Joe Rogan Experience #1791 - Sadhguru

[Music] pleasure to meet you how close this should be right there that's good yeah like like a fist from your face that's what i usually tell people well i'm enjoying your book which one are you i'm in the middle of uh inner engineering oh okay why is that funny is that a funny one no that was the i mean after that three books have come so i was thinking you must have gotten a more recent one well i found some of your stuff online and i started uh watching some of your videos online and they're

very interesting and very uh educational and then i said all right let me find out what this guy's all about and so i got into that book that's good how did you find out about me because your people reached out to beyond here well uh right now we are on this soil mission i brought you a little bit of gift this is an indian mint this uh leaf an empty stomach if you just chew two leaves they're not very pleasant to eat and then drink some maybe tepid water okay it is uh a great blood

purifier blood purification yes oh how does it purify your blood how does that work um it has the necessary juices in it to do that the necessary juices safe soil i always wondered about these things about pots that plants come in do you think plants like that oh definitely not they would like to grow wild this is just a baby it's in a nursery you have to take it home and put it in your backyard okay that that's not a much bigger part because once i started learning about mycology this is this is not where

it would like to grow this is just a baby just a baby even a big pot they don't really like that right they would like to be in there this ground is best no question because there is a ecosystem yeah which has to connect with it yeah there's nothing like the ground but because in texas or in austin it could get too cold for her oh so she may not survive in your garden then you have to bring her in i don't want her to die so uh winter time maybe you will have to bring

it in so so maybe i can pot it outside during the spring and then uh put it inside winter you have to bring her in okay all right we'll work it out we'll figure she's indian you know she's india yeah i know i'm in real indian not a native american right they have a lot of uh indian animals in texas believe it or not really yeah access deer it's very common um animal out here really okay yeah they imported them here i don't know when but they're all over the place i saw one like six

months ago on the side of the road yeah so some things from india survived but a lot of them died off last year we had a very big freeze that lasted for a couple of weeks and a lot of a lot of exotic animals from other countries unless they're from northern part of india where it's in the himalayan region they may survive right but south indian animals like me won't make it [Laughter] so you're on this uh grand tour right now you're saying you just got back from you were in new york right yes i

was in i just came from india uh two days ago then i was in new york tennessee new york and here and today this night i'm living for caribbean because we are making signing some memorable memorandum of understanding with the caricom nations for the soil safe soil movement so they're all coming on board we have made a policy document specific for each country depending on their latitude soil types economic conditions and agricultural traditions of an individual nation based on this 192 nations we've made soil policies so this is something that you're very concerned about and

rightly so that there's a problem with the topsoil in america in particular that we've been aware of for a long time there's only like what is what's the number like 45 years worth of topsoil left if we go about practices the same way generally most uh un agencies are talking about uh something like uh 60 to 80 harvests which could be somewhere between 45 to 60 years of uh top soil but it's not like it's suddenly going to get over one day it's not like right it's not like a bank account it'll start sliding which

is already sliding so sliding means on one level there is loss of nutrients in the food and another level the yields are coming down we are going on increasing the inputs the input cost is going up they tell me 50 of the american farmers have not seen a dollar in the last 12 years and the highest suicide rate among all professions is among the farming community in the united states really yes it is so in india also i know it's in india and i thought they attributed that a lot to debt there was some issues

but why debt okay why the debt is piling up so you take the banks give debt only what is suitable for that crop all right it's not like they're going to give you a billion dollars to do some farming they're going to calculate and give you why is he not able to pay it back he's not able to pay it back one main reason is the input cost is going up year on year because the soil fertility is going down and the input cost is going up to a point where it's no more practical to

do it there was also some sort of an issue with monsanto correct those things are there but uh you don't think that's a big deal it would be if it came big time but uh monsanto is not so big time in india yet it's not oh no the policies have kind of blocked it and made it regulated so we are not we have not taken to gmo crops in a big way only a few few items we have taken even that people are protesting and generally farmers are aware and most people large number of farmers

have rejected it so that's a different aspect see the problem is always we are always saying whom to hit all right so this is a moment which is not against anybody because in this one thing we can all come together as one we may be of different nations we may be of different uh racial uh backgrounds religious backgrounds caste creed gender whatever and political ideologies whatever but we all come from soil live off the soil and when we die we go back to the soil the only question we have in our life is will we

get this that soil is the basis of our existence here will we get this now or will we get it when we're buried that's the only choice we have so having said that see people are talking about organic farming these are all urban people talking about it they've never farmed in their life they don't know what it means to do organic farming right now if the world shifts to organic farming hundred percent let's say tomorrow morning our food production in the world will come down to 20 to 25 of what it is right now so

that is death for uh most of the population so when they're talking about organic farming they're talking about farmer with no pesticides no herbicides no pesticides no fertilizer all this for this fertilizer fertilizer is non-organic yes it is chemical fertilizer right okay but what about organic fertilizer that is a manure right okay that is organic content is different so that's so people who are talking about this it's an ideal life okay right but will farmer who is doing it for his commercial requirement will he be able to conduct his agriculture in an idealistic way no

believe me i've engaged with farmers it's not like that it's like you're eating good food but if you have yourself checked up your doctor may say well your calcium is little deficient your iron is deficient so take these two pills so you took these two pills and tomorrow you felt great then you decided you don't have to really eat food you can just eat a lot of these pills and you will be fine that is how we have done agriculture we had rich soil in that whatever is deficient we put a little bit of nitrogen

or phosphate or something suddenly the crops burst out yeah then we forgot that we have to put organic content we just started putting these salts forever and in 25 to 30 years time the soil becomes fallow yeah there's a book i read years ago called dead doctors don't lie by a man named dr joel wallock and it talked about mineral deficiencies from topsoils it was a big issue and one of the things that he brought up is that people who grow agriculture and have animals have known forever that they have to supplement the animals diets

with minerals and that this is primarily because the food that they're getting is not minerally sufficient yes and that's the same thing with our own food is it even though you can grow a lot of these vegetables you're not getting the same nutrients that you would if you had rich topsoil not at all see the amount of nourishment or micronutrients that you got from a given vegetable let's say in early 20th century let's say uh 1920 and today what you're getting from the same thing is approximately 10 percent of the 10 percent yes 90 percent

drop has happened wow so it's especially food these studies are available in united states everywhere in the world they're not enough studies but it could be a similar number if not the same amount it could be something like that anywhere between 10 to 25 let's say for example if you ate an orange in uh 1920 today to get the same stuff you will have to eat eight oranges wow so it's simply not practical so people think this malnourishment these problems and this uh starvation these things will happen only to africa or south america or somewhere

no uh world food program predicts that by 2035 there could be famines around illinois region illinois yes really because the food that they're eating is deficient no the thing is the soil has been so used up you heard of uh 1930s uh the dust bowl yes yesterday i was in new york and i was talking to somebody there so they're saying that some whatever volume i don't know the volume but some enormous amount of dust came and settled in new york city when the dust bowls just came up like you know it just blinded the

whole kind of half the country so people are calculating how many whatever million tons or hundreds and thousands of tons of dust or soil landed up in new york city see it stopped in new york city because of the tall buildings and stuff but how many millions of tons of soil american soil went and landed in atlantic ocean that you can never calculate right right when farmers are growing these monocrop uh agriculture like if they're they're growing corn or soy or things like that it is that part of the problems it's not enough regenerative agriculture

not enough manure animals grazing in the same lands monoculture is a basic problem okay and uh we've gotten into this kind of thing because we're looking at soil like some industrial machine that we put in so much and we have to get so much but soil is a living thing if you take a handful of soil there are anywhere between seven to ten ten billion organisms in it anywhere between fifty to seventy five thousand species of organisms in it but uh now with we are plowing with machines it plows anywhere between 12 to 14 inches

87 of the life on this planet including you and me come from the first 12 to 15 inches of the soil but we are plowing the soil 12 to 14 inches leaving it open to harsh sunlight and leaving it like that for months that itself is a tremendous damage we have taken to this because of monoculture you crop everything at once if it was multicultural you would crop one thing the other thing other thing would be still there and when you by the time you crop that another one would have again grown up you know

there would be some greenery on the soil and organic activity would be going on microorganisms would be alive and active but now it's a single crop you take everything out by machines plow it and leave it open to the sun that's causing a massive damage now if we do it another way if you have a bunch of different plants growing there and you you leave trees for shade and all sorts is there enough land with what you're what they're growing on now with the amount of food that they're growing now is this scalable if you

have some sort of regenerative agriculture plan we can grow much more on much less land really yes see we have been doing this for over 24 25 years now we have converted a few hundred thousand farmers into what is called as tree-based agriculture earlier we used to call it as uh agroforestry then it came under trouble because then the whole thing went under the forest ministry forest ministry is full of restrictions it is actually agricultural land but it was called as agroforestry so we retitled it as tree-based agriculture so now it's under the agriculture ministry

because it's farmer's land it's not forest land right so by doing this properly there are scientific ways of doing it different crops can be done differently and pruning the trees at the right time and taking that see enough green material should be generated on the farm enough animal waste must be generated in the farm right now animals have gone out of the farms and trees have gone off the farm so where is the organic material these are only two two sources of organic material that you have in the world you may have any kind because

i have been in california in the last month and whatever you say somebody comes up and says guru my friend has made an app it can solve any problem see with technology you may be able to improve the application i'll give that margin but you cannot generate organic content with technology it's only plant life and animal life which can create organic content there is no way you can generate organic content anywhere else it has to come from the land simply there is no other way if i can tell you a joke you're getting very serious

about this soil business i love a joke this happened in 2016. a few scientists from the planet got an appointment with god they wanted to meet him they went there and said hey old man you've done pretty well with creation but today everything that you can do we can also do it's time you retire god said oh is that so what is it that you can do so they dug up a little bit of soil and made a vague picture of a human child and did so many things and within a few minutes the child

set up alive god said oh that's really impressive but first get your own soil [Laughter] everything whether it's a worm or an insect or a plant or a bird or an animal or human beings we've all come from soil there is nothing else here on this planet which is not the source is not soil everything the source is soil so say if you have something that's a large mono crop like corn it's a big one in america and you wanted to transfer transform the way they're growing corn and make it so that it's sustainable and

that you have some sort of regenerative agriculture situation how would you do that see if you want to grow monocrops i i wouldn't advise that i that's not the best way to do it but for commercial reasons you want to do monocropping all right right you're a corn farmer you don't want to grow anything else if that is so you must put back substantial amount of organic content because even if you take a corn plant which grows almost six to seven feet tall and you're only eating the corn you don't have animals on the farm

largely if you just the plant part of it if you just chop it into pieces and put it back in the soil the soil will be very happy you got your corn anyway and soil will be very rich what do they do with it now right now they bail it up and sell it to somebody some people in some countries they just burn it they use it as fuel for you know household purposes or they use it in so many other ways but it is not going back into the soil and they just use commercial

fertilizer for yes that will last see that will last for first uh 10 20 years maximum after that it will start diminishing because you can't just grow with salts you need organic content because the way the soil mechanics happen is it's a very complex and sophisticated marketplace the plants have to capture the carbon from the atmosphere and make it into carbon sugars and that is the currency with which it can exchange for nutrients with organisms they won't give it free so even in our own stomach you today you know that without the gut microbiome you

cannot really digest the food that you eat without their cooperation though what is happening in the soil is probably a thousand ten thousand or a million times more complex operation who we are right now as a life we're just a consequence of what's happening in the soil even in the evolutionary process that's how it's happened that today what we are right now over 60 percent of our bodies actually microorganisms only 40 percent is our parental genetics rest is all microorganisms so what we are now is a reflection of what's in the soil the moment you

weaken the soil life on the planet will start becoming weak people don't notice this uh i know this is a controversial thing to say but i think you're known for controversy so what's my problem so i'm saying see for example there are certain countries which are suffering this whole uh corona virus much more than the other i don't want to make a absolute statement about this but one thing is something we must look at is any doctor you don't need a top virologist a simple doctor will tell you if you lack vitamin a vitamin b6

b12 d e and uh you know foliate and iron and zinc and magnesium in your system you will become susceptible to upper respiratory tract infections this is a known fact yes so what is the deficiency in america vitamin e most americans are 90 deficient d yes yes vitamin a 43 deficient vitamin c 39 deficient like this you can go on with all these deficiencies we are trying to make it up with pills i see i was in los angeles uh last month and there is a building-sized hoarding which says uh my favorite pharmacy said when

did this happen when the next thing is you'll say my favorite hospital next thing you'll say my favorite symmetry yeah your pharmacy and hospital and symmetry are not favorite places we go there only when it's inevitable we may have to go there yeah but we don't wish to go there when you say something is my favorite you want to go there all right that's what it means so you should never have a favorite pharmacy or a favorite symmetry for that matter it is a place when it's inevitable something some trouble came we will have to

go but today it's become the norm in well the most affluent country in the nation where there's a variety of choices of nourishment in this country without pills you cannot exist because the food doesn't have the stuff so once the food doesn't have the stuff people won't have it either all animals won't have it either so the very species will become weaker and weaker by the day in a few generations it'll become so weak that we won't be able to sustain a common cold we could become like that so you taking a pill will bridge

you for some time it is not a solution for life when something is lacking a pill will bridge us across a little bit but it is not a solution how it comes through the complex mechanism of food and how it becomes part of our body and a simple chemical of a tablet they are not the same thing they will not do the same things to us and what other consequences it has nobody can ever estimate because there are so many other consequences in a country like united states where there is a whole choice of nourishment

and a whole choice of lifestyles you are spending nearly three and a half trillion dollars in health care that is a huge statement about america's health well it's it's very obvious if you look at most americans and what's really interesting is there was a there's been some photos that people have put up recently of uh beaches from the 1970s and you see these people on the beach with their shirts off and bikinis on and they look so good they look so much healthier they look so much different than people look today when you go to

the beach today you have a large i mean it's a representative of america and in america some large percentage of people are overweight and a lot of that is because of the food choices a lot of that is because uh what's fast and quick and available one one thing about one thing about obesity is see when the food lacks the necessary nutrients the body longs for more food yes to fulfill that need yes so you end up eating more and more thinking you'll i mean the body is thinking that it'll get nourishment by eating more

right that more makes you grow horizontally yes and it's also like the kind of food you know if there's food that has a lot of sugar in it your body freaks out and just wants more of it it can't stop eating it because it's an unnatural state to have that much sugar in something that doesn't have fiber that like if you're drinking a sugary drink i mean it's i don't know how to say this i'm not uh being disparaging about a nation or a society go ahead but uh the food choices in america are atrocious

there's a lot of bad choices um but there's also there's a disconnect in america because there's so many people that live in urban environments that are completely removed from the process of growing raising cattle raising animals raising food growing vegetables they have no connection to it they don't know about it at all they just look for the term organic when they go to the supermarket and they feel like they're healthy if they do that see uh i mean this is not that uh talking about women's choices of footwear but i call this high heel life

that means you're well above the earth you're living in an apartment which is uh 14 floors above the earth you're walking all the time with insulated from the earth in every way you are trying to be away from the earth yeah which is the wrong way you people may believe they will go to different types of heavens depending on their belief systems but we all come from the same soil being connected with that is most essential because the body is thriving only because of its natural connection well they have classes now where people are grounding

where they go outside and they take their shoes off and walk around and lay on the ground they're paying money to hug a cow yes legitimate tree hugging like real tree hugging like it used to be a you know a term that we'd use to people to make fun of them but now it's legitimate like people are hugging trees to try to get better grounding is like the principles of grounding the idea is that there's some sort of a connection that you get from mother earth that the only way you get it is to be

bare skinned touching the grass and the soil and that there's actually a benefit to that no they're mainly talking about the electrical positive charge getting neutralized that is that is true it is true it is true but it's not the most important aspect the more important aspect is the microbial life in your body and the microbial life in the soil are cousins they need to meet they need reunions if that doesn't happen you're living like a lab rat all the time washing yourself up with all kinds of things that nothing can be on your hands

nothing can be on your feet so there is no connection with the source in that the body suffers and today there is substantial scientific data to show how uh you know micronutrients or lack of micronutrients and mental illnesses are very directly connected yes today the who is predicting a mental illness pandemic see what this means is we said coronavirus pandemic what this means is if we are in this room three people all three of us are susceptible we may get it all right now mental illness pandemic means just that any one of us can go

lose it right now well we're going there i mean in in 2020 in japan more people committed suicide then they died of coronavirus how's that it's pretty crazy so in a country where it's affluent they're not dying for economic reasons obviously not because of poverty not because of hunger no just they're not able to handle their own minds one important aspect it's not the only aspect but one important aspect is lack of micronutrients that's directly connected to the type of soil that we're walking upon right now and where we grow food when we say where

we grow food 71 percent of the world's soil or world's land is under cultivation in the world so why i'm focusing on agricultural soil people ask why not uh what rainforest why not the ocean yes all those things need to be taken care of i 100 agree with that but agricultural soil is that place agricultural land is that place which is every day tended to by a human being a man or woman is on the land tending to it the place that is being regularly tended to by a human being is in its worst possible

condition where there is no human footprint everything seems to be fine well the problem is just this see we are the most intelligent species on the planet or more intellectual species on the planet i would like to withdraw the intelligence aspect we are the most competent for sure in terms of ability to do things right our competence is increasing by the day what uh thousand people or ten thousand uh people could not do a thousand years ago today one man can do that is the level of competence because of technology we have that with this

level of competence and intellect one important thing is we must be functioning consciously if we function unconsciously and compulsively we become a destructive force all this destruction has happened not because of some evil plan when you mentioned a company and said is it them this is why i don't want this narrative to grow it is not happened because of some evil plan this has happened in search of human well-being in search of human beings human beings trying to happy human beings trying to live well that is why they turn the planet upside down isn't it

in some ways but it's also profit human beings trying to profit people doing things that aren't people want profit because that is the only way they can be well those who making losses are they well yeah sort of but a lot of them they're they're already well they're they're greedy they've gotten past the point of being well now they've gotten connected to the idea of accumulating vast sums of money no that is being judgmental calling somebody greedy because uh see uh if i have one meal a day which is my normal i think i'm doing

fine if somebody else has one meal a day he thinks he's very poor he wants two the guy is having two things he's poor because somebody else is having three one who has a little home he thinks he's poor because somebody has a big home like this so what is greed and what is not greed well i'll tell you what greed is if you make choices where you know that the thing that you're doing whether you're distributing a product or whether you're causing an action that is going to be detrimental to human beings but you

cover up the data to hide the fact that it's going to be detrimental because you want to maximize your profit and you don't care about the negative impact it has on people because you're only thinking about money and you're already substantially wealthy that by definition is being greedy right uh see by definition it's like this somebody's dreaming of a million dollars he thinks that is the ultimate goal in his life but a guy who has a million he's wanting to be a billionaire right one who is a billionaire he looks at somebody who has 100

billion dollars he thinks at least that much he must have right so i'm saying instead of being judgmental about this human well-being is sought from outside that is the whole problem see human experience essentially happens from within whether it's your joy or misery comes from within you isn't it maybe somebody or something can stimulate it from outside but still it happens within you joy and misery happens from within you pain and pleasure happens from within you agony and ecstasy happens from within you every human experience happens from within you but in pursuit of happiness we're

turning the world upside down because this is the case of a you know there was an old potato farmer one day he wanted to eat apples so he went to an apple tree but by habit he started digging for the apples till the tree came down on him because he's a potato farmer so right now human beings have become like this they have gotten used to this that they think by getting this by getting that by having one more thing and one more thing they're going to be happy yes but human experience happens from within

if you take charge of your interiority being peaceful and happy is a natural consequence of that but for convenience and comfort we do things outside to create impact we do things outside so this experience of if human beings were naturally joyful by their own nature they would only do what is needed nothing more nothing less but right now they're in pursuit of happiness you can't stop them yeah they are in pursuit of happiness but they're also again in pursuit of profit because it's a number based system so it becomes like a game and you get

connected to corporations when you're in a corporation there's a diffusion of responsibility because you don't think about your own involvement and what the corporation is doing you think about your role what you do as a job and then you try to maximize profit and it's a game that people get wrapped up in yeah but that is uh doesn't make them happy you're absolutely correct no no it's in pursuit of happiness but what's in pursuit of success see most human beings cannot be happy if they're not successful isn't it there's a lot of that yes no

and then they get medicated to help them get happy that's a lot of people i mean what percentage of people are not following by the principles that you're espousing which would are very natural and very healthy and they instead follow this corporate structure the corporate guidelines they follow that path and they're not happy so what do they do they medicate themselves no today we've come to this place where if you want to be peaceful you need a chemical you want to be joyful you need a chemical you want to be healthful you need a chemical

well you want to be ecstatic of course there is a chemical right so what is the consequence of this why this is happening one thing is in this generation one thing that's happened in people's minds is the heaven has collapsed in people's minds the heaven yes how so see i've been talking to people 50 years ago if i spoke to people and i asked how many of you want to go to heaven almost 80 percent would raise their hands today you go to your university and ask them how many of you want to go to

heaven they'll say they think it's a ridiculous question all right nobody will raise their hand so in their minds heaven is collapsed there's no place to go so they want to do it everything here all right so they have not found how to be joyful and ecstatic within themselves so chemical usage initially it became alcohol then it became chemicals it's getting stronger and stronger and uh you know so many people dying of those things every every day and illnesses and it's costing a nation in the world a lot it's not just in one country it's

it's going across the world law enforcement agencies may be controlling it a little bit but they can never control it totally because the consumption is mass based it is more people may be consuming these things than people eating bread it's becoming like that so this whole moment where it's going means if you do not raise human consciousness if you do not teach people how to sit here feeling absolutely blissed out within yourself by your own nature because this human mechanism is the most sophisticated chemical factory if you are a good ceo you would produce the

chemicals that will give you fantastic experience if you're a lousy ceo you're giving yourself a bad experience yes now you're buying chemicals from outside to fix that all right so essentially you're a bad manager of your own system you're not taking charge of this why is that happen because your education your society is talking about conquering the world but never taught you anything about how to take charge of this do you agree with me the most are in this room there's so much technology here in this room the most complex and sophisticated technology is within

your system yes or no human system yes this is have you read the user's manual there's no user's manual there is there is yes where is it it's built into the machine oh how do i get it you need to pay attention you're reading you know engineering read that carefully there i'm reading it i'm in the middle i'm at part two there are uh pointers as to how to read your own user's manual yes let me take you back to this concept of heaven you know when you're talking about uh people in universities that you

say how many of them want to go to heaven the problem is they don't have any evidence of heaven and so when a lot of these young people that are atheists or agnostics they don't want to buy into anything that they believe is connected to fairy tales or they're connected to some sort of an ideology that they believe was manufactured to control people and to keep people in the church collapsed in their minds in their minds but it's also because heaven is connected to religion and religion is connected to atrocities there's a lot of people

that think of religion they think of the the evils of the catholic church or they think of you know what religion has justified the horrors of history the things that people have done in the name of religion so a lot of younger sophisticated intelligent people don't want to believe in anything that there's no evidence for so when you say how many of them want to go to heaven say show me a video tell me where i'm going do you have a map of heaven i am not asking that question offering a ticket i'm just telling

you heaven is collapsed in people's minds which is a good thing because it's a good thing it is because because the idea that this is not the place to live well there is another place where you will live right it's a wrong idea right this is the place to live well you can have heaven right here yes and uh who told you you're not already in heaven and making a mess out of it um no one i think that's possible we are in a heaven making a mess out of it we also already know whether

we want to fix the soil or we want to fix the human mind we are only trying to see that you don't mess up the heaven in which we have landed yes i i could agree with that i think the problem is the term heaven when you say it people think of a biblical heaven they think of a place that you go no no every religion has their own kind of heaven that's the whole thing i'm saying before bible came there have been heavens in other places yes yes you know one thing i found this

is one thing good about this soil is see people may even have separate heavens to go to but we all come from the same soil our bodies go back to the same soil so this is a unifying factor irrespective of one's religion caste creed whatever else so in your mind this concept of heaven relates to like a harmony amongst yourself the in the people the living things around you including the soil see essentially it's like this if you feel pleasant in your body we call this health yes if you feel very pleasant in your body

we call this pleasure if you feel pleasant in your mind we call this peace if you feel very pleasant we call this joy if you feel very pleasant if you feel pleasant in your emotion we call this love if you feel very pleasant we call it compassion if you feel very pleasant in your very life energies then we call this blissfulness if you become very very pleasant then we call it ecstasy if your surroundings become pleasant we call it success so to create pleasantness in the surroundings we need the cooperation of people and forces around

us without everybody's cooperation you can't create a pleasant atmosphere but pleasantness of the body pleasantness of the mind pleasantness of emotion and energy is 100 your business isn't it so if you're feeling ecstatic you are in heaven because your idea of heaven is a very pleasant place isn't it yes this place this planet earth is very pleasant except for the human beings who cr creating unpleasantness among each other well this sounds like a great concept but human beings are very complex their emotions are complex their needs and desires and their trauma and pain and insecurities

and and all mental health issues how does one get to that spot like what you're saying sounds wonderful i mean you're a guru you're a literal guru so when you sit here and tell people these things they go well that sounds easy for that guy no look at him it's it's not why isn't it it's not easy if you got a great beard it is not easy or difficult it's not it is a question of wrong direction or right direction that is you went to an apple tree and you're digging the roots because you're a

potato farmer that is the only problem you have you're you're the source and seat of your experiences within you what happens within you should it happen your way or my way tell me your way or my way no what happens within you should it happen your way or my way well it's within me when you say within me do you mean my thoughts your thoughts your emotion your body whatever your chemistry your energy everything what happens within you should it happen your way or somebody else's way well i think uh if your way sucks maybe

you should listen to other people and maybe try their way see if it happened your way would you keep yourself blissful or miserable you would keep yourself blissful if you were wise if you were wise and your mind was working properly but if you have mental health issues that's exactly what you're if you're filled with trauma if you're poorly educated you're starting from a deficit a severe deficit where you don't think correctly no no that's not that is not the that is not the problem the original problem the root of the problem is let's address

one step at a time okay see right now the simple question is what happens in your mind your emotion your chemistry your energies must be your way isn't it it well it's yours yes it is yours so it must be your way but it's not happening your way right now because it's in a compulsive reactive state okay so see anybody can cause anything within you so if i decide what clothes you must wear what food you must eat what you should do every day you will call this slavery isn't it but the government don't go

there so uh right now someone else something else can decide what happens within you isn't this the most horrible form of slavery that someone can decide whether you're happy or unhappy yeah that's not good that's not that's not the best so the problem is just this an intelligence which needs to be conscious is unfortunately unconscious and compulsive so the only problem that you have is compulsive reaction to life around you what is needed is a conscious response to life so this simple thing people have not handled from their childhood right so when you don't handle

this one thing everything will be wrong everything will be accidental your success and failure both are accidental so what do you say to someone maybe they're 30 years old and they've had this life of mistakes and regret and maybe alcoholism or gambling or some other problems but they want to be conscious they want to be blissful they want to be enlightened they want to be a happy person filled with love what path do they take what what steps do they take to correct the journey they're on why is why is it though human beings are

not the strongest creatures on the planet compared to other species why is it that human beings are dominating this world simply because of our ability to use tools isn't it and our intellect our ability to manipulate our environment yes but even then if we didn't have knowledge of using tools right the buffalos would have mowed us down all right yes so your intellect they don't care it's your ability to use tools you made an arrow you made a gun you made so many things you made a house yes yes everything all instruments right now microphone

yes or telephone or whatever else these are all instruments to enhance we are this much because of our instruments we become that much right now there is one little screw here in this furniture i will ask you you are a strong guy i will ask you to unscrew this with your hands can't do it you do it you may lose all your nails i'll allow you to use your teeth maybe you lose some of them it's gonna be a problem but it'll be right there but if i give you a screwdriver boom do it easy

in a minute you will get it out so this is the power of the tool yeah so as there are tools for doing things in the external world there are tools to handle this because you don't have a tool kit this machine which is the most complex machine is going crazy right now you're in reading in engineering it's a tool kit yes you just use the tools don't worry about the philosophy don't worry about belief system don't worry about your concept somebody's concepts your beliefs somebody's beliefs just use the necessary tools being peaceful joyful loving

is a natural outcome of that okay well what are those tools like the scenario that i laid out you have a person who's 30 years old they have a history of trauma in their life they're very unhappy very depressed maybe they're alcoholics they're trying to get their life in order today i want you to understand this the issue foundation and the sinner engineering process that we're doing around the world in 2021 i think 2020 2021 i think it's 2021 our video views are 2.2 billion 2.2 billion video views yes that's a lot yes why because

it's worked and because we have it has worked i'm saying for people yeah we have over 16 million volunteers working with the foundation why are they doing this because the only reason is it is worked what is it that's worked i did not teach them a morality i did not teach them a philosophy i did not promise them miracles i did not pull gold chains out of thin air and give it to them no nothing simply tools to fix themselves well just how to sit how to breathe how to manage yourself this is all yes

you're entertaining you know that's also one of the reasons why you have that many views how many views do we have have you guessed please pull your mic down so we can hear you on youtube i guess yeah let's just go with youtube no no it's okay all told how many views [Music] i don't know say four billion it's okay no i don't know probably about the same sounds about right yeah and we don't we're not teaching you no that's not true other people are that are on there but i i think that i i

see what you're saying that it works but you know why it works is what are those tools this is all very like mystic difficult for people to grasp there are there are mystical aspects also but that is not for everybody but i mean in this conversation only for those who are interested in those things who want to pursue that aspect for the rest of the people for somebody if their back back goes away his life changes for somebody if his headache goes away his life changes yes somebody drops his alcohol consumption addiction is life changes

yeah somebody some compulsive thought that maybe drives him crazy that goes away these are simple things this is just a small screwdriver is all he needs he doesn't need a total overhaul mysticism is a different aspect it is like you're not just interested in living well you want to know the very root of life yes that's a different aspect that's not for everybody that is only for those who seek that but for common people all they want to do is they want to live peacefully joyfully with some sense of purpose to whatever they're doing in

their lives for this it's very simple you're talking about a case of a 30-year person 30-year-old person who has this problem this problem this problem yes i have millions of them with me 30 40 60 all kinds from 16 to any age all right so if it did not work they wouldn't be working for the foundation we are we are a volunteer organization with 5 600 full-time volunteers and over 16 million part-time volunteers everything is done by volunteers well obviously you're doing something right it's working that's all i'm saying so what is it when you

say it is work see people don't know how to sit right people don't know how to eat what to eat when to eat they don't know they're just eating like instinctively see instinctive existence would be fine if you had the intelligence of an animal with this level of intelligence if you function instinctively you will be destructive to yourself and to everybody around you that's what is happening in the world instinctively is fine if you have an animal well listen i have an animal if i left a lot of food around he would just eat himself

to death oh animals yeah they won't do that my dog would the dog has become like you inspired by you but if that's a problem while the animal will eat what it wants and then it'll move on that's true that's true yeah humans have really messed dogs up they've turned them into people [Laughter] dogs are actually the the human version of animals um so when you say it works though like for a person that is listening to this that is seeking some sort of uh a path to a better life what would you recommend they

do first the simplest thing they need to understand is human experience is caused from within not from outside right now see somebody can abuse you let's say they're just words right now i'm going to abuse you in a language that you don't understand you know india india has 1300 languages i can just 1300 yeah wow i didn't know that so i'm going to use some indian language and abuse you with a smile on my face okay you think i'm saying something very sweet to you go ahead yes so my abuse is not hurting you at

all right it's only your reaction which is going to hurt you got it right yes so in whichever language it is whatever nonsense it is it is only your reaction which hurts you not my words ever right but you think my words are hurting you this you must change within you you need to understand it's your compulsive reaction to life which hurts you not what other people are doing if somebody hurts you physically that's a different matter it's a survival issue you need to take care of that properly okay physical hurt is different physical pain

is actually very good for you because if there's a company yes i'll come if there was no physical pain most people would not know how to survive because they wouldn't know what not to do yeah in the name of tea even though there is so much pain see how tattooed people are how poked up they are all over if there was no pain yeah they've got all kinds of holes all over the place all right it hurts i'm saying i'm not yes commenting on their fashion i'm saying it hurts yes but in spite of that

they're doing if there was no pain at all they would have pulled out their intestines and walk on the street like a handbag all right probably yes yeah if there was no pain people would not even know how to survive so in that sense pain is good for them it prevents them from doing something absolutely destructive towards themselves so physical pain is a survival mechanism that's a different aspect but rest of the pain is caused in their own mind can i i can cause physical pain to you but can i cause mental pain to you

you can initiate something i will do nonsense all right i will do total nonsense but it's you who causes that pain within yourself by reacting in a certain way okay so if i initiate things in a language that you don't understand you're just fine all right it doesn't work so it is not my words or my actions which are causing pain to you it's your compulsive reaction yes which is causing that this is a beautiful concept but for a lot of people they develop these patterns of behavior and thinking that are very difficult to break

so how does one come up with the practices that would allow them to consistently and continually understand this and apply this to their life see the patterns are formed not only in the psychological structure the patterns are formed in the chemical structure of the body the patterns are formed in the energy structures of the body the patterns are formed in the karmic structures of one's system so the memory patterns establish themselves in every way and make you that kind of person all right but that that kind of person you are is something that you created

unconsciously if you can create something unconsciously you can also create the same thing consciously isn't it so you can fix the same thing consciously i mean no i'm saying if you create one kind of persona unconsciously yes you can also create another kind of persona consciously isn't it yes you can very much conscious choice to create a healthy so right now because the patterns patterns are so well established it's like a rut industry a road all right if there is a deep rut in the road even if you steer it this way it drags you

that way yeah so that is what is happening in people because they have formed patterns strong patterns even if they once in a way think oh i must give up the drink they come off for two days and again they slip back into the same thing because there is a chemical pattern there is a karmic pattern there is a psychological pattern there is a compulsiveness built into the body itself the whole system so that is working that way there are various tools and technologies as to how to break these patterns but they must be willing

to subject themselves you can't force them to do it it is not something by force it can only be done when somebody is willing when they have a genuine desire then there are tools if you don't have the desire even if i give you the screwdriver you'll turn it the wrong way and tighten it further i'm saying right i see what you're saying so what what actions should someone take besides recognizing that the way they react to things is a conscious choice that they choose to either be upset or not be upset or to to

react to these external upset not upset that is not the point no are you a conscious response or are you an unconscious uh compulsive reaction this is the only thing reaction or response so response means right now i say something that you may not like now you can respond the way you want not because of what i said right you continue to say what you want this is your response but you don't have to react if you react you in some way unknowingly you'll become enslaved to me isn't it that's what a lot of people

love to do right that's why they start fights they're always reacting yes they think reacting is the way to live yeah well if you react you become somebody's slave i mean i must tell you this on a certain day a yogi was coming this way coming to joe rogan's show on the way somebody stopped him on the street and abused him in every possible way he listened to everything carefully not ignoring them listening to very alert listening to every word of abuse then he looked at the time and he said see i have a show

i need to go i'll finish that and come back if you have something more to say you can tell me that now these guys don't know what to do with him if these are that kind of people they will say hundred things if you say one thing they will next thing is they'll beat you but now if you say 100 things he says i'll come back for more you don't know what to do with him why he's like this is he's decided that he is the master of his destiny no matter who does what he

will go where he wants to go intelligent man or no a man who goes where he wants to go no matter what anybody else is doing to him that is a smart man isn't it it's definitely a better choice than just being a reactionary if your reaction you'll go away their way yes somebody will take you their way somebody will take you this way somebody will take you that way such a person will they ever achieve anything that they wish to in their life they might get lucky see those those who achieve things by luck

always live with the fear of losing it yes they panic right and they're always worried and they they get greedy because they're scared yes this came by chance and it may go away by chance yeah they have family if you have if you've done it by knowing what you're doing if you lose everything today you can create it again because you know the mechanics of how to do right and likely you won't lose it you won't lose it yeah so what should a person do should they start taking yoga should they uh start thinking a

certain way every day about their life and the way they're responding to things and whether or not they're reacting to that guy falling off the sky or is he doing yoga in your studio he's getting abducted by a ufo okay that's a that's a flying saucer i get you what do you think about flying saucers what do you think about like welcome let's do yoga faster okay so uh we'll get to that we'll get to that okay so uh right now we're trying to fix the soil then we'll go to another place let's go with

yoga first so the word yoga in united states it scares me because here yoga means you must look like a leftover noodle twisted out like this like that right the word yoga means union union union means right now we were talking about the soil as you sit here you're just an outcrop of soil you may not realize this because you're sitting on a chair you're wearing shoes and because you can prance around but if you were made like a tree you would clearly understand you are part of the soil isn't it yes or most people

will understand when you bury them then they know they are part of the soil otherwise they just don't know that they're part of the soil they think they came from somewhere a lot of people started talking i'm from some other planet this talk is also going on but essentially you are part of this but you are not experiencing it that way this is not only true with soil this is true with the entire creation with the cosmos itself today modern science has come to this that as you sit here every subatomic particle in your body

is actually in communication with everything else is this an image of cosmos that you have sort of it's just random stars and occasionally you'll see a shooting star so uh it is this is a part of everything yes if you don't go want to go that far at least this is a part of the planet there's no question about that that's very clear but such an experience is not there if can i tell you my how this happened to me yes so when i was four or five years of age i suddenly realized i don't

know anything i don't know anything means i don't know anything at all if i look at a glass of water i don't know what this is i know i can drink it i know in how many ways i can use it but i don't know what it is even today with so much scientific exploration we still do not know one atom in its entirety we know how to use it we know how to break it we know how to fuse it we know how to make a bomb out of it but we don't know what

it is even today we don't know what it is so if i found a leaf i'm just staring at it for five six hours at a stretch if i sit up in the bed i'm just staring at the darkness for the whole night my dear father being a physician started thinking i need some psychiatric evaluation he started saying this boy is staring at something all the time it looks like he's lost it my problem is i'm looking at this i still don't know what this is i am not able to shift my attention to anything

else in this condition they sent me to school my mother said don't look here and there pay attention to the teacher so i went and paid attention to the teacher the kind of attention they would have never received in their entire life i'm paying absolute attention to the teacher initially i kind of understood what they were trying to say but after some time i realized that they're just making noises i'm making up the meanings in my mind even now it is so isn't it language is a conspiracy between two people the moment i talk another

language you i'm just making sounds as far as you're concerned so when i just heard they're just making sounds i'm the one who's making up the meanings i stopped making meanings hour after hour teacher after teacher they come and make noises and noises and noises and go it became so amusing to me a big smile spread on my face they were not amused at all you were five when this was happening yeah they sent me to school when i was three and a half did this uh accelerate over time did it start off slowly and

and yes the thing is i don't know one thing from the other i look at the sky tremendous things i look at a tree i see every leaf and it drives me crazy i can't figure out where this is coming from what's happening endless amount of things if i look at a pebble i'll keep on looking at it for hours because i don't know what it is because there is so much to it if you take an atom you can spend a lifetime looking at it still not knowing what it is that's the nature of

the creation all right it's that complex so my schooling went on like this and uh i slowly started going there only when it was absolutely necessary otherwise i had my own excursions going so about 11 12 years ago this school where i studied over 50 years ago they come to me and say sadhguru you must come it is our 125th anniversary of the school you must come and speak i said see why me because i was not just a not good student i was not even a student i was barely there why why are you

asking me to come i'm not a good example for any of your students they said no our school has produced ministers our school has produced cricketing stars sports stars film stars you are the only mystic so you must come so i went i went and stood up to speak in the same quarter angle the oppressive buildings around me and i looked at this classroom and i suddenly remembered and i narrated this to them see i was around 12 years of age and one teacher came and those days because i don't know anything what's there to

talk for days on end i don't utter a word i just go to the sports field i play intensely any game that is there and classroom home i don't say a thing because i don't know anything so what is there to say so this teacher is asking me some question i'm looking at him i know his past present and future sitting there but i don't know what he's talking about initially i hear the words after some time i'm just seeing him like a blob of energy like that and i know that guy through and through

but i don't know what he's talking about 35-40 minutes he tried to get an answer from me i didn't say nothing so he came held me by the shoulder shook me violently like this and said you must be either the divine or the devil i think you're the later see till then my problem was i didn't know what is this what is that what is that what is that but it was clear this is me suddenly this guy confused me about this also i looked at myself what is this is this divine devil what the

hell is this this question had never come to me till i was 12. i had a question about everything in the universe but this was clear this was me suddenly this guy confused me about this also then i tried to stare at myself it didn't work i started closing my eyes and initially it started with minutes say 22 hours see 22 days sometimes i just close my eyes and sat for days on end this in the whole experience of my life when i was 25 i just burst into an experience where suddenly every cell in

my body was dripping ecstasy like that suddenly yeah i was sitting on a rock and just i burst out like this for the first time in my life adult life tears were coming tears and me were impossible i lived like that so uh i was just wondering what's happening when i i thought it's 10 15 minutes when i came out it was four and a half hours my shirt was wet with tears that what's happening to me am i going off the rocker or something that's the only thing my skeptical mind could tell me because

i was a super skeptic about everything in the universe i had a question about everything about the family structure about the social society about religion about politics about economics about everything so what do you think was happening i'll tell you then i talked to my closest friends hey something is happening to me i'm just blissed out you know if i just talk to them tears are coming to me they said what's happening to you man what did you drink what did you pop this is a question then i knew there was no context to my

experience so i spent started spending more and more time by myself and i realized if i just take my hands off my mind completely then i see that every cell in my body just bursts out with blissfulness then i establish this properly within myself how to do that then i sat down and made a plan at that time the world's population was 5.6 billion people i made a plan in two and a half years time i will hope make the whole world ecstatic here i am 40 years later it took me time to realize people

are so deeply invested in their miseries that even if you offer them the best thing they will go round and round and round around that not getting the point because they're too deeply invested in something they don't realize as you sit here and through your misery or joy life is slipping away every heartbeat is life going away isn't it yeah it's not the clock ticking it is life ticking away as we sit here moment by moment we're getting closer to our grave people don't understand their mortal this is the biggest problem on a daily basis

they're not conscious that as i sit here my time is running out i need to make the best out of this if i'm conscious that i'm mortal if i know my timing is running out i would keep myself in the best possible way i wouldn't have time to quarrel with somebody i wouldn't have time to do nasty things to somebody or to myself i would do the best to myself but naturally when you're feeling wonderful you do wonderful things to everybody around you a happy person a very joyful person is naturally a pleasant person to

everybody when you're feeling nasty you will share it with people of course the same nastiness so this process i decided we must somehow share this with people so i started building devices i was practicing yoga since i was 12 years of age a simple form of yoga that also i got in for all the wrong reasons all the wrong reasons yeah in the sense i was around 11 12 years of age this was my story about the well yeah you know the story so i got in for the wrong reason thinking i'll become a superhuman

like him but it is something else tell the story to people so that you know this is a ancestral home where uh we are about 35 36 of cousin brothers and sisters who live in different cities we all come and converge in our ancestral home for the summer vacation usually 30 to 45 days max so it's one rollicking place all the kids totally out of control and doing all kinds of things the young boys one of the things is there's a drinking water well in the backyard which is about eight eight feet in diameter about

150 feet in depth in summer months when we go there it's at least 60 70 feet below the ground level the water so we jump into this well you have to go straight if you go this way your brain will become a smear on the wall actually you have to go straight did that ever happen uh it's happened to other people not to me my brains are still here you yeah i mean but you do you know no not in our house it didn't happen it's happened to other boys yeah and when you want to

come up there is no step anything you just have to hold the rock and come up you know you're just about one centimeter half an inch is what you have in the rock grip your entire weight is on these four fingers so your nails will start bleeding out of shear pressure so i could come up pretty well i was uh coming up very well on out of that so i'm very proud and i can do it better than people so one day we are doing this act and a man who is over 70 years of

age was watching us without a word he just walked and jumped into the well i thought the old guy is finished but he came up faster than me i didn't like it i said how he said come and do yoga so i followed him like a puppy so i got into yoga for all the wrong reasons i'm saying this because even for wrong reasons if you do the right things right things will happen to you this is the beauty about this world so this was how old were we at the time 12 so this was

along the same time that you were having these realizations about the nature of things it was they all sort of came together like it's a very fortuitous sort of when i look back and i look back it's all like a set plan all right at that time it was all wonderful accidents happening yes that's a thing that happens though sometimes right when you're on the right path like wonderful accidents do sort of seem to happen see the thing is just this if you're designed to fly if something is designed to fly if the stronger the

wind is the higher it flies you know i'm a licensed helicopter pilot oh really yeah everybody thinks winds are a bad thing no winds are great only when you're landing if it's crosswind it's a little bit of a issue otherwise if without headwind you can't really fly all right too much a storm is a different thing but headwinds are good that's why the airplane flies all right it's because of that there is aerodynamics and it flies so if you're designed to fly this is what is important what yoga means is you get yourself geometrically correct

what being geometrically correct means is see every physical creation in the universe has a geometry to it if the geometry is in such a way that it has least amount of friction then it functions at its best when would you say suppose you start your car engine and he said card cut cut cut would you say this is well engineered car you start it you don't even know you can't feel the engine then you said this is a good car because it's only unless you make it roar you can't feel the engine that means everything

is going smoothly with least amount of friction so it is a geometric perfection which does this so everything that is physical in the universe needs a certain perfection of geometry to function at a certain level of competence so this geometry today there is something called as constructional theory they're making it yogic sciences are deeply invested in this that is how an atom is made how an amoeba is made a single cell organism is made how you are made how the universe is made the fundamental design is not different it's the same design the complexity and

sophistication is multiplying many many fold but essentially it's the same design so this is what today we're calling as the carbon chain on this planet whether it's a microorganism or a tree or the atmosphere or the water or a human being everything is one chain if you break one link everything could collapse on your head you know that's what we're talking about when we talk about soil one link has become very weak if you don't strengthen that the entire chain could collapse because a chain is as strong as a individual link and this one link

of the soil has become super thin if you push it any further the whole thing the very chain of life could collapse so it is the geometry which keeps it going for example this planet is going around the sun there is no titanium titanium chain or a cable holding it to the sun and swinging it around it's just a perfection of geometry if you just get it off its path finished it'll fly off somewhere else it'll burn itself out only because of certain geometry it has hit a certain geometry they're all there look like perpetual

machines they're not perpetual in our experience they're perpetual because our lifespan is so small but otherwise it's not perpetual at times one time it was not there at some time in future it will not be there again that's a different matter but right now it has hit a certain geometric perfection that it keeps going as if it's forever so yoga one aspect of yoga is this to get your body to a geometrically congruent state with the rest of the creation if you're geometrically congruent suddenly your experience is not that of an individual but that of

being universal so to put it very very simply it's like this see uh we can do an experiment can we sure just put your hands together with your eyes closed what you do is you rub your hands very briskly for 30 seconds now hold it three four inches away from each other something happening between them huh is it don't you feel something i feel the heat of each hand not the heat from friction no isn't there a sensation between them yeah yeah so right now see right now what is the difference between you and the

chair on which you're sitting it's only the sensations which tells you how do you know this is me this is not me right here there are sensations here no sensation so essentially what you call as myself is a certain boundary of sensations it's a sensory boundary which determines what is you and what is not you isn't it yes this water is it you it'll become me when i drink it if you put it into the boundaries of your sensation it becomes you yes and that's how this whole thing has come right when you were born

you were this much now you become this much it's the food that you've eaten water that you took and everything into the boundaries of your sensation now you experience it as myself 100 right so if you lose 10 kilograms would you think that 10 kilograms of me is gone no isn't it well you would if you look in the mirror no no in your experience your experience is exactly the same exactly you feel healthier because what is in within the boundaries of your sensation is you if you do anything vigorous or intense suddenly the boundaries

of your sensation is breached and you experience something more why there is such a big draw towards sexuality or people are rubbing each other all the time is just this yeah in a way i'm saying it is because somewhere for one moment they are something more than what they are right somebody or something which is not themselves becomes a part of them at least for a moment yes so this breaching of sensory boundary is yoga if you sit here and if you can spread your sensory body as big as this room you would experience everything

in this room as yourself see right now your heart your liver your kidney the five fingers of your hand this was not you some time ago isn't it you when you are a baby your finger was this much right now it became this much that means these fingers the way they are they were not you just some time ago but today the hundred percent you isn't it yeah how did this happen because this material got accumulated within the sense boundaries of your sensory body sensory body if you make yourself exuberant either because of joy or

blissfulness sensory body expands if you expand your body in such a way it's as big as the universe you will experience the whole universe as yourself this is yoga so the twisting turning holding the breath doing this doing that all these things are to loosen up the body in such a way that your physical body and your sensory body are not stuck to each other sensory body can expand today you know if somebody lost a limb or something they have something called as a phantom leg even if the leg is gone they're still experiencing the

leg because the sensory body is still not there so essentially physical body is acting like a scaffolding for the sensory body which gives the experience of life if your sensory body was totally dead you wouldn't experience anything even if you had your body alright so if your sensory body expands you will experience this whole room or this building or this town as yourself so this is what yoga means this is the purpose of yoga because once you experience somebody or something as a part of yourself nobody has to teach you any morality be good don't

harm them don't do this don't do that these teachings will be irrelevant for you because anything that you nobody ever thought you this little finger don't bite it off it is a poor little finger nobody had to tell you this because it's you right what you experience as myself with that you have no conflict this is what yoga means the mechanism of getting there there are various mechanisms there are actually 112 proper technologies as to how one can get into that space 112 yes you talked about in your book that i was reading you talked

about the the different kinds of yoga and you told a very funny story about god getting them all together the four yogis yeah what are the different types of yoga there's see you can do employ your body and perform action and do yoga this is karma yoga karma means action using action to attain unity with the existence if you use your intelligence to get attain unity with the existence then it is called as nana yoga yoga of intelligence if you use your emotion to get there that is called as bhakti-yoga yoga of devotion or emotion

and if you use your energies by refining and expanding your energies if you do it that is called as kriya yoga the science and technology of expanding one's energies so these are the only four ways you can do because these are only four things you have rest is all imagination you have a body you have a mind you have emotions and you have energies life energies within you beyond this rest is all made up in terms of your beliefs and imaginations these are the four realities you can only work with what you have you cannot

work with what you don't have so these four things is there anybody who is only body no mind no emotion no energy or only mind not the other three all of us are a combination of the four it's just that in one person the body may be dominant in another person the mind may be dominant in another person emotion like this different combinations of the same four ingredients are there in different human beings and different persons so accordingly yoga has to be mixed this is why the significance in the eastern cultures of having a live

guru who is looking at you and making the right concoction let's say you came to me when you were 20 naturally your body would be very dominant we would give you one type of yoga now you returned when you're 40. now maybe your mind is more dominant maybe your emotion is more dominant maybe energy is more dominant body could have receded a little bit so accordingly it has to be mixed so it is not like a common prescription everybody do this everybody do this is not going to work it needs to be mixed the right

way otherwise it won't work this is one reason a whole lot of people on the spiritual path feel first three months they seem to be going somewhere after that they are stagnant because nobody to gauge that and you know tweak that thing according to their needs so they need a guru they need someone to see the word guru is a four-letter word today in america yeah because there's a lot of fake ones that's why that's why uh i am a sad guru it has eight were eight alphabets will you tell the story about god getting

all the girls together all the different types of yogis together okay so uh this is uh on a certain day four yogis are walking in the forest one is a gnana yogi yoga of intelligence another is a karma yogi body yoga another is bhakti-yogi emotional and devotional yogi another is a kriya yogi master of energies so suddenly a storm picks up and they start running to find a shelter the bhakthi yogi who has you know who knows the geography of temples in the area he says let's go in this direction there's an ancient temple there

so they all ran there then they found an ancient temple where the walls had collapsed long time ago just the roof and in the center there's a deity they all rushed into the temple not out of love for the deity or god but just to escape the storm then the storm started lashing from every direction so they got closer closer there was no other place to sit so they all four of them hugged the deity and sat down suddenly god appeared they all wondered why now we did so much yoga you didn't come now when

you're just escaping the storm you turn up so they looked at him why now so god said at last you four idiots got together i've been waiting for this for a long time body going one direction mind going another direction emotion another way how will anything happen these four things have to come together this is very important but today the way it is happening the yoga it's become very more more like a exercise if you want exercise there are so many ways to do it goes have a swim uh maybe play tennis maybe climb a

mountain you'll bet get much better exercise yoga is not for exercise it'll also give you that it'll give you fitness also there are different types of yogas for fitness there are certain kind of yoga you must come we can do this with you it's called anga mardana that means mastering your limbs without any equipment you can master your limbs in such a way that you become very resilient people are asking me sadhguru you're 65 years of age how will you do this 30 000 kilometers on a lone motorcycle yourself riding like this across 26 or

27 countries i was just joking with them and i said uh see this is an advertisement for a yogic back you will say i will ride [Laughter] how did yoga get started like what what do you think was the origin of it because it's an ancient form of however you want to call it an ancient practice like what and it's obviously very beneficial to so many people to practice it how did it get started see there is nothing in the universe which is not yoga in the sense there is nothing in the universe which is

not one with everything else except human mind this is what we're talking about soil also there is nothing on this planet which is unconnected there is nothing in this solar system unconnected there's nothing in this universe unconnected so everything is in yoga the question is only whether you realize that or not if you realize that if you experience that then we call you a yogi a yogi means not somebody who's twisting and turning yogi means one who is experiencing the union right now that though you're an individual your experience has gone beyond your individual nature

you are experiencing the universality of your existence your individual nature is a psychological condition see physically this is what we've been talking about soil nourishment everything physically if people don't understand this if you close these two holes you know your nose holes yeah yeah keep your mouth also closed close this and see if you're not connected with the oxygen bubble around you you won't exist for two minutes right so where is your individuality i'm saying physically with food water with everything else we can say it in so many different ways but physically you know there

is no individuality to your body only psychologically this individual nature we have taken it too seriously simply because it's the magnanimity of creation that which has given us an individual experience actually in this cosmos we are like a spec if you if you look at the solar system itself from somewhere a million light years away the solar system itself is a tiny speck in that planet earth is a microspec in that microspec texas is a super microspec in that austin is a super super micro spec in that you're a big man this is a serious

problem you take yourself seriously when you're really connected to everything and you think of yourself as an individual when you're not you're really a part of it your individuality is just a psychological thing you want to see a funny meme that points to that what that say i'm triply meme do you ever do you know what memes are i think so yeah they're funny things that people well it's like a kind of a new form of comedy but this one relates very closely to what you're saying and it's this right here you are here crying

in the shower before work pointing to the outer regions of the milky way galaxy yep so this tiny micro micro super micro spec yes thinks it's the center of the universe right this is a serious issue it's a big problem for a lot of people and you know what's the function of that though like why does the human animal think that way see as i said this is the magnanimity of creation though you're a tiny speck you have an individual experience this is the greatest gift that we have we can sit here even wonder about

the universe not knowing where it begins where it ends all right yeah so this is a tremendous gift that we have been given an individuality but you're taking it too seriously for this the only cure is that you're always conscious that you're mortal your time your unlimited lease of time if you know this you will not take your individuality seriously you will enjoy it the way it is the problem is our culture thrives on individuals taking themselves seriously this is why the rich the most affluent country on the planet look at the amount of miseries

people are going through yeah there's a lot you know i remember this uh i was in 98 for the first time when i came to united states i went there to the u.s embassy in chennai to get my visa so this is you had to at that time you had to go at like 6 30 in the morning uh it would start at that time seven o'clock they will start seeing you i went there because uh you know the consul general a fine lady she had heard about me so instead of just doing at the

counter she asked me to come to her office so i went there and there she asked me see you're going to united states we've heard so much about you in india but you know if you want to teach in the united states you need a teacher you know yoga teacher certificate are you certified i said if i had asked for a certification from my guru you would have cut my throat so i don't have a certificate i live yoga i don't i don't i'm not certified then we had a long chat and then i was

coming out by about maybe 7 45. then i see outside the u.s embassy at the outside the compound one young man young boy like maybe in his early twenties sitting and crying bitterly he's crying his heart out i i couldn't ignore him you know my car was already there and then i got off the car and went to him and asked hey what's the problem his visa got rejected the guy is so bitter he could kill himself he's in that kind of condition i said why man india is a big country get lost here only

huh you will go to united states and get lost somehow you can also get lost in this country and try again if you want to go i'm not saying you should not go but okay they didn't let you go so what about it but that's not how it is people think going to united states is everything ask the people who are living here how many complaints do you have they are miserable because they are here isn't that crazy that's what i'm saying because human misery is not in india or america it is within you one

thing that struck me from your book was that you didn't read a lot of the writings on yoga until you're much older you were practicing yoga but you hadn't read read any of the ancient texts i have never read any ancient texts not even now really yes you don't have any desire to find what they were thinking because my own clarity has never failed me i don't want to confuse myself because we don't know in these many thousands of years who all have added whatever nonsense they've added to it right that's a problem like human

for a period of time you know every scripture has been meddled with who i appear yes but anyway all scriptures it doesn't matter where they got the information from how they received it but written by human beings all right language is written by human beings there's no question people may say god dictated to me but still even if i dictate something to you you can still write it wrong yes so i'm saying those books i never read the only book i read is this your body your soul this is your experience you yeah whatever this

this mechanism which is in my in my experience because nothing else is in your experience just see this you can't experience what's here you can only experience what is here do you find that that's kind of contradictory in some ways to your existence because you're what you're doing is expressing your experience to other people no no no i am not enough no i see some experience what is that joe rogan experience oh okay yeah it's the name of the podcast okay so i'm never you know here and there when people ask questions i may say

something but as i said there's no philosophy there is no teaching there's no belief system just methods yes but you sit like this you breathe like this you do this this and this this will happen to you you experiment 40 days you do it if it works you keep it if it doesn't work throw it and move on but do you see that you've written all this down for people to learn from no you haven't why'd you write it down i have not written down anything what is in the books what is in the book

is more like a brochure a brochure it's a you know 300 page brochure just introducing you that's not we will never write down what you have to use that has to be transmitted right but you are writing your own personal experiences and people benefit from that greatly that is more for inspiration a book is for inspiration not for instruction and you don't think that there's any inspiration to be gleaned from other people's experiences there is of course see if you're looking for inspiration is one thing if you're looking for instruction don't look in the book

no no inspiration is different to get you fired up once you're fired up you want to know now don't go on reading books that will not get you anywhere action you have to just start delve deeper into yourself for that we can give you methods how to go deeper see when i like we were talking about the screwdriver yes how to do the thing you know with the right kind of tool if you use the wrong kind of tool i give you a spanner for the screw which is in the furniture it's not going to

help it's a tool but it's not going to help the right tool right that's all that is all my work is to give them the right tool i will not use the tool for them they must use it only for a few who completely give themselves for them i may also turn the screws for them but largely we just give you the screwdriver it's up to you but even when you were younger you didn't seek inspiration from some other people's experiences no somehow it didn't work like that for me for me everything was a question

mark i'm saying if i see a leaf it's a question if i see i look at my father it's a question if i look at my mother it's a question they were wonderful loving parents but i had questions about everything nothing negative just a question because question is a tool to dig deeper question is not a way of insulting somebody i ask you a question this is not to corner you to insult you to do something question is the only way to dig deeper isn't it like uh you know like people have their experiences their

opinions about everything in the universe for example before coming here a whole lot of people calling him sadhguru don't go on joe rogan show why are you going there guru you know what he is i said whatever he is let me go and find out what the hell he is why are you telling me who he is all right well no no he thinks this he thinks that well if he thinks i'm a chimpanzee i will prove i'm a very good one i'm saying i've worked in prisons you know like we have a program called

uh inner freedom for imprisonment both in united states we worked but then we stepped out of us in india our programs are mandatory in all the south indian prisons really yeah and uh i've worked with really hardcore hardcore you know criminals who have been convicted for murder and more they have done terrible things but when they are with me they are such wonderful guys lively and fantastic guys but if you meet them when they are angry or dissatisfied they may be terrible if you meet them when they are happy and joyful they are fantastic people

so i'm saying every human being has opinions about everything this is one thing i've done in my life is people who are with me for 25 30 40 years with me right next to me i have it's very difficult for people to understand this i am not formed a single opinion about them every day i look at them fresh this is very important yes so when i sit here i look at you fresh it doesn't matter what you have done because what you are going to be tomorrow is what is important isn't it when you're

experiencing these prisoners do you think that that's part of the problem with having had a horrible past you know having been a criminal having been a murderer is that you can never really get past those experiences in a lot of people's eyes they don't experience you fresh see it see the societies are made in a certain way where unfortunately certain people can't fit in all right not necessarily because it's in a very american thing there's a good guy there's a bad guy i don't look at life like that it is just that in a given

moment if somebody makes one wrong judgment he utters something or he does something in that moment that may end up in the prison i've met hundreds of them thousands of them yeah most of them are absolutely wonderful guys there are a few who are mentally pathologically somewhere else that's different right but rest of them it's a given moment they make wrong judgments because that's all they know at that given moment do you think that the practice of yoga can reform people oh yes of course i will tell you i will tell you this say uh

when i first went into the prison in baton rouge to teach don't mistake me and it was very difficult to get in i discovered that in the heart of coimbatore city there was a prison central prison so i said let me go and see who is inside i want to work with them about 28 years ago and then i found it took me over two years to get inside it's so difficult to get in you need qualifications you know i was not qualified it took all kinds of permissions to get inside because this was a

high security prison then once i got in everybody said all the prison officers who knew me they said sadhuru you're wasting your time here every sunday christian priests come all these guys do is mischief on hindu festivals hindu people come they do more mischief and muslims come more mischief other kinds of service organizations come more mischief is all you will get you'll just waste your time here please don't do this i said you just give me two hours so there were 12 wards in the acquirement of prison each with about 200 prisoners so i took

the long term prisoners one ward with 200 people so when i went there i they wanted to put them in the see normally prism is there they push them into one hole and so sit down here so the guru has come i said no just i want to meet them on the ground outside so they are all sitting there like this okay this guy was come you know they have a certain there's anger and angst against the society which has locked them up it's very difficult for people to understand what this is i'm not not

once i've gone into prison and come out without tears in my eyes because everything seems normal on the surface there is pain in the air just this is so important for a human being to be free you know yes just nothing else food is good they get food better than probably their homes everything is controlled they're all very fit actually much more fitter than the outside people but there is pain in the air just it's so painful so i went there and we played a game with them they were just surprised that i'm playing a

game with them we played dodgeball with the guys within about 10-15 minutes they forgot they're in a prison like little children they're screaming and yelling and playing like crazy and then i told them see i want to stay here for 10 days and work with you you won't believe 80 of them in two hours time they're all crying they say don't go you stay with us wow and then we started the program since then continuously last 27 years programs have been going on most of them are you know school dropouts they're not really very literate

and educated but they wrote thousands of poems one one guy who killed three people in the courtroom so he was uh in the courtroom in the courtroom he killed three people uh some vengeance issue you know so he's on the death row see prison is quite a normal society during the daytime it's evening six o'clock there they have to go inside and the doors are locked even if the medical emergency nobody can open those doors unless a magistrate gives permission the local officer cannot open the gate even if the guy is dying inside it cannot

be opened no matter what happens that's the law so he wrote a poem which stuck in my mind he said every day when the cell door closed i thought this is my grave but now i see it's become my bodhi tree and the gate when the door closes i close my eyes and i'm in a completely different space all together this is my freedom and now after after about six years he was executed wow and we also took local industry and promised them that you know when they come out there will be jobs for them

those who can come out after a few years because in india life term is 20 years not life life and in 20 years if there's good behavior 14 years they'll get a remission so many of them who have been there for murder in 14 years time they will come out so nobody gives them a job everywhere everybody looks at them suspiciously so we set up the local businesses to include them into their factories and businesses so that they're not going to commit murder every day it's just happened once in their lifetime so how how does

yoga reform these people this is all it is so tell me if you're feeling very happy right now will you go and beat up that guy jamie no even if i was mad even if he's somebody that you don't like no it's not him anybody oh anybody when you are joyful will you go and simply beat up that guy no no something nasty happening within you anger angst frustration something that's when you do ugly things isn't it yeah this is true for every human being yeah sure so you you just label somebody as a criminal

what you need to understand is this a deep-rooted unhappiness or frustration or something that's built up because of social reasons or parental reasons or genetic reasons there's so many okay not one aspect somewhere this life is unhappy frustrated angry now it wants to do something unpleasant if this life is feeling very pleasant why will it do unpleasant things so this is all we have focused too much in this world on trying to produce good human beings good human beings have uh caused terrible things people who think they are good they have done the worst possible

things right thinking they are good but if we focus on creating joyful and sensible human beings a whole lot of trouble will go away in the world this is what yoga is about that you're pleasant within yourself when you are feeling pleasant you do pleasant things naturally yeah so you create this environment where people learn to be pleasant or you help them because it's not an environment it is you understand human experiences coming from within me see right now let's say we are working together and i'm oppressive whatever and you think you're unhappy because of

me but if you realize see my unhappiness is my doing you will undo it isn't it you think your unhappiness is because of me it goes on and on because it's under my control now right the day you realize my unhappiness the source of my unhappiness unhappiness is me not somebody else and you take charge of that aspect there is there is a method to do that once you do that you are happy once you are happy by your own nature then you will do what is most needed because once you are very happy you

have no pursuit of happiness your life is an expression of joy not in pursuit of happiness this is a shift that needs to happen in the world right now people are in pursuit of happiness if your life becomes an expression of your joy rather than being pursuit of happiness you will start stop squeezing the world the way you're squeezing it this soil this environment these problems everything is in pursuit of human happiness and well-being do you think that the physical practice of yoga meaning the exercise aspect of it alleviates tension and allows people to relax

enough to look at their life in a different way if they do it properly yes when there's when i say properly see people are trying to do it like an aerobic exercise no we teach what is called as classical yoga you don't have to do all these very difficult postures and all that most yogis master only one posture people don't know this in this country only one like what posture anything they will choose one posture and they will just master that so actually in the you know the traditionally what yoga says is if you master

one posture that means generally two hours 40 minutes if you can sit one way without any sense of discomfort irritation agitation nothing in your system this is your posture you just master that one posture then the rest of the yoga is internal physical body is only that much so most yogis just have one thing that they do and yes and they can do it for hours yes if they can if you can sit here see what it means is your body is not in the way um your body's not in the way yeah see right

now you want to be happy but your thought is in the way your emotion is in the way your body is in the way so once you put the body away you must understand in yoga there is no such thing as mind there is physical body there is mental body if your body is not in the way suddenly you discover that even your mind is not in the way how do you think they figured this out this is getting back to this you kind of went around that but this this happened over 15 000 years

ago the first yogi he's referred to as the aadhi yogi today to honor him we have set up a 112 feet tall bust of adi yogi in india you must look him up 112. you can look him up what part of india is in southern india in coimbatore in tamil nadu so this is 112 feet because he gave 112 methods as to how so this is what to say this is a thousand years ago i figured this out over 15 000 years ago we are saying this over 15 000 years ago because of they talked

about certain celestial happenings those happenings have been confirmed today as well over 15 000 years ago and we have iconographic proof of something like twelve thousand four hundred years yeah that's our thing wow 112 feet tall great hair that's a crazy statue yeah this was designed this is this was designed by me and built by all volunteers inside the uh center really yeah so is that a building so can you go inside of that you can go inside but there's no building inside because it's metal it gets very hot inside oh wow that's beautiful the

idea was when i designed this it took me two and a half years to design this face you're not seeing the face very clearly let's see if you can get a picture where the face is clear it's very amazing yeah so i wanted intoxication stillness and exuberance on one face so it took me two and a half years to design this space what do you think it has these qualities i think you nailed it and um how was this constructed this is all metal it's all metal how did how was it made so uh we

made this uh it took us uh some 680 tons of steel now we're doing another one near bangalore the same one but now we're doing it with almost uh 170 tons less because now we've figured out the design much better oh wow that's incredible though i mean it really is gorgeous and that's all is it welded together like how is it see uh see uh you can see some patchwork uh here you're not seeing it but actually the metal pieces are all about this much size uh we could have removed that we could have you

know braced that and removed that but when i looked at it the roughness of it looked better than a smooth face so i just left it as it is so there are patches so you can see the you can see the construction material not really that visible but you can see for an observer you can see that which gives a kind of roughness to the statue not very smooth so this yogi that devised these 100 so when he came he appeared somewhere in himalayas and people saw that he was dancing wildly in ecstatic states completely

oblivious to everything around him or he sat still for days on end weeks on end he just sat still unmoving so initially lot of thousands of people gathered some miracle is happening but slowly because he didn't perform any miracles no fireworks happened people got bored and they left only seven disciples hung on because they saw the greatest miracle is the man is not getting up for food water toilet nothing that means he's beyond the physical nature he's just sat there for months on end sometimes the only sign of his aliveness was tears of ecstasy were

dribbled dribbling down his cheeks that was the only sign of life otherwise he looked like he's dead so when he came to his some moments when he came to his consciousness they pleaded they wanted to learn what is it that is happening to you so he tried to be dismissive he didn't want to be in touch with them but when they hung on when they persisted then he put them on a preparatory kind of work they went through the preparatory work and then he started expounding for many years what is the science of how human

mechanism is made and you won't believe this 150 years ago charles darwin talked about evolutionary process over fifteen thousand years ago he spoke something which is parallel to darwin's theory of evolution even today every indian knows about indian person knows about this there are ten authors means not the movie that you saw author means a manifestation so 10 authors our first author is called matyawathar which means the life was in the form of fish or it was water it was in the water the second one is kurmatar which means it's a turtle that means it

became an amphibious life the third one is a wild war it's called it you know other small things happen but the mammals came then the next one is called narasimha who is half man half animal next one is a dwarfed man woman arthur the next one is a full grown man but a volatile man he's so angry and so crazy or fighting man that always he went about chopping off people do he got so angry and he lopped off his own mother's head so the next one is a peaceful man he's a rama he's a

peaceful gentleman the next one is a loving man krishna the next one is a buddha who is a meditative man the next one the tenth one is supposed to be the mystical man these are not individual people to be seen these this is the evolution of life on the planet if you look at darwin's theory of evolution somewhere it runs parallel to this from waterborne life to amphibious life to this way half man half animal dwarfed man like this it has grown so he talked about this and he said see if you want to evolve

further then something in relationship to the earth and the sun must change otherwise physiologically you're not going to evolve further but you have a consciousness with which you can transform yourself absolutely and become completely different from what you are right now right now you are available to all the forces of nature right now in many ways you're enslaved to what's happening around you you can rise above this and evolve consciously but physiological evolution has come to a standstill because planetary moment and who you are right now the the planet and the solar system is functioning

like a potter's wheel to make this happen this life like a potter's wheel you know potter's wheel oh potter's wheel yeah okay it's functioning like that it's got you to this place so people ask can we can we develop more intelligence can we become bigger than this he says no physiologically your evolution has come to a place unless there is some serious change in the relationship between the planet and the sun that will not happen but consciously you can evolve so then he propounds 112 ways as to how you can do it 112 distinct ways

how you can do it so that is how yoga started who do you think this person was he's adi yogi they called him because he never introduced himself they called him yogi because he was the first one they called him adi yogi adioji means the first yogi and he is also referred to as shiva shiva means one who is not that which is not in the sense see today modern science is speaking in these terms in an atom for example over 99 percent of it is empty space if there is proton neutron electron all that

covers less than one percent 99 is empty space so it is in the cosmos 99 is empty space see right now you look at this ceiling and you think it's full of star-like lights but actually there's more empty space than lights isn't it but because our visual apparatus are in a certain certain way designed in a certain way it gives more prominence to light because that's what we see more clearly so he said everything is like this so if you transcend your physical nature you become a shiva that means you are nothing but nothing is

the most powerful dimension of the existence because it is in the lap of the nothingness everything is happening what you call as everything is just one percent do you think this was a real person like a real individual or do you think it's representative of the the learning of yoga and the best way to establish it to express it was to make it a person it's a real person because the places where he came what he spoke everything is recorded in history largely by lore today people are trying to write it down in books because

in india we don't believe in scholarship we believe in experience in our experience so it's always transmitted as a oral tradition for a long time these days people are writing down in many ways it was a real person because spectacular human being if they could do absolutely see when he came down south in southern india at that time people were way shorter than the northern people so they say he was twice the height of an average south indian woman so they say he must have been because an average south indian woman tribal woman were like

four four and a half feet so he must have been seven or eight feet tall that people said he was twice that and they say when he stood next to your horse he was as tall as the horse's ears but do you think these are exaggerations exaggerations could be there but uh because his physical size doesn't mean anything for his yoga right so there's no point exaggerating that aspect i'm saying right see if he was a warrior somebody may exaggerate him but for a yogi what is the point making him a big guy physically to

make him divine so that is the whole thing see in india the indian culture has only spiritual paths there is no real religion per se because a religion needs a belief all right spiritual process needs a quest a seeking if you are on the spiritual path we call you a seeker if you ascribe to your religion we call you a believer all right belief means something that you do not know because an authority speaks you believe that it could be your father who says that this is the truth and you believe him as a child

then it may be a priest then it may be somebody bigger or it may be in a book you believe it because it comes from an authority but the nature of that culture the eastern culture sees there is no authority for us truth is the only authority authority is never the truth so that is the essence of eastern mysticism and eastern spirituality that it is you're always a seeker never a believer so you think that yoga just emanated from this one incredibly unique human being that was larger than everybody else that had supernatural abilities that

existed fifteen thousand years ago no see uh now you're making a superhuman being out of somebody not making an eight foot tall person no you're daisy and without drinking have been see there have been people like that all right in every culture physically large people but his physical size has nothing to do with his capabilities right because the capabilities are super physical too aren't they no so this is what it's about yoga is not about being superhuman yoga is about realizing being human is super that's what is important so that's the whole thing that he's

saying how being human is so super if you explore your humanity to its fullest you will become so fantastic being a human being itself is a fantastic feat you don't have to act like a superhuman being he did not perform any miracles he did not do anything he just taught them how to be beyond the limitations of one's physical and psychological structures that's all do you think if this person didn't exist that yoga still would have been invented without him of course somebody else would have after that many many yogis have come but he is

the maybe even before they were people but they did not speak or they did not gather disciples who would take so he sent these seven disciples in seven different directions one was sent to southern india who is today we hold him as the father of southern mysticism he's a gestimuni who came down south and he did maximum amount of work there every human habitation he touched at that time and brought spiritual process as a living practice not as a separate practice just the way you said that just the way you do things just the way

you address each other was made into a spiritual process see right now in india if people go to the temple and whatever their favorite deity if they worship they will stand like this if anybody comes also they'll stand like this if a dog comes also they'll do this if they see a rock also they'll do this they see a tree also they'll do this for the people just listening you're holding your hands together in prayer it is not in prayer well this way whatever you're doing with your hands yes this is done to everybody yes

all right okay so because spiritual process is not alien to the life that you live the way you live has to become spiritual it's not that you have a spiritual practice and you have a separate life it is the same thing you you integrate it into your life so he did that another one stayed with him another one came to the northern part of india another one went to central asia there are you know there are certain footprints office another one went to north africa another went to south asia another when another one came to

south america wherever these yogis went suddenly those cultures where they went saw a sudden upsurge in the knowledge of geometry wherever you see extraordinary sense of geometry which is not in line with the tribal existence that they had that means a yogi came there sense of geometry meaning like the structures that they built the structures that they build the artifacts they created uh the way they arranged things around themselves suddenly they had a different sense of geometry because yoga is essentially a cosmic geometry cosmic geometry in to align yourself in line with the cosmos so

that it reverberates as the same which brings us to ufos [Laughter] say uh there's there is some substance and a lot of imagination with this ufo business because we are always thinking life you know like all this i'm i'm saying this not with any uh there are many people who could have experienced something who could have seen something i'm saying generally the popular imagination of a ufo craft will come and land somebody will come out of it so you're thinking like this because that's how human beings operate all right that we will go land somewhere

then the door opens we come out how do you know that's how they also do it that's not how it is i have living experience with certain extraterrestrial life forms you do yes there are a whole lot of videos which i've spoken about i have a reputation of being very logically correct now i don't want to lose it by talking about it to everybody but in exclusive groups have spoken in detail i've made other people experience these things very profound experiences of life which is not of this planet but it's not like a craft will

land they'll open the door they'll come out this is all your own thing you parked the car you opened the door you locked the door you came out this is your thinking all right it is not necessary other life should operate the way we operate which is nothing like where we are it's something totally different so people have seen things here and there some of it could be mistakes some of it could be exaggeration some of it could be just total lies but definitely some people have seen some things some people have experienced something there's

no denying everybody will not be lying there is no denying it is there but we are thinking just the way we are they will also be all we can think is a little bigger ears little bigger eyes maybe three eyes instead of two this is just exaggeration of what we already know leave the imaginations aside is there life beyond us it would be very pompous to believe that in such a vast cosmos we are the only evolved life on the planet in the universe is itself a very pompous belief system definitely there is more life

and you know it is it is done we have done things with it in the past we've done things with it yes we have done some experiments with such life we have made people experience this very strongly when you say we what do you mean uh we as a group we have done certain things you yes so how ah don't go into it why not i have a repetition of being very logically correct well if you're logically correct about extraterrestrials wouldn't that be beneficial to people that are hearing this no why there are see our

logic is related to our existence the way we are made right the way the existence is made doesn't fit into our logic this is the biggest mistake that modern societies are making you're trying to fit the existence into your logic no your logic has place in the existence existence cannot be you can't fit it into your logic because your logic functions between binaries of two you and me have to be there for logic the whole spiritual experience itself is not logically correct because the experience of life is beyond two there are no binaries in spiritual

process when i use the word spiritual i'm not using the word spiritual the way religions are using they're talking about a spirit which goes and comes and whatever not in that sense if you experience your life beyond your physiological and psychological construct then you're spiritual so you mentioned it which is already the most difficult thing to do now to talk about it you feel like would somehow or another discredit you i don't understand that because it's just because there is only thus far that your language goes when you speak something human languages i have to

be logically correct otherwise you cannot speak but how are you experiencing this thing can you just tell me how you're experiencing these things see uh in certain spaces uh there are very strong presence which is when you feel the texture of that life you know it is not like anything that we know here obviously it doesn't belong here it is it has a different source than the life that we are when i say the life that we are see this is the yogic sciences this will confuse people if you go that far because people are

thinking yo guys for backache you guys for health you guys for slimming down we've already established that case so yoga means you know the texture of life unity that is one thing i'm talking about the texture of this life if you know the texture of this life okay so people ask me how do you know all this i don't know anything there's only one thing i know i know the nature of this piece of life from its origin to its ultimate because every other life is in some way built the same way people think i

know every other life no i know only this life but fortunately every other life from a single microbe to a human being to every other creature in some way is a reflection of this life because it's all connected even the evolutionary sciences are saying the same thing even the religions are saying the same thing all right so in that sense i know the texture of this life and that life and every other life here but there are some lives which don't have the texture which are totally different and how are you experiencing these lives you

want me to say something ridiculous no no i don't think it's ridiculous at all no no if i say something which is illogical it'll seem ridiculous i don't think it's illogical it will be logical because it will not fit into the framework of human logic well the framework of human logic is based on our own experience and interpretation of the life that we lived it doesn't mean that other people haven't experienced or interpreted something that is beyond our comprehension because we haven't experienced it personally see yeah that's logical we we have done experiments where we

attracted a certain certain life which is not which doesn't have any texture of earthly life and how do you conduct these experiments we i used certain people to invite them into their bodies and what happened there is totally unbelievable for people because uh i'll tell you a simple thing i invited a certain life into one person's body i kept uh the weather was already like nearly zero kind of sub-zero kind of atmosphere it was in tibet and i kept a bowl of water about three inches above the head and when this life entered and i

tried to hold it within that body you won't believe this bowl which is three inches the person is lying down on the ground on wet soil you know they just put a bed sheet and this person is lying down this bowl is about three inches above the head on the ground the water started boiling there are over 200 people watching the water boiling all right because it created so much heat then i let it go because it could burn up the person you know shoes out that person in some way because the moment it felt

trapped it created such heat the water is actually boiling three inches away did you film this huh from a distance they filmed it bad filming you know they were not really looking for it but it is there and how many times has this happened we did this about two times we did it properly another time we did a mild one after that i thought i will go spend time there which has never happened and above all it doesn't serve any purpose like that you know it doesn't serve a purpose it doesn't it is it is

more to know not it doesn't serve a purpose as to how you can use because it could be uh i i have to admit i was stepping into an area where i don't know a damn thing okay right so you could make a mistake and take somebody's life or your own life or something like that so whatever these life forms are that you're experiencing they they're only you can only experience them through another person's body no no no not like that only because i experienced i wanted to demonstrate it to the people who are watching

and how did you know that it was a thing like how did you know that you could experience it that way and it exhibit it put it on display for the people that are watching well see your whole perception right now for most human being is limited to five senses seeing hearing smelling tasting touching this is how you know the world if something has no smell no taste no touch you won't know but there could be an infinite number of yeses that we're not aware of yes that we don't possess so these things are faced

in many places but there are certain places where there is a unreasonable level of concentration so one place is this kailash monastero region in tibet in last two years we haven't been not been able to go because the chinese have closed this because of this corona virus or whatever probably next year it will open up last year we went we viewed kalash and monastery over from eight to ten kilometers away at the nepali border we went there and even from a distance what it does to people is unbelievable so it's just one concentrated hot spot

yeah of activity yes and that too it's like clockwork exactly at 2 30 in the morning it starts boom activity like that for about one and a half hours one hour 40 minutes like that after that it just goes down it's almost like a busy airport boom boom boom boom things are happening but not like crafts or anything just bunches of lives just up and down things happening for about one and a half to two hours max do you think they're extraterrestrial do you think they're inter-dimensional do you think they're spirits they're not spirits no

no anything that's related to the planet we will just know immediately it's not uh it's something that's from somewhere else it is definitely from somewhere else and uh you know like uh these are crazy things man why do you want me to speak about this no i don't think they're that crazy i think they're only crazy because we haven't experienced them if you try to explain many of the things that we take for granted because they're normal to someone who's never experienced in them like if you try to experience fire to someone who had never

experienced fire it would be the craziest idea that you could run across them that there's a thing that's not alive but it consumes things and it could kill all life on this planet but it could also serve a purpose to heat your home and cook your food this is what i'm saying in in yoga there are three types of fires within you it is jitter agni chittagni bhutakni jataragni means the fire of stomach and the reproductive aspect these two fires which keep your survival going chitagni is the fire of your intelligence which propels a human

being to do so many things bhutani is the fire of five elements of earth earth water air fire and space these five elements which is the composite of what everything physical is so these three fires only if you keep them in control right now uh you know for example we're talking about the soil these whole civilizations have been built because of our gastronomic fire and our intellectual fire the same gastronomic fire if it's unquenched it can burn the world down right now u.n agencies are predicting that by 2035 there will be dozens of civil wars

across the world because food shortages will cause that because this fire is not met means people will set fire to each other how did you know that these entities or whatever these things are that you experienced existed so i was talking about five senses see for your sense organs to experience experience anything you need to contrast only because there's light you know darkness if it's all dark you wouldn't know what is darkness what is light only because there is night you know what's a day only because there's a woman you know what's a man everything

is by polarities if there are no polarities your eyes your ears your anything your five senses cannot function so it is based on the information that these five senses has given you that your whole logical intellect has developed without this information this will not do anything it's only from the data that you got by seeing hearing smelling tasting and touching your intellect is first functioning in a certain way so right now you can see this part of my hand but you can't see this spot if you see this part you can't see this part this

is the nature of your vision isn't it now if you hear that sound at that moment you don't hear the silence so everything is like this you see only a part of it through sense perception because of this your logic is all in pieces so with logically if you arrive at any conclusion it is like i gave you a million piece jigsaw you found five pieces you put them together and say oh this is a bear this is a bear oh no you're in texas this is a horse you said because with five pieces you

arrived at some conclusion this is what intellect means this is why in yogic sciences we don't attach any significance to what you think and feel because out of a million piece jigsaw you found a few pieces and you're making your conclusions it's not of any relevance for one who wants to know it may be of relevance who one wants to survive it may be of relevance for one who wants to win a race with somebody else okay your heart you figured out the horse better than somebody else you win the race but it's not of

any relevance for someone who wants to know for a seeker it's of no relevance so how to go beyond sense perception how to know life beyond sense perception is the entire aspect of yoga because as long as sense perception is on you and me distinctly separate no way that is you this is me only if you go beyond sense perception we were doing this beyond your sensory limitations if you go something that not you becomes you right now with food it's happening something see when it's on your plate you call this my food when you

eat it you say it's me isn't it something that's not you became you so this is yoga that you understand the sense perception is dividing the world and this division is needed for your survival process but this division is no use for you to know life the way it is so the yogic sciences are focused on how to transcend the sensory perception how to suspend your senses and simply perceive life without the division if you do that everything that is here will be in some way known to you and there is so much here that

people don't see if you talk about it you will look like a mumbo-jumbo so you know which doctor so you don't talk about these things but how did you know that it was going to be in that area it's not that i knew it's in that area i had heard stories about that place but i thought i'll just go there one time just to see because it's a magnificent place by any standard it's a beautiful beautiful place so it's a little over uh the lake is around 4 400 feet above mean sea level the kalash

peak is almost 19 000 so once i went and the magnificent nature of that see the mountain is a place this is a yogic tradition that when a yogi gets to know certain things he knows he cannot share it his experience he cannot share it because nobody will understand it because it cannot be understood it can only be experienced so what he will do is he will store it in an energy form in a place where there is not too much food human footprint at the same time it's not completely inaccessible there are many places

like this in india there are places like that in other parts of the world also one fantastic place that you must visit is in united states is mato tipila where's that mato tipila is in wyoming wyoming near uh what rapid city huh you they call it the devil's tower you heard of that in many western movies tower is that from close encounters of the third kind yeah i don't know about that movie but in many western movies it's always there it just yeah that's close encounters of the third this is called mato tipila in that

steven spielberg movie that's a very significant place because that's where the aliens land oh is that so yeah so this is a powerful powerful space in america this is one space i found which is naturally tremendous and uh see this is kalash hmm wow uh it's a it is something else it's it is the greatest mystical library on the planet that place yes collage so what do you think is going on there huh what do you think is going on there it is why is it awkward one thing is himself was there he lived there

so he stored all that he knows there and many other yogis later on many buddhists teachers like padma shambhava and manjushri all these people and even the jain monks they all went and stored their energies there because the knowledge that they know they don't want it to be lost it can't be transmitted to people because you will not find a suitable people to do that so you place it somewhere where in future somebody who has the capability will access this i'll tell you one experience i'm going into the mumbo-jumbo world why man i don't think

it's mumbo jumbo see this happened i was uh this is what i'm just thinking the years i'm not good with years must be 10 10 11 years ago maybe 2008 or even before that i'm sorry 2003 or four i started running temperature i was in india no first i was in california i was in los angeles i started running temperature and i come to speak in the thai group you know there is an indian group entrepreneurs group and i spoke there and uh the president of the thai group invited me to their home again to

speak again to another exclusive group uh speaking there i'm really running very high temperature and i'm you know my clothes are all wet with sweat so one man raised his hand i thought he wants to ask a question i said fine he said you need to go to the emergency room right now i said yes i know but i'll finish this talk and go then i finished the talk and then i went to the hospital like i was running very high temperature so they gave me this that and they said this is some kind of

typhoid so i met one wonderful doctor who was a tropical medicine expert he said this is some strange kind of typhoid so he gave me a whole lot of antibiotics this that i took that and then i went to uk where i had a four day residential program all the four days i was running very high temperature but i finished that program in this 40 years i've never cancelled one program because i was not well i've never done that so i went back to india i had a television shoot i had to shoot 52 weeks

of material in about four to five days so from whole day i'm shooting and if i sit down for 30 40 minutes of shoot i'm like my whole cl all my clothes are wet which sweat i have to change my clothes because i'm sweating so much and then after shooting the whole day on the second or third day i came home and i was like feeling like my brains are getting fried up so hot then i took the thermometer and put it it said one not seven wow i thought oh man i'm killing myself right

now so with my entire my clothes everything i went and stood under the cold shower then i called the doctor and said you know i was reading one not seven i stood under the cold shower so this is the smartest thing you've done in your entire life if you had been in that for another few minutes you would have a stroke or you would have something for sure then they said it's some kind of what malaria and they gave me malarial medicine i had typhoid medicine then i got malaria medicine then they said three different

types of malaria that diagnosed in one month's time and they change the medication change the medication and then i went to australia i was running temperature i was in singapore i was running temperature i came to india for two days i was running temperature then i came back to united states so it was my daughter's vacation so i told her i'll take her to some lake house somebody had a friend of ours so i said i'll take her on the lake so i have a port you know ivy port running by now i have antibiotic

every day running for three four hours a day with iv put on i'm riding a boat and taking her around and everything going on wow by then i have done about 18 blood tests and about four mris all kinds of bizarre things they're saying and changing the prescription and giving me this medication that medication temperature didn't go down it just went on and on then i was in north carolina on this lake house around 2 a.m i knew that i was just kind of collapsing and i was kind of you know dropping off then i

i i called out and they called for an ambulance it came and they took me to a local hospital in cashiers in uh in carolina and these doctors looked at him this is they looked at all the blood tests this is too esoteric for us you better go to atlanta so i went to atlanta there they said it's best you go to some position in new york he's the best guy you must go there because by now almost seven weeks i've been running continuous temperature i've been traveling all over the world so i went to

new york and uh they said uh you know you must get admitted we'll check then i got admitted by then i can you know i'm having difficulty walking and just really go like become weak then uh and by then my lymph nodes have swollen up so badly excruciating pain so they said they may have to do surgery and they have to do a biopsy first and see what is it is it malignant or whatever then i'm in the hospital next day morning for the it's a general anesthesia they have a pre-check for anesthesia so in

that funny gown which is open on all sides you know i'm wearing that holding like this and trying to walk holding onto the wall i got into the elevator to go to another floor in between in one floor the lift stopped a chinese man got in so the doctor who was with me introduced he's the one who is going to do the surgery for you then the chinese doctor felt the lymph nodes like this and said it's very deep you must inform the family then i went for the test for the anesthetic tests then i

said i'm going home doctor said no satguru this is very dangerous you can't leave the hospital i said no i'm going i said i'll go i don't want to go through the surgery so i went back a friend had an apartment in manhattan area i just closed my eyes and sat for four days my temperature went down the swelling went down in 21 days i was in kalash tricked you know my muscle mass had gone down my legs had become like this always i've been walking trekking playing games i had some muscle not like you

but i have some muscle to keep me going but my muscle mass went down so much in these eight weeks i just shrank like that with great difficult difficulty i trekked there i could barely speak and i sat there for two hours i took one strand of what is there on that mountain you won't believe in two and a half hours i was almost 10 to 15 years younger than what i was at that moment people around me will vouch for it how suddenly i'm a different man after eight weeks of fever and all kinds

of treatments without knowing what it is so that is the power of that mountain it's not just to heal you of your health or something it is tremendous amount of everything that one can know in the universe is stored there in some way it is your ability to pull it out but you were you recovered in manhattan right yes what makes you think it's that mountain see uh i closed my eyes and i did what i have to do with my system which gave me a respite yes but still i was not fully there still

very weak and like that but i just bounced back in two and a half hours time what is it but i don't i don't understand what has to do with that mountain see this is what it is what you think is you is not just contained in the boundaries of this body if you are willing to open up that boundary the whole the whole existence is with you so you opened up your body after all those weeks and you don't think it has anything to do with the antibiotics you were taking or the antibiotics didn't

give me a respite at all but you never rested right i'm very restful even if i'm traveling but you were constantly working right you were explaining all the different things you were doing and then you were taxing yourself no i don't tax myself but that was taxing you were sweating through your clothes yes that's because the fever right but you and i'm saying this swelling which they said without looking inside they will do biopsy and most probably they'll do surgery along with that which was excruciating pain just went down but it went down after you

rested right not rested i sat with my eyes closed i didn't sleep i sat but you didn't do anything for four days uh if you want to explain this is why i said see i'm going into mumbo-jumbo no no i believe you i'm not i'm not i'm not quite i'm just i'm trying to piece together why i'm saying when doctors every every qualified doctor is saying that i'm in a state where you will have to inform the family because life situation life and death situation you don't recover just because four days you sit there with

eyes closed all right you don't think so no not because of rest do you think that there was something supernatural or something else see what is that i never use the word supernatural because everything is within the aspect of nature okay what would you use so uh which aspect of nature are you in right now that is the thing see one aspect of your nature is survival for example for every human being because of survival you try to build boundaries around yourself whether it's a national boundary or an individual boundary your house boundary or your

personal boundaries these all uh you know self-preservation boundaries right but there is also something within you which wants to expand which doesn't lack boundaries why people suffer the prison like that is just the boundaries nothing else wrong it's much bigger than your home the prison am i actually your kind of company i'm saying if you're in that kind of life it's your kind of company food is good you're far fitter then most people on the outside you don't have to do a job to get your food it's actually very good but lack of freedom kills

a man totally so i want to go back to the experiencing this these different life forms that you experienced you had heard that they existed in this place generally yes uh a lot of people who have been there have been talking about it but a lot of talk is of that nature see as i said i am a super skeptic i don't believe anything that anybody says you have to do nor do i disbelieve right somebody says something maybe it's true for them i will respect that but it's not that i have to believe it

unless it happens to me do you think that a certain state of mind or being is what puts you in touch with these other life forms no let's see these two things you're saying in the same context and that's how normally it's used in the society people think a state of mind is everything right see mind itself is a very limited process in the sense see right now generally in the western world you think mind means your intellect thought process right your thought process cannot generate anything other than the data that you already possess correct

can you think of something that's not at all there in your data the imagination no your own your imagination is just an exaggeration of the data that you already have okay if there is no data you cannot imagine so this thing that you experienced was beyond imagination i'll come to that okay see right now when you say state of mind you're talking about whether you're equanimous or you're disturbed or you're happy unhappy or you you're able to penetrate something you're not able to penetrate something in terms of intellect but all these are dependent because the

it is like your computer if you remove the data it's just a blank screen so if i remove all the memory that you have you're just a blank screen isn't it right so right now your ideas of right and wrong your ideas of your nationality your ideas of your race your ideas of your religion your ideas of your family your ideas of yourself is all in the memory bank if we just take out that memory chip nothing nothing so your whole intellect is functioning from that because you can see because you cannot see the end

of the universe if you could see the end of the universe you would say it's just me here nobody else because you cannot see because you're here maybe there are people there this is an imagination all right but imagination is rooted in the data that you already have you cannot imagine something new you use two words together state of mind and state of being being means this see right now you have a body but when you were born you were only this much now you became this much how the food that you've eaten isn't it

now you have a mind when you were born you were just like a little baby suddenly you become all this how whole accumulation of impressions isn't it through five senses what you have seen what you have heard what you've smelled what you've tasted what you've touched from this you've formed a whole lot of information with which you have a mind of your own how rich that information is makes you look that smart in a given society all right if you're well informed just because you have a good data chip people think you're smart not necessarily

so essentially smart means always in comparison to somebody else so these days everybody's saying they have a smartphone see when would you call somebody smart only if they're smarter than you so if you say smartphone obviously it is smarter than you simply because it has more memory than you isn't it and it has more multiple functionality than you more access to information yes so that is intellect but intellect is not everything when it comes to intellect would you like your intellect sharp or blunt tell me i'm going to bless you right now you're going to

bless me do you want it sharp or blunt i'm going to go with sharp sounds yes so that means your intellect is a cutting instrument it's like a knife the more sharper it is the better it is so with sharp knife you can dissect and know things so i want to know joe rogan right now shall i dissect him will i know him if i open him up will i know him that way no you're going to have to experience that's it so dissection may show me the how your heart is how your liver is

how your kidney is but you won't meet joe out there all right so by dissection you can know physical things by dissection you cannot know anything which is beyond that all right the life in you cannot be perceived by dissection of any kind so now with an intellect which is a knife with this knife if you try to stitch your clothes then you will be like today's fashion everybody's in tatters so to stitch you need a different kind of tool to cut you need a different kind of tool right now with the cutting tool people

are trying to do everything you know this happened to me at that time i was crisscrossing india on my motorcycle when i was just in my early 20s and whole night i've been riding early morning i come into a small place where there is a street side tea shop where i had sat down and had a tea and those days this motorcycle chain you know if you ride 1 600 700 kilometers really fast it becomes slack you have to remove one link today modern motorcycles are made differently it's very different those days like around 700

800 kilometers means it'll become slack so almost every day i have to remove one link from the chain and i have a spare chain with me always because it will go off on a in a day at those days i'm riding 1000 to 1200 kilometers per day in those days when roads were not great and our motorcycle was just 250 cc single stroke engine all right i'm sorry two-stroke engine so uh i having my tea it's not very difficult to fix the chain but it's messy your hands get dirty you need soap and everything i

was having tea and i saw the opposite there was a small shack he had mubarak mechanical works he'd written uh it's traveling young youth uh i told him hey come here man can you fix my chain he said oh yes sir i can fix it i said okay then he came out with a chisel and hammer i said wait i got up and went and i looked into a shack he doesn't have any other tools only thing he has is chisel and hammer he can fix it but after that nobody can fix anything on that

motorcycle so right now most human beings are like this they are trying to fix everything with their intellect which is a cutting instrument with a cutting instrument if you try to fix everything all that you will have is a bruised life that's what they're having if their failures in their life they're suffering if they're successful they're dying of tension if they're poor they're suffering their poverty if they become rich they suffer their taxes if they're not married they suffer that if they're married oh don't tell me all the things that they do everything because you're

trying to handle everything with a cutting instrument naturally you're fully bruised and bleeding by the time you're done with life so the perception of life is beyond intellect intellect is not perception intellect is coming out with permutations and combinations of information that you already possess so you experiencing whatever this life form was is beyond words because it's beyond anything see because words are a product of our intellect language is a product of our intellect that's why i said if i speak i'll end up speaking illogically yes because intellectually you cannot think illogically you if you

think you can only think logically somebody may not agree with your logic but you can only think logically within yourself isn't it nobody thinks illogically you may think the other guy is illogical but he thinks you're illogical but within your mind you're never illogical isn't it right because the thought process is like that that is the nature of the intellect you have to add two plus two is four maybe you added two plus two is five you got it wrong but you're still thinking it's logically correct isn't it right so this experience that you had

whatever it is we don't have the tools to express it in a way that a person who has an experience you have you have the equipment you not even open the wraps everybody has it there's nobody who doesn't have you have to experience it to know what this equipment is no it's just that see where people are invested that's what they know isn't it yes so that's all it is they're invested largely most people are invested in trying to be better than somebody else because right from their kindergarten school their parents their teachers everybody told

you you must be number one that means you always enjoy other people's failures when you enjoy other people's failures i don't call this joy i call this sickness that is a sickness and that's a sickness that a lot of people possess the enjoying other people's failure sickness yep yeah see why is it that you enjoy a billion dollars i'm a billionaire somebody enjoys it why because nobody else has it around you right if let's say i'll somebody who's aspiring for a billion dollars i'll give you a billion dollars but for everybody else in the town

i'll give them 10 billion dollars will you be happy you will not be you'll be very unhappy with your billion dollars because your whole problem is you want to be on top of everybody yes yeah why why do people have that what do you think do you think that's what is that left over from see this is because as i said your whole life is limited to your sense perception sense organs can only perceive in comparison see right now you're six feet tall you're not i'm just telling you first sometimes let's assume you're six feet

tall now you stand like a tall man you walk like a tall man you feel like a tall man you think like a tall man you went to another society where everybody is eight feet tall suddenly you walk like a short man think like a short man feel like a short man so your entire perception is always in comparison when it comes to sense organs this is what yoga is about going beyond the senses because this thing that you perceive in comparison is only useful for survival process it is not good enough to know the

nature of the universe these are all only these are all realms which only interest people who just want to know there may be no use but you want to know so there is that aspect in every human being whether it you have kept it alive or you kept it buried is a question that's that old quote comparison is the thief of joy i think is that thoreau no is it yeah oh that's right i thought maybe thomas jefferson originally attributed to roosevelt um listen man i really enjoyed talking to you thank you very much for

being here yeah thank you for having me but uh you know the soil is a serious situation it's necessary situation and from march 21st i'm riding 30 000 kilometers i know i'm 65. what i see is in the last two years i've been talking to so many people influencers scientists politicians leaders everybody knows there's a serious problem and everybody knows what is the solution also generally but i think everybody was waiting for some idiot to come and build the cat so here i am okay so next 100 days from march 21st 100 days we want

the whole world to talk about soil because i am addressing the cop 15 where 170 nation representatives are there where we are presenting these documents before that we want to raise three to four billion people to talk about soil once sixty percent of the electorate has spoken in the world that soil is a deep concern to them believe me every government will get active on the job because in a democracy the only currency is numbers where can someone follow this online do you have a website yes uh safesoil.org is there safesoil.org yes uh there's an

instagram and twitter and facebook and you have an instagram as well yes we have what is called as you can become an earth buddy if you become an earth buddy every day you spend five to ten minutes to enhance the message to reach as many people as possible so people must understand this people are everywhere i go people should guru the social media is stressing me attention this is rubbish see many many great beings have come in this world but when they spoke hardly 10 people could hear them this is the first time you can

sit here and talk to the entire world when you have such tools in your hands if you do not transform humanity if you do not do what is absolutely needed for this generation it shows that we don't care enough i don't want to be that one who didn't care enough to do something which matters because right now we are consuming the soil and food that belongs to an unborn child this is a crime against humanity i hear you let's make it happen let's make it happen i will help elevate your signal and uh thank you

very much i really really enjoyed this you gave me a lot to think about i'm gonna i'm gonna continue to think about those thank you thank you [Music]