Governo e Tecnologia | Expresso Futuro com Ronaldo Lemos

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necessarily get in response is that government listens more and if you are only increasing voice and government feels like there's no cost to ignoring all this increased voice nothing changes voice alone isn't enough you need teeth you need an ability to hold you know or take away power from government and shift it into other hands everybody has a platform everybody has this that but it doesn't mean that they're listening more if anything we have more noise and less ability to listen it's a little bit of a paradox this is a devastating security breach that was

leaked out of the Pentagon the most highly classified documents of the war the time says 7,000 pages detailing at the White House has been lying about the Vietnam War for 30 years the way they lied those days have to be over we used to think that tech particularly social media was a democratizing force I think you can't say that anymore it's clear that anti-democratic forces have also figured out how to use social media to get power or maintain power the danger is that it's leaving out people and just giving concentrating more power in the hands

of technocratic engineers and and you know secret agencies police forces and so on do we get access to the data too are we included as meaningful participants in the process that's the key question for me about all use of technology is what does it do with power does it concentrate it does it spread it out does it make it more accountable does it give it to people who don't have or does it keep it in the hands of just a few [Music] America technology approach fazer difference' Hadassah wuji technology podium pollution alcides inclusive services públicos

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a trade in today's world you can't do that unless you're online what is the inspiration for you guys I would always find myself going downtown for a conference or going downtown for Meetup for example around some technology or a discussion about broadband or whatever mm-hmm and I said to Bruce my co-founder what if we were able to do a meet-up in Harlem we were like hmm boy that'd be cool but you know let's see if we can get 30 you know people to come out and 500 people came out what was most important was we

were really good at writing white papers and technical papers and going to Congress and tottenham mayors but you have to have the community you have to galvanize the community to make this work so it actually put silicon Harlem in the position having the community at our side be able to have a voice at the table Harlem land of Swing and jive where the world learns how to sing and dance so now when they talk about hey let's make a let's have a test about next-generation technology it doesn't just get heard downtown we get to hear

it and we get to propose why not do it in Harlem this is the best time ever yeah in Brazil's history in our history in terms of infrastructure that's going to be built for what we call equity the infrastructure of Brazil and the infrastructure of the United States have often been built from one prism means men its middle-class men or better with a lot of college degrees you know the engineering degrees that live in the suburbs or live somewhere where there's a nice garage and a grass to cut we're at a different time now mm-hmm

where the infrastructure of Brazil and the United States has to be upgraded mm-hmm it now should require every voice to be involved from everyone the women the poor person the rich guy and to allow us to move forward in a positive way rather than get stuck or or continue to have an infrastructure that keeps us divided so the idea is to create a perception that Harlem is not only a home for music and food and conversation and poetry and all these cultural strengths but it's also a hub for technology for innovation for new ideas intelligence

is distributed everywhere evenly there's brilliant people in the favelas mm-hmm but what happens is if they don't have access and exposure to the tools yeah they can only go so far and that's the thing that we have to dedicate ourselves to to our children is give them as much access and exposure as we possibly can so that we're not leaving talent behind [Music] my virginity phallic you blockchain you modest technologist my's important prep fsy who services publics your corneas Ohi conversating brian behlendorf couch illustrator hyper legit cameras technologies nice importance but I was G block

chain want to go Vietnam mental wrongful act when do you think governments can be changed for better using for instance blockchain technology if it's deployed the right way it can be used to build systems that we can have trust in because we can verify because we can see that it's not a central database controlled by a central actor who can fudge things inside without our knowing but is a shared infrastructure and a shared data set where all the changes to that are our auditable and we can see what's going on some governments are creating like

CTO positions or chief technology officers or something like that yeah do you think this is the way to go I think that's an incredibly valuable set of roles to have CTO CIO chief data officer but it's also important to institutionalize an understanding of what does what is open-source mean right what does what does technology architecture mean alright and to have some capacity inside of government also for experimentation right to have a labs have a team of developers who do the initial prototypes for things right and obviously to work with universities work with other companies run

hackathons you know but try to make sure it's it's not just a top-level thing where that can be in the policy and the executive kind of level conversations and decisions but also its carried out through the middle management and through the people chartered with implementing at the same time the technology platforms are partly through thanks to Bitcoin partly thanks to blockchain technology in general and these distributed Ledger's now we know how to build cooperative systems cooperative directories without having to appoint Facebook or Google or a government at the center of those networks and so the

policy and the and the technology and finally the consumer sentiment you we're starting to realize the dangers of giant social networks and the aggregation of data behind the scenes and so all these three pieces of the the stool are kind of coming together and creating this demand for a different approach as a trifle Aguada quite Joyce Searles a luminous precise consuit auras nada de consumo a technology a la specialist for example nacreous on GDG Dada's digitize euro Trezza strategies para proteger o consumidor cuando escucho technology von phul aqua in brazil you have so many problems

of waste in the government and like poor management bad governance if you change this structure that you basically use for identifying citizens do you think government can improve even in local governments in the US it's 90% of the cost of it it goes to administration yeah and only 10% to the services so if we can even reduce that by 10% more goes to the services yes so the idea is to really take out the stuff that's very redundant however we don't want to take out the stuff that is actually when a human really needs to

solve the problem and so I my my worry and the caveat is that we don't go for efficiency and put efficiency in places that will not help the human we have to put efficiency into the the parts that will make it very make the system efficient and so that humans can spend their times on services and I'm actual problem solving and and so I think if if governments work with sort of NGOs and civil society that has these kinds of ideas I think that will be better so countries like Brazil and many others we have

a lot of bureaucracy in all red tape and that sort of thing you have to bring your document to five different agents the agencies they basically don't talk to each other do you think that can also help solve that oh there's some really wonderful solutions that are starting to happen around that and I've seen some some demos and some some governments like there's a Canadian one of the Canadian state governments doing a very interesting project internally in within their own systems to test how their agencies can talk to each other without making making the citizen

go from like a bee from flower to flower to each to each office to get done what they need to get done yeah so it will benefit the citizens certainly yes but the governments are starting to play with forward-thinking governments and that's what I really like is that within individual local because everything if it starts from the top down you don't really know what the problems are but I love it when it's a local government whether it's a city government or a state government that will start to their techies kind of get together and say

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if si si si es millones para no see dad owns a sh k hy 10 watt was Muto Granger we are waiting for elected representatives to demonstrate that they will govern in a different way the young people have to have the access and exposure not just your general education that we want to provide publicly give them as much asset access and exposure so they can find their passion and really be a contribution to your community and to your city into your country yeah there are some risks that were discovering that maybe we don't need to

maybe there's ways to store data in a distributed way to store data at the source as people are talking about I'm still waiting I mean and now we're like two decades in to the Internet age and and we still have the same old-fashioned politicians as you set for here is so brief food employer as the start tabs as organization instant promos and oh it's a cheaper juice constancy of the technology for your protein C allergies are Amelia Rasmus as leaders my program [Music]