here's the most important question people ask me this question all the time they say Steve what is your favorite ever episode on the DI ofo podcast and I think the more important question is actually what is your favorite episode on the Diary of AO podcast of all time and so I went out to try and answer that question what is your favorite episode what is your favorite moment on this podcast of all time and using a data scientist and a big team of analysts we've found the most replayed moments of all the hundreds of episodes
we've produced this year to show to you today these are the moments that you replayed and shared more than any other moment on this podcast theoretically this should be the most valuable D CEO episode you ever listen to because it's a compilation of the most valuable moments that we've ever had on this show in 2020 [Music] three the seventh most replayed moment is my conversation with jles yo where he takes on some of the biggest myths about Health weight obesity and he answers the question do we have to get fatter as we age is it
genetic what are the easy ways to manage our weight after I read it in your book about us gaining more and more weight we age I Googled it and the healthcare research and quality agency said that we naturally tend to gain weight as we age to the tune of 1 to two pounds per year according to their review and that's from the agency for healthare research and quality which I found quite startling but completely accurate so the numbers so what what the numbers that we have is yeah I think that's right actually so between 20
and 50 years old those 30 years intervening the average person average will gain about 15 kilos in weight which is 32. yes 2 pound a year 1 to 2 pound a year 15 kilos in weight is gained over 30 years on average some gain very little others gain a hell of a lot more we look at ourselves in a mirror I look at myself in a mirror um but it's true I don't want to be that guy mate I don't know how much choice you have what can I do to to to try and stay
cuz for me it's not really about the weight thing or how you look it's more about like I I am I don't know how to say this but there was this big set of stairs the other day really really long set of stairs leading down to this Lake I was in Indonesia a couple of months ago um and I I remember thinking about those stairs and thinking God if I wasn't you know athletic and strong and didn't have good knees and things like that there's no way I'd be able to get down this long winding
handcarved set of Indonesian stairs so that I could go on this boat trip that I was going to go on and I just thought about how it was a weird thing I know this is kind of a strange story to tell but it crossed my mind I got to the bottom of the stairs and I turned to the person I was with and was literally like you know that's why I've got to stay in shape for as long as I can because I want to do these boat trips and I want to go on this
little rafting thing but I won't even be able to access it unless I can go down up and down those stairs like 200 meters of stairs down this Cliff um so that's what I care about I care about being active and strong and fit for as long as I possibly can and I from what you've said about gravity and weight um being overweight is going to inhibit my chances of being able to do those stairs so so that I think there are two elements there first of all there is doing the things that we want
to do okay like that because you're exactly right these are the things which I can still do that I can still walk up a mountain or down a mountain because I'm still fit enough to do that and I want to stay as fit as long as I can to do that and weight will inhibit that undoubtedly but then there's a second element to actually consider now there Healthy Look none of us are going to live longer we hopefully and anyway if we let lived longer but was unhealthy would you want to live longer so you
want to live longer but healthier for longer okay and undoubtedly the thing that is closest related to health when you age is not your total weight there's a role to play there the amount of muscle you have it is your muscle mass as you age independent of how much fat you have okay that will determine how healthy you are as you age so as so now the M now I'm talking about going into the 60s and the 70s rather than when one is able to go down a 200 met set of steps okay so now
as you get older the most crucial bit of information is to maintain resistance training not lifting and that's not what I'm talking about sitting on a wall getting up and down a chair because that the amount of muscle mass you have really really really marks the level of Health that that you're going to get and then the the science is startling it is so so so related of independent of independent of weight you know from from from from there so muscle mass is the most important for healthy aging the moment you get 60 70 plus
interesting okay so I'll keep I'll keep doing resistance training correct always keep resistance training and lifting weights as long as I can lifting weights as long as you can at some point you won't be able to lift weights don't don't write me off don't write me off John the hubis of Youth yeah that's the naivity of Youth yeah you just assume you'll always be able to do what you can do now I I yeah it's something I think a lot about and I think a lot of people will watch this podcast because probably especially this
time of year we're in January they'll probably be trying to find ways that they can cut fat they want to be a bit skinnier you said think you said half a stone you want to lose I'm in the same place I think most people want to lose a half a stone or something what is the way that you would suggest to do that the simple way you know not the like complicated go by this guy's course and do three million sit-ups whatever the simple advice you would give someone that's H hoping to create sort of
sustainable weight loss so the first is the amount of protein you eat and you need to try and focus on trying to keep to about 16% of the energy in your day okay from protein 16% and there's a sweet spot so if you eat too much and you're not lifting you're stressing your kidneys because your kidneys have to get rid of the nitrogen from the protein okay so 16% is a sweet spot and it doesn't mean steaks only it can mean beans tofu any kind of protein from from anywhere 16 % second is fiber we
need to eat as much fiber as physically possible okay 30 gr we want to aim for although we are looking at the moment on average in this country we're probably only eating 15 grams we need to double the amount of fiber we actually eat third we need to limit the amount of added sugars into our diet added sugars meaning sugars not tied up in fiber powdered stuff uh uh um maple syrup alav nectar all those are added sugar SE put in keep it to 5% or less of the of the energy content in your day
and those are the three numbers that that that I want you to think about so 16% of protein 30 gram of fiber 5% or less of added sugars apply that to whatever you want what keto um whatever you want to do apply that and I think that will be a sustainable healthy way to eat the sixth most replayed moment is a conversation I had with Dr Mindy pels who talks about the belly F burning diet nutrition is a huge thing at this time of year and so she lays out exactly how to eat and behave
in order to reduce belly fat and to improve your overall health you told me about the first two styles of fasting the first one was intim fasting which is 12 to 16 hours which is good for weight loss brain fog that kind of thing the second is autography autophagy what did I say autography but I like it I said autophagy I said autophagy we can play that back I definitely said autophagy and if I didn't we'll fix it with AI um autophagy fasting which is 17 to 72 hours good for balancing sex hormones and preventing
illness yeah number three we haven't spoken about gut reset fast yeah what's that yeah so that's based off uh a study that came out of MIT that showed 24 hours without food and your intestinal stem cells inside your gut actually start to reboot themselves now a stem cell is a cell that can go to anywhere in the body and repair itself but at 24 hours you get a plethora of them in your gut and in the gut we've got a damaged microbiome from everything that we've just been talking about so what I discovered in this
24-hour fast is I could take women that have been on birth control pill for years um people that had been on multiple rounds of antibiotics people who had been eating horrible food and I could actually put them through a 24-hour fast once a week once once every couple of weeks and these stem cells would come in there and they would start to repair and so now if I teach that person How to Eat Right their food is actually starting to build a better microbiome in the gut so that 24-hour fast became this go-to in my
clinic where I could take all these gut challenges and I could start to unwind them just because I knew the body had this capability of making these intestinal stem cells and it was crazy like we got people off supplements we got people that were didn't weren't making serotonin which affects moods comes from the gut all of a sudden start to become happier people who hadn't had bowel movements in like three days all of a sudden we started to put in these this gut reset and it was like a miracle it was incredible number four fat
burner fast so the fat burner fast is probably my favorite for those people who want to lose weight the research was done that 36 hours without food followed by 12 hours of eating and then another 30 they actually did it over a 30-day period but we've been using it in our community just dosing it in that at 36 hours what happens is that's enough time where the blood sugars come come down where all of a sudden the body it's so smart it goes okay blood sugar is not common we've been in this fasted State we've
triggered autophagy we've brought inflammation down we've made you ketones we're trying to go find food but this extra weight not serving you you because remember you got to go find food so it drops weight and it's the most beautiful way to get a person to unstick any kind of weight loss resistance but most importantly you know where it dropped the most amount of weight from where does everybody want to lose weight belly yep so it is the I probably should have called it the fat burning belly fat burning the belly fat yeah that would have
banged yeah but yeah and so that's what they showed is that actually a 30 36 hour fast started to unstick weight loss and it was started with weight around the belly compelling number five the dopamine reset fast yeah so number five um I found some research showing that when people go without food for 48 hours the whole dopamine system will be rebooted so what's important to know about the dopamine system is it is our molecule of happiness it is the thing that it's actually a motivation molecule and it's a neurotransmitter that allows thoughts happy thoughts
to go across from neuron to neuron and so what happens and I'm sure you've talked about this on your podcast that we're so dopamine saturated right now but specifically people who are Overeaters they actually are finding the study I quote in the book is that they found that people who had food addiction people who had extra weight like obese situations they were not getting as much happiness out of their food because their dopamine receptor sites were saturated so they had to eat more food to get more happiness and a lot and you know food is
a state changer it does make us happy so what they found is if they put them into a 48 hour fast that they actually rebooted the whole dopamine system and new dopamine receptor sites appeared so that when they brought food back into the equation they actually got more enjoyment out of food with less food this kind of got me thinking about a conversation I was having yesterday with some of my team here we were talking about how um it almost feels like sometimes if I've eaten sugar I can go into a bit of a sugar
cycle and what I mean by that is I'll have some sugar and then like a couple of hours later I'll have another craving for sugar and then a couple of hours later I'll have another craving for sugar but then at other times specifically for example when I did keto I was I did the keto diet for about eight months uh8 weeks bloody eight months I wish um eight weeks and throughout that period I didn't have any cravings for sugar yep I would we had some chocolate come into the studio and I walked over to the
chocolate and I smell it yep and I didn't want any of it y it had gone but then when I'm in my what I call like the sugar cycle I'm eating sugar maybe you know once or twice a day and I'm getting like the craving for it where which I just can't seem to resist yep well dopamine's the molecule of more it's not the molecule of enough so what it does is when you get sugar you get this dopamine rush and the Brain goes woo love that give me more of that and so you con
you it's it's endless you will never be fully satisfied it constantly wants you to come back for more and more and more so when you start to go off the ketogenic Energy System you're getting the same Euphoria you probably felt the same high the same mental Clarity but you've totally taken this molecule more out of the out of the picture it's it in fact dopamine will actually you know you you get those receptor sites that will be repaired but you're not getting a big dopamine buzz when you're in a ketogenic state you're getting ketones I
was I was mulling it with my team how long I had to stay away from sugar to kind of get out of that vicious give me more cycle yeah my experience has been it's about three days three days that's what I thought yeah I think I said four or five but it's just from experience as well if I haven't had sugar for three or four days I mean like a like a chocolate but something significant in terms of sugar then after 3 or 4 days the craving for it seems to to vanish yeah yeah it's
not it's not if you think about that it's not hard if you're trying to overcome a sugar addiction yeah like just bear it for three days and then that dopamine stops barking at you and then if you attack fasting onto it now you're getting ketones and so you're not needing that as much ketones kill hunger and they make you so mentally mentally clear they give you this euphoric feeling so you don't have that urge to go for the for the sugar and the ketones come from fasting which is when your body switches metabolic State yeah
the last and final fasting style immune reset fost yeah so immune reset was built off of Dr wter Longo's work and he did a study on people who had cancer and were going through chemotherapy and one of the challenges we know about chemotherapy is that it wipes out the whole immune system and so he wanted to see well what if I put somebody in a fasted State as they went through chemotherapy would there be a difference and what he found is after 3 days of fasting the white blood cells in our system actually reboot themselves
so what they do is all old white blood cells are are slued away and new white blood cells emerge so people were able to come out of that chemotherapy experience and have a stronger immune system as opposed to what we were seeing was that it was wiping the immune system out so that launched the whole three-day water fast sort of craze at least here in America we're seeing a lot of people that are just going after 3-day water fast to Prime their immune system but you also also at three days get stem cells full systemic
stem cells so all of a sudden your body's got in surging with stem cells going to all parts of the body repairing it the great example I always use on this one was I had an Achilles tendon injury and nothing was nothing was helping it so I threw a 5day water fast at it on the fourth day I felt this buzz in my achilles tendon and I was like oh wonder what that is is and it stayed all the way through I went five full days and um about the fifth and sixth day so sixth
day I was entering food back in all the pain completely went away and it never came back I tried everything I tried everything and that was the only thing that repaired it it does make again evolutionary sense that if our body senses we're injured because we're not eating or you know some other signal that we are on a course to not survive to put it nicely it does make sense that it might set about to repair whatever needs to be repaired you're getting it you know cuz like if I was a wounded human back in
on the savanas of I don't know Africa or wherever we came from um and I'm laid there and I'm not eating my body should probably go okay Steve might need something fixed so that he can get back to yeah hunting so you're getting it so survival that is the number one priority of the body so when you go without food you amplify every resource it has to keep you alive and if repairing my achilles means I can now go hunt for food it's going to do that it's going to make me stronger and I in
the book I I stumbled when I was writing the book I stumbled upon a really cool hypothesis that's called the Thrifty Gene hypothesis and it said that what it's a theory obviously it's hypothesis it's a theory that the people the humans that evolved out of the Primal days had a very specific genotype and this genotype allowed us to metabolically flex and and be stronger in a fasted State because we had to survive and the people that didn't make it from that time period didn't have that Gene but think about this for this moment so they
think we all have this Gene inside of us right now this Thrifty Gene where we can go long periods without food and we can survive so what happens when we're eating all day what happens when we're ignoring and we're not actually activating that genetic profile so what they are now believing is that diabetes metabolic syndrome all of that is largely happening because we are going against the G the genetic profile that we are now seeing in humans we're like on the opposite end of the spectrum we're overloading our bodies yeah which is meaning that the
survival Gene you reference there is not being activated to help us that's right that's right interesting the fifth most replayed moment is a moment from my conversation with Matthew Walker who is the world's number one expert on the subject of sleep he explains the importance of sleep on our overall health on our weights and everything in between but most importantly of all he gives us a road map for how to sleep better and I know so many of you are struggling so I'm not surprised that this is one of the most replayed moments of the
dire of a CEO of 2023 had a lot of Health experts on this podcast recently but none of them have really talked to me about the role that sleep or sleep deprivation plays in wait is there a relationship it's probably one of the most well defined relationships that we know in all of sleep science and it is at least a three-part story so the first emerging evidence came in terms of um hormones so there are what we call appetite regulating hormones and the two principal ones of concern here are something called leptin and grin now
leptin when it's released will signal to your brain that you're satisfied with your food you are satiated and you are no longer hungry grin does the opposite when grin is released it says no you're not satisfied with your food you are not full you still want to eat more you are still hungry and some of the first the they started to just limit people restrict people's sleep to 6 hours or 5 hours or 4 hours and what they found was that um there was firstly that signal leptin that says no you're satisfied with your food
you don't want to eat anymore you're full that signal of fullness satiation was decreased by 18% if that wasn't bad enough grin which is the hunger hormone that laed up by 28% overall hunger levels Rose by about uh 26% so firstly you are it's almost like double jeopardy that you are getting punished twice for the same crime of not sleeping enough once by losing the signal of I'm full I I don't want to eat anymore and once again for the no I'm much more hungry and I'm just going to overeat which is grin so what
that produces is a profile of increased eating so on average underslept individuals started to eat in those studies about 3 to 400 extra calories at each sit at each sitting by way of insufficient sleep then what they discovered is that it's not just that you want to eat more it's what it is that you have a craving for when you are underslept and this is the problem what they found is that when you underslept you eat more of everything but you especially eat more of these heavy-hitting stodgy carbohydrates bread pasta pizza the the next thing
that you started to eat have a preference for was simple sugary Foods sweets and chocolate and then finally you started to Crave very salty food and high sodium food intake will increase your blood pressure so that was the first of the the three mechanisms then we did a study where we said perhaps it's not just the circulating hormones in the body the brain is the ultimate Arbiter of your food decisions so what's going on in the brain so we took a group of perfectly healthy individuals and we put them through the experiment twice once when
they'd had a full eight hours of sleep and once when we deprived them of sleep and then the next day we place them inside an MRI scanner and we showed them images of lots of different foods that range from being sort of you know very healthy to being very unhealthy and S of ice cream and you know chocolate and pizza and things to Leafy salads and nuts and greens and vegetables and we asked them to rate how much they wanted that food for each item now we did something a bit sort of dedly to make
it more ecologically correct so that they weren't just saying okay they probably think I should probably say that's healthy we said we're going to randomly select one of these images these food images that you see and after you get out the brain scanner we're going to give you that food and we're going to politely ask you to eat it all so it made it a bit more realistic so the choices were more you know as much as that we could so what we found is that when they were sleep deprived the Deep honic centers the
emotional centers of the brain these desire centers these reward centers um they ramped up in their activ ity in response to these highly desirable highly unhealthy Foods so these more basic sort of you know gutteral parts of the brain as it were um these reward centers were lighting up much more strongly when you were sleep deprived were still the impulse control regions in the front of the brain what we call the prefrontal cortex they were shut down they were taken offline so as a consequence you lost your impulse control and that's why you start to
then say you know when I'm sleep rived at the food sort of buffet I'm not not going to do salad I'm just going to that pizza looks awful good or that Pastor with the cre I'm just going to go into that all go so so your it's what we call a pattern in terms of brain activity uh in Neuroscience of honic eating that your brain goes into this honic desire profile so now we understood it's not just hormones in the body it's also changes in the brain then came the finding that there's another chemical in
the body that's responsible and this comes on to cannabis when people um when people when people that you may know have smoked cannabis they'll often say I get viciously hungry I get the munchies I get really hungry that's no coincidence because cannabis will stimulate appetite now we all have naturally occurring cannabis compounds in our brain and our bodies they are called endoc canabo Endo meaning comes from inside us um whereas the Cannabis that comes externally when you sort of smoke it or um take Edibles so endoc canabo do many things for the brain and the
body but one of the things that they do is control your appetite and your hunger and what we found is that when you sleep deprived individuals these naturally occurring endoc canabo rocketed up by over over 20% cranking up people's appetite and so these three ways lead you to start packing on you know when insufficient sleep is occurring when sleep gets short your waistline typically starts to expand and we Now understand the reasons if that wasn't bad enough it is bad enough the yeah you just stop M honestly I really uh the the last thing that
we discovered is that let's say that you're trying to be really careful and you're trying to diet and you're trying to lose weight if you're not getting sufficient sleep then 60% of all of the weight that you lose will come from lean muscle mass oh God no and not fat not the muscle I know exactly so in other words when you are dieting but you are underslept you lose what you want to keep which is muscle and you keep what you want to lose which is fat so again it's I'm sold not an ideal situation
sleep is important I get it I'm sold how do I my question is what are the things that in the modern society are standing in the way of sleep we've touched on some of them Loosely but some of the like big obvious things the things that you would suggest doing very actionable things we could do straight away to improve our chances of having that healthy um deep sleep that we need to be um optimal in every regard of our health and performance there's probably I think five standard tips what we call sort of sleep hygiene
that you can do and then I'll come on to maybe just some unconventional tips uh that we've sort of touched on and we've spoken about many of these the first thing I would recommend people to do and this is why when some people say oh what about this new sleep supplement or you know it's it's 40 quid for this bottle of the Sleep new sleep natural medications so I'm going to give it a try I would say try these tried and true things first before you spend your money on supplements the first thing is regularity
go to bed at the same time and wake up at the same time no matter whether it's the weekday or the weekend your brain expects regularity it thrives best under conditions of regularity when you give it regularity you can improve the quantity and the quantity of your sleep the second thing is get some Darkness at night as I said we don't get enough darkness in the modern world and so the trick I would offer and I don't use I don't like the word hack but the suggestion would be in the last hour before bed try
this experiment for everyone listening for the next week dim down half of the lights or switch off half of the lights or even a 3/4s of the lights in your home in the last hour before bed all of the lights in every room in all of the rooms you know switch off almost all of the light now I'm not suggesting be unsafe and walk around in the darkness in the last hour that's not what I want to saying just dim down you know switch off half of the lights you will be surprised at how sleepy
that Darkness will make you feel and it's also an incredible behavioral trigger to signal to your brain that it is time for sleep that darkness is around me that's the second tip is Darkness the third T tip is temperature most people sleep in an ambient bedroom temperature that is too high and you need to aim for a bedroom temperature of about 18 18 1 12 degre cus around about 65 to 68° fahit if I'm probably butchering the the mathematics there on that but um you need to get cool now you can wear thick socks you
can have a hot water bottle that's fine but the ambient needs to be cold because you need to drop your core body temperature and your brain temperature by by about 1° C to fall asleep and stay asleep and it's the reason that you will always find it easier to fall asleep in a room that's too cold and too hot so make your bedroom cold make it dark like a cave the the fourth question would be sort of what we've or fourth suggestion would be Walk It Out and we've spoken about this the 30 minute rule
you know get up do something different or meditate you know don't lie in bed awake for too long then the final two things we've spoken about well we've spoken about caffeine we haven't spoken about alcohol but let me just say as the kind of headline of it alcohol is not a sleep aid many people use it as a sleep aid it is not your friend alcohol again is a sedative so it knocks you out the second is that it fragments your sleep so you wake up your sleep is littered with all of these small Awakenings
most of them you don't remember because it's too brief but it makes for miserable lousy quality sleep and the final thing is that alcohol is very good at blocking your REM sleep or your dream sleep which we know is critical for many other functions as well so alcohol is not your friend that's the sort of the final tip again you know just every if you're with friends have a glass of red wine just know okay my sleep's not going to be great thank you and you know I'm not yeah I'm whatever it's just you know
live life too I'm not saying that the fourth most replayed moment is a moment for my conversation with the world leading neuroscientist the man who has scanned more brains than anybody else Dr Daniel aiman who is a favorite on the D CEO and he tells us very very clearly how to grow a healthier brain I can change my brain it's the most exciting lesson that I've learned you're not stuck I'm not stuck with the brain I had you're not stuck with the brain you have you can make it better I can prove it in fact
every day what I've come to believe you're making your brain better or you're making it worse let's start there by what you're doing what things make the brain worse what are the common things that most of us do without thinking that make the brain worse when my daughter Khloe was in second grade I went to her classroom and I wrote 20 things on the board and I went separate them for me good for your brain bad for your brain seveny olds they got 19 out of 20 right so most people know the only thing they
got wrong was orange juice they put it in the healthy category when in fact when is it rational to unwrap fruit sugar from its fiber source because it turns toxic in your body so I'm not a fan of fruit juice I'm a fan of fruit not fruit juice what's bad about sugar for the brain pro-inflammatory which what does that mean it makes you diabetic but I mean as it relates to the brain why is like orange juice or the ice cream bad for my brain because it's ultimately going to give you high blood sugar levels
MH which erode your blood vessels and you're going to have lower blood flow to your brain that that's a bad thing I mean there's so many things about it so it's addictive it's pro-inflammatory it makes it more likely you're going to have diabetes and obesity so 72% of Americans are overweight 42% are obese I've published three studies on 35,000 people as your weight goes up the actual physical size and function of your brain goes down that should scare the fat off anyone I used to be chubby but when I figured out that connection I'm like
oh no I'm it was that that gave me the motivation to drop about 25 pounds and so sugar is the gateway drug to diabetes and obesity and so not to mention inflammation which is the cause of depression and dementia so you want to avoid things that cause low blood flow caffeine nicotine caffeine caffeine constricts blood flow to the brain what does that do to my brain Con well constricts blood flow so you're going to get less blood flow and remember I showed you that progression with age no you don't want that you want to do
things that increase blood flow to your brain so exercise genko it's this one of the supplements I'm going to give you eat foods like um beets oregano Rosemary cinnamon they increase blood flow while we're on blood flow 40% of 40y olds have erectile dysfunction 70% of 70y olds have erectile dysfunction what that means if you have blood flow problems anywhere it means they're everywhere and so like No And it means either you're too sedentary you're overweight you're smoking or having too much caffeine or using marijuana because marijuana lowers blood flow to the brain and so
just in that one of the 11 it's exercise genko for you not for everybody but for you hyperbaric oxygen those three things will make a big difference difference in blood flow genko genko what is that it's a supplement what does it do uh increases blood flow to the brain the prettiest brains I've ever seen take genko there's actually a spec study uh they gave uh people 120 milligrams of genko twice a day significant Improvement in blood flow to the brain and so in one of the supplements I'm going to give you we have genko I
I've taken it every day for the last 20 years at least and then this is where the US government got an F for the pandemic loneliness accelerates dementia and brain problems and so when they isolated us the whole significant increase in brain problems so get connected to other people the i in bright Minds is inflammation so what increases inflammation low omega-3 fatty acid levels and we are deficient 93% of the population is deficient in omega-3 fatty acids 93% so all of us should be either eating more fish or taking an omega-3 supplement like fish oil
gum disease like who knew like I wasn't really that good at taking care of my gums until I started reading the study you have gum disease you have inflammation you're more likely to get depressed and have dementia the third most replayed moment is a moment from my conversation with Gary Breer where he lays out how you can become a superhuman strip the fat off your body and get yourself healthy with free easy simple exercises that will cost you nothing at all when I heard the story about Dana White and I saw he had gone from
respectfully being a man that had a little bit of weight to to having this these sixpack abs on Instagram of course the sixpack isn't the the outcome it's as you've said it's the stuff going on inside him that's really the transformation but what can someone who's just heard that at home where do they start with getting extending their life by triple and getting the so you know he also started something called the Superhuman protocol and superhuman protocol is using magnetism oxygen and light right so the only things that we really get from Mother Nature the
the the big benefit we get from mother nature is we get magnetism from the earth we get oxygen from the air we get light from the sun the truth is most of us are not contacting the surface of the Earth that much anymore so he bought $150,000 worth of equipment a pmf mat an oxygen what's called a hypermax oxygen to do exercise with oxygen therapy and a red light therapy bed and I had him use that equipment every single day seven days a week but if your listeners want to do it for free you can
take off your shoes and contact the surface of the Earth and I'm talking about bare feet on soil dirt grass sand because earthing and grounding is a very real thing we actually discharge into the Earth we actually human beings build up a charge do you know that pH the acid alkaline scale pH stands for potential hydrogen it's a charge it's a complete fallacy that you can get alkaline by drinking alkaline water that's the biggest marketing myth ever sold to the public um but you can get alkaline by contacting the surface of the Earth so if
you don't have 150 Grand which I don't expect anybody listening to this podcast to spend 150 Grand but he did I said you need a MAG you need a pmf mat so you can be alkaline you need to spend 10 minutes a day breathing um 95% O2 under mild exercise and you need to lay in a red light therapy bed so in the absence of the Superhuman protocol you can become superhuman by contacting the Earth and by learning to do breathwork let's talk about breath work I spend eight minutes every day doing a very specific
series of breath work people do not realize the power of something that is so accessible so free and so easy to do right they they want things to be more complicated but it's not and when I said the presence of oxygen is the absence of disease it's absolutely true remember that every elevated emotional state that a human being can experience actually has in its molecular structure oxygen is a component of that emotion so if you look at the difference between passion Elation Joy arousal libido and anger for example it's usually only one neurotransmitter and the
presence of oxygen the reason why no human being is ever woken up laughing is because you don't have the oxidative state to experience laughter right out of deep sleep but can you wake up angry yes because anger doesn't require oxygen so every morning contact the surface of the Earth and then spend eight minutes doing I do a wimh off style of breath work I give credit where credits do he's the father of breath work as far as I'm concerned so I do three rounds of 30 deep breaths like obnoxiously deep breaths and I start by
trying to take my belly button and pull my belly button out towards the wall imagine there's a string pulling your belly button towards the wall and then you you fill from the loes of the lung to the apex of the lung and then you exhale and just relax did God knows what they think we're doing out there right outside this gu they're like a bunch of freaka I knew it was a cult um KN I knew he was a cult leader but um so you do three rounds of 30 breaths on the 30th breath you
exhale and you hold allow the carbohydrate rep receptor to reset when you don't feel you can hold anymore you take a deep breath in you hold again and you let it out slow and you start again I would suggest that you start with three rounds of five breaths then work to 10 15 20 25 and 30 if you get lightheaded this is a good sign that the oxygen tension is changing in your brain if your fingers and toes get tingly this is a good sign that you're changing the oxygen tension if you feel some kind
of heat uh temperature change in your neck these are all Great Signs you will get to the point where you can actually hold your breath for two or three minutes sometimes four minutes between rounds of breath work um and then the last thing is to expose yourself to natural sunlight first thing in the morning the first 45 minutes of the day God gives us a very very special type of light called First Light there's no UVA there's no UVB rays in this light um so that it's not the damaging Rays from the Sun it still
generates vitamin D3 it has a positive effect on cortisol on vitamin D3 first light is the best way to reset your circadian rhythm so by contacting the surface of the Earth doing breath work and getting first light you can get to the same place that Dana White did with 150 Grand in equipment what about oxygen masks cuz I I'll be honest when I read when I read um about the Dana story I went on Amazon soon after and I was like like I'm just going to buy an oxygen canister good idea bad idea um so
what you want to do is um you know you get an oxygen concentrator which takes 21% oxygen from which is what the concentration at sea level it turns it into 95% O2 and it fills this bag and it can refill this bag over and over and over again okay I use one called the hypermax you can see it on my Instagram and um you turn you plug it in you turn it on it fills this bag and then you go in you put an oxygen mask on and you exercise for 10 minutes only 10 minutes
cycle for 3 minutes uh Sprint for 30 seconds cycle for 3 minutes Sprint for 30 seconds cycle 3 minutes Sprint 30 seconds and you're done and what this does is it raises something called the partial pressure the the storage of oxygen in your blood the only two time two-time Noble Ora Prize winner in Medicine Dr otter warberg won both of his Nobel prizes for his work in exercise with oxygen therapy you want to be a superhuman do mild exercise every day while breathing 95% O2 it's important that you're exercising and then after that you move
into a red light therapy bed photobiomodulation um so you know if you don't have access to a hypermax oxygen machine just do the breath work get the breath in you know exchange the oxygen tension and the tissues and expose yourself to First Light what about cold cold W of plunging so I'm a huge fan of cold water plunging but probably not for the reasons why you think you know um I also sit on the board of the NFL um uh Alumni Association athletica as a health service director you know there there was a time when
we used to think that putting athletes and cold water after exercise was good because of its anti-inflammatory effects we know now that that's only about 15% of the benefit the majority of the benefit comes from something called a cold shock protein if you really want to be fascinated Google cold shock proteins these are reserved proteins that are in your liver they're dumped into the bloodstream in effort to save your life when you put yourself in cold water they scour the body of free radical oxidation they increase the rate of protein synthesis muscle repair they are
free you get them when you put yourself in cold water um I don't know what the Celsius conversion is but I use 50° for 3 minutes minimum 6 minutes maximum cold yes it's it's actually not that cold I mean you know I see people getting in 37 38 degree water there's no evidence that I've read that shows that colder is better you get a peripheral Vaso constriction so it forces all the oxygen into the core and up to the brain um and you you get an activation of something called Brown fat right um thermogenesis comes
from Brown fat and for the women that are listening for some reason I seem to ins snare the women when I say this remember that the definition of a calorie is a measure of heat right I mean the definition of a calorie is the amount of energy it takes to raise 1 cubic centimeter of water 1° Centigrade so if if if a calorie is a measure of heat then this means that when Heat's leaving your body calories are leaving your body so if there is nothing nothing no amount of exercise hits cardio no type of
cardiovascular or weight training that comes anywhere close to immersing yourself in cold water in ter terms of what will strip fat off your body fast if you want to strip fat off your body get in cold water 3 to 6 minutes a day that's fascinating because because the oxygen rushes to my head that's why it has a really profound impact on mood that's why it has a very profound impact on mood because if you think about it what's the reason why we need deep sleep what happens in deep Sleep that's so special there's a secondary
oxygen transfer we transfer oxygen from the periphery from the extremities to the brain remember the brain's a non-metabolic organ so in other words it's unlike muscle if I pick up a weight and start to work out my muscle my arm my body will send more blood more amino acids more oxygen to that muscle because it's working well if I'm sitting at my computer and I'm watching reruns of The Simpsons or I'm sitting at my computer and I'm solving the most complex joint venture agreement partnership agreement with all kinds of mathematical equations my brain gets the
same amount of nutrients same amount of blood flow same amount of oxygen so it eats the same meal whether or not it's in a dead Sprint or whether or not it's just chilling on the couch except in deep sleep and when you're in cold water because it's forcing the oxygen up to the brain the second most replayed moment is a moment from my conversation with Dr Tim Spectre a favorite on the Diary of a CEO and here he talks about health more holistically and some of the biggest myths that most of us believe that are
currently standing in our way we've got a fitness group amongst some of my friends there's about 10 of us in it and um we've been tracking how often we work out and how frequently work out and the workouts that we do and one of the things I have to say is pretty much no one in the group has lost any weight we've been doing this for a year and uh that kind of bucks what you would think so the only time that I lost weight was actually when I went on the keto keto diet I
went from 14 Stone 8 to 13 stone8 in roughly in several weeks but exercise and exercising for almost religiously for the last 2 and a half years doesn't really seem to impact my weight at all in a you know in the way that the fitness experts might tell me on Instagram what's your stance on the role that exercise play plays in weight loss has very little role in weight loss all the studies long-term studies show uh it doesn't help uh weight loss and it's been grossly exaggerated as an easy fix for our obesity problem exercise
doesn't help weight loss no all the studies show that the only caveat to that is if you have have changed your diet improved your diet and you've lost some weight at maintaining some exercise does help prevent it going back up again but as on its own if you don't change your diart it's of no use and that's well known Now by all the Obesity experts and all the studies does sugar makers fat is that the culprit is that one of the main things that's contributing to no again that's that's reductionism you know the but the
reason the reason exercise doesn't work it's important to realize this is because we all know this that you know you go for a walk build up Hunger before a meal that's what your parents told you you know and everything about exercise is after it your body slows down your your metabolism slows down and it tries to regain the energy that you've lost that's just what our EV Evolution and so that's why it's a you're not going to it's great for your health I'm I know I exercise fantastic for your mood um it's great for your
heart anti-cancer all kinds of things we should all do it but absolutely not if your goal is weight loss you have to do something about changing your diet and I think that's that's the big a huge myth particularly pereto by gyms and uh fitness apps and everything else and it it is complete nonsense I read that you um when you looked at studies over 30 years and you looked at how many studies had been done on the relationship of exercise and weight versus things like sugar and weight there was 12 more 12 times more studies
done on the relationship of exercise and weight versus sugar and weight and why why is that why is there less research done on the latter um I think that's the influence of governments and the food companies and the drink companies so uh a lot of the exercise research done in the last 20 years was sponsored by uh large corporations who wanted to make this link between uh exercise and weight loss so that they could continue to sell sugary Ultra processed foods and drinks and just say it's you know childhood obesi because we've we don't have
playgrounds and we don't uh encourage this and that's why the the Cokes and the Pepsis are always there at the Olympic sponsoring Olympic events and associating themselves with Sport and they gave hundreds of millions to various physiology departments Sports departments nutrition departments to do research in this area basically it was really hard to get anyone to do research into how sugary drinks make you uh gain weight or cause problems because they the amount of money for nutrition has been abysmally poor you know in from from governments and that's why you know we the only the
first ever study of ultra-processed food in a controlled trial was only about three years ago and it's been around for you know 30 40 years so such is the power of that Lobby that it it doesn't necessarily distort the research in a sort of you know evil way but they point it to make sure that the researchers are working in an area that that they want uh people to work in and distracting them keeping them away from talking about sugars or even artificial sweeters which in my view are nearly as bad because they're sort of
you know hidden um and deflecting us from the idea that yes giving kids sugary drinks or even artificial sweet drinks is going to be bad for them and cause obesity wait so I'm I've been I've cut my I cut out sugary drinks about a year ago I still have the same Brands but I have the no sugar version oh dear oh what do you mean oh dear well all the all the summary of the trials shows that if you take uh young adult young adults and kids and they would say on two cans of you
know full sugar sodas and you change them to the diet version there's no real difference in in weight or um metabolic um changes in their blood uh the you will go to the dentist less so you don't get as many fillings but and yet you you should be gaining 300 calories right if you doing two cans a day so it doesn't work out as it should do and that's because of the extra these chemicals are not inert so the sweeteners in kids they change their their brains to give them they want more Sweetness in their
food okay so it it could reflect your wish for your your late night milk chocolate who knows um and it it makes it very difficult train kids to have more bitter Foods or sour Foods if they've got these artificial sweeteners in their diet all the time but they've now shown that all these sweeteners actually affect your gut microbes so even Stevia you know these sort of so-called healthy ones have an effect on your gut microbes and they're not inert so we know that saccharin and suc also cause spikes in your blood sugar uh when I
did it you know have a trace they not supposed to but they they actually do things they're not supposed to so we know very little about these these products and my view is that they are harmful probably not as bad as having the sugar but they are absolutely not a health drink and we should be encouraging people to have you know teas and kombuchas and uh more more bitter tasting interesting flavors and Foods than just this Ultra sweet uh chemical concoctions it's this sugar conglomerate that have been funding much of the research that points towards
um some of the things you're talking about there there that's also the conglomerate that wants us to believe the calories in calories out approach because if I just view every all foods is kind of equal and on this sort of calorie number then I can drink some of the sugary fizzer fizzy drinks and some of the processed foods as long as I keep it within that sort of calorie deficit I'll be fine and so are they is that Sugar conglomerate is the processed food conglomerate for the calorie model absolutely they need that right they absolutely
it's vital you know zero calories or one calorie you know on the can that's what you see and you know you're fooling people into thinking this is a healthy drink and oh you know if I used to have full Coke or Pepsi and now having the diet version I'm getting 300 calories less a day I should lose weight it's exactly what they've been doing and they're also desperate to show that artificial sweeteners are really healthy and they come down on anyone who who tries to say that they're you know could be any way dangerous and
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link is in the description below it launches in the UK in January because of the demand I'm pretty sure it's going to sell out and here is the single most replayed moment as a it relates to Health on the Diary of a CEO of 2023 so the first thing I came up against because this was around the time of the financial crisis was the lack of understanding of the brain Body Connection so these high performing Executives were kind of acting like their body was just the vehicle that was moving their brain around from meeting to
meeting and both disrespecting their their physical health but also not understanding that what they were actually really being paid for was to use their brain and they weren't creating the best conditions for that brain to operate in um and I'm talking about really basic things like sleep and a good diet and hydration and not being sedentary managing your stress Etc so you know this tiny organ if it's not in an environment that is giving it the best chance of doing its job it's not going to and a crack's going to appear somewhere um and the
first time I really kind of had a big confrontation with a bank was when people were dropping dead on the trading floor of heart attacks and they asked me to work more in my capacity as a former medical doctor to help with the physical stuff and I said I can't do that if we don't address the mental and emotional piece because that's what's causing this and they just could could not get that what did you want to do with those people in a specific and practical sense what if you could have you know been in
charge of preventing them from dropping dead on the trading floor where would you have started the understanding that stress so everything that you're experiencing mentally and emotionally that's challenging and things like a lot of travel which is challenging for your body that that raises levels of the hormone cortisol which comes from your adrenal glands and that cortisol courses around your blood through your entire body and brain and the brain has receptors for understanding what's going on in terms of threat to your survival so in a 24-hour cycle depending on your age and your gender there's
a normal range for cortisol so it can go up and down like this you know if something challenging happens we need to adapt and rise to meet that challenge but when that level is above the top range all the time these receptors in your brain basically think that there's an imminent threat to your survival so there's this whole Cascade of hormones and they basically cortisol causes inflammation in the body so inflammation of your vascular system inflammation around your heart and everything else gut and you know other things but particularly around that time we were seeing
a lot of heart attacks caused by stress this was in the absence of high blood pressure high cholesterol smoking it was all stress once upon a time I Googled um CU I had a thesis I Googled is stress contagious and it came up and it said it was contagious is it contagious in what circumstances do we need to be aware of that contagion and more importantly how and why is it contagious okay I will tell you the answer to that but I'm going to ask you a question first have you ever walked into a room
with someone and by the time you've left that meeting with them you just feel so drained okay so course yeah yeah you know so you know the feeling so I'll I'll tell you how it works physiologically um I'm going to start with something else to like build you up to this story so did you know that women who live together or work closely together will synchronize their menstrual periods within two or three months so whenever I want to explain something that's complex or I don't actually know the current Neuroscience I always take it back to
what happened in ancient times so when we were living in the cave the men hunted and gathered and lived lived quite nomadically so sometimes they would go away for months at a time and in those days the most fundamental important thing for the survival of the human species was that the alpha male must pass on his genes so if he was going to be away for months and he couldn't you know that there weren't men there to defend the women from predators maybe there was going to be a spell of the Ice Age and they
would all freeze to death or they wouldn't have food um he needed to make sure that at least five women were impregnated with his sperm at the same time so that if there was a food shortage or there was like still birth or miscarriage or whatever at least one out of five would survive so to be able to do that they had to be fertile at the same time so that's why that mechanism exists now we don't need that mechanism now but it's still wired into the way that we operate so those sex steroid hormones
like estrogen and progesterone they leak out of our sweat about this far around us and that's why if you're living with another woman or if you know you're sitting across the desk every day then particles of hormone from my sweat would go into the through the skin of the other woman if she's within what distance I mean it's not you wouldn't have to be sitting next to each other if you live together that that means you're interacting enough that it would happen Okay so particles but not not if you work together if you work together
and you sit right next to each other every day then it does happen too so you know in a a small office that's got like six girls in it that that the menstrual synchronization will happen interestingly it's led by the alpha female so yeah so you can you can work out if you don't know already who the alpha female well if you you know basically let's say My Cycles don't change and everyone says oh I got my period early or I haven't had my period yet but now it's started then that would mean that probably
I was the alpha female how does the body know who who the alpha female is that will be to do with levels of testosterone why why did the body why does that matter who the alpha female is why does it matter that they syn up with her I I don't I don't know if it really matters I think it's just a case of physiology so it's a little bit like in the um troops of gorillas the stress levels of the silver bat gorilla affect the other gorillas more than gorillas who are peers to each other
so there is we have a natural hierarchy and it must be related to survival as well so she was probably the person who the alpha male was going to impregnate first probably so everyone needs to kind of fall in line cuz when she starts having sex they need to be ready yeah okay and also it'll probably be to do with things like you know survival genes so it'll be the people with the hardiest genes because that's what you'll want to pass on as well okay makes sense most resilient okay okay so where were we stress
and Contagion all the hormones in the menstrual cycle so basically cortisol is a hormone that works in that same way so cortisol is the main stress hormone and this one doesn't matter if you're male or female but it does matter where you are in the hierarchy of the organization as I just mentioned so usually in that conversation that I mentioned to you where you go into a room and you just feel completely drained afterwards usually the person that comes out feeling drained is less senior than the person that's had that effect on them and that's
why this is so crucial to leadership because your stress levels as a leader as a CEO are going to have more impact on everybody else than the rest of the people um put together basically so managing your stress is obviously important for you but it's important in terms of what happens to other people and the first issue I came up against was CEOs and CFOs that said well I won't show them that I'm stressed I won't I won't tell them what's happening with the numbers I won't display emotions in front of them and I said
they're still going to know physiologically it's going to impact them so now you really have to do something about it um and the other thing about cortisol which is quite funny well one of the side effects is quite funny is that as a survival mechanism it will help you to store fat around your abdomen so you know again in the cave if you were potentially going to like not find food for a month then if you had extra fat around your abdomen you could digest that and survive till you could find food so with my
clients in financial services it got to a point where as soon as I walked into the room they just lift their t-shirt up and say now you know how I've been in the last month so stress causes belly fat belly fat that's really hard to shift so again what I would see with people is that they would say oh I've put on a bit of weight around the middle you know had to loosen the belt a bit so I've started started eating less I've started like exercising more and I still can't shift it and again
that's when I would explain this is the impact of cortisol as long as you're still leaking out extra cortisol nothing's going to change so and like I said even exercising more or eating better less or differently whatever it is wouldn't shift that fat you had to get to the root cause you had to reduce the cortisol for any of you that are still here I have a bonus moment for you I often get asked what is my favorite episode of the dire of a CEO of all time and I often try and avoid that question
because I don't want to pick one particular episode it's kind of like picking your children however because you've gotten here I'm going to reveal it to you and I'm going to play you a moment from that conversation my favorite ever episode on the Diary of a CEO of all time is episode 1001 and it just so happens to be the most shared episode we've ever ever had of all time on WhatsApp and I know that sounds a little bit obscure but the interesting thing about WhatsApp is it's one to one typically so it's typically one
friend sending it to a family member or to a friend or something like that and for it to be the most transferred between one person and another I think is telling about the value of that conversation here is one of the most important moments from my favorite episode on the Diary of a CEO of all time to understand what happiness is you have to understand the cause of it yes and you write about that extensively and solve for happy so what is the cause of unhappiness as you see it especially if you're building sort of
machine learning applications that are going to you know um solve you know make people arrive at contentment or happiness in a personalized way we must be able to know what's causing this lack of allow me a bit of time to explain it because it it's simple when we get it but it's not simple to get to it so so happiness is very predictable okay if if you look back at any point in your life where you ever felt happy there is one commonality across all of those moments that can actually be do be documented in
a mathematical equation okay you've never felt happy because of a specific event in your life okay uh take for example rain rain doesn't make you happy or unhappy there is no inherent value of happiness in Rain okay rain makes you happy when you want to water your plants and it makes you unhappy when you want to sunbath right and so it it's not just the event rain it's the comparison between the event and an expectation in your mind of how life should be okay if you're worried about your plants then life should be generous to
me and get me rain so I can water the plants and if life does that then life meets your expectations and you're happy okay and so happiness in that sense becomes equal to or greater than so it's really mathematics the your perception of the events of your life minus your expectations of how life should be okay and apply that to anything apply that to anything so you know my favorite example is nature we're all happy in nature why are we all happy in nature I mean you go out there and there are ants and there
are flies and you know trees are crooked and there are you know shrubs everywhere and bushes and it's just really not that hedged and organized but that's what we expect so you know Nature's chaos is what we expect nature to be and so we feel happy you know nobody ever sits in front of the ocean and says I like the view but please mute the sound okay you just take it you know it's it's the monotonous sound and the view and the wind and and the Sun and the whole experience right uh and because of
that uh happiness becomes very different than what was defined to us okay what was defined to us is that happiness is found in a a gathering at the pub or a party or a you know an activity or some kind of pleasure or fun or Elation or whatever that is that's not at all true these I I call these the state of Escape okay happiness as per the definition of the happiness equation is events equal to or beating expectations life going my way okay and so basically happiness is that calm and peacefulness you feel when
you're okay with life as it is it doesn't really matter what life is okay what matters is that you can be okay with it right so so you take you know the any example huh if your boss is annoying and your expectation is yeah bosses are annoying this is what life is about they become bosses because they're annoying right and and so if if that's your expectation you're going to look at it and go like yeah I need to learn the skill of managing annoying bosses okay and if that's the case then you're not going
to be upset about it uh similarly any anything else if you look at it then it's not just the event it's your perception of the event so you have a something to influence it's not just the event huh your partner might say something hurtful on Friday at 4 p.m. that's the event my partner said something hurtful at Sunday morning you tell yourself he or she doesn't love me anymore okay that's your perception of the event that's not actually the event the event is something hurtful was said but your perception of the event is is your
work is your it's your brain adding color to it and then you compare that to your expectations right you compared my boss is annoying to my boss shouldn't be annoying where did you get that from right so we blur the happiness equation we break the happiness equation because of what I call the six and seven okay six Grand Illusions and seven blind spots which are the six Grand Illusions are basically uh call them Pathways uh that the modern world teaches us to navigate the modern world that our Illusions are not true okay take for example
control everyone knows that to succeed in the modern world you have to learn to control certain events right so you start to believe that the way to succeed in life is to control everything but the truth is even if you go down to the basics of physics that we never are in control that the the absolute design of nature itself of the universe itself is European chaos right that's the actual design and so if you try to control it you're bound to be disappointed a lot of events are going to miss your expectations okay and
yes I'm not saying don't control anything at all but start to understand that you're you're going to be selective because you have a finite amount of effort and by the way even if you're selective and you you try to control everything sometimes things will fall out of control okay and that should be your expectation once you get that right that was one that was my biggest illusion okay I a mathematician I'm a software developer I am a physicist I am an engineer and I'm a senior executive that doesn't get worse than that okay I'm like
the worst absolute the worst I used to give my wonderful wife I swear to you Stephen don't judge me I used to give her a spreadsheet that would tell her when to wash the colors and when to wash the whites based on our average consumption as a family to save the environment and poror Nebel would would actually smile at me and say sure baby I will use this of course and ignores the hell out of me because that's how crazy you can be when it comes to control now these are the Illusions if you live
your life through the illusion of control good luck finding happiness so six Grand Illusions the illusion of uh of thought the illusion the illusion of self the illusion of uh knowledge the illusion of time control and fear okay now that's one side and that this disrupts your your entire view of what to expect from life because you're expecting life to behave through a length of a a lens of an illusion the other side of it is what I call Seven blind spots okay and the Seven blind spots are not really defects in your brain as
a matter of fact they are the very design of your brain okay your brain is designed to tell you what's wrong okay it's not designed to you know if a Tiger shows up right here now my brain has no you use whatsoever in telling me Oh my god look how Majestic that animal is right yeah it's a beautiful animal but my brain will say we're going to die okay and we're going to die is the idea that basically makes our uh our brain constantly look for what's wrong blur the events of life huh you ask
a mother and and she will say oh my daughter's been sick all winter no she just had two episodes of flu 3 days each but to the to to the Caring Heart of a mother that needs to be exaggerated to the exaggeration is one of the blind spots your your brain is trying to get you to take action so it pushes you it pushes You by exaggerating the event a little bit so that you jump in and take action and accordingly the event you're comparing to you're comparing the wrong event to the wrong expectation and
the happiness equation falls apart isn't this cool every single conversation I have here on the DI of AO at the very end of it you'll know I asked the guest to leave a question in the Diary of a CEO and what we've done is we've turned every single question written in the Diary of a CEO into these conversation cards that you can play at home so you've got every guest we've ever had their question their name and on the back of it if you scan that QR code you get to watch on your phone the
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get down to level three the questions become a little bit more challenging a little bit more vulnerable and that's really where connection happens to test the power of these cards we invited 20 total strangers to come and have dinner and the only thing they had to do was answer a level three question that was put in front of them in a room full of strangers and we saw unbelievable almost magical results people in tears people forming lifelong friendships and people unlocking truths within them that they' been too scared to confront vulnerability is the door to
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