Lord Hanuman - The Story They Don't Teach Us | Ramayana Part 3 With Yashodeep Deodhar | TRS

I think this is the episode that many Hanuman BS especially were looking forward to when it comes to sanatan DH any daty with the face of an animal they're closer to Earthly Realms and they come to help you much quicker out of everyone if there's anyone who can do this it is Shri Hanuman wow when I say Hanuman G what are you visualizing when it comes to the face a forest dweller who puts on some type of a face mask to look like a monkey something that they could take off and also lot of stories

related to the tail so they also wore a tail the fierce love that Hanuman G felt for Shri is that mentioned up to this point remember he gave his ring to Hanuman in fact he said to lakman anyone who has an ambassador like that is a very fortunate King is there anything written about his emotional state of mind he was at the lowest point when he okay the moment Hanan appears in the text the energy of your own mind changes like as we are speaking right now the energy of the room is so different is

your understanding of Hanuman G also evolving the beauty of valmiki's poetry is such we know he went swimming but the image left in our mind is of Hanan flying through the sky is there anything that's said about his increase in size if it was real would he need to fly or Swim he could have stepped across go bumps nothing is said about sitam at this point her reality the rakasi surrounding satha threatened her very clearly we are going to cut you up and they were discussing who will eat which part and that they should divide

the parts equally and so on why didn't sit just go away with Hanuman Jan asks her why don't you come with me she [Music] says this is a very special part three of our four parts special on the ramayan if you haven't seen the first two parts that's okay this one is centered around the legend of Hanuman I think that Hanuman G as well as the ramayan in general isn't completely understood by most Indian audiences in today's episode we welcome yashad deodar s again who has dedicated his life to the study of the valmiki ramayan

the actual and only honest retelling of the story of the ramayan The Legend that actually took place the ithas or history of India this four-part Series has been made with a lot of pure intention the final episode is going to release in 2 days time and this double whammy that we have this week concludes our retelling of the ramayan for the 2025 audience in podcast form the intention is for all of these four episodes to be relevant for the next 50 years so if you're someone who's clicked on this episode for Hanuman G and his

secrets of course you're going to find the real description of his role in the Raman and trust me there's a lot of myths that will be broken over the course of these two episodes this is our Hanuman special in our ramayan series with yesod deara and it begins right now J sham [Music] J Shri Ram J Hanuman J SRI Ram J Hanuman Welcome Back Sir um this epic Series has reached episode three how are you sir very good thank you I think this is the episode that many Hanuman B especially we're looking forward to the

most perhaps of the whole series this is where Hanuman G gets introduced um let's just start with a tiny recap and review on the first two episodes of our series how are you feeling about it wonderful great to be back here and uh to narrate the original valmiki Ram IAS yes and you know um in terms of what you asked about a recap I think two or three three important points to remember as we get into episode three the first is that this is the waliki ramayan it may be a bit different from the popularly

known versions of the ramayan but if the question is what really happened then the reference text is the valmiki ramayan because this is the ithas also in the very first episode you had asked me the question why did Mahi waliki write it and I think that's important to keep in mind throughout our discuss Mahari valmiki wrote this because he wanted to set the highest example of what it means to be a good human being he had started off with the question who in the world lives today who has the following qualities and really the qualities

were Universal human values right so that's the objective that uh we have in front of us the highest example of uh behavior and we keep that example in front of us and be the best that we can be right so that's the purpose now in terms of the qualities uh the great qualities that he talked about earlier on SRI Ram exemplified acceptance on the day that he was sent into exile for no fault of his and he was the rightful successor he went from having it all lordship over the entire world to having nothing at

all for no fault of his again it was unfair to him but he accepted it without any anger without any irritation right so he exemplified Acceptance in the last conversation we had we saw his reaction when sitha was kidnapped that was not the time for acceptance he did not say oh it is Sia's Karma so she got abducted it is my karma to go back to aodha no he said I will find out wherever she may be and I will get her back safely right this was the time for action and he exemplified that we

spoke a bit about Karma as well so SRI Ram is exemplifying that yes acceptance is important but only after you have done everything possible all possible actions and that is what they are setting out to do right now so in the last uh conversation satha got kidnapped RAM and lakman are coming south to uh find her and they have been told that they must meet sugri at the risham mountain and he will be able to help them find her could you draw dra out a visual again a geographical visual as well as an aesthetic visual

what are we supposed to visualize here okay so geographically they started in Northern India in aodha where the story started and then into Exile they came straight South towards shaur crossed over the ganga went to the Confluence of Ganga and yamuna at prayag from there they crossed the yamuna as well and came to chitra they spent some time at chitra cut afterwards they came to panchavati which is in Western India uh not too far from here at nask sitha was kidnapped at panchawati and ravan has taken her South that's what we know from jatayu so

they start coming south and now we are in the vicinity of humpy in modern day Karnataka risham mountain and Pampa lake so that's the geographic layout and in terms of visuals if you've been to humpy this is a landscape of Boulders and some forests huge Boulders reddish brown in color uh dark brown and also forests so in this mountainous area near the Pampa Lake also near the tungabhadra river uh will be the story of today's podcast have you been to humpy yes yes and to the risham mountain yes so searching for SAA they come uh

towards Pampa Lake and this is where the first s of the kishkindha Kan starts this is the stunningly beautiful Pampa Lake in Spring wasant Ru how do you feel there the Pampa Lake that they show today is uh and we will see the descriptions of the Pampa Lake it's much smaller what we see today compared to the descriptions that we've had so surely there's been some change uh over time okay let's move on in the story right Mahi valmiki describes the beauty of Pampa at the same time for Shri Ram there is no joy in

all this only the Searing heartache of Sia's loss so Shri Ram is describing the beauty of Pampa to lakshman at the same time he's feeling pain as well it's a very beautiful SGA Shri Ram says look at those crystal clear waters of the Pampa how the wind smacks the water creates Ripples and then because of the ripples the lotuses dash against one another and he's reminded of satha he says satha loves the lotuses her eyes are just like Lotus petals the wind comes whistling out of the Mountain Valley it shakes the trees and then seems

to play with the flowers and when the wind comes with its fragrance Shri Ram is reminded of satha so he says this wind is just like saa's breath but this cool fragrant wind Burns me like fire because it reminds me of SIA so everything that is joyful is giving him pain he says look at the peacocks beautiful feathers shining brilliantly but of course he'll be dancing his beloved has not been captured by a rakas and how the pen comes up to him if if sitha was here she too would have come up to me what

role is lakshman G playing here here Ram is describing all this to lakshman through these words but in general in general see even now we will see sham will sink further and further into Despair and it is lakshman who pulls him out of that yes Shri Ram's character is the ideal and yes he's very strong but even he needs support and help at that time and which is what lakshman gives him this is probably the weakest point for shiram in the entire story right Sia's loss shook him like nothing else yes what is spoken about

his mind in this pH we will see now as well as with sugri he sinks into grief many times but he always comes out of it and I think that's also a learning last time we spoke about how sitha came back back from her lows this time we will see that SRI also comes back from his lows so does sitha and so does Hanuman so yes it is natural for us to be uh emotional at times to get overwhelmed but the lesson of the Raman is that we can always come back and overcome and channel

our emotions into purposeful action okay right before we started rolling you were telling me something as a bit of a personal recap on the first two episodes would would you like to repeat what you told me I was watching some of the you know viewer reactions and comments and I think they were happy with the change we made in the second episode so uh it's good that we were able to do that I was also thinking that we would love to hear on some of the substantive points of our discussion as well you know how

it affects uh the viewers in their own lives I've had some comments like this you know there was some person a youngster who was preparing for his PG neat exam and he found some of the inspirational parts of the ramayan uh something that he wanted to listen to every day in order to support his or Aid his preparation right so how does it uh what role does it play in our day-to-day lives in guiding Us in inspiring us would love to hear more about that what do you think yeah I think you're nudging the audience

here to drop a comment with some kind of positive feedback as as well in terms of what have they liked about this series uh what else would they like covered now in the fourth episode uh but Our intention here is to one document the story and two kind of present the story in a new light to the younger Generations like Yash s and myself we were talking about ramanan sagar's ramayan which was from the 1980s and then BR chopras Mahabharat from the 1990s we also talking about the anime of the ramayan and those are the

visual reference points for my generation especially and I would also say for your generation extremely popular yes so we are hoping that this series becomes a bit of a reference point for the newer generation that's all okay any final inputs to the audience before we move forward in the story thank you for joining us okay uh let's move forward then so essentially Ram said Yan whatever was endearing joyful for me when sitha was with me has no joy means nothing to me now that she's not here sham was also worried sick for SAA how would

she bear this ordal of captivity and he told lakshman that SAA always stood by me even when I was sent into Exile with nothing she supported me and even in Exile when I felt low she would cheer me up with her pleasant words and beautiful smile sham is again reminded and he said oh lakshman when will I hear saa's sweet voice once again I cannot live without her if I don't see her my life is meaningless but if I can be with her I will not wish for anything else in the world not even this

first s of the kishkinda by the banks of Pampa is a very long one and wmik is telling us again and again about Shri Ram's longing for sitha I think it's absolutely clear uh Miki is telling us let there be no doubt about how dearly SRI Ram loved satha but his longing was turning into Despair and you would ask before what was lakan's Role he came in right here he told Ram pull yourself up this is not who you are you cannot grieve like this we have to focus on doing I will find ravan we

will get CA back and this is what pulled Ram out of his uh you know Despair and the two came towards ROK Mountain looking for sugri and now we shall meet sugri the vanaras and the greatest among them Shri Hanuman is anything said about the vanaras before this point any kind of description because I'm assuming that when one is reading the story a description would help one visualize the vanas before they actually appear right in the beginning in the balakan there is a reference when waliki gives us the context and he has some references about

the vanas that all the vanas were you know spread throughout the land in the mountains and the forest and so on so he has given us some references uh in the balakan the first book of the Raman but really if you were acting it out right if you were doing a stage performance of the ramayan then this is where the vanas come in okay so sugri and Hanuman are watching Rah and lakshman come towards risham they watch from a distance and sugri is suspicious because they are dressed like atics but they're carrying arms he tells

Hanuman they may have been sent by my brother W go and speak to them and find out why they are here and go in your natural human form and so Hanuman took off his monkey attire and went dressed as an athetic let's pause it a little bit here yes because this is I'm sure you have the question what is this monkey attire yes I mean we I think we've spoken about it in our first ever interaction before this series I'd love for you to repeat uh this part okay sure and we had a fairly long

conversation there where many individual schas and verses I had quoted because because I think the visual reference point for all Indians who have heard the ramayan is that Hanuman G was some kind of a Divine AP like being that's what what you always end up visualizing right him with that very peculiar aplike mouth but you're saying that in the actual valmiki ramayan it is actually a reference to atti when they're speaking about aplike appearance so perhaps there is a mouthpiece there is a tail so let me recap you know or summarize the discussion the longer

discussion we had earlier essentially the vanas were forest dwellers who dressed up like monkeys humans who dressed up like monkeys they were not a different race and they also had the same cultural Roots as the uh people who lived in the cities and jpads now I will you know break down each of these parts for you the word wner in Hindi means B right and so why not monkey the word says so and waliki has also used the word kapi Shak all of these are used used to denote monkeys however all of these are adjectives

so plang Maha although used to uh denote a monkey actually means those who leap so even humans who leap can be called plang Maha and interestingly waliki has also used the words nari Jana Stree and purush for theas he has also called themas W all of which means Forest dwelling people so on one hand he has called them Nar Jan purush humans on the other handang essentially they were humans who dressed up like monkeys even today forest dwellers we see sometimes put on feathers or horns to dress up like some chosen animal okay um because

you have given so much of your own time energy and life to the ramayan I would love to ask you little tangential question okay when I say Hanuman G to you or sugri what are you visualizing when it comes to the face a forest dweller who puts on some type of a face mask to look like a monkey similar to like I said some forest dwellers would put on feathers or uh other accessories something that they could take off because even now sugri is telling him take off the monkey so it is something that they

could take off and also you know lot of stories related to the tale so they also wore a tail gotcha um and specifically when it comes to Hanuman G I am pretty sure that visually there would be something very different about him as compared to the other vanor in on some level it could just be his human face would have had a bit more Tage like T is Radiance that's the translation one one more question to Yash deodar and not Shri valmiki uhhuh what are you visualizing when it comes to Hanuman G's face so definitely

he was the greatest of them all he was well vered in The Vedas shastras and there's something very special about him and we'll see uh what he does in the kishkinda kand and Sundar kand but in terms of powers let's say or he is like the vanas but the greatest among them so you asked me visually if you see even if you go to ancient temples for example and you look at sculptures Hanuman Wali sugri other vanas are all shown similarly so you can't make out from a uh just their size of proportion also interestingly

in some of the temples their size and proportion is the same as the size and proportion of Shri RAM and lakshman H right so perhaps even those sculptors were indicating that these are humans who dressed up like monkeys gotcha okay another example you know we spoke about this there were wanas who were born to rishis and some specific examples have been given mahim so archishman was the son of Rishi marichi and he was a wner so they became wers it was a lifestyle that they chose h clearly not a different species right I mean you

are saying that they were born to Ries some of the people of aodha were born to Ries and raan as well his father was a Rishi so there is no racial difference and definite definitely not a different specie and then finally also that their cultural Roots were not different because m u because Shri Hanuman was also an expert on The Vedas and shastras and so on H so sugri tells go and speak to them and find out Hanuman comes up to them and asks them who they are lakshman says we come as friends he tells

Hanuman the background and says we looking for sitha and we have been told that sugri will be able to help us find her Hanuman says I'm delighted to meet you because sugri also needs help his brother has thrown him out of the kingdom and forcibly taken his wife I will take you to meet him when they go to meet sugri Hanuman introduces them and says they come as friends sugri says I'm honored by your proposal and then RAM and sugri solemnize their Alliance or bond of friendship by doing a prak around fire Agni to grieve

tells ram my brother has thrown me out of the kingdom and taken my wife forcibly taken my wife Ram says I will kill this who has abducted your wife very important words we'll see later that when Ram kills fali there are many questions you know even today people have this in mind why did he kill did he do the right thing right now he has stated the intention he has said I will kill w for what he has done to your wife sugri said I have also heard from Hanuman that you're looking for Sia don't

worry I will find her for you we will get her back back in fact the other day I saw a rakas going away with a lady and she was screaming oh Ram oh lakshman and she dropped some ornaments I've kept them with me I'll show them to you and you can check if they are hers you remember when ravan was going away with sitha sitha wanted to drop some clues for Ram and lakman and she dropped some of her ornaments in a piece of her clothing utarya near the vas and these were the vanas so

sugri had kept these ornaments and gave them to Shri Ram they were wrapped in Sia's utara sham opened the cloth and inside wasa's ornaments he clutched them to his heart fell down to his knees his eyes clouded with tears and his throat choked and he told lakshman look Sia's jewelry but lakman said I cannot recognize some of this jewelry lakan's answer is legendary very famous shown in many sculptures and paintings he says I cannot recognize some of this jewelry I'll tell you what that answer what he says after this but before that the context when

they were going for Exile in dhat's court lakan's mother sumitra had told him ratam with treat Ram as your father treat sitha as your mother the forest is now aodha for you go forth my child be well and lakshman had done that for all these years in Exile he had served RAM and Sia like a father and mother he had given up 14 years of his life to support them and then on the day that sitha had got kidnapped you would remember the harsh and unfair words that she had said to him in a fit

of anger admittedly but she had said you have an eye on me don't you and you have desired me all this while what a thing to say to lakshman after all these years now with that context you will be able to appreciate lakan's answer he says I cannot recognize some of this jewelry I cannot recognize these armbands I also cannot recognize these earrings but I do recognize these anklets for I have always bowed at her feet SRI was sinking further into grief once again upon seeing Sia's jewelry this time sugri pulled him out he gave

him courage then SRI Ram asked him what happened between you and W you are brothers and then sugri told his backstory sugri and W were brothers W was the Elder one when their father the king of the vanas passed away Wali inherited the kingdom he was the Elder one capable and popular and sugri was happy to serve under him but then there was a misunderstanding between the two and Wali thought that sugri had tried to kill him and assur the kingdom and so he threw him out and forcibly took Ruma sug re's wife sugri said

please help me but he also said w he is extremely powerful how will you be able to face him lakshman smiled and he said what can Ram do to convince you sugri looked around and pointed to a row of Seven Trees they were all in a line and he said if Ram can fire an narrow at any of these and with just one Arrow split the tree then I'll be convinced that he can take on one sham took an arrow loaded it on his bow pulled the bow string hard and shot the arrow with such

force that it split not one but all seven Sal trees one after the other sugri was stunned and convinced and so all of them set off for kishkindha the capital of the vanas sugri went to the gates of the capital the others stood hidden behind the trees in the forest sugri challenged V taunted him to come out and fight with him while came out boiling with Fury and the two started fighting they were throwing punches and kicks at each other sugri was powerful but slowly Wali began to get the upper hand sugri looked for Ram

to help but Ram didn't do anything and then sugri lost his nerve he ran back to rimu when the others came sugri was embarrassed and he told Ram why didn't you help me I thought we had a plan I would draw W out and then you would kill him why did you get me beaten up like this Ram said you two look exactly like each other I did not know which one was V and so I could not shoot my arrow listen let's do this again this time you wear something around your neck why don't

you wear that creeper the gaja pushi creeper with flowers so that I know it's you sugri did that and they went back to ruk once again the others were hiding in the forest sugri taunted W to come out W was about to come out but W's wife Tara stopped him she said this is very suspicious sugri came challenged you got beaten up ran away and now he's back surely there's somebody helping him and I have heard from our spies that that someone is Ram the prince of aodha he is Invincible don't go against him and

I also think you should bring sugri back he has done nothing wrong please appoint him as your successor but W did not listen to Tara and he came out of the city to to fight sugri once again the two started fighting throwing you know Landing blows on each other once again W began to get the upper hand sugri looked around waiting for Shri Ram to help and this time Shri Ram had no doubt which one is W he took an arrow loaded it on his bow pulled the bow string hard and sent off that Arrow

which went whizzing like thunder and struck W on the chest and W crashed to the ground when they came up to him W was dying but he still asked Ram these biting questions he said how could you I was fighting my brother I was not fighting you I have not harmed you I have not insulted you I have no fight with your kingdom then why did you kill me I thought that you follow Dharma and SATA but you are a fraud you know these were very strong accusations at SRI RAM and SRI Ram told W

I will tell you why I killed you your crime is what you have done to your younger brother's wife a man is not allowed to have a physical relationship with his daughter sister and younger brother's wife a younger brother is like a son and his wife a daughter-in-law by forcibly taking Ruma while sugri is still alive you have violated Dharma and Sham told him how the punishment for this crime was also seen in earlier instances SRI Ram also said the iwaku ensure that Dharma is not broken throughout the world parat is our King and as

his representative in these lands I cannot allow a crime like this to go unpunished essentially SRI Ram was saying that W was a criminal and he had punished him for his crime and then W said without a doubt what you say is correct he realized that what Shri Ram had done was as per Dharma Tara soon came out she cried bitterly upon seeing her husband in that condition on the verge of death but even then she did not blame Ram she said you have got you have got the fruits of your actions of throwing out

your brother and forcibly taking Ruma so clearly whether it was w himself or Tara or angad none of them thought that Shri Ram had done anything wrong by giving Wali the punishment for that crime context on angad angad is W's son yeah he too came out with Tara he will play an important Ro going ahead yes young boy in fact on his uh just as he's dying W after he says I'm convinced he tells Ram angad is still a young boy please take care of him h M yeah okay and then they conducted the last

rights of Vali sugri was feeling very guilty for the role that he had played uh in his brother's death he started talking of killing himself or retiring and going back to ruk but lakshman is always very direct he came up to him and said ma he said don't be silly you the king now and so sugri became the king of the vanaras how many years have they already spent in the vanas at this point 13 so they are in their last year okay all this is happening in the last year in the last year in

fact uh when sitha saw the golden deer at that moment you know just before she got abducted she had already started thinking about what they would do when they go back to aodha so it had seemed like their wwas was almost over when sitha was kidnapped and then ravan gave her 12 months remember he said I give you 12 months except my hand or else yeah gotcha so now they had to look for Sia however they couldn't start on it right away Ram said to sugri the rainy season is almost here chaturmas it is impossible

to travel during this season the rivers are all in Spate overflowing with water you can't cross them and so we will start the search as soon as the skies have cleared so sugri goes back to kishkinda Sri RAM and lakshman settle down in a cave on prasan giri to wait out the rainy months and then the rain clouds roll in Mari valmiki had earlier described wasant Ru spring and now he describes vararu the rainy season so in the description of the vararu the rainy season I want to show you one verse one scho let's see

how much is packed into one SCH 32 syllables also the context is roughly 12,000 BC yes according to n s's work yes now let's go ahead the sky drinks the water from the ocean with the help of the sun's Rays stores it in its womb for 9 months and then delivers the water back this life giving water rasayanam what beautiful imagery for the rainy season even here you can see the summer months the land is hot dry parged and Dusty and after the rains there's new life New Birth so a wonderful image of storing the

water in the womb for 9 months and then delivering the water back uh the rasayan lifegiving Water also note here that Mahari valmiki has described the water cycle you would remember this diagram from your school right the sun's Rays strike the ocean and then water evaporates stores in the clouds and the clouds deliver the rainfall and this is what he has described wow how many of these kind of paragraphs are there throughout the Waki text so uh you mean about the rainfall I mean about just these little scientific anecdotes yes and see he is not

describing water cycle here he's actually just describing rainfall in a very poetic way but we can see it's the water cycle and it's many times these are the hidden things for example there is another description where you can infer that he knows that the Earth is round and not flat all you know uh these thousands of years back does he say that no but you can infer if he has to do that imagery then uh there must have been knowledge that the Earth is rounda so such are the descriptions uh of the rainy season but

again for sham there is no joy in all this he worries for satha and then the four months pass by nothing is said about sitam at this point her reality in the kishkinda not much so sham is coming and you know he has come to meet sugri and now he has formed an alliance with him we will meet sitama in the Sundar kand when Hanuman goes there okay once the skies are cleared there is still no sign of sugri because he's busy he's busy having a good time he's partying day and night with many women

in his Palace and Ram's patience is running out he tells lakshman these four months have been like a 100 years for Me Sia is in that terrible condition and we are wasting time here I think my friend sugri has forgotten what he has promised to do go and remind him lakshman goes to meet sugri but he is lying drunk out of his senses knocked out his people wake him up with great difficulty he has red eyes and he's not very coherent he tells Tara to go and calm lakshman calm him down a little bit and

get him inside lakshman then comes in and he tells sugri you having a good time here aren't you you got what you wanted from RAM and now you're not bothered to do what you promised to do but don't forget what he's capable of sugri then jumped down from his throne and he said please forgive me I am always at Ram's service I can never forget what he has done for me and then sugri sprang into action he gave orders for the vas from all lands from mountains and forests in different parts of this land to

all Gather in kishkindha and then waliki describes that millions of vanas came to kishkinda from the vindas from the Western Sea Coast and all the way to Himalayas so sometimes we wonder whether vanas were only in Southern India or the region of humi not so they were present in all the forests and the mountains and following Suri's command they came to kishkinda and then sugri gave them orders to go and look for satha in the four directions so he made four teams one for each Direction north south east and west and here valmiki takes a

very interesting turn to each team he tells them what they will find as they go further and further in that direction and essentially in these SAS Mahi valmiki has described what must perhaps be the oldest World Atlas probably the most interesting part of our episode in N OA as well like he has studied this in great detail uh the locations gives you a visualization of the Earth from 12,000 BC yes I have to recap one aspect of one of the episodes with n OA you were speaking about the East Direction in uh yes you know

this part of our episode uh I think he's also described the Pacific Ocean Beyond Japan he said that I think he called it the great ocean or something along those lines and he said that at the edge of the great o ocean you'll find a mountain with a Trish drawn on it and that exact mountain is still there you can still see a TR drawn on it and what n o sir said is that he went to South America and if you actually ask the local tribes in that region about that mountain with the trishul

they say that they don't know where it came from but their ancestors have passed on the message that this trishul has always been there that's what I I find Crazy yes effectively the ramayan from back then was describing a part of South America and at trul still existed and they've also spoken in detail about South America but uh this is a part of the N shoke episode so I recommend viewers go check that one out after you're done with this particular episode but from this part of the valmiki ramayan um for me at least so

many tiny excerpts like this give you a very very detailed and very very mindbending visualization of what the Earth and what world culture was back then yes yes I'll give you some examples you know sometime uh for some of the references we can match to today's locations easily sometimes it is more difficult you can approximate you know uh you have uh reasonable confidence for example he talks of yaad dwe which is the island of java yaa is Java Island further in the Eastern direction we are somewhere in Southeast Asia he talks of a river called

Shona sha means red and he says that the Waters of this River are fast flowing and reddish in color Ral this is most likely the Red River which passes through Hanoi in Vietnam wow even today it is reddish brown in color and it floods very often further east he talks of some people who inhabit islands and Mahi valmiki says through Suri's words that the people are yellow skinned Pleasant looking people who eat raw fish sounds familiar Japan yes most likely so sugri gives orders uh to all all these four teams but the a team is

for the southern Direction because that's where most likely sitha is remember jatayu had seen them going south sugri had also seen ran going further south so angad is leading the team and jamban and Hanuman are also in that team sugri pulled Hanuman aside and he said if there's one person who can do this it's you I'm counting on you and SRI Ram gave Hanuman his ring which had his name inscribed on it and said when you meet sitha show this to her she'll know that you come as a friend and then the four teams set

out roaring with confidence they went out but within one month by the way sugri had given this time limit you must come back in a month within a month the north east and west teams came back they had found no sign of sitha the South team team was in trouble they had lost their way for some time and not only had they not found sitha but they had also not covered the area that they were supposed to look so they were in uh trouble they were somewhere on the Eastern Sea Coast sitting around dejected unsure

what to do next just then they came across saati Jay's elder brother and he told them that he has seen in Lanka and he told them the way to get there once again energized they came South to the point from which they had to cross over the ocean but when they looked at it the vast expanse you know all the way to the Horizon and much Beyond this is what they had to cross how to go across the distance was 100 yanas how much is a yoj now in terms of today you know the the

conversion factor is not yet not exactly known because this conversion has actually changed over time but just so that you can get a sense for this distance uh aodha was 12 yojanas long and now we are talking of 100 yojanas so it was a very long distance the vanaras were looking at the sea and they were stumped how to go across angad who was the leader asked them who can go across no one spoke up he said speak up who can go how far and then somebody said I can go 40 yanas somebody said 50

and then 60 70 80 jamban said I can do 90 ojas and no more angat said I can do 100 yojanas but I'm not sure I can come back in all this Hanuman was sitting quietly jamban asked him why don't you say something Hanan why you sitting by yourself Hanuman could do it but jamban needed to inspire him and remind him of who he was let's watch a short video on Jan's inspiring words and how Hanuman Rises up to the challenge would you like to set any context on jamban jamban was an uh elderly senior

Forest dweller interestingly he did not dress up as a wner so he was a Ruka these were forest dwellers who dressed up like Bears Goa and that culture still exists in Russia right bare culture where they also dress up as I see okay we'll move on to the video yes once when you were just a little boy you thought that the Rising Sun was some fruit you jumped up to try and grab it and what a leap it was but unfortunately you fell and broke your jaw hanu and thus your name Hanuman and that day

despite your injury you never even flinched you were so brave that Indra blessed you you will only die when you wish to not otherwise so what are you afraid of this van armi is waiting to see your Valor arise o greatest of wers go forth across the ocean and then Hanuman began to rise he realized once again who he was for he was capable of the vanas roared and cheered him they praised him and their praise gave him even more confidence he began to Glow radiantly he stretched and Reed himself like a lion stretching his

body hanuman's Poise was reflecting his growing confidence and determination valmiki poetically says it seemed as though he was physically growing bigger and then Hanuman thundered I am the son of Wu I am powerful and Unstoppable like him I will push back the seawaters with my arms arms I will strike the ocean with my legs janga I see clearly I shall soon meet satha I can go to Lanka without a doubt Hanuman was bursting with confidence here valmiki has shown us the power of narrative how our beliefs about who we are our self-image can critically impact

what we do the vanas were amazed and delighted to see Hanuman fired up like this jamban said by the blessings of the rishis and the elders may you be successful Hanuman then took a few steps and launched himself towards Lanka valmiki poetically says that when he leapt so great was the impact that the trees shook violently rocks came tumbling down the mountain sides streams of water crushed out birds flew away and the deer and elephants ran about terrified and Hanuman had brought the entire focus of his mind on only one thing getting to Lanka Jag

manasa Manas and with those words the fourth book of the valmiki ramayan comes to an end Kish action movie Yes wow and with that leap he has set off towards Lanka and now Begins the fifth book of the ramayan the Sundar kand wow Goosebumps because perhaps this is one of the most impactful stories from the world of sanatan that's impacted every kid who's ever heard the ramayan because it teaches you self-confidence yes right I have one question before we move forward okay because um your I remember reading the ram charitra Manas version of the kishkinda

and even the rasar G Maharaj Sundar kand that you have available on YouTube and Spotify and all these streaming sites always speaks about the the fierce love that Hanuman G felt for Sri Ram is that mentioned up to this point or is it a love that developed as they went into battle together and as they got to know each other more deeply clearly that developed over time right so their first meeting was when he had gone down to meet them uh when sugri had sent him that was their first meeting and even then SRI Ram

was also very impressed in fact as they were coming up he said to lakshman anyone who has an ambassador like that is a very fortunate King he was very impressed uh with Hanuman and remember he gave his ring to Hanuman because he also thought out of everyone if there's anyone who can do this it is Shri Hanuman and likewise uh hanuman's respect for Sri RAM and later on we'll see towards sitha as well when he meets her grows as their interactions develop yeah I want to say something slightly mind men I genuinely believe in L

oar's work okay and if he's dating the ramayan to about 12,000 BC I also hosted Rupa bti on the show who studied the rig and she takes that timeline back to 200,000 BC 2 lakh years ago for me sanatan DH seems very very incomplete without Hanuman G but the truth is if these timelines are to be believed we've only had Hanuman G as as one of our key dates for the last 14,000 years or so I have so many tangential questions about Hanuman so the question I have for you sir is we were just speaking

about whether or not you're going to do the same kind of research with the Mahabharat but you said that I don't know I'm too deeply immersed in the ramayan right now I'm still understanding it you're still studying it is your understanding of Hanuman G also evolving as you're moving forward like all aspects of the ram we spoke about this earlier as well the more you the deeper you go and the more inspiring and uh the more inspiring you find it so Shri hanuman's character as well yes there are the grand moments which we uh appreciate

and are inspired in the first reading for example crossing over to Lanka which we will see now nobody else could do it and Shri Hanuman did it very inspiring we'll soon see that but also the way he speaks to sitha in that fragile condition later on his thoughtfulness in every moment is something that you appreciate as you study it more and more yeah in any version of The Ram even the animated Japanese one um you know when you read like The ramcharit Manas the moment Hanuman G appears in the text the energy of your own

mind changes like as we are speaking right now the energy of the room is so different and he's with us in every episode but when you're specifically speaking about him uh there's a very different calming energy almost in the room sh Hanuman has a very special place in our hearts and also think about it we are you know reading Ras rayam Ram's Journey Ram story and now in Sundar we are going to Lanka without Shri the main character is Shri Hanuman yeah one last thing before we move on rajash nand who's my absolute alltime favorite

Tantra guests on the show he said that when it comes to sanatan DH any Dy with the face of an animal that's ganpati hanumanji nursing vaha or vahi any Dy with the face of an animal is more easily accessible through their mantras they're closer to Earthly Realms and they come to help you much quicker always fter about Hanan G as well that's what they say right when you're saying anything about the ramayan when you're reciting the ramayan he's present in the room so that's all I have to say while moving forward uh one tiny question

for you do you feel a difference in the energy when valmiki is writing about Hanuman G I find that whenever I'm reading the Sundar K it is my favorite one but likewise whenever I'm reading the aodha K it is my favorite one all of these CS are special in their own way how do you feel when you're reading the Sundar K Sundar kand is about inspiring you know never give up even in your darkest moments you can draw inspiration that there is a way to come out of it J Hanuman J Hanuman okay let's move

forward so with that he has just taken a leap to go across the 100 yojanas to Lanka now what is the image that usually comes to your mind when we talk about Hanuman going to Lanka flying over the ocean flying over the ocean we've seen that in so many you know paintings Temple walls water flying in both directions some demons trying to stop him I'm absolutely dominant those demons right so we have just seen he also said I will push back the sea Waters with my arms I will strike the ocean with my legs at

the end of kishkinda he said that so what was it flying leaping or swimming the first Sara of the sundaran is the longest one of the ramayan and in this SGA Hanuman goes to Lanka and Mahi valmiki has described this journey in great detail and his words are clear that Hanuman swam to Lanka he describes his swimming technique in Greater detail wow so it was very similar to what we now call the butterfly stroke Hanuman would throw both his arms out into the air push back the water he would also kick with his legs and

he would put his head down into the water come out and open his mouth M to breathe so that was the swimming technique I want to show you some specific verses which talk about this sure Hanuman would throw both his hands out into the air it seemed as though a pair of five-headed snakes had emerged from a mountain it seemed as though the great wner wanted to drink the entire ocean and then he looked up to the sky as though he was still thirsty in simple words he would put his head into the water and

then come out look up and open his mouth is there anything that's said about his increase in size yes so even earlier at the end of kishkinda KH there is a talk of him increasing in size now the question is is that real or is that poetic during the journey also Mahi valmiki talks about him increasing in size to overcome a particular challenge now if you say that this is real right perhaps he had some powers to increase his size for one particular challenge he actually increased his size up to 100 yojanas okay now if

if it was real would he need to fly or Swim he could have stepped across clearly this is poetic increasing in size is increasing in determination and confidence and reducing in size is about doing things nimbly with a lot of flexibility in stealth yeah now together with this swimming technique the beauty of M's poetry is such we know he went swimming but the image left in our mind is of Hanuman flying through the sky and the reason that happens is at the end of kishkinda you saw that when Hanuman took a leap this huge exaggeration

that the mountains Shook and rocks tumbled down Etc waliki says that the force of his leap was such that because of that there was a strong wind and the wind carried the flowers onto the sea and then the sea which was covered with flowers looked like the Starry Sky there's also a on this and then the great ocean looked like the Starry Sky so with this transition he now starts looking at the sea as though it is the sky so when Hanuman went in and out of the water he talks of him Hanuman is like

the Moon that is going in and out of clouds so there's Vivid description of Hanuman in the sky after this transition wow and some people uh wonder whether this was due to any yogic PA now Mahi valmiki has not mentioned any yogic PA also some people ask whether there was any uh personal flight technology the way the way ravan had weans but once again in mahi valmiki's description it starts with the actual description of the swimming technique and then the transition and then the descriptions of flight gotcha and this was a gruelling test see other

wers could also do what Hanuman was doing they couldn't do it for 100 yojanas so they could do it for 40 50 or up to 80 yojanas but only Hanuman could do it he faced many challenges but in the end he did reach the other Shore and he had achieved The Impossible what are the challenges that are spoken about one of the challenges is that Hanuman is challenged by surasa a serpent uh essentially Hanuman was drawn into a Whirlpool into the sea and he tried to swim out but the currents were too strong and finally

he had to go through the eye of the whirpool essentially surasa the serpent said that I have a boon and you must go through my mouth and so Hanuman reduced himself in size and went through sasa's mouth or the mouth of the whirpool he was also attacked by a rakasi called Sika that part of the ocean even today has what we call the saltwater crocodile it is a huge beast at the top of the food chain so an apex predator and therefore the right name Sika and Hanuman was able to over overcome her as well

wow do you think that raavan Lanka is the same as Sri Lanka yes that's your conclusion that's my conclusion okay and I know that you know there are for example n has a different conclusion and I respect and admire his work essentially see the research related to this you collect all the data points that are there in the ramayan and then you have to figure out the best fit many times because there could be conflicting uh data points uh you an engineer so you know that when you collect data points you draw a line of

best fit right every Point may not fall on that line but what is it that best describes it and then sometimes you have to decide what do you put more weightage on so for example if you put more weightage on the sea levels at the time of the ramayan then that points in a slightly different direction but if you look at it from this point of view that Hanuman went swimming which is described in great detail so it couldn't have been a th000 kilomet or uh something more and even today you can see the island

of Lanka and you can see the islands the ramu that go up to it and so on so uh I think you know for me the conclusion I have taken you know in these videos as well as in my uh analysis that today is Sri Lanka is the Lanka of ramay so 100 yojanas would be the distance between kanyakumari and Sri Lanka not kanyakumari uh from rameshwaram you go to the edge dhanush Ki from there to Sri Lanka rameshwaram is your starting point rameshwaram is a little Inland if you go right up to the tip

it is dhanush KI today sea levels would have changed a little bit in all of these so it could be a slightly different at that time H so not at the southern tip it is uh a little north and east which is the closest point to Sri Lanka gotcha right okay understood so Hanuman made it to the other side he then walked Inland and came to the city of Lanka it was a spectacular site built on a mountain the city seemed to be touching the sky at the base it was surrounded by a moat and

a boundary wall even the boundary wall was inlaid with gold old it was an incredibly well-built City it exuded power Grandeur and wealth and there were many rakshasas protecting and guarding the boundary wall and the gates Hanuman decided to wait for Nightfall and then when it was dark He Slipped over the boundary wall and went inside waliki has given a detailed description of Lanka at night the city was well laid out like aodha with broad Avenues it had Mansions seven and eight stories high and the Mansions were also decorated with gold silver crystals the city

dazzled in the Moonlight truly it was Soni Lanka you a city of gold and what Hanuman saw breaks a lot of stereotypes also or misconceptions about the rakshasas I want to share some of these with you right in the beginning when I had spoken in our first discussion I mentioned rakshasas and you said are they demons and I said hold on let's hear what Mahi valmiki has said because if you say demons it gives a particular imagery right even today if you ask someone a child to draw a rakas he may draw it with horns

or you know hideous looking creatures waliki says the rakshasas of Lanka were viran Sur rupan bahur rupan somewhere hideous others were very handsome they came in all forms some were very nice clothes and the rasas were not a different race another you know misconception I want to clarify the rasas were not a different race even Ran's father was a Rishi he was not a rakas his mother was a rakshasi and he considered himself as part of the rakas community the rakas clan earlier also Kaka virad they were not born as rakshasas so this has nothing

to do with race also the rakasa the rakas society also its roots were Vic so they were not uh their cultural Roots were the same as those of aodha and the other cities and the vanaras and the vanaras yes at its core right in Lanka Hanuman heard people recite WR in The Vedas he saw Vic altars and shrines he saw images of Lakshmi and on many rakas houses he also saw the swastic symbol the ancient symbol of auspiciousness so clearly fight with the rasas was not a fight between One race and another it was not

a fight between Vic and non-vc societies right this becomes very clear when we hear about the rakas uh about Lanka's description through hanuman's eyes Hanuman looked for sitha in different parts of the city and then finally he came to the highest point of the city where he found a grand palace this was clearly Ran's Palace it was a complex of buildings once again protected by a boundary wall Hanuman slipped across the boundary wall and went inside it had some open areas and also some uh halls in a Halls what Hanuman saw in the outer Courtyards

is very interesting he saw horses and elephants and some of the elephants had two and three tusks some had four tusks now this is a very interesting clue from dating point of view because the forast elephant got extinct thousands of years back so this clearly points towards the 12,000 marker rather than the 500 or 1,000 BC marker the forast elephant and in the courtyards Hanuman also saw many vehicles chariots as well as womans so the flying vehicles vians ran had not only one the pushpak womman was the greatest of them all but he had many

of them and they were parked like a parking lot in his Palace complex Hanuman went into the inner Chambers there were many banquet halls where he saw wine spilled on the floor different kinds of meats half eaten plates and then finally he came to Ran's bed chamber it was a massive Hall dedicated to the pleasure of the sensus there were hundreds of women lying around they were they had all dozed off after much drinking pleasure yeah pleasure Hall same as the bedroom yes what is described so these women their hair was disabled uh some of

their clothes had partially slipped off they had obviously been drinking a lot they had been playing musical instruments so singing Dancing Yeah and in the middle of it all was raan's magnificent bed he was also sleeping and even on his bed he had company there were beautiful ladies giving you know sleeping on his bed and waliki says you know who were these women so waliki says that many of them had been captured as Spoils of War by raan after battles so clearly when he abducted sitha this was not the first time he had done any

such thing in fact he was very proud of it he had told satha as well I have captured all these women from different lands from here and there and you will be the chief among them that's what he was offering SAA so many of them had been captured W Miki says some of them had come of their own will as well tiny pause I'm very curious about what rakas Society was in the first place we spoke word vanners we said that they basically forest dwellers and uh it's likely that they were putting on gear that

made them eventually look like monkeys mhm uh similarly do you think that the rakshasas were a clan right and and they were the capital was Lanka yes so the rakas community the King was raavan yeah their Capital was Lanka they had another Power Center at Janan which Ram had destroyed last time near panchavati near panchavati yes remember K uh K and his 14,000 rasas that uh RAM killed Mumbai of back then right for you know close close to Mumbai yes H and when we're speaking about the battles that ravan went about this is what do

you think is it all over the globe most likely what we are talking about is in the vicinity of this land between the Himalayas and the Sea subcontinent yes and few islands around that as well okay gotcha now let's move forward and you were talking of the rakas society so picturize it like this even when Hanuman came in see when he by now the women had all dozed off right but when he came into the city it was just after dark the party was on there was music and laughter everywhere uh this was clearly a

very wealthy City well organized and the rakshasas were having a good time you know in the section about sugri you spoke about how post beating Wali he was in a bit of a party phase for 3 months yes and here we also speaking about a party phase is alcohol mentioned in both the oh definitely very clearly uh repeatedly same kind of alcohol most likely not because um the one had alcohol made of Honey which was the forest produce and here most likely it would have been some sort of a fermented fruit fruit wine so alcohol

and parting are mentioned and clearly in Raven's bedroom there is some kind of mentions about sexuality a lot had been going on in fact when Hanuman sees all this in Ran's bed chamber he comes to the conclusion that the SAA Rah had told him about cannot be in a place like this and he says I must look for her elsewhere and he comes out of the bed chamber but before we leave here one interesting point waliki has described ravan sleeping form and here clearly he talks of one head and two arms not 10 head and

20 arms Hanuman came out and looked through the rest of the palace everywhere in the basement rooms on Terraces and when he did not find sitha he started going into a loop of negativity he started imagining one bad thing after another he said he thought to himself has ravan killed Sia or perhaps she has killed herself if I go back and report this how will Ram be able to survive he cannot live without Sia and then what about lakshman right so he's getting paralyzed with these thoughts and he thinks that he has reached the end

of the road he even considers taking his own life but then he reminds himself killing oneself is not correct only if one is alive will things take a turn for the better I must focus on doing and he pulls himself out of that negative Loop and when he thinks about everything where he has gone he realizes that there's one place he has not yet looked which is the Walled Garden near Ran's Palace and so he goes over the boundary wall of the garden and goes inside it's a beautiful garden true to its name asok that

which takes away all sorrow he goes around looking for sitha Hanuman climbs up a tree and then in the distance he sees A lady wearing old and dirty clothes she's covered with dust she's pale emaciated she's obviously not been eating well and she's surrounded by rakshasis and she looks scared but even in that condition there is something special about about her Hanuman thinks is the SAA and then he realizes that the clothes she is wearing although they are old they match the cloth in which the jewels had been wrapped and also she looks like the

lady that had dropped those Jewels he had finally found sitha Hanuman shed tears of joy but he was also pained on seeing the great princess in that condition Sham in the ashoke garden which takes away all sorrow Sia was drowning in shoke grief Sia's condition this has been about 10 months in captivity in many popular Productions perhaps this does not come through fully for all she has endured torture torment trying to get her to say yes and she's lying there covered with dust but still holding on to her faith in Shri Ram is anything said

about the torture well she keeps saying that the rakshasis torment her remember ran had told the rakas is guarding her break her will like she's like a wild elephant so torment her and then be nice to her use both uh approaches Hanuman is waiting for a chance to speak with sitha and then the sun comes up and soon raavan shows up and with him are some of the ladies that had given him company the previous night satha sees ravan coming and she starts shaking with fear she hugs her knees ravan comes up to her his

eyes full of passion and he looks at her his gaze lingering on every part of her body satha wants to make herself invisible but there's no getting away from Ran's gaze ravan then says the Creator must have taken retirement after he made you you are so beautiful there is no one as beautiful as you oh SAA why don't you accept me I'm hopelessly in love with you be mine and I will lay down the world at your feet you will be the queen of Lanka why do you still think of ram there's no way he

can get you out of here SAA answer in spite of everything that she has gone in spite of the fact that she's shaking with fear she's firm in her answer she places a blade of grass between herself and ran and addressing the blade she gives the answer ravan is not even going to get a look from her she says stop thinking of me and let me go I am in separ able from Ram like light from the sun apologize to Rah I'm telling you what's good for you if you don't let me go rah will

surely find me and he will kill you now that's not the answer ran wanted to hear so things start to escalate from here once again let's see a short video on this if you are so strong and brave why did you have to trick RAM and lakshman away from the Hut in panchavati why did you not fight them you cannot face them just as a dog cannot stand up to two tigers ran replied menacingly I am being nice to you and you are insulting me you ought to be put to death right now but I

am holding back my anger because I'm in love with [Music] you as per the deadline I had fixed before you have two more months oh pretty one climb into my bed or else I will send you off to the kitchen to be chopped up and cooked for my breakfast sitha fired back you wretch how come your tongue that says such things does not fall out of your mouth your end is certain Ram will come and his arrows will knock the life out of you you don't stand a chance against him he is powerful like an

elephant and you are a rabbit this was Sia's incredible power months of torment and suffering could not break her no temptation could lure her ravan could not break her will nor shake her confidence in [Music] Ram ravan his his eyes rolling with anger hissed SAA I will destroy you and he raised his right fist to punch but rakshasi quickly came forward to diffuse the situation she embraced raavan and said fire you after that wretched Sia come with me let's have some fun and she Drew him away ran went back to his Palace laughing heartily with

his many women and leaving behind a trembling [Music] Sia trembling but steadfast on the path of [Music] th it her ass that is how it happened intense yes do you think he was a cannibal the rakshasas ate human flesh in fact the rakasi surrounding sitha also threatened her very clearly we are going to cut you up they brought some axes and so we'll cut your body up right now and chop you up into pieces and they were discussing who will eat which part and that they should divide the parts equally and so on any other

men of cannibalism throughout the text about rasas yes many times wow okay so ravan had gone back and the rakshasis got back to the work that he had given them they started trying to convince her or torment her threaten her but Sia's answer remained the same she said I will never accept raavan I will not even touch him with my foot why doesn't he get it my my answer is no saa's answer and her faith in Sri Ram is incredible see she doesn't know whether he even knows that she's here and so although she has

clearly said that she will not accept ran she does swing between hope and despair as to whether Ram will come to save her or not she's very confident that if he knew he would surely come but does he even know I'm here and then sitha starts to lose hope she thinks that ravan will definitely kill her because she will never accept him so in two more months her end is certain so she thought of taking her own life and end it now itself she thought of hanging herself from her own long braid so she clutched

the braid went a little distance away from the rakshasis caught hold of a branch to tie her braid but just then there was a wave of Hope and she turned away and that hope was not misplaced because this was the tree on which Hanuman was sitting and this was his chance he could speak to her but what could he say that would not frighten her she was in a very fragile emotional state and if he said something she might shriek or run away and that would alert the rakshasis so what could he say what Hanuman

did really shows off his presence of mind and intelligence he started speaking in an indirect way so he's sitting on the tree sitha is looking away and he starts to say there was once a great king in the iwaku dynasty called Dash his eldest son was RAM and he starts narrating the story sitha is listening to it and he narrates it up to the point of her abduction sitha knows this very well and then Hanuman continues he says RAM and lakshman came South looking for satha they made an alliance with sugri who is the king

of the vanaras and now sugri has sent off thousands of vas to look for sitha I am one of them I crossed the great ocean and I came here and now I see in front of me a lady who looks exactly like the Sia Ram had told me about and then Hanuman stops think about it SAA has just heard that thousands of people are looking for her first of all RAM and lakman are okay and that thousands of people are looking for her and one of them them is right there on the tree she looks

up and through the leaves ofor looks back at her and this is too much she just faints when sitha regained her Consciousness Hanan climbed down from the tree and approached her and he asked her oh lady are you satha and now Sia's answer is once again it tells us a lot about SAA there's also learning for us sitha says I am the daughter-in-law of the great king Dash the foremost among all the kings in the world I am the daughter of King janak my name is sitha I am Ram's wife note she's giving her introduction

her identity as the daughter-in-law of the great king Dhat it all started with what her father-in-law Dash had done those promises and all her troubles started from there but she holds nothing against him she knew that he was trapped by his own words also the day RAM lakman and sitha left Dash's last few days were not his best right he was a broken old man but sitha remembers him for his best days I am the daughter-in-law of the great king Dash the for most among all the kings in the world Hanuman was delighted to hear

this he said I'm Hanuman Ram's messenger sitha was so happy to see him but she had a doubt and she said if you have met Ram can you describe him for me and this is the place where Hanuman describes SRI Ram physically you had asked me in our first conversation is there any physical description of Sri Ram so yes there is one right at the beginning in the balakan and then here through hanuman's words and then Hanuman gives Sia the ring that Ram had given him and now satha has no doubt a wave of Happiness

swept over satha she held the ring and she felt Ram's presence and finally she had someone she could call her own she opened her heart out to Hanuman they spoke for a long time and then it was time for Hanuman to leave sitha told him please tell Ram I cannot take this much longer if he doesn't get here in 2 months it will be all over for me sitha also gave Hanuman an hament as proof that he had met her and she also told him about an incident that happened in chitra as further proof because

this incident no one knew about it except Rah and Sia Hanan then asked her if she had any message for lakshman now remember what she had last said to lakshman those hurtful and unfair words this time as message she says please convey my regards to lakshman he's a quiet one but he's always there for he gave up everything to support him in Exile he treats Ram like a father and he treats me like a mother I'm sure he will come to my Aid now and then Hanuman took his leave he had achieved what he had

come out to do but now he realized that a war with the rasas was inevitable and he thought that he should assess the strengths and weaknesses of the rasas before heading back and he should also try and weaken the enemy as much as possible I'm sorry sir I'm going to have to stop you there for a little bit uh want to know why didn't sitama just go away with Hanuman G after the interaction okay in fact Hanuman asks her why don't you come with me and sitha gives multiple answers uh satha gives many reasons she

says you have the strength and energy to go across the ocean and I do not and if we try to run away the rakshasas will surely see us and then how will you fight them while also carrying me on on the back sitha also felt that ravan had tricked Ram away from the cottage and kidnapped her and now Ram should defeat raavan for what he had done and she didn't want to run away like this and finally satha still recoiled from the memory of Ran's touch the day she had been kidnapped you remember how Mahi

balmiki had described that he had grabbed her by the hair dragged her picked her up and she said I still recoil from that memory and I don't want to touch any person other than Ram uh but clearly the Practical reason was she didn't have the energy to do go across the 100 yojanas like Hanuman got you okay so Hanuman thought I have found Sia but I must now weaken the enemy and I also must assess their strengths and weaknesses is there anything written about his emotional state of mind because what you're relaying it seems more

practical and almost for lack of better was geopolitical here we see many different aspects of uh Shri hanuman's thoughts so he was at the lowest point in raan's Palace when he didn't find sitha he thought he had looked everywhere and he had not found her and when he found sitha he was overjoyed so those were emotional aspects but as soon as the job that part was done he started thinking practically towards the next steps which was the war gotcha okay all the characters of the RAM and we find that they are thinking and planning for

the future see satha dropped the ornaments even when she had just been kidnapped but immediately she started thinking what else can I do to leave some Clues Hanuman has just completed what nobody else could do he had found Sia but now he's thinking of the war and so Hanuman did something that was sure to enrage ran he destroyed the Ashok one he uprooted trees broke broke down branches uh breached the ponds and when ravan heard about this he sent some of his ferocious Warriors to tackle Hanuman to deal with him the rakshasas attacked Hanuman and

soon they were all dead Hanuman fought with whatever he had crowbars uh rocks and so on ran sent another group and again another group every time the result was the same the rakshasas lay dead and finally ravan sent his son Mead also known as indrajit for he had defeated Indra Indra and Hanuman fought ferociously until finally indrajit used his brahmastra and trapped and snared Hanuman then tied him up with ropes and victoriously dragged him back to the court in the court one of rakas generals one of the rakas generals asked him who are you why

are you here Hanuman looked at raan and said oh King of the rakshasas I wanted an audience with you and to get your attention I destroyed the Ashokan your people attacked me and I killed them in self-defense and then Hanuman continued I am Ram's envo Ambassador Ram was staying in the dandak forest together with his wife Sia and brother lakshman and one day sitha went missing see Hanuman does not start aggressively with ravan he starts off in a mild manner he says SAA went missing Rah has formed an alliance with sugri the king of the

vanas thousands of vas are looking for her I'm one of them I I came here and saw her in your garden now you know very well that keeping satha here is not right let her go and then hanuman's tone changed he spoke more forcefully he said remember what happened in Janan you know the entire rakas force was wiped out by Ram he said remember what happened there don't let the same happen here there has never been nor will ever be anyone who can defeat Ram let satha go don't tie the news of death around your

neck ravan exploded in Anger he ordered kill him but his younger brother weishan stepped in and he reminded ravan that an Envoy an ambassador can never be killed he said of course what this wner has done should not go unpunished but you can give him some other punishment ran then thought about it and he had a wicked idea he [Music] said this tale that the wers wear as an ornament is very dear to them see once again he's calling it an ornament something that they could take off but he said it's very dear to them

so set fire to this wner stale and take him around the city this turned back on ran very badly and we'll see this as well in a video raan's men quickly grabbed Hanuman tied strips of cloth around his tail tipped it in oil and set it on fire hanuman's heart was burning with anger poetically he grew his size like a forest fire fed with dry wood the rakasa started pulling at his binds to parade him through the city at first Hanuman resisted but then he thought I have seen Lanka at night now I must see

the city during the day and so as the rasas marched him through the streets and squares of the capital Hanuman went happily along by the way if you are still not sure whether hanuman's tale was real or something that he put on consider this first ravan clearly calls it an ornament banam and second when hanuman's tail was set Al light he was physically not hurt but yes he was wild with rage as he considered this a great insult crowds gathered and watched the spectacle with Glee anuman also watched making careful observations some rakshasis went and

told sitha that the wner she had spoken to was being taken through the streets with his tail on fire saa's heart sank and she prayed for Hanuman to come through this safely when Hanuman reached the gates of the city he saw his chance there was not much of a crowd there he deafly freed himself from the bonds made a surprise attack on his captors and within moments finished them off now he stood there alone at the gates of Lanka his tail burning and he thought what else can I do that will strike at the hearts

of these rasas anuman had noticed earlier that the fire at the end of his tail was not reaching his body the other end of his tail was not hot at all it was like a fire torch and he thought I shall use this torch to set fire to Lanka by now Hanuman knew the layout of the city very well he headed for the quarters that had the Mansions of the senior most rasers he went from one building to the next setting each one Ablaze with his tail and finally he went into Ran's Palace complex and

set it on fire too a breeze was blowing and the fire spread across the city the Flames leapt up and molten gold flowed down from the walls the palacial structures crackled in the Blaze and tumbled to the ground Hanuman roared the rakshasas ran around Helter Skelter trying to save their wealth and their lives they looked at Hanuman and wondered fearfully is he really a wner or is he yamraj the Lord of death by now the whole city was on fire the giant BL was radiant like a Million Suns it was like the fire of dissolution

the end of time and soon Hanuman had reduced the city of Lanka to ashes hanumat [Music] L A that is how it happened so a big blow to the rasas military themed Diplomat yes right you don't view him that way until you read the valmiki ramayan you kind of visualize an AP like Divine being using his taale to burn the whole city yes yes even here notice which parts of the city did he go through the the houses of the senior most rers these are the leaders let's strike fear in their hearts hanuman's uh strength

and power is well known but what a lot of these things bring out is also uh his intelligence his diplomacy uh war strategy and also his singular focus on getting things done I think his message is never give up and that's what comes through in the sundaran after this Hanuman put out the fire on his tail and as he looked at the smoldering ruins of Lanka he was struck by by a fear what about satha what if she was injured or worse in this fire he rushed back to the Ashokan thankfully Sia was safe and

then he came back to the shore and then used the same technique that he had used earlier to go across the ocean nothing said about Ran's reaction no not at to the L burning of Lanka no surely it was a big shock uh to him you know you know this journey across the ocean earlier as well we spoke how there is the Practical description of swimming but also the image of him flying across the sky if he could indeed fly or there was some technology for flight think about this would he not fly straight away

from Ashok one to kishkinda why walk up to the shore go across the ocean and then walk further so he swam back the vanas were waiting for him he went up to angad and jamban and said DHI I met sitha the vanas erupted in Joy this was mission accomplished and then they all uh By the way when Hanuman was describing what all happened back in Lanka it's interesting that when he spoke about sitha he turned towards Lanka and bowed down respectfully uh his meeting with sitha had created a deep impression on him you were asking

me earlier how did the respect and the bond develop over time he had been hugely impressed by how satha was dealing with that terrible condition and then they all came back uh started on their way back towards kishkinda on the way they came to a forest which which was very attractive and enticing for them see this these were troops that had been out on the road for many months they were exhausted and hungry and in this Forest they had plenty of food and wine this was maduan this was a special Grove that belonged to sugri

the king's one and the troops wanted to drink the wine so they asked angad for permission and he consulted shamban and told them to go for it so yeah geographically speaking this is between Tamil Nadu and Karnataka uh between yes between uh dhanush kodia rameshwaram in Tamil Nadu and humpy in Karnataka somewhere in the middle close to humpy by now H okay got you so they went in and started drinking and eating again waliki has described it you know very interestingly G some were singing others were laughing some were dancing they fought with each other

they abused one another pushed each other jumped up and down from rocks and as usually happens after much drinking they created a nuisance too so they started destroying the maduan you know breaking trees breaking pots and the keeper of maduan was one person called theuk theuk first tried to uh convince them to stop he scolded them but instead of listening to him they beat him up and all his guards too and they drank some more theok thought that these guys their days are numbered you know he will go and report this back to sugri and

tell him what is going on and he will surely pronounce the death sentence on them D Muk rushes back to kishkinda sugri is with ram and lakshman he goes and reports what has happened but to his utter shock sugri says I am delighted to hear that I pardon them go and get them quickly see sugri had sent out four teams the north east and west teams had come back in a month and they had not found CA and the South team was late and now the first thing he hears is that they are destroying the

king's uh forest and drinking sugri knew his people well so he knew what the celebrations meant he turned to RAM and lakshman and said the words that they had been waiting to hear D without a doubt they have found SAA why does no one tell us this story soon angad and Hanuman and the others reached kishkinda Hanuman came up to RAM and said sitha is safe see even in these small um dialogues or actions hanuman's intelligence and thinking comes through the first thing he had said to the vanas when he came was I met Sia

but he knew what is the question on SRI Ram's mind is she okay and so the first thing he said was Sia is safe of course Shri Ram wanted to hear it all he he asked where is she how is she tell me everything what did she say Hanuman then gave the ornament that Sia had given for Shri Ram it was an ornament that she had worn on the day of their marriage and once again Ram was overcome with emotion he said SAA had looked so beautiful then and now I have this ornament but she's

not with me what else did she say and then Hanuman told the story that Sia had told him which no one else knew he said in chitra once sitha was resting in your arms you were both asleep a crow suddenly attacked satha repeatedly attacked her on the chest and when you woke up you found that sitha was injured and the crow had blood on its claws sitha says you could not even tolerate that Crow's minor offense against me you had tried to kill the crow in the end you just injured it and let it go

but you could not tolerate that then why are you not saving me now you are the greatest warrior in the world if I mean anything to you you will slay raavan and Destroy these rakshasas that was Sia's message just the message that would fire up SRI RAM and Sia had also told Hanuman that she could not hold on much longer Hanuman had said take courage before long you shall hear the Roar of waras laksh L before long you shall see RAM and lakshman at the gates of Lanka and with those words the fifth book of

the ramayan Sundar comes to an end sundarakandam that is how it happened self-confidence would be the overarching theme Here belief in yourself yes on all levels maita's level sham level Hanuman level obviously yes I think that's what the of this whole podcast was yes and for me it was dedicated to the Vana sitting right next to you yes as is this room so thank you that's uh the end of episode three as well looking forward to the grand finale thank you and in the next episode we will go back across the ocean and uh you

know you may have heard the story of floating rocks but in the valmiki ramayan that is not how it happens in fact satha also asks this question to Hanuman when he says we will all soon be back but she says but how will you cross the ocean and uh at that time Hanuman just says oh don't worry about it you know if I could do it the others can too but we'll see what happens on the crossing of the ocean next time more to uncover yes thank you sir that was the episode 4 today ladies

and gentlemen that was part three of our four-part series the finale releases in 2 days time I I hope that this reaches every single Indian because this retelling of valmiki's ramayan is the only accurate story of the ramayan that may or may not already be known by you over the course of your life this Series has been made with an intention to reach every single Indian so that we move ithas or real Indian history forward through time if you wish to experience an even more detailed version of this retelling do visit yashad sir's YouTube channel

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love to yashad sir and until next time guys sham [Music] oh [Music]