ones I mean if there's one that comes here what who's to say there's not a [ __ ] ton of different kinds some of them malevolent some of them that only want us for our biology some of them that are just doing tests on us some of some of them that are you know kidnapping people and and erasing their memories and putting them back in the woods those stories are too common there's too many stories

that are real [ __ ] similar that like the Travis Walton story you ever heard that one which's that one it's a guy was a logger in the 1970s they he was uh in or was it Oregon oh did they make a movie about yeah Fire in the Sky I've seen it yeah I've seen it crazy story kind of like that uh do you know who who is that uh Chris bledo no have you heard of him what's that one Chris bledo he's a he's a guy that had an experience as well you've not heard

of Chris bledo maybe I Haven or forgot it's possible yeah he it's kind of the same thing his memories kind of on and that's what it sounds like and they all have a very similar story they they get medical examinations and there's girls that are were pregnant and you know like newly pregnant and got abducted and all a sudden they weren't pregnant anymore and they couldn't figure out what happened wow I didn't know that there's quite a few of those John Mack had this book John Mack was a psychologist who uh was at Harvard who

wrote this book I think it's called abduction and it's all like him interviewing people that have had these kind of experiences happen to them and this is this book was in the 1990s right so there was um you know I don't think these people got to share stories where they could come up with the same story organically like today you you've heard so many stories online about UFO abductions or crash retrieval or something that you could formulate in your own mind a dream that seemed like these things that you had heard over and over and

over again but when you go back to like Betty and Barney Hill which were one of the first people that ever got uh abducted by aliens they have the same sort of story as all these different people that didn't know anything about the phenomena didn't know anything about UFO abductions and then all of a sudden had one event in their life that freaked them out for the rest of their life and they take them through hypnotic progression these people should' hear the recordings of Betty and Barney Hill they're like yelling and screaming they're freaking out

like no one thought about being abducted by aliens in the 1950s or whatever that was yeah but these people have this wild [ __ ] story that's super similar to all these different stories that John Mack talks about and maybe there's different kinds of aliens maybe there's aliens that are just like our scientists that just come down here and study and and report on like the state of the biological entity known as the human beings and visit and and return and maybe they monitor us and watch us and make sure that we don't do anything

really [ __ ] stupid like give us enough room to we figure it out on our owns but don't don't intervene unless they're about to Nuke themselves interesting that's best case scenario yeah yeah yeah I don't I don't know what all this is man I just you know I I try to dive into it on the podcast and and have talked to you know a handful of guys and I don't know man some people are 100 like Billy Carson's all in I found out about him on your show too oh really yeah I'd seen a

couple of clips of him but I'd never seen a long form interview of him until your show that was a great episode he's fun you know he was on my friend Andrew Schultz's podcast and Andrew was like we're not going to check nothing we're just gonna let him let him go I no fact checks let's just let's just have fun and see but when he starts talking about like those uh ancient tablets he's an expert in like the deciphering of all those ancient tablets and he's got a lot of information on that those things are

fascinating cuz it's all the same stories even back then these flying ships and all these different depictions of things that came from the sky and these Giants and the Anunnaki and all these different things that came from some other place that had interaction with human beings yeah he kind of like mixes it with with uh biblical stuff right that's kind of I don't know that's what I lean towards with all this stuff to be honest with you is maybe I think there's some consciousness aspect I think there's uh I think there's I I I think

it is the afterlife it's possible that's for sure it it's possible that whatever these things are that come here they're from a some sort of another dimension and that we just don't have the ability to interact with that we're limited in our capacity as a biological entity to interact with these Dimensions that are real but we just can't access them we can't get to it we don't have the frequency we don't have what it is but in some cases under duress under some situations in some you know just like a person can be hypnotized just

like a person can go into a trance I think there's a way every now and then that people can kind of access these Realms and I think that's probably what some of these entities are I think people are probably having real experiences with something that probably is real but that normally you cannot interact with Y yep did you have you uh have you ever looked into because I think I kind of group all this stuff in together but um have you have you looked into the remote viewing stuff yeah I have yeah dude yeah that

stuff pretty nuts yeah I had a remote I did a the show called jogan questions everything and we had uh remote viewers on and we tried to get them to do things they couldn't really it was wasn't really effective but I'm also like okay this is an unnatural environment it's a television show it's it's like weird pressure the the you know skeptical people that are like looking at this and and I don't know if they're the real I I think it's probably a skill that can be developed but I don't know how consistent it is

you know it's it's like I don't believe in psychics but I do believe that sometimes you just know things and sometimes you get a premonition and some I think the connection that people have with each other is not as simple as like you call your friend up hey I haven't talked to you in forever I think we're connected somehow quantumly I think we're all connected in some sort of a weird undiscovered way and that's why like you're thinking about someone and they call you sometimes you know people say oh that's just a coincidence man I

don't know about all that cuz sometimes it's someone I haven't talked to for [ __ ] years yeah and you'll be having a conversation with a buddy and you just start thinking about that guy and then all a sudden your phone rings and happens all the time that's weird that's I I mean what they say we use 10% of our brain that's not real you know I don't think that's real you don't no no no they they what that was they didn't really when they were saying that they didn't really understand what the brain does

and what parts of the brain do and they thought that like we're only using 10% no it's like different parts of the brain have very different functions and under different circumstances different parts of the brain are activated I think just we have a a limited understanding of the actual function of the brain like the the whole thing thing and how it's how it's how it's making chemicals and making psychedelic compounds and and hormones and epinephrine and norepinephrine and all this different dopamine and serotonin and how it regulates your system and changes the way you interact

with the world it's all weird stuff man I don't think they completely have like they can't recreate a human brain you know yeah I you know some of this have you heard of uh Joe MCM monal no dude you you have to talk to him who's he he is remote viewer number one uh for the us but he's he's uh but he's not like kooky or anything like that at all he's really no how do you not be cooking your a remote viewer he just dude he just have a conversation with him it's he's he's

there okay no weird Vibes not for my end anyways but um but the way he you know I asked him I'm like well how do you like how does it how did it happen do you think does everybody have this or you know I was just a pinging him with questions and he said he thinks we all have had it since the beginning and that that I mean he was basically saying if you look at how animals communicate they kind of communicate telepathically and he was talking about you know caveman times you know he used

to point it [ __ ] and Grunt and Nod heads and look at things and everybody would know what you're thinking about and he goes and then uh we started traveling in in groups and then language was kind of born and he goes language actually slowed down our initial form of communication which was you know it wasn't maybe as descriptive but it was just as deliberate as is as speaking a language M and and and and then you introduce technology and basically what he was kind of saying is you know that our brains have been

kind of dubbed down uh from you know thousands and thousands of years of Technology coming out and language and all these other things and I don't lose the ability to exactly we we we don't I mean you hear it all the time you don't use it you lose it right you know and and so basically what he's saying is we're losing our instincts I mean that and that makes sense if you don't use I mean isn't that what the appendix is and the isn't the appendix an organ that we no longer need anymore because we

cook food yeah I don't know what is the the the the reason why the appendix is going away I think that's what it is I think it's a change in diet over time has made it unnecessary so it's like slowly being phased out of the human anatomy and that's why it ruptures sometimes but I don't think it has a real function anymore what it used to have oh here it goes the pending is kind of helping Us in two ways both with the gut it helps fight off invading pathogens that's one thing that is true

when they take out your penics like your immune system is not as good but also to repopulate the gut with this beneficial bacteria after after gastrointestinal issues so what is how did the appendix form and why is the appendix like it's there's a thing that was speculated about what the origin of the appendix is and why we don't use it the same way we used to why do humans have an appendix worm shaped modern researchers believe the appendix has many key fun okay okay here it is go to the top back it worm shaped tube

attached to large intestine the human body it's an organ that is credited with very little significance and often removed indiscriminately to avoid complications due to infection however modern researchers believe the appendix has many key functions in the human body and it protects the body's internal environment from infection what is the original origin of the appendix though that was the thing that I had read is it I think it was something about processing fiber vestigal okay support the theory that the appendix a vestigal origin that was once used by our herbivorous ancestors this is it it

was found that in herbivorous vertebrates the appendix is comparatively larger and it helped in the digestion of tough tough herbivorous foods such as bark of a tree so the thing is like we're changing right we don't eat like that anymore so it's changing and it's it's its function changes it makes sense that if we don't use the mind the same way our ancestors did before language we' probably lose this connection that animals do seem to have with each other yeah I mean you know there's all kinds of I mean if you if you heard of

people have you heard of people kind of how do I describe this me and my wife were just having this conversation the other day have you heard of people that kind of um they start preparing for their death but they're not realizing they're preparing for their death yeah I have heard of that it's like a it's like a intuition that they're unaware that they're going to die and so they start they start preparing everything for their departure yeah and not even realizing that you know that they're going to they're going to pass yeah I have

heard about that you know I mean I think that's just another example of I think that we have lost a lot of in itions and and and we don't really know how to go back and exercise them that's that's kind of what I think I think it makes sense I think technology certainly distracts human beings from human interactions and kids today are growing up more socially unbalanced and more uh their their progress is [ __ ] there's something about the use of technology that is certainly it's uh limiting kids' abilities to interact with each other

person to person yeah and over time that's probably going to be the norm you know and if you you wanted to think about the rise of spectrum disorders and lack of emotional connectivity and empathy that people have that that seem to have those especially like on the far ends of the spectrum and then accentuate that with like added technology constant technology each technolog is more and more invasive the population of people that have these problems it's like it's almost like we're moving towards becoming a different kind of person yeah you know my um um this

person that works for me turned me onto this podcast the other day and it was talking about how this is unverified but it was talk but it was still fascinating conversation they were talking about how how in I can't remember the amount of years but humans will begin to lose their peripheral vision because they're looking at a phone so much that that that we're evolve we're evolving I guess you could I don't know if I would call that Evol yeah devolving wow that makes sense it does right I mean it's like [ __ ] go

anywhere that's what everybody's doing narrow band of Focus right and the pro like if you look at most people's phone usage like what's the average person's phone usage I bet screen time's like 4 hours average I'll bet it's more more than that okay but let's say it's just 4 yeah that's a giant chunk of your day yeah that's I mean if you're up for 12 hours it's 25% of the day so if 25% of the day you're just looking like this that's got to have an ultimate effect on your vision damn especially over time and

especially if this becomes like completely normal for a thousand years yeah yeah yeah it wasn't a thousand years man it was like I mean I I it was way it was within our lifetime yeah saying that would happen but we're an Adaptive organism we adapt you know weirdly it's it's uh this stuff all just scares the hell out of me I I mean I think psychedelics plays a role in all this you know and and and accessing you know other information yeah I think so too I think it's a giant crime that Stu that stuff's

illegal and it's limited and it's limited into like you know right now they're doing some research on it and you know the FDA was going to approve MDMA therapy for benefits uh for uh veterans rather dealing with PTSD and they they stopped it and they they decided more tests need to be done meanwhile you're seeing like real results from people life-changing results and there's a lot of people out there that need help and they should be doing something and it's not hurting anybody dude do you want to hear the the best story I've ever heard

from that so I got a I got one of my best friends former GRE Bray worked with him at at the agency for a long time he was blown up survived survived like the worst [ __ ] car bomb I've ever seen like got up walked away dude's head's like right next to the car then gets out I don't want to mention his name cuz I'm going to bring up some uh symptoms but he then he he got he got [ __ ] shot in the head by 38 Special round in the middle of the

road and survived it and um I've stayed with him through this whole process when anyways couldn't walk without a cane was bedridden 5 six days out of every week hadn't had sex with his wife in over two [ __ ] years couldn't go outside without sunglasses on because because of the light sensitivity and i' been telling them hey you need to dude you have to go down and like do this Iain I nothing else is working I think this shit's going to change I wasn't even aware of all this stuff I I knew about the

bedridden stuff and but he was hiding at a lot uh hiding a lot of that [ __ ] from me and his wife uh got and called me and uh so I I got him piped in and to this program went down did Iain and did 5 Meo left his [ __ ] cane there went home banged his wife doesn't need the sunglasses anymore and is not bedridden and that was about 6 months ago and I just talked to him the other day it's it's he's still like good to go that's wild and dude this

[ __ ] happened like when did he I bet it was four years four years of like living through that [ __ ] I mean crack skull [ __ ] one Iain treatment one I beain treatment done I was like do you think you'll go back and like see what like if more benefits show up and he was like no I'm not I'm not going to do it but he's like not unless I start to slip but he's like I'm I'm like good I'm at peace I'm I feel [ __ ] great that's incredible you

know imagine if there was a drug that could do that there is but imagine if there was a drug that the pharmaceutical drug companies could sell that could do that yeah there would be treatment centers everywhere yeah are you suffering from PTSD we can cure you yeah here at IBO Genesis and then you go into that place and you get hooked up it be just like [ __ ] these gp1s that they're trying to give people to lose weight it'd be everywhere yeah everybody would everyone has stress everyone has trauma come on in yep and

they just be selling it yeah you know and uh I mean even mind like I I haven't I haven't drank in almost three years now really yeah I just I went down and did the Ia gain experience and like it it was just like have you done Iain no why not what what was good about it tell me what it was like well for me it's very effective for people with addiction yeah well there it is right there right I could drank it almost three years but um I mean it was like do you want

like the whole experience yeah yeah yeah um yeah so I went down to went went down to Mexico and uh I just kept having these guys come on my show and U first one was Eddie Gallagher he was talking about psychedelics and I was like oh no that shit's for hippies I'm not [ __ ] with that and uh and uh and then you know the the one that really got me was um I had this guy on his name uh DJ Shipley and he like I saw that one you saw that one yeah it's

great dude DJ is a [ __ ] beast bro yeah I follow that guy [ __ ] like takes Navy SE to a whole different level but anyways but yeah he like went out of his way after the after uh we recorded he was like Hey dude like you should really [ __ ] think about going down there and um I was like all right well you know I've done all the I've done like a ton of research I've talked to a bunch of guys about it i' understand like how it works now and so

[ __ ] it I'll go and so I I went down there cuz uh I just wanted to be more in the moment with my with my family I got two little kids now and and uh so I went down there and that was like I I felt like I was kind of like through the PTSD type stuff and and uh maybe not but but uh I I want I just wanted to get rid of anxiety and be in the moment with my family and da d d d and so I went down and did

the ibigan thing and you we took these pills and like the I didn't get a lot of visuals but the first visual I got was I was just sitting there like looking in this mirror shaking this [ __ ] moraca and uh my head's like I was like all right this [ __ ] is not working well then my head like it like split open like a in the mirror yeah dude it was like I watched my head like peel like a [ __ ] banana like it was just like and then and then another

head like just blossomed out of it whoa yeah it was really uh odd and then I was like all right it's definitely [ __ ] kicking in so I'm so I'm gonna I'm going to lay back and um and uh it was kind of to to me like the whole experience maybe I guess I just lost total concept of time it didn't feel it was like 12 hours hours but it it didn't feel like 12 hours but it did it didn't really feel like 5 minutes either but um I got like this Life review kind

of thing and just had these TV screens it looked like all black like you're in space or something and then these two lines of TV screens that were going in my peripheral vision and what was playing in those TV screens was and there it was moving like at kind of a slow pace and so like I could see what was going on in the TV screens through my peripheral but if I tried to concentrate on any one particular thing then they would like all just disappear until I until I stopped trying to like concentrate on

one thing and then they would all appear again and I could like look at it through my peripheral and i' I'd be like oh you know that was uh that was in bagh dad that's when I was 5 years old and my dad was like yelling at me and that was this and it was like but it wasn't like I wasn't like reliving um traumatic events they were it was just like passing me by like recording yeah like an old VHS tape yeah and um so I just let him like pass and then I went

into some other stage which I don't really understand but it was bunch of like these walls of stuffed animals and I was kind of like going through this Maze and then and like the last thing I talked about before I I uh before I did the experience was China and so then I had like this horrible this horrible thing about the Chinese Invasion but um but what came out of that like it's like oh well that that doesn't sound very good well yeah what came out of that I lost 11 lbs uh in literally one

week it's a weekl long type of experience I lost 11 [ __ ] pounds it's also heavy metals d tox her by the way so that's probably probably had like some heavy metals blocking me up or something but um the the the whites of my eyes like cleared up like and it wasn't just me i' like journaled all this [ __ ] down and then I didn't tell my wife any of this stuff and I came home and she's like uh your eyes look like a lot lighter like the whites look a lot lighter whiter

and and and my brown eyes looked like they had lightened up huh yeah and then it was also like I had realized every everything that I was ingesting that was poison it was like this going back to intuition it was like this intuition of like I just I was like you know I didn't come I didn't go down there to quit drinking you know I just it just [ __ ] happened man like I I was just like I I don't think I'm going to drink anymore and so I haven't had a drink in like

I said just under three years and do you think you had a drinking problem oh [ __ ] yeah man I had a drinking problem big drinking problem um but but you didn't think it at the time well I my drinking problem had been had digressed uh quite a bit so I mean I used to I used to drink a close to two- fths of vodka a day wa yeah and um but you know then and that was coming out of the agency I didn't have anything to do really and and uh you know I

was processing a lot of kind of what had happened over the past 14 years didn't have any friends was severely depressed whatever man uh loved to party um you know and that just it was wake up drink many bottles of vodka all day long and then uh at night you know I'd crack a fifth but by the time by the time I went uh there it was it was like a probably two bottles of wine instead of two bottles of vodka a night still holy [ __ ] yeah that's a lot of wine well I

mean that's yeah it is but um anyways uh came back and I just didn't want the wine anymore I used to take Aderall uh addicted to that didn't need that didn't need this ambient anymore didn't need anything and uh cold turkey cold turkey man weed quit weed for about 6 months and then and then uh yeah and then I went back but and even sugar man I quit sugar for about six months and um and it was you know the funny thing is man like it was zero effort it wasn't like I'm not [ __

] drinking and I'm not going to do sugar and I'm not going to smoke weed and uh no more Aderall I just didn't want it and there was no um there was just no urge there was no addiction left it was gone wow you know and that's the thing they say about iaan that it uniquely rewires your brain yeah and there's some sort of a scientific understanding of how it works but the fact that it's illegal in this country is bananas yeah I mean how many people are suff through opioid addiction it's it's an enormous

number and if there was a thing that we are aware of that could help all of our citizens that are struggling right now listening to this there people that are struggling there and there's a thing and it's illegal in this country yep as far as I know I don't think people are dying from ibaan you know ibaan was uh IR it was very funny that Hunter chose this but Hunter Thompson used that during was it the McGovern The McGovern elections it was like uh 72 whatever it was and when he wrote um Fear and Loathing

on the campaign Trail so he created a rumor that Ed musky who was one of the candidates had a severe ibba gain addiction and that Brazilian scientists were coming to uh visit him and and give him this treatment and it became such a rumor and it spread so far and it that it started affecting him and he was giving campaign speeches and he was denying it he was all sweating and he looked like a maniac and Hunter essentially derailed this guy's campaign by saying that he was addicted to ibaan of all things I think ibaan

would be impossible to be see if you can find Hunter on the Dick Cav show where he's he admits that he started the rumor it's it's very funny wow I [ __ ] loved that dude God I wish I met him yeah me too he was a [ __ ] Maniac that would have been wild but the fact that he used ibigan was really funny and ironic because that's the thing that gets you to quit addictions yeah I mean it's not a fun experience man there's a lot of I couldn't believe people really believe that

musk was eating EV I never said he was I said there was a rumor in milwauke that he was which was true and I started the rumor in [Laughter] Milwaukee oh [ __ ] that guy he [ __ ] everybody up because he would do actual journalism mixed in with fiction and you know he called it Gonzo journalism he essentially started a new kind of Journalism it's like like you you there was a an understanding that some of this was not real and you had to kind of like figure out what was real and what

wasn't real and he was just going to do it his way he was a cool dude man he was a cool dude that would have been a hell of an interview yeah oh my God yeah but the fact that he chose iig is kind kind of funny yeah yeah yeah cuz they they say it's like the one that you would you can't get addicted to honestly I don't think I could get addicted to any of them but yeah I don't think so I've heard of people that get addicted to certain psychedelics but I think there

I think there's people that do psychedelics to learn more about themselves and I think there's people that do it to escape and I think they escape reality with it and then they get used to escaping and then they they they choose that as their reality and they do it way too much I think there's abuse with everything yeah I think you can certainly abuse at least some psychedelics but uh the benefits of them far outweigh the negatives and there's a lot of people that are hurting in this country and they should have access access to

all the different things that could help them yeah yeah and the fact that you have to go to Mexico to do that it's ridiculous man I mean it's [ __ ] working you know I mean it's working and and it's it's it's just like why the what why why why why why can't you like let us I'm I'm speaking uh you know for the veteran population right now but like why just why can't you just let us [ __ ] get better right like everybody knows the 22 a day you know which is actually like

40 something a day uh veterans that are killing themselves and this [ __ ] is a [ __ ] GameChanger and but I don't think big Pharma is going to allow it I just I think that's what the hold up is well maybe that's something that RFK Jr can help yeah if they get in office yeah if they get in office I mean but when you hear about the five kill teams and you hear about all this different [ __ ] that's going on I mean October hasn't even started yet you get a full month

of October and who knows what the [ __ ] can happen yeah up and leading up to the elections yeah I don't think they're going to let up whoever they are I don't think so whoever they are and and not only that but is you know forget about the organization like to forget about like that there are people out there probably like Iran and maybe State actors or who knows that's trying to kill Trump what about this the [ __ ] General cooks that have been buying all rhetoric every day that he's a threat to

democracy and they think that this is the one thing that can give them meaning in their life the one great act that they can accomplish to go out and kill Trump I mean it's I don't know man I mean it's there's just there's so much that that goes into this like that first shooter right the what was he 20 years old yeah you know 20 years old then you got you know Trump's basically been in the media for what about eight years I think he showed up what about a year before before the 2016 election

right kind of went in so we're going on what eight years now of of the media just slamming him over and over he's a threat to democracy this is going to ruin the country you know so if you take that 20-year-old I mean eight so he's since he was 12 years old that's all he's heard yeah 12 [ __ ] years old that's all he's heard and little kids have no ability to discern so is it is it a very well orchestrated act to kill him or is it is it media manipulation that nobody really

thought too far into this and now it's all now we're seeing the consequences you know of of of what that kind of pushing an agenda like that will do it's probably both things you know it's probably both things it's probably all the above and the fact that 24% of Americans think or ped obviously pulled because those are the dumbest [ __ ] of all time anyway people that answer polls you always have to think of that you know like 99% of people don't answer polls so out of that 1% 24% of those retards are dumb

enough to think that it's a good idea to shoot Trump yeah and that the American people shouldn't be able to decide on their own that's what's really crazy they think they're right and you're wrong and no matter what they have to stop you from getting your vote they have to stop you from voting in the in direction that you are thinking you are going to vote for it's just a scary time scary time for the Republic really is yes it is like weirdly scary and also like weirdly chaotic in the sense that this is all

happening at the same time as the rise of podcast and social media and and new ways to get information so more people are aware of how [ __ ] we are now than like during the Vietnam war like people were against the Vietnam War and you know they they're against fighting the the troops in Vietnam War but they didn't really know what was going on they didn't have like full access to it like we have now yeah yeah I don't know where this ends man I mean part of me thinks you know it's just it's

part of me thinks we're just going to end in a some type of a civil war that's terrifying yeah yeah I mean that seems like it seems like it's definitely being pushed in that direction I mean I think it's I think we're all kind of already there just not it's just going to look a lot different it's a cold war right you know yeah you see these states banding together mhm you know you see blue States banding together you see bright States banding together you see you know a lot of Governors aligning sending sending National

Guard down here to Texas you know to to to to try to secure the Border you got you know these extreme look I don't whether whether you agree with me or not they are they're extreme and so you know like like the abortion stuff like you got states that are are making these like super harsh abortion laws like we're going to hunt you down if you get one and throw your ass in prison and um I think it uh I can't remember how many states now have passed Constitution carry is like 20 I can't remember

it's I think there's only like a state or two left that need constitutional carry but I mean I think the basically what I'm getting at is I think the lines are kind of like being drawn right now or the alliances are kind of forming up like hey let's pass these super uh super red laws these super left laws or blue laws and and it'll drive everybody out of the state that we want and it'll do you know what I'm getting I do know you're get you know I think this is all like kind of happening

naturally yeah I don't know what the solution to any of this stuff is I hope it's a greater understanding that we develop over time where we figure how how to communicate better and work together and I think some of that can be facilitated through AI if it's done correctly if it's like a real open- Source AI where people can get a real better understanding of the the actual mechan mechanisms instead of like whatever beliefs you have and why the system works the way it is if you could just have it laid out yeah factually laid

out where there couldn't be no Shenanigans you can't deny it I mean I think one way would just be having podcasters and and journalists I mean how the [ __ ] would you do this but you know one thing on like on my show and I kind of went off the rails a little bit uh the last month I got a little probably more political than I want I was I hate politics man yeah me too I mean it's the kind the they come up all the time fate of the country yeah you know every

time I dive in I feel like the I feel like I [ __ ] a hooker on a on a rusty couch you know what I mean it's like I don't think this shit's going to wash off me now but um you know what I'm talking about I do I do I do but but uh but anyways where I was going is I you know I people have just lost the [ __ ] ability to think for themselves like they can't critical think anymore and you know so like one thing that I do on mine

is if I bring somebody on that's I'm like don't say Trump 500 times on my show let's not say like [ __ ] the left [ __ ] the right like let's not say these [ __ ] Democrats and these [ __ ] Republicans like just just give me the policy just give me the problem just like let's just leave all that [ __ ] out yeah because if you leave all that all those adjectives out then it forces people to go well [ __ ] I don't really know it forces them to formulate their

own opinion because they don't know what their side thinks about that particular issue unless you're talking about abortion or something like that but you know what you know what I mean if you leave that out of if you leave if you can leave those adjectives out then I think Common Sense will start to make a comeback because it won't be so tribal it will be like well actually I don't really uh I don't I don't know where the party that I align with stands on this so I'm going to have to formulate my own [

__ ] opinion here and man that would do wonders we definitely need more people that are willing to do that too cuz some people just don't have the time or the interest to form their own opinions things yeah it's so much easier to just agree with whatever their side believes Y how did you get started in doing a podcast like what was the motivation behind it o uh well I used to teach weapons and tactics and uh I I taught uh Kiana Reeves for John Wick 3 and and then I got a lot of hate

I'll just put it that way I got a lot of hate uh from from the from the Special Operations Community from the two-way community and um and I was like you know what man like it's very egocentric Community anyways and so I was like I'm I'm like [ __ ] done with this [ __ ] and uh so I just started dude I didn't know what to do I was like doing camping stove reviews and I bought a bunch of [ __ ] alpacas and put them in my front yard and I thought I was

going to be a farmer and like yeah and then but you know what I did I was like I was like dude I'm so [ __ ] tired of like my guys killing themselves and going into depression and suicide attempts and I got sick of of the same Talking Heads on TV kind of documenting what was going on over there I mean it was a bunch of people who had never even stepped foot in any of those War zones documenting what happened over there so um so I I just started and I built like I

don't know maybe 250,000 Subs on YouTube uh from like gun stuff and uh so I started I was like I got to we one we got to document the history two there's a major [ __ ] suicide epidemic happening so let's talk about some guys that had had attempted uh I was I mean I tried to kill myself but let's let's get some guys that have really been through it dug themselves out of it and and and let's so it's so it's we're documenting history the way it happened we are talking about the the veteran

crisis that's going on and how people got out of it and then it also and then at the end of the every episode was hey let's like let's talk about your business you know because it's stories what sells so let's let's do the whole story and get everybody like super attached to you let's document the history talk about your vulnerabilities what it was like trans retransition back into civilian life how [ __ ] up it was how you ruined your family how you tried to kill yourself all that [ __ ] how you came out

of it and then let's talk about your business and so I mean these guys would come on and and uh you know their business would like jet launch overnight which I'm sure you you know um but and that I just dude I just like doing it I liked [ __ ] helping people and and uh and but I'll tell you like I started it was awesome I loved it I still uh uh there's nothing else I'd rather do I started I started feeling a lot of resentment um to my guests because they would come on

my show and then they would like pass me up business-wise like that and I was like [ __ ] man like what what the [ __ ] do I have to do to make a business out of this [ __ ] like I'm great at like jet launching everybody else's [ __ ] but I'm not making any [ __ ] money here and I got to family to support and this isn't going to work out and then I don't know what happened man but then something just like switched like God just stepped in and was

like you're doing good [ __ ] like I'm going to I'm going to bless you and and it I just like hit a turning point and um now I just talk to whoever I'm interested in but but well you're doing a great show and I think that's all it takes I think you do a great show and then the beautiful thing about social media and YouTube and all these different things is so people could just share it like I've had a few people I think uh Billy Carson I think somebody sent me that one and

you know it's just like someone would say hey you should check this out you know and just send you a text message that's such a massive advantage of YouTube and uh and Spotify and a lot of these apps is that someone could just send you a show like you would really love the show check it out and then you just click it and then all a sudden it's playing you know and I play it in my car could play it in the sauna and I'm listening to this and it it's a complete new thing that's

available anytime you want you could pause it no I know it's you I know like I one of the things I like about your show is I can 100% tell this is just you talking to these guys like what did you do like how okay explain that to me like it's just you and in this world of Talking Heads that has become a very refreshing alternative to a lot of people and if you do a good show like yours it just grows it's just people will find it you know people share it and it just

organically grows well thank you for checking it out hey my pleasure my pleasure why did you start yours I started just on a laptop answering questions like with a friend of my my friend Brian who I started with we were just [ __ ] around we thought it'd be fun to just do for fun you know I always wanted to do a radio show but I thought no one's ever going to give me a radio show you know when I was um when I was touring doing clubs back in the day where you would have

to do morning radio I would like to do it I would like because I have these crazy things that I'm interested in crazy stories so I'd come in do these morning radio shows and I'd be like wow what a great job that would be morning radio game I'd [ __ ] up and swear that wouldn't work and then the rise of uh podcast happened and uh you know Adam Cora had one and you know there's a bunch of other ones and then OPI and Anthony uh Anthony kumia from OPI and Anthony started doing his own

show called live from the compound where he's doing like karaoke holding a machine gun and he's out of his [ __ ] mind he built a television studio in his basement and I was like [ __ ] he can do that and do that online like I need to start doing something so we started out just doing this little oh and then also the Tom Green Show Tom Green had his own like internet talk show and I was a guest on it long before my podcast I was like you just got to figure out how

to make money out of this like you could see the the the seeds of my podcast being planted while I was on his show I was like this is amazing no Executives no one talking to you that and then I actually even was in talks with the company that was doing it with him to do my own thing with them but I just decided to do it on my own I'm like I don't want to do nothing with nobody I wanted it to just be 100% me just [ __ ] around and in the beginning

all my friends are like what the [ __ ] are you doing like why are you wasting your time they'd come over my house and my kids were really young at the time so like in the early days like you would hear we were in one of my spare bedrooms with a desk set up and you'd hear mommy she took my thing that in the background the kids are arguing with each other um so it was you know from that move into like a little uh Studio rented a little office space somewhere and and then

moved into a warehouse and got a real studio and then started having security there and then started uh well I should have a [ __ ] gym here let's put a gym in and started you know bringing in guys to train with and and then the it it just got big all organic I never did ads for it I never did put a billboard up I never went on other people's podcast and said please watch my podcast podcast never did any of that never promoted it it just grew that's awesome all but it's all the

same reason why yours is growing it's just I talk to whoever I want to talk to yeah you know I watched your show a bunch of times reached out to you on Instagram like what's up yep yep but the way you do it and the way I do it is I think that's why it's interesting because I can tell like when you're talking to that guy that was talking about the direct energy weapons and Antarctica all that crazy [ __ ] like you wanted to hear what the guy had to say yeah like you know

this is why he was on there you know this isn't like some producer has told you the list of guests that you're going to have for the week and you're not really interested in it you got to interview some [ __ ] kid in a boy band you know like I can't do it yeah I can't do it I like there's no reason to do it yeah you know when I when I started I was we started in the Attic it was me and my wife we had these [ __ ] cameras that had like

30 minute timer so I was Mike Glover was my first uh guest and so my wife was like running back and forth resetting these 30 minute [ __ ] timer cameras and I'm trying to run the sound and listen to what the hell Mike saying and I'm like this is [ __ ] awesome we're going to do this for a long time what year did you start I started first one got pumped out uh Christmas of 2019 wow yeah well that's also a great example CU a lot of people want to say that the podcast

Market is too saturated now like I've heard people say that oh it's too hard to make it in the podcast Market I'm like I don't believe that yeah I don't believe that I think if you got a good show it's going to rise same here and that's you thank you thank you well I studied the hell out of your show and uh when I was doing it and and you know I wanted to I I just wanted to make it different I didn't want to copy the the red curtain and and uh you know what

I mean and you made it yours yeah you really did and and it's uh that's the great thing about this and we need more voices like yours out there more different people that are doing the same kind of thing you know following their own interests talking to people honestly having these long-term long form podcasts like the the one with the guy studying the UFOs I think that's like four and a half hours long right which one is it uh what's his name John Alexander yeah I did one that was like nine hours yeah John Alexander

this one is uh how how long is this one let me checkes it say resume six hours on YouTube six hours yeah yeah it's 6 hours in a couple of minutes yeah of you talking to this guy about paranormal programs in the government I don't want to let him go no it was amazing it's crazy stuff man thank you listen Sean it was great to meet you I really appreciate you I appreciate what you're doing I appreciate how you do it and it's good to become friends hey thank you for having me Joe my pleasure

to be here all right bye everybody oh watch the show Sean Ryan show it's on everything right yep all right cheers all right bye everybody [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music]