Alex Cooper ON: Feeling Insecure? This Video Will CHANGE Everything! | Jay Shetty

I think as a woman especially as we've seen in the world we are not equal to men we don't have autonomy over our bodies and so it for me using my platform right now to be like let me be the boldest I can be even if people are a little taken aback I hope it just helps other women the best-selling author and host the number one Health and Wellness podcast on purpose with Jay Shetty hey everyone welcome back to on purpose the number one Health podcast in the world thanks to each and every one of

you that come back every week to listen learn and grow now this happens now and again but there's someone that I've been following admiring from afar and then you see they follow you and you just go I need to I want to connect with this human and I want to get to know them and someone that when you watch their content you feel like you already know them and the few moments I've spent with her just as she'd been walking into the studio I already felt like I had a connection with her and there's a

really beautiful warm hug and just like this really positive feeling but this is someone who has dominated as an entrepreneur being extremely successful as a business person an incredible host and interviewer someone who is so multi-talented across the board whether it's being authentic on camera off camera editing creating I mean the works and I'm speaking about the one and only Alex Cooper Creator host and executive producer of the hugely successful which is an understatement the podcast brand called call ahead daddy Alex is one of the most listened to female podcasters in the world with millions

of listeners per episodes and Alex continues to break all boundaries by shattering stigmas and stomping on misogyny all while keeping mental health and personal empowerment at the Forefront and that's what really drew me into her work was when I started to see her talk about mental health and well-being and habits I was just blown away and I was like we have to make this happen for our on-purpose community and to the millions of devoted gen Z and Millennial listeners the daddy gang the coal head which I'm a part of uh the caller daddy brand represents

a new set of values and standards and in addition to Alex has a successful merchandise line as well as several exciting businesses and Endeavors in the pipeline which I can't wait to discuss Alex welcome to on purpose thank you so much for having me I need to make that like my alarm clock every morning of like just like really hype myself up oh my my God you are so good at doing those intros no well it's part of like this culture that I adopted through living as a monk and it was just when you met

someone or when you introduced people it was always part of the culture to like genuinely feel or with who you're in front of and to genuinely take in what they've done because it a helps you feel more grateful when you're with them I feel very grateful to be with you today I feel more inspired I feel like I can learn I feel curious and I feel often at least from the culture I grew up in we always played people down like we always kind of like thought oh well we don't want to say this stuff

about them but I actually thought you have a worse conversation because then you're thinking well what do I have to learn from this person or this person's probably going to be up themselves so what am I gonna get yeah that's a great concept because I always think I feel like with social media people now everyone Millennial gen Z everyone's like we're all egotistical and so sometimes you try to downplay what you're doing but it's actually such a great concept that you're taking a complete different spin you're like let's actually embrace our successes and everything we're

doing and embrace it and enjoy it rather than feel shamed and like want to be hush-hush about it or on the other side don't be jealous of some someone if they're thriving and like because you can learn from them like I'm so excited to sit across from you today because I'm like Jay Shetty like let's get into it because I'm I'm geeking I'm a huge fan what you're doing is so incredible I listen to your podcast and I don't listen to many um but I'm very excited and humbled to be here so thank you oh

that's the biggest compliment I had no idea so now and now I'm like blushing if you're listening we're both blushing it and I have to tell you this because I just love people knowing this and I really appreciate that coming from you but I have a rule that whenever we bring on a new team member not one of the questions I ask them in the interview is who would you love as a guest of on purpose like who would that person be but then Helena who's a podcast producer it was you and and she was

just like yeah and I was like she's already scheduled I love it daddy gang Daddy and so it was just this beautiful feeling where she was like yeah I'd love Alex cute and I was like we've already got her schedule she's coming on the show like it's already happening yeah so anyway you have a lot of love in our community for you thank you uh we're all big fans but but let's dive straight into it get into it for me when I'm observing someone like you looking from the outside in I I think one of

the things that fascinates me is like you know what's someone interested in behind the camera I just saw you in Italy uh me and my wife were so jealous and fomoing because we used to go to Italy every summer when we lived in London we were both born and raised in London what was your favorite thing about Italy the food the pasta I have never been I rarely take like big vacations like that and I was so excited to just try the pasta I grew up in Pennsylvania and so you know I don't know if

we're like running to the fish but Department in Pennsylvania you're like oh what can we eat so it was kind of like Italian but it was kind of bad Italian sorry to everyone in Pennsylvania and so but I've always loved carbs and I was an athlete so I'm like when I get there it was breakfast lunch dinner pasta let's go dessert pasta let's go so it was amazing but um we went to the Amalfi Coast that was beautiful I just felt so fortunate to be there and it was it was incredible yeah I love that

yeah I was genuinely living through your stories and I was just like oh I want to go back I want to go back so we're planning next year amazing but everyone from the US felt like they were in Italy this summer everyone I know every single person on my Instagram was in Italy so I was like okay great I'm going this is the first year I won't have fomo because I always see people in these places like Ibiza or you know Mykonos and I've never been any of those places and I was like this year

I'm going to Italy and I'm doing it and it was it was amazing one of the things I love about you in person that I'm observing is that you're so warm like from the moment you walked in so warm like you know I love it when I always when someone gets out their car and they arrive at my home they first thing I want to do is hug them then when I when I see that same energy I'm like this is awesome but one of the things people observe about you online is that you're confident

you're very confident on the podcast you're you're very confident in your stories which is a beautiful quality with young Alex confident too I know we heard we've heard about like you grew up in front of the camera with your father and like you know so was confidence always easy for you and how is your journey with confidence evolved and the answer is no um absolutely not I it's actually been interesting because the past year I've really started to get into this in therapy with my therapist and I haven't really like I've I think I've mentioned

it a couple times to the daddy gang but I don't talk about it a lot because I'm still kind of going through it in therapy when I was younger I had a really hard time in school not grades wise you know I was a solid B let's throw it out there maybe I tried a little harder we could have gotten to maze but I was severely bullied for my looks I was super super skinny people made fun of me said that like I looked like I had an eating disorder I had awful awful acne to

the point where like I would beg my parents to like let me stay home from school and I was it was so bad and I turned inward a lot like I never wanted my parents to know that I was going through it because I was ashamed it's embarrassing to not be able to connect with your peers and also to be I was physically bullied like the boys would be like let's play a game her legs are so tiny like if we trip her they will snap in half and like it was awful and I never

really talked about it but what got me through it actually was my dad works in sports and he's a producer and I remember at like seven years old he handed me a camera and was like go make something and so my escape from really hate like I hated everything about myself I hated my my skin my face my hair my teeth my body my torso my legs like I could pinpoint every single thing about myself that I hated and it was almost Everything Exterior wise but inside I knew I was a good person I knew

I was a good daughter I knew I was a good friend but I felt like it was all based on looks of why I was getting bullied so I turned to creating content that's what I was my escape and I would go in my basement and I would make music videos or I would write scripts and make like little short films or silent films and I would put on wigs and put on outfits and makeup and it was the first time that I truly felt safe like I could be fully myself meanwhile I was fully

alone so I'm like I'm like a weirdo in my basement but it was that and soccer specifically I played extremely competitive soccer and I realized why I got I felt so safe also and seen in soccer because it was all women can you score a goal like what are you doing so what do you bring to the team you know so I I don't talk about that a lot because it was actually interesting I recently was interviewed by the New York Times and I don't do a lot of interviews I read that um and it

was in a follow-up conversation we had like an hour and a half interview the reporter asked to do a follow-up and somehow we got on the topic of my childhood and he and I started talking and I shared with him that I had been bullied and quite literally physically his demeanor his fate like his jaw dropped and I could tell he was shocked and everything that prior that hour and a half interview I first did with him kind of was shattered because he was like wait what like you were bullied and I realized something that

moment was like the character I've created on call her daddy there's this dichotomy of for me the girl that was bullied and then the girl I've created or the woman I've created in the show but I think a lot of people have a hard time because everyone wants to put things in boxes understanding like there's no way Alex Cooper The Confident color daddy girl could have also been bullied when she was younger and what I've come to realize in therapy is actually that ugly awkward acne girl is who started call her daddy because if I

had not gone through that there's no way I would have started call her daddy I remember reading um Malcolm gladwell's uh outliers and it was like you've got to have 10 000 hours to even be considered an expert by eighth grade I was considered an expert in editing I was like obsessed with creating content and so that's kind of a little bit of my story where I definitely struggle sometimes to open up about it because I'm also aware on the internet sometimes people like you're lying that's not true and it's it's I think it's hard

for me because it's still so raw like I still haven't even fully gone there in therapy that I don't talk about it a lot because I don't want to be dismissed or questioned over something that is so personal and still really hard for me to talk about I guess yeah yeah well I want to thank you for trusting us and and me and being vulnerable but also talking about the complexity of vulnerability I think we think we live at a time when if someone is vulnerable that everyone's response will be like oh you know all

a people think that's why someone's doing it B if they don't think then they think you're just being vulnerable sometimes it's complex to say well maybe it wasn't that hard as someone's making it out and then there's a third where it's like well can we just listen to someone's experience and recognize that I think if all of us reflect like I just realized we have so much in common which I had no idea and if you looked at it from the outside I don't think people would think we have much in common at all which

is partly why I love conversations like this because I'm like these are the conversations that bring me to life so I always believed for being overweight growing up I was obese growing up and so was my wife actually and so separately we didn't know each other at the time but we were both bullied for being overweight I was bullied for being Indian because there weren't many Indian kids in my school and so the color of my skin and all the rest of us bullied for that and I wasn't the coolest kid in school I was

a straight A student so I was the opposite and it was like and it was considered dorky to be smart where especially where I grew up and so I dealt with all of that too and so when I'm hearing you say that I was beaten up at school regularly my mom used to come defend me in school like that was really embarrassing like and even now when people are like no way like and I'm like no that was my entire childhood and for me I turned to listening to Eminem and writing music so I did

a lot of spoken word I used to produce music it's why I love word and language and and just the Artistry of what you can do with words and then when you said you played soccer which I which I know but I'm like that is my first love like if I could be anything in the world it would be a professional soccer player like Beyond everything that is crazy to hear because I agree with you and that is why I love podcasting and why I love your show my show is like you really have no

idea what one you can connect with someone on empathize with someone on or just like learn about them and I feel like we've gotten to a point where we want to like discredit and call people out and it's it's scary to be open and vulnerable on the internet and I think like almost my Persona there was parts of me that I had to like try to claw back what I started for color Daddy because I was like hold on I need to also like there's other parts to me other than the salacious wild crazy and

I it was a great transition for me which I know we'll get to but the bullying thing when you're that young and truly all that matters is peer acceptance and you feel so alone you hate yourself and I realized recently like I know my Persona is one thing and that's why I always struggle with this I'm like oh I gotta like ease my listeners into like me talking about this because it's a complete different side of myself but we all have that right we all have those things like I remember the first time I shared

this with my mother was when I was 21 years old in a cab that I had been bullied and I told her mom in high school I used to put on three pairs of leggings tape it to my leg and then put on my school pants just to hope that everyone would think my legs were bigger wow and by the time I would have soccer practice after school my like my joints were in so much pain from sitting in class and I told my mom this quite literally as we're pulling up to Penn Station she

was getting out and I was gonna keep going I told her this as she's getting out of the cab and she's like Alex like what and it was my defense mechanism of like I don't really want to talk about it but I need to let my mom know what I was going through when I look back thank God I had my father has been the most supportive person in my life with my career and I'm so grateful for that like he any moment I needed anything he was like let's go find you I want to

make a green screen in the basement and he's like let's go to Joanne Fabrics like here we go let's go to Home Depot like let's go lights like it was I was so fortunate to be raised by people who support me but I also realized I had these like people pleasing tendencies because and I still catch myself doing it in media like I just want to be liked because of my childhood because of feeling left out and it's hard and I think comparison like my best friend was the beautiful doll baby perfect girl that I

wanted to be and it's like there's so many remedies I tried to look up um on Google when I was younger of like how to how to like fix your skin and how to make your legs look better bigger and is there a procedure and it was like I just can't believe how much I hated myself but I truly don't believe I would be sitting here if I hadn't gone through that because I think that's the thing like you just said you had no idea what I went through right why I feel like I am

half decent at my job is when I sit down with people there is this empathetic side to me that yeah maybe I don't need to talk about because I don't think I need to prove anything to anyone as to why I'm a good friend why I'm a good daughter and partner but like it really does come from feeling so alone and isolated and hating yourself that in those moments when I'm in my basement making and creating I had to find a way to love myself because I found like this journal of mine when I was

younger oh my God it's so sad and it was like really dark thoughts of like what if I did this would then the kids would feel so awful and it's like whoa I was really alone when I was younger and I I never talked about it and I had a friend recently that shared similar Thoughts with me we were best friends and I had no idea what she was going through and she had no idea what I was going through so it's it's just like a reminder of like we really don't know and I know

that's such an over said thing but you have no idea what people are going through and um I think especially with social media we can make judgments especially snap judgments you see a headline you see a picture but like we have no idea what people are going through yeah absolutely I couldn't agree with you more and I love the point that you're making that and I think everyone has it through some way whether it was your parents whether it was your friends whether it was your peers there was someone who made you feel less than

in your childhood inadequate incomplete and now we're all in our creative and Endeavors seeking that completion through whatever role character whatever it may be and I think people forget that half the time the most successful people who do the most incredible things did them because they had this huge gap in hole to fill and the world needed to fill that hole in gap absolutely only then to realize that that doesn't work either right to then have to go the other way but sorry you're going to say something no I I agree with you it's like

there's there's a reason I'm so passionate and interested in what I'm doing it's because like I love connecting with people I love learning about people because I know that the dichotomy of call her daddy girl first ugly awkward acne girl it's like you you don't expect it and you don't really understand it until I fully explain it which I know I haven't explained yet but it's it's when I sit down with people you I love learning about people because we're all going through such similar things it may look different it may feel a little bit

different but depression anxiety um happiness love joy whatever emotion like we are all human beings and we we genuinely actually all can connect we every single person can connect on at least one thing in the world and so I feel like we've kind of lost that along the way and I I hope I think with shows like ours like I hope it brings a little bit of that authentic nature back because we're looking past like what could be inside of someone we're just looking on the surface level and that to me is a nightmare because

when I was younger I didn't want anyone to just take me by my looks because then I wouldn't be given the time of day yeah it's incredible to hear that I was literally having the same conversation I was with one of my clients this morning and we were talking about this and he was saying how unrelatable his life has become now through his success and everything that he's gone through and I looked at him and I I was talking to him and I said to him that you know I'll be honest with you that whether

someone's rich or not famous or not if someone goes through a breakup a breakup hurts the same because none of the other stuff is medicine like none of the other stuff is the cure so whether you have Fame and status and wealth or whether you don't if you go through a breakup if you lose a parent if you lost your job like or you missed out on opportunity there is a similar amount of experience human pain that you go through and I think what you're saying is really interesting though like I think you're talking about

that time people always often ask like oh what advice would you give to your younger self with you I'm more interested in like what do you think your younger self would say to you now like if that acne girl like saw you now as you described uh what would she say what would she think if younger me only knew like Alex you're you're gonna make it you're gonna like your dreams are gonna come true like you're gonna get out of this um I remember one of the boys I went to middle school with that bullied

me ended up going to my college and at that point I had a little glow up KJ and uh he was was like trying to hit on me and and giving me all this attention and it it only made me just feel actually awful because I was like I'm the same person I'm the same exact person if if not like more grown and obviously experienced and have a little bit more of a higher IQ at this point in my life but I'm the same person to my core and you're only treating me differently because I

got a prescription for Accutane got some hair dye got my braces off put on some muscle because I'm playing soccer like it's quite literally just the physical as to why you're you're acting differently towards me I think my younger self would look at my older self and would not even believe it probably I actually was thinking like what would I say to someone that's younger and going through this and it's like there's nothing of like walking to school that day and stand up for yourself it's actually like find yourself in your alone moments because you're

all you have truly and so trying to get peer approval short it may make the moment a little bit easier but like these people don't actually matter they matter to me to my core of who they've made me their impact on my my childhood and making me hate myself like it's so crazy I always think about before I would say about before like fifth or sixth grade we're so innocent you have no almost concept of even what you truly look like or or your peer dynamic or oh boys are looking at me and I don't

have boobs yet and my friend does and so they're I'm not on their top five and I know it sounds so you know just dumb and but it's so means so much when you're that young so I look back and it's like those years where you start especially to be judged for what you look like when we're actually just trying to figure out inside who we are it's so problematic I definitely think that it affected me of what I I put then I did put emphasis on my looks I can talk about that in therapy

now like hating every single thing about myself of course I was like I want to go bleach my hair I want to be the girl that I saw on the magazines and then I did all of that and I even looked back at pictures of myself when I took it way too far but it was all just for me to try to feel like the women that I thought had it all because if they looked a certain way I guess I would just tell my also I would tell my son younger self like keep going

down in that basement it sounds creepy guys my basement was like finished don't worry and leaning into your craft because in the darkest of moments creating content actually formed who I am and gave me the strength to keep going and it made me a full whole individual in my own right and when I was getting bullied and when I was going through those Hard Times realizing I'm gonna turn my passion into my purpose that's all I needed to be like okay let's keep going so it I was really fortunate to find that at a young

age but I think a lot of people do when you're at a young age and you are going through something so hard you find that outlet right and everyone has that one thing that like I love this and I'm I'm just fortunate enough to have made that into my career Alex I love listening to you like I am just so happy right now because I'm like what we're hearing and I love what you said earlier that you're in therapy right now you're working through this and so you haven't shared so much of this but I'm

just hearing so much coherence and so much Clarity and it's so beautiful like hearing someone who's gone through so much pain so much stress and yes externally there's the success but then to hear the what's happening internally and you've just reminded me of a moment of my life I'm just I remember being at the final year of elementary school or primary school as we call it in London and there was one girl that everyone fancied in class and I I fancied it too like she was the cutest girl in school we're like 11 years old

so whatever cute means at 11. I I think it was the first time I'd ever like liked a girl in like in that way I come late to school one day and everyone's looking at me weird like everyone's really looking at me really strange and everyone's laughing and some of the girls like in the corner like laughing and pointing and I'm thinking what what happened like what did I miss out on I can't remember I was like maybe doctor's appointment whatever then I found out that all the guys who equally fancied this girl had told

the girls that I fancied her so not anyone else knew apart from just me and I was considered the ugliest fattest kid in school and so now she knew this all her friends were laughing and then the rest of that day they all stood I used to be a goalkeeper because I wasn't very athletic at the time I used to be a gold and goalkeepers are very athletic so no no offense to go givers at least at that time when you're a kid in school it's okay Jake yeah I'm just like yeah you know all

right guys we gotta clarify just being clear just being clear I think goalkeepers are very damage the hair all the way I'm in goal and all the girls are standing behind the goal and they're just like they're like Jay you can never get her I can't believe you thought it she's out of your league and they're literally the whole day throughout the playground like every time we're playing football soccer they're just behind the goal like making fun of me and it's such a like no it makes me memory it makes me honestly because I think

it's it's interesting I even watch you we can smile through it now but like it honestly makes me want to cry when I think about it because even hearing that like I can picture that happening to you because I it happened to me and it's so traumatizing when that happens to you and you literally are just fighting back tears and you're like just get through it just get through it and all you want to do is go home and it makes you hate interacting it makes you nervous you get really like clammed up and it's

it's awful like I remember when I was in um uh Middle School also like my teachers I went to Catholic School and I just like never thought I belonged in Pennsylvania yeah I was like what am I doing here like I just it I knew I wanted to do something that was definitely like big but I also knew this is a very conservative town and we were shamed for anything regarding anything because it's Catholic and I remember we weren't allowed to wear makeup and I was breaking out so bad like it was so awful this

week and it was Final so I couldn't skip school like I would beg my mom to let me skip school and she thank God to my mother would see when I was really struggling would be like okay you can stay home I put a tiny bit of concealer over some of my acne because I would sit next to this kid that was like the coolest kid in school and he I would always be so upset because he got to see that side of my face and in front of the entire class my teacher I want

to call her out Mrs G I'll just say okay I'm like getting there um she comes over to the entire class and looks at me goes Alex you're wearing face makeup go to the bathroom and wash it off she escorted me into the bathroom made me rub my skin raw in a school bathroom no soap just water scrubbing it off my face was so red and I remember just being like can I can I go to the bathroom she's like no get back to class and I just trying to hold back tears and my entire

face was inflamed and I was like so now I'm not even experiencing bullying from kids like this is like how does this teacher not know and she has kids so it was like it was a lot but I will say it made me who I am today I look back and I'm like had I not gone through all of that like I said earlier I know who I am now I didn't back then I was trying to figure it out but I know who I am now and I know my morals and my values and

I know that a lot of that stems from the pain that I went through and I am a very empathetic person um maybe I don't show that a lot on my show but but I I think it's it's all relative I'm like oh if I could go back would I redo it no maybe I would have wish I told my parents a little bit more um but still I think it made me really turn inward and that created a different level of strength and self-reliance that like I can't even put into words so that is

such a powerful point I mean you've made so many amazing points that I'm going to be drawing together for Allah listeners at the end but like that is such a powerful point that I think and and I don't wanna tell people to go either way but there's a different strength that comes from going inward than than the strength that's required from asking other people for help and both strengths are important like going out and knowing to ask your mom or your dad or your best friend for help is extremely important but knowing how to go

and ask yourself for help internally is equally important I think that is such a beautiful Point I've never heard it been put that way thank you and and I love that idea of because I feel the same way I felt so isolated and alone and even today when I feel that way sometimes but now it's become solitude it's become a strength because I've got used to depending on myself and and I know what that feels like when I'm like I'm all I have and I know what that feels like so now it doesn't scare me

totally whereas at 12 or 13 or 14 it really did I think one of the things we're talking about is an evolution and identity and awareness and this has been something that I've struggled with as things have become more public as well because so I went from being that kid that was bullied to being fairly in with the cool kids in high school to then going to college and being a budding spiritualist like my college life if anyone met me at College they'd be like Jay was like nice and loving and spiritual and and mindful

and all these things that I was practicing if you spoke to my high school friends it'd be like Jay was a party animal he drank too much he was crazy like he was the class clown like he tormented teachers like that was my reputation and so you get this complete dichotomy and I feel like every transition my external life took I saw it as an opportunity to become who I wanted to be so as I left High School I wanted to become this mindful thoughtful individual and that's what I was at college and then I

went off to be a monk which was a whole different external identity left that and now obviously doing all of this for the past few years and and so many more in between but the point is that I've given myself permission to accept that I am the same and different person all at the same time so beautiful right like and I've given myself that permission even when other people haven't and I feel like I'm constantly going through that where I did used to be a monk I'm not now I'm married I have a home I

have businesses I have money like so life has changed but there are parts of being a monk that are still me I they're still there I still think like a monk and there's parts of my lifestyle that are still like among they're posted or not so coming back to you you've also been on an evolution of identities we've just talked about a very clear one you then have the beginning of the podcast which is very well documented it's all there I I don't want to dive into it and that part of the Journey's there and

then now it becomes another label where it's like Spotify 60 like it just it becomes so like diluted to a number and a brand uh and you can go wherever you want to go with this but the question I'm asking is what has been the hardest part of that Evolution for you to where you are now and what do you think people misinterpret about that Evolution it is difficult because I feel especially as a woman in the industry I have to tiptoe on not being overly confident like I think women can all feel it don't

be too much of this always Veer on the side of just be quiet well I've got a podcast that's a little bit difficult right so I I definitely have struggled with the person and who I've become is confident and I want to embody this confident and determined badass CEO running my life that any woman could do what I'm doing right in whatever aspect they want to do it in their life and whatever their passion is but it is difficult when that I walk into board meetings or meetings with these men that and I'm like I'm

telling you what I want and I feel like if a man was sitting here it would be a very different conversation if anything he'd be going light and so I've struggled with why am I always called the female Joe Rogan does anyone compare say oh Joe Rogan's the male Alex Cooper no we have similar numbers we've really loyal audiences we both are with Spotify like and I know shade to Joe I'm actually just saying it's frustrating that it is a de-qualifier it's it's putting me comparing me it's not even comparing me they're just saying like

oh she's basically him but like as a woman I don't want to be compared to anyone and I don't it's been hard for me to do it in a way that yeah I'm not coming off as like angry and mad and I think there has been times where I feel like I can't be all in business mode at times as I want to be because I'm as a woman gonna be labeled and it's like no I actually just know what I want and I'm a boss and I am running a huge company and I have

so much going on and I don't want to waste anyone's time and I know what I want what a concept so I think I think that is something that people have misinterpreted also on the internet of like oh she comes off so like I don't know if I don't even know if it's aggressive like I think as a woman especially even if I don't know what I want pretend I know what I want because we're at a time where as we've seen in the world we are not equal to men we don't have autonomy over

our bodies and so it for me using my platform right now to be like let me be the boldest I can be even if people are a little taken aback it I hope it just helps other women be like I'm gonna go in today and advocate for myself to my boss or I'm gonna stand up to that per because it's like we're getting nowhere if we don't keep shoving it forward a little bit and I I've gotten at times a little nervous and I'm like I could just sit and do my interviews and stay quiet

but that's not for who I've been I've always had an opinion I'm a Leo okay I know what I want um but it is hard because it's it's like uh I think there's a lot of people that are a little skeptical of a really and I hate when people say loud am I talking that loud no people like she's so loud I'm like am I loud or am I just speaking about something that maybe you don't want to hear because you don't like change and we need change so that's something that I'm currently working on

a therapy I don't think I've ever done I'm about to clap on the podcast I don't think I've ever done this but any now I'm just gonna clap I'm gonna take a moment to go out and there should be more people copying Jordan I need someone come on hold on there there we go oh my God I no I I and I'm and I've genuinely never we've never done that podcast ever like that's the only time the first time that we're done uh I really mean that everything you just said like it's so true I'm

totally aligned with you I can only look at it from the perspective that I grew up with a Powerhouse mom who uh worked cooked raised me and my younger sister provided for us both when my dad was figuring his life out um my mom was the breadwinner in the house she was the one who helped me with my homework she taught me how to shave like like that's literally who my mom was in my life and so I grew up seeing the most powerful woman in the world in my opinion as a young boy and

like my mom would take me to all the meetings at night whatever whatever needed to happen and then I was kind of like an older like a father figure to my younger sister and so I've seen it in her too and I've seen like the stuff she's gone through at work and wherever it may be so I can only empathize from that perspective but when I'm listening to you speak I'm just like it's sad that we're still there like it it just pains me I'm like how can we still be there and how can we

still be stuck there and I want to dive into the the gender part with you because I do think it's it's important that we talk about it here I deal with that in a different way and I've never talked about this either but I I feel like we're both yeah yeah and it's also like I feel understood with you and I also know that you are because you interview and you do such an exceptional job with it it's like I feel like I'm getting to like open up my heart together I'm like opening up my

heart to you but no I mean in the sense of so I often get perceived as like well Jay you're a monk and you're mindful so you're not allowed to be driven and ambitious so if I have goals in a business meeting or a PR meeting or whatever it may be it's like oh but Jay like you shouldn't have goals right I'm like yeah can I not be both am I not allowed to be both like and so people are constantly like but Jay like and and it's like if if we reach for something and

I've you know I come from a background of a straight A's I worked in the corporate world I'm highly organized I'm a high performer It comes naturally to me and that's me and then I was a monk and I have the the meditative side and I meditative two hours a day and I wake up early and take cold showers and all that kind of stuff but it's like to me I've tried to put both together to create this real world because neither one makes me happy without the other so I get the perception of well

Jay how can you be mindful and driven how can you be ambitious and meditate how can and I'm like but that's what we should be encouraging people to be like I feel like it's because we have gotten so comfortable putting things in boxes and I love that you're saying that because it reminds me this is I think such a relatable topic take me and my deal and my podcast and being a public figure out of it you mentioned something about how you have these different stages of your life and I feel like it's so normal

and healthy honestly to progress and almost be different people of your versions of yourself and try things out I remember in high school when I was a little bit more now secure with my looks okay and I was now The Jock I was on the soccer team I was a freshman I was thriving with my soccer girls they were like big on campus and I was still obsessed with making content right I was so embarrassed that I was in the video production class because people my video production Professor God bless him he was I guess

people would consider like a little nerdy and a little too techy and I was like I am so honored to be his student and a teacher like have him teach me he would we would watch movies after class and like not in a creepy way um but he was educating me on film and before me too we would watch Alfred Hitchcock I remember the first time he showed me psycho and so I was learning but I lied to my peers because so my mom I convinced my mom please can we go in and talk to

the dean of students I want to do video production for all four years as my elective I never took Health which is interesting never learned about sex education okay so interesting um but I remember people being like why are you in that video production class for all four years this is so weird and I was embarrassed and I lied and I was like I don't know like they think I'm good at it so like uh whatever I don't have to take Health at least like whatever I downplayed it I was so passionate I loved it

more than soccer it was my literally my existence it felt like that is why I'm here this is what I'm meant to do but I was so embarrassed because I couldn't be a jock and also a tech girl sort of like a tech geek or whatever they would call me and so I tried to hide that part of myself and I feel like a lot of people do that even hearing you say that like why can't you be mindful and also determined and it's like I actually think that is the such a beautiful human being

when you can combine all the different parts of yourself to all be in a somewhat cohesive working situ situation it works so much better for your mental health we shouldn't all just be narrow-minded we shouldn't just have one thing that we're focused on are you do you have a relationship are you a good friend you don't act like you're to your romantic partner like you do to your friend what about are you a good son a daughter like it all is in the scheme of being humans we have to have multi-dimensional parts of ourselves but

something about being in a box it doesn't work Jay if you're both of those because it can't be true well why not and I think just talking about it anyone listening you should not Veer away from a passion because it doesn't align with something other publicly that you're doing because it's like almost a contradiction I love a contradiction I that is what I do on my show they're like well you said this last week I changed my mind this week and not in like a okay Alex well we can't believe anything you say but things

change and things shift but we have to be cognizant of how we're embracing different parts of ourselves because if we try to not do that and just stay in one lane we're not going to grow we're not going to be happy with ourselves and we're just going to be appeasing the people around us instead of what do we want I appreciate you sharing that because I think it's a really relatable thing of like how can I be both of course you can be both it's just Society has made us feel like well you're a poser

you can't be both which one isn't as true they're both true I'm about to clap again no I'm just I I hope it's okay like I don't know I'm I'm opening up because I just feel like the stuff we're talking about is is relatable in different ways right like I don't know what it feels like to be a woman in the industry I never will I will never be able to be like I get that I totally know what you mean but I I get what I'm feeling in the same expression of sometimes I feel

told to be quiet sometimes I feel told to be like well Jay you shouldn't have that desire like I'm told to like calm down sometimes uh not because I'm aggressive in any way but in the sense of just because I'm a driven ambitious person so going back to what you were saying earlier there's a part of it where it sounds like especially and I love winter like it's not about it's not about what Joe's doing it's not about what anyone's doing it's just why does everything have to be a comparison and that then starts to

be a respect issue right it starts to be an issue in like are we giving enough respect to what you've achieved and what you've built in the same way as I'll be giving respect to anyone else for what they've achieved and what they've built what has been your relationship like with respect it's hard because there's a couple Dimensions to it right my listeners quite literally and I know this sounds corny but like truly feel like an extension of myself like we have an understanding we have talked about the most deep in depth maybe taboo topics

uncomfortable topics and I'm when I meet the daddy gang shout out everyone listening to Saturday game when I meet the daddying out in person I always joke because whenever I'm with anyone they come up to me they're like oh my God Alex I'm like hi what's up and they're like okay and they start talking and the person that's with me that's my friend or my parent or whatever they're like oh who is that from college or high school I'm like no that's daddy gang like wait how did wait you guys just started talking about her

break like what we have this understanding of like if you listen to call her daddy and I'm sure you have that with your audience like you build such a rapport the respect I have for the daddy gang and my listeners and people that give me a chance it is so mutual and it is so beautiful and I I can't still to this day believe what has been built of caller Daddy and the daddy gang and my relationship with them and theirs with me I think where it becomes a little bit of a struggle is in

the beginning of call her daddy it was this beautiful storm right a female-led podcast working at Barstool Sports which people are like oh is that a misogynistic company it was like actually The Perfect Storm of like Oh I'm a woman and I'm gonna have the biggest show at Barstool Sports Watch Me dance okay and it was like this really cool challenge but I think because of the nature of the content at the beginning of call her daddy it it's difficult because I am in no way shape or form I wouldn't change one thing about the

beginning of that show it was so provocative and in your face and women needed it at the time it was like oh instead of because I think the feminist movement has had many different forms right it continues to change and evolve and at that point as someone who had just graduated college I was everyone can be a feminist right and you can have a different version of how you associate it with it but as long as you believe in the quality of the Sexes boom okay and you respect women great but for me it was

like if men can say it to us let's say it right back and they're not gonna like it and it's gonna be really uncomfortable but let's go for it and I think a lot of people loved it no I know a lot of people loved it the show blew up and it was controversial and it was amazing my struggle was being so proud of what I built but also we just talked about that box of like but I kind of want to talk about other stuff too yeah and I felt like I got pigeonholed into

this like that's the girl that talks about sex and dating and it was really difficult for me to respect and acknowledge what had been built and and it was it is like brilliant What call her Daddy original days was but I also now I'm 28 and I started it at 22 23. I don't want to be the same person I was at 22. I'm not I have a different outlook on life I have a greater interest in what's happening in the world um in making a difference are you kidding me out of 22 I was

like let's drink Let's Talk About Sex and let's have fun and that was so and that's what you should be doing right at that age yeah yeah but now as I've tried to transition the show not because and I want to clarify no one has told me to do this I made the decision because two things happened in the pandemic I think when you talk about something like sex and people are so freaked out by that concept and and a little nervous to I remember back in the day engage with the brand because it was

like oh they talking about sex that is one of the most intimate topics that you can really talk about and a universally inclusive topic right we all think about it in some capacity right I felt like if I can talk that deeply and that openly and that vulnerably on this platform to millions of people still in therapy about that why was I so okay doing that we're working on it okay but the point is is if I can do that my audience was ready when the pandemic hit we need you to talk about some other

stuff because none of us are enjoying our sex life right now but we trust you enough Alex let's have deeper conversations and that is when I began talking about mental health and that is when I opened up and acknowledged I'm in therapy and the stigma around therapy to I know a lot of people is what's wrong with you my mother is a psychologist I grew up where mental health was the number one prerequisite in the house of how's your mental health what's going on in your head where are you at so I think that transition

for call her daddy for me felt so organic it was like of course we gotta talk about more stuff it's like eventually you graduate from high school you got to go to college or algebra one we go to algebra two like call her daddy is cemented as one of the best sex and relationship podcasts there's 80 episodes it is fire you can learn some amazing tricks of the trade okay but what's next and I could feel my audience ready for something new and I was ready for something new I wanted to explore other topics not

that I'm not going to continue to talk about those things and that I think was a difficult transition that some people that don't want change not my audience my audience not only stayed with me but then grew because people were like oh we're spicing up a little bit there's more topics there's more conversations just not about sex but I saw people that didn't like the show in the beginning they're like nope you're still the sex girl you cannot be talking about mental health and talking about sex you can't tell me you're talking about sex in

a deep deep conversation that has to do with mental health or you're not getting deep enough because well no pun intended but um but when I talk about that it's like what we're going through in the world right now with sexual identity and fluidity and trying to understand I mean it's so beautiful now that we've started to embrace the concept of non-binary and it's like letting people do what they feel comfortable doing that is mental health and that is sex right so I think the struggle of respect has been people not loving me venturing out

and straying away from what initially was the bread and butter of call her daddy and I have been an athlete my whole life Jay I love a challenge When someone tells me I can't do something and but I will not lie it has been so hard like trying to stay true to myself authentic to the content but also knowing and cognizant of the fact that there are people that are like she's still sex she it's just sex and I'm like I what what and so it's a difficult balance but I've tried to just block out

the noise not read as many of the comments and now I think through the the new kind of version of the show it's so cool that I've taken on these interviews and kind of like going back to what we kind of said in the beginning I'm having on these celebrity guests that everyone's like oh you're gonna have on celebrities now but the point was and it goes back to what we were saying earlier I love this challenge of like you're gonna leave and you will relate to Demi Lovato you will relate to Miley Cyrus you

will relate to Chelsea Handler like the these people that are coming on that seem so their life is so unattainable no we can relate to them and I've been fortunate that this new format and I think through my therapy journey and just because I know myself and I am a warm person I am so interested in people's lives I want to understand people better it makes me better it makes my audience better almost every single time a guest leaves call her daddy they say wow I have never felt so comfortable in an interview and I've

never opened up as much as I did in this interview and I take pride in that because I put a lot of effort into making people feel comfortable because when you're talking about really really intense topics like we're talking about today you need to be open-minded you need to come into an unbiased and you need to provide a space where it's like you're safe let's have a conversation and no judgment and I think a lot of these celebrities feel ex listen they have so they have there is no denying we're not saying they don't have

privilege and they don't have so many resources we don't have um but it's trying to humanize and I think in a cool way my listeners have loved the new kind of version of call her daddy and then I guess this is the last part of also I don't plan there's one day that it's not like I need an episode like this one day and then this it's every week I walk in and I'm like I think I know who I want to interview because it feels right and I read all the DMS from the daddy

gang and I'm I still have all my social media accounts no one runs the caller daddy account or my account and I just read all these DMS of someone struggling with a narcissistic parent and immediately I'm like let's get Dr ramani on let's have her come on let's talk about how to survive a narcissistic relationship like it Ebbs and flows I it's I would love to be like I have this perfect structure I am eyeballing it because I also am a consumer and I'm like what am I interested in because I'm so I love being

in tune with my audience that I'm able to be like I know what they want because I want it too it's an ebbing and flowing relationship with respect there's always going to be haters there's always going to be people that want me to fail but I do think specifically this last year I've come really into my own of like I want to make amazing content for the people that want to listen and if you don't want to listen you don't have have to listen but I always do say give it a chance because you will

be surprised at the new caller Daddy it's different and I'm really proud of it because I put a lot of work into it and you should be I personally I'm a fan and I've I've loved the evolution of it I've watched a ton of the interviews I mean for me I couldn't agree with you more that whoever sits in front of me whether they're a celebrity whether they're not whether they're a scientist a doctor or a host you know whatever they may be like I just want to create exactly what you said like we're so

aligned on that like create a safe space where people can feel they can be themselves and they're not being forced to be someone and they're not being forced to be the one version that we see but I think what I really took away from what you're saying is that even though you're right I know what you're saying that there's no weekly structure it's not like you're trying to figure out like oh we're gonna do this and that actually when you hear you explain when I just heard you explain how sex and mental health are so

interconnected that is very coherent and that's very cohesive so even if there isn't a plan every week if you're talking to all that kind of stuff that makes a lot of sense yeah and it's like no one would ever know that or think about that and this is what I think we think so shallow now right like everything's a shallow thought and when I say shallow I don't mean the subject matter I mean how deeply we consider an idea so Alex has changed what she talks about on her podcast slightly right she's still she's still

uh doing the sex part because she's still talking about those things but she's also talking about mental health and therapy and whatever she wants to talk about that's a shallow thought oh she's just spotify's told her to do that she can't talk about sex anymore because whatever right like whatever whatever it is I don't know what it is literally making stuff up but then when you take that thought deeper you go okay wait when I actually listen to Alex explain it she's like I should be willing to do about mental health and sex because they're

so interconnected I should be able to talk about mental health then anything in my life because it's so interconnected and I I feel it I just love that description like I'm just holding on to that that's my biggest takeaway from what you said because I think it's unhealthy mentally emotionally spiritually psychologically for us to think that any subject matter is separate from from any other in The Human Experience I agree and I feel like especially with sex and having been a woman and trying to now like I'm not trying to get away from it I'm

just trying to prove like there's other things about me how what a concept and um that respect has been something that I keep pushing up against of like it almost I think at first I'll be honest made me want to go so far away from it because it's what everyone just wanted to pigeonhole me as and I feel like especially with the season two that's gonna come out of call her daddy um at the end of September into October like you're going to see a shift because I feel like when I was in my 20s

I kind of mentioned this earlier your everyone's self involved we're just trying to understand like I remember getting out of college being so miserable I hated my job I hated my life I was like what am I doing with my life you're just trying to quite literally survive and where I'm at now in my life at 28. I just turned 28 and I feel I genuinely have a different interest for what is happening in the world like I know this may not be the most relatable thing but like I have one of the biggest platforms

specifically well I know I just found out my show is the number one biggest listen to show for women on in the world for a podcast all I think when I hear that that's great let's frame it my mom may frame it responsibility that's what I take from that how am I not going to start talking about deeper topics and things that are genuinely going to affect generations to come having such a big platform I feel a sense of responsibility of what am I doing open my eyes start reading the news like I just feel

there's a different level that I'm taking this show to and it's not to become preachy and it's not to become political and it's not to become in your face it's going to have that same genuine nature color that he has always had I am coming to them just having a conversation I want both sides to participate I want people to feel so comfortable I'm not asking you anything I'm just wanting people to listen and to maybe have a thought-provoking conversation that could potentially change your mind or strengthen your view on something I feel like in

a world of such snap judgment because of social media people are inclined to make decisions so quickly based off of a headline or a photo or or whatever it is or gossip and I I like how what I want to do with caller daddy is wouldn't you feel so much better if you could make your decision with a more 360 POV on something and that is what podcasting does long form sit Downs get to know someone get to understand a topic an issue an argument and then make your judgment because that is amazing if you

leave being like I have the same opinion amazing but now don't you feel better that you have a bit more of an educated opinion rather than a snap judgment or most times what people do when they listen to caller daddy is okay I admit I was judging them I yeah my mind changed I just had someone on and all of the DMS were oh I don't know if I really thought I liked them anymore and now I'm obsessed again because I forgot what they went through in their life and I was completely unattached to the

empathy level because all I see is social media posts so I hope people feel that and again I'm not trying to be this like preachy I don't know what I'm doing half the time you know but I just feel a sense of responsibility and I hope that my audience can feel like it's just a journey because what else are we doing here I want everyone to have fun we want to have laughs we're going to continue to have that and especially being a woman right now it's like if I don't speak up I'm not doing

my job and I won't be able to sleep at night knowing that I didn't do something that actually was just right in front of me that I could have done and I have such a platform and so I'm sure everyone can know what I'm kind of talking about but um yeah vote okay yeah yeah no I mean personally hearing that I and you don't need to hear this from me and I'm only saying it because I genuinely mean it and for whatever it's worth it's like I love that like I personally appreciate that so much

because I only went out to start building a platform in the desire to serve like we only I only started this journey hoping that we'd be able to help people uh it never came from anything else it started in that place and it's still in that place today and when I hear someone who's like hey I was 22 and now I'm growing up and this is life and I like look at that I go I love people who do that and you know a lot of people that I work with in my in my coaching

practice it's like that's where there are like they became famous through music or they became famous through movies so they became famous through whatever and now they're having that same journey in their life where they go Jay I have like hundreds of millions of people who listen to me and they care about what I have to say I don't want to be the person who just has a great home business and life I I want to do more than that and to me I think when people who have the opportunity to say that say that

and then go follow it up that's when the world starts becoming a better place it does and I I think it is really it's a it's a hard concept especially when you have a podcast I don't see all these people right you know when when I'm told oh your your podcast is also the biggest podcast for Millennials in gen Z I'm like so that is an audience that has the opportunity to quite literally change the world yeah what am I doing yeah and it doesn't need to be every episode I I just think there's a

different level of awareness I have right now and I'm I don't have it figured out I I am not perfect by any means I definitely present a certain way on social media for my business but like I'm I'm what I'm trying to do is just take my education public and just use this platform and not be better than anyone just genuinely be like I'm learning I literally said to my team and I was like I will publicly say this like a couple years ago I remember when I got out of college I had to call

my dad and be like I don't know how to like how am I gonna vote dad like what I'm in Boston I'm from Pennsylvania where am I registered like I don't even know how to vote and I am not ashamed to say that I think people feel so overwhelmed with certain things in life of college does not prepare us for a lot right and there's a lot that we're like what are we doing and I think when you have people on platforms that are acting like you don't know what you're doing it makes you feel

ashamed it makes you feel insecure and then you just don't do anything so I think call her daddy also this season is really trying to just make it ingestible for everyone of like I'm with you guys I am also still like a couple years ago my dad was helping me on Turbo Tax okay I didn't know what I was doing but I'm learning and I hope that it's just I hope that people appreciate me just trying to make a little bit of a change because there's a lot of power in podcasting and in these really

intimate conversations that's the best part about podcasting it is such an intimate relationship that we have with with our listeners and I don't take it for granted so there you go no you're spot on like I think we genuinely close off when we think we're surrounded by a community of people who know it all's or and and I think that's when people start to lie that's when people start to hide like I think everyone everyone like Millennials and gen Z everyone right now feels the pressure to know how to be an investor like because investing

is the cool thing right and it's like if you don't know how to buy an nft if you don't you know if you didn't know how to buy crypto when it was like booming and everyone's like talking big it was like if you didn't know how to do those things it was like who are you you can't be cool if you don't know if you don't know how to vote like oh well then you don't care or all of these things and it's like I don't think any of those things were ever explained to anyone

anyone and we're just listening to One random 30 second Tick Tock and being like Oh my God I need to buy that I need to do this and I'm like I fully believe I fully agree with what you're saying like yeah social media has definitely made us all feel a little bit like we're behind like what am I missing or I don't oh I'm not in on that or I'm feeling excluded or maybe I'm not cool enough I don't look a certain way I don't know how to do something and it's like that's what I've

tried to say take a little step back from social media recently and really focus on like I have the same three best friends since I was six years old I have my family I have my relationship I have my amazing team now caller daddy comprised of all women they're amazing I feel so for everyone's always like what's the best thing that came from your Spotify deal and I was like that I can now hire a team of these amazing people but I do feel like you have to also everything's with a grain of salt on

social media try to also just be more present like I found myself the other month on my phone on Tick Tock scrolling I'm by myself there's a beautiful sunset at my new house and I'm scrolling on Tick Tock and I for a minute had this moment of like hold on I'm watching a random girl in her bedroom doing whatever she's doing and I don't know her and I'm sitting on my couch lovely woman whoever she is wasting my time watching someone that I don't know and this is not changing my life go outside Alex go

watch the sunset go take my dog on a walk be present because it gives me anxiety I realize when I don't feel good enough I don't feel pretty enough I don't feel like I'm fitting the body standard and then I start to spiral and it's like why are we doing this to ourselves if we know that it's not helping us let's I'm just trying to be a little bit more in the moment with my thoughts of okay so step back you can take it out of your hand and put it down and I know it's

quite literally doctors are comparing it to an addiction so that's also something that's helped me with my mental health recently is like really putting boundaries on social media what are some of the new habits of this new Alex and values of this new Alex that are really becoming integrated into your life like you just said like learning about what's happening in the world like being well informed educating yourself taking that online obviously therapy we've talked about like what are some of the I guess the smaller habits that you've developed that's one of them and that's

a beautiful one I always joked I'm like I'm a vowel I never say this word again I in the beginning of call her daddy and shortly kind of in the pandemic went down a spiral of like reading Reddit pages about myself and awful awful things about myself and I was crushed like I said earlier being bullied I am a full people pleaser I want everyone to like me if I see that one comment I'm like and then it's going to affect my content the next week and I'm going to have a Freudian slip and somehow

talk about something that I saw in the comment I'm trying to like oh my God it was about like a year or so ago sat down I think it was it was with my therapist and I said I am never going to open this app again and if I do I'm hurting call her daddy and I almost got it helped me take it out of myself of like because I was it was affecting my content and and I I stopped looking at these people that I remember I always used to also be like they're just

hurting in their own life and we can talk about why people are trolls on the internet for hours but it's not my problem I I need to drown that out whatever those people are going through why ever they hate me I know I'm a good person I know what I'm trying to do so I stopped reading that about a year ago and my life I feel like a different human being I am taking notes from people that truly care about me and I'm someone that my uh producer was like it's interesting you love a note

I love a note I love someone to tell me when I'm doing something wrong what I'm doing wrong I love a note and so I I don't surround myself with yes people I'm very I came to LA and I had to make a decision of you know who I wanted to hang out with what I wanted to do and like I am sticking to the people that I have known my whole life I am not not open to meeting new friends I have made new friends in LA but I'm very specific about who I share

my time with and I think that is totally fair to say and I think sometimes people like oh this is that or oh you don't have as many friends I am taking care of my mental health by making sure the people that I'm surrounded with aren't yes people because they're like oh we want to come and hang out in Alex's cool house with her cool job it's people that are like check yourself what's up like how are you doing and I could do the same to them and so I have made efforts to make sure

who I'm around not only they they don't even make me feel good it's it's that they're real with me and they treat me if all this was gone tomorrow I know those people are gonna still be there and I think with social media I've kind of just I've really gone through periods where my I felt like my whole existence was immersed and defiant or defined by social media and literally just through meditating being alone with my thoughts going through therapy of when you actually dissect does something make you feel bad yes so why are you

doing it it's so simple and it is so hard but the more that I train my brain it's really helped me and I think when I go through really awful times on social media if people are coming at me if I get the mean comments this is something that keeps me kind of grounded is I always get through something in the moment when you are going through something it is awful and it can be heart-wrenching it can you can feel it physically you can feel alone you can feel scared whatever feeling comes when something bad

is happening in your life but you you get through it and when you get through it you look back and you're always like oh I wish I could have told myself like stop stressing stop overthinking stop so what I've had to do is in the moments of crisis when I'm freaking out having a panic attack anxiety I'm like okay hold on in two days this will be over let's go on a walk let's take a breath let's call people I love let's talk to my mom let's call my therapist let's like take all of the

stuff that's happening in my head and just calm pause connect with people that love me and get out of your kind of psychosis that's happening in your brain you're going over and over I always think about like I always get through it I've had so many moments where I'm freaking out I always get through it I always so look at the other side and it's I don't know it's easier said than done again but like it helps me be like I'm gonna be there in a couple days or hours so like this it's not as

bad as it feels um I don't know that makes any sense yeah it does it does I think what you're describing is like everything is simply a pattern of thought right it's just a pattern of thoughts and the current pattern of thoughts we all have are not serving us they're not helping us they're not improving our lives and the hard part is knowing which thoughts to change and then how to change them and so the tools you just gave us were really simple ways and practical ways that anyone can start changing their thoughts and if

I literally if we just understood that that simply by changing your thoughts you can transform every human experience in the world whether it's sitting in a cold plunge and you're just changing your thoughts whether it's you know doing a hike in the morning whether it's just getting to the gym right like whatever it is it's just changing your thoughts and it's beautiful to hear you figure that out and and work through that also journaling I've had when I go through really hard times I always Journal during and after and then when I'm going through a

crisis again I'll read the after and even the during and I'm like I was spirally look where I am now I'm sitting on the beach like what I'm or I'm driving to work everything's okay we get through I have gone through people dying and it's like it is the worst it is the worst but you have to find a way to keep going you have to find the positive right and and um I have a lot of friends connected through trauma of things that happen in our childhood and it's like we I had my two

best girlfriends come and visit me and they were with me for a week and we were just talking about life how am I going to keep going but then you remember the moment after that where you're laughing on the beach with your friend and you're like imagine if I didn't keep going I wouldn't have this beautiful moment with these people and so it's like always trying to look to the other side and if you can get there you can take that breath and be like thank God I I hung in there yeah what's a belief

that you think you've had about yourself that you think LED you down the wrong path like is there a specific belief that you once had about yourself that you think kind of went the other way like you just said sometimes you have to push through right sometimes we carry a belief about ourselves and we end up somewhere we don't want to be I think because of things that have happened publicly and there's so many things that have happened publicly for me in my career I would say it really hurts me when people assume I'm a

bad friend my entire life that has been the one thing I have felt I'm proud of myself for truly like my friendships are so valuable to me and I take such pride in those relationships and when you have public things and it happens to happen with a woman it's like the person that comes out on top is the villain and then the person that didn't is the victim and I'm not like going at anyone saying that they're calling themselves a victim I'm just saying that's how the public perceives it and so as a woman it

upsets me and I would find myself really struggling at times being like I know I'm a great friend like I had a friend recently say to me because she's going through something and almost like through the tools of my show and therapy she mentioned to me she was like I have never I think I've never felt you being a better friend than In This Moment Like I can't thank you for how much you're taking on for me and I was like I'm in a good place right now like it's all I can picture doing is

is helping a friend and being there for someone because you've been there for me when I I've been at the absolute bottom that's how friendship works right and I think friendships are so beautiful because you have to choose to keep it moving keep it strong a romantic relationship it's there you're together all the time friendship that's hard my friends live across the country my three best friends do not live in Los Angeles California and it is a constant effort and they know me just as much as I know them and we have been through so

much together but I think that kind of ate at me and I'm sure you've had it of like there's nothing worse than when someone believes something about you that you're like oh like I want to prove it's that's not true and I have so many things that could prove that that's not true but I've had to work on in therapy of like I can't please everyone and through do my friends know I'm a good friend that's all that matters the internet thinking I'm this or that like if you like my show you're gonna listen but

you're not listening because I'm a good friend so it's like I need to prioritize knowing who I am knowing how deeply I feel for these people that I I consider family that's all that matters and I don't need to prove that but I definitely went down moments of like oh my God am I trying to talk about this in an episode and prove it's like Alex you if if I tried to whack em all everything people think about me I'm not gonna get done interviews I'll be just doing solo episodes for the rest of my

career so that was something that was kind of hard yeah and there'd still be something about your explanation that wouldn't be enough yeah and yeah I found that I mean I was asked in a podcast a few years ago someone asked me the question uh what's something you used to value that you don't value anymore and it was a really great question and we have the video of it I'm like sitting there thinking about it and you can tell it's you know when you ask a question and you actually have to think rather than like

you've got a million things to say and I said being understood I was like I just don't value being understood anymore because it's just it killed me that desire I had and I get that people it's like for years I just wanted people to know I was a good person and that I had pure intentions and I was trying to serve the world and I was and I was like you know what No One's Gonna Give me the benefit of the doubt no one cares and at the end of the day I have to lose

that desire to be misunderstood I'm sorry to be understood because most people are going to misunderstand me and that's okay that is like freed me that is so beautiful because I relate to that deeply and I love that you're saying that because being understood is so overrated and exhausting because who you're mostly trying now in the age of social media to be understood by is people you don't even know yeah and what about the people you do know how much time are you putting are we it was a measure for me of am I putting

more effort into the people I don't know than the people I do know that's check your yourself because I've done that to myself and I love that you said that because it when you get to that point it is so freeing because you're like I'm me I don't need if I say something people take the wrong way I don't need to not be like oh my God I promise I'm a good person no you either know or you don't and I'm not gonna run around and chase people and try to convince people of my character

I go to sleep at night I know I'm a good daughter a good partner and a good friend and I know I am not perfect by any means but I am trying every day through therapy through just looking inward a lot and trying to be with my thoughts and being more present with the uncomfortable silent moments trying to just be a better person and I think it sounds corny even when I say it out loud but like what else are we here to do you know what I mean like do you are you good with

the people you love and who love you that's kind of all that matters and the rest is noise and we have huge platforms and it's so great but if all of it ended tomorrow I would be okay yeah and I don't think I could have said that a couple years ago and I don't want it to end I love you all but it is it's a good feeling because that then I can really put all of me into the podcast because it's like I'm gonna be me and I'm gonna do me until I don't want

to do it anymore and no one can tell me otherwise you know what I mean so it's it's kind of a freeing feeling yeah and here's what we know we know that the people that do listen to us every week they do know us like I feel so seed heard and understood by my community that listens to me here and whether they listen to the solos or these guest episodes like I know they know me they understand me and I always say that if you see me on the streets please come and say hello because

we can have a great conversation but at the same time as that one thing I do know is that I read a study that said you have to spend 200 hours with someone to consider to know them deeply and I started thinking about who in the world have I spent 200 hours with whoa and I started to realize it wasn't that many people and that wasn't something that made me sad it just made me value those people so much more so my best my best friend who's my best man at my wedding I've known him

for 18 years and he I still talk to him three or four times a week I don't know where I find the time I don't know where he finds the time but every car Journey whatever I'm doing around La I'll call it he's in London London so he had an eight hour time difference too and he always picks up we always find a way to connect and we still our friendships got better since I left England and so all my best friends are in London because that's where I grew up my family's in London my

wife's family's in London so for us like I I totally hear what you're saying that then statement you made that really resonated with me today on off of what I said was that being understood as overrated and it's so true because I would say that I'm still trying to understand even the people I've spent 200 hours with so how am I expecting someone who met me once for two minutes absolutely to understand 200 hour version of me I would hope not I hope I'm complex enough I really love that and I I think it's um

I think that I always say to anyone and especially in 20s 30s when you're out of college it is so so depleting at times because you are stripped of that immediate Comfort friends in you know proximity wise and you're immediately all of a sudden you're across the country and your friends across it and you're like I don't have friends and it's a really isolating and lonely time but I would start with do you have one person do you have one person that you can call that's really all that matters and of course we want friend

groups we want friendships we want connections um we want to go to parties guys come on but you but you have to just start slow with yourselves and and I think a lot of times in your 20s it's a you almost get dismembered and you have to build yourself back up and we're really hard on ourselves with those friendships it's so much easier said than done but um it is a great reward when you can maintain those because it's they're beautiful and like I said you're not having sex with these people hopefully so your friends

are just there because they love you hopefully um gets messy don't do it guys but no it's a really it's a really powerful relationship yeah we've talked about friendships and I want to talk about relationships a bit because it's it's a big thing here on on purpose and I'm asking this because for me and this is what we do right and this is why I'm very clear on this and this is one of the best skill I learned from training to become a coach was to not project my intentions onto other people's actions so what

we often do is when we see someone who does the same thing as us we assume they did it because of the same reason as us so if you see someone lied to someone if you're someone who would lie to someone because you don't want to upset someone's feelings you're like oh they lied to them because they don't want to upset someone's realings yeah but if you're someone who didn't do something because you were jealous of something when someone doesn't do that same thing you're like oh that's because they're jealous of them so we project

our intentions onto other people's actions so interesting and so I'm I'm projecting now and so I'm I'm being very honest and open about it my wife and I have been together for 10 years long before I my public life and we got married six years ago and I started creating content online around the same time as we got married we'd already been together for four years and I've been creating offline content for 10 years before I started doing online content so I did events and I spoke and did seminars and workshops and coaching and all

this stuff anyway for the first three years of my content life no one knew I was married uh it wasn't that I didn't talk about it it's that I used to make four minute videos on Facebook and YouTube and those four minute videos were based on ideas long form content hadn't really taken off and I didn't really feel to post selfies with me and my wife because I was gaining traction from talking about philosophy and psychology and ideas that I cared about and we just got married too and it was all new to us it

was like all of a sudden like when I would post that I was at a restaurant people would turn up and things like then so I was very protective of my mom my sister my wife and just everyone in my life and then my first ever podcast episode was me interviewing my wife and us talking about how we met and our journey and everything else that came with that and that was in 2019 when we talked about it I am so grateful that I didn't do it before then because it gave my wife time to

a acclimatize to the new life we'd created it gave her a sense of stability in what we were doing and where we're going and it helped me deal with what I needed to deal with in this journey it wasn't something I would even say I was fully conscious of I guess my question to you is do you think having a relationship that you're open about but that is private consciously improves the quality of relationship you can build I'm projecting that I think it's healthy but you don't have to buy into my projections you know what

I'm gonna buy in okay um I I do I definitely it's interesting because when I met my boyfriend I had already podcasted about him before our first date and he I remember podcasting I was in Los Angeles and we were going to a dinner and I'm podcasting about my wants and my needs and all the things that I'm expecting for this date to go this I had never met this man in my life um classic Alex just going for it for the podcast Gotta Give the daddy game what they want and I show up to

the date and halfway through I'm like oh you're gonna be on next week's episode and he's a very private person and he was like what and I was like it's gonna be so good and then I'm gonna go back and record whatever happens at the end of the day and he was like so shocked I will say I think he thought it was quite Charming I love how men are always like oh I don't want to be on they love being on um but with him it was interesting because I I went all the way

in and I started talking about him from the beginning and then I had to pull it back because I realized oh well this is a real relationship and I have so much respect for him and he's in the um entertainment industry um but he's private and he he in a great way this is how I knew he was the one he never said don't talk about me but he asked that we just have conversations about it and just keep talking about it and I've had past relationships where it was like f your show I don't

care and he is such a respect for my craft that he recognizes that is kind of what you do for a living and your life is your living um but I did start to pull back and I know it's not fun to hear but my relationship couldn't be better because of it all of a sudden he didn't have to wake up in the morning and press play and listen to what I said and and we weren't um getting DMS about our relationship and it really allowed us to just be present of hey do we like

each other yeah I I've said to people I and I'm not judging people that post on social media with their partner I I always just like to check myself and then I just tell people what I'm doing and if you want to you know do it too but it's like there's some relationships I worry are you just together still because the public loves you and that is not healthy and I think that with social media people can become addicted to the concept of perfect relationship and what it looks like what is it like behind closed

doors I am so fortunate that I don't have that with my partner I'm with him because I love him and I love our relationship and none of it is contingent upon either of our jobs so that's been very healthy was it hard yeah of course there's great content in there and occasionally I will share um but I I told my listeners one rule that I implemented with my partner was if we have an argument or a fight or a disagreement or whatever and it's an open wound at the time for the relationship I made the

mistake once of going and talking about it on the podcast too soon that we hadn't even healed and my partner is so mature that he was like I love you so much but I think we need boundaries because hearing that is not fun and it almost made it worse for me because we haven't resolved it and so now I have this like I have a boundary where it's like a couple months later I can totally talk about it because he was like some of our arguments are great for couples to think about and talk about

um they're very relatable but I think in the moment it's always good to just put my relationship first and it doesn't mean I'm not putting the show first it's just having a good set boundary that I didn't have before and I'm really really happy I've done it yeah I've lived hearing today about how many different boundaries you put into different areas in your life yeah winning a boundary setting like no but it's so important because I think the problem is that we think of life as either or and life is more boundaries and layers and

levels and it's like we think I'm either close to this person or I'm not and I'm like no you're closer to this person than this person it's not that you're close or not and I think when you start looking at life as degrees and you know you see a little Ripple and different degrees versus like yes or no absolutely and I think the concept of again this is all for public consumption yeah posting your partner for people in my case that don't I don't know right and even a lot of people even if you have

a thousand followers on Instagram do you have a thousand friends absolutely not Becky okay you do not have a thousand friends so I always am also just like what is the motive behind posting your partner is it to get validation that you're not getting in the relationship is it to seek approval is it to show off something that you're proud of but well if you were super you know confident like would you need that exterior validation right and again I'm not saying not to post your partner it's really just I think with social media we've

been so quick to just throw stuff up about our life and it's like well why are you doing that who was that for why do you feel the need to show people that you don't even know how your relationship is going and write these long captions about it I totally get trying to connect with people um but there is a level that I started to find of like I think I'm just doing this because this is like is helping content it's not good for my relationship I need to pull back yeah and I love that

who it's for question because I do that exercise with myself when I post stuff like I post certain things and I know no one cares but I really care about it like it's like it's a big deal for me or whatever and then I'll post and I'll always tell it to him I'll be like do not look at the likes do not look at the comments I know it's gonna do terribly but it's really important to me and I want it to be out there because to me that's really really you know powerful and and

obviously we we only put out things that we think are powerful of course but there are certain things that I know no one cares about about for me and at the same time I think for me what I was getting at was that three years of being married for me and my wife gave us a sense of getting to know each other in that way without having to deal with any opinions any like right now all we ever get when we post anything is just you guys like brother and sister and I'm like that's like

that's not what I would have wanted to hear when we just got married so I'm very happy that we didn't because that's all we ever get and so I'm like all right this is this is great like so that's the thing you're never gonna it's real there's always gonna be the negative and so that's what also I'm I'm really protective of it because I'm like I'm so happy he's so happy our families love each other we're doing good we are by no means a perfect couple but I have no interest right now in opening that

up for public consumption to just have an opinion yeah I don't need it I want to know am I in this because I like him that's it yeah great stick with it last question on relationships I think a lot of people ask like you know what do you look for in someone I think for me it's the opposite way around like what do you think you want someone to bring out in you that you see as a healthy relationship like what are you happy being when you're in a good place I'm a lot I'm self-aware

enough to know I'm a lot and really when I say I'm a lot I think my job is a lot right and I I am so passionate like I've said I've been doing this since I was so young I would be making these videos no one was seeing them I was acting like they were going to be up for an Academy Award no one was my parents were barely watching them do you still have them oh they're awful yes it's shocking they're like we're gonna play it one day at your wedding like so I'm not

getting married then um but the point is is I I have always felt like what I'm doing and my passion is so a part of me and I need a partner that is going to support me especially in a heterosexual relationship can a man be okay with I'm okay if I'm the breadwinner it's not the case my relationship were pretty equal but it's like I need to be able to be myself and I need my partner to not be intimidated by My Success not try to hold me down let me be me and you be

you and if we come together we make each other better amazing but I've had relationships with men where they were extremely intimidated by my success and it was constantly trying to push me down um language that was semi-abusive of trying to make me feel less than and it was really toxic and it affected me and now being in a healthy relationship with someone that is like you are incredible I support you is like my number one cheerleader that to me is the hottest thing that someone can do and I'm so attracted to my partner because

of that I also think someone that is so honest my partner is so honest with me sometimes I'm like oh my God it's like I'm not used to the honesty and I really respect that because I am a noble person and like what's up what's going on and to meet my match kind of with that we do no dance arounds like it is just like what is up and I know some people don't like that you need a little like cushion I am like hit me where it hurts let's get this over with so I

think those two things the honesty um and also just allowing me to be who I am and I know it sounds pretty straightforward but a lot of people try to change each other you're laughing what did I say really I really no no yeah I'm laughing because you literally there's something you said that just like it just totally reminded me of some this weekend so anyway but carry on yeah I'll tell you okay the point is is you I've learned in relationships like you talked about projection there's so much projection if you don't work on

yourself and whatever your form of therapy for yourself is if you don't know who you are you're gonna go into a relationship and quite literally look for the things you want out of that person and you're gonna be put unrealistic expectations onto this person and you don't even know if you actually like them because you're just trying to get what you want it's like wait you don't even like the homie like get out of here like and so I think stripping it down to do you like them as who they are as a human being

and not honestly also for how they make you feel all the time do you like them as an individual and do you two match up of course you want them to make you feel good but I think sometimes we project our wants and our needs and everything onto a person it's like hold on work on your own yeah and then come back and see if you like the person because a lot of times the person you're with is just fulfilling something that's an insecurity of yours if you feel that insecurity would you still need to

be with that person absolutely absolutely therapy session 101 okay no I love it I love it you remind so I was doing something important last week and my wife is doing something important as in being at a wedding I was gonna open this entire episode with so how was the wedding I miss our interview I will tell you that simply I will tell you about it offline I will tell you very offline but I Was preparing for something last week and my wife is that person to me so I know that and I have an

amazing team who's very honest with me for sure like I definitely like we literally were look we look at the head shots for like my book coming out next year and so the team was like look and we were like no no no like with I'm doing it with my team and it's always the most painfully thing I'm like looking at your own face and all yeah and anyway but my wife like takes it to another level so she's like all right do your speech in front of me so I'm like all right I'm gonna

do it and and I'd set myself up for it every time because I know she's gonna give me really good feedback but my male ego can't take it so I'll do it and then she'll be like oh yeah but this part didn't make sense I'm like no but this is why I did it that way this is like but I'm telling you as a viewer and you're not gonna be able to explain to everyone why you said Charlie and I'm getting and I guess to be defensive and then she's like but say it like this

and I'm like no but the way you just said it didn't sound good anyway and it's like I get so defensive but she's and then I took all of it back and I did it exactly that way that is no that is Iconic also my boyfriend did that he had a speech he had to do at his brother's wedding and we were upstairs in the room and he's practicing he's pacing he's freaking out and I'm like it's coming off weird when you say it like that it's not hitting you're trying to be funny you're not

funny okay he's like oh okay and I was trying to give constructive feedback and he was freaking out and he's like losing his mind and I'm like sit down let me rewrite it for you I'm the comedian the relationship let's move forward and it was funny though because he was really freaking out but then at the end of the day he's like okay I trust you yeah exactly you got to do a little push and pull and then you're like okay I trust you yeah and then there's some stuff that I just hide from her

in the practice because I know I I want to do it anyway and so then I don't show her that bit and she was like oh that bit was really good I'm like see if I showed it to you you would have thought it was good so but the constructive criticism was good added your little flare flare and it all went well yeah okay exactly exactly uh Alex we and every on purpose episode with uh two now two you're the first person ever do this okay uh so we have our Fast Five but we also

have our new segment which very aptly is called the many sides of you one word um we're still figuring out the name we're getting there we're getting there um but we're gonna do this so what this is is you're gonna give a word for every one of these things just one word oh God and it's all about you oh God so are you ready I don't know if I like that okay all right what is a word or phrase to describe what someone would say about you when they meet you for the first time I

would say warm and trustworthy which is really weird oh I forgot you said warm in the beginning yeah yeah I agree I honestly agree yeah yeah I've had a lot of people that just I think again on social media you think one thing of me and then you meet me and you're like oh wait like she's I had a waitress I met this past week and she DM me after I was like I didn't think you'd be that nice I'm like guys I'm I'm not a scary person but I I do think I have um

a warmth that makes people feel really comfortable yeah I believe I agree okay uh what is the word someone that knows you very well would use to describe your phrase ooh determined sometimes scary I I think my boyfriend and my parents are like oh God here she goes like I'm like I'm gonna finish this and it's gonna be the best and they're like okay it just got out of her way here she goes like very determined I love that uh what is a word or phrase you would you use to describe yourself loyal and passionate

those two things like resonate so much with me and into completely different ways but a part of who I am truly is my craft and I'm so passionate about it even if I made no money on it tomorrow I would go back I would still be making content and I'm also passionate about anything I'm doing in my life I have to be passionate about my family my relationships my friends and loyalty to me is number one I respect anyone that's loyal and to me it's like the number one thing on the list of something in

a relationship that I look for and I take pride in being loyal I love that that's beautiful I love those qualities thank you easier than asking you what your values are I like it uh yeah sure what is the word that maybe someone who who doesn't like you would say about you how would they describe you um cocky damn right damn right You Gotta Be You Gotta Be and the last one what is the word or phrase you're trying to embody something that you're working on right now intentional I I really am trying to in

every aspect of my life always ask what is the objective try to be more intentional about things because I think when you do things with care everything is better people feel better about it you feel better and also it just there's a different radiating effect when you're intentional about things so whether it's in my relationships or my craft like I'm very trying to be intentional especially this year I love that that's a great word this is a good game that's great you did good you did good all right these These are the final five before

we do that I want to ask you Alex like was there anything that you shared that you oh sorry anything you haven't shared today that you really wanted to share or something you wanted to talk about and I I mean I'm asking this online offline as just to honor you in terms of if there's something that we've missed or do you want do you want to dive more into like and I and I'm happy to because I could talk to you for hours I have no time limit I'm happy to dive into you with like

talking more about the entrepreneurship side and the cross side and the business side I mean I think in a really cool way I didn't I didn't know where this was going to go today and I'm really happy I I hope that who I am behind the camera kind of came out today and I guess I would just say to anyone listening and this is not like a plug for my show it's more like I really I think this year I've tried to start especially when I'm sitting down with people to give people the benefit of

the Dow and a chance to hear even if I have misconceptions about someone and so I just hope anyone listening if you maybe had a judgment about call her Daddy back in the past or of me I ask just to be open-minded and and kind of just give it another chance because one I think everyone deserves that and two I I really am proud of what I'm doing and I'm proud of the show and the direction it's taken not to say that I'm not proud of the past but I I think people would be surprised

at where it's gone and how much it's grown and I just would ask for a chance and give it a listen and um yeah that's it I love that I love that and and you're doing it and and honestly for like I keep saying you don't need it from me but whatever it's worth it's like I just love watching people grow and try new things and take risks and like do something that's fresh and new and then everything you said about impact and responsibility and even the interviews you have done like for me it's it's

beautiful to watch that and so you know congrats not on this external success of course on that but more on like doing the hard thing right like that's what's more interesting to me and I think as a Creator and as a host it's like doing the hard thing it's like to keep feeding whatever everything on everyone wants is easy but to actually switch and say I've changed I've grown I've evolved and this is where I'm going now that that and that's where so many people at 50 60 70 years old feel so empty because for

the last 25 years they just did what other people wanted them to do totally and it's like you gotta go for it I just don't want to be in that position no anyone listening if you've wanted to do something you got to go for it because we have literally no idea how much time we have here and that's what I'm doing with this especially the season I'm like oh I'm going for it I believe in something I'm gonna go for it and I will I'll handle whatever comes with that yeah I love that all right

Alex I've got five questions left for you okay these are the first five okay uh what is okay Alex Cooper these you're fast five uh question number one what is the best advice you've ever received oh this is so generic but it's so true it's for my mother be yourself in a world of people trying to tell you what to be what to do be yourself know yourself and the journey of knowing yourself is is going to be just as long if you're going to know yourself or you're going to go with what people want

you to be be yourself it's so much for more rewarding at the end of the day I love it all right second question what is the worst advice you've ever received um be quiet where would that have gotten me guys I mean a microphone myself here we go don't be quiet speak your mind go for what you want and bulldoze through doors question number three what position did you play in soccer Center Midfield okay all right that's cool I was sent to attack in Midfield so that's great also sometimes I would go on the flanks

yeah um basically my role for anyone who doesn't know soccer my position would let Alex's role do all the running yeah thanks thanks a lot yep I love to run yeah I I have to I don't know if you've been I I recently invested uh in Angel City FC and so I would love to tell you today it would be so fun because I I grew up obviously wanting to play soccer professionally and I was never good enough uh but my my sister loves soccer too and she played and I was just like if I

ever have a daughter or I was like I want her to have the opportunity so that's right that's a good sport yes and they're so good so they're fun to watch so we have to figure that out thank you uh question number four uh how would you describe your current purpose my current purpose is to use my platform to hopefully Empower and unite women also underrepresented communities and try to elicit change there's a lot we gotta do right now and specifically with women's rights and so I would say my purpose is trying to use my

platform to excite people for change not scare them this is an exciting time it is a great time to have a vagina we have to look at it that way or we're only going to regress and keep getting pushed back words by men so it's like let's use our vaginas let's vote with our vaginas this year okay I don't think anyone's probably said vagina as many times on your podcast um definitely it's too it's to inspire and bring people with me on this journey of educating myself and taking my education public love that and I'm

with you whatever whatever help I can give uh Fifth and final question if you could create one law that everyone in the world had to follow what would it be abortions are legal well said that's a real law thank you that's a real law now let's put it back where it was yeah amazing I love it Alex Cooper everyone thank you so much for having me oh no thank you that was without a doubt I think the most fun I've ever had that was so much fun that was um unbelievable I am honored to have

been here thank you for giving me the time and the space and your platform this is amazing no I am so grateful honestly that was smart funny intellectual thoughtful deep I mean it was it was every emotion I want to feel on any given day and yes you are just an absolute I don't know what the right word is like you're a Maverick like you know it's just it's it's amazing all sort of I love witnessing High performing people in this way and like watching you I'm like this person's such a pro like just unbelievable

like just phenomenal it's so beautiful yeah it's amazing so thank you if you want even more videos just like this one make sure you subscribe and click on the boxes over here I'm also excited to let you know that you can now get my book think like a monk from think like a monkbook.com check Below in the description to make sure you order today