Biologist confronts Frank on gender theory

have you ever heard of gynecomastia I had it and if okay so did you have that fixed yes I did and did that make you feel affirmed in your gender and comfortable in your body no when I was in the Navy nobody knows this by the way Jesus now I'm revealing my I need a HIPAA for him to sign here or something [Music] what do you have to say for people who don't fit in your definition of man or woman I'm a biologist I understand the biology are you saying that a woman is only a person who has two X chromosomes and a man who is someone who only has an X and A Y chromosome I think that's the scientific definition yeah it's actually not because there can be people with xxy there can be Y chromosome inactivation the way that this biology works is that you have genes those genes make proteins those proteins develop the traits that you define as men and women they develop the features that you define as male they develop the genitalia but you can be a woman with female genitalia nbxy you can be a man but you could you can have X X chromosomes yeah I understand what you're talking about Grace you're talking about a very rare condition known as intersexed right in 100 people experience chromosomal differences in sex okay but not one in one hundred have different genitalia or ambiguous genitalia and what do you say to those people well what you say is that's a situation that is not the Norm we're not saying that they're not people obviously as I understand it maybe you know more about it than me or when you do have a truly intersexed person at that point either the parents or when they're old enough they can decide which way they're going to orient themselves and they can get the appropriate surgery but that's not what we're experiencing in our culture it's okay for people to decide their gender in that situation but that's not what we're talking about in our culture what we're talking about in our culture are people with perfectly normal functioning sexual organs trying to have them removed and trying to transition to another gender which is impossible scientifically have you ever doubted that you're a man you've doubted that you oh have I ever doubted I'm a man no I have never doubted and what do you say to a transgender person who has never doubted their gender you're saying that we all change and that obviously transgenderism is a product of some kind of phase but you've never doubted that you're a man no I'm sure where's your development of this change Grace I'm not denying there are people truly with gender dysphoria I've already said that what I'm saying is is the way out of that problem is not surgery according to the data okay Psychiatry is the way out of that I also don't agree with your statement that after surgery you implied that transgender people are more likely to commit suicide after surgery but the statistics say that transgender people are more likely to commit suicide because of people like because of arguments that you make that they're invalid no I'm not saying they're invalid I'm just saying that you implied that it's the surgery that's causing suicide no it's not what I'm saying is the surgery doesn't fix anything that's the point the same it's practically the same rate whether they have the surgery or not if you woke up in group rests today would you would like them to be removed say that again have you ever heard of gynecomastia I had it and if okay so did you have that fixed yes I did and did that make you feel affirmed in your gender and comfortable nobody no when I was in the Navy nobody knows this by the way now I'm revealing my I need a HIPAA form to sign here or something you don't have to talk about it no what I'm saying is yes I've had that myself and and and had it surgically removed when I was in the Navy yeah and do you feel more comfortable in your body and more affirmed in your gender because of that for me it was the fact well I can't even get into it now because it had nothing to do with my gender okay so it it had to do with a it had to do with the fact that it looked really odd let me just put it that way okay but Grace my point is is if we truly care about people are we going to try and force them down a road particularly as children into a solution to a problem which is proven not to be a solution you just said that having that surgery made you feel better about yourself that has nothing to do with transgender surgery I wasn't I wasn't changing my sex I was having breast tissue removed okay I was always a man okay so and say that I have X Y chromosome but I'm born with female genitalia and female body types but I believe I'm a man should I not be allowed to have that breast tissue removed as an adult you can do whatever you want yes that's fine my problem is with the children that's that's where that's where I'm having a real problem is there a magic button at 18 that instantly makes you feel like you know who you are and absolutely what your gender is no well I think for women it's probably like 15 for men it's 37. so to be honest with you okay because men don't develop as quickly as women all right but no no we've just chosen 18 kind of as the the adulthood Crossing Point although for some issues it's 21 like drinking okay so no maybe it's later than 18. okay my big problem and I would say this is somebody who's 37.

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