#BlackLivesMatter: Fatima Ibrahim of Green New Deal UK

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In solidarity with #BlackLivesMatter, we are using our platform to learn from, listen to and amplify black voices. The inspiring Fatima Ibrahim, co-executive director of Green New Deal UK, shows us how racism, misogyny and inequality hinder fighting the climate crisis, in conversation with the Mothers of Invention podcast and Stella. The environmental movement has long been dominated by white and middle-class perspectives. We recognise that we have not been perfect but hope, by being humble and taking this small action, we can begin to be part of the solution. We will be better, including offering our platform to BAME voices regularly moving forward, supporting anti-racist organisations like the NAACP and more to come. This is only the beginning.

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So the work we do on Mothers of Invention is grounded in the reality that as some of the most marginalized people in every society black brown and indigenous women and girls are existing at the frontlines of the climate crisis so then the climate crisis isn't something that will happen in the future it's already sewn into their generational past too and so as longtime fighters and survivors of climate change It's those same women and girls who are already equipped to the most holistic solutions and that's why we humbly lean in and listen closely and quietly to what they have to say and if we're really listening and keep listening that moment will mark a journey that starts to Steve colonise our point of view and that good work will put everybody on a positive climate economic and racial justice for all so Fatima Ibrahim is not only a climate Activists and social justice campaigner at only 26 years old she is the co-executive director of the green you deal UK and in 2019 we saw the green New Deal gain massive traction in the US thanks to an extraordinary youth climate group called the sunrise movement and of course US Representative Alexandria or Castillo Cortez but back in the UK Fatima has been campaigning and building solidarity with international movements since she was a teenager and that Includes years organizing with the UK needs Climate Coalition and acting as a lead organizer of the people's climate March and so with all that Fitness in mind Mary Mae and Stella please welcome to the most high quality zoom hang of your lockdown New Deal UK back to Ibrahim yeah the great New Deal as you say um been gaining recent profile in the US but around the world the European Commission is currently in the process Of passing their own version of a green deal and it really finds its roots in the New Deal which was in the 1930s President Franklin D Roosevelt found himself a crossroads where the u.s. was going through an economic depression the Great Depression and then also an ecological crisis of the Dust Bowl and had to figure out how to solve these two issues and what he did is to carry out a series of reforms that put democracy back in the driving seat of The economy and brought banks under control invested in the environment created millions of new jobs that put people back to work that even there was huge unemployment put people back into work in rehabilitating the environment and was able to deal with the massive economic crash that had left lots of people unemployed while also fixing the environmental crisis you know fast forward to 2008 economists and campaigners and MPs like Caroline Lucas Came up with the term agree New Deal because the issues that we were dealing with then as we are now is inequality is at its highest levels and we have a currency that's staring us in the face at the time it didn't get pick up and we were hit with the economic crash and austerity ten years on it picked up as he said in the introduction by some migrant campaigners in the US and that we've been inspired by in the UK and feel like this is a great opportunity For us to organize around an idea and a concept but also a set of policies that allows to reshape how the economy works and changing it so that a centrist people and planet first above all instead of profits because what we have now and I it was listening to you guys a bit earlier and Stella was talking about her business we're in a position right now where the government is betting against us it's hard to make the changes that we want to make both as in as in an Economy as a whole and for business leaders to be making those changes and what the New Deal is asking and demanding is that democracy is put back in the driving seat and that collectively were able to reshape our economy so it's putting us first and making sure that we're not you know going straight into another crisis after this which is the climate crisis yeah I mean with the green them the green new deal like when I read about the New Deal Back in the day yes it was you know creating huge employment in everything but it was also kind of just like saving capitalism so what's the amazing thing about the green New Deal a this and it's like yeah it's been employment and it's about but it's really about something much bigger than you know the economy and jobs and that it's about like oh like you said we have you know eight to ten years and if we don't do something now then what's gonna happen I mean do You do you feel like in the UK it's like get you're getting through to with your European like brethren or is this different there because of the government so one thing I think to underscore about what wasn't right about what happened in the 1930s is that as much as it was amazing what FDR was able to do it was racist and excluded women and it excluded people of color it was even an economy that was you know made for white men and that's definitely not Part of what you want to pick up in analysis and for me it's been tried formative I've been involved in for as long as I can remember I think this is the first time that I feel like there's a solution to match the concerns that I have right right and I think before getting lost and hopelessness cuz I know what's wrong but there wasn't it out there that I could conceive or knew existed that matched that concern does that because I think it answers the Fundamental question like what brought us here and that inequality it's you know an unequal access to power its equal access to resources it's like unequal access in our societies as a whole that had been led not just to the climate crisis we can see in coronavirus now how we're all unequally impacted and we can see in in what has happened in the US with George Floyd and numbers of other people who've lost Their lives because of injustice but because of inequality - can I ask you a quick question fatima what stage it is something just fundamentally wrong and you hadn't that has to override the economics you know when did the economics just actually not matter and the actual just the wrong and the injustice of it shines and just rises above that some of us can recognize what is wrong I think our ability to change what is Wrong is unequal right yeah in the choices that were able to make in the even in our in our understanding I think this I always often talk about how our education system doesn't equipped us to realize and recognize the things that are wrong or equip us with the ability to change them so yes there's things that are wrong I think economics is still an important part of it because economics controls our ability to change it and that controls our autonomy and Lots of people just don't have the autonomy I think to be making those changes and I think that's what we should be going after because I believe if we're fundamentally equal and we all have power over our lives over our community's lives that we will collectively make better decisions and we will collectively live in better harmony with each other and our environment and right now what's happening is that we don't have like People just don't have equal power I mean I'll admit what I've been late to I think is by the diversity presence and I very much came into campaigning around the climate for my human perspective right I cared about human rights I was concerned about human rights I saw that time it was the biggest breath of human rights and I've been slow on the sort of picking up all the tipping points that we have American points in biodiversity and I have friends of mine who are Working on a new deal for nature what isn't you deal for they look like how do we a big part of that like I've been saying again it's this power thing of what you need community better ownership of managing their lands understanding what impact having on the natural world positive transition because there are a lot of things that are touted as climate solutions that still require a huge amount of extractivism but it's still massive threat to our oceans and The natural world I'm sorry I hadn't heard of that like the New Deal's for nature that sounds really fascinating it also sounds a little bit like that it's like fox is organizing it or there's a bunch of civil society organizations I mean that's very much linked and people are linking to the greenido stuff too you know that the green you don't open just become a savior for capitalism where we're defective in terms of the Just transition I think this is important and this is where the climate movement has been going wrong I think we're doing a lot better now and the analysis we need to be in solidarity with workers everywhere and that these changes shouldn't be leaving workers and ordinary people behind but that when we're advocating for the transition out away from fossil fuels for to tell the government not to necessarily bail out airline companies that what we're not Doing is making sure that the you know workers are the ones that face the brunt of it because the corporate executives these big airlines and these fossil fuel companies will be ok they will live it's funny I totally agree I had a conversation recently with I won't mention who but a fellow fashion designer they announced that they've given up fur and I was like that is I congratulate her that's so great so amazing I'm really proud of you and the Answer was well I'm just worried for the people you know the businesses and I'm a little bit concerned about what happens to the businesses these people that do this for a living and I was like at some stage the people at the top of the business they're gonna be fine they're gonna get it on the jobs they're gonna be a CEO somewhere else they're gonna be fine I said what about the quality of life to the people that are skinning exotic animals for living any Electrocuting foxes and cages but at what stage to the right people that work in these farms and these are industries that are dark like they're not exposed the animal agriculture industry it's wonderful that you're talking about that I think again Colvard especially in the u.s. is really highlighting you know how much of this do you guys have hope and faith in the future generations because I know that most of the biggest businesses we're Talking about like how do we target generation XYZ did it and I hope the way you do it is because they are the ones driving this change they are the ones that won't stand for it they're the ones that's saying I'm not gonna eat that I'm not gonna wear that I'm not gonna buy into that like do you have some hope I think you know covin 19 has taught us a number of lessons and one of them and maybe the biggest one is the importance of collective human Behavior save us from the virus we've no vaccine buying what the restrictions are locked on etcetera so collective consumer behavior in the future will be really key the main thing is that we have time to reflect and I also think that we have more compassion now that you see the neighborliness in different parts of the world we see it here in aerelon but you see it all over the place in the United States at the moment fractured and boiling as it is and Rightly because of the race issues I fully understand it there's also a lot of neighborliness and you know want to address these issues and compassion because kovat is not a great leveler we're not suffering equally it exacerbates the inequalities but we are all set back in a kind of you know difference that involves being forced to change and that opens up a space for compassion and I think this is going to be really important moving forward Fatima it's been wonderful to hear you and to see a young woman take such leadership you've talked about the green you deal we want to learn more about the New Deal generally and where do we find that more about your work and how we can help ya so we're doing really great work UK you can find us on green needle UK org we've also actually linked to what Mary said I've spent the last couple of months building a build back better UK campaign Driven from the DFS if you're interested in how we come back and have an economic recovery that steer that's away from climate change check out free media UK and get involved we are actually launching season three of mothers invention next month you can catch us on at the podcast Spotify or any of the usual platforms but right now follow mother's invent on Facebook Twitter or Instagram to learn more from the amazing feminist climate justice warriors all Over the world there's two mothers of invention you guys kiss

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