David Goggins Reveals How to Master Your Mind | Overcoming Your Demons | How to Achieve Anything

to be at the point of your life where you don't care about being judged you can be in a room of a million people and they all hate you and you walk in and you go like this if you just got here yes we have some other obligations of course obligation yeah do you like doing the interviews no no I never did like them no no no I'll hopefully this one will be good for you oh there are good people get some Marvin that's great yeah yeah is there anything you just particularly don't want to

talk about no I am that's the best thing about me man I'm open book yeah wherever the the podcast goes is yeah it's good enough for me we've sort of a million copies of our book in seven months appreciate it thank you we were number two behind Michelle Obama for 12 weeks yeah they say all this yeah but the audiobook is something that we're pushing hard especially in the UK because it's easier yeah and we've sold over 650,000 audiobooks Wow the reason why is because it's the first time anybody's ever done the audiobook the way

we did it yeah I listen to Suze came out listened so okay that's all so you understand how we did concept right pop podcast part part radio show pal part reading the whole book so yeah and I'm used quite heavily involved with the chap who did it with you you still who still gone was it just a one-off it was a one-off yeah so you know we're trying to find the right ghostwriter is very hard yeah but it's not the ghost writers you found in your voice yeah so I had to find my voice I

actually brought three of the chapters right so when you give someone the chapters then they can read it in your voice okay I get it yeah so wasn't the ghost writers fault to begin with like the ones I didn't hire yeah it was my fault yeah so I was there reason you didn't write yourself I was you know I'm not a writer yeah even though I write all my blogs and all my posts and stuff like that but I want to make sure that it was done so 99 percent was me yeah I was want

to make sure that it was professional mmm so you will put that nice little toast on the end of it yeah so if I'm gonna spend this much time the product out there I want to make sure since I self-published it I want to make sure that it was done right yeah would you ever do one yourself do you think yeah easy yeah yeah even though I'm not a writer I just have a person edited this time and yeah I go from there yeah yeah I've done I've written 14 books okay I'm interested yeah yeah

and I'm actually it's kind of like coming in from the other I've written all mine and now I'm thinking about getting some help it's um I think it's better that way because you can sit back and just be the mastermind yes you have to sit back and say oh [ __ ] oh [ __ ] you can sit back and be a mastermind son sit in your bed at night time ago ah [ __ ] write it down and say look this needs to be in there and then you and works out well for me

and you got the accountability haven't you because he's so hard to sit down and keep yourself that's right because you're you're doing too many things yeah this way me my fiancee reread it over and over again I mean we we changed so many chapters yeah and then we rewrote him and then he helped out so it works a lot better you'll see it'll be it'd be a masterpiece yeah and how did you find him honestly he fell in my lap now 15 yeah alright I got lucky man someone someone new someone they see he's not

even a ghostwriter he just does it what is he a he's a journalist yeah never asked that a ghostwriter alright so he heard a bust my podcast was very familiar with me to begin with was helped most the other people I had to interview and they go and they wrote all these big books and I'm so raw and real I needed someone that was able to write raw and real yeah and that's how it came to be yeah because he is very natural it doesn't feel like a very highly edited scripted book I think they

edited when we got to edit it was yeah a half already yeah probably if he came back yeah because like don't don't change a lot because it's how I talk yeah you know yeah and I always prefer the audiobooks because like I listened to it and I hear I've heard your voice before I meet you right so there's that sort of remote connection there whereas if you read the book I can't hear your voice I don't know what you sound like you don't know me Yeah right no [ __ ] book Yeah right yeah great

so sure so is there Kirsten that Kirsten you can say whatever you want however you want it so if you wanna if it feels natural yeah okay yeah we're good with that aren't we yeah we've had definitely a few good ones though David thank you very much for coming and doing the podcast I appreciate you have me and you're here to your dinner public speech is that right yes it's my first time in London so I'm doing a speaking event about 500 people so we'll see how that goes tomorrow yeah is that it goes well

is that something you've done a lot of I've done a lot of public speaking yeah a lot of speaking yes and something you enjoy doing I don't enjoy doing it nah no you said you don't enjoy doing interviews and people go why do you do it one big reason why I can't stand it public speaking being on camera Isis started real bad growing up so you're always having to face these [ __ ] demons that come out of everywhere you know people think you know because I'm decently successful now successful not monetarily but just I've

overcome a lot and I have a nice-looking resume but I'm still everyday you know this badly so this is why I do it I do it for my own personal you know fears and younger thing but [ __ ] man I bet her stuttering his [ __ ] so you got man up man yeah it's funny that you're sitting there saying that like things like public speaking you find hard when you've done all the crazy and sane stuff that you've done because I do them alone right I do Malone yeah you know like I I

picked these hard things that most people think you can't finish anyway so you know you go out there you grind you're alone you're in your own head I work best alone right I work best alone so those are easier mmm you know I figure out a way to kind of challenge you know kind of challenge your mind channel it and challenge at the same time and I figured out a way to kind of just become have destructable toolbox and in your mind so those are easier yeah so and how are you finding now you're very

public right you would say famous you come to London which isn't where you live and you get recognized everywhere you speak in front of 500 people how you finding that face of challenging your mind in your life it sucks that's nice I'm gonna be honest with you man because uh but for some reason you know I have I have a gift I have a gift it's not a gift of gab it's just a gift to say look man I'm vulnerable I'm very very human I'm not God's gift I'm not Superman I'm not Batman I'm not

even Robin but I did figure out some things along my journey so if I kept myself introverted and closed in no one would ever you know realize man that that big hard tough guy over there man you know he's just some superhuman and they put a title on me this way had to break myself down let people know that anyone can be who they want to be mm-hmm so I think you're kind of like this paradox because on the one hand a lot of people are inspired by you right your book was big in the

UK as well as America when it came out I mean I'm big into audiobooks I listen to hundreds a year and I listen to yours as soon as it came out and a lot of people were talking about it and they were inspired by it definitely and they felt like they could be better versions of themselves but that's not the one actually when the other extreme you do superhuman stuff you do thousands of press ups you run hundreds of miles right so I'm kind of like its preparing for this interview I'm like on the one

hand he's superhuman on the one hand everyone can relate to him right so so GTC what I understand I'm trying to say yeah I get it it's uh it's tough yeah but so I had a starting point in the starting point was this very scared immature fragile kid but through figuring out this fragile kid I found out what [ __ ] through all this [ __ ] muck and [ __ ] this can come out the other end person that was 4030 pull up she was miles and miles and miles at a time but we

all had these ability not just to run and do pull-ups but these abilities that once we go back into our dark holes that a lot of us have a lot of us come from you know insecurities a lot of issues but we don't want to visit that place places scary places something that we want to forget about I had the courage finally to go back in there and organize that [ __ ] mmm get it organized in my mind and figure out you know where to start from so but the journey led me to the

so called superhuman stuff that I do now yeah so when he said you had the courage finally what does finally mean I was haunted so we all have these voices in her head we like to not listen to him the one that comforts us and keeps us nice and warm and cuddly and gives us cookies and milk at nighttime and [ __ ] we like that voice that voice the one we want to always share which is why people don't like to listen to me a lot some people do some people don't the only thing

that changes you is being real so basically you know I had to have the courage to go back in there because nothing was getting done mmm I kept on going to that nice cuddly voice in my head saying you know what you don't need to do this that's too much work man you've earned this you deserve this and that mentality got me to 297 pounds fat out of shape to me a loser to me making $1,000 a month and making a ton of mistakes because mistakes happen on the easy side of life you take the

easy road the easy path there's a lot of mistakes over there the hard journey you'll make too many mistakes over here because it's too hard you only repeat it hmm so it's challenging and if you would you say you've built this almost like sadistic quality where you almost enjoy the pain I don't enjoy it it's necessary yeah it's necessary so every morning I wake up it's not just about working out but for me working out has been a very big part of my mental growth so for me if I am not challenging myself every day

and I swear to God people will not believe it I was over almost 300 pounds twice in my life a person that does that twice in his life does not enjoy cardiovascular like a yeah so people can put anything they want to in their head I did realize one thing the things I don't enjoy that I still do that's where growth is at and that's for me the only place growth is at is in that very uncomfortable prio in that uncomfortable zone yeah so I have to visit it every single day mmm so I mean

when you say visit every day what sort of things are you doing daily to push yourself so for instance today I woke up and I just got to London and I don't know where to run here it's very difficult to run around this place so someone said hey you can run around out here like I run this one-mile block and I'm like you know what I'm not doing that so I went down to the gym and there's this like crazy elliptical trainer but it's not a normal elliptical trainer it's one that you like almost self

power and it's very yes no electric you know very difficult yeah so I've gotten that thing and I realized man this [ __ ] sucks and that's like two minutes like I don't want to do this so right then I realized hmm it looks like we're gonna be here for a while that's why I did that for two hours and 45 minutes Wow yeah so I'm not saying do that but that's something I did today watch my mind so you know what let's not do this today I said well since we're my mind went there

I redirected and said just for having that week thought we're gonna be on here for a while right so it does sort of sound like you're punishing part of your mind in a way punishment maybe not be the right word I want my mind to know who's in charge so for the better part of 26 years my mind was in charge of me yeah which is why I made all these horrible decisions once you take control of your mind you start making decisions for yourself versus your mind making decisions for you right do you have

any routines or particular habits that help you do that cuz it almost sounds like you've got an unconscious voice right and then you the conscious David comes in and sort of overpowers em almost right we all do yeah we all have that these two voices for me my routine is every night I stretch out that stretched out for two or three hours every single night without fail yeah it wanna stretch now I'm thinking about my plan for the next day now I'm thinking about all these different obstacles that may come up so basically a lot

of us aren't prepared for life we get up willy-nilly in his hope life is going to happen it is going to happen but it's going to happen with the prepared mind or unprepared mind most people attack life with the unprepared mind what I do is I try to account for all things that could happen might happen probably will happen and then the unknowns so basically I can't account for everything but I do know there could be some things that come up in life that you need be ready for I know for a fact I'm not

gonna want to work out tomorrow therefore I'm preparing my mind for that mmm I don't want to do that I know tomorrow you'll come with some difficult decisions to make it may come with getting a phone call saying someone died this happened that happened I'm always prepared myself not in a morbid way but just like look man be ready for life mmm don't let life just start attacking you left and right make sure that you start to build a mental armor so then you're ready for life and that comes with a very physical way in

the physical help start to mental mmm do you think that's a lot of thought your background your training the hell weeks you've done and all of that you think that's create that discipline in your mind it helped but honestly it was a I realized a young age how to change myself was to discipline in the military didn't teach me that it was some of us I had zero discipline zero self-discipline and I realized I have to start developing this and I started really because I was horrible at reading and I was horrible at writing I

have so many learned disabilities not even funny so I just sit down at the table it's been so much time in this reading and writing and and that kind of translated over to my self-discipline with with working out mmm so that's where it started I started off about 16 years old I said well I'm a fourth grade reading level you know let me go ahead now and start really focusing because I'm not getting the military can I got passed the test yeah that's where it started for me mm-hmm I think that's another thing why you've

been so popular is because you have these great strengths but you share what happened with your dad you share a pan with your reading your dyslexia and it's almost like yeah I know my strengths but I know my weaknesses and failings and vulnerabilities as well and you kind of own both right do you think that's important very important it's more important to own your weaknesses you got to really triple down on those man because why you want to become a full human being we like to run away from weaknesses like for instance if you're good

at running all you want to do is run if you're great at reading you have several books but we don't do those things that were not good at so for me I realized [ __ ] man like I keep on running away from these things I'm not good at I have to dive into these things I had to become one with these things and that's what happened and so I own them both yeah and I talk very openly about it both mmm do you ever have a diver you just think [ __ ] here can't

be us to do anything I'm not going for a run I'm not stretching I'm doing nothing every day yeah you say you have the filler you don't have to die every day ever let yourself have a day we always watch Netflix never because you guys chill Netflix I'm hard to know I can't do it I can't do it there may be some days I get up with poopy pants and I'm like you know what man [ __ ] this man like what am i training for yeah I have no race in the docket why am

I having this this such a structured life why and I'm like you know what I'm good we've done it I retire every day yeah I'm done with the [ __ ] and I sit around I say okay and then this is my thought process so you want to be normal so you just want to be like everybody else that roams the world not knowing the power that's in them being fine with being mediocre you want to go back to who you were hon Davis I don't like [ __ ] that man I had you have

that conversation with yourself every day not every day it's those bad days yeah those bad this guy see a whole bunch of people walking around out here who have no idea how talented they truly are now i'ma talk about talent like some god-given ability talent that sometimes you have to hone you have to work on and you have to harness yourself and they just walk around this on their phones this clueless how powerful they are mm-hmm so you seem really committed really focused you put your mind to something you achieve it and how does someone

who's ordinary or listening or watching get more committed achieve more success the biggest thing you have to do is shut off technology you have to go dark remember that is you have to be quiet in your mind and get away from people we love being around people we love talked and we love we love parties we love all that [ __ ] it's okay to be alone it's also okay to be unhappy it's okay to be unhappy sometimes man it's okay so you know what man I'm [ __ ] up so y'all go to the

truth first who are you you get really accountable it say okay Who am I what's the truth about me you get to that dark place in your mind figure out it may take months may take years figure out your purpose figure out what you want to be in life and then from there okay I have my purpose it may take a long time no one knows their purpose because it's too loud find your purpose from there all right guests are planning people love the planning phase because it's very comfortable and then from the planning phase

you get to go to execution so the execution phase would be all hate because that's where the real work begins and that's when the failure happens and the failure and the failure but you know that's that that's kind of how you have to do it yeah so is there any part of thank you by the way is there any part of what you do in your day they actually just really enjoy it's not overcoming demons or overcoming voices you just actually think this just actually makes me happy and I really like it what's funny man

yeah fiancee is one of them but honestly what's funny about this is people may hear all this and say god this guy's such a structured guy talk about demons getting over things that's not like it's whole life it's true but I'm the most peaceful person on the planet Earth even with like the conversations I got going to the gym I have to do is have to do that every day I'm winning everything I'm winning the the other voice in my head so I'm I'm very I'm I'm at peace of myself the things that do for

fun are like me bettering myself yeah I love sports I love watching sports but also love accomplishing and overcoming myself every day because every day is a battle every day is a better because your mind wants to choose the path of least resistance every day but you don't become better by by ever doing that you become normal and I don't want to be normal hmm so it may not be alive for everybody but I found a lot of peace and not being normal in my life so if you could define happiness for you maybe we

maybe we did there but if you could define happiness for you what would that be so overcoming yourself yeah it at all costs whatever that takes to be at the point of your life where you don't care about being judged you can be in a room of a million people and they all hate you and you walk in and you go like this because not because you're angry at them because you know yourself inside and out and you know that you've put yourself to hell to be where you're at today you've walked the walk you've

talked to talk and you've walked the walk and that's to me what it's all about it's all about putting those boots on the ground and getting after it every day and once you do that you have a feeling about yourself that no one can ever take away or even understand yeah so your book you can't hurt me I'll find the title really I think is a great title and forgive me if I'm being a bit bit bold here but I felt like it was a great title because I did feel like you're quite hurt oh

yeah with what happened you dad your upbringing I felt like you were hurt right and so this is paradoxical look uh you can't hurt me because of I'm owning my life right but I felt like you were hurt oh yeah life beat me the [ __ ] up bad hmm yeah I mean I was uh knocked out in the 12th round of a 15 round you know heavyweight bout I was knocked out but what happened was in the 12th round when the Challenger turned his back on me I was getting the [ __ ] up

and I got up in won the next three rounds and knocked out my forgotten the 15th round so that's my mind if I can't hurt me I was hurt man like you literally I had to overcome so much those first 26 years of my life and I still do every day today you know it's not over but the mentality of can't hurt me is just that I'm at what's in front of you man you have to face you have to confront you have to overcome and move forward so my father you know some of the

kids that bullied me my learning disabilities all these things I went through a life stuttering you know has so many different issues failing and failing and failing and overcome or they would it overcame me so I I'm a real believer sorry to just jump in but I don't wanna forget this point I'm a real believer that who we are and how we're living our life is to a certain degree trying to overcome the voids we had as kids right and how we were raised and and like I feel like that story of all the pain

you experience that is who you are mm-hmm yeah those those scars are real those scars are proof that you know your past is real mm so they're never gonna go away I own them but um I'm proud of my childhood I'm proud because without all of these lessons in life and everybody says it's [ __ ] I mean I mean because I was able to look at my childhood and how I grew up as the ultimate training ground for my life someone there has to be some people in this on this planet earth who have

my mentality as gross as it is to some people and as far off as it is and not understood there has to be some people like me on this planet Earth has to be some warriors out there that are able to take this mindset and do something with it so that right there once you are able to look at your life and realize that all these bad things are actually the ultimate training ground for what you're going to and you know encounter in life you start looking at your past very differently mmm do you think

that's still got your pause still driving you now everyday not at all no no long because that what I'm doing now there's not enough fuel in my past cuz you've owned it I've owned it so it out yeah it's kind of weird man once you own that and once you sort out that flame goes out but so to some Drive I guess cuz you have yes right I mean you're trying to get rid of using how powerful anger is it is a very very powerful thing but it can't overcome everything no were you angry then

I was angry once I was able to uncover the rug yeah and look at all these different shells that I collected over the years and say wow that [ __ ] me up and that will [ __ ] me up even even worse than that one and [ __ ] that one was real bad and because what happens is when you start to collect all these shells and these shells are bad things of your life and you put them in your nice treasure chest and you hide them you know because it reminds you of where

you're at but you don't want to visit him all the time when I started visiting these shells I was like my god man this was a it was a tough tough way to go but now looking back on a man I don't have any more shells mmm so now you have to learn to now what's your passion yeah so now my passion is still trying to find out what is what is left what is more is it can I be driven without the anger and I can be on what is left and what is more

for you I've only dissected 44 years of my life while I was still living I'm still in my live autopsy so you know right now until I'm dead I'm still examining human potential how far can the mind go how far can we go as human being so that's you know I'm the I call myself to Stephen Hawking's of of the mind you know he was obsessed with everything he ever dove into you know the guy couldn't walk or anything you know so he was like the mine that's one thing he didn't wanna lose and I

became obsessed with it cause it's the one thing that controlled me so I became obsessed with this where is this [ __ ] thing up here that just has me on a tight rope and this walks me into all these horrible decisions I'm making makes me feel so pathetic and weak and insignificant and dumb and stupid in everything I got to get control of this thing mmm but it's amazing that wants to get control that thing how far you can go what sort of things are you doing to get control your mind is it still

these fitness challenges and things or is it Fitness challenges are part of it but it's mostly now really I'm big into visualization and also self-talk but also like where do I want to be in life where do I see myself and then I start making these plans and how I'm going to get there and I don't deviate from that plan so that's kind of how I do them now I mean it's a lot more to it than that there's a lot of quiet time I shut out a lot of noise I only have people my

life that that need to be there if you don't need to be in my life I'm not about acquiring more friends I'm not about noise I'm about okay are you trying to go somewhere you can you can jump on board if not I don't want to hear all your problems give a solution for your problem that's I'm all about right now so I'm not about whining [ __ ] and complaining I'm about okay we need to go this way mmm so that's the biggest thing you said earlier and I might be paraphrasing the words about

you know you want to find other crazy people on the planet you know these other really people who want to figure out the mind people who want to do amazing things right have you met many people like that have you got some people that you look at that and you go yeah you'd be an adversary to me you you know you you bring out the best in me I don't I forget his name and I'm not trying to meet him anytime soon that's not it but I'm fascinated with the guy free solo mm-hmm I he's

another guy very to me even though I'm not climbing rocks like he did he has a passion to do something and he's in at all costs and what he was doing what he did I'm not so impressive what he did I'm impressed with how he shut the whole world out when he was doing it he didn't care about to me this I see it and I may be totally off I'm not trying to speak from out know him let me make that clear yeah to be able to pull that off you have to be willing

to accept death yet we won't accept you're not gonna see your loved ones anymore you can't care about your loved ones when you're in that rock nothing mattered to him with but that rock those people fascinate me those people who are able to put themselves in a place like that and very few people understand that to want something so badly I'm not saying that because I don't think he believed that he was gonna die I don't I believe that he was willing to sacrifice everything to pull that off those are the people and there's very

few people like that mmm who are willing to say you know what man you don't get me because your feet are nice and firm on the ground that's where you want to put them but for me there's more to life than that and for him that lasted I don't know three four hours left someone that took him I don't know it took him a while it's over now he risked everything for just a few hours on the rock and I've done that with my own self with my own personal life is I've risked so much

but but what he gained and what I've gained in these three or four hours in these moments are something that people will never never know because they've never put themselves on the rock for three or four hours and put everything on the rock and that's something that very few people can understand so they they think he's crazy and those the people I can't talk to you mmm because it's not craziness he found something like I found something I found this I'm exploring this he was exploring this he exploded on the rock I explored in different

in different venues so those that those are the amazing people that's where I find amazing who are willing to say look honey I love you but you have to understand something I have to go away for a while here I may not be with you a long time because it takes a hundred percent focus to pull this off I need quiet I need dedication these sacrifice from myself yeah I need full support because it's gonna cost everything to do this one thing that takes three or four hours mmm that's the dedication I'm looking for and

that's the dedication that does not exist in this world mm-hmm does not wooden you say does not accept him and you know like it's hard to find yeah so I say does not it's like this it does yeah it's so rare that you might say doesn't exist yeah I mean literally like especially nowadays the fact that he's rare makes it special it makes it very special but what makes it so crazy to me is so many people had that ability mmm they haven't taken the time to see what they want in life therefore he's crazy

I'm crazy they put a title on us anyone at i/o does to people a title it's the greatest separator of all time it allows you to go away and your comfort zone the saying he's just nuts he's special special person that gives you get out of jail free card you can go ahead and be normal now because we're special people no we found what we want in life it's all this so it is a very few people they're all confused life's confusing because they make it confusing hmm so when you say I'm fascinated by this

bit you said you know the sacrifice the choir the obsessive nature to climb the rock or to run as far as you do and the thing that you gained what was it that you gained in those few hours of doing those amazing feats what do you gain so in the first hundred mile race I did I wasn't prepared for it and I won't go deep into the story but I detailed well on the book basically I read 101 miles in 19 hours and six minutes unprepared [ __ ] on myself piss blood down my leg

had 30 miles to go horrible worst pain of my entire life in that 19 hours in six minutes that's all it was I lived 100 years I was able to pack 100 years in 19 hours and six minutes all the emotions the highs and lows the the trauma the failure the success the victories everything you can put in a life I put it in 19 hours and six minutes and the beauty that comes out the other side of that you what happens in that timeframe we here at Mile 70 and you're all [ __ ]

up and your body is destroyed and you have 31 miles to go and you're not 31 miles to go in the worst shape of your life with 31 miles to go it's in that 31 miles that I was able to crack open another part of the human mind a part that very few people are able to examine because why they're not willing to go there like back to the rock I guarantee you when he was climbing that thing and he had ropes on he was thinking [ __ ] man I can only imagine this is

gonna be but no ropes at all making some of these moves that I'm falling with ropes you have to go to a different focus the the focus has to be so heightened that very few people they even understand that but they have it in them they have it in them to go there but you have to go to a place of fear of suffering of pain of doubt and that's when your mind if it if it knows it's not going to quit it opens up and once it opens up that's my 40% room once you

can open open your mind up when you know it's not going to quit it finds more it finds more focus it finds more power finds more Drive and that's what gets you through 231 miles I said that's that's what gets him so hyper focus on that one little nodule to put his finger on and that's what you find in those moments but without those moments you don't know what you're capable of because you're living a very structured life without risk and do you think it's changed you as a person having opened that part of your

mind is it like something that you've seen that you can't unsee is it addictive is it something you want to a place you want to go back to again that it's not addictive at all because you don't want to live there you know but it's definitely a place that makes you look at people very differently because once you see it's different if if I was born with a silver spoon and everything was given to me and life came easy but knowing where I came from and where I'm at now just because I was able to

crack open a few more doors that's what's disappointing for me for other people you know so it's not that I want to live there I know I can go there mmm and once again I know other people can go there so I guess that's the thing with me is I know I had the ability now to go to a place that's very very hyper focused that I can accomplish some pretty amazing feats not because I'm amazing because I allowed my mind to be open minded for the possibilities of what can I achieve okay if you

said before failure you must have some pretty strong views on failure having anyone who's not read your book it's called by the way you can't hurt me if you haven't got it you should get it I think I understood the day it came out and you talked a lot about it in that book but you want to just talk about that briefly here you've your thoughts on failure how to battle it defeat it accept it well think about it's funny man all these catchphrases people always say you know a failure is a part of life

and figure is how you grow I've said all that stuff before but it really is a bunch of [ __ ] it really is man I'm gonna be honest with you man I'm so tired that I'll back already know I'm so tired of hearing all these [ __ ] cliche [ __ ] you know like goal-setting you [ __ ] posters and all that [ __ ] half the people who write that [ __ ] aren't even doing this [ __ ] you're talking about mmm half the people talk about failure you know they're [

__ ] there is sitting back at some nice house and we reflected talking about so it just it makes me [ __ ] nuts the reason why I believe I could talk him failures because I'm still feeling today and I filled in a major way and I'm and I'm living when I'm talking so many people who talk about all this [ __ ] there there has been there people who used to do back in the day not talk about it are you living it today so for me failure is it's something that you should be

afraid of it should be afraid of but that's why you should go out there and challenge yourself to fail because if you're not failing that something that means you've set your goals to pass to succeed everything you do which means you're not setting your goals high enough so for me okay I won't go out and break the Guinness Book of World Records for pull-ups lofty goal which is why I failed it twice before I finally got it I knew going into everything I've ever done in my life maybe still training three times before I got

it and everything I've ever done in my life took me three times before I got it I knew that there was a huge possibility of failure but what I gained from failure is this when you see a movie and you watch a movie about a person who keeps failing in at the end they succeed how do you feel after you watched that movie I liked it amazing yeah yeah I become the movie mmm I want to feel how I feel watching someone else in the movie when I watched rocky get his ass kicked and I

watched all these different things of failure I was able to put myself there said God man how much do you feel now that you finally got there that's what failure has done to me I want so many things it wants someone succeed at the end of it it's like god I want to feel like that but failure causes that one feeling hmm without that failure involves you don't have that feeling if you just pass and you succeed and you're great that feeling yeah okay I'm good what takes you years months years to accomplish because you

just can't get over the hump but you continue going back to the drawing board you're looking for those few seconds after you finally figure out the equation whatever the equation may be to get you to finally pass to succeed I live for that feeling but I can't get that feeling without going through [ __ ] I feel this equation I filled this one I felt this one I filled this 100 figured it out so you start to feel it before you even pass before you even get to the success part and then once you succeed

the feeling is unbelievable and you take that feeling of success to failure and you put it in your cookie jar you say I'll come back and get you again I don't need you again down the road in my life mmm to call on you so basically then the level of satisfaction in the success is directly linked to the size of the failures the bigger the failures the better the feeling of success right does that become addictive it does yeah it does it becomes so addictive that you don't mind family anymore mmm because you know now

oh I just [ __ ] next time I bit off on something real big yeah which means the feelings get me really big yeah so yeah that's what I mean it takes failure to get the best deal in the world mmm do you think the biggest battle in all of this is blocking out what everyone else thinks about you yes most of us fail in life because we're afraid of what everyone around you was thinking that's a horse of percent truth so we live by the narrative of other people when I first called a recruiter

to be a Navy SEAL denars torsion in 97 pounds the first recruiter looked at me and said you're not gonna be able to make this man so what he was doing was he's projecting his energy on me he knew he couldn't be a [ __ ] Navy SEAL so god help this black guy cuz I was only the 36th african-american to make it through in over 70 years how does a black fat guy gonna make it through in my ass even even want to try so he's projecting so a lot of us who are negative

people all we do is project how we feel on other people so what happens is there's a lot of negative people walk around the planet Earth who are afraid to try because everybody a lot of people are very negative in this world so we are afraid to fail why I told you man doesn't even try to dude just chill out relax why he's so crazy right so obsessed so all that stuff drives the the quitting mind I call it the mind wants to quit the mind is tired the my entire demise deserving the mine thinks

it's very deserving so yes the the biggest problem this world is other people not yourself it's other people in your head they are puppet master in you pretty much on your life and is that why your you've talked a lot in this podcast about getting rid of noise quiet aloneness is that part of that equation it's it's all a part of it because I realized once I was talking to myself the right way and all this [ __ ] wasn't in my mind wow I went from this piece-of-shit kid who thought he was dumb not

successful insecure who stuttered when I first saw somebody to a person who can now do all these things just because I now control my whole mind yeah I don't care a lot people say they don't care but they they care like my son says I don't care every time he says it I don't care it means he can't easy care when you get to the point where you really [ __ ] don't care you don't have to decide you're dangerous you become very very dangerous I'm not saying don't care like I don't care if I

do that no when you don't care about other people and how they view you about how you walk on you talk how you dress would you want to go with your life you know growing up I didn't want to anybody I want to be in the military because why some of my black friends I was afraid of what they think mm-hmm you know why would I join the [ __ ] military man how the [ __ ] you wanna do that [ __ ] I was afraid of what other people thought about me so now

I'm not going to military I know you wanna [ __ ] join the military I tell you guys afraid what you thought once again man you allow other people to shackle your mind mmm and so as to is the worst thing in the world do you think you could go the other way and maybe become a bit cold if you don't care what anyone thinks if you don't say your kids you know that is they're not the people around do you don't care what they think that's the thing about it you have to have an

understanding of what not caring means if your fiance and your kids don't believe in you you can't care what they think that means you chose the wrong support staff there has to be so ice wire a lot of people don't understand one another your support staff has to be like if I want to go out and do whatever it is my support staff is you know my fiancee if she's like you know what you know I don't think that you should be doing that I have to take it you know why so I could be

open-minded so so so why are you saying this but she's saying it because of her you know that's not that's not the right thing because I need backing to do what I'm going to do and open-mindedness I need support so yeah it's you gotta be very clear thinking about all that stuff are there not times though and it's just a question and if you've got smart people around you and they're giving you good advice and you're not listening to it can they could become a point when you're just so blinkered sometimes they don't listen to

good advice from smart people you gotta make sure they're smart and I've got your best interests at heart again that's it yeah so that's why I got like I said before like you know several minutes ago my circle is very small I make sure I didn't handpick these people because I'm like so so you don't want people in your corner they're like oh let me patch on your back forever [ __ ] you do I don't want people Pat me on the [ __ ] back because I [ __ ] woke up in the morning

no so you don't want that you want people who are honest with you were gonna tell you what the [ __ ] is honest honest and truthful people so someone who's honest and truthful who has lived is accountable for the whole personal life that's what you want your corner said hey you know you're pretty [ __ ] dumb for doing this dude like this is not smart or your being you know you're being a turd today you're not getting after it that's when you want your corner so you don't what a lot of people handpick

people to be in their corner who kissed their [ __ ] ass you don't want that no no so you're very selective of who I'm select yet but you'll listen to those people will you have to yeah you have to so what am i big one of my best cause I'm open-minded to the right people but I don't respect a lot of people cuz how am I going to respect you not you personally sure but anybody if you're not [ __ ] grinding every day and I mean working out getting the gym really going out

there and grinding so if you don't know how I'm living my life how am I gonna respect you so you have to be a hard worker period died you got work your [ __ ] ass off that's where I get it respect for you mmm so if you're working hard every day now you have an opinion in my eyes mmm but here's a guy who talks [ __ ] and you live this [ __ ] life of talking [ __ ] come on dude hmm I understand one thing you're just talking [ __ ] but

if I see you every [ __ ] day of your life trying to be better every day going through all the wickets to be better you got my attention mmm I respect you now so respect is the first thing yeah great emotions you talked about your mind is emotion and how you feel do you see that as the same thing or different and have you tried to control how you feel how you react to people anger jealousy hate you know whatever and trying some kind of mastery of that do you see that as different to

the mind jealousy a hundred percent you have to if you're jealous about anything that is a horrible thing anger I've done really well with controlling it nowadays back in the day when you're insecure so all this stuff comes from conquering yourself and once you feel good about yourself all the anger not all of it we human jealousy these things start to really go away he's like no I'm good yeah I'm good when you're full you don't need other people to fill you up because you're full that's right I think a lot of people they like

need people's respect they need people's opinions they need people's attention they need people's love because they're empty that's right and they're trying to fill themselves up through other people there's no one can live to your standard so you're always gonna feel empty that's how it used to be mmm so we created me lying it creamy being a dishonest person whatever I could do to get it to get whatever it was I'm a back to you Crescent buddy motion I'm a very emotional person so I'm very passionate because it took a lot for me to be

Who I am today hmm so I'm very emotional yeah but it's just the passion of me about the sacrifice I put into being who when today mmm so and sometimes that spills over sometimes you lose control of it it's not losing control I allow it to go mmm so I got this awards for the VFW called the Americanism award and I'm speaking in front of like 5,000 veterans and I get the award and I'm thinking people and I turned back to my mom I look at her and for 58 seconds just cried because I had

a chance at that time to look and see what I've accomplished and where I came from and I wasn't trying to hold it by to get myself together to give my speech but it was a very proud moment for me to be able to reflect it say okay man like you know you've not like I've earned that right to cry or to be emotional but it felt good that literally I grinded myself into a fine powder to get where I'm at today mmm and it just came out in that way so yeah emotion is a

beautiful thing you don't want to if if you're emotional that's bad yeah but if you show emotion at the right time I think that's a that's a beautiful thing mmm so it's still an essence of controlling it yes yeah because you have to you want to be in control of your mind you want to be in control of your mind emotional people they're rec hmm they control that emotion controls your everything you do yeah and what emotional people do is like for instance I always say this they can have a beautiful life husband and wife

kids everything everything they want but it's the one thing that they don't have that makes them emotional so that emotion makes them focus on what they don't have emotion makes them focus on everything negative everything pity-party what was me this didn't happen so your mind loves that it loves talking to other people how this is all [ __ ] up maybe you know think about it people love to [ __ ] and complain about everything so when you're sitting there you may spend weeks months years bitching about the same thing so what have you done

nothing hmm there's no solution in that yeah but most of us live there all this other guy got to pay raise every guy got this and I got that and we live in this emotional state of what was me mmm nothing gets accomplished mm-hmm nothing gets accomplished yeah so um penultimate question then we do a few quickfire if that's all right so it just got a few minutes left just in advance a thank you mm-hmm business so I business one of my big passions on our business and obviously you've commercialized very well doing a lot

of podcasts your book and of course your speaking so I don't want us off go into a question per se right other than can you just talk about your business interests how have you managed to sort of pivot your mind from what everyone knows you for to having a business mind and picking the right gigs speaking gigs and what's your speaking fee and going on promoting your book and all that kind of because that must be a different world for you right people aren't going to like to hear I got to say I don't care

or to hear it I'm not about money not about money at all it comes you have to first be authentic what is your [ __ ] brand there's a bunch of people who are doing business right now who don't know what the [ __ ] brand is they're trying to figure it out they're trying to piggyback off someone else let me take this and steal this everything I say another thing I do is authentic to me mm-hmm and I'm not out here trying to make money off of you I'm out here trying to help you

when you truly want to help somebody out that's when you have a business your business is when you truly are looking to help have a good product the product right now is myself like basically are you living what you talk are you being who you are so they're for me so yeah David Goggins I may not like him every [ __ ] day I know this guy every day I wake up I know he's out there doing something I know he's getting out so I know when he talks he's speaking truth whether it be whatever

so what I've done with my business is I made it very true to who I am as a person I'm not someone else I'm not trying to fake something and I'm not looking for your [ __ ] money I'm here to help you and when people see that you're here to help you that's when you can form a business but people can see right through [ __ ] mmm they can see right through [ __ ] so once they see the [ __ ] your business is done mmm you know authentic anymore yeah it's a

piece of [ __ ] mmm so people see true so sometimes in your business you may not make a dime for a while you have to gain trust of people you have to have a good product it has to be about the people for the people and not about you there can't be any underlining things with very few people can do that nowadays people a lot of people nowadays are slugs they're cockroaches - bottom feeders they just are they want that quick dollar it's about me it's about me about me about me if that's your

[ __ ] mindset your business is done some people make it but they don't last very long they don't last long so for me I come from hell I had to persevere through a lot I got judged growing up so all I want to truly do for people is I'm for the [ __ ] underdog mmm I'm truly I want to see you [ __ ] crush every [ __ ] on the planet Earth anybody that said you can't you can't you can't no but you you might be your biggest bully you might be tell

you said you can that's my business hmm whether it makes money or not give a [ __ ] mmm that's what it's all about man I want to see you at the end of day say look my head Goggins I'm not walking through the airport hey man you [ __ ] saved my life now I tell you about it go [ __ ] themselves man because I changed my whole life around that's the business if you can do that you're rich as [ __ ] mmm that'd be a perfect way to finish the podcast by

the way I got a couple more questions thank you [Music] these are quickfires mean you take as long as you like but we sort of do them you know nice and quick so best advice you ever receive do you remember what it was best advice I received was it wasn't really advice my grandfather when I was growing up I was being bullied all kind of [ __ ] my grandfather looked at me and he said you know what man you're not going about to [ __ ] because of how you hang your head so I

said hmm and as true and as real as it was it hurt and a lot of us what we do is we hide from the truth we don't want to tell people the truth we see people every day loved ones friends family members we see them walking around everybody's seen them and they're not amounting to [ __ ] the [ __ ] gaining weight they're not going to school but we live in a kinder gentler world so we don't say [ __ ] to them we just watch them fail because why we don't know what

to say or how to say it or we may lose them as friends or they may not love us anymore you're watching someone fail the best thing you may ever do for someone is to hey guess what brother you're a piece of [ __ ] right now you may not say just that way but that's what you may want to say to somebody look man I love you to death brother but your life sucks you're not you you are so much better than this man you're so much better I'm watching you fail and I can't

do it so the best advice I ever got was a negative comment from my grandfather said hey you make him out to [ __ ] yeah and he didn't mean it in like a mean way he meant to is honestly you're allowing this world to kick your [ __ ] ass and it's going to if we keep on letting it do it and it stuck with me it stuck with me for a long time mmm texted me today what's the worst advice you ever received which by the way is a terrible question unknown no nobody

comes out with good answer it's a [ __ ] great question the worst advice I ever received was from an agent and he said if you published your self publish your book you were so 5000 copies if you do this on your own you won't it no one will buy this book I saw the million [ __ ] copies in seven months so if I were took his advice we all know how that would have ended up a lot of people would have been happy now I've been upset so some advice that you get the

bad advice that you get from people a lot of times it's the best advice for them yeah most people give you advice that works for them especially in business so make sure it once against by having that good solid core of people around you that truly care about what is best for you not what's best for them yeah let's talk about the book for a minute then because it did really well why did it do so well you know did you promote it a lot to jump on a lot of podcasts and share it was

it just a message did it go viral why do you think it did so well it did well because I was known as this superhuman guy and I went on these podcasts and I was vulnerable I told the truth and the truth is a start line of your life I went on and told the truth about my life about look ma'am I'm sorry to let you guys down there but I'm not who you think I am all these accomplishments yes but this is where I come from and when you're able to be vulnerable and be

a tough guy at the same time it almost people are looking for permission nowadays and not saying that I'm the permission holder but like for a guy like me to come out after all the tough stuff I've done I'm known as the world's toughest man yeah that's just a title someone gave me but when you're known as that you do all these tough things you like hey man but check it out dude you open the door for people in my life not only was I not the smartest kid learn disabilities abuse father my stepfather Masumi

stepfather I got murdered stuttering obese the list goes on and on and on I broke down color barriers so one time when I went to do my book I actually went to book auction years ago they looked at me it was like hey man there's only like 15 percent of America's black okay [ __ ] you say they thought to only black people who buy my book I have like out of the million people that my book is most of our white and the thing I say that for is this story I'm not the hero

in the story you are I'm basically talking to you to make you think about your life and I'm being vulnerable to make you think about when you listen to a podcast or you listen to audio book or you read a book you by yourself most of us can't be vulnerable in a room of people but we're very vulnerable alone so I'm able to talk to you as one person even though a million people are reading the book it's made for each individual because that story I tell is touching someone's like to say oh man yeah

I experienced that [ __ ] behind you for coming I never even talked about that [ __ ] yeah so I broke down my barriers and that's why I did it on podcast and I did it and I'm giving you tools tools to help you get through some of this [ __ ] not like five-step [ __ ] no I went to the dungeon and I was the guinea pig and I figured the [ __ ] out and I'm writing about it I didn't sit back in a nice comfortable room and say huh this would

be a good [ __ ] book let me say okay the five steps are this and they write a book about it no I was the person I did the research you know I wasn't a theorist I was the practitioner yeah and people see that hmm okay thank you is that one thing maybe in the world do you think is really wrong that you'd like to change yes what's really wrong is a softness of this world everybody's not a winner there is failure there's tons of defeat we have to get that back that's that that's

growth that that is growth we have to everything everybody has I'm glad about as a voice there has to be structure in the world again there has to be accountability everybody is not right mmm everybody's not right kids are kids you know and and it kind of stems from there people have to get a little bit of toughness back a lot of toughness back because the backbone of of this world is built off of toughness not like I got a go off there and do push-ups and pull-ups and [ __ ] like that it's not

about Todd toughness is accountability you're not always right there's so many things I can say about this the world has gotten very very soft any particular areas and all of us all of us it's easy nowadays we have we're so technically technology so fast you know no one's even going to the library why Google the [ __ ] mmm everything is easy no one's ever code anymore no one's ever hot anymore everything is exactly the way we want it everything is exactly we want when we want it we are in and that's how the world

is everything is at our fingertips and that causes you not to use the most powerful weapon in the world which is your mind everything is easy so why so when things get hard how the hell can you rely on your brain when you don't know how to B's everything's so easy yeah so we're not utilizing enough mm-hmm because everything is just there yeah so that so our brains and data in my mind a lot you get comfortable with things and like you said you know it's like you have three degrees too cold and you it's

true yeah you feel wet and wimpy is true yeah I mean like it's print when I say everybody's running so yeah it's just it's just these small these horses say you know what I think creeps up on you you don't really know it's happening it does versus say no I'm a man yeah a lot of people like for instance I see men and women now are so much all the same I see women carrying bags I see women open their doors like this hole words kind of mist into one big one big person all these

customs and courtesies all these things are just gone like you know the second the that bell rings when the daggone airplane parks everybody's ass up versus a man has seen a woman that you sent by saying ma'am is this your back it's all these small things there's all these small sub-discipline always rushing we're rushing everywhere we're rushing people aren't holding doors or it's all these small things these small disciplines why do you make your bed in the morning time when I was in the military never forgot I was like a lot of [ __ ]

we folded our shirt up this way why why am I making these Hospital corners 45 degrees in them forward in my bed back six inches the size of a dollar why am I doing this all these small things that we do in life are building your mind up for discipline and all those disciplines are gone so that's the one thing that we're definitely missing it's self discipline and do you think your story and the product of you and your book support caution message do you think that is maybe pushing back a bit on that it's

pushing back a ton on it and because everything about it is accountability everything about it is self-discipline everything about it is no one's gonna save you no one's gonna come out of the woods and say hey I got your back man I want to take you from all this [ __ ] some people get that but very few of us do so the only person coming to save you is yourself and that's what the books about man don't look around the corner hoping I was selling this couch and hope for a [ __ ] miracle

yeah it might come to that 1% but ain't coming to most of us mm-hmm so you better start getting to work yeah before we went I'm live if you like you were talking about how your book the audio versions a novel unique concept right I'd like you to tell everyone you know where your book is and how they can get it but can you talk about the concept because it was the first book I listened to where I thought this is kind of like radio kind of like a podcast kind of like an interview and

kind of like a book all rolled in I think that's what you were going for yeah yeah so basically that's one of the big reasons why this off publish because I was able to put my Goggins twist on everything I did so with the audiobook is the first of its kind and almost everybody besides my support staff said don't do it this way you need to be the one that reads this and that's it no one's ever done it this way how we could do it this way don't do it this way so basically in

the audio book there's a bunch of me I have I have my a guy named Adam who's reading it and through the book I'm chiming in and I'm going even deeper diving in deeper with these different stories and we're talking off the cuff and this mean him are talking so the whole book is read but through different chapters and then at the end of each chapter so you hear me throughout the whole book giving more content going deeper giving the stories that aren't aren't in the book and it's just my own little flavor and there's

tons of stories that are in the audio book that aren't in the real book yeah and I take pride in because basically no one's ever done it and right now our book is sitting at I think number four so it's been at number four on the Amazon most sold since December Wow and we sold over a million copies and I'm self-published so most of it comes from the audio book we sold over 600 and I think 50,000 copies around there yeah of the audio book because of the do you think because of the concept because

the concept because you know basically it's so unique and it really draws you in yeah because I have someone else reading it you're not in it but I want it supposed to read it because you're the hero yeah this isn't I'm not the hero this book it may be about me but I'm really talking to you I want you to be thinking about your personal life and that's how we do we draw the listener in to the story yeah it make you say oh [ __ ] man like okay I'm in it now I'm living

this story now with this guy so but the fact that you're in it I think is also really important yes because people but it's hard to get across how you're like and your intensity and your passion with a voice-over artist you know somewhere now here and hearing you write like some of the things you've said on this interview of like oh that'd be a great time to finish the podcast but I want to get the questions in right but it's the way you said it not just what you said right yeah I have a different

delivery which is why I had to find everything about me is very unique and that's what I want people to realize we're all unique and all right now you can't be muffled you can't be muffled by these different voices in your head or these different people who doubt you whatever so it took me a long time to find my voice therefore I know what you're saying that's why I had to be on the audio book and how I write and how I speak is very different so but it's very primitive I don't overthink anything yeah

all of my takeaways in the book and there's tons of them in the book they're all very basic takeaways and the things that you can apply immediately to your life and I'm not trying to sell you on I'll give a ship you bite or not but they're very quick and that's how my mind works I'm simple stupid yeah keep a simple stupid man and that's all life things we overthink things and be in net next thing you know this very simple thing screw light bulb in becomes very hard yeah just screw the [ __ ]

in man no just screw the [ __ ] in that's it you're done yeah and that's how my life is now you screw the [ __ ] light bulb amen let's go yeah great and this podcast is really about disruptors disruptive people and what does that word disruptive me to you I mean the first thing that comes to mind is just what you said disruptive people for the majority of my life people disrupted my life but I allowed them to but what happens is over a pretty time you become the disturbance in your life because

you allow all these disturbances to get in your head therefore you have all this [ __ ] going on but you become your biggest bully yeah and once that happens it's over once it happens it's over because all you have in your mind on literally on a loop is negative self-talk yeah and once that negative self-talk is on a loop it's hard to get out of him someone once said to me the the best thing the best way to disrupt is to disrupt yourself before someone else does competitions friends whatever you have a thought on

that about you taking control of challenging yourself so someone else doesn't own your life that's the whole thing I'll talk about winning the battle in the morning so every morning I wake up I believe in winning the battle against yourself people say why do you say that because there's a lot of things you can control when you wake up it's about making your bed make your bed make sure your house is clean make sure you get your breakfast make sure you shower a shave whatever you're doing control that don't hit the snooze button all these

things are very important that's been told a lot of times why don't you hit this news button cuz you wake up already failing you're already behind the power curve so what happens we get this news button you may not make your bed you may not do your hair the way you want it you may not pick the right clothes out in the morning time and I go back to this real quick remember how you had a job interview for a job we've had several of them in our lives what you do the night before that

job weeks before the job interview we knew you had it you'd be paired you're you know you had a bowl out for your oatmeal your cereal we'd ever had in the morning time your coffee cup was out your clothes were laid out you studied you rehearsed you were ready you brought your best self you're going to ward your so because you wanted that interviewer to see your best self you won you got the job after a few months in that job you look around hmm I got the job start to back off the clothes aren't

out you're not ready hitting the snooze button you don't get up on time anymore you realize that you can still have this job and not be your best self the interview you is gone your job is gone you have your job but the interview is gone so we're in the balance of more time is just that it's that you wake up in the morning time when you own all this stuff because once you leave your house the world then gets at you and that's why I believe in them not not getting up in the morning

time checking your phone immediately everybody does that they get up the first thing to do grab their phone look at the phone maybe bad news on there so how's your day start off I don't go to the gym I don't make my bed I know you're caught up now on that phone that's how your day starts you lost control so once you win that once you win that battle in the morning time then once you go out now you've won you go outside your house you may lose your job you may have a bad hit

but you won something so so you're going into battle having already won something having already won so then if you this news button you go out you're just defeated already you're behind the power curve now you've won something you feel better about yourself so now you're able to take these hits along the way yeah so that's the mindset that I think it's important to bring with you every day you go everywhere you go in life when what you can mmm and that is a good way to end the podcast just to finish where can people

follow you where would you like to send people so I'm on Instagram I'm on facebook I'm on Twitter it's just at David Goggins yeah the book I saw published obviously can't have me can't hurt me it's a book title and it's on Amazon it's on audible yeah those aren't you spots right it was on audible oh yeah iTunes yeah but for the most part you know but but the audiobook is definitely the one I would definitely recommend yeah David be a time thanks very much very grateful I appreciate it thank you and kid thank you

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