The View Full Broadcast – December 4, 2024

♪♪ >> Announcer: ON DEFENSE. AS ALLEGATIONS MOUNT AGAINST TRUMP'S DEFENSE SECRETARY PICK, PETE HEGSETH, HIS MOM WALKS BACK THE SCATHING EMAIL SHE SENT TO HER SON. >> THIS IS TO PETE DURING THE 2018 DIVORCE.

YOU SAY, I HAVE NO RESPECT FOR ANY MAN THAT BELITTLES, LIES, CHEATS, AND SLEEPS AROUND. >> THEN TWO HOURS LATER I RETRACTED IT WITH AN APOLOGY. SOME OF THOSE ATTACHMENTS OR DESCRIPTIONS ARE JUST NOT TRUE.

ESPECIALLY ANYMORE. >> Announcer: DO REPORTS OF CALLING IN REINFORCEMENT NOMINEES SIGNAL THAT HEGSETH WILL SURRENDER? >>> THEN CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD WHY TRUMP WON.

WHAT DEMOCRATS GOT WRONG AND WHAT EVERY FUTURE CANDIDATE NEEDS TO START DOING NOW. >>> PLUS, JAMES VAN DER BEEK IS REVEALING HIS EMOTIONAL JOURNEY AFTER BEING DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER AND HOW HE'S SPREADING AWARENESS IN THE REVEALING NEW SPECIAL, "THE REAL FULL MONTY. " HERE COME "HOT TOPICS" WITH WHOOPI.

SARA HAINES. ANA NAVARRO. JOY BEHAR.

SUNNY HOSTIN. AND ALYSSA FARAH GRIFFIN. NOW, LET'S GET THINGS STARTED.

♪ I LOVE, I LOVE I LOVE THE VIEW I SEE ♪ ♪ THIS VERSION OF ME STRONGER ♪ ♪ I SEE WHAT I FEEL I'M FEELING BEAUTIFUL ♪ ♪ I LOVE, I LOVE I LOVE THIS VERSION OF ME ♪ ♪ I LOVE THE VIEW I SEE ♪ ♪ THIS VERSION OF ME STRONGER ♪ ♪ I SEE WHAT I FEEL I'M FEELING BEAUTIFUL ♪ >> Whoopi: WELL, HELLO, HELLO, HELLO. [ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ] HELLO, HELLO, HELLO. [ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ] AND PLEASE LET ME GREET MY CO-HOSTS, WHO I HAVEN'T SEEN FOR DAYS.

[ LAUGHTER ] >> Sunny: HI. >> Sara: HELLO. >> Joy: WE'RE BACK.

[ APPLAUSE ] >> Whoopi: SO, THIS IS WHAT'S GOING ON, THE BATTLE OVER THE NEXT DEFENSE SECRETARY IS RAGING ON. THERE ARE REPORTS THAT FLORIDA GOVERNOR RON DeSANTIS AND IOWA SENATOR JONI ERNST ARE BEING CONSIDERED AS ALLEGATIONS OF INFIDELITY, ABUSE, ALCOHOLISM MOUNT AGAINST THE CURRENT NOMINEE, PETE HEGSETH. HE DENIES ALL THE ALLEGATIONS AGAINST HIM, AND HIS MOM WENT ON FOX NEWS THIS MORNING TO DISAVOW A SCORCHED EARTH EMAIL THAT SHE WROTE TO HIM IN 2018.

TAKE A LOOK. >> YOU SAY, I HAVE NO RESPECT FOR ANY MAN THAT BELITTLES, LIES, CHEATS, AND SLEEPS AROUND, AND YOU GO ON AND SAY, YOU ARE THAT MAN AND HAVE BEEN FOR YEARS AND AS YOUR MOTHER, IT PAINS ME AND EMBARRASSES ME TO SAY THAT, BUT IT IS A SAD, SAD TRUTH. >> WE REALLY BELIEVE THAT HE IS NOT THAT MAN HE WAS SEVEN YEARS AGO, AND I AM SURE MANY OF YOU ACROSS THE COUNTRY UNDERSTAND HOW DIFFICULT DIVORCE IS ON A FAMILY.

THERE'S EMOTIONS. WE SAY THINGS, AND I WROTE THAT IN HASTE. ABOUT TWO HOURS LATER, I RETRACTED IT WITH AN APOLOGY EMAIL, BUT NOBODY'S SEEN THAT.

HE DOESN'T MISUSE WOMEN, NO. I MEAN, HE -- YOU KNOW, HE'S BEEN THROUGH SOME DIFFICULT THINGS. I'M NOT GOING TO LIST THEM BY NAME, BUT I WOULD JUST SAY THAT SOME OF THOSE ATTACHMENTS OR DESCRIPTIONS ARE JUST NOT TRUE, ESPECIALLY ANYMORE.

>> Joy: YEAH. [ LAUGHTER ] >> Whoopi: DID SHE JUST SAY THEY'RE NOT TRUE ANYMORE? >> Sunny: RIGHT.

>> Sara: YEAH. >> Whoopi: SO, THAT MEANS AT SOME POINT IT WAS TRUE. >> Joy: YEAH.

>> Sunny: YEAH, YEAH. >> Whoopi: YOU KNOW WHAT, CHILD, I'M NOT GOING TO LET THESE PEOPLE WORK MY NERVES. [ LAUGHTER ] I'M NOT GOING FOR IT.

>> Sara: SO, IN THE MOST HASTE OF ANY MOMENT IN MY MOM'S LIFE AS ENRAGED AS I'VE PROBABLY MADE HER, SHE COULD NEVER CALL INTO QUESTION SO MANY THINGS IN ONE LETTER INCLUDING MY INTEGRITY, MY ABILITY AND HOW I TREAT PEOPLE, AND THE OTHER THING THAT REALLY JUMPED OUT AT ME, IN A DIVORCE, THEY GET CONTENTIOUS, IT'S AWFUL. PEOPLE PICK SIDES, BUT USUALLY NOT THE OTHER PARTNER'S SIDE. SO, THE MOTHER COMING OUT DURING A DIVORCE AND DEFENDING SO ACTUALLY NOBLY IN THIS LETTER HER DAUGHTER-IN-LAW SAYING -- >> Alyssa: AND THE MOTHER OF THE GRANDCHILDREN.

>> Sara: PEOPLE SHOW YOU WHO THEY ARE IN THEIR WORST MOMENTS, NOT THEIR BEST MOMENTS. [ APPLAUSE ] HE'S SHOWN PEOPLE WHO HE IS, AND YOU CAN'T UNSEE THAT, AND FOR THEIR PERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS, I'M GLAD SHE'S SAYING HE'S EVOLVED. I DO BELIEVE PEOPLE CAN EVOLVE AND CHANGE AND GROW.

SEVEN YEARS IS NOT A LOT. [ LAUGHTER ] BUT I DO THINK THAT THAT IS GREAT FOR HIS PERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS. THE OPTICS OF PUTTING HIM IN CHARGE OF THIS DEPARTMENT WITH ALL THAT LIES BENEATH THAT, PICK SOMEONE ELSE.

THERE ARE A GAZILLION FISH IN THE SEA. I TELL ALL MY GIRLFRIENDS ALL >> Joy: IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING. I'VE BEEN OBSERVING.

RFK'S FAMILY TURNED ON HIM AND SAY HE IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE PART. THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH HIM, BESIDES THE WORM IN THE BRAIN. [ LAUGHTER ] >> Sunny: YEAH.

>> Joy: TRUMP'S NIECE MARY TRUMP, HIS SISTER, THEY ALL SAID -- AND NOW YOU HAVE THIS. IF YOUR OWN MOTHER TURNS ON YOU AND THEY'RE PUTTING HIM IN CHARGE OF THE DEFENSE, MY FATHER WAS A COMPULSIVE GAMBLER, GINO, I WOULD NOT GIVE HIM THE JOB AS -- IN CHARGE OF THE TREASURY, OKAY. IT'S LIKE THAT.

>> Sunny: RIGHT. >> Joy: I ALSO WILL NOT WRITE A NASTY LETTER ABOUT HIM, BUT IF YOUR MOTHER, YOUR OWN MOTHER TURNS ON YOU, THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON THERE THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT. >> Sunny: THAT'S WHAT I'VE HAD THE MOST DIFFICULTY WITH.

AS A MOTHER OF A 20-SOMETHING-YEAR-OLD KID AND AN 18-YEAR-OLD GIRL, YOU DO GROW AND MAKE MISTAKES AS A YOUNG PERSON, BUT ALMOST THE VITRIOL OF THAT LETTER, IT WAS REALLY SIGNIFICANT TO ME THAT A MOTHER WOULD SPEAK THAT WAY. >> Joy: HE WAS IN HIS 30s. HE WAS NOT SOME KIND OF TEENAGER.

>> Sunny: I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT. HE WAS OLDER, IN HIS 30s. WHAT BOTHERS ME MOST, THE POSITION HE'S UP FOR, SECRETARY OF DEFENSE, RIGHT, AND WOMEN, 228,966 REPRESENT ALMOST 20% OF THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE, ACTIVE DUTY FORCE, MORE THAN 9,000 OF THOSE WOMEN HAVE EARNED COMBAT ACTION BADGES, AND WHAT HE SAID DURING A PODCAST INTERVIEW JUST TWO WEEKS BEFORE HE WAS TAPPED TO HEAD THE PENTAGON, HE SAID I'M STRAIGHT UP JUST SAYING, WE SHOULD NOT HAVE WOMEN IN COMBAT ROLES, SO SOMEONE -- EVEN IF I TRIED TO PUT ASIDE THE MOTHER'S HATRED OF HER SON OR WHAT THE TERRIBLE -- LET ME RETRACT THAT.

>> Whoopi: YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. >> Sunny: THE TERRIBLE THINGS THAT SHE SAID, EVEN IF I WERE TO JUST DISPEL WHAT THE ALLEGATIONS OF SEXUAL MISCONDUCT, THE FINANCIAL MISMANAGEMENT AT VETERANS CHARITIES, THE REPEATED ALLEGED INTOXICATION AND INFIDELITY, I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR HIM TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR WOMEN IN COMBAT. >> Whoopi: GO AHEAD.

>> Alyssa: I WORKED AT THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE. I WAS THE SPOKESWOMAN FOR THE PENTAGON AND -- >> Joy: YOU WERE? >> Alyssa: YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT?

[ LAUGHTER ] CLEARLY I NEED TO RATTLE OFF MY CREDENTIALS. >> Joy: I NEED TO READ YOUR RESUME. >> Alyssa: YES, AND, WELL, WE ALL EXPECT THAT BAD BEHAVIOR HAS MADE ITS WAY INTO POLITICS AND PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD AFFAIRS AS THE PRESIDENT HAS, THE DOD AND SECRETARY OF DEFENSE AND JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF HAVE LARGELY STAYED ABOVE REPROACH BECAUSE OF CHARACTER.

THE REASON WHY, IN NATIONAL SECURITY AND THE PEOPLE WHO RUN THE U. S. MILITARY, THEY'RE AWARE THAT AMERICA'S ENEMIES ARE CONSTANTLY LOOKING AT THEM AND LOOKING AT THINGS TO EXPLOIT.

SO, WHEN I WENT THROUGH MY BACKGROUND CHECK, THEY ASKED DO YOU HAVE DEBT? ARE YOU A GAMBLER? ARE YOU ADDICTED TO PORNOGRAPHY?

>> Joy: MY FATHER, YES. >> Sunny: FELONIES, ANY FELONY RECORD. >> Alyssa: THEY MATTER BECAUSE THEY THINK COULD YOU BE BLACKMAILED, COULD YOU BE EXPLOITED BY ENEIES WHEN YOU HAVE ALL THIS POWER TO MAKE LIFE AND DEATH DECISIONS.

IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT MUCH IF YOU HAD AN AFFAIR AND RUN THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE. HAVING A QUESTIONABLE RECORD WITH WOMEN AND ABUSE ALLEGATIONS AT DOD ABSOLUTELY MATTERS. THERE ARE WAY BETTER OPTIONS.

THERE'S A MILLION FISH IN THE SEA, AND SENATOR JONI ERNST, A COMBAT VETERAN HERSELF IS A BACKUP CONSIDERATION. >> Sara: FROM IOWA. >> Alyssa: SHE WOULD GET BIPARTISAN SUPPORT, AND SHE IS A SERIOUS VERY DEN SHALLED PERSON WITH THE QUALIFICATIONS TO DO THAT JOB?

>> Sunny: WHAT ABOUT DeSANTIS? DO YOU THINK HE CAN DO THAT JOB. HIS NAME IS BEING FLOATED.

>> Alyssa: I DON'T AGREE WITH HIM ON DOMESTIC POLITICS. HE IS QUALIFIED TO AND SPENT 15 YEARS IN THE MILITARY, HE IS A GOVERNOR AND SPENT THREE TERMS IN THE HOUSE. HE'S INFINITELY FOR QUALIFIED.

>> Joy: WHAT'S HER QUALIFICATION? >> Alyssa: SHE'S A SENATOR AND FORMER COMBAT -- AND SHE HAS WORKED WITH THE PENTAGON. THIS GUY IS A FOX NEWS HOST AND DID SOME WORK WITH VETERANS.

>> Joy: BUT HE IS A TV STAR. THAT'S ALL THAT COUNTS TO TRUMP. >> Sunny: AND AN ATTORNEY.

>> Whoopi: I JUST REALLY WANTED TO WAIT AND SEE HOW HE CAME AT THE FOUR-STAR GENERALS THAT ARE WOMEN. >> Sunny: YES. >> Whoopi: BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THOSE [ MUTED ] FIND OUT MOMENTS.

>> Sunny: YES. >> Whoopi: YOU'RE GOING TO TELL ME I WORKED MY WAY UP IN THIS PERSON'S VOLUNTEER ARMY. >> Sunny: 9,000 OF THEM.

YEAH. >> Whoopi: VOLUNTEER ARMY. THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS IS WHAT MY CALLING IS.

THEY DECIDED TO COME OUT AND FIGHT. YOU'RE GOING TO TELL PEOPLE THEY'RE NOT QUALIFIED TO FIGHT FOR THEIR NATION? WHAT KIND OF -- THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.

WE NEED AN ARMY THAT GETS WHY WE NEED TO BE PROTECTED AND DOES THE JOB, AND HERE YOU'RE TELLING PEOPLE, OH, YOU'RE NOT QUALIFIED. YOU'RE NOT QUALIFIED. THAT DOES NOT SEEM TO BE A GOOD WAY TO KEEP PEOPLE IN A VOLUNTEER ARMY.

[ APPLAUSE ] >> Sunny: YES. >> Alyssa: THE U. S.

MILITARY HAS A RECRUITMENT CRISIS RIGHT NOW. >> Sunny: SAY IT LOUDER. >> Alyssa: THE U.

S. MILITARY HAS A CRISIS. WE NEED MORE PEOPLE TO VOLUNTEER.

>> Sunny: THEY'RE HAVING THE RECRUITMENT CRISIS AMONG MEN ESPECIALLY. >> Whoopi: YES. >> Sara: LADIES, ALL THE LADIES.

>> Whoopi: DON'T WORRY. WE GOT YOU. THE WOMEN GOT YOU.

[ APPLAUSE ] YOU KNOW? BECAUSE WHEN YOU GET RID OF US, IF YOU GET RID OF THE WOMEN, YOU ARE GETTING RID OF HALF OF THE POPULATION. THAT'S NOT A SMART MOVE TO MAKE.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK. [ APPLAUSE ] >> Whoopi: WELCOME BACK. CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD HAS BEEN A VOCAL FORCE IN THE MEDIA THROUGHOUT THE 2024 PRESIDENTIAL RACE, AND HE'S JOINING US NOW AT THE TABLE.

PLEASE WELCOME BACK THE AUTHOR OF "GET HONEST OR DIE LYING," CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD. [ APPLAUSE ] >> HELLO, LADIES. WHAT'S HAPPENING?

>> Sara: NICE TO HAVE YOU BACK. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME BACK. >> Sara: MY QUESTION, AFTER THE ELECTION YOU SAID YOU WERE DISAPPOINTED BUT OPTIMISTIC.

HOW ARE YOU FEELING RIGHT NOW? >> I FEEL THE SAME WAY. WHAT'S THE OTHER OPTION?

YOU KNOW, I'M A COUNTRY BOY FROM MONKS CORNER, SOUTH CAROLINA, RAISED ON A DIRT ROAD. MY MOTHER WAS A JEHOVAH'S WITNESS AND MY GRANDMOTHER WAS A BAPTIST, AND YOU CAN'T BELIEVE IN GOD WHEN THINGS GO YOUR WAY AND NOT BELIEVE IN GOD WHEN THINGS DON'T GO YOUR WAY. REMEMBER YOUR SERENITY PRAYER.

GOD, GRANT ME THE SERENITY TO ACCEPT THE THINGS I CAN'T CHANGE AND THE WISDOM TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE. >> Sunny: ESPECIALLY THE WISDOM TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE. >> Joy: NOT YET.

>> WELL, FOUR YEARS FROM NOW, I GUESS. >> Sunny: OR TWO, OR TWO. BUT LET ME ASK YOU THIS, TRUMP'S CAMPAIGN ADS FOR SOME, THEY'RE SAYING THEY WERE VERY EFFECTIVE, AND IN ONE IN PARTICULAR AD, HE USED A CLIP OF YOU FROM "THE BREAKFAST CLUB" SAYING, KAMALA SUPPORTS TAX-FUNDED SEX CHANGES FOR PRISONERS.

YOU SAY IT WAS TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT. I KNOW IT WAS BUT IT WENT ON TO BECOME ONE OF HIS MOST EFFECTIVE CAMPAIGN ADS. I'M ALSO FEATURED IN ONE OF HIS -- >> YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN IN ONE TOO.

>> Sunny: I WAS. HE TEXTED ME AND LET ME KNOW THAT. >> Joy: THE CONTEXT -- >> Sunny: NO, IT WASN'T.

WHAT WERE YOU ACTUALLY SAYING IN THE CLIP AND CAN YOU -- PLEASE EXPLAIN THAT, AND HOW DOES IT MAKE YOU FEEL THAT THE CAMPAIGN USED YOU LIKE THAT? >> WELL, IT'S NEVER GOOD TO BE TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT, BUT I WAS EXPLAINING TO MY LISTENERS HOW EFFECTIVE I THOUGHT THE ACTUAL AD WAS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE AD WAS EFFECTIVE BEFORE I WAS IN IT. I WAS JUST SITTING AT HOME WATCHING FOOTBALL, AND I SAW IT, AND I WAS LIKE, WHOA, SO I KNEW THE IMMEDIATE REACTION WAS PEOPLE SAYING, HELL NO, I DON'T WANT MY TAX DOLLARS GOING TO THAT.

SO I WAS EXPLAINING THAT TO MY LISTENERS. IT NEVER FEELS GOOD TO BE TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT. WHAT I DIDN'T LIKE THE MOST, THEY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING TO COMBAT IT.

I WOULD HAVE RAN THE SAME AD AND JUST SAID, DONALD TRUMP, YOU KNOW, DONALD TRUMP SUPPORTS -- WHAT WAS IT? >> Sunny: HE WAS THE ONE THAT WAS SUPPORTING -- >> I WOULD HAVE RUN THE SAME AD. THERE WAS LEGISLATION UNDER HIM AS WELL.

YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE I WOULD HAVE DID IF I WAS HER CAMPAIGN, SINCE DONALD TRUMP USED ME, I WOULD HAVE USED JOE ROGAN. JOE ROGAN SAID DONALD TRUMP WAS A THREAT TO DEMOCRACY. JOE ROGAN SAID HE THOUGHT DONALD TRUMP WAS UNHINGED.

YOU GOT TO MIX IT UP AND GET DIRTY WITH THESE PEOPLE. MUDDY THE WATERS, CAUSE SOME CONFUSION. >> Sunny: YEAH.

>> Joy: LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING THAT'S GOING AROUND RIGHT NOW, A LOT OF THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT PRESIDENT BIDEN GETTING CRITICIZED FOR PARDONING HIS SON HUNTER AFTER REPEATEDLY SAYING HE WOULD NEVER DO IT, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SAYING THAT IT'S HYPOCRITICAL. ET CETERA. >> IT IS.

>> Joy: AS IF THE OTHER SIDE DOESN'T DO IT. WHAT'S YOUR REACTION TO IT? >> ALL OF THE CRITICISM IS VALID BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, DEMOCRATS STAND ON THIS MORAL HIGH GROUND ALL THE TIME, AND, YOU KNOW, THEY ACT SO SELF-RIGHTEOUS.

THE REALITY, HE DIDN'T HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING IN REGARDS TO WHETHER OR NOT HIS SON WANTED TO BE PARDONED. HE COULD HAVE SAID, HEY, MAN, I'M NOT FOCUSED ON THAT RIGHT NOW. BUT SINCE THEY WERE CALLING TRUMP A THREAT TO DEMOCRACY AND THEY WERE SAYING THAT NOBODY WAS ABOVE THE LAW BUT SPEAKING ABOUT HIM, THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE RUNNING ON, SO WHEN HE KEPT SAYING THINGS LIKE, AH, YOU KNOW, NOBODY IS ABOVE THE LAW, I RESPECT THE JURY'S DECISION IN REGARDS TO MY SON, HE DIDN'T BELIEVE THAT, BUT HE DIDN'T HAVE TO VOLUNTEER THAT LIE TO BEGIN WITH.

>> Whoopi: I'M GOING TO STOP YOU FOR A SECOND. >> UH-OH. [ LAUGHTER ] >> Whoopi: ONLY BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW THAT IT WAS A LIE.

WE DON'T KNOW WHY HE CHANGED HIS -- >> DO YOU REALLY THINK HE CHANGED HIS MIND OVER THANKSGIVING WEEKEND ALL OF A SUDDEN. >> Whoopi: NO, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I THINK. >> OKAY.

>> Whoopi: NO, I THINK HE CHANGED HIS MIND BECAUSE HE GOT SICK OF WATCHING EVERYBODY ELSE GET OVER. [ APPLAUSE ] AND HE -- THIS IS JUST MY FEELING, BECAUSE AT SOME POINT YOU GET TO THE PLACE WHERE YOU JUST GO, SO I'M JUST GOING TO FOLLOW THE STRAIGHT AND NARROW ALWAYS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S EXPECTED OF DEMOCRATS. >> BUT THAT'S THEIR FAULT.

THEY'RE THE ONES THAT GO OUT THERE, AND THEY STAND ON THIS MORAL HIGH GROUND. THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT. >> Whoopi: LISTEN, I'M A DEMOCRAT.

TELL ME WHAT THE MORAL HIGH GROUND IS. >> THE MORAL HIGH GROUND IS NOBODY IS ABOVE THE LAW, I RESPECT WHAT THE JURORS ARE SAYING. HE DIDN'T -- >> Whoopi: SO, WE'RE MAD AT HIM LIVE.

>> BY THE WAY, I'M NOT MAD AT HIM PARDONING HUNTER BIDEN. >> Whoopi: BUT YOU SOUND LIKE YOU'RE MAD. >> NO, NO, NO.

>> Alyssa: I ACTUALLY THINK IT WENT FURTHER. THIS IS ONE THING WE DISAGREE ON. JOE BIDEN MADE A POINT OF SAYING WE STAND BY OUR INSTITUTIONS.

>> Whoopi: YES, I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT. >> Alyssa: IMPARTIALITY TO THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. >> Whoopi: YES, YES.

>> Alyssa: DEMOCRATS RAN ON THAT. THIS SAME DOJ INDICTED HUNTER BIDEN. WE SHOULDN'T SAY IT'S CORRUPT LIKE DONALD TRUMP, BUT IN HIS STATEMENT HE SAYS IT WAS A POLITICAL PURSUIT BY HIS OWN DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.

>> Whoopi: CAN YOU SAY WHAT IT IS THAT WHEN JOE BIDEN DOES SOMETHING, EVERYBODY CLUTCHES THEIR PEARLS. HE'S WRONG, HE LIES. >> Alyssa: NOBODY HAS CRITICIZED DONALD TRUMP MORE THAN ME OR CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD.

>> Whoopi: I'M SORRY, YEAH, PEOPLE HAVE CRITICIZED HIM MORE. I'VE CRITICIZED HIM MORE. WE'VE ALL CRITICIZED HIM, BUT YOU'RE MISSING MY QUESTION.

MY QUESTION IS, WHAT IS IT THAT MAKES PEOPLE FLIP THE -- OUT WITH JOE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME KIND OF THING? >> WELL, I DON'T THINK PEOPLE ARE FLIPPING OUT WITH JOE. I THINK DEMOCRATS ARE FLIPPING OUT WITH JOE BECAUSE DEMOCRATS BELIEVE THAT THEY DON'T REPRESENT WHAT HE'S CURRENTLY REPRESENTING, BUT THAT'S JUST NOT TRUE.

THAT'S WHY I SAY THEY STAND ON THIS MORAL HIGH GROUND THAT SIMPLY DOES NOT EXIST, AND I THINK THIS IS ALSO THE PROBLEM WHEN WE PICK SIDE, RIGHT? WE TURNED POLITICAL PARTIES INTO TEAMS. I'M A DALLAS COWBOY FAN.

AIN'T NOBODY MORE DELUSIONAL THAN ME, RIGHT? I FEEL LIKE WE'RE GOING TO THE SUPER BOWL EVERY YEAR, BUT I'M NOT DELUSIONAL -- WELL, NO, THAT IS DELUSIONAL. [ LAUGHTER ] BUT WHEN IT COMES TO POLITICAL PARTIES, IF YOU PICK A SIDE, RIGHT, IF YOU SAY YOU'RE A DEMOCRAT, IF YOU SAY YOU'RE A REPUBLICAN, YOU REFUSE TO BE OBJECTIVE ABOUT ANYTHING.

>> Sara: THAT'S WHY I'M AN INDEPENDENT. >> Sunny: CAN I -- >> Whoopi: BUT THAT'S NOT A MONOLITH. DEMOCRATS ARE NOT A MONOLITH.

>> WHY CAN'T YOU SAY WHEN DEMOCRATS ARE WRONG, AND WHY CAN'T REPUBLICANS SAY WHEN REPUBLICANS ARE WRONG? >> Whoopi: I'LL TELL YOU WHEN DEMOCRATS ARE WRONG. I SAY IT ON THE SHOW.

>> THAT'S RIDICULOUS. >> Sunny: THE PRESIDENT HAS THE PARDON POWER, RIGHT? >> Whoopi: URI KICK LOUSE.

>> I DIDN'T SAY YOU WERE RIDICULOUS, MISS GOLDBERG. >> Whoopi: COME OVER AND GIVE ME A KISS. >> COME ON.

[ APPLAUSE ] >> Sunny: JUST VERY QUICKLY, CAN YOU REFRAME IT IN THIS WAY AND THINK ABOUT IT MAYBE IN THIS WAY, THE PRESIDENT HAS THE ULTIMATE PARDON POWER. EVERY PRESIDENT HAS DONE THIS, RIGHT, AND SO WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING IS THAT JOE BIDEN IS NOW A LIAR AS OPPOSED TO JOE BIDEN IS NOW SOMEONE WHO KNOWS THE PERSON WHO IS GOING TO BE IN THE WHITE HOUSE IS ON A REVENGE TOUR AND HIS SON IS ON AN ENEMY'S LIST, AND SO HE IS USING HIS RIGHTFUL POWER, RIGHTFUL CONSIDERABLE POWER TO PARDON HIS SON. NOW, IS THAT A LIE OR IS THAT PERHAPS A CHANGE -- BEING PRAGMATIC, HAVING A CHANGE OF OPINION AS OPPOSED TO THE PRESIDENT-ELECT WHO HAS LIED ALMOST 40,000 TIMES DURING HIS FIRST TERM?

>> WELL, I CAN'T SAY WHAT IT IS BECAUSE I'M -- >> Sunny: WHO HAS THE MORAL HIGH GROUND? WHAT'S THE FULL OUTRAGE? >> NEITHER ONE OF THEM HAS THE MORAL HIGH GROUND.

THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND. IF YOU'RE A DIE-HARD DEMOCRAT OR DIE-HARD REPUBLICAN, YOU REFUSE TO BE OBJECTIVE ABOUT THE OTHER PARTY. IT'S LIKE WE'RE WATCHING THEM DO SOMETHING WRONG BUT MAKING EXCUSES FOR IT.

REPUBLICANS DO THINGS WRONG AND THEY MAKE EXCUSES FOR IT. WHY CAN'T WE ALL BE OBJECTIVE AND SAY WHAT IT IS? >> Joy: IT'S NOT -- >> Whoopi: THERE'S MORE.

WE GOT TO GO. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK. [ APPLAUSE ] ♪♪ >> Whoopi: WE ARE BACK WITH MY NEW SEX PARTNER, CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD.

[ LAUGHTER ] >> YOU'RE GETTING FRISKY ON THIS SHOW LATELY. >> Whoopi: IF I EVER GOT FRISKY ON HERE, I'D NEVER BE ALLOWED ON TELEVISION. [ LAUGHTER ] NEVER.

>> Alyssa: CHARLAMAGNE, YOUR BOOK, WHICH IS FABULOUS, YOU WERE ON IT FOR IT, AND WE ALL READ IT, "GET HONEST OR DIE LYING" ABOUT HOW WE NEED TO HAVE MEANINGFUL CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE WE DISAGREE WITH. THAT'S KIND OF YOUR M. O.

AND RECENTLY YOU WENT ON NIKKI HALEY'S PODCAST WHO YOU DON'T AGREE WITH HER ON EVERYTHING, OTHERS YOU DON'T, AND YOU SAID PEOPLE LIKE NIKKI HALEY AND GAVIN NEWSOM, WHO VERY LIKELY MAY RUN FOR PRESIDENT IN THE FUTURE, ARE DOING SOMETHING THAT ALL CANDIDATES SHOULD BE DOING. WHAT DID YOU MEAN BY THAT? >> YOU KNOW, 2028 WILL BE ANOTHER PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, AND I THINK EVERYBODY NEEDS TO START CAMPAIGNING NOW, AND THE WAY THEY START CAMPAIGNING NOW IS BY MAKING REAL CONNECTIONS WITH PEOPLE, RIGHT?

I THINK, YOU KNOW, GAVIN NEWSOM HAS BEEN DOING A PHENOMENAL JOB IN THE MEDIA. HE GOES ON FOX NEWS AND DID THE DEBATE WITH RON DeSANTIS. HE HAS HIS OWN PODCAST, "POLITICKING" WITH MARSHAWN LYNCH, YOU KNOW, AND EVERYTHING HE DOES, HE'S ABLE TO MAKE A STORY.

I THINK LAST WEEK HE WAS IN CALIFORNIA IN THE COUNTIES THAT FLIPPED RED FOR TRUMP, AND HE WAS JUST DOWN THERE SPEAKING TO THEM, AND THAT BECAME NEWS, AND I THINK WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR OWN PODCAST, AND WHEN YOU'RE NOT AFRAID TO GO IN SO-CALLED ENEMY TERRITORY, YOU MAKE A REAL CONNECTION WITH PEOPLE, AND IT'S THE SAME THING WITH NIKKI HALEY WHO HAS A RADIO SHOW RIGHT NOW, SO NOW SHE'S ABLE TO ENGAGE WITH THE AUDIENCE EVERY SINGLE WEEK. >> Joy: YOU KNOW WHO IS GOOD AT THAT, PETE BUTTIGIEG? >> PETE IS A POLITICIAN, WHO COMES TO "BREAKFAST CLUB" WHEN HE DOESN'T NEED US.

HE'LL BE THERE NEXT WEEK ACTUALLY. >> Joy: HE'S GREAT. >> THAT'S WHAT I MEAN.

PEOPLE HAVE TO START MAKING REAL CONNECTIONS WITH FOLKS. LIKE, WE TALKED ABOUT EVERYBODY GOING ON THE PODCAST, LIKE TRUMP GOING ON ALL THE PODCASTS THIS ELECTION SEASON. WHAT'S THE NEXT LEVEL OF THAT?

PEOPLE HAVING THEIR OWN PODCAST. EVERYONE ELSE IS CONTROLLING THEIR OWN NARRATIVE. WHY WOULDN'T POLITICIANS ATHLETES HAVE THEIR OWN PODCASTS, SO EVERYBODY WHO WANTS TO RUN IN 2028, WHETHER A DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN, YOU BETTER START A PODCAST OR GET SOME TYPE OF RADIO SHOW TO MAKE A REAL CONNECTION.

>> Whoopi: OBAMA REACHED OUT TO PEOPLE THROUGH THE INTERNET. NOW THE NEW EVOLUTION IS THE PODCAST. >> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> Sara: WELL, CHARLAMAGNE, YOU WERE A HOT TOPIC FOR US A FEW WEEKS AGO AFTER YOU WERE ON CNN WITH ANDERSON COOPER AND CALLED OUT CABLE NEWS NETWORKS FOR NORMALIZING TRUMP. >> Whoopi: FINALLY. >> Sara: NOW THAT TRUMP HAS WON YOU SAY THAT YOU DON'T THINK CABLE NEWS WILL EVER TRULY COVER HIM HONESTLY AGAIN.

WHY? >> NOT EVEN JUST CABLE NEWS. NOBODY.

BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T DO IT BEFORE. WHY WOULD THEY DO IT NOW? >> Joy: WHAT ABOUT US?

WHAT ABOUT US? >> Sunny: HAVE YOU WATCHED "THE VIEW"? >> WELL, WELL, LET'S BE HONEST, SUNNY, I SAW YOU HAD TO APOLOGIZE A COUPLE TIMES LAST WEEK SO SOMEBODY IS COMING WITH NOTES FROM DOWNSTAIRS.

>> Sunny: I'M NOT APOLOGIZING, I'M MAKING A LEGAL NOTE. >> WE HAVE A PETTY PRESIDENT INCOMING THAT IS GOING TO BE VERY LITIGIOUS. >> Joy: CHECK OURSELVES.

>> Sara: WHAT DOES NOT NORMALIZING HIM LOOK LIKE? OFTEN THE DILEMMA IS NOT PUT HIM ANYWHERE. >> NO, NO.

>> Sara: WHAT IS THE NOT NORMALIZING? >> YOU SHOULD HONESTLY CALL IT HOW YOU SEE IT. LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE -- >> Sunny: AND HAVE LEGAL NOTES.

>> YES, LIKE, WHEN I CALLED DONALD TRUMP A FASCIST I WASN'T CALLING HIM BECAUSE OF SOMETHING I HEARD DEMOCRATS SAYING, BUT WHAT WAS COMING OUT OF HIS MOUTH. WHEN HE WAS SAYING HE WOULD OVERTHROW THE -- >> Whoopi: ON YOUR SHOW. >> I'M SAYING THAT, BUT NOW WHEN YOU HAVE ELECTED OFFICIALS ALSO SAYING THAT, BUT THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WHEN HE'S PRESIDENT, THAT JUST GOES AWAY?

>> Whoopi: DISAPPEARS. >> HE WAS A THREAT TO DEMOCRACY, BUT JOE BIDEN IS LIKE, WELCOME BACK TO THE WHITE HOUSE. >> Whoopi: YOU KNOW, WE HAVE DIFFERENCES OF OPINIONS ABOUT THIS.

I DON'T HAVE A PARTY BECAUSE NONE OF THEM MAKE ME HAPPY. >> SEE, THAT'S -- >> Whoopi: THAT IS HOW I'VE ALWAYS BEEN, BUT PEOPLE SAY, NO, THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE. THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE.

NOBODY KNOWS. AND SO IF WE CAN GET BACK TO, LIKE, JUST HAVING THE DIALOGUE, AND NO ONE KNOWING WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE, BUT JUST HOW YOU INTERACT WITH OTHER PEOPLE, MAYBE IT GETS BETTER, AND I KNOW YOU WANT ME TO TELL PEOPLE THAT HIS NEW BOOK, "GET HONEST OR DIE TRYING," IS OUT RIGHT NOW. >> YEAH.

THAT MUSIC STARTED PLAYING EARLY. I FEEL LIKE I'M IN A WAR SHOW. >> Sunny: THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

>> Whoopi: JAMES VAN DER BEEK STOPS BY WHEN OUR FORMER CO-HOST ABBY HUNTSMAN WAS HERE YESTERDAY [ APPLAUSE ] >> Whoopi: WELCOME BACK. IT'S HARD FOR A LOT OF FOLKS TO EVEN IMAGINE HOW THEY'D HANDLE A STAGE 3 CANCER DIAGNOSIS, BUT FORMER "DAWSON'S CREEK" STAR JAMES VAN DER BEEK FOUND AN UNCONVENTIONAL WAY TO SPREAD LIGHT AND LIFESAVING INFORMATION IN A NEW TWO-HOUR SPECIAL, "THE REAL FULL MONTY. " TAKE A LOOK.

>> WHEN I HEARD ABOUT "THE REAL FULL MONTY" TO RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT CANCER DETECTION, MY HEART TOLD ME I HAD TO DO IT. MY SON SAID, WHAT, ARE YOU GOING TO GET NAKED? DUDE, THAT'S WEIRD, AND I EXPLAINED IT ALL.

ALL RIGHT, I JUST DON'T WANT TO WATCH IT. I SAID, OKAY. AND BRUNO.

>> JAMES, MY DARLING. PRIZE AFTER SURPRISE. >> I'M A LITTLE WORRIED THAT BRUNO IS GOING TO BE UNCOMFORTABLE DANCING SCANTILY CLAD.

>> THIS IS A GOOD GROUP ALL DOING SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY FEEL IS IMPORTANT AND FUN AND CAN MAKE A POSITIVE IMPACT IN PEOPLE'S LIVES, AND SO I'M PSYCHED TO BE A PART OF IT. >> Whoopi: PLEASE WELCOME JAMES VAN DER BEEK. [ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ] ♪♪ [ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ] >> Whoopi: SO, HELLO.

>> HELLO. >> Whoopi: HELLO. LISTEN, THIS HAS COME, I'M SURE, FOR YOUR FANS AND OTHERS, THIS WAS A BIG SURPRISE TO PEOPLE.

>> YEAH. >> Whoopi: BUT I UNDERSTAND YOU'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS FOR A LITTLE WHILE LONGER THAN WE'VE BEEN AWARE. >> YEAH.

I MEAN, IT WAS A BIG SURPRISE TO ME. IT WAS A SHOCK. I WAS IN REALLY GREAT CARDIOVASCULAR SHAPE.

I WAS EATING WHAT I THOUGHT WAS HEALTHY, THOUGHT I WAS TAKING REALLY GOOD CARE OF MYSELF, AND THEN, YEAH, I GOT THE COLONOSCOPY, AND HE SAID, IT IS CANCER, AND I THINK I WENT INTO SHOCK. >> Whoopi: I BET. >> BECAUSE IT'S JUST SUCH A LIFE REDIRECT.

>> Whoopi: YEAH. >> SO, FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, I WAS -- I JUST -- I GOT AN IMMEDIATE HIT THAT THIS IS GOING TO CHANGE MY LIFE FOR THE BETTER, SO WHAT ARE THE STEPS I CAN TAKE RIGHT NOW SO THAT I LOOK BACK ON THIS IN 30 YEARS AND SAY, OH, THANK GOD THAT HAPPENED, BECAUSE I NEVER WOULD HAVE DONE THIS TO THIS DEGREE. I NEVER WOULD HAVE CHANGED THIS.

I NEVER WOULD HAVE LOOKED AT THIS, SO THAT'S -- AND, AGAIN, I SAY, I'VE BEEN THAT WAY ABOUT 90% OF THE TIME. 10% -- >> Whoopi: THEN THERE'S THE FREAKOUT. >> -- I'M THE SOBBING, TERRIFIED MESS.

>> Whoopi: YEAH. >> WHICH I THINK IS A FAIRLY HEALTHY -- >> Whoopi: I THINK SO. >> -- DISTRIBUTION OF FEELINGS.

AND, YEAH, BUT I WAS ABLE TO KEEP IT SECRET THANKFULLY FOR ABOUT A YEAR. >> Sunny: YEAH, SO YOU HAD THAT PRIVATE TIME. >> Whoopi: HOW ARE YOU DOING TODAY?

>> I'M FEELING GREAT. >> Abby: YOU LOOK GOOD. YOU LOOK GOOD.

[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ] >> THANK YOU. >> Sunny: LET ME ASK YOU THIS, BECAUSE YOU WERE DIAGNOSED AT AGE 46. >> YEAH.

>> Sunny: AND WE KNOW THAT COLORECTAL CANCER RATES ARE ON THE RISE IN HEALTHY ADULTS UNDER 55. >> YEAH. >> Sunny: THAT WASN'T SORT OF THE KNOWLEDGE BEFORE.

1 IN 23 MEN WILL BE DIAGNOSED WITH IT ON AVERAGE. 1 IN 23 MEN. WHAT DO YOU WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW ABOUT IT?

WHAT HAVE YOU LEARNED SINCE YOUR DIAGNOSIS, AND WHAT WERE YOUR FIRST SIGNS FOR PEOPLE? >> YEAH, I HAD -- SO, THE SIGNS ARE LIKE CHANGE IN BOWEL HABIT, SO I CHANGED MY DIET A LITTLE BIT. THAT DIDN'T TAKE CARE OF IT.

I SHOULD GO IN AND GET A COLONOSCOPY, AND FINDING OUT THAT 45 IS NOW WHEN THEY RECOMMEND THAT MEN GET IT. >> Whoopi: YEAH. >> Sunny: IT USED TO BE 50.

RIGHT? >> IT USED TO BE 50. IT'S 45 NOW AND I THINK IT'S FOR PEOPLE WITH A FAMILY HISTORY, IT'S 40.

>> Whoopi: WOW. >> SO, THE CRAZY THING IS, THERE ARE TWICE AS MANY CASES BEING DIAGNOSED AMONG YOUNGER PEOPLE NOW AS THERE WERE IN THE '90s. >> Whoopi: I THINK WE'RE HEARING MORE ABOUT IT, SO MORE PEOPLE ARE SAYING, YES, AND NOT BEING AFRAID TO SAY, LISTEN, THIS IS WHAT'S GOING ON, HERE'S WHAT I'M DOING.

WHAT DO YOU NEED? IT'S -- >> YES, AND ESPECIALLY FOR, YOU KNOW, LIKE A COLONOSCOPY, IT'S THE ONE CANCER SCREENING WHERE IF THERE IS A CANCEROUS POLYP OR A PRECANCEROUS SOMETHING, THEY CAN TAKE CARE OF IT IN THE SAME PROCEDURE. IT'S THE ONLY CANCER THAT YOU CAN GET TESTED FOR, OH, FOUND SOMETHING, AND IT'S GONE.

>> Abby: YOU WAKE UP, AND THEY'RE, LIKE, IT'S OVER WITH. >> AND YOU JUST DODGED A MAJOR BULLET AND DON'T HAVE TO BE THROUGH THE YEAR I'VE BEEN THROUGH. >> Abby: YOUR BLOND ARMY AND THE PEOPLE BY YOUR SIDE.

WE KNOW FAMILY, WHEN YOU GO THROUGH ANYTHING HARD, YOUR WIFE KIMBERLY, YOU HAVE THE MOST BEAUTIFUL FAMILY. >> OH, THANK YOU. >> Abby: YOUR BEAUTIFUL KIDS.

>> Sunny: YOU HAVE SIX OF THEM. >> Abby: SIX OF THEM. [ APPLAUSE ] AGES 3 TO 14.

I HAVE KIDS AROUND SIMILAR AGES, AND I WOULD IMAGINE THE HARDEST MOMENT OR ONE OF FOR YOU TRYING TO KEEP IT CALM AT HOME WITHOUT THEM SEEING. HOW DID YOU TELL THEM? >> YEAH, WE WERE JUST HONEST.

WE JUST COMPLETELY WERE HONEST, AND THEY HAD A FRIEND DIE OF AN INCREDIBLY RARE BRAIN TUMOR AT THE TIME, SO IT WAS A REALLY SCARY MOMENT FOR THEM, BUT WE JUST SAID, LISTEN, I'VE GOT THIS THING. IT'S CURABLE. I CAN TAKE CARE OF IT, AND JUST, YOU KNOW, AND ALSO ENCOURAGING THEM TO BE HONEST.

YOU KNOW, ABOUT HOW THEY'RE FEELING BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL SO DIFFERENT. >> Whoopi: YEAH. >> Abby: OH, YES, EVERY KID.

THEY COME OUT WITH THEIR OWN PERSONALITIES. >> THEY ALL COME OUT WITH THEIR OWN THING, THEIR OWN KARMA, THEIR OWN DESTINY. >> Abby: I KNOW YOU DON'T LIKE PEOPLE HELPING YOU MUCH.

ARE YOU LETTING THEM STEP IN AND HELP YOU? >> THAT'S BEEN THE BIGGEST THING. THAT'S THE BIGGEST BENEFIT OF BEING BROUGHT TO MY KNEES IS ACCEPTING HEALTH.

IT'S HARD TO BE SUPERMAN ALL THE TIME. SUPER DAD. PROVIDE, BEST HUSBAND AND ALL THIS, AND IT JUST WASN'T SUSTAINABLE, AND I JUST -- I WAS NEVER THE GUY TO ASK FOR HELP AND NOW I'VE HAD TO AND THE WAY MY COMMUNITY AND MY FRIENDS HAVE SHOWN UP HAS BEEN -- I'M GOING TO GET EMOTIONAL AGAIN.

IT'S JUST BEEN EXTRAORDINARY. IT'S BEEN SUCH A GIFT, YEAH. >> Whoopi: WELL, YOU KNOW -- OH, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.

>> Abby: I WAS GOING TO SAY HE'S BEEN A GIFT TO ALL OF US TO OPEN UP AND TALK ABOUT IT. >> Whoopi: YEAH, BECAUSE IT'S NOT ONE OF THOSE THINGS, YES, THAT MEN WANT TO DISCUSS, AND, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THAT Y'ALL ARE HANDLING IT NOW AND ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE DOING AND PARTICULARLY WHAT WE'RE ABOUT TO START TALKING ABOUT, WHICH I JUST, WHEN I SAW THE FIRST COMMERCIAL FOR IT, I WAS LIKE, OKAY. I DON'T CARE WHERE I AM.

I JUST NEED TO WATCH THIS, BECAUSE JUST TAYE DIGGS AND ANTHONY ANDERSON AND YOU. COME ON. >> Sunny: BRUNO, THAT'S FUNNY.

>> YEAH. >> Whoopi: JUST, BOOM, THERE IT IS, RIGHT THERE. >> THE IDEA WAS, IF WE CAN STRIP NAKED.

>> Whoopi: RIGHT. >> TO A DANCE, YOU KNOW, TO MUSIC IN A LIVE THEATER IN LOS ANGELES, THEN YOU CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOUR DOCTOR THAT MIGHT SAVE YOUR LIFE. >> Whoopi: YEAH.

I FORGOT TO SAY THAT THE NAME OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING, BECAUSE WE WANT REALLY PEOPLE TO WATCH, "THE REAL FULL MONTY," BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT, BECAUSE FOLKS ARE TAKING THEIR CLOTHES OFF TO GET Y'ALL TO PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR HEALTH. >> Sunny: YEAH. >> Whoopi: AND IT'S A FABULOUS IDEA.

>> Abby: I'M SORRY. I'M A HUGE "DAWSON'S CREEK" FAN. >> Sunny: SHE IS.

>> Abby: I GREW UP WITH THIS SHOW. >> Sunny: SHE DID. >> Abby: IT'S BEEN 20 YEARS.

THERE WERE SIX SEASONS. NOW 20 YEAR, I HAVE TO SAY, WE COULD SCREAM ANYTHING WE WANT. YOU KNOW WHAT I CHOOSE TO WATCH WHEN I'M IN BED AT NIGHT, SHOWS LIKE "DAWSON'S CREEK.

" IT'S LIKE THIS FEEL GOOD THAT YOU GET. >> AH, SWEET. >> Abby: WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS, THAT WE'RE STILL CRAVING THAT NOSTALGIA OF THE SHOWS?

>> GOSH, I WISH I KNEW. I'D BE A TV PRODUCER AND MAKE A ZILLION DOLLARS, BUT I THINK WITH "DAWSON'S," IT WAS A VERY WELL-INTENTIONED SHOW. PEOPLE TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND SPEAKING INCREDIBLY ELOQUENTLY ABOUT HOW THEY WERE TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING, BUT I JUST THINK THAT SEED OF GOOD INTENTIONS, I THINK COMES TO -- >> Abby: DO YOU LET YOUR KIDS WATCH IT?

>> I DO NOT. IT'S A GREAT SHOW. I LOVE THE SHOW.

I THINK OTHER KIDS CAN WATCH IT. I DON'T THINK MY KIDS NEED TO WATCH THEIR DAD PRETEND TO GO THROUGH PUBERTY. [ LAUGHTER ] THAT'S MY STANCE ON IT.

>> Abby: AND NOW THERE'S THE FAMOUS CRYING DAWSON THAT WE SEE EVERYWHERE. >> YES. >> Abby: DID YOU USE THIS ON YOUR OWN FAMILY CHAINS AND -- I WOULD HAVE SO MUCH FUN WITH THAT IF IT WAS MYSELF.

>> IN THE NASCENT DAYS OF TWITTER, I WAS ONLINE, AND IF SOMEBODY SAID CLASSIC @VANDERJAMES, IS THIS A SHOT OF ME FROM "VARSITY BLUES" AND THAT WAS THAT, SIX YEARS OF WORK BOILED DOWN TO ME CRYING, AND MY DAUGHTER GOT A PHONE. SHE REALIZED HOW TO SEND A MEME. OH, SO I WENT INTO SOME OF MINE AND SENT HER A MEME OF ME DANCING, BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS COOL, AND SHE IMMEDIATELY HIT ME BACK WITH THAT CRYING MEME.

SHE JUST CHOSE VIOLENCE RIGHT AWAY. >> Whoopi: THEY GROW, AND THEY GOT STUFF DOWN. >> WITHOUT HESITATION.

SHE PULLED THAT OUT. >> Whoopi: WITHOUT HESITATION. LISTEN, YOU COME BACK TO THIS TABLE ANY TIME.

>> OH, THANK YOU. >> Whoopi: COME BACK, LET US KNOW HOW YOU'RE DOING AND WHAT YOU'RE UP TO, BECAUSE IT'S A PLEASURE. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> Whoopi: THANK YOU. OUR THANKS TO JAMES VAN DER BEEK. THE ALL NEW TWO-HOUR SPECIAL "THE REAL FULL MONTY" PREMIERES MONDAY, DECEMBER 9th.

CHECK YOUR LOCAL LISTINGS. IT WILL STREAM THE FOLLOWING DAY ON HULU. SEE HOW I GOT THAT IN, HULU.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK. [ APPLAUSE ] ♪♪ >> Sara: THE GAME WE INTRODUCED TO YOU LAST YEAR, BOXBOLLEN, CONTINUES TO BLOW UP WITH MORE THAN A QUARTER BILLION VIEWS AND COUNTING. IT HELPS REFLEXES AND BODY CONTROL, AND IT MAKES A GREAT STOCKING STUFFER, SO I ASKED THE CO-FOUNDERS OF OUR SPONSOR TO COME BACK FOR A REMATCH BETWEEN ME AND THE COMPETITION QUEEN, SUNNY.

JACOB AND VICTOR, I ALREADY KNOW HOW AWESOME THIS GAME IS, BUT SUNNY OVER HERE IS A NOVICE, KIND OF, SO BEFORE -- >> Sunny: KIND OF? TOTAL NOVICE. >> Sara: TELL US WHY THIS IS SO MUCH FUN AND SO ADDICTIVE.

>> IT'S THE PERFECT COMBINATION OF FUN AND FITNESS. YOU GET UP, PUT THE HEADBAND ON, START PUNCHING THE BALL, AVOID GETTING HIT. >> AND IT COMES WITH A FREE APP WHERE YOU CAN PLAY DIFFERENT GAMES AND PARTICIPATE IN ONLINE COMPETITIONS.

>> Sunny: YOU CAN PLAY AGAINST OTHER PEOPLE? >> Sara: YES. >> YES, TOM BRADY DID 17 HITS IN FIVE SECONDS.

>> Sunny: REALLY. >> WILL SMITH, 15. >> Sara: YOU'RE COMING ON AFTER TOM BRADY.

>> YEAH. IT'S PERFECT FOR ALL AGES FROM KIDS TO GRANDPARENTS, EVERYBODY CAN HAVE A GREAT TIME WITH BOXBOLLEN. >> WELL, MY KIDS -- YOU TOLD ME THAT LAST YEAR.

MY KIDS TOOK TO IT RIGHT AWAY. SHOW US HOW IT WORKS. >> YOU START PUNCHING THE BALL.

>> Sunny: OKAY. >> DOWNWARDS, FORWARDS IN THE BEGINNING. >> SARA, YOU ALREADY HAVE IT.

>> Sara: I'M AN AMATEUR BOXER. NO, I'M NOT. >> GIVE SUNNY YOUR BEST TIPS.

>> Sara: SHE'S DOING IT. >> Sunny: IT'S A LITTLE ADDICTIVE. >> Sara: IT IS ADDICTIVE BECAUSE YOU ALWAYS WANT TO OUTDO THE LAST TIME YOU DID IT, BUT NOW THAT WE ARE KIND OF CAUGHT UP -- SUNNY WILL ARGUE OTHERWISE -- BUT LET'S SEE HOW MANY HITS WE CAN GET IN FIVE SECONDS.

OKAY? >> YES. >> Sunny: YOU'RE GOING TO GET MORE.

YOU PLAYED THIS ALREADY. >> PRESS START. ♪♪ >> THREE, TWO, ONE.

13. >> WOW! >> 13.

WHAT! >> ARE YOU READY? >> Sunny: I PRESS START?

>> YEAH. >> Sunny: OKAY. >> THREE, TWO, ONE.

>> Sara: YES, SUNNY. >> 12. >> GOOD.

>> Sara: GOOD JOB, SUNNY. >> Sara: THAT WAS SO MUCH FUN. THE COMPETITION IS OVER, AND, UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS JEOPARDY PART 2 FOR SUNNY.

>> Sunny: IT'S NOT REALLY BECAUSE SARA OWNS THIS GAME AND PLAYS IT ALL THE TIME. >> Sara: AND WHAT SUNNY MEANS IS CONGRATULATIONS, SARA. THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSOR, BOXBOLLEN.

GO TO BOXBOLLEN. COM AND GET A DISCOUNT ON THE GAME AND ORDER TODAY TO RECEIVE IT BEFORE CHRISTMAS. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

[ APPLAUSE ] ♪♪ >> Whoopi: HEY, WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR WATCHING, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WE WANT YOU ALL TO HAVE A GREAT DAY, EVERYONE. TAKE A LITTLE TIME TO ENJOY THE VIEW, AND IF WE'RE LUCKY, WE'LL ALL SEE EACH OTHER TOMORROW.