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[Music] foreign [Music] people develop multitasking because most of young people have several gadgets electronic regarded not one they have a mobile they have an eye patch they have a laptop and so on they look at television they have radio I'm concentrating on one three more information I am losing I am missing some others that's a tragic the ability of attention the focusing attention is tremendously important it tremendously important condition of successful Education Without developing disability you can't you can't really hope for gaining from education which in principle it is able to deliver all condition that

you have developed your attention your ability to go in depth to postpone the results not develop immediate result of what you are doing and getting bored and disappointed towards you don't need but but don't get it right away cool cannot just prompt students to memorize fact particularly whether you have access to Google will remember it for you you can always you know get it back from there if you wish so it's not just memorizing it is the question of developing critical ability to distinguish the relevance from irrelevant value if you ask Google to deliver your

information about a particular issue particular problem particular personal particular place I bet that you get more than three or four billion others that's out of the question that you'll accept out of it the ability to be critical to see what is well grounded what is think about the imagination what is relevant to the issued question what is error about ability to think critically that's how I subsume the whole this kind of capability um the ankh of today have success to all people with their cell phone with global positioning system access to all places with the

internet to all knowledge so on the one hand young person confront the world which is stuffed with electronic communication so it gets it allegedly ostensibly gives absolute freedom to get access everywhere but the result of that that you can access all that knowledges exist which is much beyond the containing capacity of human brain instead of uh instead of advice lesson instruction breathing what to do with yourself how to create the kind of identity you would require you are suffocating with the excess of information and that creates the feeling of uncertainty search for certainty results in

the condition of uncertainty in order to get the certainty we produce knowledge we are so eager to produce it and produce excess of knowledge which creates the contrary to the motive create condition of uncertainty when I was a young person like contemporary students I believe together is by contemporaries that what stands behind between us and our and fulfillment of our purposes of our dreams is the upstairs of sufficient information if we only good could get more of information then we will be yeah yeah eight hour old you would be able to act as we really

evolved and find the action effective now I believe that it's rather than accessory formation which creates this situation people are off put frightened to have extend by the grandiosity of the task which they call fraud another tremendously important ability mental ability which internet doesn't support really or even counteracter games is the ability of citizens synthesis the great biologists here Wilson put it very nicely he said we are grounding in information while starving for wisdom if you get slippers instead of total picture there you find the tremendously difficult to make sense out of it it's just

a sack of potatoes each potato separate it does about to add totality [Music] you you mentioned that we should build in uh very soon in our children and our youngers uh disabilities of synthesis and to pay attention do you think that we should protect children from technology since the beginning in order to they develop disabilities or this is a process that given the fact that the world is using technology we should interact with this technology to build these abilities I don't believe that's a solution really I wish it was the it could be so easy

to achieve separation from web worldwide web is Unthinkable it is it happened it is here and it's very difficult very impossible to imagine going back behind that the big problem much more difficult to achieve is how to deploy deploy the possibilities we shall provided by the new electronic virtual salvation in the service of Education not against education but in the Secretary of Education and billions of teachers all around the world are breaking their brains in order to find Solutions issue we are living in a very early stage of electronic era I just uh 10 15

20 years in 20 years you don't create new culture it is the best the punks of birds are very painful but we are exactly in this stage the uh well the some manifestations of what's going on really should be reacted to and still should be protected against it for example the stripping young people of their make quality of attentive being we set a goal and pursues the goal well when I was young our Guru of my generation was jealous he advised us to set each one of us a project for the whole life when I

was retiring so the university it was already a quarter of a century ago when I were telling the students what round for sun said they left project for life oh yeah I would be very happy if I could have projects for next year things are changing extremely quickly very often beyond recognition and they are constantly in the in the lead we are forced to reinvent ourselves you creating asserting your own identity is not a one-off task it is a task which you have to attend to pervalently because surroundings are changing opportunities are changing it reflects

itself of the working of brain but also on human behavioral human expectation the problem is for example that young people think about going to study a particular topic particular subject which has the opportunity of offering them an interesting pass a lifetime job well Plum drop a good job well paid job love the weather water our values students apply but they want to have a collection with discipline for which there is social demand and that's quite rational of course if there's no debault well what would I do is all that I say I I need to

support myself family and so on the difficulties that the university studies take four or five years what was very much debunked at the beginning what you are choosing your directional study I could lose the world completely while you graduate the planning in the long distance is impossible on the other hand I would like to emphasize that it is the nature of Education that it does bring very very long term effects there is a Chinese proverb going back to type of Confucius even before the ancient Greeks invented the idea of paidea we are all inheritors of

paidea contemporary education is a commentary to ancient Greek paidea well this proverb so this proverb this folk visitor of China is that if you if you plan for a year so called if you plan for a sorry for 30 years plant a tree if you plan for 100 years educate people that's really that is really the long-term weapon which human culture process it brings results not immediately but it decides about the future how the social sociology will develop living teachers might not live long enough to see the results but looking back at history they will

see how worries this proverb is really the countries the Nations the communities which heavily invested in educating people I'd like to post only one question not to precisely related to education which is recently in one recent interview you mentioned a case of a student or a young that says that he was saying that in one day he made 500 friends at Facebook and you were mentioned about how those friendships in Facebook how the connections are fragile instead of real life connections I would dare to to put myself in the position of a young of a

teenager and ask you what the problem if I have my real life friends and my virtual friends in Facebook why can we conciliate those two words well online and offline you I and everybody present here in this room not visible developmental coverage physically and mentally present they are all dividing their life into two universes online universe and offline universe they're very difficult to reconcile them they must reconcile them that is the diversity of Life condition but it's very difficult because online and offline universes each one of them is Guided by different principles the advantage of

a online over on offline General advantage that is what makes it so attractive that is why Mark Zuckerberg made billions of dollars introducing Facebook you know what is so attractive in it is that it makes things which in offline lives are very difficult to achieve risky requiring self-sacrifice requiring long-term effort which as we already talked is absent right made all these things childishly easy I mentioned before in other of your questions that well according to us positive we are passing from Community Church to embody touch but we are also passing from Community to network now

that's a big difference between the two concept of them of course people who didn't experience both of them have low comparison so they don't know whether they are the same or different but they are if you analyze them quite different from each other there are the main difference to put in the natural is as I already mentioned Community is what we belong to Community has power over us they believe it research Community decides whether it won't accept us as one of their members or refuse a success just put us through the test whether we deserve

to be members of that community and then it watches our Behavior if we deviate from the straight past we are punished or even expelled exiled from the community community is a real body we stand there outside ours and we have to record with this presence we belong to community with network it is the other way around we don't belong to network network belongs to me I create a network and the advantage of on real life or offline friendship companionship being togetherness is such that if you are getting disappointed frustrated by a friend you can always

check it out you can stop answering the messages sending messages alleviate from your network in the real life it would be mind you very difficult job to to do they will be protest there would be bad blood spirit and things like that and the network are like Community is not a a human group human aggregate which holds its Integrity over time but internet consists of two activities it's constantly in state of recreation by applying to activities one is collecting the other is this collecting uh both activities are a bit childishly easy you can bake if

you really are eagerly laugh I have 500 friends in one day no problem on internet not in life in offline I didn't manage to make 500 friends in 90 years so you know but a little can do it very easily in one day if you are getting disappointed or frustrated out as I said simply bored if you think that other people but interesting still alone still unexplored sit and familiar so promising some Adventure you can always change the content the composition of your network so your network does not have holding power Community Health it has

the sanction he has the back on it we have the tools which allow it to survive over time network is surviving only due to your personal interest if you lose the interest evaporates stops to exist so it is free the kind of relationship which you enter we should tie together on internet have this common feature they are not reliable they are transitory they are until further notice and that is one of the major contribution of what we were speaking at the very beginning is a very condition becomes brittle because the human relations human bones are

weakening let's do a lot of the major reason that from negotiating how in hard work negotiating our mode of coexisting that we have to do in the act in the offline life we are seduced we are tempted by the facility the easiness the lack of difficulties efforts risks in online relationships produced by that and I think there's quite a few young people are dreaming about remaking the offline live life life on the street in the school is the family even in the workplace after the pattern of of online make it more like online rather than

making online more adjusted to the realities of life okay Professor thank you very much for your interview it was very nice by the way I wanted to add one element which we have discussed but if you discussion do something just one minute there is one problem which we didn't touch we touched the important problem of the changing Human Condition the second problem the changing impact of technology on human intellect but there is a third problem the changing role which education is called to play in our presently existing Society there are pressures in most of the

countries of the mobile that to treat education as a mechanism for two things first supplying Manpower for business for industry or something consumption industry or in second functions to reproduce the distribution of Privileges and deprivations social inequality to keep reproducing a deepening social equality thank you very much professor all right [Music] foreign foreign [Music]