11 Lessons From 900 Episodes - Alex Hormozi, Mark Manson & Winston Churchill

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all right what's happening people welcome back to the show it is the 900th episode of Modern wisdom big number didn't think that I would do 900 of anything I don't know whether I ever have done 900 of anything uh but today I'm going to go through some lessons I've learned over the last 100 episodes from life and from reading and from the show and from other stuff so you're going to get to learn that you're also going to get to indulge in this beautiful facial hair for a while I don't know how long this mustache
will last so you limited time offer for you to be able to enjoy it so bask in the reflective Glory of my upper lip and let's get into it so the first one uh I was trying to put a name to this idea for a while and I came up with unteachable lessons it's a special category of lesson one that you can't discover without experiencing it firsthand so there is a certain subset of advice that for some reason we all refuse to learn through instruction no matter how arduous or costly or effortful it's going to
be for us to find out for ourselves we prefer to disregard the mountains of warnings that we get from our elders and songs and literature and historical catastrophes and public scandals and instead we think some version of yeah that might be true for them but not for me we decide to learn the hard lessons the hard way over and over again and unfortunately they all seem to be the big things too it's never insights about how to put a level shelves or charmingly introduce yourself at a cocktail party instead we spend most of our Lives
learning firsthand the most important lessons that the previous generation already warned us about things like money won't make you happy or fame won't fix yourself or you don't love that pretty girl she's just hot and difficult to get or nothing is as important as you think it is when you're thinking about it uh you will regret working too much worrying isn't improving your performance all of your fears are a waste of time you should see your parents more you'll be fine after the breakup and you'll be grateful that you did it uh it's perfectly okay
to cut toxic people out of your life and even listening to that list back I find myself sort of rolling my eyes at how [ __ ] trite it is because they are all basic [ __ ] obvious insights that everybody has heard before but if they're so basic why does everybody so reliably fall prey to them consistently throughout our lives and if they're so obvious why do people who have recently become famous or wealthy or lost a parent or gone through a breakup start to Proclaim those facts with the sort of renewed grandio ceremony
of someone who's just gone through religious Revelation it's strange that stuff everybody kind of accepts as being true we all are surprised about when it happens to us and the other thing is it is a very contentious list of points to say on the internet so if I have an interview with a billionaire who says that all of his money didn't make him happy or a movie star who says that her Fame felt like a prison uh the internet quite reliably will tear them apart for being ungrateful and out of touch don't you know that
there's people that are struggling oh my God how toned deaf could you be uh so not only do we refuse to learn the lessons we even refuse to hear the message from the people warning us about them and even more than that for every single one of those lessons if I think a little bit deeper I can probably recall a time including right now where I convinced myself that I was the exception to the rule that my particular mental makeup or life situation or historical wounds or dreams for the future render me immune to these
lessons being applicable no no no no my my unique inner landscape would be fixed by skirting around some of the most well-known wisdom of the ages it's like no no no no I can thread this needle properly Watch Me dance through this Minefield and avoid all of the trip wires that everyone else is kicked and then you kick one and you then share a sort of knowing luck with someone else who also learned one of these unteachable lessons and it's the kind of luck that can only occur between two people who have been hurt in
the exact same way and a little voice in the back of your mind will say I told you so and these unteachable lessons I guess play into a broader idea of there's certain areas of life that you just can't expedite I I wonder whether it's because it's so alluring you know Fame uh sexiness Ador ation money uh the distraction of doing something that isn't seeing your parents and forgetting how sort of time moves and that one day they're going to be gone a lot of those lists that list of of questions and points all play
on things that we really really want stuff that feels urgent that gets in the way of things that are maybe more important and um you will reliably kick the trip wise of many of those throughout your life and I get the sense that this is a unique category of lesson that just comes along for the ride as a byproduct of getting older that trying to expedite it trying to get there a bit quicker uh maybe you can do it but there's very few people I know who have been able to say I don't want the
pretty girl who's difficult to get I don't want money Fame I don't get distracted from seeing my parents I don't work too much without burning myself out first there's very few people who get to that realization without having been burned so painfully and maybe that's it as well that the Allure of the success of these things or the distraction away from stuff that's important is so strong that it takes a ridiculously painful event to actually drive the nail into the coffin of whatever this lesson is but yeah uh unteachable lessons I think it's sort of
when you see it you can't unsee it and um I'm watching them pop up every I do think as well uh the sort of audience that listens to Modern wisdom is cool because the nuance and the ability to sit with this person who's rich is saying that being rich didn't fix their problems that makes me who wants to be richer feel upset which like everybody right everybody wants to be richer than they are and there's only a few people who have said I've reached like [ __ ] you money escape velocity post money life uh
but I don't see that so much on the channel anymore which is good and makes me feel uh proud of you so hoay well done uh another lesson this was one of my favorites I've been trying to put a name to for ages as well um I've been trying to work out what sort of friends I wanted to spend the most time around and whether they were charismatic or sort of engaging or what it was about them that made them magnetic to me and I came up with this idea called reverse Charisma so Jenny Jerome
who is Winston Churchill's mother who was Winston Churchill's mother dined with both prime minister Benjamin Disraeli and his rival William Gladstone on consecutive nights back toback and she got asked about her impressions of the two different men and she said when I left the dining room after sitting next to Gladstone I thought that he was the cleverest man in England but when I sat next to Disraeli I left feeling like I was the cleverest woman and I think most people assume that they want to be charismatic they want their energy to be compelling their stories
to be electric they want to walk into a room and everybody be impressed magnetized to them but when I started to think about the friends I love and want to spend the most time with they didn't necessarily have Charisma they had reverse Charisma and I guess the question is why do certain people make us feel boring but others don't why is it that we feel full of stories and inspiration around some people but around others we've got nothing to say and we try to assess other people based on how interesting they are and because of
that we miss a much more important issue which is how interesting they make us feel like how engaged is this person and how much of us can they tolerate and how much of our reality can they handle without us having to edit ourselves how encouraging and reassuring are they and how much do they make us want to dig deeper and talk more and how comfortably can we sit in silence without needing to fill it that basically how much of us do they get and if it's not a lot then we're inevitably going to be cautious
and a person feels interesting precisely to the extent that they have become familiar and at ease with the things that are extreme and sad and dark and agonizing and shameful and joyous and exciting and if they are at home with their own strangeness then they help us to feel at home with ours where they have gone we can follow what they have felt safe exploring in themselves we will be able to safely unpack around them and this was the sort of realization that architecting your charisma is a nebulous and Scrappy task that autistic pickup artists
gave themselves existential crises failing at but building reverse Charisma is something that anyone can do by being curious and patient and encouraging some people feel interesting some people make us feel interesting and there's a place for both but on average our favorite people are the latter not the former and it's way easier to be someone who makes people feel interesting than it is to be interesting like when you that was the whole point with the pickup artist movement that they had these flowcharts and fstep plans for if she's going to I'm going to open and
then I'm going to twist the lemon and Ne Ne The Kino escalation and dude all of this to try and come across as somebody who's interesting uh there was this study done where they asked a uh a study participant to uh take a flight in a plane and somebody sat next to them and that was one of the plants the plant was told that they needed to keep the person talking for the entirety of the flight but not disclose any information about themselves when they'd come off the plane they asked the person who had been
sat next to the plant how was the flight said oh brilliant actually really lovely said and what were the other passengers like we're just doing a little survey it was amazing had this great conversation this guy was so interesting oh okay can you tell us their name oh uh no okay can you tell us where they were from or what they did or anything they realize no but some people feel interesting some people make us feel interesting and maybe it's just a byproduct of the fact that so few people want to have a collaborative conversation
and that a lot of the time it's this game of tennis where you're waiting for the other person to hit the ball so that you get your chance to hit the ball so that they get their chance to hit the ball as opposed to you trying to tee them up for the best shot that you can we even tried to do this in uh George Max 30th in Miami so we had uh the pickle ball court in at the house that we were staying where everybody was at and a football and George used to do
football freestyle I'm aware it doesn't look like he used to do that but I promise you he was world class at doing it and um I thought well this would be really cool cuz we can do sort of a game of foot tennis type thing and everyone was getting we were all getting super competitive but it wasn't a very it wasn't a very beautiful game so I was like yeah why don't we change the rules for a little bit why don't we just try and make the most beautiful game we can so the whole point
of the game was to keep the put the ball into positions that yourself or the other team or the guy that was on your side could do something cool with so as opposed to trying to win you were trying to make it interesting and immediately George's response was yeah yeah yeah and then we can count how many we do and we can see if we can get more and I'm like no you [ __ ] doing the dopamine thing again uh that compulsion to sort of achieve or to win or to sort of Drive things
forward is really really good but it's not necessarily needed when you're sat around the dinner table with some friends so just realizing that first off realizing it's not necessarily always your job to be the interesting one it's other people's jobs to make you feel interesting by opening up questions to you that cause you to think more deeply um another one is that point around why to certain people do we have lots to say and to others we don't have anything at all is that your fault because you're the same person between these two different people
the difference is the people so that suggests that there's something going on Within that is causing you to feel more or less comfortable with opening up about yourself and on top of that it means that the people who make you feel really comfortable are exciting and interesting even though they don't actually need to be interesting so anyway I think reverse Charisma much easier way to be interesting and uh we could all do with cultivating a bit more of it uh Jack butcher another lesson from him he came on the show four years ago something like
that he says if more money wouldn't change how you spend your time you're already rich and a similar Insight from James clear to stop trading things that matter for ones that don't so if you already live a comfortable life then choosing to make more money but live a worse daily life is a bad trade and yet we talk ourselves into it all the time we take promotions that pay more but swallow our free time we already have a successful business but we break ourselves trying to make it even more success uccessful there's too much focus
on wealth and not enough focus on lifestyle and those two lessons if moroney wouldn't change how you spend your time you're already rich um brings richness being wealthy way closer to you now there's some people that have got know a high materialism set point maybe the way that their families showed love when they were young was through gifts maybe they've got a sort of keeping up with the Jones's mentality maybe they're in a very high net worth neighborhood or something um and if that's you then you know if you can't deprogram it you're going to
have to earn a lot of money because in order for you to feel worthy you're going to have to have material possessions that sort of match that level but if you're the sort of person who like me doesn't have particularly expensive tastes and really if my net worth doubled all I would do is maybe buy slightly nicer coffee machine I don't know like there's I don't there's nothing that's sort of in my mind where I think oh my God and i' really love that thing and that's been the case for probably a decade now and
it's not as if I've been Rich for a decade um but basically if you don't have a lot of materialism in you I think that's a competitive advantage and I think that you can look at people who need lots of uh expensive material possessions as kind of having a weird sort of curse that they need they're a very very hungry animal and they need to keep on feeding this beast in a way that you don't or basically their burn rate for happiness materially is way higher than yours and you can get away with it being
10% or 20% or whatever of this person because they need to have the a new car that's never more than two years old and they need to have the design the shoes and you got to have the bag and they got to have to this um and I think that realizing if making more money wouldn't change much about how you live your life you are already rich or if you can even see little glimmers of that uh it's a good starting point so anyway I love I love those two and trading things that matter for
ones that don't living a comfortable life losing time or sanity for uh additional even something that's super arbitary and even more silly ideas that James doesn't use um a promotion uh give getting a better job title which has no material use unless you're then going to cash that in for a better position at some point at some other company in future but I think if you offer people a 5% pay rise or a promotion in terms of their job title uh on average more people choose the promotion because status is one of these things that
were just driven for but you literally can't cash it in unless at some point in the future you manage to find a way to do it uh so yes be care F about the focus on wealth and not the focus on lifestyle all right next one uh deliberate deoptimization how much should you try to optimize your life was a question that I asked myself sort of how much should you be thinking about ways to improve how much should you care about things and for many people perhaps even most people the answer to all of those
questions is more the world largely belongs to the intense optimal and not the Le Fair guy chilling in a hammock who hit snooze three times this morning so telling people to optimize harder is a reliable way to improve the lives of most people because most people need to be tightened up rather than loosened off and being more obsessive will tend to deliver better results in worldly success most advice is charitably given to people who need to think more carefully be more deliberate and work harder the problem is when this message lands with the wrong audience
The Perennial Perma optimizes then it creates a world where overthinkers are convinced to think even more and these people need loosening off not tightening up and given the fact that you listen to this podcast or read my newsletter I'm going to guess that you fall into this category I'm not saying that you shouldn't be obsessive and pay attention to detail the problem arises when you can no longer delineate between the very small number of things that matter enough to obsess over and everything else assume that you have a small bucket of Pursuits which are important
you've probably learned that a very deliberate effortful optimized approach is a successful strategy this Obsession and addiction begins to bleed into all other areas of your life and turning off the tap of optimization is hard soon enough the entire map is flooded with the same desire to always push for perfect your brain tells you look at how effective your perfectionism has been in your professional life why don't we try and apply that to your your sleep routine and your training plan and your love life and the house cleanliness and your toenails and it doesn't go
well one solution I learned about actually from the CTO of RP strength um a guy called Andrew Z who works with Mike isrel is deliberate deoptimization so you purposefully let areas which could be dialed in further Fall by the wayside in order to give your brain capacity to focus on the ones that really matter focusing on your pounds and not everyone else's pennies sure you could have five credit cards with special cashback bonuses and capture all of the points for your air miles but given that you're already close to Capac on the things to give
a [ __ ] about list is it wise to add yet another thing onto that sure your intra workout nutrition could probably be dialed in more with pre-digested grass-fed way and dextrose but what if this takes your energy away from the key area of just hitting the gym five times a week in the same way you could spend all day watching the stock market instead of just investing in an de fund but how much damage will this new candle graph addiction do to your relationship uh Oliver burkeman inspired me with this thought recently which is
how much should you care about things question how much should you care about things answer I'm unsure exactly but I know that it's not the absolute maximum amount all the time for everything basically not everything is a life or death situation and even if you know this cognitively you still behave implicitly like it is so deliberately letting go of certain areas is a good way to give overthinkers like you and me uh more space to regain a little bit of Sanity basically the stress of trying to be perfect will kill you more quickly than your
imperfections and choosing the very small bucket of things that are unbelievably important to you and that you want to have your obsession focus on and when that habit that thought pattern that framing starts to appear in other areas of your life you just sort of notice it you go oh yeah that's that thing that I really love at work and really don't want in my relationship or in my sleep routine or in the way that I keep my house or whatever so I'm I'm just going to like thank you for that and I appreciate you
I see you there but I don't really need to worry so much and it's difficult because you're going to be hypertrophying this muscle in one very particular domain or a few particular domains and you're going to be trying atrophy the same muscle in other domains and it's really really tough this is a uh problem to be managed not a paradox to be solved perhaps that there is no point at which this is going to be stopped and just learning like being on one of those Balance Board things where there's a sphere in the middle of
it at no point are you actually at stasis you're always just making little adjust ments and I think maybe it's kind of like that this next lesson I think might be the best thing I've written in probably about a year so I listened to a podcast from Joe Hudson and he just blew me away with this Insight around productivity and it really concretized something that I've been thinking about for ages which I love and hopefully it'll be useful to you as well I realized there's a very painful transition that everybody eventually needs to make in
their career and their productiv journey to go from operate a guy to IDE a guy at the beginning of your career the only advantage that you have is your work rate because you've got no experience to draw on and any natural talent you have is capped by the fact that you've got no experience to unlock it so you just work hard to get ahead you answer all of the emails you take all of the would love to connect calls you send the invoices write the copy hire the contractors everything it's you but eventually that stage
of your journey expires and you need to let it go maybe you have saf to delegate to now maybe you've been given a promotion and need to be thinking at a more strategic high level previously your job is to work hard but not so much anymore and Joe Hudson says your job isn't to work hard your job is to have great ideas but here's the problem you've spent an entire career ACC climatizing yourself to getting stuff done you've built a monster inside of you which sucks in difficult tedious tasks and spits out completed efforts you've
created a link between being busy doing things you don't want to do and success the issue is it's really hard to work out what you truly want and determine whether or not you're moving toward it but it's really [ __ ] easy to see the number of emails that you sent or how many hours you spent on calls today being busy is more satisfying than being effective and it's very hard to work out if your productivity efforts are actually useful or if they're just a dopamine fix that allows you to check the dbx and feel
like you completed something so ask yourself is your job to press enter on emails or to actually move the mission forward and you can't confuse the first one for the second one another challenge is this level of busyness helps to make you feel important uh a full calendar is a hedge against existential loneliness you think to yourself there's no way that I can be an unwanted piece of [ __ ] look at how many calls I have today look at all the people who need my time and attention I have to be important I have
to be valuable please please please assuage my deep feelings of insufficiency you are hooked on the dopamine of I got stuff done today because even if this wasn't a great use of your day at least you don't feel useless and you didn't have any time to consider that you might not be fully actualizing your potential in any case because you're drowning in [ __ ] emails another challenge is that conspicuous busyness is much more societally rewarded than quiet Effectiveness we want other people to see how hard we're working even if the best thing for your
missions outcome was for you to go and lie on the beach today and think who's going to congratulate you for taking on that challenge like let's just think for a second the best thing that you could do for your professional outcomes your personal outcomes your netw worth your mental health your physical everything all of that would be going offline lying on a beach and getting a bit of a tan maybe maybe you grab an ice cream um there's a dog there for a little while you play with the dog somebody else's dog you play with
the dog uh and then you come back and you have an early night and from every objective metric that makes your life and the lives of the people around you better who's giving you an award for that dude well done today really really well done well if we assume that the reason that we do the work the reason that we do any work is to move us toward a goal that ultimately we want why would we assume that sending useless emails that don't move the project forward should be more applauded than going to the beach
which does and it's because we still have this Industrial Age Puritan work set mindset around what working hard looks like and again it's this conspicuous productivity or obvious busyness near burnout is worn like a badge of honor to show your falty to the mission obvious productivity is more praised than private efficacy and here's the thing almost everyone's life goal is where they get to a point where they can say I just don't want to have to do anything I don't want to do anymore but what happens when you get there because so much of your
selfworth is derived from overcoming hard things and pushing yourself through difficult tasks that you don't want to do so imagine that you do reach your goal of not having to do things you don't want to do anymore where are you going to find your satisfaction from now this is why it's so difficult to let go of grunt work and to let go of being permanently busy even when your precise goal was to get here to the point where you don't need to do grunt work and you don't need to be per permanently busy I guess
finally as well there's a question of why is it so hard to take pleasure in our successes and a big part of that is largely because you're constantly peering over the shoulder of the present moment to see what's coming next you're always just sort of looking past what is in front of you or what's happening right now so even during the act of attaining a goal you're already looking past it a little bit getting ready to move the goalposts that you just this second kick the ball into further away down the field we are all
chasing a sense of completion but we never actually allow ourselves to savor any tastes of completion that we along the way we assume that one day we're going to arrive and that day never comes because we never give ourselves a break and then we realize that the path we were speed running through was actually the one to our grave and how many people I mean what's that the five most common regrets deathbed regrets one of them I wish that hadn't worked so much I mean if you're going to Outsource it to people that are on
their deathbed they've got no reason to lie I wish that I kept in touch with my friends I wish I'd allowed myself to be happy I wish I'd lived uh my own life and not the one that others expected of me I wish I'd kept it I mean look this Insight around what is your productivity for what are you working this hard for what is it that you're trying to achieve are you here to crank widgets and to keep your slack at zero and to send emails or you here to move your life meaningfully toward
the thing that you want the problem is slack and calls and emails are much easier and more obvious for you to judge than did I get myself toward a life that I want that's really amorphous and tough but I buried myself in work or I only slept four hours last night we use the proxy thing that in the beginning of our journey when we were doing grunt work was supposed to be predictive of where we were going to end up we use that mindset for the rest of time and look if you're starting out on
a career Journey or you're at the bottom of a ladder of something new uh This Might Sting a bit because you're hearing about a transition that you as of yet don't have to make uh and aren't going to get to make for quite a while but you need to keep it in the back of your mind because if you don't like the grunt work in the beginning the only thing worse than that is doing it when you no longer need to do it when you've managed to get somewhere closer up the top of the ladder
and um refusing to let go of it is going to cap your progress and your happiness and it's going to trap you in thought patterns that you really don't want and it's a difficult transition the existential loneliness that you have to deal with where it's like but I was everybody needs me everybody wanted me I was so busy all of the time it's like yeah dude you you need to ask yourself sort of deeper questions now and you need to genuinely consider whether a 30-minute walk is the best thing that you can do for your
business or your relationship or your family or whatever it might be um and that's just I don't know why is that less sexy than you know sitting down and grinding out whatever needs to be the house cleaning the the emails the you know hardcore workout whatever might be it's like you need to learn to chill out a little bit more and uh that'll actually in some weird roundabout way move you closer to your goals too it's interesting uh all right next one so this is from uh Justin Lamer um who does a ton of really
interesting sex research uh gay men see bisexual men as secretly gay and lesbians see bisexual women is secretly straight across two studies involving a total of 288 gay and lesbian participants researchers examined attitudes towards stereotypes of bisexuals and some of their findings were that both gay men and lesbians hold more negative views of bisexual persons of the same sex than they did of the other sex it's kind of interesting I wonder whether that is some sort of a sense that this person could be competing in a market that the individual wouldn't be threatened by but
they've chosen to step into their market and maybe they'll take their partner away that might be an idea uh compared to lesbians gay men were more likely to see bisexual men as having an unstable sexual orientation and likewise compared to gay men lesbians were more likely to see bisexual women as having an unstable sexual orientation gain maybe this is just a a little bit of fear they're keeping their eye on them I don't know what direction you're going in um gay men tended to see bisexual men as being secretly gay whereas lesbians tended to see
bisexual women as secretly straight basically in other words both groups perceived bisexuals regardless of their sex as being more attracted to men than to women I mean that's [ __ ] fascinating gay men tended to see bisexual men as being secretly gay lesbians tended to see bisexual women is secretly strained I don't know man uh there is there is I mean I saw this in club promo we used to refer to it there was a few girls that swung both ways and if they were in a relationship with a girl we would mention that they
were on a liquid diet and then when they got back with a boyfriend we'd say oh she's back on solids now she's back on a solid diet after she was on a liquid diet for a while but she's back on solids um so there is something in there I don't know what it is maybe I think on average women's sexualities are a little bit more fluid um so there's just this sense that sort of women will experiment a little bit but they're still straight whereas the guy that's experimenting it's because of some you know internalized
fear of homophobia or not being accepted by Society at large so his way to get around it is by you know dabbling just putting a toe in or maybe more um yeah another Insight was that lesbian's greater negativity toward bisexual women relative to gay men was statistically explained by lesbians greater tendency to view bisexual women as being primarily attracted to men by contrast gay men's perception of by sexual men is secretly gay didn't account for why they held more negative attitudes towards B men than lesbians did don't really know what's going on there I guess
maybe some some differences in intrasexual competition somehow um yeah basically it really shows that there is a a bisexual Prejudice uh that exists in the gay community and there's some interesting gender dynamics that are at play um so for all that Pride focuses on the L and the G it's really the B you know like the B is the one which is the most persecuted even internally inside of the LGBT uh B is the I mean what's the T [ __ ] doing in there right the T has nothing in common with the L the
G and the B other than they get to enjoy Pride together um uh but yeah poor bees um another Insight kind of associated with this um there's something called the birth order effect which is kind of getting replication crisis a bit at the moment it's kind of interesting birth order effect suggested that for every older brother that a woman for every male that a woman gives birth to it increases the chance of subsequent males being gay so men with more older brothers were more likely to be gay basically when birthed from the same mother interestingly
some evidence showed that miscarriages also counted toward this and it was there was some suggestions about sort of immune system some kind of immune system mediation going on here to how the the womb interacted with the fetus and seeing it as a a a like alien um alien uh just a nonnative um part of the body uh and then the obviously you'd think well that why would that be the case for men but not for women and this guy yakob F and some colleagues looked at the Fraternal birth order effect and they had a Croatian
Slovakian data and they found that the Fraternal birth order effect exists for lesbians too women with more older brothers were also more likely to be lesbian so I don't know what it is I guess it depends if you want a gay son or a gay daughter what you you better hope for is a couple of boys first and then you're off to the races you know you've got like lesbian younger sisters and gay younger brothers running around all over the place maybe that's the way it works but then I think it got replication crisis like
the whole thing so now I don't know um and maybe I've just fed you I've not fed you false information I've just fed you information that might need updating so I'll come back to that suppose uh next lesson so I told this story a couple of times about a retreat I went to in California but then I saw a Kurt vonet quote that sort of perfectly summarized it zipped it down uh and it's easy to remember so Kurt says we are what we pretend to be so we must be careful about what we pretend to
be we are what we pretend to be so we must be careful about what we pretend to be so I'd gone to this retreat in California and I met a business owner who had a big YouTube channel that I used to watch a lot along time ago and then I asked him why he'd stopped making videos and he said I started feeling like I had to live up to in private the things which I was saying in public and I think about this quite a lot um I've come to sort of realize there's two sides
to fake it until you make it and one is positing an ideal or a better version of yourself which You're motivated to live up to due to the need for social consistency but that stake in the ground acts as much like a tether as it does a Finish Line If you commit yourself to some worldview or life philosophy what happens if you stop agreeing with it sure you might want everyone you might want to change but everybody around you has grown accustomed to the previous version of you and whether it's Lifestyle Changes like your dietry
approach or your training methodology or worldview changes like a religious belief or political affiliation or personality changes like commitments to growth or going sober or changing friend groups social consistency bias is a double-edged sword a while ago some of the leading influences of the ex paleo diet movement then the carnivore movement started to add fruit into their food and the aptly called meat and fruit diet caused uproar not because of evidence that the diet is based on but because its new proponents had ardently stated a different belief in the past and the change caused the
people around them to feel uncomfortable this is the danger the social incentives align for you to not change in public even if you grow out of your beliefs in private stupid people see someone changing their mind as an indication of unsophistication because they don't understand that updating your worldview when you grow is a sign of intelligence not fickleness and that an unwavering commitment to a narrow worldview is not cleverness but a sub to shoot for it which unfortunately means that after changing your mind in public it often results in you being attacked by a large
number of mostly stupid people and the more public you are about it the harder it is to reverse perfect example of this Alex okon Goes vegan is convinced about the ethics the philosophical underpinnings of veganism does not want to contribute to animal suffering but as a byproduct of that his health suffers and he is struggling to keep his health to where it needs to be whilst eating a balanced plant-based diet it's not something he says that he doesn't think you can do but something that given his level of conscientiousness and preparedness it was something he
was struggling to do so his demeanor was incompatible with the challenges that his new diet informed by his new philosophy had given to him so he went back to eating meat he had to announce in public something which he had changed in private and he got [ __ ] castigated on the internet for it for ages I mean he's now out the other side I don't think anyone really brings it up anymore but that was uncomfortable to watch especially when you think this guy's doing it for his health and he said it he told you
he you know made this change and and he told you about it he didn't lie he didn't continue to get those sweet vegan dollars if they ever existed uh he never did that he told you as soon as you changed and people still had a problem with it so be careful of the things that you say in private are not being able to be compatible with the expectations people have of you in public and um yeah that Stak in the ground versus Finish Line am I positing an ideal or am I attaching my self worth
to an expectation that I'm then going to have to rip off me I'm going to have to sort of Peel this [ __ ] skin off me that everybody else expects it's difficult personal growth is hard enough as it is without all of the expect it's why you know to be honest what are we 45 minutes in I can talk about this now it's the reason why I don't talk about like deeply talk about my relationships on the show uh you know even though I talk about relationships and dating uh and a lot of the
Dynamics it's evidently something I'm interested in I'm obviously you know on the path toward trying to build a family and do all the rest of the stuff but I think it's [ __ ] so hard to have a relationship full stop having a relationship with even a couple of thousand people observing it you remember what it was like when you used to get the um Chris Williamson is in a relationship notifications on Facebook or whatever and you would see it from your friends and people would be able to like it and comment on it and
so and then it would tag the other person but then it would also show Chris Williamson is single [ __ ] like you've only got what I think thousand friends or something on Facebook that was a huge deal I mean I don't know maybe I'm speaking depends how young you are you might not have ever seen that on Facebook that was [ __ ] revolutionary by the way bring back Facebook uh dating [ __ ] but that was hard just doing that was hard so how hard is it when you're posting photos of you both
and you know that's the reason why I've kept that area of my private life private because again you've got this like expectation the stake in the ground additional scrutiny um you know do you stay in relationships for longer than you should because you're scared about what people are going to think do you leave relationships more quickly than you should because you're scared about what what people are going to think like you just you're never existing for yourself you're always existing for this version of of what people who don't necessarily have your best interests at heart
think about how you should behave and uh yeah digital hijab as Mary Harrington calls it uh I've got my I've got my digital hijab on uh next one this a Mark Manson Insight which I [ __ ] adore so he says neediness occurs when you place a higher priority on what others think of you than what you think of yourself anytime that you alter your words or behavior to fit someone else's needs rather than your own that's needy anytime you lie about your interests or your hobbies or your background that's needy anytime that you pursue
a goal to impress others rather than fulfill yourself that's needy whereas most people focus on what behavior is attractive or unattractive what determines neediness and therefore attractiveness is the why behind your behavior you can say the coolest thing or do what everyone else does but if you do it for the wrong reason it will come off as needy and desperate and turn people off turning people off is definitely not optimal I like turning people on as much as the next guy but I think there's an even bigger price to be paid here which is your
own selfworth so imagine for a second a world in which you are unanimously adored by millions but you hate yourself are you happy is it worth it and now imagine a world where you're disliked by everybody but you love yourself I propose that selflove you would be happier because ultimately in some tost roundabout way the reason we want validation from others is to give us a good enough reason to validate ourselves and if you compromise yourself in order to gain favor with other people you'll know even if you think you're not keeping score your subconscious
is and given that you're the sort of person who listens to this show you probably keep score a lot more accurately than is typical how can you EXP expect to have faith in yourself if you can't even keep your own word so the problem is we sacrifice the thing that we want which is selfworth for the thing which is supposed to get it which is validation sacrifice selfworth to get validation in the hopes that if we have sufficient validation we will finally be able to have some selfworth uh sacrificing the thing that you want for
the thing that's supposed to get it and um yeah this neediness Insight that you know it's kind of it's not too dissimilar to that point from before from Sam ens where you think [ __ ] we have these expectations public expectations familial expectations people don't like change there's also another reason that people don't like change I think is because we want to be able to predict project out where somebody is going to be in future and the more easy they are to predict as in the more reliably they fall into our model of them the
less we need to sort of worry about what's going to happen you know don't worry about Chris he's he's he's he's a he's a good guy he'll he'll he'll he'll be on board with the next whatever Trump policy or he'll be on board with the next Kamala policy or he'll be on board with the next whatever because he was with the last ones but if you start to deviate a little bit whether it's political ideology philosophy life Direction career uh you know temperament in its extreme this is sort of bipolar right it's oh my God
I'm so scared of whether or not this person's going to be high or low or whatever it might be but in smaller ways the same discomfort comes through us because we like I don't know if they're still going to sort of be here in a year's time what if they outgrow me what if they outgrow a friendship what if they start to disagree with something that's really sacred to me uh so in that way people who don't necessarily go along with the crowd are seen as a threat in many ways uh so yeah I think
just something to consider all right some more dating stuff uh this is Insight from Chris Bumstead awesome episode with him last year and I was asking him about how to choose a good partner how to know when you've sort of found the one and Chris said find someone who you just feel safe being a burden to you're not going to intentionally be a burden but sometimes you suck you know sometimes you're a burden and even if you don't feel safe being like that around your partner if you have to withhold things from them and put
on that show you're never going to feel safe around them and you're not going to want to be there for them as much when they're being a burden as well you just become these two people dividing and conquering all of your problems rather than taking on the world together I think I always felt like I wanted to be great at everything I did and great at what I pursued and I never expected to be as good as I was so it would just be such an interesting relief to be able to give myself to think
you are going to be great you are going to have all these things that you want but you're also going to to realize that they're not as important as you think they are you're going to come to the realization where your relationships and your values and everything you enjoy and experience aren't going to come down to spectacular moments on stage they're going to be much simpler than that they're just going to be these moments where you're being yourself and the people who love you for that are going to be everything it's awesome you know this
guy who has conquered the sport has sort of defined an enti generation of bodybuilders and then bowed out at 30 uh is able to say completed it but even in the process of completing it six times in a row the big wins weren't the big wins the big wins were the little ons and they were the shares and the opportunity for me to celebrate what I'd done with people who cared about me who knew me and it's great and magnificent and impressive and all the rest of it but it wasn't What mattered um you know
a successful career in a terrible marriage can make your life miserable an average career and an amazing marriage can make your life delightful so you need to Choose Wisely I saw this thing on Reddit actually five questions to ask yourself if you're unsure about your relationship if someone told you you're a lot like your partner would this be a compliment to you are you truly fulfilled or just less lonely are you able to unapologetically be yourself or do you feel the need to show up differently to please your partner are you in love with who
your partner is right now as a whole or are you only in love with their good side the potential or the idea of them and would you want your future or imagined child to date someone like your partner those are absolute Hammer blows I think almost everything in here if someone told you look like your partner would you would this be a compliment to you um are you in love or with just the idea or would you want your future child imagine child to date someone like your partner those three are sort of taking you
out of the situation and imagining that you're somebody else you're something else um it's for a different person um so that's creating a little bit of psychological distance are you truly fulfilled or just less lonely um is you know fantastic Insight around the reason that we suck so much in relationships is that we're terrified of being alone and that means that we stay in relationships are we accept relationships that we shouldn't do because familiar loneliness or familiar uh partnership is more enjoyable than unfamiliar loneliness and that's not good uh are you able to unapologetically be
yourself or do you feel the need to show up differently to please your partner I think that a lot of that is around uh the level of openness the level of comfort um that you have how much do you need to self-edit know the the question around uh the person that's your best friend is the one that you have the least filter with and that you can sit in silence with without having to fill it so it's the person that you can talk the most with in an unincumbered way and the person you can shut
up the most with in an unincumbered way um and if that's not your partner then you're struggling because your relationship should feel like home it should feel like a house with a sturdy roof and strong foundations and [ __ ] gets thrown at it all the time and rain comes down and there's weather and there's heat and there's cold but inside of that house is the one safe Refuge that you have you can lose your job status your financial position can fall away your health can break down your friends can leave you but you have
this one safe place and it's in another person it's in them and if you can't be yourself with that person the entire house does not exist it's fake so you need to make sure that you can be yourself with your partner or else you have no safe Refuge from the world which is [ __ ] terrifying uh on The Dating Line hosi dropped a a [ __ ] Slammer the other day which I want to talk to him about the next time I speak to him if you find a girl who believes in your dreams
more than you do who makes you want to be a better man who's willing to work alongside you to get there and is grateful for whatever you have just marry her that's how you make marriage an easy yes how you make marriage an easy yes is by having a girl who has those if you find a girl who believes in your dreams more than you do who makes you want to be a better man who's willing to work alongside you to get there and is grateful for what whatever you have just marry her the rest
of the stuff will sort itself out man I really do get that sense maybe I'm getting soft in my old age I don't know um I guess there was one final element I got asked a bunch of questions about the black pill and stuff and sort of incels the last time on a Q&A some point recently and um it's kind of an unfalsifiable um philosophy in a lot of ways because there's many kernels of Truth in it you you know um realizations about what women want uh physically in a partner and the fact that some
men just no matter how many push-ups they do they're not going to get there um it's tough you know it's a a hard biological limit um but there's a there is a very specific cohort of men frustrating men guys who have got nothing going for them no Drive in their life they're uncomfortable in their own skin they're endlessly miserable they keep complaining about women having too high standards it's like bro your standards for yourself are through the [ __ ] floor your friends don't want to hang out with you you don't want to hang out
with you why do you think a woman would want to hang out with you and how is this their fault that they've got too high standards you suck you suck your friends don't want to hang with you you don't want to hang with you why lay at the feet of women the fact that they have got too high standards I am all for it will [ __ ] die on the hill of fighting for more empathy for men right and I have been thrown under the bus many times for doing so I again be able
to walk this tight rope where I'm so Cy cocked that the manosphere considers me to be blue pilled but I'm also such a misogynist that Guardian readers think that I'm Andrew Tate from wish and I don't care anymore like I don't care about being misjudged by people who don't understand what I'm trying to achieve and there's a group of people out there maybe the large majority who are reasonable and who understand that it's not Zero Sum when it comes to empathy who realize that you can raise up men without dragging down women that you can
support women without forgetting about the challenges of men that you can tell men that they need to pick themselves up by their bootstraps and actually do some work without forgetting that those men have got challenges that need structural support from society at large and we need initiatives and we need investment and that some women do have too high standards some women do have skewed perspectives of what they're worth but you're not going to get into a relationship with them in any case what's your goal with screaming at these these harpies on the internet these like
[ __ ] women who go on to these dating shows and like I'm going to get a guy who's got like six six feet six and he's got like six figures and he's got a six inch like what are you really really going to go and change their you going to U-turn them and turn that chick into wifey no you're not you're getting frustrated because you think that they are a representation of women at large but that woman by Design sucks so you're not going to hang out with her so just don't pay attention to
her and move toward the chicks that are perfectly normal that there are so many [ __ ] awesome women out there who want to get into a relationship who just want a man who's got those traits that we talked about before yeah I um that special category of men who don't have anything going for them no Drive uncomfortable in their own skin endlessly miserable complaining all the time and laid at the feet of women dude point the [ __ ] finger in the mirror like I will give you as much Social confidence training diet hairstyle
advice until the cows come home and I will continue to do it but if you're not doing any work and you're saying that it's the fault of women that you're not getting dates [ __ ] that's on you guy anyway what a [ __ ] wonderful positive tone for me to finish this 900th episode on but I love it I mean some of these lessons today I really I really adore and I hope that you do too and I appreciate you all and I'm actually going to be in Mexico tomorrow so wish look I'm getting
some treatments and stuff for the health [ __ ] that I'm fighting with at the moment mold and evv and lime and all of that [ __ ] so uh [ __ ] pray for Chris if you would uh pray for this mustache as well because it's probably not going to be here the next time that you see me but I appreciate you all roll on episode 10,000 peace
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