Entering The Storerooms of Worship || Cultural Catalysts with Steffany Gretzinger

ministering to him in the secret place living in Matthew 6 When you pray go into your room and shut the door go go in there shut the door right and and I was reading the other day that door there in the Greek is store room which was would have been like the only room in the house with a door at that time and I was I was blown away by that because I was like oh store up Treasures in Heaven that the that he would be the reason and the reward right that it's the Delight

is in moving moving his heart and I think that if we worship more at home not not with YouTube on not with sound not with someone else singing or playing but out of the Overflow of looking at him it's the natural response to beholding it's the natural response response to beholding the lamb who was slain and so when we look at him and we push out all the other like things that's that's the thing too right we've got a generation that can just pop on YouTube and be led by anyone else but our children need

to know how to engage the presence of the Lord to know who he really is in the secret place not from YouTube Because when that all shuts down like and they don't know how to talk to the Lord on their own in in a closed room we're lost so I think that it's the I think the way home is is the shut door it's the store room it's closing the door and being intentional to Worship in secret more than we worship from a platform [Music] [Applause] [Music] welcome to cultural Callis where we teach you how

to live Fully Alive C- labor with God and change the world and I have one of my really good friends and also uh my former student and uh she's like in some ways like a spiritual daughter to me and to many others actually uh Stephanie gringer thank you so much for being on and uh thank you for kind of G you know leaving your vacation to do this this uh this interview H how are you doing a little update like tell everyone where you're living because you know a lot of you know a lot of

them know you from bethl right right so you you've happened to give some birth to some more children yes that's true so we moved to the Lord moved us to Franklin Tennessee we're a part of Grace Center Church with Jeff and Becky dollar now Wells Spring Well Springs which is um Stephen and I we had another little guy his name is Wilder um so we have wonder and Wilder just the names himself like what are you raising man what are you raising oh my word he was and he was 10 pounds 11 ounces so he's

he's he's going to be a mighty man of of Valor that's what I know and for people who may not know you are a a not you're a very a thin lady so that had to be tiny a tiny tiny person yes who birthed a big old boy by the grace of God by the grace of God you're probably still healing what was that a couple years ago yes Ju Just over two years ago and we are still coming together thank you Jesus still thank thank the Lord for physical therapists and and yeah and all

that yeah yes and all all of the helpers and all the helpers yeah yes but we're doing well these babies are growing beautifully and they're in really uh wonders in a really precious school um we just the I feel like the Lord tucked Us in and this church family has been a gift to us they've really mothered and fathered us and just we are thriving relationally and in community and we're we're really grateful wonder is one smart kid and uh she's got to be well let me guess she's got to be like eight is she

that old she's she's gonna be 10 next month oh my gosh 10 10 years old it's flown by it's flown by wow yeah and she uh you know every time I'm with her she's she my my uh newest granddaughter reminds me of her because uh Jay and Lauren had a uh a girl named Edie and she's like high communication skills at 2 years old she was carrying on full conversations just like Wonder in fact we were talking about when she was two we were talking about like this is just like Wonder like she has the

same kind of spirit it's true yeah it's true from all the stories you told me I'm like oh my goodness well and I I'm sure that we kind of we talk to our kids the same way exactly in a lot of way yeah yeah fun you graduated from school Ministry in 2008 is that true or you were in school Ministry I came I came to reading 2008 2009 so that that was my first year and so I did SE I only did second year I tried to do third year but Gabe told me he didn't

have anything for me and he said go away and so then I just kept you know uh staying close to worship part of the house and and then we um moved here in 2019 yeah you were part of the bethl music label for quite some time on our stage all the time and I think you wrote the the uh song pieces did you not yes with Amanda yeah the reason I say this because it's on my iPod and it plays all the time so yeah so glad to be on your playlist that makes me happy

Stephanie come on W the wild Stephanie like such a catalyst so what's your wor ship Journey been like I know that you're doing some things for Jesus image we talked off offline for just a few minutes and uh and what what you know can you take us back to the beginning kind of like what Drew you into worship and and tell us about your journey now sure um I mean I I grew up in a house that was I I have memories all of my childhood of um being in ending up in prayer or worship

you know when people would come over to the house we would laugh and cry and then we would pray and worship and I remember you know Dad praying out we all ended up in uh in that in his presence and then Mom would sit down to the Keys and then it was all over from there you know so I I I have this really rich Heritage they when I was born my parents were actually together because my dad sang and played too wow um he was actually a really brilliant musician so they were on the

road in Ministry together in music and um when I was born and I was on the road with them so just a really my grandparents were uh Ministers of music and pastors so teachers and so it was it was really um was in there it was going to happen some way or another you know uh I I never actually I think this is the sweetest part for me is that um I used to be terrified I don't know if you and I think you and I have talked about this but I don't remember I used

to be terrified to be in front of people I was horrified I would when my parents would call me up to sing with them I would run out of the room crying often I was so scared and um so I never really I didn't really have a desire to do that I didn't um think that that was going to happen necessarily at all the way that it has and so the Lord I just wanted him to have my life and and when we um when I was 11 you're going to love this if you don't

remember this you're going to love it when I was like 11 years old I had this reoccurring dream over and over about a building that I I could never see what was on it it was blurry but it was up a hill and it was lined with flags from the nation seriously I'm serious see I try to tell you like this is your home Stephanie okay we need Stephen I'm gonna I'm I'm texting Stephen after this call like ET come home what would I knew about I I had it all the time and I remember

sitting with I loved hanging out with my dad after after after youth group I would run to my dad's class because I knew it would still be going and everybody would be you know praying there and they would still you know so I would run and hang around with the adults and all of their friends and I would we would talk about these things and I remember telling them numerous times like I'm still having this dream and then all these years later I'd find myself coming to visit climbing that Hill and I remember bursting into

tears Chris and thinking I don't know what you want to do with me here but you're going to I know that this is going to change my life forever that's beautiful and it and it's exactly what happened I had no idea that he would use me the way even that he has I still I still can't believe it because you know you know I wouldn't pick me you you know you maybe you would pick you I don't I don't no I'd pick you though well that's really sweet but um but I you know I would

have never and never would have ever felt equipped for that but Jesus he he he can do anything with a life that's his and I so I'm I'm we are grateful for bethl church and for all of you it changed my life forever Stephanie you're a musician a worship leader and a writer you're also a propheus so the global worship movement that we're all kind of a part of right where do you see it going like like do you have any like you know like Direction warning like Vision like maybe all the above like where

do you see it going sure I'm I mean I think I I think right now we're in a I think the Lord is Turning Tables over that's why I think we're I think we're going a few different directions right now but I do think soon it's going to narrow down to one or the other you know I I I think I think people are remembering and recognizing all over that we've really in a lot of ways wandered from Jesus um writing a lot of songs and do you know a lot of things that are more

solish they're less about Jesus and they're more about us and what we get out of this what we get out of it and those are they're true and they're powerful declarations they're just they're just not to him you know they're not gazing at him and um and I think those are powerful but I think what he's Desiring I don't think those are the songs we'll be singing around the throne yeah I think what he's Desiring is to to be seen and and beh held and the right response comes from that right it's not from looking

at ourselves anyway so I I think that what's happening is you know Babylon is falling in the worship world because I I don't think that he ever desired that it became a genre um I don't think it was ever meant to go that direction but I think that there are so many pure hearts like this is where it's it is right now and I do the Lord's used it right he's he's more humble than we are as I have a dear friend that always say he's more always reminds me he's more humble than we are

and he'll do things that you you would never do and he'll he'll move in ways that you you you know wouldn't and so I I think I I see a lot of writing actually returning to Jesus to the Cross to his life to his death to his resurrection not not just like a um sort of a a big party about what we get out of it and um and I think it's it's going to change us if if we'll keep our eyes on Jesus it's very simple I think um so you think that the worship

so from your perspective I mean maybe this is exactly what you're saying but yeah you you're feeling like you said Babylon was falling so you feel like the worship movement as a you know a global movement yeah has gotten off track and and maybe do do it's kind of become a little bit more Empire is than kingdom yes that and and that's a a brilliant way to say it I I think that we and this is not true of you know little churches that don't it it is one of the biggest tests for any of

us that have you know now that we have screens and we have cameras and the gift is that it goes further right like it we can send this to the Nations right now not like you know um but there is the side of it that if we're not careful you know it becomes we get very comfortable there's it's it's not been as costly you know it's been um very glorified the whole it's been like become very cool to be a worshipper and um and that's that's not the way it is biblically you know we we've

kind of got we've gotten very into production and moved away from the priesthood and we've neglected our Priestly Duty our our our um our ministering to him first it's not it's not actually it's not our ministry to minister to the people as worshippers this was never it's not why we're here right but um uh or or to get them to do something but to minister to him first and everything else follows that so I think that we're returning I think it's a big ship to turn around because I think we really wandered off quite far

but he's merciful and I really believe he's doing that yeah what's the what's the way home look like Steph what's the way home look like I can say what it it feels like for me I think that the Lord even even in my heart through these years I think it's the constant living in that psalm 139 that constantly living in the place of communion saying search me and know me search me and know me ministering to him in the secret place living in Matthew 6 When you pray go into your room and shut the door

go go in there shut the door right and and I was reading the other day that door there in the Greek is store room which was would have been like the only room in the house with a door at that time and I was I was blown away by that because I was like oh store up Treasures in Heaven that the that he would be the reason and the reward right it's the Delight is in moving moving his heart and I think that if we worship more at home not not with YouTube on not with

sound not with someone else singing or playing but out of the Overflow of looking at him it's the natural response to beholding it's a natural response response to beholding the lamb who was slain and so when we look at him and we push out all the other like things that's that's the thing too right we've got a generation that can just pop on YouTube and be led by anyone else but our children need to know how to engage the presence of the Lord to know who he really is in the secret place not from YouTube

cuz when that all shuts down like and they don't know how to talk to the Lord on their own in in a closed room we're lost so I think that it's the I think the way home is is the shut door it's the store room it's closing the door and being intentional to Worship in secret more than we worship from a platform right yeah to be led by him in worship to say what is it that you desire I don't want to just try out my new favorite song I've written and see how it hits

the crowd do you think that there's a lot of songs written not just in our era but you know I mean I'm I'm way older than you are and even before my time you know a lot of lot of songs written around um that that are not um directed at the at the father necessarily but are directed at the body of Christ yes yes um do you how do are are you in in your in your articulation I'm like are you feeling like those are wrong no and yeah let me see if I can even

say it better I think I think there's a time and a place for those and I actually think um I don't want to I don't want to I want to be so careful not even to create a formula that's that would be so arrogant I that's not what I think what I'm trying to say is that we um as we we return to sing ministering first to him singing s you know singing song from him through him to him or all things and if we write songs from this place this place of communion from seeing

Christ and him crucified right and we're we're singing these songs about him um then it's amazing how these other songs flow from that place right uh I just think we have to make sure it's not our starting point and I think it's beautiful because I think the Lord gives us songs for the church to sing I just think he wants more songs about himself and not songs about the church right yeah I think for them like I think he gives us songs for the church right to sing that are powerful no I I think that's

powerful I just don't think it is the first point yeah I love the song you know the songs that we sing to the Lord yes as you're pointing out you know the worship it's a it got to be it's got to be a real expression of our heart it's not worship right like worship is not music worship is is our expression is heart which however it comes out but I also love the song of the Lord where this where the Lord is singing over the congregation yes Absolut you know uh he's the the bridegroom and

often the bridegroom is singing over the bride and I I love both but I I see uh your point too I think I think uh it's you know obviously uh to create an an ecosystem where people can actually give themselves especially talented people can give themselves totally to uh the writing of songs that that people that can sing resing right that there's an ecosystem and sometimes that and that includes the economic side of it yes but then if we're not careful it can all it can be all about the financial side of it right right

and and then it it becomes a polluted well because the goal of it is how do we make money instead of how do we honor the Lord and how do we and how do we grow the body of Christ like how do we how do we grow the body of Christ right and well it's kind of like you know when you were talking it made me think of the scripture that talks about if if the eye the eye is the lamp of the body right if the eye is clean the whole body is clean there's

something about like the the there's something about beholding there's something think about what we're taking in and if our if if our sight because we are the bride and he and he's coming back for a bride that looks like him because she's been beholding him yeah and I think he trusts us with the song of the Lord when we're ravished with him exactly right yeah that's and that's where um if we get obsessed with just um I I've been in places and this is really it's sweet because I I feel the hunger right feel hunger

for that moment when the Lord takes over and we're all just going what are you going to do next I I you know I love that you know I love the song of the yeah so I I love that space but I've I've stopped I've stopped living for it I've stopped right I'm I'm wait I'm I'm going okay what is it you desire and and I think so that in in being ravished by him he leads us into that place right I've been in some places where they're like they they want to stop the music

they're like and then we're going to we're just going to right here we're just going to play and then you just go you just do Stephanie and I'm like oh I and I know what they I know what they're wanting to make room for but I'm also I also feel the bit of the bit of like Obsession we've had with you know this this other um these moments right but I I think that to they're meant to be together and that if we're ravished by him if if we're that bride that's been gazing at our

bridegroom then he he takes over us with love and the song of the Lord comes out and it I just think it's beautiful it's all there's it's a place for all of it yeah one of the things that I love about you specifically you know when you're you know on our teams is that that prophetic mantle that's on you as we are in worship often the Lord uses you to speak to his people through song and through prophetic declaration so I I love that we're singing to the Lord when it's you know when it's when

it's really right and pure we're singing the Lord and then it's not uncommon for people that have your the mantle that you're carrying to be a a vessel where the Lord sings back to his people yes it's like he can't help he can't help himself so much it's so wonderful I I love I love both of those when you know again motive motive is Magic right the motive is the magic right there it's it's the truth it's um hey so you're in now you're in Nashville so like what as far as you know you kind

of migrated to Nashville it's you know the city of music of course probably the most famous music place maybe in the world but definitely in in us and so so what what's God doing in that area in that region I mean I I I think honestly I think a lot of what we're talking about I mean this this is sort of like a Nashville's like right Nashville's biggest thing is probably country music and then other than that it's like Christian music yeah really um and again we we've had a whole lot of there's a lot

of mixture right there's a lot of mixture and the Lord I think is he's sifting Us in his kindness right so when we stand before him this we just doing it now we're just let's do this now let's let him search us and know us and and judge those things now so that when we stand before him that we've we've come pure because we let him do that the work of the cross in us here and I I I think that um there are tons of people that I'm I'm running into I think this has

been a really um he's been like digging us deep here so I think that we're we're just now starting to go out a little bit but he's been there's been you know he's been digging deep roots in us and our family like strengthening our our family he's doing so much of that the the gret singers and um fathering us and just doing such a work in in us just personally and I've been so thankful for that and and I and tucked Us in and now I think you know he's I feel a bit like pulled

back in his bow um as a family and we're just trying to follow but I think in the in the region I think there's so many beautiful worshiping hearts that that are realizing man this is this is so gotten out of hand like so much of the world has crept into yeah what we're doing and um you know even like and P you please hear me when I say this is my my mom received du Awards you know for what for writing when I was a kid and I thought it was so cool to see

her as a writer get honored so I think there's so much Beauty in it but then there's like this worship side of things and I'm going I it's like they just look like little tiny golden calves we're just receiving right we're just getting honored for these so it's weird there there's a real tension right now uh yeah there's a real tension and holding it not in this arrogant judgmental place like or being on the other side and going this is normal and I really like receiving rewards for you know my worship there's a there's somewhere

in the Lord is trying to bring us all to I think um back to a place of humility back to a place where you know no one is attached to anything but Jesus they're not attached to uh what blows up being seen being known um you know the title of it it kind of comes back to motive right it's it is the motive is the magic just like you said and I think I think that it is I think it's a beautiful work that he's doing it's amazing how many people are moving there and I

really believe it's because the Lord's on the move I don't think it's a negative thing I think that the Lord is um I think he really wants to turn over the table Yeah of performance you know yeah I I I would agree I think that it isn't just in the worship move it's it's the whole not whole body of Christ as we see like you know in a the discipline of the Lord is on the house of God right now if you can't see that you're kind of like I don't know what world you're a

part of but it's not the it's not the kingdom world for sure no we're we're he he's so he we're passing under the shepherd's Rod yeah but the gift is like that and that's that's not fun so often but but it but it is the gift is proximity to the shepherd yeah you know he reproves those he loves yeah if if we're not being corrected we're not close yeah actually U you know what's uh uh Hebrews 12 says like you're actually a bastard not a son yes if you don't receive correction but correction isn't fun

it's not no it's not fun yeah I I don't but it is loving yeah how is uh motherhood and uh I don't know how you say wifehood how how's that affecting your your uh how's that shaping your intimacy with the Lord oh oh goodness oh goodness uh I've actually been talking to the Lord about this a lot I think um I feel like my faith grows every day as a mom because you give your children back to the Lord every day and when you name one Wild Childer you have to yeah um did you know

that was going to be a prophetic declaration when you nam I I did but I don't know that I just I didn't you know not physically yet um I knew that with both the kids but I you never can know how it's going to be really um so I I I feel the um the the gentleness you know that let your gentleness be evident to all the Lord is near I feel the gentleness um of being a parent like I I feeling I think even since my dad passed I feel the the heavenly father fathering

me in ways that I may not have let him if my dad was still here wow and there's something happening in my heart CU I wouldn't have done it this way of course I would still have him here but the Lord knew and and he's doing something in me this this parenting heart of God and I think I can speak for Stephen too absolutely in that that we're we're going o only you can only the Holy Spirit can lead us to really parent these children in the hour they're living in I could be raising Martyrs

and I'm very I like I I'm really I'm trying to raise them that way I I I'm just boldly raising them that way you know like this it's that in Deuteronomy when it talks about the the greatest commandment love the Lord your God with all your your heart soul mind and strength and then it goes on and says talk about these things wherever you are whatever you're doing as you walk along the way teach them teach them and talk about it and so as it's changing I don't I I don't know I'm asking the Lord

to do the work of the cross in me and that he would give me Grace to teach my kids things I'm still learning yeah and so I feel like the loneliness and like the humility of Jesus to go oh you're trusting me with these precious gifts to teach them things that you are still working out in me yeah and so I feel I feel the absolute honor and I feel very humbled every day I think the Lord I feel like he's brought me in his kindness lower and lower and continues to do that and I'm

so grateful I'm so grateful I'm as far as being a wife good grief he is he's done a work in US like I know you know all of that but I know some of it for sure yeah well it's just been such a just such a miracle to live in and um and Jesus has been so faithful to us and I have learned like what it means to be a wife who prays I mean prays for her husband and her children not like you're at the end of the day when you're going to sleep and

you're like and thank you Lord and we pray for so and so and so and so I mean like I mean like praying heaven down in the nights and in the season you know when no one's watching prayers you know like I saw my dad do my whole life and um it's just been mindblowing to see God answer in the most incredible tiny ways and and go only you could have done this to stand back and go who is like the Lord who's like the Lord only you could have done that no one could attach

themselves to the answer to this prayer this can only be God and so I think think um the Lord because of the message that I feel like he's help me Lord put me in the earth to be like to that there's a a bridegroom coming back for a bride and to help point just point people back to the bridegroom and to make themselves ready and um to buy oil because you can't buy time to to learn to to buy oil the oil of intimacy in the secret place you know and to be here for that

reason he's going to test that message in you right the the test of intimacy the test of the bride and the bridegroom and so the Lord he has tested me he's tested us and um and he's helped us so I I I feel the Lord um doing a deep work in us so that he can do a deep work through us um but I just I feel the gift of just what he's doing in us at this point I feel the gift of a of Simply Walking With Jesus the Gospel of Jesus in everyday life

washing my dishes talking to him while I teach my kids as I go and I love my husband through the day I feel I just feel the Delight of the Lord and his nearness in this simple gospel trying to love the ones in front of us and I don't know it's I don't know if I'm answering it well but it is changing me to love my husband to love my children and I'm learning a lot I'm learning a lot and it's a humbling it's a humbling beautiful thing you uh you guys plucked your family up

out of a culture that right yes a little bit chosen for you right I mean you know come the Bel thousands of people very you know and you you know you re you you you resettled your entire family across the country and and how did you you know I I I I love this phrase show me your friends and I'll show you your destiny and I think you know who we surround oursel with matters right proverb says that um if you he says U that if you hang out with righteous people you become righteous but

if you hang out with fools you become foolish so how you know as you guys reestablished yourself yes and kind of moved your whole family across the country like what did you like what did you look for in in in you know yeah re reestablishing your family like what would you look for in friendship and and then also I know with your as your with with children you one of the most powerful things you do for your children is you help them to find the right kind of friends right that's right that's right you know

I I felt like thankfully the Lord moved us and so when he did he had a plan for us there you know and um I'm really grateful I I am Stephen is actually quicker to make friends than I am I I I've I love people I'm a pastor's daughter but maybe it makes me a little slower to get super close but when I'm but I love people and I love to go to a place of depth quickly um uh but I I don't just you know throw my heart into anybody that seems like we could

be a good match you know I'm not I'm not like we didn't come out here to coup's date and go maybe we could be besties like as far as we were concerned the Lord had given us really wonderful people in our lives and um some of those who are far away even you know uh like for for me personally and Stephen has had some of his own friends and then we've grown in relationships together right but for me like you know you know with the hellers were already far away you know the kolanos um who

have just become some of our absolute dearest I've been so grateful for them were far far and then you know our our best friends in Reading were are you know we're now far too but I just knew like the Lord was organically sort of changing those things um for for our everyday life people right we couldn't they couldn't be our everyday life people anymore yeah we needed to be in the land really get ourselves in the ground where the Lord um was planning us and so when we when we came to church I mean I

was really slow Ste Stephen like meets people everywhere doing what he does building and yeah you know like he meets people everywhere and has amazing conversations he he's really amazing at that I'm always um inspired by him that way he's like yo I met like so and so today and I'm like and they all these connections that I think he just supernaturally has on his life um but our pastors actually Jeff and Becky at church they would just kind of go he he just go hey have you met so and so and I'm like no

no I'm sure I will sometimes he's like I really think maybe you should meet so and so and I'm like okay you know I you know great that's great I'm you know yeah I'll meet her sometime at church or you know whatever and then Stephen actually um the c one of the couples were actually closest to here um early on um their names are the Willards they're absolutely stunning he's actually been in worship for years you remember Mickey Robinson of course you know Mickey so it's Mickey's daughter Elizabeth yeah and and Brian and Elizabeth they're

um their kids just became some of our dearest but Stephen went out with him first and they connected and I don't even know how much longer it was until Elizabeth and I did but that was the beginning I think of community really here um and what inspires you about them like what what inspires me about them is that they've the conversation always starts and ends with Jesus and they're living they have three teenage girls they're living the gospel their testimony is is about Jesus their whole their whole world they they're a blast they laugh all

the time there's so much joy but though there is a depth of intimacy there that we were able just to like Dive Right into only the holy spirit gives you Rel relationships of that depth that soon you can't you can't you can't make I love that song You Know You Can't Make Old Friends yeah like you can't just introduce yourself one day to an old friend it takes time and history but only the Lord can give you friends like that without the history so beautiful and so he he gave them to us and it's built

through you know it's built since then with with more and is still growing but I think the biggest thing for me was going trusting our past Pastor trusting our pastor not being Lone Rangers and going you know and for me it was a big deal not to just go start connecting I know tons of people in the music world and they're I love them all but we needed a planting an everyday life like to have a community of people that wasn't just on the road all the time do you know what I'm saying it like

that we are doing life together like all the good the bad the ugly if we need each other we show up and as we can and so that's that's what we're doing and the Lord moved us really close to them too very Supernatural and so he's just building a beautiful community of people to worship together they have teenagers so we get to be a part of these wildly worshiping teenagers who are in love with Jesus and watching them burn and light up and T and just preach the gospel in their high schools and gather hundreds

of young people right they just became the youth leaders at our church and man so it's wonderful because wonders around older teens that are in love with Jesus and um you know and that's so good it's just good that it's what I was looking for that exactly that's beautiful hey last question this is called cultural catalst we actually started this you know this podcast thinking about you know my passion you've been with me so long like you know like I want to change the world you know I I want to change the world for Jesus

you know I want the kingdoms of this world become the kingdom of our God and so amen you know so we're like okay well how do how do we you know H H so this is like a this is aimed out of the church and like how so we we interview people obviously you're a worship leader but we interview a lot of people that are loving loving Jesus but taking them to places that you know the church the quote the quote Church the traditional Church doesn't go what from your perspective uh you know how how

are you transforming culture or or you could just say how does the worship movement transform culture I don't I don't care how you answer that question but musically the word says in front are the singers I think something happens when we set his word his story when we set the Life of Christ to music and we sing to him we the worship of Jesus that Priestly Ministry when we sing to him and Look to Him First and everything else follows and and he gives us the battle not because we're doing it to win it but

we're doing it because he's worthy totally right but he delivers our enemies into our hands because we're a people who worship we've made him his presence his great worth our our our ministry our aim our Obsession and because of that he can trust us with the rest because uh I I believe that what what holds our gaze will eventually hold our hearts oh that's a good so I I isn't that good yeah we got to put that right there in the chat what holds our gaze holds that's beautiful we eventually hold our hearts and I

do think that if we'll Behold Him if we'll be singer and this isn't about you don't have to be able to sing to be a worshipper like you don't have to but or to sing like you just but in front are the singers and I do believe that's not just physically but that's that's from here the ones who worship him right enter his gates with Thanksgiving come into His courts with praise the way in is you know is that Ministry to him the Gratitude so I I I believe that if we want to see the

world change not just the ones who are appointed as priests in the music way but I think if we're first worshippers that's then we'll always be on the front lines yeah whether we but it's you know like we're we a people of worship and and and end up being you know the the the enemy is delivered into our hands reminds me of Psalms 139 you know the high praises of God in our mouth and a two-edged sword in our hand and then it talks about you know smiting Kings with vengeance talking about demonic forces and

wrapping Kings in feds of iron and and it it all begins with with the high praises of God in our mouth so worship becomes Warfare right it's War warship yes I've Loved you've you've always taught that and I I've always loved it and the Beautiful part is that as we get lost in him he like he readies our hands for battle right right he readies our hands for battle but the the beautiful thing is it's the weapon is that we is is that we worship Our Eyes Are Fixed he prepares a table before us in

the presence of our enemies right yes there's there's there's war all around us but he teaches us first to come and feast yes and he is the feast he's the feast so I think that I think for all of us not just for not just for the music the musical ones for all of us worship the feasting on him right it's so beautiful that's what happens Stephanie do you have any uh I I don't even answer this question do you have anything new coming out you're have you done something recently well uh not since the

narrow way we oh you did the narrow way though the narrow way I don't remember when that came I think it was last year I don't remember um we are yes there are like a a number of things um that I feel the Lord breathing on just tiny little things and we'll just um see when they happen I don't have any ambition attached to them just trying to follow uh the word as he gives it to us but um yes there there's more coming so we're excited for his timing on it yeah thanks for spending

so much time with me I love you sorry I missed you last month when you were sick and couldn't do it and and I love your family your husband remodeled our cabin and got we got him and I got really close in those days because I was you know with we were together a lot and uh I love you guys a lot I miss you and I'm gonna uh just begin to pray that the Lord gives you brings you home you know I know will you got your new home I know you got your new

home that's no we love you but it's it will always be home to come back to you I love you and let's see for the uh for our audience uh Stephanie Dawn Daw in is there Instagram you can follow you on Instagram and catch your news you might not see anything except once a year but you could but you I love you Stephanie back to your family vac thank you so much for joining us [Music]