Who is ACTUALLY a Legendary Super Saiyan?

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A lot of characters get called the Legendary Super Saiyan in Dragon Ball Z and Dragon Ball Super, bu...
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if I ask you who the Legendary Super Saiyan is I'm sure I'd get a lot of answers but not all of them are actually right that isn't your fault though Dragon Ball is a convoluted Series in a lot of ways due to the multiple continuities that have existed basically since the first anime adaptation began so let's go through everyone who is or isn't the Legendary Super Saiyan I'll even make a little chart to keep track of them what better place to start than the very first Super Saiyan who we hear about very vaguely in the
original manga the legend of the Super Saiyan with is one that struck fear into the universe often described as a legendary Warrior of the Saiyan race who had no equal this Legend was so well known that even the grand Elder of the neans knew of it and in hindsight it was likely written in the nean book of Legends like the Super Saiyan God ritual the Super Saiyan was said to be a merciless Warrior that had an insatiable battle lust but this was the legend passed down by the saans the truth about the original Super Saiyan
is something that we wouldn't learn until decades later you see Tori did an interview answering questions about Super Saiyans and one asked if the original Super Saiyan God and the original Super Saiyan were the same person I'm going to focus on the Super Saiyan portion of this interview since it's the most relevant to what's being discussed and I already have a video covering Super Saiyan God Toriyama tells us the first Super Saiyan was named yamoshi and he rebelled against the evil saans that were shaping a negative future for the Saiyans as a whole eventually Yoshi
was cornered by the opposing saans possibly seeing his comrades die in front of him and in his desperation he became the very first Super Saiyan Yoshi went on to battle all the evil Saiyans on his own but ultimately his stamina and the transformation ran out leading to his death and the legend of the Super Saiyan being born what's interesting here is Yoshi is described as a malicious Saiyan filled with an unquenchable battle lust but that's due to the perspective of the saans that survived history is written by The Victors and the evil saans that one
saw Yoshi as the enemy that massacred them easily until his power gave out so of of course Yoshi is a legendary Super Saiyan and even more specifically he is the Legendary Super Saiyan so the next Saiyan to talk about is obviously Goku the first Super Saiyan in a thousand years or something like that the 1,000 years part of the legend seems to be tacked on randomly at some point by the sence since it doesn't actually matter for the transformation in the Frieza Saga the entire Ark was building up to who would be the Super Saiyan
and it turns out much like Yoshi Goku was fighting an evil regime and saw his comrade die leading to his transformation this should be obvious but yes Goku is a legendary Super Saiyan and again you can even argue he's the Legendary Super Saiyan for the Modern Age the only reason people don't believe this is because of things we'll talk about later I just want you to think about it though would the Frieza Saga story make any sense if Goku didn't fulfill the legend of the Super Saiyan that was built up throughout the entire Ark of
course other characters go on to achieve this legendary transformation as well and that makes sense since unlike Oshi who died after unlocking the form Goku was around so others could see and understand how he pulled it off people want to believe the Legendary Super Saiyan transformation would be some one-of-a-kind thing but that's actually not necessary something the Saiyans used to think of as unobtainable or exclusive in the past turns out to just be something they feared because they didn't understand it this even happened in the real world mythology and legends made things like the weather
and natural disasters far more than they actually are so Vegeta Gohan Goten and Trunks are all Legendary Super Saiyans in The Bu Saga Vegeta is even baffled by Trunks and Goten accessing Super Saiyan so easily because it's the form of a legendary Warrior so while you may also want the form to be some exclusive thing in order for it to be legendary the story is showing how the change in the Saiyans that survived has led to more Super Saiyans existing because of their views and greater understanding I think it's safe to put these characters in
a tier below Legendary Super Saiyan not quite achieving its a legendary status by fulfilling the legend but also not too far off either since they do have the transformation in contrast to this we have the recurring non-canon Dragon Ball Z movie villain Broly Broly is in his non-canon movies the Legendary Super Saiyan the transformation that Goku Vegeta Gohan and Future Trunks use is nothing but a pale imitation of Broly's true legendary form and I hate this Toriyama subverts our expectations of who or what the Super Saiyan is is by having a vague Legend be used
to fuel multiple characters like Vegeta or Captain ginyu's misunderstanding of it until Goku ultimately fulfills the legend himself and shares a better understanding of what it is now that he's accessed it that's the point of the famous s Goku speech the Dragon Ball Z Broly movies basically say no that misconstrued Legend was right Broly actually fulfills The Legend and the conclusion of the story on Namek is worth undermining just so this guy with big muscles can Rampage across the galaxies I gu yes even worse you get the supplemental Dau a guide book that had to
tie up the Loose Ends from Dragon Ball's anime continuity at the time making the Super Saiyan types to try and make sense of what Goku and the others are when compared to Broly just to be clear the Super Saiyan types have never been Canon and still aren't Canon no matter how much the Dragon Ball Wiki tries to shoehorn them in to fit modern material it's entirely to explain anime and more specifically movie exclusive content anyway ignoring my opinions on it narratively in his own continuity Dragon Ball Z Broly is the Legendary Super Saiyan there's no
denying that but he is in Cannon so it doesn't mean much of anything let's just put him in a non-canon legendary Super Saiyan tier speaking of things that aren't Canon we have the episode of Bardock a sequel to the Bardock special that tells the story of what happened after Bardock got engulfed in frieza's Blast no of course he didn't die he got sent to the past where he protects planet plant the planet that would one day become Planet Vegeta before the Saiyans even arrived on it in this special episode Bardock becomes a Super Saiyan and
defeats chill an ancestor of Frieza who passes down a warning to his family to beware the Super Saiyan at least this is actually the right transformation but much like Broly this is a non-cannon continuity So within its own continuity Bardock is the Legendary Super Saiyan but obviously this story conflicts with the modern story of Yoshi so just like Ze Broly this isn't Canon so who the cares here's a fun one to think about though cell the first question is is cell even a Super Saiyan the anime gives him an aura that closely resembles the auras
of Super Saiyans like Goku Vegeta and Trunks but that's anime only he clearly uses what seems to be super saiyan grade 3 as a way to mock trunks but you could argue that cell is just doing what Master roshi can do I think that's a bit of a stretch though first he doesn't have Master Roshi's DNA people forget this but cell is only made up of five characters Goku Vegeta Piccolo Frieza and King cold so who's he getting it from second cell's form also sacrifices speed for power just like grade three as shown when he
tries it against Gohan but we've never heard of roshi having that same issue and finally when cell becomes super perfect cell he claims his power up was just like gohans and he has an aura that's exactly like Super Saiyan 2 in both the anime and the manga implying he was a Super Saiyan before this at this point there's going to be two groups of people watching right now people who think cell is a Super Saiyan and people who think cell isn't a Super Saiyan if you don't think that cell's a Super Saiyan at all then
the answer is easy he isn't a legendary Super Saiyan if he is a Super Saiyan though things become a little bit more complicated I think for a lot of people the answer is still no and I'd agree he wouldn't be ranked alongside characters like Goku or Yoshi but what about Vegeta Gohan Goten and Trunks I feel like if cell is actually a Super Saiyan he'd be classified alongside these characters to be fair though he is very different from them so I'll put him a bit below them on this chart I also very briefly want to
touch on the original Super Saiyan God this is the unnamed Saiyan that was mentioned in Dragon Ball Z Battle of Gods du to torama and Dragon Ball super reconning the existence of an original Super Saiyan God in Canon this character should be treated the way we treat Dragon Ball Ze broi an episode of Bardock Bardock a non-canon legend fulfilling character I think the answer here is pretty cut and dry though there's nothing connecting him to the Legendary Super Saiyan so we shouldn't either he's just the non-canon original Super Saiyan God I also think it's worth
mentioning the Universe 6 Saiyans while technically cabba and kifla can both transform into Super Saiyans it's important to note the universe 6 Saiyans just don't have a Super Saiyan Legend so does this even count you can let me know what you think in the comments before I give my opinion on them but I assume you're more interested in kale who's unique for quite a few reasons the first is her similarities to Dragon Ball Z Broly and that makes sense since she was designed by toi specifically to be like Broly due to his popularity but notably
she isn't called the Legendary Super Saiyan before you comment what about when Vegeta says she is hear me out that's just not what Vegeta says I don't know what marketing team at FUNimation translated this because he actually says that might be the sayan's true form as notable translator Herms pointed out at the time due to the vagueness Vegeta could be saying that all sayans used to be like kale or this is Kale's own true form both don't actually say anything about her legendary status but to be fair the Dragon Ball super manga does in contrast
to Universe 7's Legendary Super Saiyan whose L feared due to him killing evil sayans before his own untimely death due to the power running out Universe 6 has a legendary Saiyan this demon sayyan appears every thousand years and goes on a rampage with ever increasing power until eventually that power leads to their own destruction kale is clearly and directly stated to be this saian and is even shown to be destroying her own body with her power notably Super Saiyan Berserker the official name for the form kale uses in the Dragon Ball super anime is very
aesthetically different from its m a counterpart so it's more than likely that these are actually just different forms with all that said I'd call Kale the legendary Saiyan since that's the legend in Universe 6 which likely means that cabba and CIFA aren't legendary in any way which funny enough makes none of them Legendary Super Saiyans in any capacity so we'll put cabba and kifla in not Legendary Super Saiyans and we'll put kale in her own wrong Legend category finally we're back to Broly specifically Dragon Ball Super's version of him and I kind of get the
confusion here due to him being a reimagining of a a non-canon character but much like kale another Dragon Ball super version of Broly he isn't actually the Legendary Super Saiyan the big piece of evidence people point to is this line from a scientist early in the movie saying that Broly might be the Super Saiyan of Legend but that doesn't matter the Saiyans knew very little about the Super Saiyan as I've already established and this is more than likely a fun nod to Dragon Ball Z Broly rather than anything serious if we took it seriously every
time someone was called a Super Saiyan Goku and Vegeta would have been Super Saiyans way earlier hell even Gohan gets called a Super Saiyan in the Saiyan Saga before Toriyama actually fleshed out the concept what is serious though is paragus is reaction to Vegeta's transformation into a Super Saiyan in the subtitles he says like the legend and in Japanese he explicitly uses the same phrasing as would be used for the Legendary Super Saiyan name this movie was written by Toriyama don't forget so reminding us of what the Super Saiyan of Legend is was done intentionally
Broly does transform eventually but much like kale these aren't Legendary Super Saiyan forms this first form is iari also known as wrathful a form that allows the user to use the power of an ozaru without the moon or the cumbersome body size this isn't even a Super Saiyan form though so it's not worth discussing any further the next form is just called Super Saiyan but it's different because it's stacked on top of hisari form while this form is just called Super Saiyan there's likely an annoying reason for that Future Trunks over here decided to take
the name Super Saiyan iari for himself before off to a different timeline line that he's already in as far as Toriyama and even the DBS manga are concerned those are his two forms but toi added in Super Saiyan full power this green-haired form is reminiscent of Dragon Ball Z Broly but all it actually is is a more refined mix of Super Saiyan in iari like I said this form doesn't even exist in the manga and with Broly controlling his Super Saiyan form in the latest Dragon Ball super Manga chapter I don't think we'll see this
ever again needless to say Dragon Ball super Broly isn't the Legendary Super Saiyan but now that he has some access to the form of the Super Saiyan of Legend I'd put him with Vegeta in the half Saiyans so the final rankings are Goku and Yoshi as the Canon Legendary Super Saiyans Vegeta Gohan Goten trunks Broly and cell are Canon legendary is Super Saiyans with cell at the bottom of that list for sure cardock and Dragon Ball Z Broly are non-cannon Legendary Super Saiyans kale is a wrong legendary Saiyan while CBA kifla and the original Super
Saiyan God are just not Legendary Super Saiyans at all due to the universe six Saiyans not having a legend about it and Super Saiyan God being a completely different form altogether make sure to subscribe if you haven't yet and thank you so very much for watching
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