AWS CEO - The End Of Programmers Is Near

honestly I feel like we've had so much AI crap recently that there's just no way that I would not do this okay here we go most developers could stop coding as soon as AI takes over you know I'm not going to lie to you this this sound this sounds like actual copium the same kind of copium that goes like this you know once Fusion Energy takes over you know what I mean this is the same dude when Fusion Energy when AI takes over uh what's what's the other good ones oh when those hen engines finally land and we can all have flying cars dude hoverboard is just right around the corner it's so close it's so close bro just just one more decade and we're going to all have hoverboards okay just one more decade it's so close when Quantum Computing Quantum Supremacy is going to start happening at any moment I remember about what what was it 10 years ago the first Quantum Supremacy algorithm happened and everyone's like dude just around the corner here we go here we go everybody's about to be all all cryption God okay RSA 2248 done RSA 496 done RSA 8192 done and then it never was done y 2K actually was pretty painful there's a lot of people's job who it was that just it initech was real okay and girl girl I'm yapping okay initech was absolutely real right initech was absolutely real so I don't I don't want to dog on Y2K all right here we go in a leaked recording Amazon Cloud chief oh really leaked right oh yeah yeah definitely definitely this this is one of those moments where somehow on accident this leaked recording from a company that provides a coding assistant leaked that developers should start relying on their product now before their job is obsolete definitely that's whoopsy daisies oopsie leaked that one in a leaked recording Amazon Cloud Chief tells employees that most developers could stop coding as soon as AI takes over you know how the government every now and then has a leak as well I think it's all planned hashtag Alex jonesing all planned all right hopefully they provide uh they provide it to us uh Amazon CEO Matt Garmin shared thoughts on AI during an uh internal fireside chat in June business insiders obtained a recording of the meeting I hope do do you show us the recording software Engineers may have to develop other skills soon as artificial uh intelligence takes over many coding tasks okay like I mean if if they're trying to ask us to touch grass or something I is that the skill set cuz I kid you not I went to my kids soccer tournament over this weekend and it was 95 degrees out and I was out there from 8:00 a. m. to 600 p.

m. and I never want to touch grass again okay I'm I'm over grass okay you know what forget it forget it who won not me okay cuz I was touching grass for hours for hours upon hours and hated every moment of it all right that's according to Amazon web service CEO Matt Garmin who shared his thoughts on the topic during internal fireside chat held in June according to the to a recording of the meeting obtained by Business Insider do you you you want to know why you want to know why this this is happening I'm going to give you a little I'm going to give you a little little hint why this is happening okay this is my thoughts on why all these CEOs keep talking about the inevitable collapse of software development and why AI is going to take the jobs it's simple one big company we'll just call it Amazon right they invest billions upon billions of dollars into their AI training two they are paying billions upon billions of dollars for coders three they're hoping they can stop investing as much into AIS because AIS get good enough to do this and build it and thus drop their actual total like yearly cost in development really really low comparatively to having a staff of software Engineers it's just a scop it's just them trying to like literally their copium for the reason for all the reason they've spent billions of dollars to train these models they have 100,000 h100s or whatever it's called from uh Nvidia Nvidia is just sitting over there laughing like you know AI you got to keep using AI Bros bros you got to get lots of AI and then all these companies are just absolutely spending billions of dollars and now they're just like well it's going to work we're going to be able to reduce our development cost by a whole bunch see that Delta let's just pretend for a sec for a second let's pretend that it does actually do this okay which it may not it may it honestly doesn't even bother me if it does or doesn't Okay Peak Roi radio over internet but let's just does let's just pretend it red it reduces the cost of development by X because they are able to make developers that much more efficient they don't need that many more people okay that happens what happens then rate of change goes way up in software right our little our little Delta right here goes way up right okay your developers start building more and more programs you think that a company that had a budget of billions of dollars for developers you think that they're going to just all of a sudden stop having that and try to show on their uh Financial sheets that they're saving a couple billion a year no they're not going to do that you know what they're going to do develop even more programs it's going to immediately it's going to go dun dun because they've committed to way more than they can chew and they're going to be just trying to churn out as fast as possible programs if the same shit's going to happen right that's all that's going to you know you know that's what's going to happen anyways if you go forward 24 months from now or some amount of time I can't exactly predict where it is it's possible that most developers are not coding who became a dude that is a quote that is a quote okay that that is dude that is such a quote we're doing it uh let's go to my bookmarks really quickly for a second we got to go to my bookmarks for a second uh bookmarks all bookmarks there's one that I keep making over and over again okay so this was in June we are now into August so I like this dude I just clicked on it where did I go why would you do that to me just let me click on it quote tweet oh you're right you're right you're right you're right good call it's crazy it's crazy oh that's June oh yeah you're right that's 15 months dude I dude it's so over off by one erir uh is observed there we go there we go it's so over it's so over it's so over uh Chad jippy wouldn't have made that mistake AI can't do math either it's okay anyways dude this is such a wild take he's like the man is actually thinking in two years I have a quick question for everybody that's in the chat I want you to type one in the chat if this applies to you your company makes really fast and quick changes to their product and staff as new things come out go ahead type one yeah I I'm seeing a lot of zeros can can you imagine any company being like all right we're just going to fire everybody make a complete change it's like two years that's that's a day in company time that's a coffee break in company time that's it's it's crazy it's honestly just crazy all again I go right back to this I think most companies if AI truly does make us more productive I think most companies are going to just simply not even realize they're getting this slow increase of productivity again assuming productivity just keeps going up but instead they're going to just build more products and more products mean more Engineers to maintain them like that's all that's going to happen right coding is just kind of the like the language that we talk to computers it's not necessarily the skill in of it uh in and of itself have you ever done C++ have you ever done any language I mean this is such a weird take there's an entire if coding really is just like not that necessary of a skill then why hire senior Engineers ever right like why why ever hire a senior engineer 90% of the work has nothing to do with writing any code at some point but that's not I mean it depends on the stage of the product right there's different stages of different products some products it's like like you go to any startup there's three people working there and there's three people that are coding full-time 80 hours a week just like F you know like that's it that's all they do because there's different you know there's different uh there's different times dang it dude my my internet just keeps crashing okay we're back we are so back we are so back we are so back it's a micro micro stutter I should work at AWS I want nothing to do spew and get paid a fortune now that the man the man is speaking is speaking such good stuff here why bother learning English when Google can translate it it's absolutely true the executive said the skill in and of itself is like how do you how do I innovate how do I go build something that's interesting for my end users to use th this is true I mean he is absolutely right this is very important but for me how I look at that is here let me let me say it like this I I totally agree with that statement the first most important skill is how do I like what's the world that I see and how can I make that world better okay absolutely agree with that but the distance from making this to this could be years of thought and slow things it could be observing the world it could be just taking time uh just programming in a regular world where you realize there's all these things missing right there's like all of that does exist absolutely then there's building the actual product which is 18 months of grinding and making something actually work and so this could take years absolutely this takes experience this takes all sorts of stuff right this is just you know like I just hate these takes where it's just like a it's you Cod is useless or coding is the only thing no there's a little bit of both but it's not there's no one place for it and then not only that Midway through it takes all it takes even more experience to know when you want to keep the ship going this direction or change directions which this is like this is a potential death sign that's very very difficult the moment you shift I did this with my startup I kind of wish we didn't have shift I actually think we could have done a lot better and it makes it you know that and that was a me not having experience right I had to fail to understand the importance of sticking something out long enough to know if it's actually a failure basically it's over for juniors I don't think it's over for juniors can you please add a new streaming Source directly to my bedroom projector please and thanks also hi Mother thanks you spa space fit for that one right I always have a problem with those kind of takes this means the job of software development developer will change Garmin said it just means that each of us H has to get more in tune with our customer needs customers needs and what the actual end thing is that we're going to try to build or try to go build because that's going to be more and more of what the work is as opposed of sitting down and actually writing code he said you know I will say this is a touchr coming from a man who CEO of the world's worst website AWS there is single-handedly no greater fracture between what the customer wants and what has been delivered than AWS I mean and and you this is provably true because versel and all these other companies exist they exist to try to make the path easier for people to have less uh less of these like core functionalities gcp is equally horrible I suffer every day yeah as youare is probably the actual worst but nonetheless it is very rich to I mean it's absolutely ridiculous to State this when you I mean the thing okay just to be I know I'm kind of mincing my words here okay flip take that out to be also to be very fair AWS the product is really really good the shell to the product is really really bad right so it's it is quite Rich to say to be in tune with the customer needs while at the exact exact same time creating an entire industry that wraps your crappy UI so it's like okay okay guy uh by the way I did want to see if I could find this I think it was trash trash Dev uh trash Dev really trash Dev is getting taken over by another guy named trash Dev what a loser what an actual loser uh let's see hold on he posts a lot of somebody else's memes so let's see if I can find this really quickly I'm going to do a one a one moment cuz I thought it was him by the way this is like my favorite this is my current favorite meme I I I I just it is my current favorite okay he did do this for a while because he made a stupid tweet you never make tweets like that maybe it wasn't trash Dev if someone wants to find it I can't remember what it was but it was something along the line of AWS trying to make a worse UI and it was so funny okay no no damn it was like a three-part damn okay whatever whatever did Twitter lost it Twitter lost it trash treats Twitter like a WhatsApp group chat he does he's wild AWS is good at hiding at service limitations you have to go you have to dig deep to figure it out yeah I mean I'm not trying to trash AWS AWS is is is a very impressive piece of software uh just a reminder Prime will be at Lon I will be at Lon I will not only be at Lon I'll be speaking at Lon right yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah talk of AI changing and even eliminating jobs has intensified lately as the companies lay off employees or stop hiring to shift resources toward AI development did I did I not did I not just call this from from 5,000 ft away they're they're they're just they're just spending a ton in AI right they're trying to offset it they're trying to justify why they're doing this they're they're truly trying to build this Utopia that will exist at some point I'm just pressing down you know I'm pressing down new AI tools that automatically generate code can help companies do more with the same number of Engineers or fewer of these pricey employees also again once again there's something very rich about this idea of building your own AI system which costs you billions upon billions upon billions of dollars to then call your AWS employees who build the project pricey Amazon laid off hundreds of employees earlier this year in a gar case he was sharing advice rather than issuing a dire warning that developers will go extinct because of AI his tone was optimistic suggesting more creative opportunities for developers I'm on that team I'm on that team that when when the supposed Utopia happens there will just be that much more software created my personal opinion is this this is my personal ai ai future is it's not a Utopia instead it does help you create more software faster but the quality is going to be literally inversely proportional and the inhi ification rate cuz right now we're sitting at like a what a 0.