I recently learned how big of a scam taxes in America are not the actual tax rate but how we actually pay our taxes all of this in countries like the Netherlands or Japan or New Zealand none of this exists like if you search how to pay your taxes in Estonia you get a video that is less than 3 minutes long should be all fine so let's confirm submit what how does this exist these are places where the government operates a free fre free internet portal where the citizens can pay their taxes meanwhile here in the
United States filing taxes has two huge problems it's too complicated and it's too expensive the majority of us taxpayers have to pay a private company to help us pay our taxes to the government collectively we spend billions of dollars every year doing this we spend billions of our precious Spring hours tracking down documents scanning crinkled faded receipts and just hoping that this little green number goes up right now the tax code is so complicated so complex it is not working for anybody oh and we also pay emotionally we worry we wonder if we're doing it
right and most of us have wondered what happens if we do it wrong so why is it that a bunch of other countries have it easy whereas we get the expensive stressful time eroding version of pain taxes to understand this absurdity I teamed up once again with the times editorial board writer B appleb okay let's do this paying taxes in America is tense it's scary but the process of doing it doesn't need to be B has been reporting on economic and tax policy in America for a very long time so let me show you how
paying taxes in America has become the biggest scam you've never heard about and how some lawmakers are trying to change it one of the most unpleasant Facts of Life you may be wondering who got all this money why we have A10 billion year plus business in helping people do what the government should be helping them do instead walk me through the history of all the attempts to make a government run portal to pay taxes so in the before times it was a thick book you picked up a copy maybe at the local library and you
worked through these complicated worksheets either with the help of an accountant or in their dining rooms and you eventually arrived at a bottom line calculation of what you owed or what the government owed to you and put it in the mail and then Ronald Reagan gives a public address we envision a system where more than half of us would not even have to fill out a return we call it the return-free system in which he says we are going to deliver to Americans an easy way to file taxes we're going to move from this era
of of long forms and short forms to an Era of no forms the government is going to be the solution to your problem Reagan was serious about this in 1987 78,000 Americans filed their taxes using cuttingedge technology these primitive modems and these old machines called like the zylog system and the Metron and it was a hopeful experiment and what could have saved us so much pain and then you know his successors basically continued to make this promise for the next couple of decades Bill Clinton makes it George Bush goes out when I took my job
18 months ago virtually every other major country in the world had the ability for citizens to go online and freely file their taxes we didn't and then Barack Obama when he's campaigning for president in in 2007 he goes ahead and he makes the same promise we'll make it easier quicker and less expensive for you to file a return so that April 15th is not a date that has approached with Dread every year and now we have the Biden Administration making that same promise once more this story really begins during World War II when the United
States needed a lot more money all of a sudden to conduct this war and so it needed to change the way that it collected taxes and The Innovation that the government came up with is it said we're going to get employers to tell us how much they are paying their their workers so because your employer takes money out and pays taxes for you at the end of the year the government already knows how much money you've made they know how much you've paid in taxes and thus how much they owe you or you owe them
it's a great system they don't know everything about your finances if you have complicated stuff like medical bills or Investments but for a lot of Americans taxes could be done in 15 minutes or 20 minutes the reason why tax day is a breeze in places like the Netherlands or Japan is because that's the day when the government just sends you a pre-populated form you can either approve it or you can amend it if you think you qualify for some credit or write off or if you think they did the math wrong but if you approve
it you're done in just a few minutes and your refund is on its way but here in the US they don't tell us the numbers even though they already know them and they don't even give us a platform to file our taxes on so taxpayers are left with two Dreadful choices they either pay a private company to do taxes for them or they do it on their own and here's what that looks like a high stakes honesty test one that is horribly confusing Where Your Children Are actually called dependents and where your total income is
actually determined by adding lines 1 Z 2 4 6 and 8 I mean it's not that complicated just get a hold of this3 page instruction booklet on how to file your taxes so if presidents from both sides of the a have been making an effort to do this why has it failed I mean the one word answer is into a Turbo Tax there is a company that dominates the tax preparation industry in the United States it makes billions of dollars by charging Americans to help them complete their taxes makes a product called Turbo Tax which
for most Americans is you know practically synonymous with doing your taxes and it has made an industry out of something that ought to be a public service it's no surprise to me that Turbo Tax cropped up as a solution to this problem and so this private company comes along and says we'll help you we have a software product that will make your life easier and it did it made millions of Americans lives easier into it Turbo Tax 100% expert guaranteed what happens next is the story of how we almost had what they have in other
countries a free and easy way to file our taxes and it was almost given to us by George W bush morning I think the early 2000s were the moment when we came closest to having a public filing system so it's the early 2000s and the government is making this big effort to put more services online it's a pleasure to be here to talk about the E government initiative a number of other countries around the world were beginning to successfully move their tax filing systems onto the internet states were beginning to move tax filing onto the
internet there was a huge demand for it you had a republican Administration backing the idea the Bush Administration tells into it and the other tax prep companies to quote get another line of work like you're going out of business what is their response the company sounds the alarms you know all handson deck moment they recognize this is an existential threat to what is an increasingly profitable business and they do everything that they can to to prevent it they engage a very successful Washington lobbyist who among other things is fond of comparing himself to Darth Vader
and they do something very clever they say to the government we'll construct a free filing portal and you can stay out of this business this lobbying effort worked and the Bush Administration agreed to not make a tax filing portal and in return into it and other tax prep companies agreed to create a version of their software that would be available for free to lower income Americans so it's the early 2000s and you've got regular Turbo Tax which people have to pay for but now you have this free version of Turbo Tax that Inuit was providing
much to in shagrin Americans started catching on that there was a free version of their software and they started using it Millions of them started using it and this is where the real Shenanigans start in Earnest it seems like a good deal in terms of like well if the tech company will do this and will provide it for free then what's what's the problem the problem is that the tech companies had absolutely no interest in doing this this was a trick a pro publica investigation found that int and others added lines of code to their
free file site so that it doesn't appear in a Google Search and several of the other companies are also found later to have done this to make it invisible essentially on the internet then there was their marketing in it and turbox started appearing everywhere from basketball stadiums to the Super Bowl welcome to the in turbo tanks Hal time then they start flooding the world with the word free that's right turbox free edition is free free free free free feels pretty good to most people this looked like the government required free file version of TurboTax but
no into it had created an Entre entirely new program confusingly called Turbo Tax free edition to divert traffic from the government option you arrive at this website that is build as being a free tax filing product and you begin to do the work of filing your taxes right you're uploading forms you're inputting personal information it was only after you spent all of these hours putting in all of your information that you discover that you actually can't file your taxes for free that you don't qualify for the free version all this hiding from Google searches the
confusing branding the deceptive use of the word free are you confused that was the point tax prep companies have sabotaged the free file program they've tricked and trapped American taxpayers in paying for alternative services that should be free that are marketed as free but in fact they don't make free I fell for this so many times over the years and after doing all of this work there was no way I was going to do anything but pay what other choice did I have all of this who are the demographic of Americans that are maybe most
susceptible to this kind of deceptive messaging it's the middle of the population people who are earning middle class salaries who have very simple taxes and the result was that by 2019 14 million Americans that were eligible to use the free tax filing software that they had promised to make ended up paying a fee for commercial software to prepare their tax returns all the technological and marketing deception worked so much so that they actually got sued Regulators on behalf of customers sued into it last year for 141 million they also agreed to cool it on the
whole free free free false advertising campaign so now when you go to the site and you see the big 0 sign there's an asteris next to it so Justice was served and the greedy tech company learned its lesson and from then on taxes were free and easy just like in Estonia in 2021 int announced that they were walking away from their deal that they may with the Bush Administration they would no longer offer a free filing software to low-income Americans but in their blog post announcing this they claimed that they're still committed to making a
free filing platform nobody should believe that int is ever going to seriously commit to offering a free version of its Core Business that would be suicidal for a company to do and there's no reason to expect them to act against their own self-interest we should treat them like adults and assume that they're going to do what's best for them and what is best for them is to charge as many Americans as much money as possible to complete their taxes it's ironic to me that in it often positions itself as like the advocate for the people
they had this whole ad campaign showing them all the time that they could save by not doing taxes we all have different sometimes crazy things to deal with we believe people can be good at anything yes even taxes in the free market you have the right to walk away that's the defining feature of the free market you don't need to buy the apples you don't need to buy the car you don't need to buy the computer you do need to file your taxes what these companies are doing are standing arride the highway that everybody needs
to travel and collecting tools and so the idea that this is a private Market is ludicrous and the Bush Administration was quite rightly saying to these companies get off the highway you are not allowed to collect tolls here but luckily there might just be change in the air the IRS is releasing a report this week on the possibility of a free government run tax filing service the Biden Administration has funded a pilot program for the IRS to create a portal where we Americans can pay our taxes without the need of a third party middleman called
Turbo Tax they're set to launch this as a small pilot for the 2024 tax season but of course they are determined to prevent this or to make it as impractical and small scale as possible because they have lots of money to throw throw at it they're collecting from all of us every year our fees for filing taxes and using them to ensure that we have to continue paying those fees to file taxes Bloomberg reported that into its spending on lobbying has hit an all-time high it's paying dozens of lobbyists these lobbyists include Mitch McConnell's speech
writer Nancy Pelosi's ex-chief of Staff a former Republican congressman and an adviser to Joe Biden when he was vice president you know it's really striking because you know the rhetoric around the IRS is so unremittingly negative that you might assume that Americans would want the protection that Turbo Tax says it is offering to them but when posters go out and ask the American people about this both parties say we want a government option we want a free filing portal we do not understand why we need to pay in order to pay our taxes it doesn't
make any sense each time free file came up an army of well-paid lawyers and lobbyists ascends on Congress to squash it this this must not be allowed to happen again but the pilot program is already in danger of ending House Republicans are pushing to cut 14 billion dollar in funding for the IRS including the money for the pilot program they say that the government can't be trusted to tell Americans how much they owe the government but this isn't a partisan issue leaders from both sides of the aisle have known for decades that we need to
make this happen that this is the sensical thing to do and hopefully this is the moment to finally make it happen I think at the end of the day this story is about faith in government it's about the ability of the government to do what it should have been doing all along to do it well and to deliver what Americans deserve which is an easy and free way to file their taxes this is a chance for the government to prove itself it's a chance for the government to make right on a promise that it has
broken so often over the last 40 years and to say we can do better we are doing better we're going to do this [Music] right [Music]