so people ask me like what's what's the what's the what's like the what's your biggest surprise in in in DC and I'm like the sheer scale it's Mass so you love the challenge well I mean to to the president Point that's the only thing you can say he'll never do anything I mean you do something slightly better and you save billions of dollars for the American taxpayer just slightly better when you say slightly tax support you go 1% better and it's like you know tens of billions of dollars saved to the American taxpayer now if
I may address the point that you question you asked earlier which is you know how do we assure people that they want know yeah how do we assure people that we're going to do the right thing that their that their social security benefits will be there that the the Medical Care will be good and and and and and in fact how do we make it ensure there's better Medical Care in the future how do we improve their benefits how do we make sure that their social security check goes further than it did in the past
and not uh it doesn't get weakened by inflation so the if we if we address the the the the massive deficit spending the sort of the waste in the government um then then we can actually address inflation so provided the economy grows faster than the money supply uh which means you you you stop the government overspending and the waste um and and the the output of real useful goods and services exceeds the increase in the money supply you have no inflation yeah and and you also drop the the the interest payments that that people pay
because if the government way too high yes the the reason the interest payments are so high is because the the the national debt keeps increasing so the the the government is competing for to sell debt with for with with the private citizens this drives up the interest rate so if you have a if you have a um if you cut back on the deficit you actually have an amazing situation for people because you get you get rid of inflation and you drop the interest rates and that means people's mortgage payments go down their credit card
payments go down their car payments go down uh their student loans go down everything their their life becomes more affordable and their standard of living improves how quickly because I think people are suffering now you we still living under the B you have States right now you have some states that operate that way they operate as well as any Corporation they really operate well yeah they have surpluses they they Texas is Surplus for example when they look at New York and and California and some of these places that should have an advantage I mean there's
a big advantage or pritsker does such a bad job in Illinois it's horrible how bad he is and they don't have that Advantage you know New York has Stock Exchange and lot of things and California has the weather and the Beautiful wether great weather the most expensive weather on Earth yeah but but I like Florida yeah but some states operate the way he's talking about effici when you go into some of these states you're going to find very little you're going to find almost nothing they really operate well big surpluses low taxes my taxes went
up the first time you were president because you took away the salt deduction which by the way I thought was the right decision it was the right decision in fact Reagan tried to do it because it rewards badly run uh States but at the same time it's a tough it was it's tough for the states I mean it really is tough for the states the sad part is it rewards really badly run States and Reagan tried to do it he was unable to do it I got it done you got it done and I and
now we're going to give some back how quickly can you balance the budget and and when do we start paying down that de well potentially very quickly between what he's doing and with income coming in from tariffs and other things I mean I hope we can do I don't want to give a date because then these people are going to say oh well he didn't make the date but I think we could do it very quickly we would have never done it if this didn't happen never it would have never been it would only get
worse and worse and ultimately it would have exploded this country was headed down a very bad track and the whole Dei thing that was a that was a trap that was a sick trap and you know we've destroyed that that's gone that's pretty much gone I agree we're not funding it I really want I really want to emphasize to people that this is a very important point if we don't solve the deficit there won't be money for medical care there won't be money for Social Security we either solve the deficit or all we'll be doing
is paying debt no so it's it's got to be solved or there's no medical care there's no social security there's no nothing it's got to be solved it's not optional America will go bankrupt if this is not done that's why I'm here the president Europe takes advantage of this and i' like to also just send a message to like because as the president said like there's there's lot a lot of rich people out there they should be caring more about the country because the reason they should be caring about more about the countries if America
Falls what do you think is going to happen to your business what what do you think do you think we going to be okay if if the ship of America sinks of course not like what what what what I'm doing here what the president's doing is it's just long-term thinking the shepher of America must be strong sheph of America cannot sink if it sinks we all sink with it this Europe This is what drives you this is important it says tech support so you're not trying to be president as the media suggest you are really
here because your heart and your passion is this and the president described you as being this is the biggest thing you've ever done now you're trying to bring sight there could be nothing bigger you're sending ships up to Mars you know spaceships up in the sky all the time and astronauts that's pretty big that's peanuts compared to what we talking about you agree with that well it's it's essential that America be healthy that America's economy be strong um and and if if that basically like my concern is like if if if America is the central
pillar holding up Western Civilization that pillar must be strong if that pillar falls the whole roof comes crashing down including there's no place to hide including his sh there's no place to run nothing there's nothing left why if this is your goal your motivation you're losing money in the process you're offering you do all these nice things for people for free you're trying to solve you know blindness you're going to rescue astronauts you help the people of North Carolina California you're cutting money that was sent abroad this not helping the American people then why was
like it was not helping Amer people and hurting people overseas to be why this rage against you now first they hated him now they hate both of you well I I think we're seeing an antibody reaction from uh from those who are receiving the the wasteful and fraudulent money they're being exposed yes nobody wants to be exposed with I'll tell you a lesson I learned at PayPal you know who complained the loudest uh and the quickest and the loudest and with the most amount of righteous indignation the frauders that's who complained first loudest and they
would generally have this immense overreaction that's how we knew they were the forers that's how we knew there to tell what did I I've never I've never met you before today and it's nice to meet you by the way then thank you for doing this you guys are really friends I could you guys I could see you kicking up your well he doesn't do this kind of thing and the way I figured that you'd get to know him is if I did it with him I said come on let's do it together he doesn't do
this I think he's smart in not doing it overall cuz you know I mean he's done very well without doing it but he doesn't feel it's really worthwhile he he wants the product to speak for itself or whatever he does speak for itself but he views it as you know does it matter and I'm doing this with you today because I wanted to have people understand him and I think it's very important I disagree with him that I think it's very important that they do understand him uh he doesn't need this he doesn't need it
now I happen to think it's made him very popular I think it's he's more popular now because there are so many people you know you're talking about the radical left they have the lowest ratings MSNBC is dying CNN is dying they're all dying the New York Times is doing lousy The Washington Post is doing horribly they're all doing badly because people don't buy it anymore but I think it was important that he do this one interview you've been a very Fair guy I think you were the right guy to do it if we could get
some radical left guy and he do just as well frankly because it's it's all about common sense they would attack him as being unconstitution fascist was important for people to understand he's doing a big job he's doing a a very thankless job it's really a thankless job but he's helping us to save our country our country was in serious trouble and I had to get the best guy somebody with credibility because if he were just just a regular good very good solid businessman he wouldn't have the credibility he's got the best credibility for this and
people also know he's an honest guy he's an honest guy he's just a very very smart guy who's done amazing things and this will be the biggest thing he's ever done because you know his companies are all great but if this country goes bad I guess where he is a little selfish is this he knows one thing and probably doesn't think but if his if this country go bad his stuff is not going to be worth very much I can tell you like I said if the if the shepher of America sinks we're all go
going down with it you know this idea that people can escape to New Zealand or some other place is false um if the central pillar of Western Civilization that is America Falls the whole roof comes crashing down and There Is No Escape do you anticipate you'll be here four years my last question um I'll I'll be as helpful as long as I can be helpful yeah that's a good question I mean I was thinking about that just now I wonder how long he's going to be doing it you can't get somebody like this he cares
and he's brilliant and he's got energy you need energy also in addition to those other things you know I have a lot of guys that are very smart but they have no energy they want to sleep all day long uh you need a lot of energy got a lot of energy he's doing a great job if there's any conflict he he will stop it but if he didn't I'd stop it I'd see if there's a conflict I mean we're talking about big stuff but he's under a pretty big microscope I mean everybody's watching him if
there's a conflict you're going to be reading about it within about 2 minutes after the conflict exactly there the the possibility of me getting away with something is 0% 0.0 I I've scrutinized to a ridiculous degree uh and and the other thing is that we you know what what's you know what's better than saying trust trust me is just full transparency so what we're doing with with the Doge Doge just go to doe.gov you can see every single action that's been taken mhm and and now and I want to be clear we are going to
make some mistakes we're not going to be perfect nobody bats a thousand but we're going to fix the mistakes very quickly that's what matters not that you don't make mistakes but that you fix the mistakes very fast all right they gave us so much extra time you can watch the full unedited start to finish uh no interruptions at all version of this interview with President Trump and Elon Musk uh just go to foxnation.com when we come back reaction to the interview we'll check in R prevous Mike hucke they will join us also Christy gnome might
be using a polygraph to get to the the bottom or who may be tipping off some of the gangs about pending ice rates straight ahead