in order for us to find love a part of us Must Die o wait wait wait wait why do we need to die to find love a part of us because anything that's not love in US Must Die oh and that's the difference between knowing the path and walking the path all the people that you've seen have successful longterm relationships what is the thing that you see them do extremely well versus oh if you can't forgive you'll never have love wow the love that we withhold is the pain that we experience lifetime after lifetime it's
how it is falling in love with yourself is falling in love with life and falling in love with life is falling in love with yourself whatever it is that's standing in the way between you and love that's the journey anything that's not love in US must die this is something you say to everyone in your Retreats what would love do I'm curious how do you answer that for yourself [Music] um I think you got to have a dream the school of greatness really yeah please welcome Le how welcome back every more of the School of
greatness very excited about our guest we have the inspiring jod spenza in the house Dr jod spenza we uh have had you on the show many times and I think you're probably the most requested person back that we've had and the last time we did an interview about love self-love loving others and relationships it got over 10 million views with a couple of different you know in Spanish and English translations and some reason people were just really wanted to understand the concepts not of how to find the right partner or any of these different things
but really how to love themselves better you know if you want to attract or manifest a great relationship what I understood from that previous interview was you really got to learn how to love yourself better and that is all about doing the work to overcome the old you that hold you back or that has made you attract people that maybe hurt you or upset you or let you down but also I I feel like a lot of people haven't learned how to fully love themselves and so you're not a relationship expert but for whatever reason
over 10 million people wanted to watch your content on on love and relationships and you know I'm not here to ask you about your personal relationships but you've worked with trained and coached tens of thousands of people that come to your events who go on to have beautiful relationships first with themselves which I think is the most important thing but then eventually you know they rekindle relationships that are maybe struggling they really become a different person and attract from a a conscious healthy place and have more love in their life and I think a lot
of people want to get out of pain and they want to feel peace Harmony and love and one of the highest frequencies that I learned about from your event by going to your Advanced Meditation Retreat was that the frequency of gratitude and love allows you to bring just more goodness in your life and that comes with relationships and and attracting others who bring you that loving mirror so I know this is something that you don't talk about that much but I feel like you have a lot of wisdom around brain and heart coherency which allows
you to attract a healthier love for self a healthier love for the world and a healthier love in relationships and I'd love to explore more of this based on what we talked about before so thank you for being thank you for being here and being will to talk about this I know this is uncomfortable um but people are so they resonate with you as a human and your wisdom and your experience you've been doing this work for a long time and I'm curious why do you think people struggle first off with learning to love themselves
and be in a healthy relationship with self why is that is it because they're disappointed about their past and they're stuck in the memory of the past is it because they've been let down in relationships by their parents and then by their siblings or by intimate Partners or is it just they don't believe they're worthy of Love yeah I think at our true core at our true source is pure love that's what I think it is and I think there's always more love to experience I don't think that is there's an end to that so
um people who hate themselves will hate others and people who are angry with themselves will be angry at others people who are impatient with others will be impatient uh with themselves will be impatient with others people um who are unhappy with themselves will punish other people until they feel unhappy uh it's just our nature as human beings but when people are truly grateful uh for themselves or for their life they're they're they're grateful for others so people who love themselves naturally love others people who are okay finally with themselves are are okay with others you
know it's just kind of how it is so one of the things that people have as a limitation uh to the understanding of Love is that they're feeling something other than it and in order for us to find love a part of us Must Die o or wait wa wait why why why do we need to die to find love or part of us because anything that's not love in US Must Die oh and that's the difference between between knowing the path and walking the path right so um so one of the things that we
want to teach people in the work that we do is understand how to manage their energy right and and how to manage their attention um when you feel love uh which is just a word by the way and people have their own experience of what that is you tend to feel more whole uh and when you feel more whole you tend to want less when you truly feel love uh um it is very different than being selfish you're kind of more selfless and when you're in your heart you're more prone to give you're more prone
to care you're more prone to be present uh you're more prone to um be grateful uh you're more prone to be kind that's the consciousness of that Center it is the the creative center it's the union of opposites it's the Union POI is where Oneness where Divinity starts right there can't be enough enough set about that Center so if you just did an inventory of the amount of time you feel love during the day and the amount of time you feel other emotions like resentment or impatience or frustration or judgment or jealousy any other one
of those emotions that is the opposite of love fear is fear is not the opposite of love it is the separation from love pain and suffering they're not the opposite of Love they're the separation from it that anger and hatred and hostility and violence they're not the opposite of Love they're the separation from love right so so then if you're living in survival and living in survival is living in stress and living in stress produces a cocktail of chemicals and hormones that make you feel something other than love turns out majority of time people are
feeling something other than love and they're feeling some of those other emotions so you only get good at what you practice right and those emotions will drive certain human behaviors that from primarily Universal and will cause us to think in very predictable ways right so the separation from love because of an event or a trauma or whatever it is causes people to view their life through a different lens than love right okay so teach a person how to stop feeling those emotions of survival right because in survival it's not a time to create no when
it's in when you're in survival it's not a time to communicate it's not a time to learn it's not a time to cooperate it's not a time to get along it's time to run fight or hide and when you're in survival you're very selfish you're self-indulgent you're self-important you're self AGR you're full of self-pity it's all about the self or self self- involved in so many ways um and that means that once I'm okay and I'm happy then uh everybody else could be happy and so in survival and we're feeling those emotions we're doing everything
we can to make that feeling go away right so it turns out that if you're in that state where you're in survival and it's not a Time the Creator not a time to love or not a time to open your heart not a time to learn um you're compromised in a lot of ways so bring that into a relationship a relationship with peers with with co-workers with relatives with family with a partner um then the fundamental question is uh what would love do in a relationship that's I think that's a really important question now we
have different relationships with different people and um because we've had experiences with different people because we've had experiences with them we have neurological circuitry that is a memory that that we can relate to that person in fact I see you uh based on the memory I have of you I'm filling in my idea of Lewis based on my memory of him I'm not really seeing you I don't see things how they are I see things how I am right so your brain only can see equal to how it's m So based on my experience I
super like you you're a great guy we get along we have a lot of things in common and and so I see you that way and the feeling that I have for my interactions with you causes me to be attracted to you like if you're a cool guy we hang out we have great conversations and so when I see you there is a sense of love there's an energy there's a connection there's comaraderie there's some kind type of Union right those are healthy relationships and as long as we're we're honoring one another that relationship will
continue and Foster great outcomes you have a relationship with someone like an ex or someone's betrayed you um you have a different memory of that person based on your experience which triggers a different feeling right which triggers a different feeling that's based on experience and so then it makes sense then that the stronger the emotion you feel towards that person the more you pay attention to them and where you place your attention is where you place your energy so you're giving your power away to change to that person or that circumstance and it's entirely possible
that your reality is staying the same because your energy is the same that you in fact are contributing to that reality staying exactly unchangeable right so then you take a person and may've had a moderately difficult past everybody's got a story but when does the story end you know right and now it's the new later right I mean it's is now is the new later yeah like if you want to change that now okay so the person understands fundamentally they haven't changed since those that event they're feeling the same emotion they felt from 20 years
ago and somehow their their personality is in the past right okay so the person then has to overcome that emotional state and so they're sitting in the meditation and that's part of their identity and meditation is getting Beyond yourself and as you're sitting there all of a sudden you start getting frustrated and angry and resentful towards your ex you one of two choices just just go fully down that rabbit hole for the next hour and see how that feels at the end or ask yourself is this loving to me Justified or not the only person
it's going to affect is me okay is this loving to me or for me yeah was not either one right it's not either one okay so if I could in my meditation really say okay this isn't loving to me I know this isn't right even though I want to make them wrong I'm just going to work I'm going to work on settling my body down from that emotional state if I'm successful at regulating that emotion and no longer allowing the body to feel that emotion I'm inhibiting that thought and feeling that image and emotion I'm
breaking that conditioning response if I if I'm successful at doing that if I lower the volume to that emotion I'm going to take my attention off that person or problem which means I'm going to be taking my power back right right because I'm going to drop my energy I'm going to build my own field right I'm I'm no longer giving them my power to change energetically I'm no longer giving them my attention my energy if I overcome the emotion I'll take my attention off that person and I'll begin to build my own electromagnetic field now
there's energy to create now there's energy to heal now there's energy for a whole new future and and lo and behold when you lower the volume to that emotion you take your attention off that person that's forgiveness wow cuz if you don't feel the emotion any longer then you no longer have your attention on that person and your life truly changes you'll never hold on to that emotion again but why is it why are so many people holding on to resentment of what someone did in a relationship in their past versus allowing them to find
forgiveness and peace about it maybe it not agreeing that it was okay what they did but why do people hold on to resentment for so long or anger about a past I I think it's because people are afraid it's going to happen to them again oh and um when we have a traumatic event big or small in fact you're always on the lookout for the the any signal in the environment and any person or circumstance that's going to be the smallest que that's going to say oh I've done this before I better get ready for
it so we're in a constant state of bad news waiting for the worst case scenario so let me just finish this okay was the question really was about self- Lov uhhuh the person who lives in resentment is making themselves unhappy a person who's judging everybody else and because they're judging themselves is making themselves unhappy a person who's complaining blaming making excuses feel sorry for themselves they're making themselves unhappy there's nobody doing that to them you say it's your ex okay let's take your ex let's put him in a straight jacket and's shoot him to the
moon now what you're you're still thinking that way and feeling that way and and that person is no longer in your life you're defined by that uh that that that story by that past event okay the person's truly sincere and thinks there's something other than that emotion of resentment what's on the other side of it am I willing to sit through it long enough and and no matter how much the pain is or what my body does I'm going to sit this one out I'm going to work with my body and keep bringing it back
into the present moment it's like training an anal and keep doing it over and over again you stay you stay you stay I'm not getting up I'm not eating I'm not moving we're going to keep lowering the volume you keep reconditioning body to a new mind sooner or later it surrenders it surrenders to a new mind when that occurs there's that liberation of energy and energy moves into the heart and you feel love for yourself you feel a respect for yourself you feel an honor for yourself something you took your power back you know you
built your field something feels right when we look at the data of people who do this and we see their scans their brain scans we see their HRV measurements and they they get good at this we measure their oxytocin levels now oxytocin is the love chemical right it's it's made in the ptary gland um it it is the is love chemical causes us to bond to connect to to unify and and when I showed the values of oxytocin levels with these people to scientists are sometimes 200 times above normal now that's not a little love
that's a lot of love it's an explosion of love it's a lot of love and so oxytocin signals Nitric oxide and nitric oxide signals another chemical called endothelial derived relaxing factor and that chemical causes the arteries in your heart and your lungs to literally open up and blood flows into your heart and your heart is filled with energy just like when it engorges the the the the sexual organs there's an engorgement of blood in there and it activates it with energy and there's a mind that's created it's a Consciousness now this one opens up it's
a whole different Consciousness in in fact the research on oxytocin shows that the slightest elevation in oxytocin it's impossible to hold a grudge it's impossible you say dude I feel so good I'm good like no no no I'm good I'm really good now that kind of state means I I I don't want to feel anything else but this so I am not going to compromise myself or my energy to a lower denominator just because of you in fact I'm really good around you I'm really okay I feel so good I don't want to judge you
because I don't want to lose this feeling so then imagine being around a cat like that being around a person like that that's really easy to be around because they're okay with themselves and when they're okay with themselves they relate with people differently in fact they relate with them unconditionally they just love them unconditionally and that causes an attraction it causes a bond right so one of the things I learned last year and watching people you know in this work and week Wong events I do my best to pay really close attention looked at at
an audience one day and I looked out in the room just we just finished a walking meditation everybody sat down and I kind of glanced around the room and everybody had this radiant smile and I said to them hey who's making you happy by the way who who's making you happy there's nobody doing that to you you're doing that to you you're making yourself I mean you're not relying on your anybody in your life to do that now that is an attractive energy that's the person who relates well with money there's a relationship with money
they relate well with people um they're very giving they're very caring they want nothing in return they're more present because that's who they're practicing being and so there's a natural Affinity a natural attraction because the person is really present and they're really okay and something is different about them m something is unique about them so the relationship we have with people when we're in that state where we're really okay with ourselves we've made ourselves happy we're really happy with ourselves allows us to love just about we will find beauty through the lens of love in
anything when and no one else sees it right getting there is the overcoming process that is what creates self Lov now to be very clear I think many people and I think I'll include myself we confuse pleasure with love and it's not the same thing what's the difference well pleasure is doing something that makes you feel good and but has nothing to do with love love has everything to do with something that you feel independent of pleasure it's something it's it's the when you overcome yourself and you arrive at your goal you reach your dream
you never give up on yourself you had hard moments you fell to your knees you brushed yourself up you got up you showed up again for yourself it's amazing to watch this I watch it a weeklong events I watched people literally change in seven days and they showed up when they said I'm too tired I have a handicap I have a disease I don't understand how rough my pass is I'm in an addict I you know I was in jail my mother was abusive you know all they showed up in spite of I'm too old
I whatever that is they you keep showing up for yourself you start feeling really worthy really worthy to receive and the universe only gives us what we think we're worthy of receiving right so so in when you're in love you're in a whole lot less lack and if you're in a whole lot less lack in a sense you're moving closer to source and that's a really good feeling that's a really good feeling so practice that every day practice that every day and your relationships with people your relationship with your body your relationship with money your
relationship with your phone your relationship with your car your relationship with everything would be different yes and so so the overcoming process is the becoming process you make yourself happy you no longer need anybody to do that for you um you have a person in your life who is conscious that wants to make themselves happy and share their joy and their love with somebody yes uh well you have something really unique it's it's really special it's really it's and and love uh is a bonding a very bonding chemical it's a very bonding energy right like
um if you look at oxytocin levels in in mammals uh you typically see it when the female has just given birth and she's grooming The Offspring and she's touching it and licking it and and nudging it and and taking care of it the there oxytocin levels are released through the lyic brain through the midbrain it's the bonding brain they're smelling they're connecting and they're attracting one another it's creating a connection honeymoon stage of relationship where there's a lot of intense connection a lot of intimacy releases oxytocin creates monogamy it creates a bond it creates Unity
creates connection right so show the values to our some of the scientists and some of my colleagues and I see oxytocin levels 200 times normal they're like dude what are you doing like going up is it coup's week what is going on here and now I say you I say the same thing I say number one I want people to fall in love with their future just like they fall in love with another person because then if they do they're bonded to that future just like they're bonded to another person secondly if you truly truly
want to connect to Pure Love To Source to Singularity to Oneness to wholeness to the fertile void to to the vacuum energy whatever you want to call that Universal intelligence that's pure Consciousness that's pure love if you hit you hit that moment where you hit connection you will feel that arousal of Love it'll be it'll be profoundly memorable for you and it's it's it's not chemical it's electric it's very electric wow so you get a few of those it becomes you and you become it and so your love for the Divine your love for the
mystical your love for the the Unseen your love for source that the love affair begins and it's like being in love it's no one can tell you you're in love you just know it and it gets really hard to miss a date imagine you go and you go and connect every day and you start your day from that place that's a relationship that's a relationship with the world that that you're bringing so I think the overcoming process is part of it I think it's practicing getting to that place I think it's practicing uh Opening Our
Hearts more moving out of survival working with our bodies and survival it's not a time to love it's just it's not a time to communicate so you're in a relationship that's built on emotions other than love there's going to be a limit to love right and so you got betrayed someone else got betrayed you get together talk about your betrayal work yourself up into a froth feel the emotions get emotional agreement get a connection you're connecting in the same energy the same emotion cuz sharing the same information you're sharing the same memories you can relate
with one another that's a certain level of Consciousness at your events and your Retreats I was at one a year ago I think there was 200 people there the one that I went to and there was a lot of different people from all walks of life from all over the world um I would say majority of the people were you know above 30 you know from people I met and a lot of people had been in relationships some people had been in divorced and some people had been in intimacy for a long time with their
partner and they were there together they were growing and transforming together right Reinventing their relationship and expanding into the mystical together and all these different beautiful things for all the people that you've seen have successful long-term relationships what is the thing that you see them do extremely well versus oh yeah they forgive each other they forgive for they forgive the emotion and the emotion is going to keep you in the p asked right so they have to be able to forgive what happens if we don't forgive something that our partner or in a relationship does
if it hurts us or they said something or they did something maybe was really bad or just if you can't forgive you'll never have love wow the love that we withhold is the pain that we experience lifetime after lifetime you know it's how it is the love say it again the love that we withhold is the pain that we experience lifetime after life man and and then when we Master our emotions we Master our Creations so that's a creation and and you have to overcome the memory uh and the emotion and when you do you
belong to the Future instead of the past oh man so so otherwise well that's a perfect explanation of karma you live by that emotion that emotion is going to drive a certain behavior and cause you to think a certain way and you're on the wheel you're going to people are living the same lifetime every day oh done Cycles so they're living this same lifetime after lifetime because they haven't overcome the emotion no one's no one's doing that to them Soul can't go to the Future can't go it can't go if it's stuck in the emotion
of the past so the soul has to overcome the event by overcoming the emotion forget what happened I you'll never hear me say to anybody tell me your story I will never say that I would never do that to you wow I would say overcome the emotion and then the story ends wow because the memory without that emotional charge is the wisdom we get from the experience we never have to do it again and now the soul says okay I'm ready for the next adventure okay so I was betrayed okay I learned the lesson I
did this I did that okay I got it but we discovered that when people analyze their life within some disturbing emotion they make their brain worse 100% of the time holy cow cuz you're thinking in the past the answer is not there overcome the emotion actually thinking about it makes their brain worse it drives them into higher states of arousal overcome the emotion you have the answer to your own question it's because it's not in the known it's not in the past you got to get Beyond it so I say to people when they ask
me questions just just seven days just cross the river you're going to have the answers to your own questions there's going to be no better life coach for you than you get over this right so then the person who shows up worthy in their life person who's happy because they're making themselves happy that's such an unknown for everybody that that they've just left and showed back up in their life or they usually complain with they're like oh my God this person's joined the cult oh my God this person seems way too happy and they're happy
without me you know and and really it's just an energy that's that a person is broken out of the chains they free themselves from the chains of the past right and so that doesn't mean that they don't get frustrated don't get angry they just don't waste their time staying there because living by that emotion will create a gap between the way things appear and the way things really are wow and if we respond during that period we'll always say the same thing should have never said that I should have never done I should never sent
that email or that text I you're altered in some way so learning to shorten the refractory period of your emotional responses this is emotional intelligence right and and getting really good at that then allows a person to show up differently and when people when people create the life they want which happens a lot why would they why would they hold a grudge right why why would they do that they trust they're they free themselves and they free that person like like everybody's been betrayed everybody's been hurt but if your life is wonderful who cares like
that whoa I just I I me I wasn't conscious or whatever and then I now it's it's when your life isn't working and it ain't working and you're living by the same emotion then that passes you're going to keep it alive but you're the only one keeping it alive where did where is it where is your past where is it it's it's only there right it's in a memory it's a Memory here yeah it's not here so then people spend enormous amounts of time not even knowing not even aware that they're living in that state
and always predicting the default mode Network in the brain is always predicting the next moment based on what it's learned in the past right if you're holding a grudge of the past it's going to predict that in the future you're just going to get ready for the next one it's h you're recreating the past your your your your future is your past oh man yeah and and and there's and that's all the known right so getting a person to no longer live in the predictable future you know where they're just habituated where they get up
and do things and they're on a program getting a person that's the predictable future is the known familiar past is the known living by the emotion remembering the event if the if the familiar past is the known and the predictable future is the there's only one place where the unknown can be that's the present moment getting a person to labor for the present moment liberates energy in the body wow and that's when the person starts feeling more like themselves and they don't feel as altered and so you overcome the emotion of resentment just use this
as an example but sitting in the fire for a week and just facing off with it and just working with your body and retraining it to a new mind I guarantee you that when you see your ex you'll you'll see a part of you you used to be that you no longer are and you'll have nothing but compassion and and love for her and you'll be like wow wow I get it I totally get it it's no longer the past anymore you're not connected to it any longer and you free that person and your relationship
changes and something shifts and there's she's he's she's seeing you differently because you're showing up differently it's not not anything you're saying you're not lecturing them they're just not showing up as the memory they had of you and that allows them to be different and that's that's a great service yeah yes you mentioned about survival mode when we're in survival mode we're feeling stressed and when we're feeling stressed we're unable to feel that kind of selflove love for yourself there's well when you're in stress you're altered you're altered you're altered you're not you're you're you're
altered self you're you're shaken you're not feeling whole you've moved from love right yeah and when we enter a relationship from survival or stress or lack of worthiness or neediness I need someone to to make me feel more loved because I don't have it myself what do we usually attract and create when we're attracting from neediness survival and a lack of wholeness yeah I think that that all of that lack all of that separation is separation from love right and the problem is is that we've just been conditioned into thinking that it comes from out
there it comes from that person that drug that circumstance that that thing that object the app whatever it is and you're you're relying on your outer World to Change Your Inner world and so when things are good you feel good when things are feel bad you feel bad so you're you're at effect you're not at cause in any way so what if though you had a way to find that independent of your outer world the data we have suggest it's absolutely possible now you're free you're free like you don't need anybody or anything you'll be
a lot cool cool to hang around with everybody be like well you know that's just that that would allow them I I know this your presence would allow them to move out of survival they would open their heart a little bit more they trust you a little bit more they'd be more kind to be more softspoken more less egocentric your your presence would do that and and may not be the first time but they would start figuring out like wow this guy is really different you know he's something's different about him and and that's just
because you're present and and you're giving them your attention without judgment you you see how hard it is to change you've actually made that change because you've made that change and you see that you've made that change but you see that in them you're no longer judging them you have compassion for them like dude that's a tough one it took me a long time to get over that but you're not judging them like what's wrong with you you're like oh my God I totally know what that's like you you've crossed that River so of course
You' never offer them advice unless they asked you you would probably give them a oneliner I mean people who heal in our work so many times you know uh people in in a state of desperation will say what meditation did you do and they laugh at them like there nothing to do with the meditation it was just I changed like and it was it was a it was an arduous process but they're telling a different they're telling the story of their future they not telling the story of their past their ex or their betrayer or
whoever that person is they have no regrets about that because why they have they wish them well they hope they're happy it's not even it's not like they're even trying to forgive to be spiritual you know people who try to forgive like I'm really going to try to forgive that working hard to this is not how that works like you in love like you don't have to try to forgive you're just you just don't want to lose this feeling and you take your attention off that person you're good you there's a lot of freedom in
that and that's how people heal they're they're building their own field they're they're they're giving their body their energy back again they're taking their power back in so many ways so and then there is then there is community a collective Consciousness like I I I I like great conversation I like spirited conversation I like to be talk scientists or people in my life that I love I like to engage in just what the limit is and like everybody take us on a journey to see how far we can go I don't like to talk about
like things that really that are that where there's pain or suffering or what I don't I don't where there's ego I don't really like that like that's a Consciousness and and everybody's done it but if you're truly on the path of evolution you outgrow it yes you you outgrow complaining like you just you just don't you don't want to make yourself unhappy anymore you out go outgrow talking about yourself like you're better than anybody else because if you do you got to face off with that person tomorrow and overcome them tomorrow after a while you're
like dude just stop that so you don't have to deal with you like that anymore so you just start you start outgrowing things that they're just a side effect of your evolutionist it's not like you have to try to do it it's just the side effect of a change in Consciousness a change in energy a change in Awareness change in emotional states yes and so in the heart it is the selfless place it's a selfless place we give up from the heart we care from the heart we're kind in our heart we're compassionate in our
heart we're inspired in our heart you know we fall in love with our heart we're grateful in our heart and so I think people feel with every other part of their body but their heart like they just don't feel with it right practice feeling with your heart yes and um God we have we have such great data you know we put these monitors on people for 24 hours right and I used to think primarily it was women that had these moments now we're seeing that men have them too in fact the men whose spouses take
them or Partners take them to an event they really don't want to come those guys are going to be fine they have really really big moments so so we see them in their meditation where you can these little blocks of 5 minutes and you see the heart just drop in the coherence and it's just beautiful lines beautiful looks you could see this very easy to see you see this person sustaining it for 45 minutes during their meditation so you're like hm all right this person nailed it we go to the next meditation another 45 minutes
again done it once done it twice this is looks like this person's getting a skill all of a sudden they do it a third time another 45 minutes and then lo and behold those three meditations in one day then they're they're in their room and they're get unpacking and getting ready for bed they're still wearing the heart rate monitor and while they're not in a meditation for one hour while they're just unpacking getting ready there's an enormous amount of hard coherence has taking place for a whole hour why because just like a person who has
a panic attack who's embracing the worst case scenario in their mind every day and emotionally feeling the anxiety and the fear if that event actually occurred that image of that emotion that stimulus and response that thought and feeling is conditioned the body to become the mind of anxiety the body has a panic attack with you or without you try as you may to control it with your conscious mind you can't control you program it subconsciously right so is it possible to have a spontaneous love attack that's what she had she had on one hour or
her body went into ecstasy and you could see it I said love attack a love attack she I said to her what did you do she said and I saw it she she laid she got on in bed and she laid down and rolled over and went to sleep so you see her about an hour and 10 minutes perfect hard coherence and just see it drop off into sleep what 13,400 different chemicals released to restore and repair the body so the love that you feel is is the glue that creates connection on a cellular level
on a molecular level on an atomic level peel the atom all the way back right to the center of the nucleus and you have nothing but energy and that energy is what's called Low entropy and low entropy is high order and high order is high energy and it's a lot of lot of power so as you move closer to to that source of everything physical and material we have such great data to show that people actually run into it and when they do their autonomic nervous system goes into these elevated states of high high high
gamma brain wave patterns now gamma is superconsciousness gamma is very conscious very aware so the person's whole entire autonomic nervous system is processing hundreds of standard deviations of gamma outside of normal that's not a little gamma and it's so coherent now the autonomic nervous system touches every single cell in the body it controls and coordinates all those systems right so now imagine stress is autonomic disregulation incoherence this is autonomic regulation but this is not a little regulation this is enormous amount of energy that's taking place in the brain and the autonomic nervous system is on
fire and every single cell in the body is getting touched by that frequency and that frequency is carrying information and energy is in forming matter and that connection creates that feeling of pure love of exy of bliss and now the person takes a piece of it with them they become more of it and it becomes them and so we measure their blood and and there's a lot of oxytocin we measure their blood and there's information in that blood it wasn't there before that heals cancer that reverses Alzheimer's that that that causes the viruses to not
enter the cell I mean it causes the the microbiome to change in in a matter of days like so there that that interaction with that unifying field of energy that exists beyond our senses whose signature is Oneness whose signature is wholeness whose signature is pure love means then that it lives within you and all around you then You' be remembering who you are and where you came from which is pure love and it is the most familiar unfamiliar feeling you'll ever have and it's not chemical wow it's electric when you have that moment many times
there's an upgrade that takes place in the body there's the disease now it's gone there's the eczema it's gone there's a mythen gravis now it's gone um there's the Parkinson's now it's gone there's the blindness now it's gone there's a energies in forming matter and that enormous amount of Regulation high high amounts of Regulation is raising the body in frequency it's raising the body and light and all diseases lowering of frequency so the person is connecting to something way bigger than their senses way something beyond their senses and it's coming from within them now and
you only need one of those and you're you're okay from that point forward and the way you see life you some Veil some illusion some conditioning some hypnosis is removed and you're now way more relaxed in your heart and way more awake in your brain instead of unconscious stressed out in a program right and when I think you're more awake in your your heart and your brain you start to attract more great opportunities and you start to see is this person in alignment with my type of resonating resonating in that Consciousness you'll be able to
find your tribe it'll be as obvious as anything exactly whe whether you're looking for a partner or friends or Community or you know partner trust exactly that you resonate and you feel that and and and the heart is a strong element in the creative process so if you have a coherent brain then you're sending the signal out into the quantum field that's the that's the potential in the quantum field that you're selecting that already exists and you got to have an intention and the more coherent the brain the more the electrical signal takes place in
the field but if you want to create the experience the synchronicity the opportunity you got to need a coherent heart and the heart is the magnetic field and the magnetic field draws things to us so now we don't have to go get it any longer because that's what we do in threedimensional reality all of a sudden you start noticing I I really didn't do anything well I got the email I got the phone call I got the opportunity I met this person led to this and wow and know all of a sudden I have this
life and and so if you're going to believe in that future that you're imagining with all of your heart it's got to be open and activated train people to get in that place and when they're in that place they have wonderful relationships with everything in everybody because they're okay with themselves yes can you explain I love this explanation at your retreat you talk about this over and over sending an attention with a signal from your thought out into the field yeah and then with your heart drawing this intention from the physical world to you physically
yeah can you explain I every time you say this I love it and it just reminds me about the power of intention and having a coherent heart and brain connection right and those are the tools being so clear on your thought and thinking of why you want this thing you know not wanting it from a place of lack but already feeling grateful all these different things that you teach in the retreat but can you explain what this does when you have a signal from the brain and you have a magnet from the heart how does
that work in the physical world and how can we apply this to you know if someone's been single for a long time and they're like you know what I'm ready for love I'm ready for a greater connection and I've let go of my past I've forgiven I feel like I'm in a space that's allowing me to feel loved myself and I'm allowing to bring a partner to me how does this connect to that as well okay well let's talk about how we typically create okay we we basically create in lack or separation and you're walking
down the street and you see someone with a nice car and you're like love that car you don't have it you want that car because you don't have it so you're going to go out and work or do whatever you can to get that car and and in order for you to get that car we're in the plane of demonstration you got to do things so there's the thought of having the car and then there's the experience of having it and the diff the distance between the thought of the car and the experience of getting
it is called time yes right that's separation so then in three-dimensional reality you got to you got to everything that we do to create to bring those two points of Consciousness together takes time and energy so we got to do things we got to get up and go try things and try things out and do things and work and and then you buy the car finally and then you may have to make payments so you got to keep working to pay it off right so it takes a lot of time and energy so in threedimensional
reality the plane of demonstration there's a separation between the thought of what you want and the experience of having and you got to do things to get it and that's called time so then the cause and the effect one point of Consciousness and another point of Consciousness the separation is called time okay well you can get really good at that you can get trained you can go to school you can make a lot of the right choices you can meet the right people you can figure out ways to accumulate more things and get all the
things you want that you think that makes you happy right but after a while you're like some people never actually create the thing they want they spend their entire life in lack because they're waiting for that event to happen to take away the lack of not having it right so their senses are fuling them into the illusion of Separation right so they're creating matter to matter and matter to matter takes time and energy and get really good at doing it okay so there's this invisible field of unifying energy that exists beyond the senses that's unifying
everything physical and material and the forces of nature the quantum physicist I'm trying to unify gravity and strong and weak nuclear forces and electromagnetism some there's some intelligence that's keeping all of this in order after an explosion like if's an explosion is normally disorder but we got a lot of order here so unifying all those principles is really what quantum physics is about and finding mathematics to do it but undeniably in this realm in the quantum realm there's no separation it's there's nothing physical there's nothing material there's no matter that's all taking place in threedimensional
reality it's all energy it's all frequency it's all vibration it's all information it's all Consciousness it's all thought um that is that invisible field of energy so okay that invisible field of energy Einstein said the field is the sole governing agency of the particle he didn't say the particle controls the particle the field controls the particle so if I can change information in the field I should be able to affect the particle matter so it turns out the the atom is 99.99999% Energy Information it's there's nothing physical or material there 0000001 material and then the
probability of us seeing the truth of reality is zero wow and we are only seeing a small spectrum of frequency the rainbow visible light bouncing off the most stable form of energy called matter giving us this hologram this illusion of Separation okay so if there was a way to create from the field instead of from matter and move closer to source and create from a place of wholeness unless from separation I'd have to be able to get to the field yes so then if where you place your attention is where you place your energy and
you could you developed the ability to take all of your attention off your body all your attention off all the people in your life all the objects and things your cell phone your car your house whatever all the relationships of all the people all the places you need to go the place you're sitting the place you grew up the place you sleep the place you work and nothing about the predictable future The Familiar past and settle into the present moment you would go from a somebody to a nobody uh from a someone to a no
one from something to nothing from somewhere to Nowhere from some time to no time that is the moment your pure Consciousness you would be disinvesting all of your attention all of your energy out of this threedimensional reality out of the known and placing it on the unknown now let's demystify the process take away everything physical and material in the universe take away the Earth take away the Moon take away all the planets all the moons from the planets take away the Sun the light from the sun the stars all the light from the Stars galaxies
take everything away wipe everything out physical material what are you left with nothing turns out that that nothing is filled with a lot of fre qu and energy that's true and I don't know how to explain nothing to a materialist but when you can linger in that place without a name without a face without a body weight without a diet without a disease without a profession without an identity in any way without a past and you can linger as pure Consciousness something really profound happens to the brain different compartments of the brain that have been
modulated or compartmentalized or subdivided because of the stress hormones you know shift your attention from one person to another person to another problem to another thing that habituation fragments the brain the brain becomes a house divided against itself and you narrow your focus you over Focus you become obsessive about something that's what we do in stress we turn out turns out if you open your awareness to nothing the brain starts getting highly organized different compartments of the brain that were modulated start unifying the brain starts firing in this more holistic State and the whole entire
brain is resonating at the same frequency now you get that brain going for that period of time like that waves start that are coherent start interfering with each other and when they do they create bigger amplitudes the higher amplitude the higher the energy in the brain so now you have resonance in the brain and the Brain starts getting very mathematical very organized right so that brain that's coherent the entire brain is functioning as one neurological Network the two hemispheres are coming together and there's this kind of psychic Union called wholeness now that state of coherence
uh in moving out of the beta brain wave state into a slower brain wave state produces electrical signals yes and that electrical signal is the intention that's the more clear your intention is the more coherent the brain is the stronger the signal okay so if you decided to create from the field instead of from matter and you were just pure Consciousness and I asked you to send the signal out from a coherent brain and whatever that thing is that you wanted you could you train we trained you how to do that then you would be
shimmering the entire vacuum that entire void you are you are that you're not you any longer you're the source right so if you're the source and you're sending the signal out then you're you're touching the consciousness of everybody of everyone of everything of everywhere of every time the the entire field is becoming electric because of your intention wow okay now if you're Source why would you go anywhere to get anything and so Consciousness is coherent brain and then the energy of the Heart Is Love and pure Pure Love is source so if I ask you
to fall in love with that future and I ask you to draw the future to you with the magnetic field of the heart the heart produces a magnetic field up to 3 MERS wide that's that's that's studied so now love is the glue that holds the atom together okay okay if I get a coherent heart the more coherent my heart is the more energy in my heart the more I can draw my future to me so you send the signal out you draw the experience to you and now you don't go anywhere to get anything
when there's vibrational match between your energy and some potential in the quantum field and when there's a match you start seeing those synchronicities you synchronized your energy to that possibility and and so you start seeing the coincidences and the synchronicities and the opportunities I'm not talking about a parking space I'm talking about like real life events yes this is a critical moment for people because I think people don't realize how powerful they really are when that event happens in their life they will look back at every single betrayer everything that happened in their past and
they won't care they won't care any longer that's the moment their past no longer exists because they're proving to themselves what they innately already know that they may have forgotten which is why that is the the creator of their life and when you have that synchronicity you are humbled by the truth and you feel sense of greatness like real greatness like I am honored to be human I'm honored to be alive I'm honored that I actually created it's not the it's not the wealth you can ask anybody in our community it's not the health it's
who you became and and people think they want this or they want that but I'm telling you what they want is wholeness yes and you have wholeness that you no longer want how could you want when you're whole game change is really amazing and so the closer we get to source and that's our work how deep can you go and we teach people how to go as deep as they can there's a brain wave state that takes place that I can predict when we see it I know the person's going to have a big moment
in fact we can predict it we can replicate it um and we can induce it and the person goes into these really slow uh feta brain wave States and that's when they're in a hypnotic state they're very suggestible to information and they're in coherent Theta and when they move outside of normal we know the next moment is they're going to hook up and the brain's going to go into gamma and they're going to feel a whole lot of love not a little love like a lot of love and it's going to be an arousal and
it's going to be ecstasy it's going to be Bliss to them they're having they're they're seeing their the unknown self the 99.99% of reality that we're unaware of and don't exclude yourself from that and so the person has a moment when the unknown and a profound mystical moment or an understanding or a download or a connection The Source or a healing or something that takes place I took a bite of wholeness they took a bite of it right they became more whole and when you're more whole you don't need as much that's right when you're
not don't need as much you're really cool to be around like it's really easy to be around you in fact if you're so whole that you feel so abundant that the only thing you want to do is give we have people in this work that have created millions of dollars and that they're giving it away and the more they give it away the more money they keep getting that's the experiment for them that's their experiment they're trying that out as an experiment why because an abundant person would never hold on to anything they have more
than they need so the side effect of creating from the field instead of from matter shortens the distance between the thought of what we want and the experience of having it and that takes means there's less time and the greater frequency the closer we are to Source the less separation is two points of Consciousness it means there's less time and it should happen in a shorter amount of time in threedimensional reality and that event it's none of your business when it's going to happen or how it's going to happen because the moment you try to
predict it you're back to the Newtonian model of reality you're wanting and needing again you're you're laying a known yeah over the unknown and and and and the the Consciousness that lives within us that Source says I honor free will go for it do it your way yes and and so we have to lay down the very thing we used our whole life to get what we want for something greater to occur and that's not an easy thing oh man is it because it's so there's such a propensity to jump in there and do right
J in controller it and we so we control we force we predict we fight for it we manipulate we cheat we lie we steal um we do everything when we're matter trying to change matter to take away that lack or separation but if there's an alternative way to do that to shorten the distance between one point of Consciousness and another point between cause and effect and you start believing that you're the creator of your your reality you stop trying so hard uh you you start people in this work uh I think the the excitement for
me um and what I'm proud of in terms of our community is that they do the work not because they have to or they want to please God or do the right thing it's not that they don't want the magic to end in their life they don't want it to end it's not like oh gez I got to go create my life it's kind of like I someone sent me a text just yesterday a very very very wealthy very successful person and he he said to me I need to take a break from creating like
I'm going to take a break is that okay is it okay like he's his whole life has just gotten super beautiful and he's so alive again all these wonderful things happen he said I almost I almost don't feel worthy I don't almost don't feel worthy there so many I said you know many times you showed up for yourself you aren't worthy that's why it's happening yes you aren't worthy you showed up man if you don't show up you don't believe you're a Creator you show up it means you do believe and and so many people
as I said they may say well I think this stuff works but I don't know if it works for me well this is a big moment because if you don't show up then you don't believe it's possible but if you show up you still believe it's possible so showing up for yourself every day investing in yourself is investing in your future and and people say to me well I did it for two weeks and nothing happened I say to them you're not that good like I don't know what else to tell you I don't it's
not like it doesn't work for you it's just like learn a little bit more knowledge understand what you're do your your health condition isn't changing okay your your relationship you want a relationship and and you want a relationship in love and you're living the 3/4s of your day in fear you think you're you think you're going to attract love you're got to be able to feel that feeling instead of fear and when it's the hardest that matters the most then you're worthy right you're worthy of love you are worthy when you get to that point
where you are worthy of love it's not like entitlement like I'm I'm worthy of love that's not how that works you are worthy of it it's it's it's it's you you're so worthy of it you're okay without anybody that's when it gets really good that's powerful when you don't need it well because you don't you don't need anything because you feel whole exactly now that I call that the natural state of being that's why we practice so much relaxed in the heart and awake in the brain because there are so many biological changes neurological genetic
changes that take place in that present moment so many wonderful changes so the person who wants the wealth the person who wants to Rel relationship they can't be saying or the or the health they can't be saying well how come I'm not healed the person who's the person who's in the process of healing would never say that that's the person that's the old self that says how come I don't have a new relationship well we'll figure it out like two weeks went by and were you spending the rest of your day in fear and in
lack were you were you hating yourself and hating your life when thinks you think you think you're worthy of Love at this point you're not going to you're not going to be happy no one's going to make you happy until you make you happy and that changes everything you find that person and and they're happy for no reason you got to you and not just happy like always happy but but a sensibility that they can manage themselves and manage their emotions and manage their attention in such a way that's admirable like you're inspired by that
person your your relationship the person that you're with is an inspiration to you like wow I'm inspired by this person I'm moved by this person I want I want to show up for this person I want to give as much as they give in this relationship I want to I want to care as much as they care I want to be as kind as they are I want to see when everybody else reacts this person doesn't react something is cool about that person that's that gives the person or the people that we in relationship permission
to show up differently and that's that's when it becomes infectious that's when it becomes wonderful I want to ask you two final questions CU I could go on for hours we with you as always but I want I want people to digest this because the explanation of the the signal and the magnet I think I want people to watch that on repeat until they truly understand it and practice it uh because when you understand that that is the game it's figure out how to make this happen and create this looping effect of sending out the
signal with your pure intention and drawing back same time feel feel feel the emotion of your future before it happens oh because in the quantum so big in the quantum you got to feel it to experience it you doens yeah in threedimensional reality you experience it when it happens and you feel it afterwards in the quantum you got to feel it to experience it whatever you experience in the realm beyond space and time and emotionally Embrace must manifest in this space and time it's the law let's go let's go but but but my point is
is that it doesn't happen in two weeks don't give up the experiment continues what does it what does that mean mean it means that you got to fill your brain with more knowledge you got to practice more you got to be more present you can't be thinking about your coffee or thinking about what happened yes you're not there you're not there you're not there when you are there you're not thinking look think about this if you got up feeling connected to your future emotionally then you would say you would be feeling like your future is
already happened if you feel the emotions of your future before it happens you would no longer look for it you only look for it when you don't feel connected to it CU you're in lack of Separation try that out with your eyes open the entire day I'm going to sustain my energy put more attenion on my inner world just a little bit more relaxing my heart and waking a brain let me tune in to that future let me feel it when I'm at the stoplight let me feel it when my best friend's complaining to me
let me feel it when I'm washing the dishes let me just practice my own thing as an experiment I do this just to see the more I tune in the more I draw to me as no no longer about the event it's about it's getting so lost in the effort so lost in the act that the ACT actually creates the experience you're too involved in what you're doing when you default back to the old person and feel the same emotion don't expect your life to change you just return back to the same state of being
the same energy there's no one or no person or no doing that in your life if you say it's that person or that thing you're back to be at effect in your life so then being at cause in your life then is not trying to rush and get it done getting back in your life is actually being present in the moment and just try something else differently draw it to me so the brain coherence and heart coherence is producing a Wi-Fi signal and now you're connected now you're hooked up when your brain is incoherent you're
incoherent when your brain is incoherent you have no Wi-Fi signal you don't have that connection when your heart is not coherent you have no Wi-Fi signal you have no connection you're separate you're you're too far from the from the router from the you know from the the the the your your source so tuning up the autonomic nervous system tuning up the nervous system by hting a tune for by tuning into energy and frequency keep doing that boy we see just really really wonderful things I mean I always say to the scientists all those meditations on
nothing and you're getting all of this incredible data there's got to be information in that energy and that frequency that's not coming from their senses they're not it's not coming from the candy bar or the drug or the diet they're not taking anything and yet there's information in their blood look like they were where is it coming from it's coming from the field and so the person dials down the neocortex and moves into Theta Theta is hypnosis you're suggestible to information but in hypnosis you're plugged into reality with your senses you're getting instructions you're hearing
things you're seeing things and of course you're suggestable and you can you can program a person but the person's sitting in a meditation their eyes are closed there's music you're playing they're not connected to their outer world at all but but they're still suggestible to information and there's only one other place you can get information from that's frequency and the more coherent the brain and the more coherent the heart the more coherent the information and the little gland in the back of the brain called the penu gland and the brain's radio receiver hooks up to
that frequency and that energy and it transduces that information at the profound imetry in the brain and a person is having a transcendental moment and that moment they are seeing Beyond veil of this illusion of separation and that's when they remember who they are and where they came from that moment you can only talk around yes but it is electric and so what if it took you six months to get there would it be worth it yeah I would I would say so seeing seeing what's in the blood of people who hit that moment and
there are many people that don't hit that moment and still have the same information in their blood 84 83 77% of the community it's pretty crazy that's incredible I want everyone to go to your website because I want them to sign up to get on your retreat because when I went there I felt an incredible explosion of love I saw I'm disconnected from my phone it's in the hotel somewhere I'm tapped into my heart and I'm practicing being in my heart and feeling nothing except for the the feeling of love for hours and hours and
hours and then I'm learning from you the science the research all the dat you have so many research papers now out that will link up that talk about here's the hard facts the data the peer-reviewed science that's proving that you can get incredible healing results wholeness results that allow you to attract from the field more beautiful things in your life not because you need them or want them because they're available to you now because yeah exactly and um I want people to sign up follow you and practice some meditations you know a lot of this
comes from from the practice and the experiment of it like you talked about this isn't going to happen if you just think for one moment at a time and the rest of your days are anger fear resentment lack do the do the inventory exactly do the inventory every night how much time did I think about love peace gratitude forgiveness versus anger resentment or lack and if the answer is well you don't understand I have a reason to feel this way then you're not there you're not there you're not you're not beyond your past exactly and
I always say Justified or not the only person that that's hurting those emotions is really you it it really is and so you got to ask yourself is this loving to me and this is the beginning of your relationship with yourself absolutely and and self forgiveness is so important not self forgiveness like okay go go out and do it again but like what did I learn do I really want to end up here every day do I really want to end up in the same place I don't want this okay so then what would you
tell your kid if he didn't want well change change that like how do I change it well stop it you want to be happy stop being unhappy life is really simple and so the unlearning process the Breaking the Habit process the overcoming process nobody likes to talk about because it is the overcoming process that is the becoming process that woman who broke through and her heart blew wide open and she was abused as a child boy she she was so happy with herself she was she she saw herself when she was ready to give up
and say I can't go any further because emotion was so hard she went one more time and her heart opened up she was so incredibly free after that moment she she literally moved out of her past into her present moment and she when she was making that decision when she saw like all the days that she never missed a meditation and and she fell in love with that person she fell in love with that person and it was that future self that was drawing that past self to her in love there's a future you there's
a future me that already exists it's more mystical more loving more abundant more free more unlimited more genius more cool and it's you right and and so the overcoming process then is the difficult process because so many people rather just get on their cell phone get distracted scroll through Tik Tok or social media just regulate their emotions by something else happen they're not conscious they're doing that but that's what they're doing in this case we're asking you to do it on your own right so so you sitting through the fire and you're not going for
the cell phone man it's it's it's like you're you're you're you're you're in the river of change and it's uncomfortable and it's uncertain and there's unpredictability and it's the unknown but man that is the place to create from not from the unknown so getting people into that place where they're uncomfortable and okay with it and understanding that there is a future that that already exists you just have to become it right become that person so it's not your wealth it's who you become it's not your health it's who you become you can ask the people
who healed ask the people who are abundant they'll say no no no no no that wasn't it and you can talk to the people who had really profound instantaneous healings instantaneous healings I get them on the stage and for 10 minutes they're talking about how amazing they feel from the experience and finally I say to them will you will you tell the Hors oh yeah I was blind and now I can see oh yeah I had Parkinson's now I don't have any like the event is more powerful than their healing the healing is consequence of
them overcoming right and it's the overcoming process that is the becoming process that's the relearning process the reinvention process right that's that's what we live for and so we overcome our fear we overcome our resentment we overcome our anger our betrayal and we become something else we we're moving closer to sorc moving closer to love and it's not something that you have to try to do it's just who you become it's not you have to try to forgive you just feel so good you don't want to feel anything else right and and and you're more
resilient you're you're more more healthy or more whole imagine like people who are super wealthy a lot of times they say to me and we're talking billions they say we're miserable we're we're Agony and I say why and they say cuz well I can't enjoy a sunset anymore I can't relax I don't know how to do that like I I don't know how to do that I can't even appreciate life and yet somehow when we overcome ourselves and we feel more love when we're prone to give why because we want people to feel the way
we feel it's not like I'm doing this to to to to please anybody I feel so good I want you to feel the way I feel so the only way I can do that is to give you what I have and I feel so good I'm happy to give it away like I don't know imagine a world like that you know so so falling in love with yourself is falling in love with life right and falling in love with life is falling in love with yourself whatever it is that's standing in the way between you
and love that's the journey that's the journey because because Pure Love is Source right it is is pure Consciousness so as I said at the beginning uh that in order for us to find love a part of us must die or anything that's not love in US must die and that and that that that biological neurological chemical hormonal genetic death of the self has to occur for something to be reborn that's the Phoenix rising from the ashes and it's not like someone's going to do it for you nobody's going to choose you that you you
are endowed with the Free Will as pure Consciousness as a creator that has fallen from source to such a degree of separation you have your own free will to create reality any way you want so then your job then is to reinvent whatever that is in your life whatever that dream is and I say to people all the time I don't care what it is I don't care whatever it is you want I'm totally cool with that as long as you know how to create and as you get good at this and you start having
the things you want and the only thing you want to do is give back the only thing you want to do is make a difference and and the side effect of that is people are start taking care of people and in our community you know we we inform one another we we respect one another we honor one another we support one another we heal one another we shine for one another so others can Shine That's the emerging Consciousness and and that Collective group of people that's bound together in a different energy a different frequency that
is that that glue creates a a community a a collective Network and I think that that then uh is is what people are looking for on the world I want people to follow everything you're doing it's inspiring it's amazing get Dr Joe's meditations sign up for your newsletter so you can be informed about everything you have going on you've got uh research papers coming out you've got a walk that people can be a part of you know depending on when this interview comes out um to to continue to inspire and bring people together to transform
from the inside out you've got incredible books that are transformational I want people to get everything uh so check it out I've I've been to a lot of for the last 11 years I've done a lot of different workshops I've did a lot of meditation Retreats I've been to India I've done you know I've done so many different things I've done extreme cold extreme heat I've done a lot of different healing modalities therapies and the thing that I love about your work is you bring practical style of meditation that people have heard meditation for a
long time but you bring it in a unique way from all your experiences and from all the science and research that you've done and proven with other outside scientists and researchers to show here are the actual results so you give evidence you give data you give testimonials you get so many examples of how these things work in different cases in life so when you teach you know science and the mystical you marry the two and allow people to receive it with the information while experiencing something that's unknown to to them where they believe more and
when they believe more they can recreate that more and then they can spread the message more to others so there's something beautiful about your work that I want to appreciate and acknowledge you for uh because it's the first time I've seen you since the event even though we've texted and message a few times but it was such an incredibly powerful 7-Day experience and I just want everyone I hope everyone gets the opportunity to experience it someday you've got courses online that people can learn a lot of this information from as well and uh there's just
so many resources you have on your website so we'll have that linked up here's my final question for you on this um you know maybe I can convince you in a year or two to do another one about level C but my question for this I have a shirt that I got at your event that someone gave me and based on a mantra that you said over and over again in this 7-Day experience and the question is what would love do so I want to throw that question back to you this is something you say
to everyone in your Retreats what would love do I'm curious how do you answer that for yourself um God you know I'm a mission driven person um I've had uh all kinds of things in my life um and there's not a whole lot of things uh that I have meaning for aside from the people that I that are close to me and that I love but what I really love is making a difference in people's lives I think I think I think that's innate in us I think that it's so much easier to clean your
neighbor's garage than your own I don't know why that is we're wired to take care of one another you know and and um so for me um what love does what what what love does is number one being the example doing the work and being the example of everything that I teach I think that's that's important for me but then I'm a mission-driven person and and I think that an only only way we my mission is to change individuals so somehow uh change their lives and ultimately Empower people in some way to to create a
different world and so um I I work just like uh just like anybody else to move closer to it I practice all the things that that I teach uh and I and I and I and I do find incredible value in being part of transformation I think that that I think when you witness a mother whose child has been uh autistic for years stand on the stage and tell her story in tears and tell you know I think the people that were part of that coherence healing that were actually changed that kid's life Chang the
's life I think the greatest form of gratitude that we can ever feel is receiving gratitude and when we receive gratitude something really profound happens you're part of someone's transformation it's Tribal and we tend to switch on networks in the brain that cause us to move closer together to commune to become more social and the side effect is that if we become more appreciative we appreciate life we appreciate the moment and and um people who do as an example the coherence healings that's what love does does like that's what love does and they're not doing
it to hang a shingle out there to say I'm a Healer or a life coach they're doing it because they're getting so much out of the experience they're they're they're part of a person's change in empathy this kind of human empathy awakens where you you realize that we're all connected on some level we're we're wholeness and parts you know every individual's part of the whole and if we change enough individuals we can change the whole and whatever that point is I don't know but for me what love does in some way is to be the
example in our lives to show people what it looks like um to to to be something other than what's normal and natural different from the collective Consciousness in some way and dare to be original enough you know in the beginning you'll be considered fool hearty and insane and you pull it off and then you're a genius you're right and then so so I'm sure that many people in this work that faced off with their family and friends when they were given a hard diagnosis had to come up to terms with themselves and and and really
look to see like I do I love myself enough to do this and and showing up every day and falling in love with yourself every day is a great antidote uh for the for the healing process so for me I want to be I I I watched a woman open her eyes for the first time in Cancun and saw for the first time of was standing right there I wanted to be there I wanted to be I wanted to celebrate with her I wanted to be right there in that moment when she opened her eyes
I wanted to be right there I wanted to I wanted to experience her Joy I wanted to I wanted to celebrate with her like to me that's the gift of life that is what I think that's what love does and and and the effect of Love is carrying and kindness and healing and connection no judgment no conditions uh it's something it's something uh it's it's a never-ending process of discovery right and and every mystical experience I've had um that where I felt profound feelings um has always led me to the understanding that I there can't
be any more love to this until the next one then there is more then there is more like like my God man I have just shaded myself so so then surrendering fully to love right surrendering fully to love every day is a mystery where does it lead me I don't know um but the unknown has never let me down up until this point so um that that brings me the for me the greatest joy to somehow uh make a difference in people's lives and the body which has been conditioned to be the mind is 95%
of who we are right by the time we're in the middle of our life so there's David and Goliath and the body's just saying look you think you've been making all your decisions your whole life actually you haven't the body has been making these decisions because it's the mind so then the body says okay