Joe Rogan Experience #2309 - Joey Diaz

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Joey Diaz is a standup comic, actor, and author. He's the host of "The Church of What's Happening No...
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Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day. Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. Let's [ __ ] go. Let's go. Joey Diaz, ladies and gentlemen. What's up, beautiful? It's good to see you, my brother. Good to see you. That was great. The club was [ __ ] in rare form last night. Oh, last night was packed. It's been packed all week. It's been really fun. A lot of fun shows, you know. Shane was there last night or the night before last. You know, you're there tonight. It's It's been amazing.
Holtzman is on fire. Holtzman's on fire. Last night he was on fire. He is [ __ ] Me and Adam Eaggan were howling. We were watching him from the balcony and howling. Such a good community, Joey. It's so nice out here. You know, I bumped into Duncan for breakfast. He's the best. Like, we just looked at each other. He's like, "What are you doing here?" And we sat down. Me and Duncan are going to corner you and try to get you to move here. No, we're going to we're going to figure it out. Yeah, you
got you got you belong here. Every time I come down here, I see something else that like I had a great time last night. Joe D. Rose is here now, too. That's what I heard. Yeah, he just moved here. Is he going to bring the sandwich shop down here? Yes, he is. We're going to open up a sandwich shop out here. He is, brother. That's a good [ __ ] I say we because I'm going to be eating. Yeah, he makes good sandwich. He makes a very good sandwich. Very good sandwich. Yeah, he brought a
bunch of them. What did he do? Was it Moon Tower last year that he brought them? It might have been. It was Moon Tower or South by Southwest. one of the two last year he brought like a ton of sandwiches. He had a popup. So he his his restaurant did a popup somewhere in Austin. I was like, "Bro, you got to open this up here. You'd be killing it." Especially if it's you and people know it's your business cuz I've heard this. Somebody else was telling me about the sandwiches. I got to go up there.
Very legit. I just don't even know where it is. I don't know if it's in Brooklyn, bro. I want to kidnap my man Giovani in White Plains. Bring him out here. Yeah, he'll [ __ ] He can't survive outside of Italian neighborhoods, though. That guy's the most Italian guy that's ever lived. And you know, they get their stuff up there. Yeah, they get everything. And it's all coming in right from Italy, you know, cuz a lot of it's imported. They they use a lot of imported stuff. Imported mortadella, imported u the peppers, all that stuff
that they have, you know, sundried peppers, sun-dried tomatoes. They import all that [ __ ] Yeah. They got to get that [ __ ] you know. Then if because if it goes there, then it's got to ship from the boat all the way to Texas. It's a little bit of a pain. Remember [ __ ] Greasy Tony? He used to drive once a month to New Jersey. Greasy Tony and get coconuts and [ __ ] chicken cutlets. Poor Greasy Tony. We used to visit him every time we went to Tempe. He was our guy. Remember
you said not to drink his Mountain Dew because he made it himself. He up for two days. He used to make that was the strongest Mountain [ __ ] dew you could ever taste in your life. You up for like a day. Greasy Tony was such a character. He was such a character and he became our friend. Yeah, he was a good dude. When we first started going there, I mean, we were visiting him for like 10 [ __ ] years, you know, every time we would do shows in town, we'd go visit Greasy Tony.
He had a $20 chicken cutlet sandwich. Phenomenal. 15 years ago, which weighed like I I was 400 lb. And I would bring it home and try to finish it. Do you remember that uh steak sub that he would make? What is it called? Trash can. Yes, that's right. The trash can. The trash can. It was crazy. peppers and onions and cheese and [ __ ] everything was in that thing. It was crazy. And you know what's really like thick? When I drove in yesterday, I'm like, "This is how things change." I mean, we've been coming
here since 95. I know. I Right. Yeah. I think 99 was my first time. I would do Houston and drive down here and do the lobby in the [ __ ] cap city when they had stand up in the lobby. I still remember that. driving from [ __ ] Houston down here, not having any money, having to drive back because we couldn't get a hotel room, drive back to Houston at the end of the night. And I was looking at this yesterday, like when I landed, it was 4:00, traffic, and I'm like, my god, this
is how we're we're watching how past civilizations just changed. Yes. Something happened here and everybody moved here. Yep. And I'm not talking about four or five people. Everybody. Yeah. And that's how civilizations change. We just witnessed it after the pandemic. It's been [ __ ] surreal. Yeah, it is surreal. Surreal to see things change. Yeah. Um, you know what? It's also there's places that sort of rest on their laurels too much. And whenever that happens, it's easy for another place to rise up that offers something more interesting. So like Los Angeles was always Los Angeles.
And like when Gavin Newsome talks about California, he's like, you know, I'm very big on California, very bullish on California. California has all this industry. Hey [ __ ] they're all thinking about moving. God, the only reason why they don't move is cuz it's too difficult to move. If it was like every business could instantly pull up roots and replace everything and have everything running in a week at the other place, they'd all be gone. They'd all be gone. They just it's too expensive. It's too expensive to leave versus what you would save and the
regulations that you wouldn't have to go through and all the [ __ ] with all the permits and all the what California does is overregulate everything. They get as much government involved as possible. They suck as much tax money out of you as possible and then they still leave the place a mess. They still have homeless people everywhere. It's still a [ __ ] disaster. It's still a woke shitow of virtue signaling at every level of the government still like no course correction at all. They're going further and further into La La Land and you're
like Jesus Christ you guys. And so then a place like Austin becomes attractive, you know, because like it's not like that here and people are very reasonable. And Austin, the best thing about Austin is it's a blue city in a red state. So it's like balanced. Like this is a saying they have out here. Keep Austin weird and surrounded. So Austin is surrounded by rednecks with guns and like it keeps the tone more medium. Like the Austin liberals, they're much more just left of center people like we are. You know what I mean? Like in
some parts of the country we're considered like far right. You and I far right. It's crazy. It's [ __ ] ridiculous. It's But it's because everybody went nuts and everyone demanded a whole series of things that you have to agree to in order to be a good person. Like, [ __ ] off. You know what the real problem is out there? Let me tell you what the real problem. I didn't realize it till I [ __ ] left. What? That everybody's too busy tapping themselves on the back. There's a lot of that. Every when the
fires happened, those three women or whatever the [ __ ] the the chief and whatever, I'm looking at them and I'm like, "Look at them. They all got gel in their hair. They all got a tattoo on their neck. God forbid. God forbid they can't be cool for just one [ __ ] minute. God forbid. And And that's the problem you have out there. It's too many people. I'm so great. This is my idea. And it's great. And it's going to work. It's not working. You're You're right. But you're too stupid to say, you know
what? This ain't working. Their egos are so big. They don't have the heart to go, this ain't working. You're right. You're absolutely right. But I don't think it's entirely their fault. It is their fault, but the culture rewards that kind of behavior. This is the problem with having protected classes of people, whether it's gay, lesbian, whatever it is, whether it's your nationality. If you have a protected class of people where you're not allowed to criticize the protected class of people, then they become, you know, vive um Ramaswami talked about this in a very interesting way.
He was like, "It's the tyranny of the underprivileged or is that what he called it? The the tyranny of the marginalized or something along those lines." But the idea is that this group of people, whether they're trans people or gay people, they get oh above everything. Everything you do is amazing. Oh my god, you're so fabulous. You're so Because no one wants to be think thought of as homophobic or transphobic. So you pretend that everything they do is incredible. And so you do you're going to be the best firefighter ever. Like can you carry a
burning man out of a building? Girl, you don't have to. If he was in that building, he he shouldn't have been in that building in the first place. If I have to carry him out, we got other problems. That a literal firefighter said that in response to could she carry her husband out of the building? Like no you no you can't. And so you shouldn't be a firefighter just like you shouldn't be a bouncer if you can't fight. You shouldn't be a firefighter. You shouldn't be a firefighter if you can't carry someone out of a
bill. If you can't run up a flight of stairs because you're 260 pounds and 5 foot seven and a woman. No. No. You shouldn't be a firefighter. You should have to be in like really good shape to be a No. If you're some [ __ ] CrossFits game lady who's some beast and like Yeah, that lady could be a firefighter. Yeah. But it's like like even guys, like if you're a guy and you're [ __ ] scrawny and you never work out and all you do is smoke cigarettes, maybe you shouldn't be a firefighter, you
know? Maybe you maybe you can't get up that [ __ ] flight of stairs either. It should be like it's a physical job where you're rescuing people. You have to be able to physically carry people. You have to rescue them. Firefighters when I was a kid were the [ __ ] big brutal men. Beast getting down doors. [ __ ] houses. They look like former football players. There's this guy I used to play pool with. Ray the fireman because everybody in the pool hall I was Joe the comedian. Everybody had a nickname based on what
you did. Ray the fireman was a [ __ ] house. He's just this big [ __ ] like big Irish guy, you know? Like, of course he's a fireman. Look at him. That guy was going to kick down a door, carry your [ __ ] husband, throw him over his shoulder, run through the flames, throw him on the lawn. He does it all the time. He's an animal. Like Veto's lover in the Sopranos. Remember he was a fireman. Remember he was the gay dude? I forgot about that scene. Then he killed himself in real life.
Yeah. Oh, did he really? after that show because they thought he was gay. I don't know. I read hope it wasn't that. I hope they didn't taunt him for being gay. You imagine you get your shot. Hey Joey, I got good news and bad news. Good news is you're going to be on the Sopranos. Bad news is you got to [ __ ] a guy and you got to swap spit with him. You got to swap spit on camera. Yeah, but you're on the Sopranos. What are you going to do? Depends on what you want
to do. If you're a regular guy and that's your first acting gig, I suggest you pass. I suggest you pass. I couldn't swap. You have to be like a Jared Leto type dude to pull that off. Died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound December 16th, 2008 at the age of 47. And he was a firefighter, a former firefighter. Who knows? I mean, when when did he die? How long after the show? try to find that. Go pull it back up again because it just said so he died in 2008. So the show was running in 2008,
right? Yep. Was Soprano still on in 2008? No. No, it was off by then, I think. No, 2009, maybe. I I don't know. Let's find that out and then we'll have an answer. But um I would imagine if you're a guy, an Italian guy or whatever, and you go back to the neighborhood and you've been playing, it ended June 10th, 2007. So right after it ended, I guess. Right after it ended, he waxed himself. That's so unfortunate. It's another beautiful thing about the comedy community. Like, nobody gives a [ __ ] if you're gay. Nobody.
Like Tim Dylan. Tim Dylan just he's just one of us. It's just we're all like the lesbians that come there and hang out. They're just one of us. No one gives a flying [ __ ] It's just if you're not funny, nobody wants to hang out with you. If you're not funny, like get out of the green room. You know what I mean? But if you're funny, who cares? No one cares. Do you remember the kid from Houston? Which one? The guy that used to always wear football shirts. Yes. Where did he he passed away?
He That was my brother. What was his name? God damn it. I loved him. I loved him. It's [ __ ] escaping my mind. With the little hat on. You're going to remember his time. Had he come up to you and give you a hug all the time? I haven't seen him in so long. When did he die? I don't know. Maybe 10 years ago. Did he talk about being gay on stage? No, but he told me he was gay all the time. Oh, yeah. Well, he was gay. He would go to those army things
just to [ __ ] men. Well, he just looked like a football player. Like a big form He looked like a Shane Gillis type dude. Yeah. Like a big former football player. But he was gay. But he was gay. He always wore football jerseys. Always football jersey. That's how we trick him. Sweetheart of a guy. But again, same situation, Joey. That guy was one of us. He just hung out with us. No, I loved him to death. He just hung out with us. I love that dude to death. It didn't even matter to me that
he was Listen, that's never mattered to me. You got to remember, I was a Judas Priest fan in high school. That dude's just gay as hell. First time I saw Nobody knew. Isn't that funny? I [ __ ] knew in 79. Nobody comes out with a little hat with a whip, you know? I saw him at the palladium. I'm like comment. Oh my god. Did you ever read You just have to try to read his book. Really? Jimmy Florentine gave it to me. You have to try to read it. Is it crazy? I'll just tell
you one story that there was a guy in Chicago like a a stylist that used to tell him he wanted dick always bust. You know those people, those women, come on, Joe. Come on. What you know? And you're like, "Come on. It's never going to happen." And he said finally he got pissed off one day and he took the guy up in his office. He goes, "I [ __ ] him so hard I blew out with his O-ring. I had to go to the hospital. I'm reading this going, "This is my type of [ __
] guy. I love this [ __ ] guy." Well, you got to think what Rob Halford did when he was at the head of Judas Priest. He got all these straight guys to dress like they're in a gay biker gang because they wanted to be cool like Judas Priest. He changed the style of a kind of music. He really did. I loved them. How many straight guys dressed like gay bikers, not even knowing what they were doing? They just thought, you know, this is how you dress for this kind of music. But it was because
of Rob Alfred. [ __ ] Rob. And he's still out. You know, I uh had him on a show once. There he is. That bad [ __ ] You got another thing coming. I had a buddy of mine in high school who loved that song and he used like a quote of it in his uh in his yearbook. And I always remember thinking, "Wow, that's the coolest quote." Like if you think you're going to sit around, let your chip away my brain. Listen, I ain't fooling and you better think again. Out there is a fortune
waiting to be had. You think I let it go? You're mad. You got another thing coming. [ __ ] great album. Great [ __ ] That kid never did anything though. No, he never left the town. He fell apart. And here's the weirdest thing about Judas Priest. What? His writing. That's what I [ __ ] died about. His writing. Cuz he would write and you're thinking he's writing about a woman. He's writing about [ __ ] He's writing about a man. And he has a song called Burning Up that is so [ __ ] over
the top. I know you feel the same. I know you feel the flame burning deep inside of you, burning you up, breaking you down, breaking you out in a cold sweat. But when you lose control of your very soul, your desire takes over. You'll feel the heatwave. You'll answer my way. And suddenly you know that you're burning up. Ooh, that is a bad mother. When I heard that, I'm like, "Oh, let me hear that, Jamie. We'll have to edit this out of the YouTube." For the folks at home, please seek it online. Here we go.
Listen to the way it starts. It's like a satellite. This is back before satellites. Like before we had modems. Oo, this is 1980. This is on a hell bent for leather tour. You could let songs cook back then, you know, like time. Pink Floyd time. Oh, baby. Guess what? just got added to the Spotify playlist. You dish the hot stuff up. You keep me waiting. So I play it dirty till your body is breaking. We've got to make love. The time is right. We got to make love tonight cuz we're burning up. You make me
feed my food. But I'll make it easy cuz I see straight through you. There you go. Yeah. Hot hot gay love. So when I read when I read those lyrics, I'm like, that's the most brilliant [ __ ] thing. That's a dark the darkest thing about gay people today is that some of them are in the closet other than homophobia is that other there's a genuinely people that hate gays, but that's rare. Nobody hates gays. No, there's there's 2025. I can't see you. You know, it's all around us. So, if you're still hating, you got
a [ __ ] problem. There there's guys that have been molested when they were young. Um, they get angry at gay people. Not on and not not that it makes sense. I'm not justifying it, but I I've met guys that had problems with gay people. They were like very scared around gay people, but it was because they got molested by a pedophile, right? That happened. Pedophile and being gay. Two different [ __ ] things. Big difference. So, I'm just saying like there are people and there's very religious people that don't like gay people, but most
normal people don't give a [ __ ] Most normal people don't give a [ __ ] and they shouldn't. It's stupid. It's a dumb thing to think about. Like, I don't It's just like, if you're not having sex with me, what do I care? Like, who cares? This episode is brought to you by the farmer's dog. I've been asking dog owning friends what they feed their dogs, and most of them are surprised by the question. And I get it. For decades, kibble was the only option. But as humans have been eating healthier, companies like the
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Why? Cuz you're a machismo type of dude. So that but my mother was the one that goes, "No, they're [ __ ] And then we had a gay guy in our neighborhood. I told you about this guy. He was he worked at my mother. He was a a designer on Broadway for some plays. He would design the cows. Okay. But at night he sold coke. He was like this is like 1975. And he would come to the bar and I knew he was gay. His name was Mading. We call him Mading and Marikong because that's
what that means in Spanish. Mikong means [ __ ] in Spanish. So that was his open name in the Cuban community. But one day he came into my mother's bar and there was two bookies. I was like a kid. And I was playing that shuffle board. Uhhuh. Remember when you play the sawdust and you spray? I'm playing the shuffle board and he was right there and the two bookies were in the corner and the one guy goes, "Look who it is. My thing and my gong." And this [ __ ] pulled out a 32. Oh
Jesus. And he goes, "Listen, I'm going to tell the both of you that unless you suck my dick or I [ __ ] ass, you don't have the right to call me Martin the fag." So say it again. I'm going to shoot both these. And my mom's yelling at him. Martin, Martin, Coco's behind you. if they start shooting at each other. I'm right here. I look I lift my head up. I'm like, "Hold." And Martin's like, "And all a sudden Martin left." So the next day I guess he called my mother to apologize. And Martin,
my mother made Martin come and apologize to me. And when he opened the door and he was like, "I'm very sorry about pulling out the gun." I go, "Fuck that. You're my new Charles Bronson." I gave him a [ __ ] hug and he became my best friend after that. And I respected him because he was going through hate. Yeah. Really? In the mid70s, he would come back once a week with a black eye or busted lip. He went to a bl bar bar in the village and there'd be guys waiting for him on the
way out. And I always respected that dude. Like always respected him for that. The problem with bullies and bigots and all people that attack people like that is all the is the same problem in all walks of society. It's weak men. It's almost always just weak men. Weak stupid men that want to find someone to pick on. Want to find someone that's not bothering them at all and [ __ ] with them because they're weak. That's all it is. That's all it is. It's all but that's all it is. Like the woke people that scream
at you and want you to do what they want. The people that want to like spray paint swastikas on Teslas. It's the same thing. It's weak men. Mostly weak men. A bunch of crazy women and they're all together in this big pile of suck that's connected to a political ideology. But most people, you know, you shouldn't care. And if you do care, you just weren't around. I I was around gay people when I was real young. Unfortunately, I lived in San Francisco when I was 7 years old and we were in the middle of gay
land. I mean, it was San Francisco in the 70s, dude. It was gay as [ __ ] during the Vietnam War in San Francisco. I remember I'd be walking down the street with my stepdad once and a guy whistled at him. I was like, "Oh shit." Like kind of uncomfortable. Like he didn't freak out. He's just like shook his head, shook his head like, "What the fuck?" When they whistle out with a little kid, he's walking with a sevenyear-old and this guy whistled him down. That guy didn't give a [ __ ] about kids. He's
not making any. He doesn't care. So, um, we had these next door neighbors who these gay this gay couple and my aunt used to, uh, smoke weed with them and they'd get naked and play bongos. And she loved the fact that she could get naked with these guys cuz they didn't didn't try to [ __ ] her. So, they all just get naked together and smoke weed and play bongos. It was hilarious. They were really nice people. So, like my experience with gay people was just like they're everywhere. It's normal. So when I moved to
Florida, I had a a friend. My friend uh was Cuban. His name was Candy. His last name was Candido. We called him Candy. And uh Candy was with his dad. And his dad throws a newspaper down on the [ __ ] table. God damn it. And he's like, "What? What's going on?" It's like, "These [ __ ] [ __ ] are trying to marry each other." And I remember I was 11 years old and I was like, "Why do you care?" Like he was getting he threw the newspaper at the table because of gay marriage.
I'm like, "Why do you care?" I'm like, "What a fool. You're a grown ass man and you care about that. Like, who cares if they get married? Yeah, I know. He was cute. But he was mad, bro. But [ __ ] Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. They want to try to get married cuz you know they've been [ __ ] with gays with marriage forever. It's so wrong, man. It's so wrong. There's nothing. Listen, I see it and it doesn't bother me at all. It's just like everything else. It's just there's a certain percentage of society
that are just born gay and there's plenty of them to hang out with each other and they should be your friends. Yes. Scott. No. The the football player. Oh yes. Scott. That's his first name. Now we got to work on his last name. Oh, god damn it. Scott. Yeah. I need to call somebody otherwise this is Do you got Matty Kers's number? We should call Matty Kers. He wouldn't know. No. Somebody from That's going to drive me nuts. Somebody from Houston would know cuz I don't want to call somebody online and have to describe him
and then people go, "Oh, you described Scott." Well, what I was thinking you were saying was Jeff Scott. Jeff Scott from the Comedy Store is another example of a gay guy who was our brother. Brother. He was our brother. That guy. That's it. Scott Kennedy. Scott Kennedy. Look at him with his New Orleans shirt on. Scott Kennedy was awesome. Awesome. Sorry, I forgot his name, but he's not around to be embarrassed. How did he die? I don't know. Look at him with Craig Fergus. always had uh football jerseys on. I mean, that guy did not
look gay. Like, he looked like a big old football player. Like, you could see him in the backyard like like smoking a whole hog with a bunch of boys drinking Bud Lights. But here's the problem. Here's what I felt from Scott. Cuz I met him in Houston and then we connected in LA like 2000. When he hugged me, I didn't feel threatened. No, not at all. When Jeff Scott hugged me, never I never felt threat. No, no, no, no, no. I I have to. Eric Roachcher when he hugs me, my the kid at the comedy
store, I hug him with all my [ __ ] heart. And I don't even feel that type of [ __ ] I never felt that. I've only felt that once ever from one comedian and it was at the Montreal Comedy Festival and he was drunk and he wouldn't stop. He kept touching me, too. Kept touching me and telling me he wanted me to take me upstairs. Yeah, that was very unfortunate because he was just drunk and I don't even think he thought I was gay. And I don't even think he thought I would do it.
I think he was just trying to make me uncomfortable, you know, but he was definitely like last call for alcohol, like hitting on people and he was hammered. I was thinking like, imagine being a girl and this is happening where you fear for your life. Cuz I threatened him. I said, "Dude, I'm going to stomp a [ __ ] hole in your chest if you keep doing this. Leave me alone." And that was enough. But if you're a girl, you can't say that. If you're a girl, you got to go seriously, leave me alone. You
got to find authorities. You got to go to the [ __ ] go to the front desk. go to the bar like the the the check out people and say, "Can you guys call the police, please? This guy I don't want to walk to my car. Can someone walk me into my car?" You got to be worried about that. That sucks. But that's rare with guys. That's that's happened to me once in 57 years where a guy uncomfortably hit on me and wouldn't stop. One other time at the store, but that wasn't as as blatant.
It was just he kept touching me. like, "Stop [ __ ] touching me." You know, there's there's gay guys that like push those limits. Like, if you were a girl and a guy kept putting his hand on your leg, he'd be like, "Hey, stop doing that. Like, why do you keep grabbing me? Why do you keep touching my body? Why do you keep touching my legs? Stop. That's [ __ ] weird. You're crossing lines. And I don't know what other lines you're thinking about crossing. So, let's stop this." But that's not most gay people, you
know? I have these uh friends that I live next to in California. They're gay and they're super Republican now. It's hilarious. I followed them on Facebook. They're [ __ ] super Republican now. They're they're all in against the Dems. How they've ruined California. Cuz these guys are they're conservative gay couple. They're married. They got a kid. And they're just like enough of this. The world is changing, brother. Yeah. Well, that that's a good thing that the world is changing, you know, because there's Do you know the guy who invented um the Turing test? You know
what the Turing test is? His name is Allan Turing. And he's um he is a scientist. He he invented a test that they say AI has passed. And this test is where you can talk to a computer and not be able to tell that it's a computer. It behaves like a human. It thinks like a human. and it communicates like a human where it's in disccernible. That's the the touring test. AI has recently passed the touring test. Well, this guy this he was in England when this happened, right, Jamie? Where they they forced him to
take medication. He got arrested for being gay in like the 1950s and they forced him to take medication that made him sterile, made him impotent so he couldn't have sex. Like they they forced him to take like hormone blockers that they give to sex offenders, you know, chemical castration when they do that to sex offenders. And then he killed himself. The guy who invented the method of determining whether or not AI has become sensient gets murdered by dumb apes who don't like that he's gay. How crazy is that? I'm not [ __ ] that story
up, right? I'm confirming. I'm pretty sure that's when they give you blockers to to sexual offenders. When do they give you that? Well, they don't always do it, you know, but uh it's called chemical castration. And by the way, it's the same chemicals, the same drugs that they use on kids when they give them hormone blockers. So, when you talk to a they're talking about a child getting puberty blockers, you know, oh, it's totally reversible. The [ __ ] it is. the [ __ ] it is. That's the same [ __ ] It's chemical castration.
It's not reversible. That child is never going to fully develop. If they get on hormone blockers and then when they're 18, they go, "You know what? I think I actually am a man." Too late. Too late. Because from 13 to 15, you suppressed your testosterone. Okay, here it is. Turing was later convicted by the advice of his brother and his own solicitor and he entered a plea of guilty uh in the case Regina versus Turring and Murray was brought to trial on the 31st of March 1952. Turing was convicted and given a choice between imprisonment
and probation. His probation would be conditional on his agreement to undergo hormonal physical changes designed to reduce libido known as chemical castration. He accepted the option of injections of what was then called Stilbo um now known as dilbrol or dees a synthetic ostrogen. This feminization of his body was continued for the course of one year. The treatment rendered Turing impotent and caused breast tissue to form. In a letter, Touring wrote that no doubt I shall emerge from it all a different man, but quite who I've not found out. Murray was given a conditional dis discharge.
So Murray must have been the guy he was having sex with. That's so crazy, man. Arrested for being gay 1954 at his house. Uh Turing's housekeeper found him dead. postmortems held that evening determined that he had died from the previous day at age 41 with cyanide poisoning cited as the cause of death. He had an apple lay half eaten beside his bed. Although apples not tested for cyanide, it was speculated that this was the means in which Turing had consumed a fatal dose. So he [ __ ] killed himself cuz they chemically castrated him. you
know, founder of computer science and crypto cryptographer whose work was key to breaking the wartime enigma codes. So, this guy like helped the British crack codes. And what did they do? They injected him with poison so that his dick wouldn't work. So, he couldn't [ __ ] guys anymore, which is what he wanted. He was Imagine that if they were everyone was gay, everyone. and you were straight and you're like, "I don't want any dick. This is crazy." Like guys keep trying to offer your dick like, "No, no, no, no. Is there anything else?" And
then you meet girls like, "Oh, look. They're so soft and so pretty. That's what I like. I like girls." And like, "No, you don't. No, you're going to take this gay drug until you get that out of your system or we're going to chemically castrate you. You can't be having sex with girls. Like, but they're so pretty. They're so lovely to be around. I'm so attracted to them." No. No. No. No. Only guys. That's crazy. That's how stupid these people, especially like when you get to like serious fundamentalist rigid religions which want to throw them
off roofs. This part of Middle East, they throw them off the roof. Round up all the gay guys. Throw them off the roof and everybody watches and cheers. Yay. Crazy. Like I said, it's a different world out there, my friend. It is a different world out there. But it's the world out there that could be just like the world here. It could go this way here. Like this is what people don't understand. Just how Los Angeles fell apart. The United States could fall apart, too. You know, like look at Iran. We were looking at Iran
the other day in photographs from the 1970s. Girls had miniskirts. They all look really hot. The guys had no shirts on with six-packs walking down the street. Everyone's smiling. Looks like Europe. It looks like you're in Italy. And now it's a religious country. It's run by a dictatorship. Like you you criticize the government, they execute you. They executed a Olympic gold medalist in wrestling. Yeah. The UFC even tried to get them to stop. They plead they pleaded to try to get him to stop. They tried to get Trump to get him to or was it
during the Biden administration or the Trump administration? I don't remember. But they tried to get the president to somehow or another talk to Iran and not kill this guy. They killed him because he spoke against the government allegedly. But you don't even have to really have spoken against the government. That's what's so scary. You just have to be accused of speaking against the government. I mean, in this day and age, any like a friend of mine's uh Twitter account got hacked and he got fished. They sent him an email and he didn't, you know, he's
not that sophisticated with that stuff and so he got fished and then I heard he got fished. So, um, I go to my, um, Twitter just cuz I never check my DMs, but I did it just cuz I knew he got fished. And I went into my DM and it was him asking me for my email address after he got fished. So, I was like, this [ __ ] he's trying to get me now. So someone could easily get your account and then or use, you know, some sort of code cracker or figure out your
code then start posting stuff for you against the government. Especially if you're in Iran, like they they probably already have all your passcodes for everything over there. They probably been like spying on everybody's computer from the jump. They probably just go to the database. What's Joey Diaz's Facebook password? Okay, post a bunch of [ __ ] there about these government the people in government should all be lined up and shot. They they all suck dicks secretly. They're all eating babies. Just make them say something like that and then let's go round them up and then
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what happens when the war breaks out? They give them the option like you could either be in jail forever or you can go fight in the war. And so they go to the front line and they get killed by American weapons, guys who are tweeting against Putin. It's like he can use it to get rid of his political enemies. Crazy. And this is all while you and I at the same time hanging out in Boston or hanging out in Austin rather eating barbecue. You know, like it could go that way here, too. Just like it
went that way in Iran, it could go that way in the United States. Just like LA fell apart. LA 20 years ago was amazing. Amazing. Do you remember LA in 2005? We were having the time of our lives. 96. Oh my god. We were having the time of our lives. The restaurants were great. There was music playing everywhere. It was fun. There was a lot of great comedy. We had a good group of guys we're all hanging out with. LA was great. Yeah, there was still some traffic, but you know, was the weather was great.
People were generally pretty nice, a lot nicer than they were on the East Coast. It's not even the same place anymore. And that can happen anywhere. That can happen in the United States. If something terrible happens in the United States, new laws get passed, new restrictions, that can happen anywhere. That's why I talk about it so much. People like, "Why do you obsess about it so much?" Because you need to be paying attention. Because when it's too late, when they've already got complete control of what you could say on social media and they got you
locked down, you're in trouble. You're in trouble because so many other things are coming that they're aware of. And the big one is automation. Joey, when automation comes, and this is what um Andrew Yang was kind of running on when he was running for president, and I had him in, and it was a very interesting conversation because it was something that I hadn't considered that all these jobs are gone. You know, there's parts of the world like uh there's ports in China now where it's 100% controlled by robots. There's a few people that run around,
do maintenance and stuff, but everything screens, everything is super efficient. These robots pick up the packages. They make an inventory of everything's in there. Everything gets logged into the computer. They put it into these trucks and before you know it, they're going to have electric trucks that drive themselves. That's why the strike happened in Jersey all over with the team with the long shoreman. Yes. Because they know it. They don't have much left. They don't have much time left. They don't have much time left. It's [ __ ] crazy how industry has just dwindled in
this country. I know. You know, and Americans really don't see that. See, cuz everybody's [ __ ] into traveling and being cool. The gift that I had from doing comedy was I really got to see the country. I really got to see the ins and outs. And when I was a feature actor, I would ask questions. You know, like when you don't sit in a hotel all day and you just go out and you go to a movie theater and you ask questions and people tell you, "Oh my god, that's a great restaurant. Go there."
You know, you look at cities like Cleveland. Okay, I don't know if a lot of people know this. 20 years ago with all the jokes and [ __ ] Cleveland had more Puerto Ricans than New York City. Really? Because there was a [ __ ] car plant there. Oh. And they were building cars there. You know, I remember being a [ __ ] kid and going to Detroit for a basketball tournament or something stupid and seeing that city. It was 197677. That city was [ __ ] booming. Detroit was one of the richest cities in
the world. Booming. It was the murder capital at the time. Was it still even back then? Yeah. Yeah. Because when I met my buddy in the 80s, it was he was from Detroit and it was the murder capital. But 7576 that city was booming, bro. Yeah. You know, Buffalo, New York, booming. Fisher Price, all these other companies left. You know, that's what I saw. Cleveland, Pittsburgh. Yeah. Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh Steel. Yep. I went to Pittsburgh two years ago. Half the [ __ ] was closed down, brother. Yep. You know, so when I Youngtown, same thing. Youngstown.
What? No. Wasn't it was downtown Pittsburgh, like just around that area I went to? No, but Youngstown was like that too, right? Was it? Youngstown was a much better environment than it is now. I believe Tony told me Tony's from destroyed those parts of the country. Now, I don't know what happened in Nebraska. They could have had their own problems in Wyoming. I just know that little stretch. Buffalo, Cleveland, you know, [ __ ] Cincinnati. All those towns that were booming. Y have just disappeared. They got gutted. All the jobs went overseas. So if you're
going to bring this country back, it's got to start with that. We got to go back to that that to make us strong again. And yeah, we're going to have to [ __ ] sweat it out for 10 months. But you know what? Three years 10 years ago, I [ __ ] was getting those $100 day movies and I said, I'm not doing them anymore. For a year, I didn't work as an actor. Then finally, I got a high-scale movie because I kept saying no. Yeah. To the low movies. That's how you lift up a
little bit. That's how you bump up by just saying [ __ ] no. We didn't want to do this all of a sudden and we need to do this. We need to get this country hopping again. The problem is they gave corporations an opportunity to make more money at the sacrifice of all those jobs in America. And the problem with corporations is they they have an obligation to constantly make more money and labor. Yeah. But but no, but that's the way you make more money is by having no labor. And not just that, no health
insurance. This is, you know, the Ron, not Ron Paul. Um, what's his name? Ross Bro. Ros Perau uh talked about that. We were talking about with Ron White the other day that he was explaining that if you change these regulations and make it cheaper and easier for these people to go and make he said, "You're going to hear a giant sucking sound as all the businesses go south." And that's exactly what happened. That's exactly what happened. And he he called that in the 1990s. That was my boy. Yeah. I voted for him. I love Russell.
Always did. always. That's a real [ __ ] American right there. He was They threatened him, dude. They They threatened his his family. Like he pulled out of the he was going to run again a second time and he said he's not going to do it because his family was under threat and that he considered serious. He was dangerous cuz he he could ruin the election. Like he Bush they thought was going to win a second term, but Ross Bro came along and conservative people that didn't really want to believe in the Republican party anymore.
like this party's just as full of [ __ ] as the left. They saw this Ross Pearl guy and they went, "Oh, okay." He took a considerable amount of the vote and most of it would be against what Herbert Walker Bush would have got. And then Clinton came along and [ __ ] wasn't even supposed to win that year. Bam. Now he's in. Let's go. Remember, they're paying for this with your money. I'm paying for this with my money. Exactly. That was his [ __ ] classic [ __ ] That was hysterical. You remember when
he had that half hour show on TV where he explained how the Federal Reserve works? I don't remember that. Yeah. He took over he bought a a half hour of regular prime time TV to explain to people how you're getting [ __ ] He's explaining all the scams that you're that that are being run on you that you don't know about. And this is why I'm running for president. I'm like, whoa, look at this guy. That guy [ __ ] did something that a lot of people don't know. Yeah. When his employees got kidnapped in
Iran and he went in there and took him out and he hired like a like a Marlon Brando from Apocalypse Now to to train his employees. Really? Yeah. He was a retired colonel. Some badass Vietnam. So it was his actual employees that went and got him out. Yeah, that's the story. He he trained he made his employees. It's a for We're family. Whoa. We're going over. And he made a promise to the people's families that he would have him back by Christmas. And he had him back by Christmas. Wow. And and Kissinger kept giving them
[ __ ] a hard time. Bunch of people kept giving him a hard time. He did not give a [ __ ] He goes, "I'm doing it." I gave those people my word. His word was word, dog. How much money was he worth? Billions. Yeah. He was a billionaire back then in the in the 90s already, I believe. So, how much money was Ross Bro worth? Who's a billionaire? Yeah. Which back then, so 1990 billionaire, it's probably like it's probably just double the billions, whatever it is. Probably something like that or maybe triple the bill.
Did he get oil money? At the time, 92, he was the 13th wealthiest man in America. Net worth around four billion. So what is 4 billion from that time worth today? Let's guess. Three billion. Eight billion. Eight. Yeah, I'm going say nine. I might be way off though. I'm just I'm completely guessing. Just under seven. There you go. We're both wrong. H That's a lot of money though. Still, it's almost double. Yo, what about the chief of police in my own town? They [ __ ] on his desk. Yeah. Why'd he do that? I don't
know. Was he proving a point? What was the What was up with that? No, man. I heard he's a good dude, but he's a prankster. Oh, he's like a prankster type of dude. He sends [ __ ] So, he's like Ari Shafir. Yeah. He sends like packages to your house and he's one of those dudes, you know. And uh I don't know. That's I guarantee it was like a joke and it just blew up. Now it's national. Now you got nowhere to go, you know. Oh my god. Did you see what Ari did once he
shoved a note up his ass and he [ __ ] it out on stage and read it? Look at your face. I don't want nobody to read a note out of their ass. I don't want you [ __ ] in the room with me. What kind of parasites and bugs and No, he's got hemorrhoids. He's got all sorts of stuff is flying through the air. Every breath you breathe is Ari [ __ ] gas flying around. He's a [ __ ] nut. He's so crazy. He has not stopped at all. Like it is not ending.
No. I'm going to his thing next week. He's never grown up. No, no, he's never grown up. It's not happening. He's getting married, right? Or he got married or something like that. So, he's already married. Yeah. He's got a little celebration party and [ __ ] What? I don't even know what the [ __ ] it is. It's going to be a [ __ ] carnival of psychopaths. Dog, I was telling you the other night, I got really [ __ ] high. I got home and I couldn't sleep and I started watching old fights. I
even watched a Papino Quuez fight. Oh yeah, that dude was fast. Yeah, he was good. He was good. And I watched You ever see him versus Tommy Hearns? No. See if you can find Papino Quavez versus Tommy Hearns. I'm 90% sure that's who I'm talking about. Papino Quz was I think a little thinner of a guy. I don't know. Wasn't he a 47? Maybe I'm wrong. Thomas Hearns was a 47. Yes. He started his career 47, went all the way up to light heavyweight. Yeah, Papino Quavers versus Tommy Hearns. One of the most memorable moments
of the early days of uh Tommy Hearns's uh like when he was like at the peak of his powers. Tommy Hearns was nuking people, man. Just nuking people. He had such a reach and such width for 45. He was such a physical freak. And he was big, but he had cra I mean long and skinny, but crazy power, which like generally like thin guys don't have the same kind of power as like the muscular guys. But Tommy Hearns was kind of like Deontay Wilder. He was both thin and muscular at the same time. And some,
you know, skinny legs, man. But my god, the [ __ ] torque that guy had in his punches. You got to think of the leverage cuz his shoulders are so wide. So it's when he twists his hips and he's got those long arms coming your way with all those [ __ ] back muscles and the core engaged. [ __ ] blam. Hey, blam. When was the last time there was a fight like this from Detroit? Well, Tommy's from Detroit. No, no, but I'm saying they don't even have fights like this in Detroit. They're so poor
now. Oh, is this Was this in Detroit? Yeah. Oh, wow. Well, that's Tommy's hometown, you know. He was hunting people. You ever seen him knock out Roberto Duran? Dog, I watched it. That's what I was watch. I watched Listen to the triple feature. I watched I watched Duran Haggler Haggler. Yeah. Back that up a sec. Back that up a sec. Look, he's measuring him with his left. Watch this. He's measuring him. And watch this. Boom. Holy [ __ ] Oh my goodness, son. Holy [ __ ] Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. That Tommy Hearns,
that kind of power was crazy. Yeah, you better stop that fight. My goodness. Tommy Hearns was all He was a one hitter quitter. Face plant Roberto Durant, bro. Him and Haggler. What a crazy fight. Had to stop and roll it back. He rolling it back. The crazy thing about that fight is they they did not box at all. They went to war. They went to war. There was no boxing, slipping. There was no fainting. Marvin Haggard just said, "Fuck you." and ran at him. He just ran at him and just [ __ ] just started
smashing. It was non-stop. Yeah, there was like a minute and a half. It was nonfucking stop. Tommy broke his hand in the first round. So, in the first round when they first come out, the greatest round of boxing. Look at this [ __ ] Yep. God, Haggler was good. He's another one who died right after the vaccine. Look at this. Right away. Right hook to the body. Just charging. Charging forward. Charging forward. [ __ ] this. [ __ ] this boxer on the outside. I'm trying to get in there. Boom. To the body again. Boom.
Right hand. Boom. Just going to [ __ ] war, dude. Right here. I mean, highp profofile two world champions completely throwing it all out the window. Just whailing on each other. Holy [ __ ] Joe. Boom. Left hand boom. Boom. The thing about Haggler was his discipline was [ __ ] supreme, man. That never got that guy never got out of shape. He always would break guys, break their will. Boom, boom, boom. So, by this time, Tommy probably already has a broken hand. So, he broke it on Haggler's head somewhere in the first. So, now
he's throwing the jab. So, I bet his hand's already broken. See, it's all left hands now. He threw that right hand, but he was weak. You know, he didn't he didn't really hurt him with the right hand. He's like pulling it back as he's throwing it. See, he's just trying to touch him with that right hand. That that left hand is all he's got left. His right hand is cooked. And Hearns has decided to start moving and boxing, which is not like his style. See, like even when he's landing that right hand, he's got no
power behind it now. And Sugar Ray Letter's talking [ __ ] in the commentary. Both fighters are balancing. Tommy catch Haggler could take a shot too better than anybody. He only has one knockdown accredited to him his entire career, but it wasn't a knockdown. He fought Ron Raldan and Ron Juan Raldan like kind of cuffed him in the back of the neck and like pushed him forward and Haggler fell forward and touched the ground and the referee mistakenly called it a knockdown. The only time he's ever been down. Took bombs from the greatest punchers in
the division. beat everybody except Sugar Ray. And I think the only reason why he lost to Sugar Ray was I think the fix was in in that fight, son. I watched that fight many times. Many times. Yeah. There something about it. Something about it. And then Haggar leaves and goes to become a movie star in Italy. Come on. And his trainers are the Petronelli brothers in Brockton, Massachusetts. Come on. Shut the [ __ ] up. You know how much money was on Haggler to win? Probably. You know, there's probably some sort of a deal. Like,
look, the odds are very favorable in Aqua's direction. If we can get a bet on Leonard, we can clean up here. We can get Marvin to just like, you know, don't put him away. Just touch him a little bit. Touch him. He never has him hurt. Never has him hurt in the whole fight. Just He was so good. I just He didn't seem right. It seemed like almost he was like sparring sometimes. Hard to say, though. Sugar was so good, too. the guy could come back after all those years off. You know, he had one
fight, got dropped, said he was retiring, and then comes back and decides he's going to fight Haggler, and then he wins. And then Haggler's like, "I'm done. I'm done. I'm going to go to Italy and make terrible movies." You ever see those Marvin Haggler movies? No. Oh, you got to see some clips. No, Joey, they're the dumbest movies of all time. Haggler punches people, they go flying through the air. No, I'm not watching. I love Marvin Agma too much. No, they're fun. Look, he was having a good time. I bet he was a huge star
in Italy, but that's that to me it's like everything seems fishy. The fight seemed fishy to me. The decision seemed fishy to me. And then Haggler goes off and becomes a movie star and I go, "Okay, in Italy. How does that happen? How do you get connected? How does that happen? Look how bad this movie is. Would call me. Look how bad this movie is. The power of Commando. The world has to know what's happening here. It's the thrill packed feature action fans are waiting for. I want those Indios. Marvelous Marvin Haggler returns from the
original Indio. Indo 2, the revolt. The jungle is shrinking. This year could do the highway to our jungle. It's paid by the mine and greed is spreading. You had better start praying to your god that we finish the highway before the rainy season here. Only one man is mean enough. I know many of us may die, but it is better to die than to live like slaves. Mad enough. Tell them the days of running and hiding are over. This is your land. Will you lead us, my friend? Sometimes. It's hilarious. I I don't see one
Italian. There's not one [ __ ] Italian. That guy. That guy. That guy with his mustache. That was Sergio. I got to be in this movie. You get You hit me with a left hand. Come on. I got one scene. Hilarious. Wow. I didn't even know that [ __ ] Yeah, that guy was my hero when I was a kid. And they didn't even make him like a shaft or anything. They made him go into like the [ __ ] I can see we put him with kind of the black. Italian movies. It's an Italian
movie. They made them in Italy. There's a lot of movies being made in Italy. That's why they call those spaghetti westerns, right? You know that. Did you ever hear of those story? Like how interesting that is? The Sergio Leone movies. Well, when it I I just saw something about it maybe eight months ago, but there's a thing in my channel 11 in Jersey on Saturday. It's called I am. And every week they have somebody else on and it's brilliant show. I am Bruce Lee. I am this. I am that. It's just brilliant. And they had
what were we just talking about? Marvin Hankler. No, they had an I am about somebody. Oh, uh, Clint Eastwood. Clint Eastwood. And it was how he would go and shoot the movies and then they would send them the films and he'd have to do ADR in LA. Oh, really? [ __ ] interesting [ __ ] I didn't know anything about this stuff. So, why did he have to do AD? So, ADR, what does that stand for? It's for your voice. What does it stand for, though? Automated dialogue replacement. Thank you. Audio engineer. When he shot
the movies, he was just talking. So then when he'd get them after they put them together, he would lay the American in them. Oh, I see. And now, you know, he would send them back and they would send them back. And so when he shot the movies, he wasn't even speaking. He had to speak over it. Over it or something. Yeah. Wow. Cuz Wow. They probably had it dubbed in Italian. But you got to remember all the that Listen, I'm a big fan of that era of movies. That's my era of movies that those those
people and dog you know I watched the other night. You haven't seen this movie in 30 [ __ ] years. None of you. When you put it on you're going to [ __ ] one flew over the cuckoo's nest. I haven't seen that in forever dog. They got seven stars in that movie. Like you Babbbit Charlie Babbitt Martini [ __ ] the guy from Jersey. What's his name that was in taxi? The little guy. He's still around. Danny. Oh Daniel was in that dog. Really? [ __ ] the dude with the big head. Look at
the [ __ ] cast on it. Christopher Lloyd. Wow, bro. Look at Samson. Oh, that's the dude. That's our boy from the Outlaw Josie Whale. These are my words of life. Yeah, that's also my words of God. How the [ __ ] He made three movies. This Outlaw Josie Whales and [ __ ] some other movie. He was in three [ __ ] brilliant movies. That dude. Yeah, that guy was in a lot of movies, bro. This movie is [ __ ] hilarious. that they'll make a bit of sense to me. This will never happen
again. That guy, by the way, is a normal guy in today's society. Who? Jack Nicholson. Yeah. Like, you couldn't ever get him in a mental health. Be like, "This guy's fine. Let him out." Like, there's more [ __ ] up guys right now than that guy that are attending bar on Sixth Street right now. And this movie starts politically incorrect. Like they they couldn't make this today like this. No. And I'm surprised they haven't tried to remake this movie. Well, you know, there the the guy who made uh um Home Alone said that he wanted
to cut Trump Trump from it out of the scene, but he's worried that he'd get sent in prison if he did it because he keeps getting aggravated. People annoy him. And I think they cut it out of it in Canada. I think the can Canadian version of uh Is it Home Alone 2? Yeah, Home Alone Too. Well, you know how many TV shows Trump did over the years? I've seen I see him once a [ __ ] month on something. They have to say that. They have to say that it's part of their liberal identity.
They have to be united. But like I was telling you that the people that I grew up liking and so do you, that's what I liked about them that they had to go somewhere else to become stars. And when they came back to the United States, they were like, "We're [ __ ] you in the ass." Now that's Clint Eastwood, Charles Bronson, Steve McQueen, not as much. He just wanted to [ __ ] everybody in the ass. You know, Steve McQueen was just like, "You're sucking my dick either way. I'm doing what I want." You
know, they don't even have that. Like when was the last time you The worst thing we've had in Hollywood in 20 years is when Brad Pitt made the movie with Angelina Jolie and he never came back. Like poor Jennifer Hston was waiting with flowers and slippers. That [ __ ] never came back. She's a temptress. The first one was when Steve McQueen took that girl from the head of [ __ ] Oh yes. And then did the movie under his [ __ ] nose. That that is something that they will cancel you. They couldn't can
they couldn't do nothing to him. Well, he was one of the rare movie stars back then. There wasn't that many movie stars when there's a an actual movie star in 1979. Like there's not a lot of those people. You need them to sell tickets. People don't know new people. They're not online, you know? You got to like know, oh, it's a Steve McQueen movie. And you go see it. But if like, oh, who's the who's the star of the movie? I never heard of the guy. [ __ ] this movie. Oh, look over here. There's
a Clint Eastwood movie. Let's go to see that. Like stars were everything back. everything. It's interesting because some great movies now don't have any stars in them. Like Mel Gibson when he made Apocalyptto, you don't know anybody in that movie. That's a great movie. It's a great movie. Great movie. And you don't know anybody in that movie. It's perfect. It's perfect because you really believe the characters that way. I don't have to go, "Oh, it's Robert Downey Jr. doing a great job pretending to be that scientist, you know." No, it's some guy that might actually
be a scientist, you know. Yeah. I don't know. But no, they didn't do anything to Steve McQueen. Charles Bronson, same way. He was a prick on those movie sets. They wanted everything. They took everything, Joe. Yeah. It just came up. We discussed it last time. They just They just got released the Steve McQueen riders from his movies. The Riders. Yeah. Well, riders are different. For people that don't know, that means like all the things that you get when you're on the set. Like, I want M&M's in my green room. I want, you know, Pig Floyd
albums, whatever. [ __ ] insane. His was insane. His suits had to be a certain cut. They had to cost a certain way. Well, he ain't wearing it. Steve McQueen. Some comics have that kind of [ __ ] where you have to have size 11 Jordans waiting for them. Yeah, but you pay for it. Comics are like, "Yeah, I'm not going in there to I got my size 12. You pay for it. What's the big deal? Yeah, they gave me some sneakers." No, you didn't. You bought those sneakers, stupid. It comes out of the price.
Yeah. They think that, oh, they bought me sneakers cuz I'm special and [ __ ] Yeah, but I think it's a thing where you want to be you want to be feel like you're being taken care of like Yeah. Even though you're paying for it like that. I don't need I'll bring my own sneakers. I'll bring my own sneakers. I'm going to show up and there's a box of SN. Oh, you got me white sneakers. I'm not going to perform cuz that [ __ ] started happening. Oh, really? Yeah. People were like, I want black
Jordans and all a sudden they're white. I ain't getting on stage. I get my black joys. Now they got to run around town. And I've heard people turn limos back in the day because it was the wrong color limo. I ordered a white limo. What is this [ __ ] And who [ __ ] drove you when you lived under that [ __ ] bridge? Just get in a goddamn [ __ ] car, [ __ ] sucker. People love making demands, right? Like it has to be this way or that's it. I walk. People love
making demands. And that's what happens in that [ __ ] town in Hollywood. And people go, "Okay, no, go [ __ ] yourself. You want that? Bring it yourself." And once you start doing that, that Listen, I understood what you said before about Austin and it makes sense to me now. It's like the day I took my daughter to school and there was moms hugging trees in Studio City crying. If I was a redneck, I'd show up with a shotgun that day and just shoot it and watch those moms just fly. That's where the guns
keep the liberals in check. Okay, that's when you come in and go, "You want to hug trees?" Boom. And [ __ ] start shooting off C dog. They were hugging tree right in front of the school where my daughter and Burch went. Why were they hugging trees? Because they were going to cut the trees down. We went to the school and the cops were there and women were hugging the trees, holding each other's hands, crying. This is why I had to get the [ __ ] out of there. Crying. And that's where a guy with
a gun would have been perfect. A big [ __ ] gun. You guys like trees so much. Boom. And those [ __ ] would have been running to that [ __ ] coffee shop crying. They didn't know what happened. [ __ ] those trees, Jack. That's what you need. a gun in California to tell these [ __ ] "Shut the [ __ ] up." You go on Facebook now and I see people I used to hang with in California and they're talking about other people and everybody's so talented and everything's so gracious and to work
with such a great bunch of talented individuals. Thank God they've let my creative juices work. Shut the [ __ ] up. Shut the [ __ ] up. What are you talking about? I need to smack you now or smack you later. It is. It's so much pretentious. Very. And that's what I don't I don't miss any listen at all. When I watch it in a movie now, I can't even stand small talk. Like that's what I didn't even know what small talk was. You know, it was like the night you did a show. This is
I'm talking I'm talking to you about Fear before Fear Factor. You did a show maybe at the Woolturn one night. Yeah. And we left a bunch of people there and they circled you like Anne Manny and a bunch of other people and they were talking to you about a deal or something and it was like, "Oh my god, your set was so great." And and you're supposed to stand there like, "Thank you." I [ __ ] hate that [ __ ] Yeah. They love kissing people's ass. We loved it. Oh my god. Mimi and I
loved it. Mimi, Victoria and I loved it. Yeah. We're so happy you invited us. And you have to sit there and go, "Come on, knock it the [ __ ] off." That was in the deal days. Yeah. I'd still be shopping around deals. Yeah. When they come up to you and talk to you, you had to be like [ __ ] hi. Yeah. So, how was that? How did that feel? Yeah. Well, you still connected to the system, and that was how I was making most of my money. So, I'd make some money from standup,
but I would make like a couple hundred,000 on these deals. That would be my year's money. And then I'd be working with some [ __ ] schlub making a sitcom that sucked. It never went anywhere. I did that for a couple years. So, I did that from like 99 to 2001 and then Fear Factor started. News Radio's on at 8:00. It's everywhere. My kids watch it. I watch it. I watch it. I watched my favorite episode couple weeks ago when he was playing the piano on the [ __ ] Phil Harmon was he was playing
the piano on the elevator and it kept opening up. Oh, that's right. Talk about that. Was a fun episode. That was a fun show, but that show show ruined me for other sitcoms. Doing a sitcom after that show. Like, why? What? It's not going to be the same. It's going to suck. You need the It's a like a very rare combination of people to put together a really good sitcom. That was a very good show. It was just I know that you told me over the years that they kept moving you and it never found
a home or something like that. They moved like nine times. The show really became popular after it was in syndication. That's when it became popular. It became popular when it was on, you know, 700 p.m. on ABC or whatever the [ __ ] it was, NBC affiliate, you know, when they were just showing the syndicated reruns. That's when it became popular. Way more popular after it was canceled than it was when it was on the air. One of the writers, uh, Lou Morton, every day we'd come to the to the table read, he would have
a a t-shirt, like a white t-shirt, and we'd write a number on it, and that number was our ratings. And one day he came in, it was like 85. I was like, 85? Really? It's like we're like 85th. We're the 85th show. That's good. Terrible. What? Good. Is number one. Oh, no. I just didn't know. I thought it was like a rating system. No, no, no, no. It's the ranked shows in the country. We were like 85 or 88, something like that. It was real bad. Real bad. We were like on the verge of being
cancelled. I know you're watching some good shows now. Yeah. I'm watching one show and I'll tell you what you watching. There's some people who are dangerous and then there's Helen Mirren. What are you watching? Oh, the 1923 show. Both of them. Oh, yeah. Mob Land. Mob Oh, yeah. I heard Mob Land's great. She's [ __ ] great. Yeah, I have not seen that yet. The Italian mafia movies. They're done. Really? Yeah, they're done. Diro just put Alto Nights Out. They took it out of the movie theater in two [ __ ] weeks. He put what
out? He put a movie called Alto Nights Out where he plays two roles. He plays Frank Costello and somebody else. A Vito Genevese. I don't know exactly. Somebody should have taken Dairo's keys away when he wanted to go out and do political speeches. Well, no. I think that Listen, you're not going to ban a movie because of his political beliefs. I know. No, but people aren't going to take him seriously because of his political beliefs. Well, the way he acted, he dropped some people. Okay. And I get it. But to make $2 million your first
week, that's not good. And then like three a million after that. And then they just yanked it. I tried to go just to watch it. It's called Alto Nights. Have you heard of it, Jamie? Nobody came and went. Came and [ __ ] went. The problem when these uh when people who want to be taken seriously as actors talk a lot about politics and talk a lot and give out opinions, they think that their opinions are very important and that it's important that they speak out. But the problem with that is like you ruin your
acting for other people who now think of the stupid [ __ ] that you've said instead of thinking you as this character. Let me hear a little of this. Let me talk. Hey, come on. Where do I start? You're going down a very dangerous road. And we ain't been down dangerous roads before. But that's the risk you take. Me? I take. But you're not where I am. I give to charities. I pay my taxes. It's actually good. Something. I put you where you are today. It's because of me. Mr. Good Citizen. You want to be
like them? Come on. You ain't like them. They own this country. They're bigger gangsters than we ever could be. All of a sudden, you want to be half in, half out, half a rageer. You can't have it both ways. You're either in or you're out. You must. That looks good. You telling you that looks good. I'd watch that. The movie is not bad. I'm telling you, it's because of Dairo talks too much. I think that we're not we're so out of going to the movies every Friday and every like they said, nobody knew it came
out. I didn't even know it came out. Well, co killed the movie theaters. Oh, it's it's a shame because they made movies way quicker out on streaming now. All I have to do is wait a month. I can wait a month. One month later, I can watch it at home. I don't have to like see somebody like texting people right in front of me with their [ __ ] phone blinding white people talking. What did he say? What did he say? Do you want any popcorn? Talking to I go to a show there. Not a
show. I've never seen anything like that. It's so I usually go to the last screening on Thursday night. Not a show. I mean, most movie theaters people are polite. No, very nice. Where I go, very [ __ ] I can't believe it. That risk that risk of one douchebag who [ __ ] it up for everybody. I don't I won't go see a popular movie. I'm not a a top raider like that. I like to go and see I see a movie, I go, you know what? I want to go watch that. Some movies I
could watch at home that I want to watch in the [ __ ] thing. Anything with 3D like Wicked or whatever, I go I take my mushrooms, I take my daughter, I sit there, she enjoys it, and I [ __ ] have a great time. Wicked was great. Wicked was great. The only thing was don't go on mushrooms. No, I was so [ __ ] up. The chick is black and green. I couldn't deal with that right off the bat. Where's the black people? Raise your hand. What the [ __ ] I'm feeling like an
racist in here. She can't be black and she can't be green. Then Ariana with no eyebrows. That killed me. She had like those blind eyebrows. I'm on [ __ ] mushrooms and this movie won't end. Whoa. It won't end. It's a long movie. It's a [ __ ] long movie. But I'm looking at her and she's having such a great time. When you look at your kids and they're having such a great time, you're like, I don't give a [ __ ] I enjoyed it. I [ __ ] I enjoyed the Barbie movie. How about
that? I never saw it. I enjoyed it. I went I went with my kids. They had a good time. I thought it was funny. Everybody was like complaining. It's, you know, it's political. It's against the patriarchy. Like, listen, here's my position. A movie is allowed to be political. Like if you make a good movie and it happens to have a political slant to it, I don't care. Is it a good movie? I don't care. I don't care. Like I you're not going to change my opinion in a movie. Like this is your opinion. This is
how you're going to do it. Like okay, so this movie is like a pro- feminism movie. People were saying they were complaining. I'm like, what do you It's a Barbie doll. Can we just make a movie? Nobody raised their [ __ ] hand and politic. That's all it is. But the thing is, everybody has to because they have to have a hot take on everything. Everybody has to have a hot take. There's a market out there of people where all they do is look for something to point out that's a disaster or a failure or
here's my hot take and why this sucks. And that's what they do. All they do is like find things that suck. And they very rarely talk about things that are awesome. No. Which is crazy because there's so much awesome [ __ ] out there right now. I hate all that [ __ ] You know what's great on uh Apple Plus? Slow Horses. Okay. Have you heard of it? You know what it is? No. It's uh it's Gary Oldman. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My wife watches that. My wife a British spy. It's [ __ ] tremendous.
It's [ __ ] great. Tremendous. Really good show. Uh I've been watching the one with John Ham. Which one? He's has a show John Ham where he becomes a thief in a rich neighborhood. Like Oh, really? He loses his job. Bro, there's too many shows. Yeah, there's too many [ __ ] shows. There's too many shows. You just can't. You can't watch them all. You want to watch a show that you shouldn't be on Mushrooms? Severance. I heard that's very well good. Anyway, yeah, it's a very good show. Don't watch that on Mushrooms, though. You'll
get [ __ ] up. I watched that movie with Demi Moore where they Oh, I heard about that. I didn't see it. Is that a show or a movie? It's a movie. That is the weirdest [ __ ] movie I've seen in years. It's a movie where like she gets young again and goes back and forth, old and young. Yeah. It was a little too deep. Did you see it, Jamie? No, I was going to see it. Want to watch It's like a Black Mirror type movie. And that just came back out, too. Black Mirror
did. Yeah, I heard the new one. Do you watch 1823 or No. Yes. You liked it? You enjoyed it? I enjoyed all of them. Love it. Yeah, I love I enjoyed all of them. Land Man's good, too. Seen Land Man. That's very good. Oh, funny. Yeah, that [ __ ] Billy Bob's the man. I love anything. They're shooting already. Yeah, right. They're down there shooting, I believe. So yeah, cuz they were looking for vehicles or something. I saw last week coming. Well, Taylor likes to do everything down here when he can. You know, he's got
that giant ranch out here, Taylor Sheridan. He's got the four sixes. He's got that ranch. And um you know, I mean, that guy can't lose everything. He does a really good job. Yeah. You ever met him? No. [ __ ] great guy. No, I have mutual friends that tell me you should meet him. I had dinner with him and uh Bert in Vegas recently. all our wives together um after the fights, after the UFC fights. And a bunch of my pool player friends came by and Gogggins. Gogggins was there with his wife, too. Great time.
[ __ ] great dinner. So much fun. We're all laughing, having fun. Good [ __ ] time. But Taylor Sheridan's great. Just the guy can't lose. And you know, he made Sakario, bro. You know, go watch that. I watched it. I love it. Watch that again. The first and the second one. Sakario was a [ __ ] banger of a movie. It was on TV the other day. I was like, "That's right. This movie's that's a banger of a movie." You know, it's a shame that I don't know, maybe before the pandemic had started with
like really bad movies. It's just a shame, you know? It really is a shame that we got to wait for shows this long. Like [ __ ] There's so much to watch though. Yeah. The Adams family never came back with Jenna Garcia. Was it supposed to come back? Yeah. Netflix never and I worked with one of the dudes and he goes, "Yeah, we already shot it. It's still [ __ ] been like three years." Why they by the time it comes back, my kid's going to [ __ ] not even remember. Well, she don't even
remember it anyway. Are they doing anything with it? Like, I don't I've never heard anything again. Huh? Why would they do that? That doesn't make any sense. Netflix is off the you know, they don't know. They They just Netflix has so much [ __ ] [ __ ] on there. They have so much so much. If I see one more Pablo Escobar thing, they got If you watch like a murder thing one time, forget it. You know, they're talking about doing the UFC on Netflix. Yep. Yeah. Apparently, uh I think the UFC's uh negotiation period
with ESPN ended. Ended. Yeah. So, so what that means is they could talk to other people. That [ __ ] thing that night when everything fell apart, that wasn't a bad night. What? Which night? with when the ball dropped, not this card, but the one before that when the pay-per-views when all the disaster started, it was about pay-per-views one night that nobody was getting the pay-per-view. UFC fighters [ __ ] the the app failed. Yes, the app failed. It was too overwhelming for the UFC, I think, cuz [ __ ] happens. But every this must
have been bad because what fight what fight card was that, Jamie, where there was a failure? Uh, I want to It would have been uh I don't Was I working that? How do I not know that that happened? I don't think you were working that one. Let me see. 3:13. So, two events ago, May March. Where was that? Where was it? Was that uh Adisagna or Anv decision over Pereira? Oh, okay. Okay. So, I was working that one. You did work it? Yeah, I was working that one for sure. It was Uncle Goliath when he
won the title over Pereira. So, the the pay-per-view, what happened? It went down or it was partially went down? It partially went down. I couldn't order the card. Oh, it was a bunch of [ __ ] going on. Then I went on Twitter and I saw Frankie Egg and a bunch of other guys, fighters saying, "What the [ __ ] is wrong with my just me?" And then I heard the riff raff that night and then the next day they were talking about and then Monday Dana was hot. I know he did something. He said
something about it. Well, I think in general the pay-per-view numbers are down as well because the casuals aren't buying it as much because you don't have first of all the UFC is not like boxing. Like a boxing pay-per-view is like, oh, Canelo's fighting in four months and then you get gear up and you buy the Canelo Canelo Alvarez pay-per-view. If you're a big boxing fan, you might buy one once every couple months. If you're like hardcore, you you're watching all of them. you're on Don and you're on ESPN Plus, you're watching every boxing match there
is, but there's not a lot of pay-per-views. The UFC has a pay-per-view every week or excuse me, every month. And then they have a fight every week. So, it's like getting people to shell out 70 bucks for this card. And also like some of the great fights are on the undercard and you already before the pay-per-view starts, you already have, you know, three and a half hours of great fights you could watch for free. And some of them, they're trying to lure you into buying the pay-per-view. So, some of the best fights are really on
the undercard sometimes, like guys who you don't know their names yet. There's always one good fight that I want to watch on the undercard. I go, I'm going to watch the undercard, two fights or something. Always. And then you guys start talking about the fights and then you get, you know, and then you order it. Yeah. I mean, the big fight clearly this last weekend was Vulcganowski versus Lopez. That was the fight I really wanted to see because I really wanted to see if Vulcanowski could pull it off. all-time great featherweight champion. One of the
for sure greatest fighters of all time. Shoeing for the Hall of Fame, but he's 36 and he got knocked out two times in a row and he's fighting this [ __ ] animal in Diego Lopez. It was a great fight though and Vog pulled it off. But the fight that I really wanted to see was Bryce Mitchell versus Jean Silva, right? Because Jean Silva is a [ __ ] dude. That guy looks like a world champion. He looks like he with a ch a dar. Yeah. Well, he choked him like a ninja choke. Okay. And
um was like a no no arm in with a dar you have the arm in and you cinch it up. That was just all neck and put him to sleep. He tapped and then he went out and to do and it just beat him from pillar to post the entire fight and was smiling and laughing and looked like he was never threatened and never in danger. just like he was on another level, like way above Bryce, like looked like a world champion. Like even guys that have beat him before that beat Bryce Mitchell before except
Josh EMTT who just KO'ed him with one punch. But like even Ilia Taporia, like he got to get a hold of him first. Like John Silva looked like he was never a fight. Like it almost like he was having fun. He was trying to get him to touch hands at the beginning of every round. He wouldn't do it. He's like, "Come on, touch hands." He tried. He's like, "Touch hands." He wouldn't touch hands. And then finally just put him to sleep. He's an animal man. That guy is uh that whole team apparently the fighting nerds.
I was talking to John Anick about this. He said they have data scientists that work for the team. Data scientists who analyze techniques and they like break things down like what's effective and patterns. They find patterns, patterns of opponents, what the person does, when they do it. Where are these guys at? Brazil. all the way in Brazil, bro. That's a team of [ __ ] savages. Who else is there? Kyle Baralio, who's one of the top 185 pounders who might be the best in the world. I mean, when when he fights Durkas Dupus eventually, we'll
see, but he's just storching that division. I mean, he's one of the best contenders in that. Then you have Mauricio Rufi, who's one of the baddest lightweights alive. Gigantic lightweight, tall and long, wheel kick Bobby Green into another dimension, right? You got that guy. You got Carlos Pes who's a [ __ ] killer. Stone cold Muay Thai killer who's really hard to take down and he's just 100% finishing rate in the UFC. I believe he just knocked down Neil Magny. Like he's he [ __ ] everybody up. He's he's a sniper. Like super like skillful
and slick Muay Thai guy. So their whole team is just killer killer killer killer is all killers. Just like a a team of like brilliant upand cominging killers. See, these guys are learning now. It's not just about training hard. It's not just about sacrifice. It's about thinking hard, too. It's about learning. It's about like really going over your game and like what what can you improve upon and how do we how do we make this better? How do we seal up this part of the game? Amazing. I think the guy that led that for me
was GSP. Oh, yeah. I was always very impressed with how every fight he showed up with something different. Yeah. While his opponent was still like, "Yeah, GSP is got skills, but I still got this right hand." Okay. You talk about your right hand. Always learning. He was always learning. He was in the city with the kickboxing guy or he was over Phil Nurse was with the Phil Nurse and the Watt. Yeah. And then he would go with um all the Greg Jackson guys. Wild Card. He would go over there wild card boxing. Remember when he
fought I think it was Josh Kachek and he was jabbing. Was that the fight where he [ __ ] broke the jab out and he had trained at wild card? Yeah, his his jab it [ __ ] Josh up so bad that Josh couldn't fly home. I remember that. I remember all that [ __ ] and that's what I liked about him. His training was all another time you know he you're watching and he's doing gymnastics. Yeah. Where's gymnastics in all this player game? Well, he just realized that gymnasts are so powerful because they have
such control of their body and he's like, "Well, I'm going to get better control of my body." So, he learned how to do back swimming, [ __ ] this, doing that. And meanwhile, you're still going, "Well, my jiu-jitsu game is elevated. This [ __ ] just went and worked on every part of his game, but focused on just one really." You know what's really crazy about him? He still does the same thing. He's really a martial artist. He comes to Austin all the time to train with John Donner and Gordon Ryan all the time. He's
here all the time. I see him like every couple months he comes down to train and then he'll go somewhere else to train and he'll go somewhere else to train. No desire to fight. He doesn't want to fight anymore at all. He's just a martial artist. He's so happy and content. He's like the best example of a guy who retired with millions in the bank and is living like his best life. He's a real martial artist. He really is. He just wants to learn and and grow. Like why would he come here and train with
Gordon Ryan? Why you train that [ __ ] animal if you're if you're not actually thinking about competing? But for him, it's just all about growing. It's all about growing and this martial arts journey that he's on for his whole life. It's really amazing. It's very cool. You know, when he he would come to uh 10th Planet Jiu-Jitsu and he would learn stuff from Eddie, too. He came down to learn the turning sidekick from me. Like, he just wants to learn from everybody. He wants to learn everything. He's always constantly seeking out. Smart. Yeah. Very
smart. Very smart. Very smart. And you'll see him. He's in all these different gyms. You see him. Oh, look. He's in Thailand. He's working with Muay Thai guys. He's over here. He's over there. He's just enjoying his life and training martial arts all over the world. It's incredible. Incredible. It's beautiful. Because the saddest thing for me is when a fighter stops fighting and they lose their identity. George has never lost his identity. He hasn't gone through some some weird phase where he doesn't know what to do with himself. I am not impressed with your performance.
That was one of the funniest things I've ever heard in my life. Yeah, that became a like a meme before memes. I was not impressed with your performance. Nicest [ __ ] guy in the world. Nicest guy in the world. And really smart, man. Really interested in all kinds of [ __ ] Like always like reading stuff and fascinated by things. Just just a a guy just a curious guy who wants to learn and he's just going through his life just having a good time now. He doesn't have to think about business, you know? It's
just training. It's kind of [ __ ] awesome. It's awesome. It really is awesome. It really is because like with no no goal in mind other than growth other than growth and getting better. And he's still rolling hard, man. I'm watching him roll with these guys. He's rolling with assassins, you know? He's still doing jiu-jitsu with like top flight black belts, man. Would you ever consider going back to Taekwondo? No. No. Just going to a school once a week and just going in there with a bunch of guys and throwing some kicks and [ __
] on my own. I No. No. You're not feeling me. What do you mean? Anybody can work out on their own. Could you imagine now at your age? Like I've been thinking about it. There's a a purple belt at my jiu-jitsu school. He's 68. Oh wow. He came from a [ __ ] shakon karate background. And he goes, "I teach in the Bronx every Wednesday night." He goes, "This was my school. I sold it, but I still go up there on Wednesdays. Come with me sometime." I'm like, "Wow, how cool would that be?" Just It
would be cool to take a class. That's what I'm saying. One time a week, like something that you What's the As long as you didn't have to spar? No. No. No, no, no. But you do those uh you know like when you do taekwond do they have one steps one step like those little those sushik they run I think they call where I throw punch. Yeah. It's drills and that that's what you need. You're not dog you're not going to [ __ ] you're not going to [ __ ] spar and go crazy but drills
are really important. They're really important and people don't like to do them because sparring is so fun. Same with jiu-jitsu. Like Eddie Bravo used to say that like drills are terri they're so boring, but if you can do them, it'll make your jiu-jitsu way better. Like the biggest leap that I ever got in my like in the beginning of my jiu-jitsu journey was when I became friends with Eddie. We would train in my garage. I had mats in my garage and we would just drill for like an hour and a half a couple times a
week. He was showing me a lot of his rubber guard stuff, like the early stuff, but we would just drill like different positions, how to escape certain positions, how to finish from certain positions, what to be careful of, and then we just go through paths. Like path was, you know, pass into half guard, push on the knee, move into side control, side control, head and arm, secure the arm, finish the arm triangle. And what would do is like if he was doing it to me, I would resist like 40% maybe. You know, you just kind
of like sort of resist and they secure it and you kind of resist and they finish it off. So it's like basically you're just you're doing it as if the you're doing the same pathway with the same things that a person would do to resist, but then they're not trying to really stop you. They want you to tap them. Like this is the idea of the drill. So I'm just I'll get my hand in, but it's just so that you could push my hand down and then and then lock it over. So Well, that's big
now. Yeah, drilling is everything. People are are flow rolling. Like people are selling it more. Even Tom Delas is like, "Dog, listen. It's the way to get better." It's really the way to get better. But the problem is you got to keep a [ __ ] flowing. And that's the problem that after a while you're like, and all a sudden, next thing you know, it's not a flow, right? Now you're going to try to catch now. And that's the problem. It always starts off with a flow for a minute and a half and then it
goes off the [ __ ] reservation. That's always the same with kickboxing sparring, too. when I was uh training at the Jet Center, there was this one dude that I used to love to train with. He was an older guy, so I was probably 26 back then, 27 maybe, and he was maybe like closer to 35, 40, like had some fights, just like to stay in shape and and we would spar. And he knew I was an actor, comedian, whatever. I was on a TV show and I didn't want to get hit too much and
he didn't want to. So, we would spar, we just touch each other. Yeah. And I knew he wasn't going to try to knock me out. But other guys, I knew like we're fighting. Like we're sparring. This is a fight. But with him, I knew it. And I got so sharp because of that cuz he and I would work out a couple times a week. And I I noticed like my timing and everything was like much sharper because I was going through those pathways and not tense, you know? I was going through those pathways. So sharpening
those lanes. So like punch, come, slip, counter, all these things were like flowing in my head because we weren't hurting each other. But it's so hard for young guys to understand that to get better is to like be playful with it. You want to like the Thai guys, they just because they fight every week. When they spar, they don't hurt each other at all. They touch and they they laugh like they're like playing a little game with each other. You ever seen tie guys? Yeah. Yeah. They have a good time. Like you watch like one
of the the best things to watch is like two elite highlevel tie guys just spar with each other. just just sparred playful light cuz they're joking around and laughing and they're touching each other, but they're really working on that timing. They're really working on those moves, working on like seeing what's coming, how to stop it, how to get in on them, but they're not hurting each other at all. You know, it's weird that I'm older and I love doing crazy [ __ ] Like, I love it. I don't have much in the daytime no more.
So, I'll try to catch a boxing class or jiu-jitsu and all that [ __ ] And jiu-jitsu is the toughest one for me. Like I haven't been to jiu-jitsu since November because I've been sick, you know? I had a bunch of problems and I was on antibiotics. I was having a hard time [ __ ] breathing. But I'm I'm I can't wait to go back. But now I'm going to go back and do it a little bit differently. Flow. Flow. A lot more flowing. There's one guy that'll flow with me. He's a cop. And uh
drilling more. Yeah. They have a blue belt class. It's basically a lot of drilling. You [ __ ] burn a lot of calories in that. Drilling is so important. But you have to go in the daytime, they roll a little bit more. At night, the classes are so shut that you don't have time to roll that long, right? So, I would rather drill a long time and then roll once and get the [ __ ] out of it. That's perfect for me, you know? So, and even with boxing, I don't when I go box, I
don't [ __ ] go crazy. I hit the speed bag a little bit, two rounds, and I hit the bag that moves around that burns a ton of calories. Then I hit the hard bag and I'm out of there. Seven, three, seven, eight, three minute rounds and I'm good. You know what I like to do? I like to put on the Wuang Clan and just [ __ ] that heavy bag up. I love it. I love the earphones. I love all And I'll tell you what else I got into it now that I'm older. Cuz
when I went to that hospital, it taught me a lot, Joe. It reminded me that I wasn't a kid no more. Like we [ __ ] around and we have a good time and we think we're bad [ __ ] but you want to stay healthy. Yeah. Ever since I come out of the hospital a month ago, everything's [ __ ] changed. Come out here, Joey. Get you on that waist. Well, get you [ __ ] We're going tomorrow. Come on. And we're going tomorrow. We're going. Are you busy tomorrow? If you're here, I'm not
busy. All right, let's go tomorrow. Let's go. Let's go. I like that blood thing they did. Yes. You got a IV bag vitamin? No, it was a little one. It wasn't a big IV trip. So, you're talking about a um stem cell push. Push. Yeah. IV stem cells. Yeah. I just got that uh Tuesday. I brought Rich Voss in. How was he? He was great. I love that guy today. I love him, too. We had a good time. We had a good time at the club, too. We see I see him a lot, you know.
Yeah. I see him every Wednesday. Oh, he's Jersey, too, right? Yeah. Every Wednesday we meet up and do a sweetheart. I love him to death. So, he's been having a problem with his rotator cuff. So, I brought him down to Brighgam. Brighgam's got this crazy thing. Let me show you this, Jamie, because it's [ __ ] bananas. He's got this crazy thing where he's got an AI that you ask questions to. Have you seen it, Jamie? It's [ __ ] nuts, right? Oh, yeah. Hey, can you tell me uh the history of testosterone and prostate
canc? Here, I'll send this to you, Jamie. So, Brighgam has this new beautiful facility where Waste Well is a great view. It's gorgeous. They moved. They have a new facility. Okay. They bought a bu a building and renovated it and it's it's incredible. But one of the things they have is this big screen with this alien and you touch the alien and ask it a question and it uses AI. Like so it has an AI large language model base. Press listen this. Press it. Hey, can you tell me uh the history of testosterone and prostate
cancer? My doctor said he's worried it's going to cause prostate cancer. What do you have to say? So the alien like thinks about it. The concern stems from a 1941 study by Huggin that suggested testosterone fueled prostate cancer. But this has been thoroughly debunked by modern research. particularly by Dr. Abraham Morgan Tyler. Current evidence shows no causal relationship between testosterone therapy and prostate cancer development. In fact, many men with prostate cancer have low testosterone levels. The outdated theory misunderstood how testosterone interacts with prostate tissue. And numerous studies now show properly monitored testosterone therapy is safe
for most men, even those with a history of prostate cancer in some cases. Now, check it out. Ain't that wild? That's amazing. That's a future. And it can answer any question. It could analyze your blood work. You could tell it, hey, you know, my vitamin B12 level is this, my testosterone level is that, my what would you suggest I take? What I suggest is a protocol of And it would just like rattle off things that you need. You need some niain in your system. What do you take magnesium before you go to bed? You know,
how much REM sleep are you getting per night? Are you monitoring that? And it start talking to you. Isn't that crazy? It's an app, too. It's on your phone. What were these people talking about last night at the club? They go on chat GPT or some [ __ ] You don't know what that is? No, I don't know. Nothing. Chat GPT is AI. It's like it's on your phone. Like you can ask it a question, you know, like uh I can like give me a good question. Um uh who was the composer of Swany River?
Who was the composer of Swany River? So, you see how my phone has all those rainbows on the outside like that? That means it's searching for the answer and boom gives me the answer. Can you go on chat dpt and tell me more about Steven Foster, the composer of Swany River? Bam. And then it goes on chat GPT. I'm an AI design assistant. Feel free to ask anything. Um, what Disney movies are the most racist? It's working with chat GPT right now. It hung up on me. The reason why I asked Joe, that is why
Chad GBT told me to go [ __ ] myself. Joe, it disconnected. One of the greatest episodes you were talking to me a couple weeks ago. We were talking about you watched the Gleon interview on 60 Minutes. So I watched a couple weeks later, you know, I watch the honeymooners every Saturday. Do you really? Every Saturday at midnight there. I I don't have time for anything else. I got to be home by midnight on Saturdays. Okay. And then the reason why I said Swani River to you is that is one of the best episodes that
Gleon ever did. He was going on the $95,000 question and you have to go up levels. Yeah. And they ask you questions. He picked music. So he had his buddy Norton get all the sheet music and Norton would play music for him and go, "Who is this?" And he would have to say, and then the Italian lady, Miss Manakotti, would come down and it was a great episode. But there's one scene where Norton would play and he'd go, "Norton, why the [ __ ] do you Here it is. Why the [ __ ] do you
play this?" Watch this. Come on. This is my last night to brush up on the songs. Now, let's not waste any time. Get going. All right. Will you wait a minute, please? Why must you always play Da before you go in and play the song I'm trying to guess? If I told you once, I told you 100 times. It's the only way I can warm up before I play the piano. A pitcher warms up before he pitches a ball game. I got to warm up that way before I play the piano. I hope I don't
have to tell you this again. Are you ready? Go ahead and play. All right. Now, go to the end so Joe could see it. So he goes, "Time's running out. Hurry up. You better take a guess." No. Play the song for him so he sees. $100. Are you ready? I certainly am. All right, Mr. Craden. For $100, who is the composer of Swany River? This face. Swany River. That's right. Swany River. Can we have a few bars of Swany River, Jose? That's Swany River. That's right. Now, who's the composer? Your time's running out. Hurry up.
You better take a guess. Oh, I'm terribly sorry, Mr. Craden. No, the correct answer is Steven Foster, but thanks so much. You've been a wonderful contestant and a swell sport. Goodbye, Mr. Cranon. His [ __ ] face, dog. The 60-minute interview was great. It blew me the [ __ ] away. It was great. Just listening to him talk. That was when he was just playing golf and drinking. He had that crazy golf cart that he would drive around in. And what's the book I read where he he taught Richard Prior how to smoke pot, like
how to hide it. They did a movie The toy, right? Didn't they do this? He taught him how to hide it. Yeah, cuz Richard Prior lit a joint up one day and he's like, "What are you doing? Come on. You got to have some class." So, how do you hide it? You know, under your hand and Oh, mix it with the cigar. He thought Richard was smoking it out. And Jackie Gleon goes, "What are you doing, man? Come on. Nice. Smoke it like this. Richard Prize like this [ __ ] taught me how to smoke
a joint. So he would tuck it away and he was 20 years older than Yeah. You know, Jack Leon was a [ __ ] beast, man. That guy partied. Beast gone. He did it. A lot of partying. He died fairly young, you know. How old was he? I want to say close to 60. But he I think it was a couple different kinds of cancer. How old was he when he died, Jamie? Check. Yeah. 71. Oh, was he? Oh, he's 71. Oh, that's not Which is still No, that's still the national was 74, right? Yeah.
I thought he died younger than that. No. Um, but yeah, hard living. Hard living. Do you ever see hear the story about him and Richard Nixon? No. Richard Nixon and him were getting drunk one night and Richard Nixon goes, "You want to see some UFOs?" And so he they get on Air Force One and they fly to one of the Air Force bases where they have this [ __ ] crashed UFO and alien bodies on ice and Jackie Gleason apparently becomes obsessed with UFOs after this. Has a house built in upstate New York that looks
like a UFO. His house was a flying saucer. He had a house built that looked like a UFO. And uh the story is unsubstantiated. It's hard to know if it's true, but it was like his ex-wife told it in some magazine, right? Um, but it it tracks it. It tracks with if you believe these people that say that there was some sort of a crash that they did recover, then they do have bodies. So, this is his [ __ ] house. He has a house built. That's one image of it, but there's other images looks
even more like a flying saucer. That wild that it kind of looks normal like a house there, though. The guy built a flying saucer house. Nixon and him got hammered. I'm hoping that's going to happen with me and Trump. But Trump doesn't get drunk. You imagine you're hanging out with Trump and he's like, "You want to see the UFO? Can you keep a secret?" Yeah. There he is hanging out with Nixon. And um they supposedly do have something that crashed and they supposedly do have biological entities that are on ice somewhere. This of course according
to these whistleblowers that work for the government and now we're talking about I just don't know what's real. It's hard to know and you talk about it you feel like a [ __ ] because it's like there's got to be something out there. Okay, we got to assume there's something out there. Whether or not I don't even know, right? But should we assume that that something's been here? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think so. Yeah, they've been here. Well, I would come here if I was from somewhere else. And I was like, what? You know, imagine
if you're like from some super advanced civilization that's completely abandoned war. There's no thievery. Everybody reads everybody's minds. There's no unfairness because they've worked all that stuff out. And it's just superior intellect because everybody's evolved for a million years past where we are now. And you get the opportunity to see what a breakthrough civilization looks like, right? When they're figuring out nuclear power, right? When they're figuring out flight and war and cell phones and [ __ ] like that. Like that would be like you and I going back and and going and visiting the real
Wild West. Like being in a like a gold mining town in 1830, you know? You know how nuts that would be? You know how [ __ ] crazy be one of the minor 49ers in 1849 go going all the way to San Francisco and these [ __ ] animals stabbing each other in saloons. Like you know what that would be like? That's insane. The kind of barbarians that took a chance with wooden wheels getting pulled by a horse and went across mountain ranges to try to get to the gold. That would be like us going
to visit that. Of course we would visit that. Of course. Like if you had a chance to see what it was like to see Christopher Columbus land in the Bahamas, to see what that must have been like, of course you would want to see it. If you could go literally back in time and see primitive humans. Well, if they're just like us, but they're like us millions of years from now. Of course they would want to visit us. It would be so interesting. You imagine if there was a planet where we could go where we
could see cavemen. We go. Would you imagine? [ __ ] mus an hour. Yeah, but it's uh well, you can see guys making [ __ ] arrow heads with with flint for the first time and strapping them to sticks, giant [ __ ] heads and big teeth covered in hair just figuring out tools. Oh my god, we would be fascinated by those people. The way I think about it is listen, since I'm a kid, we're talking about Martians and aliens, right? Since I'm [ __ ] Yeah. six, seven, I've been hearing about this. The moon
landing was in ' 69. Mhm. So I was six. So it started after that. Like I heard more and more about it. So what you mean to tell me is in 55 years we haven't found out more information about it. We know. We know what's going on. We know NASA's not stupid. They know something's out there. They play with us a little bit from time to time, but there's something out there, my friend. I think so, too. There's something out there. I think the other problem with the president knowing, you know, can they keep things
from the president? Of course they can. president is only there for four years and then he has to get in there again and if he wins he's only there for four more years. These [ __ ] people have 30-year careers, 50-y year careers in the intelligence agencies if they know something and they've known something since you know [ __ ] Gerald Ford. Why why would they tell you? Why do you need to know? We've already been hiding this from the population for so long. And those old-timers didn't need a what's that when you have to
sign something? NDA. NDA like NA whatever the [ __ ] NDA back then. There's no NDAs back then. So, there was something to it. Yeah, there was something to it. You know, you got that place in uh New Mexico, you got Hudson County, what I we discussed before with the Martians Landing. You have all these places that have a higher volume. I wonder what's number two in UFO sightings. I wonder what's number one. What's number one? Is it Hudson Valley? Yeah, Hudson Valley by the George Washington Bridge. That whole thing. That's crazy. I wonder what
number two, number three, and number four is. It's interesting that a lot of them are over near where the ocean is, cuz that's that's one of the big theories that they have bases in the ocean because the reality of the ocean is no one's looking. You know, if you have something on Earth, satellites can see it. Like, if you have something that's in the middle of Nevada in some deserted area and you have buildings, satellites can see that. They can see the structures, so you have to hide them. But if you have something in the
ocean, nobody sees anything. We we've only explored what what is the percentage of the ocean floor that we have explored. I think it's like 10%. I think it's somewhere around 10 maybe 20%. So that means that 80% of the ocean floor is undiscovered. We have no idea what's down there. And it's, you know, a mile, two miles deep in some spots. If you're from a super sophisticated civilization that's millions of light years away and you can come here instantaneously and you have the ability to traverse in these what they call transmedium craft which means they
can go through air, go through water just it creates a gravity bubble around it and go through everything. That's what they think these things are doing. That's what they can go 500 knots underwater just like nothing we have could do that. And if they have bases under the ocean, it makes sense that these sightings are all near the ocean. Just totally makes sense. A lot happens in the ocean. That ocean is stronger than what you [ __ ] think. Yeah. I love it. Going to a beach and just sitting on the beach and watching the
ocean. 2030. Seabed 2030. What they've mapped out. They've gotten 30% mapped. They're trying to get the whole thing done by 2030. Oh, really? Oh, interesting. Oh, what if they find a base? Yeah. What if they get down there and they find bases? What is all that stuff? What are those lines? I'm guessing that's where they probably sent their drones probably. You know, looks like looks like pool scrubber, you know. Oh, that's crazy. [ __ ] So, they're scouring the ocean floor to try to get them out. That's why the aliens are going to come out.
Wow, that's Hawaii. Whoa. Oh, that's not Hawaii's over here. It is. What's that? What are those islands in the middle? Is that Catalina [ __ ] Oh, I see. Oh, you were zoomed in. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, okay. See what this stuff is. Oh, I see. I think these little light colored brown spots are what's sticking up and the rest of it's underneath. M. Wow. I got to pee real quick. Go ahead, dog. We'll pause. Yeah, we'll be right back, folks. Woo. And we're back. What were we just talking about? Aliens and whatnot. And whatnot. Yeah.
You know, I feel that we know we're just not going to, you know, it's like everything else, man. We know who shot Kennedy. We're not going to release it. You know, we're going to play with us. That's what they do. I think that there would be uh I think even after all the alien talk and everything I think Americans couldn't really handle it. Well, there was actually a discussion this guy Hal Putoff who was a physicist that worked with the US government told me that during the Bush administration they actually wanted to talk about the
potential of disclosure to the American people. What will be the pros and the cons? And so they listed what could be disrupted. Well, the economy could be disrupted. Religion could be disrupt disrupted. Government could be disrupted. What would be the positive aspects? And they started looking at the positive aspects like scientific development, the understanding that we're not alone, you know, all and then they weighed it all out and the cons outweighed the pros by a significant number and so they decided not to disclose it. This is what Hal Putoff says. So he is a scientist
that's worked with the government for decades and he you know I had dinner with him and Jacqu Valet. Jacqu Valet is the guy who the character in Close Encounters of the Third Kind was based on the French guy the scientist. Jacqu Valet has been studying UFOs since like I think the 50s. Brilliant brilliant guy. He's written tons of books on on the subject. and the stories that he knows that he's aware of, the historical stories. What's really gets crazy is when they get into like the 1700s and the 1800s and the early 1900, they're the
same stories. The people are seeing the same things, the same kind of things are happening. These people, the people that are encountering the crafts and encountering the beings, they're reporting the same stories. They're real similar to the point where you're like, what's going on? And if it's real unique in like, you know, I haven't been I haven't seen UFO. I haven't seen aliens. You haven't? Jamie hasn't. But what if one of us did? Like if there's millions and millions and millions of people and one guy is [ __ ] walking his dog in the middle
of a field and all of a sudden this thing just lands right in front of him and no one's around and then these things get out and they look at you and they're talking to you with their mind and then they get back in their ship and they [ __ ] disappear. They zoom off so fast you you can't even follow it with your eyes. And then you're sitting there going, "What the [ __ ] do I tell anybody? Who's going to believe me? Who's going to believe this? I I should probably not tell anybody."
And then you're lying in bed at night and you're all freaked out because you can't believe you know something that other people don't know. You know the most incredible thing that not only are they real, but they can do things that we can't possibly do. They cannot be us. There's something different. It's a different life form. I think when they came here, maybe somebody painted them as green or whatever. To me, I feel that if they're here, they walk around looking like us. They're a they're a more intelligent life source. Like the movie Cocoon, right?
That's in my mind. And and to just I'm the type of guy I'll talk to you about. Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Yeah. Invasion of Body Snatchers. I'm the type of guy I'll talk to you about. But just talking to you just now about somebody the government telling me that aliens exist, I would it would knock me down because I know they do, right? But not really. But not really. But not really. I know they do, but not really. And that's I think with everything. Yeah. So it would even shock me a little bit to
find out, but I think that Yeah. Cocoon type people. Jacqu Valet is of that opinion, too. Like what's interesting about him is he really maintains scientific credibility after all these years despite like studying UFOs back in the time where if you studied UFOs, you were a crackpot. But everything he looked at was just based on logic. This is what we know and this is what we don't know. This is what we can prove. This is what we can't prove. And we estimate that there's a certain percentage of these experiences whether it's 5% or what that
are legitimate. There's a great number the the vast majority of things that people see in the sky are not UFOs. But I guarantee we do see things that we think is something else and it's a UFO. Yeah. I could see that more so. Oh yeah. People see the Saturn, they think Saturn's a UFO. They think, you know, they people see things too, you know. And then there's also weird phenomenon that's real like ball lightning. Ball lightning is a type of lightning that like juts around like a like a ball like a [ __ ] like
a giant softball of lightning just darting around the sky and then it goes away. And it's just it's just a weird form of lightning that is has been documented. But if you saw that, if you were in the middle of like New Mexico by yourself camping and you saw that, you're like, "Fuck, man." You think it's a fairy or something like that. Oh my god, man. Angels back here on mushrooms and you see ball lightning. Like, what the [ __ ] man? You're seeing traces behind the ball lightning. You would 100% believe and feel like
you came in contact with an angel. You would believe and feel like something from another planet communicated with you. You'd probably fill your head up with all this important [ __ ] that it told you that you have to tell people. I've got to tell people, man, we're doing it all wrong. We're all one, man. We're all one. We can't be fighting these wars. It's so foolish. And they want us to know. They want us to take care of mother earth. Meanwhile, you just saw ball lightning while you're on mushrooms. You know, when I lived
in Boulder, I got into a a hole one time. I was talking to some guy and he was talking to me about mermaids. Oh, god. At a coffee shop. Yeah. And it drove me [ __ ] crazy. It drove me so crazy. I didn't have a computer back then, but I actually had to go to the library and I went down a hole. And maybe 10 years ago, I went online one night and got high and was reading about mermaids. Like, that's something I believed in. The dumbest thing about mermaids is they have a fish
from the waist down, right? But weren't they actually spotted in the 1800s somewhere? Or is this a lie? It don't even make any sense. Like, fish don't have sex, you [ __ ] idiot. That means it's the most beautiful woman in the world from the from the waist up and all she do is give you [ __ ] because fish don't have sex. That's okay. The That's not my problem. I'm not I'm not looking to have sex with a chick. But people are they want to fall in love with a mermaid, but like that's the
craziest person to fall in love with. Is there any evidence? No. Come on. No. No. They're manatees. These people saw manatees. Probably their eyesight sucked cuz they all had scurvy. You know, they were all [ __ ] starving to death. They all had syphilis. Their faces are falling off. these rotten scumbags that are on these boats together and then they they're so horny that they want to [ __ ] manatees. They see manatees in the the foggy water flopping around. I swear it's a girl with a tail and they want to hop off. They're like
like a guy in the desert that sees an oasis that's not there. I see water and you're just trying to drink the sand. That's what it is. It's guys got to be a mermaid. So these horny scumbags from like Europe in the 1500s. these monsters that were on this boat together for 4 months and they they think they see women in the water. Damn it. You just ruined everything. They were probably on opium. They probably had syphilis. They were drunk. That's why you got to love the '8s. Animals. That's why you got to love the
'8s cuz two guys actually went into the studio and go, "Look, we got a movie about a [ __ ] guy who falls in love with a mermaid." With a mermaid. And the guy's like, "Come on. How you going to do that? And all a sudden it's [ __ ] Let me tell you something. That's another good movie. Do you know Joey, that's a good point. Like the this is one of the reasons why America became what it is is that everybody who moved here initially took a crazy chance. You ought to take a crazy
chance. You ought to get in a boat in the 1700s and make your way across the Atlantic Ocean. You have no idea if storms are coming. And there's no [ __ ] weather.com. You You don't even know what it looks like over here cuz they don't have pictures yet. Someone's going to draw you. This is what I saw when I visit Maryland. This [ __ ] thing. I told you there's a [ __ ] mermaid. You [ __ ] Look at that [ __ ] fake thing. He sewed a fish bottom onto a monkeykey's body
or something. Oh, Jesus Christ. That's hilarious. That's one of the reasons why America became so powerful. Two, the two things, the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights, like that stuff, all the laws that gave you freedom of speech, the right to bear arms, right to practice your own religion, all those things are incred. But also the type of people that moved here, crazy risk-taking [ __ ] that were willing to get their kids and get on a boat and make it across the country. So everybody that came over here was just [
__ ] gung-ho. They're all wild folk, wild, dangerous people trying to get jobs on the East Coast. That's still to this day why the East Coast is so crazy, so chaotic, and so fun. Cuz that that that was like the echoes of these pioneering monsters that travel their way across the ocean. They're crazy people, desperate for anything. Europe just sucks so bad. Like, we got to get the [ __ ] out of here. whether it's from Spain or Ireland or where they boats just boats Italians boats and then they make their way across the land
and then you know cover the whole thing eventually and in a few hundred years it's a crazy story man and we got to be careful of this place. You can't sacrifice the things that made us so great in terms of our freedom just for political gain because then we're going to give the whole thing away and we could go the same way Iran's going. The same way they they were they had a like a European style country and now it's a dictatorship and now it's Islamic and you know there's no getting out of that now
without some crazy revolution, right? It could go that way anywhere, man. If there's people anywhere on Earth in 2025 living under the thumb of tyranny, there can be people here. It just a bunch of things have to go wrong. We saw a few things go wrong during co that should have woke a lot of people up that the fabric of society is more fragile than you think it is. And that's why the founding fathers are so wise. They put into play protections to keep tyranny from taking over. They had a bunch of checks and balances
that you can't get through. You You don't have ultimate power like a king. You have Congress, you have the Senate, you have, you know, you have the Supreme Court. It's got to be like that. You can't change that just because you want your side to win. Everybody has to be aware of that. Everybody gets shortsighted. Democrats get shortsighted on this. Republicans get shortsighted on this. You can't have that happen. It's not good for anybody. It's not good for us. If you think your opinions and your beliefs and what you know is is more beneficial to
the American people, state your case. That should be the only thing we do. These people should be able to state their case. Explain how what you can do. Do we should demand that and all that other [ __ ] Stop it. Just get rid of it. Get rid of all of it. Get rid of all of it. No one should be pro crime. No one should be letting people off the hook for violent crimes. No one should be like letting gang members live in some sanctuary city from another country that come over here just to
cause havoc and create crime because it we have weak policing and because we let them in. Like no one that we no no side should want that. No side should want the country to be more dangerous, you know. And no side should want people deported to El Salvador prisons that aren't really gang members either. No side no side should want no due process. No side should want the ability of the government to like imagine like you're a person who's over here illegally, but you're not a criminal. You're just a guy who doesn't have paperwork and
then they send you to a prison somewhere. Someone decides because of your tattoos that you're in a gang. So now all of a sudden you're in a prison in another country and you haven't even been to trial. We can't let that happen either. You know, did you see that [ __ ] prison where they took them in Nicaragua? Whatever that place in El Salvador. El Salvador where they house them 40 in that's [ __ ] insane. That's crazy. That's insanity, brother. And apparently they have unmarked graves. They, you know, people die, they get strangled, whatever.
Take them to the back. Unmarked grave. You know, it's it's complete dehumanizing of people as a overcorrection to having too much crime and gang violence. So, too much crime and gang violence, then you throw all due process out the window, round everybody up, throw them all in jail. And if you're going to do that, a certain percentage of them are pro I mean, it's going to be effective. You're definitely going to curb crime, but you're also going to victimize a few innocent people, a certain percentage of innocent people, like undoubtedly, especially if you have no
due process. Listen, man, we know that like this is this can't come to America, you know? And if we're sending our prisoners over there, how much different is that than the other stuff that we hate, like sending jobs overseas where people work for a dollar a day and don't get healthcare? We would never allow that in America, right? Well, we would never allow this kind of a prison in America either. So, should we really be involved in sending people to this kind of a prison if they're from another country? You know, it's a it's a
it's an interesting question. Do you think that is an interesting I think it's there's something there is a bit of a problem, right? If you come from one country and then they put you in a prison in another one without a trial. If they say you're a gang member and you're in MS-13, you come from Mexico, you make your way into America and all a sudden they put you in El Salvador prison, you're like, "Yo, what happened here?" Now that's They took a lot of they took a handful of people that had weird tattoos and
stuff like that. That's what I've heard, but I don't really know the truth yet. No, you don't know the truth. Because, you know, they they were saying that they keep talking about this guy in the mainstream media saying he's a Maryland father and this and that. But then that Tom Hman guy says, "No, he's a member of MS-13." And so, okay, who's telling the truth? And they were saying that if he got deported and came back into this country again illegally, we would round him up again and do it all over again. We didn't make
a mistake. Okay. Well, who's telling the truth? All right. Well, is he just a man that's mistaken identity and they Where's his police record? Yeah. Right. Let me see his police record. If the guy has a tattoo and he's got no police record and he's got a family and a wife and it's like remember we used to take me for chicken. Which place? By your old house 20 years ago. He used to always invite me for chicken. Oh, chicks. The Spanish guy. Yes. Oh, how good was that place? He had that that woodfired rotisserie. Absolutely.
Only pay cash. No credit cards. That's what killed them. So, think about this. What if he had that for 20 years? Great guy. Because I always went up there with you and he was very nice to us. Great guy. What if they came and got him because he didn't have a green card? Uh, he was he was illegal. No, no, no. But he was illegal. He was legal. He was legal. You know, there's people He was second generation. Okay. There's people that came and you know, they're here. Before I send them Actually, I think he
was more than second generation. Yeah. I want to make sure that this guy had roots in the community. I'm not going to just put him on a [ __ ] PL. Yeah. But the I think what you got to do is just get rid of criminals only. But the only way to know if someone's a criminal is to have due process. But it's not over a [ __ ] tattoo. No, it's due process. All I want cuz there's a lot of kids get stupid tattoos and then you have them for you know when I went
to Japan um I couldn't work out in the gym in the hotel. They made me go up to my room and put a long sleeve shirt on cuz of my sleeves. You can't have open tattoos and work out at like a nice place cuz it's connected to the Yakuza. Yeah. So like you you have to you have to follow their rules, you know? They they demand that you follow the rules. That's crazy. Yeah. I can't I can't throw somebody back in the [ __ ] prison like that just because of a tattoo. I got to
see something. I got to see something. He did something to disrupt the system. Yeah. I just see the thing is I don't know. I really don't know. I don't know the the truth of these cases because you get a a biased take from one side often times and then you get a biased take from the other side and they're duking it out to to shape reality for you. Now in ' 85 I lived in San Francisco and I teamed up with a bunch of Cubans that came in 79. the Mario boat lift and you know
you went over there every day and I had to buy the old guy, the guy that ran the corner, I had to buy him a little bottle of rum, a half pint, and they would let you operate your game, whatever your game was, selling weed, whatever. But my point of the story is that I remember this specifically, but from the time I got there to the time I left, there was probably 80 Cubans on the block, maybe 20 of them got arrested. In those days, you got arrested, you got deported like the following week. If
you got arrested, they put you in jail. If you didn't have paperwork or you came in that Cuban thing, they would take you, right? Immigration would come get you within 72 [ __ ] hours and you'd be right back in Cuban. Fidel would shoot you. See, it's one thing if you arrest someone for a crime and then you deport them. I get that. But it's another thing when you're rounding up people cuz you think they look suspicious. like during the first Trump administration, there's this dude who was a contractor who was doing something from a
house and uh he was uh army veteran. I think he was in for 20 plus years um and worked at a management position at a big construction firm. So he had like a prestigious job. He was like a legit guy. So he's at Home Depot and he's dressed nice, you know, polo shirt on, nice slacks. like it looks like a guy who has money. These ICE guys pull him over and demand that he show them their paperwork and you know he's like what the [ __ ] are you guys doing? And he says that to
them and then he pulls out his uh his you know army ID and uh you know his his driver's license like you can't do this. You can't just come up to people goes I'm a [ __ ] American citizen. He goes, "I was born in America and I served my country for 25 years and you [ __ ] idiots are just gonna harass me in the parking lot because my family is of Spanish descent. The [ __ ] away from me." And you know, he was hot and he came to the house right from there
and was telling me about this. I was like, "God damn." Cuz here this guy is like gentleman businessman, like sweetheart of a guy, wonderful to talk to, great to do business with, have a conversation with him, great guy. They just looked at him cuz he's brown. Like that's it. There's no way you could make any other way you're going to point to that guy and think he's an illegal. That guy's driving a brand new Silverado with a construction logo on the side of it, shiny clean car, polo shirt, slacks, clipboard in hand. [ __ ]
you. But that's what I'm worried about. I'm not worried about guys that get arrested, dog. I was worried when they came to Jersey. I didn't go out that week. I didn't do much. I'm a DS. I don't I'm glad they didn't deport you. I didn't. No, but you never f Listen, Right. But if you did If you did get arrested for a crime, you probably now would say, "Yeah, you should get deported." Like, if you did a violent crime. Yeah. Yeah. Take me back. But there's a difference between getting arrested for a violent crime and
just going to Home Depot cuz you're brown. That's That's crazy. And on this hall, this ice hall, listen, you're picking up I don't know how many thousands of people, correct? How many people would they pick up on this hall? I do not know. They ship back. I do not know, dog. You're going to have a couple clerical errors. Well, you're going to have always if I listen more than even the computer will pick them. Yeah. You know, it it's just a clerical error. But there's also just be big enough to say we made a clerical
error. Don't keep saying that I know you're a gang member because you got a [ __ ] tattoo on. Well, the the thing is like that we don't know what's correct, right? But there's not just clerical errors. If you don't have due process, you also have the potential for people to potentially falsely accuse someone on purpose just so they could arrest them because they don't like them or they have a bad business dealing with them or there's some reason why they want to send this [ __ ] to show him to El Salvador. People are
crazy. They do [ __ ] like that all the time. If you're just rounding people up and you this guy that you [ __ ] hate happens to be from Nicaragua and you just [ __ ] sick sick the dogs on them. If you got a hotline when people can call and rat on people, people are rats. There's a lot of rats. Especially if you just have a wild number that you can call wild number to turn people in. Remember during COVID like they were they were giving people rewards for turning people in for having
parties in LA and the mayor was saying normally snitches get stitches but now they get rewards. Do you remember that? Yeah. That [ __ ] mayor that they had in LA during the entire time. I don't even remember. He was such a Los Angeles Los Angeles. Oh, wasn't that guy? It was Yeah. My favorite thing was when Black Lives Matter protested in front of his house. Like you're never woken up, [ __ ] Well, this is my problem. This guy. Well, yeah, that guy. What the [ __ ] is his name? Oh god, what a
tool. says it. See, it's I think it's in the beginning. Make sure that everybody continues to let us know where those folks are. If you've observed recurring violations of the safer at home order, please continue to let us know at coronavirus.lacity.org/business violation. You know the old expression about snitches? Well, in this case, snitches get rewards. We want to thank you for turning folks in and making sure we are all safe. You should go to jail for saying that. I'm going explain something. You [ __ ] due process has been my problem since all this [
__ ] started. And it started with even the cancel culture. Okay. Due process. You got to come at me and let me know everything. Just cuz you opened up your mouth. I said that 22 years ago at a party I kissed you. I tried to kiss you. That ain't good enough. That just ain't good enough. Well, I went home and called my girlfriend Diane. We'll get her on the [ __ ] stand, too. But I don't I believe in due process. I'll do whatever time you want me to do. Prove that I did it. Just
don't open up your [ __ ] mouth. Absolutely. But when you have something like I'm asking for you to turn people in for anything, people going to go nutty and start ratting on people. That's just what they do. You can't get away from that. You can't. Snitches get rewards. Like if you have that for immigration, you got a real problem. You got a real problem. Because there's legit scumbag racists out there that'll find people and start targeting them. People SWAT people all the time that you know what that is? They [ __ ] call 911
and say someone's being held hostage at Joey Diaz's house at gunpoint and then the SWAT team shows up and you might not know what's going on. So you might pull out a [ __ ] gun and get shot. Yeah, I've heard of that where college students are doing it. Somebody doing it. People are doing it all the time. All the time. Yeah. No, it happens. There there was a bunch of uh conservative um online people that were getting swatted recently. It's wild [ __ ] dude. You know, you give people this ability with like social
media or even more so if you can like anonymously tip people that people are immigrants here illegally. Like boy, that's going to be a problem if that ever happens. And that could just be a woman who owns a [ __ ] fruit stand and a Mexican owns a fruit stand down the corner and she could just call and go, "Listen, this guy's illegal." There's people that are excited that people are getting deported. Like, be [ __ ] careful. Be careful what you wish for. You don't want this more people searching for people to lock up.
And then here's the thing, like any other business, once you start getting numbers, you don't want those numbers to drop off. You don't want the job to go away. You know, you got a quota, right? If you got a quota, there's if there's a I don't know if there is a quota, but if there's a quota for how many immigrants we got to send back, you got to have a problem cuz then now you've made it a game and now I'm trying to score points. And if Joey gets 30 guys, I want to get 50
guys. [ __ ] Joey. I got 50. I think a few of them might not be guilty, but [ __ ] it. Who cares? Who cares? I got I hit the bonus. Cadillac. I hit the bonus. Yeah, [ __ ] them. They should all go back anyway. Agreed. Agreed. Yeah, there's a lot of [ __ ] idiots in this world. There's a lot of people that they're shortsighted and by giving if if there is I'm not saying there is a quota, but if there is a quota, you're giving people a game to play. Now, you
don't want to play games with people. Well, I think even on ticket quotas, there's a percentage that they know they're going to get beat on it. Like, uh, yeah, if I give you 10 tickets, eight of them are going to be good. Two of them are going to be he's gonna come in with an attorney and fight this. and the wind was blowing and you know I always said that like what would they do? See, this is a problem with the government that they exposed with this department of government efficiency. And I had heard about
this before from my friends were that were in the military that like if you get a budget for the year, if you don't spend all of that money, your budget's going to be reduced next year. You don't want that to happen. So, you spend money wildly, completely inefficiently. And I I think that's part of the problem that we're facing here is like they don't want to lose out on any of this money. They've been getting this money this way for so long. You're right. If they don't use it, that's right. The budget goes down. Yeah,
the budget goes down. They call that something. What is it called? [ __ ] I don't know. What is it called? What is it called? I had a point, but I forgot what my point is. But it's just that, you know, we're in a weird time here where uh people are arguing about whether or not we should abandon core principles that made this country great. Like very intelligent liberal people with degrees are talking about the First Amendment should have restrictions. Like no, no, no, no, no. You don't get to decide. You don't get to decide
because without free speech I don't know who's right and I can't just go on narratives. It's too that's what a that's how religions work. That's how cults work. They make you go on a very specific narrative and you can't go outside the lines. If you want to the human race to evolve, if you want people to evolve culturally, if you want people to communicate better, they got to be able to say whatever they want. And then you decide if you want to communicate with people that speak differently than you. And if you think that they
have an egregious position, you're allowed to say something about it and you talk about it and everybody has to figure out who's right and who's wrong. And unless that's able to go on, you're never going to get to the truth. And if you just like cut that off for things that you find offensive, the problem is maybe I don't find it offensive and you can't decide what I can take in and not take in. You're not allowed to because I don't know you and you don't know me. This is nonsense. Like you got to give
human beings the ability to discern for themselves. The only way for they them to truly do that is they got to be able to communicate openly. And they were trying to stop that during the Biden administration. They were putting the [ __ ] brakes on all kinds of [ __ ] that people are allowed to talk to. And everybody's like, "Yeah, we got to stop this information." Like, you're you're signing your own [ __ ] death warrant. You don't even know it. You're giving away the only thing that we have left. taking a vitamin. It's
called uh cardio nad. I'm taking something else that's called like colon. They gave it to me after my lung thing and my lung feels a lot better. You know what the doctor told me when he told me to take the one supplement? What? They took it off the market during CO. Why' they do that? Because it's such a great lung supplement. Like I feel a lot better since I've been on it for five weeks. They took this off the internet and everything. They shut down their website for three years. Oh my god. So I That
sounds so crazy that if you had said this to me before co I would like Joey's crazy. Stop talking like that, man. I was so pro- pharmaceutical drugs back then, like as the cure all to everything and modern medicine and vaccinations are so important. And CO woke me the [ __ ] up when I found out that they were trying to stop doctors and take away their licenses if they prescribed ivormectin. take away your license. If you just prescribe off label a drug that people say is beneficial in certain trials, but you're for some reason
you're not allowed to do it. For the first time ever, doctors are prohibited from prescribing something off label that has no negative side effects. It's never happened before. Never happened before where there's a a public SCOP where they're trying to pretend that it's horse dewormer so nobody will take it. It's bizarre. And they did it right in front of our face. And they just did it for money. And the [ __ ] media went along with it. And so did the liberals. The liberals went along with it. And they parroted out everything they say. Safe
and effective. If it saved millions of lives with no li people are dropping like flies to the left and the right of them. People are stroking out on the subway. And everyone's pretending that nothing's wrong. Everyone's pretending this drop in all cause this increase in all all cause mortality isn't crazy. That's not weird. It's not weird that cancer is on a skyrocketing rate. That's not weird to you. Everyone's pretending. And if you bring it up, you're a kook. They tricked everybody into being the cop. Everybody is calling that Garcetti hotline. Everybody's a little rat. They're
all little rats. They're little rats working for the man and they'll rat on each other and then if something happens to them because of it, they keep their mouth shut because they don't want to hear it. So they like do the work of the man for the man cuz they're suckers. Isn't that wild? And that that what we're talking about is the problem with this disclosure of aliens. Those people are going to fall apart. The people that fell apart in COVID, oh Jesus, they're going to be wearing silver jumpsuits and sucking alien dicks the moment
those guys arrive. They will jump on team alien. They'll be rounding up people and using us for slaves. They'll do whatever the aliens asked. They'll be like vampire familiars. Remember those where there was like a guy wasn't a vampire but wanted to be one, so he'd do anything the vampire asked. That's what those [ __ ] faces would do. All those all the people that got nine boosters, all those morons, they'll they'll be like on team alien 100%. It is imperative that the human race perish. It's imperative. We're a blight on the world. And the
Anunnaki are going to help us. Those [ __ ] idiots. Let's sell us right down a river. It's crazy what's going on in the world tonight, my friend. It is. But there's It always has to be crazy so we realize it's crazy so people snap out of it. like this is the this is a part of society. It's like it there's not a linear path to success. What happens with societies is things go really well and then they go terrible and you either adjust or you don't. And if you don't the civilization dies and then
a new one emerges but if you do then you recover and it's like how many times can you do that? How long can you keep this [ __ ] thing going on? Because you're going to have like great prosperity which makes soft people, you know, hard times makes hard men. Hard men make soft times. Soft times make soft men. Soft men make hard times. And everybody knows that. That's what it is. It just is get it go. And it's just a matter of recognizing that it's happening. So you course correct, which is why everybody's leaving
California. They're not course correcting. They're going into madness. And they're like, "No, we're progressive." And no, no, you're going into the rocks. No, no, no. The rocks protect us. No, you're going to die. You're going to hit the rocks. It's going to be over. Just like there's no more Rome. Is going to be no more LA. like you [ __ ] morons, right? This the the world is littered with civilizations that lost their way. You can go and find the ruins everywhere. You know this they're gone. They went away. That's how it happens. Stupid. And
you're doing it right now. And we either recognize that or we don't. And if we don't, it's not good. But I think we will. I think we have uh a different, you know, a different way of communicating now because people can talk so much online. You're going to get a lot of stupid [ __ ] online. You get a lot of dumb things online, but you're also going to get a lot of conversations that make you think, that make you go, that actually makes sense. Like, why are we assuming that the way we're doing it
so far and the way we've been doing it is the only way to do it? What is wrong with this system? How do we get the money out of it? How do we get money out of politics? How do we get the number one corrupting factor out of figuring out what's best for all of us? How do we do that? Smoke weed, eat mushrooms, talk to aliens. That's it. I don't get involved in none of that [ __ ] It doesn't bother me. I do sometimes when I think about it cuz I do I go
down roads. I don't want to think about it. I want to just enjoy my life. And I'm scared for my daughter in the future. Everything else I got to [ __ ] take a chance every goddamn day. You know what I'm saying? Yes. Well, that's also one of the benefits of a society with children. A society with children wants to make sure that the future is safe. Um, a society of people without children making rules don't give a [ __ ] about kids. And there this some people are actually openly disdainful of children and then
they get into positions of government and power. That's not good. Um, I think something happens to you when you have children that I think is an important biological sort of spiritual developmental cycle. There's something that happens to you when you realize this little person you love more than life itself and you're taking care of them now and then you want the world to be a better place and then you start thinking, "Oh, all these people around me used to be babies. They used to be b this is what we're all on this weird journey and
like maybe we could all be a little nicer to each other." You know, if that doesn't happen to you and you don't have kids, you don't have something that you love more than life itself. Yeah, it's a different that's a different kind of thing. And if you want power when you're that person, that's a different kind of thing, too. And especially if you're into war, if you're a war hawk and you don't have any kids, like Jesus Christ, you you're willing to send other people's kids overseas to die for some nonsense and you don't even
know what that is like. That's kind of crazy. So, we're in a society right now where we have a except for Elon, we have a population decline. People aren't having as much babies as they used to. It just doesn't seem like it because there's so many people, but it's like a when they look at the numbers for the future, we're in a kind of a weird population collapse thing. Like Japan is [ __ ] Have you seen any of that stuff on Japan? See if you can find anything on Japanese population crisis. They're having so
few children in Japan that like in three generations they could be in real trouble. Like the number of people that will have uh a grandchild right now is significantly lower than it ever has been before. I ask you a question. Yeah. The [ __ ] it got to do with me? I don't give a [ __ ] about the Japs. What the [ __ ] is wrong with you, Joe? Well, I think about it with us because I think about it with like civilizations collapsing. I think about it what we've been talking about the whole
day. Yeah, but we don't have to worry about that. I know. I know. I know. We don't have to worry about [ __ ] too much. You're right. You're right. It's the first podcast I'm done with. I'm scared. You know what I'm saying? What the [ __ ] is wrong with you? You're right. Enough with this [ __ ] You're right. And politics. Enough. Co is over. If you took the [ __ ] needle, [ __ ] you if you didn't. Now they just found out that [ __ ] uh the flu shot don't work.
I could have told you that 25 [ __ ] years ago. Work. It makes you 25% more likely to get the flu. And I'm a GED type of [ __ ] [ __ ] So knock it off. I hate all this [ __ ] I'm scared. You know what I'm saying? The [ __ ] I'm scared too. Yeah. About Japanese. Listen, man. That's what the problem is. We're worrying about This is what the internet [ __ ] us. That's true. This is why we have retards walking around believing everything because I forgot what I was
going to tell you. The internet [ __ ] us. The internet [ __ ] us. It's too much information. It's like this. I was in the hospital and I get on a [ __ ] elevator and there's two, three doctors, you know, half a [ __ ] in my world, okay? And they're like, "Oh my god, we can't wait till the Kennedy report comes out." Well, how is it going to make a difference in your world? It's like these idiots with the Epstein list. How is it going to make a difference in your world if
Tom Hanks is on that list? I'll tell you, do you not have to go to work tomorrow? Do you have to do all the same [ __ ] It doesn't. That [ __ ] doesn't matter to me. I don't give a [ __ ] who's on the Epstein list. I don't give a [ __ ] who went to Diddy's house. It's got nothing to do with me. But in today's world, because of the internet, it makes us think it's got something to do with us. Had nothing to do with me, man. It's a show. That's
what it is. What's the [ __ ] show? I don't want to watch that show. So now I got to wait here. 60 years we've been watching the same footage. He got hit. It clocked back. You know, Lee Harvey out. Now we want to really [ __ ] with these [ __ ] peanut nimble-headed dummies that are like, "Well, I want to see what's on there." Then two days later, the Jews did it. Yeah, believe me. Just worry about paying your [ __ ] credit card bills, you [ __ ] idiot. That's what you should
worry about. Did you see what happened this year in this country? [ __ ] millionaires are selling off [ __ ] property before to pay taxes to get capital. Are you [ __ ] kidding me? And people were worried about the [ __ ] Epstein list. It's like, how is it going to change your life who [ __ ] Tom Hanks was [ __ ] in the ass? Who doesn't matter? And do you really care at the end of the day? Do you really care about that 16-year-old girl? No, you don't. So, shut the [
__ ] up. Nobody cares. It's just a [ __ ] show. It's a show. It's a show. It's like I told you about LA. You know, I was It's a compelling show. What's that [ __ ] show with the crazy stoner guy, Seth Rogan? He just Oh, I haven't seen it. The studio. Okay. Not a bad show. Not a bad show at all. But I was watching that show and it let me realize what I hated. Short small talk that [ __ ] we were talking about before where people just like well the other day
a contractor came over. I love this guy came over to my house going to do the garage and there was a moment of 10 minutes that it was him and his son and me and my wife and we're just standing there and it just takes one guy to go all right back to work everybody because if not we'll sit there for three hours. So how did it feel? Great. How was your trip? How was the hospital stay? Listen, it doesn't [ __ ] matter how my hospital stay was. Get in your truck. Get the [
__ ] out of here and I'll get the [ __ ] out of here. I go my way. You, you know, my wife, I hate her around when people come over because she'll always throw that curveball in. Like, tell them to look at the room. No, they don't need to look at the [ __ ] room. Leave them in the [ __ ] garage. If not, you're going to confuse these [ __ ] You got to assume everybody is confused. You go to a restaurant, you get something wrong. Everybody is not cooking on [ __
] you know, it's something I've never seen before. Every time I go somewhere, I'm like, "How could they be that stupid?" Yeah. How could they not do this? How could they? You go to CVS, there's anywhere you go, it's like they're not even training people anymore. They're not even training people anymore. You know, you go to I went somewhere the other day. I was at the mall. My daughter was on I go to Pep Changs. Pep Changs. Those type of restaurants, they used to train people for two weeks. You don't get paid. You're in there
learning [ __ ] It's not like a regular restaurant where they're like follow Joe Joe Rogan around for a day and then [ __ ] come back tomorrow and you're on your own, dog. Nobody's [ __ ] They don't know anything. These young kids don't know anything. Nothing. You know, a lot of them aren't even getting driver's licenses. They just Uber everywhere. The kids don't want to learn how to drive. I don't want to learn how to drive. They don't care. My friend was telling me his son's got a license for two years. He's home
every night. We got a license. We We left the house before we had the license. We were driving to New Hampshire. Yeah. We had the car before we had the [ __ ] license. Yeah. These It's But listen, I had, you know, people I went to a comedy show and a a guy comedian was talking about kids and I'm like, I'm not going to do that no more because that's all of us. We all talk about when I was [ __ ] 40, right? When I was 28, you know, I did this and I did
that. But these kids today are different. And I've accepted it. I've accepted it in my neighborhood. When I went back, I was pissed for a few [ __ ] months. How come? Because there's no kids playing. There's kids all over my [ __ ] uh street in my little cultist act there. I got like eight [ __ ] kids. Mr. Softy comes. We're the only ones out there. 4 in the afternoon. Where the [ __ ] kids? And then I said, "Well, kids don't feel comfortable being unsupervised today." You know, you hear too much about
kids being abducted and weird things happening to kids. It's not like they could free range like when we were kids. It's like there that that narrative is out there everywhere. And then some neighborhoods just aren't [ __ ] safe. Your your kids shouldn't be out. Nah, there's a lot of safe neighborhoods where kids don't play. Our neighborhood wasn't that safe. But in Unity there is strength. There's a real problem with uh video games. Video games are so good that kids don't want to go outside. That's a [ __ ] cell phone. Computer, cell phone, the
computer, man. That too. It's so many things. But I'm not I don't have a problem with it no more. That's what I'm trying to say to you. It's who they are now. It's who they are. You know, I was reading something. I just put this together. It's the truth. Remember a couple maybe a year ago, they were talking about how low testosterone in these people. Yeah. Kids don't play no more. Well, they don't play. They don't go outside. They don't jump. They don't jump. And then they're eating garbage. So, what do you think the testosterone
levels are going to be? And they they have plastic in their brain. They said that they studied a bunch of people to see micro how much microlastic they had in their brain. And some people had as much as a plastic spoon. What? Imagine that. You have so many microlastics in your brain that if they extracted it all, you can make a plastic spoon. So, of course, that's going to wreck your [ __ ] testosterone, too. And then I saw this thing about Call of Duty, some [ __ ] insane statistic about the amount of time
that in total that's been played in Call of Duty is like more than human civilization. Like the amount of minutes that people have logged, like millions of people playing Call of Duty is like, if you put it all together, it's longer than human civilization. And I've never played a video game, Joe. Good. Is that the craziest? You'd love it. Stay away from them. They're crack. They're crack. I just never felt the need to sit there on a [ __ ] computer and shoot at people. I'd rather shoot at people for real. I'd rather steal a
car for real or roll a [ __ ] drug dealer. Well, it's definitely more fun to shoot at things for real, but video games are very fun. There's They're not These people playing them aren't morons. They're fun. They're really fun. What is the long What is the amount of time spent? It's I This goes back there's a Reddit post from 10 years ago actually repeating the exact same thing. So 10 years ago it was that much. There's You could probably pick a video game though and say the same thing, right? Grand Theft Auto, right? Yeah.
Any really popular game, right? Yeah. How about Subway Servers? It says 25 billion hours played, but this was 10 years ago. 25 billion hours. That's That's so crazy. That's so crazy. That's so many hours of people playing that [ __ ] game 10 years ago. Yeah. At the same time, World of Warcraft has six billion years played. Six million. 6 million. 6 million. 6 million. Jesus Christ. So 6 million. That's pre-ivilization. I was a model guy. Weren't you a model guy? Yeah. I I used to make um little Star Wars Millennium Falcon models. Model cars.
I used to do all the superheroes, the brick wall and all that. Remember when you could paint them? You could paint them. I used to paint them and the whole thing that was my that's the only thing that kept me [ __ ] until one day my mom goes, "Stop painting those [ __ ] things. Get out of the [ __ ] house." How much paint fumes were we just [ __ ] getting in our bodies when kids? Glue paint. Listen, everybody's got that problem. These people talk about rubber cement glue. Remember that stuff when
you would crack it and it had this the brush attached to the lid and you pull it out and the smell you'd be like, "Woo!" And you'd tell your friends, "Smell this." You all be smelling markers. Everybody be sniffing markers and sniffing glue. I was thinking of sniffing glue again just to see how we feel now. Probably not good. I would imagine. We have some uh We have some smelling salts. Should we wrap this up with a smelling salt? Jamie, how many of those are fresh? They're all stacked. Is there any order to those? The
way they're stacked? I think this was the last That's the last freshy. Chuck that baby this way. You got one to go for me? Yeah, of course. I have one to go. You really want to take it with you? Yeah, I've got one. Okay, here we go. Oh, this is fresh. Fresh. This one hasn't been opened yet. Oh, you hear that? That means it just melted back on or something. Oh, boy. Whoa. This is a good one. Here we go. Oh boy. Wow. Yeah, them fresh ones. Oh my goodness. I got to get the right
side hopefully. Are we um are we giving ourselves brain damage or what? Hopefully. Let's uh find out about that. What else will we find out about? We figured out the numbers. Was there one other thing? Yeah. Jesus, these fresh ones are brutal. Are we giving ourselves brain damage? Holy crap. I need to know. I can't afford any more brain damage. I cleared my ears. Yeah. Let's put a lid on that thing. Keep it fresh. Oh my god, Joe. Keep it fresh. Says you overuse may damage nasal passages or lungs. Oh, well that's not good. What
does it do? What's overuse? Overuse can damage nasal pass. I don't think it's getting to my lungs. [ __ ] use both. I got damaged [ __ ] patch already and lung hair and [ __ ] Bro, you're your the inside of your nose is scarred over. It's like a cauliflower ear. Look at this. That was a good whack. That was a very good whack. That affected something. Yeah. cleaves you out. I've never tried it before lifting weights, but that's what it's for. That's what they do. Those powerlters. So, this is for strength lifters. Yeah.
The real powerlifter guys, they like to take a jolt of that [ __ ] right before they [ __ ] [ __ ] What's the pros and cons of this [ __ ] Like, what are the long I don't think there's any pros. It's all cons. This is not good. We just did. But this the ones we just did now is just a higher strength of the stuff they used to put in your nose. It smells the same stuff. It's exact. It's It's smelling salts. It's just a whole jar of them. It's ammonia, right, Jamie?
No. If you get knocked out, you put that under them. What happened? They used to be able to do that to boxers in between rounds. They stopped allowing them to do it, you know, cuz I guess it'll wake you up if you got a concussion a little bit. Just enough for you to get more of a concussion. So Tommy Hearns can hit you again. Oh my god. And I got this [ __ ] Loris, not Loris Fishburn. Who's the other guy? The guy I like a lot. He's in the Godfather of Harlem. Forest Whitaker. Forest
Whitaker. Forest Whitaker eye now. Oh, did you see it? No. What's going on with your eye? I don't know. When I got high, it droops. Only when you get high. That's hilarious. Yeah. Right here over this. I got to put like scotch tape over this. Did you ever see Forest Whitaker in The Color of Money? [ __ ] tremendous. Hustles Paul Newman. He hustled Paul Newman. It was beautiful. He's [ __ ] really Can I ask you a question? You think I need to lose weight? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He says that after he
robs him. He tricks him. He pretends he sucks at pool and then slowly but surely Paul Newman realizes he's getting hustled. Sorry, I'll throw this away. And there's a scene where he gets angry and he asks him, "Are you a hustler?" He's like, "You you can quit if you want to quit." It's one of the best scenes. That was a great scene. I forgot. It's one of the best. It's one of the best scenes in the movie because that's really how it works. Just Just for your uh clarity, a doctor says this about smelling. Oh,
what does it say? If you're stuck in a room that was filled with ammonia gas, you would get lung toxic toxicity. Potentially, you get airway injury. You could potentially die. But breathing this stuff in a few times over a few hours isn't really going to lead to any significant complications. He had that the FDA warning is mostly a regulatory issue about misbranding and mislabeling. Oh, okay. So, we have to worry. There's no way we could worry because those powerlifter guys, they've been doing it forever. It's like that Hicks joke about, you know, when you smoke
cigarettes, they're on the side of labels. Oh, yeah. Low birth weight. Low birth weight. I can live with that. Just pick the ones you like. Yeah. Ironic that that guy got pancreatic cancer and that's a side effect of cigarettes. That's one of I mean, you can't for sure say that that's what caused it, but that is one of the things that comes from that. Renewed interest may have come after the appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience. Oops. Ha. Yeah, people are blasting themselves to death with this [ __ ] Now, what's going on for Jersey?
Who's on that card? Kyla against the Venezuelan. Um, let's pull it up. Uh, the main event is Sugar Sean Ali and uh Morab Dwaves Willie the rematch, which would be absolute [ __ ] chaos. Juliana Pena versus Kayla Harrison, who's the most jacked female that's not on steroids walking the face of the earth. Kayla Harrison is [ __ ] I mean, she passes all her tests, but good lord, that lady's jacked. Bruno Silva, Joshua Van, this is like they haven't made the full card yet. These this Kelvin Gassam, the fight with Joe Pyer that was
rescheduled. Joe Piper got real sick in Mexico City. So did um uh Daniel Cormier and so did John Anick. They all got really sick in Mexico City. Cheetos on that card. Oh, let me see that. Yeah, I was going to get the better version. Okay. Who was uh Cheeto fighting? Okay, that Kelvin fight is a very good fight by the way. Kelvin and Joe Piper. Joe Piper is a [ __ ] terrifying dude. Mario Bautista, that's a very good fight. Mario Bautista is rock solid, man. That's a serious dude. And Marlin is a monster, too,
cuz that's that's a [ __ ] very good fight. Marlin's got the bigger name, but Mario Batista is a [ __ ] killer. Great card, but it's not fully formed yet. There's just a few fights. Generally speaking, there's um usually it's around 13 fights. You know, John and I were talking about that the other day, like there there's nothing like calling the UFC fights because you start, you know, if it's on in Vegas time, you're starting the fights at 3 p.m. and you're going all the way through to the pay-per-view. You're doing like six hours
plus of commentary and then you got to find times to run to pee. Sometimes it's like I have to tell the the truck, "Can I pee?" And then you go over because I'm drinking Monster Energy drinks and I'm taking nicotine pouches and I'm [ __ ] fired up and I'm drinking a lot of water, too. I'm drinking my hydrogen water and I have to [ __ ] pee so bad. There's nothing worse when you have to when you're trying to form a sense and you have to pee. You can't think. It has been brutal for
me. Brutal. And when I eat mushrooms, I got to pee every 20 [ __ ] minutes. Why? And if I'm in a car, I got to pull over and pee. And I got to make sure I'm not in the sexual [ __ ] uh territory. Like I don't pee at close to school, churches, [ __ ] parks, cuz they throw you under the bus for sexual whatever. And you got to be careful. But dog, I'm in a world where there some weeks are better than others. I don't get up at night to pee, but in
the daytime, especially if I work out and I start drinking that water and drinking that water, oh baby, I got to start peeing. And then when I got sick, this was the beauty of it. Every time I had a pee, I get anxiety. I would get a panic attack. I couldn't even make it to the bathroom to walk. Really? I was peeing my pants on the way to the [ __ ] bathroom. Joe, you have no idea that the last week of February when I went to the hospital in March, that was possibly that Saturday,
that Saturday night, my blood pressure was 212 over 100 and my oxygen level was at 86. And I wouldn't go to the hospital because I don't want the ambulance coming to get me at 4 in the morning in front of my daughter. So I waited till 8 and then I drove myself to the hospital. It was [ __ ] up, bro. Wow. That was a [ __ ] up couple months, man. I didn't know what was going on. And what did they determine it was? It was uh had heart congenative heart failure. When you have
fluid in your lungs, edema, whatever. I was retained, bro. I went I walk around right now I'm 278. I was 265 all summer cuz I was really happy. Every day I would go look I can fight in the UFC. When I walked into the hospital I was 319. Oh, you got big. I got big in a month. Oh, like a month. And I wasn't eating in the hospital. Nothing. What were you Was it like Italian food? Like what? Got you so big. I was just retaining water. Edema is when you retain water. Oh, like that
much water. Oh my god, Joe. And my lungs was getting the water so I couldn't breathe. And then when I would not it got to it became it went from me just having to stop like if I would walk from here I wouldn't make it to your bathroom. Couldn't make it to your bathroom. I would have to stop in the in between and take like a five minute breath. Meanwhile holding my peeing. Oh Jesus. And your [ __ ] stress levels going up and up because you're holding your [ __ ] peeing. It got to
the point I would walk into shop, get what I had to get, but now I got to stand there cuz I got to [ __ ] pee from the walking. Oh no. And the bathroom's a mile away. There's no walking. You just take your dick out and pee. There's no even Oh my god. In those days, it wasn't even getting the container from the car cuz I started bringing the container in the car. There was no time. You just get out, open the car door, and make believe you're waving at somebody. And you take your
dick out, you're peeing or you I make believe like I'm getting something from the back of the car. the whole time I'm peeing. Oh wow. Yeah, man. So, as soon as I went in, they put me on these [ __ ] things for 3 days and I lost like 20 lbs of fluid. It was [ __ ] amazing. I was peeing one of those full things, one an hour. Really couldn't even make it to the bathroom. I would just get up and [ __ ] pee in it, fill it up, and then they did a
nuclear blood test and they had to take out, I don't know, [ __ ] six tubes of blood in 45 minutes. And that's when they came back and they go, "You got 65%. You're overloaded on fluid in your body. You're retaining that much water and your blood cells are off the charts. So, we got to start draining." I started I started draining. They were taking I don't know how many tubes from me every 3 hours of blood. Wow. Look at my [ __ ] arms. They're [ __ ] banged up. I like a [ __
] Wow. heroin junkie. So, when I got out, I started taking it. Listen, when you end up in a hospital, there's a problem, okay? There's a problem. Yeah. You you cut a stitch, that's not a problem. You had a situation. That's how I looked at it. There's a problem here. We got to get to the bottom of this [ __ ] What is the bottom of it? What's the cause of it was it was I was taking MK677. What is that? And it's a it's a amino acid peptide which mimics growth hormone in your brain.
And it had a lot of dumps like it it do insulin dumps and all this type of [ __ ] and it was raising my sugar. It was doing a ton of [ __ ] I didn't even know it. But this ain't the first time it happened. It happened when I was doing testosterone when I was 50. I had a a rush of red blood cells and I had to go to I was in DC and I had the worst [ __ ] migraine headache for days and they took blood out. They go, "You got
too many red blood cells." Wow. So that's why I can't do any of that [ __ ] M and it's like the man said, if you're going to do growth, do growth. Don't get something that's going to mimic growth. What ways to Well can do for you what what ways to Well could do for you will change your [ __ ] life. Yeah. No, we get you a full blood panel and figure out what's going on. Adjust your nutrition. Adjust your I love I love Bron's a good [ __ ] man. And he loves what
he does. He does. And that's what the key is. Like he's jerking off all over that [ __ ] Martian. He loves that [ __ ] He loves it. He loves it. It took forever to build that thing. He was telling me he was having that thing made two years ago and I was like, "Wow, what are you doing?" Now that he got it, I was like, "Oh, okay. I get it. It's pretty cool." It's pretty really [ __ ] cool. But that was what I have going on, man. When I came out, I was
going to see what we could do. Yeah. I quit smoking pot and I was like, "Come on, man." After about a month, I'm like, "Come on, Joy. This ain't what [ __ ] puts you in the hospital. You know this." So, I started slightly. I would just do one hit in the morning because that's all I need is the morning. The rest of the day is [ __ ] I just like to be high in the morning with that coffee. That's my world. That lets me know what I'm doing that day. You think about life.
Yeah. No, it's like what Bill Heck said, marijuana don't make you lazy. It just makes you realize that what you're going to do ain't worth doing. Okay. That's the way I look at it. You know, then I got to drive into the city, do that podcast, only 18 people listen to it. I'm not [ __ ] going to, you know? That's what happens. And that's what happens with me. I smoke pot in the morning. I'm like, I ain't doing that today. [ __ ] that. I love you to death, Joey. Let's wrap this up, my
brother. Thank you for having me. I'm glad you're in town. Let's have some fun. Happy Easter, everybody. Stay black. Bye, everybody.
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