Welcome to the channel "After all, what are we?" Shely is from Brasília, she is a psychopedagogue and also works in academic management. In 2023, she had to undergo surgery. Everything went well during the surgery, but the next day when she went to the bathroom, she felt hot. As she said, she felt her whole body tingle and she fainted, she had an ekm, but that's not all, there is much more, let's get to know her story as we have been doing, we divided this interview into two parts, in the first part she tells us her ekm
and in the second part she tells us the other experiences and also answers our questions, if you like it, please give it a like, share it with your friends, subscribe to the channel, it helps a lot for the message to reach more people, you will love it Enjoy it [Music] Good morning shelle, thank you very much for accepting share with us from the channel After all, we are your near-death experience, in fact, your near-death experiences and many other experiences that I consider very important, I ask you to please tell us what you do where you
are talking about and don't spare us no details because These details are so important that you can't even imagine Thank you very much in advance, the floor is with you, good morning, right, I'm Chell Frazan, I'm speaking from here in the Federal District, I'm a psychopedagogue, I have other training, and I work in an area of academic management, Postgraduate Institute at the moment, but I'm in training to migrate to psychology, right? It's actually good to give a context of what I want to bring and share with you and I just need to make an addendum
before actually getting into what's of interest, right, which are the experiences of almost life or near death or whatever you want to call it, since I was very young, since I was very little, in fact, a voice that is very familiar to me, that is very close to me and that is, in some way, is my trust, has always accompanied me. It's worth mentioning here that I don't have a glimpse of what it's like, the shape or appearance of that voice, but it's a voice that makes a lot of sense to me to listen to
and obey these commands because it's been with me since forever, so in my early childhood, the first experience that I remember with that voice when it was Num Episode in which I was with my family and I had a cousin who lived with us at the time and he was black with dark skin and I had an extremely prejudiced attitude towards him. I was a child at the time and I didn't understand these racial issues very well, right? and I remember that in the episode I had a very prejudiced speech and a very prejudiced attitude
towards him and immediately this voice corrected me and corrected me to the point that I was embarrassed and I needed to call this cousin and cry in tears to ask for forgiveness for everything I had done then Since that time, right? It may be that she has given me other commands or other guidance before, but what I remember was there between the ages of 5 and 6, right? It's also interesting that I say that even at that time of the first childhood, this same voice brought me information that I think is relevant to bring here
because it was about something that would happen here physically and I remember that one morning I was sitting on my bed talking to someone who visited me and this someone started bringing me information about some things and talking regarding a brother on my father's side, this brother lived here with us in Brasília during a period of his life and in another period. They left, they were a couple, a brother and a sister. They went away to Manaus and when they returned a few months ago, months later I had this voice that gave me some information
and told me about many things but what is important to highlight here is that this voice gave me the information Look, tomorrow it's after lunch time Around lunch you will receive a call to talk about the almizinho almizinho was my brother's name and I remember that I continued that conversation and slept and in fact this information came true, it was that time, right ? very expensive It was high cost and we had the habit of those who had a landline telephone, right for those who were not from that time, we had a landline telephone and
it was common for the neighbors they shared the telephone number so that we could receive these messages and this neighbor received this message, she called my mother and everything and the news was that my brother had passed away, he had been in a car accident, he had a head injury and did not survive the surgery and it was exactly the information that I was told that I would receive news about my little brother but I didn't worry because he was very good at punctuating this, this voice since then, since my childhood it has accompanied me
and given me guidance, eh, I think that It's important here to just say that I don't activate this voice when I want, that's not how it works, it talks to me when it wants and gives me guidance, advice and tells me things I need to do or decisions that it would be better for me to make, it suggests some things to me. things and sometimes when I got angry I said no, I'm not going to do it, I literally broke my face, so when the cat is scalded, he's afraid of cold water, right? I'd rather
not dare not listen and not pay attention to these guidelines and in 2023 to be more specific, I had a situation, you know, a medical emergency and that was caused by a tubal ligation that I had, which was not conventional, so I had been doing gynecological follow-ups since 2021, monitoring my health more closely and everything and I I wasn't in good health, so I had been experiencing anemia from recurring infections for some time and when it was in the middle of 2022, when I did all my exams, my exams all came back altered and The
doctor who attended to me, the gynecologist who attended to me, informed me that I urgently needed a replacement there because I had low ferritin, low ceric iron. I needed to undergo a treatment there with norp puru in the vein, but it ended in me going into a hemorrhagic period and even though I was undergoing this treatment with noripurum and everything and that was no longer adequate, it was just palliative and I obligatorily needed to undergo a total surgery and after doing all the exams and Ok, wait for the whole process, in 2023, in February, my
surgery was scheduled, so I was already in a pre-hemorrhagic period, with risk, right, so I needed to operate as soon as possible, but physically, I was a little weak due to During this pre-hemorrhagic period, the pain was intense and all this inconvenience arising from this situation, but the fact that I had to have surgery caused me discomfort. In what sense was it as if I had felt that something was going to happen? It was like it was a feeling, I'm not going to say it was fear, it wasn't fear, but it was a feeling of
my God, I'm feeling like there's something wrong, there's something that's going to happen, it was an affliction, right? I think this word fits here It was an affliction but it was just mine I couldn't share it with anyone I felt distressed I found myself distressed and with that feeling that the surgery is coming, the surgery is coming Oh what a situation that insecurity and the surgery was scheduled on February 28th and I have a birthday the first of March, so when it was on the 27th of February, when it wasn't on the 26th, which was
on Sunday, I decided to have a family lunch to bring everyone together and my family is a lot, right, everyone is very together and mixed, and so, nephew, brother, no I don't know who had that party and then we had this lunch here but in my heart it was as if I wanted to say goodbye to everyone because it was as if I knew something was going to happen but I didn't say anything to anyone So I wanted to pass I wanted time with my family like that I shouldn't hug, I shouldn't kiss, I shouldn't,
I love you to no one, I wanted to be there with them at that moment and go to that surgery knowing that if there was anything else to happen, everything would be fine, you know, it's a duty done, let's say, and Ok, lunch happened it was really cool and finally I was very confident about the surgery despite this internal distress and I was admitted, the surgery happened and it was a success Ok everything was fine the other day after the surgery I received all the instructions to start walking because you need to be discharged because
the hospital environment is highly contaminating and It's not cool for you to undergo surgery and stay there, so the ideal is for you to recover at home and there I received the instructions the next day 40 and 24 hours after the surgery and I went to the bathroom with the help of my husband who was with me and there talking to him about trivial things in life we were there chatting and so on, I don't know what he there accompanying me because I was still like that, you know, a little weak after having just undergone
surgery. But it was ok, I finished using the bathroom and everything and I was getting ready to go back to the hospital bed, finally, to have breakfast, etc., and so on, and I started. feeling like it was a heat that came from my feet and went up to the top of my head and when I started to feel this heat, my body started to tingle as if it were like that, I was falling asleep and then I said PR, he said, look, I'm passing As soon as I managed to tell him that I was feeling
ill and I even told him I said this and put water on my face because it felt hot, it was very hot, it was as if my skin was burning, something along those lines and then he was looking at me and I said so I'm feeling sick I think I'm going to faint I only remember that far and I remember that I heard a lot from afar and my vision started to go out I heard a lot from afar him calling for help, right and as soon as I started to hear a lot of far
away, it's as if there was a blackout, my vision went out and what went out was a feeling of comfort You know that feeling when you're sleeping in a nice, warm bed and you take a blanket and wrap yourself up and stay there Relax, it was that feeling that I really felt that way It was pitch black and that good feeling started like this, you know, when it hugs you to the point where you know how to sigh Oh, what a good feeling, when I felt that, I wasn't there anymore, I was already in an
environment where there was a dense fog, it was as if it were It doesn't happen like that. When you travel to the place you are from and you pass through the mountains and it's very early in the morning and there's that fog where you can't see anything, it was like that was a very dense fog where I couldn't see anything and the good feeling but tailored As I was walking, it was as if the nerve was opening up in the perception of what I could look at close by, not far away, and that pleasant feeling
of comfort of Warm comfort And then I realized I was passing my hand over something And then my view hey, he looked at what I was passing my hand over and it was a garden but what caught my attention was that it wasn't a garden like the ones we normally see, the leaves were black and shiny, they had a luminescence that came out of them, it was like if it were like this leaves illuminated with their own light But it wasn't just that I passed my hand and the leaves they had as if they were
dew so they were moist, right and as I passed my hand it was as if I felt a sensation that the leaf was talking to me I don't know if this will make sense but the feeling I had was that those foliage I was passing my hand to were talking to me welcome and I was there talking to them You are beautiful I looked at that color PR PR that PR format that light that came out of that foliage black and for me it was all very incredible because it was very beautiful and very different
from what I'm used to seeing and I was enchanted by it and curious and it's important for me to say that I'm very very curious, I have a curiosity that sometimes I I say that, my God, why are you so curious, girl, but I'm very curious and I remember that it caught my attention and I was very intrigued and wanted to know the details and see the details of that foliage and I realized that in the middle of that black foliage that had its own light and that somehow spoke to me there were flowers but
they were very different flowers they were violet colored flowers and the color that came to me when I looked at it and focused on it was Amethyst eh it was a color that infiltrated the purple but it was at the same time that it seemed to be a flower, it looked like it was a crystal, it was a color that had a shine that shone and was different and I looked at it with so much joy because it was so beautiful, so beautiful that I wanted to see it but I wanted to know where it
was going and that path It opened and I walked in my perception I was walking and I was going to get somewhere even though there was Neva and I in front I couldn't see much beyond what I was walking and from afar, as if there was someone right behind me, coming from behind, I started to hear Shelly come back, but I really wanted to hear the voice, I wasn't kind of ignoring the voice, I didn't want much to talk. with that voice I wanted to know what was there and find out what else was there
in that Garden and I remember that the voice started to get more insistent and closer as it got more insistent closer I kind of started an argument then I let me be, I can see here I want to know that discussion like No, I don't want to talk to you now leave me and it got closer as the voice got closer, I started to take the focus off what I was looking at and pay attention to the voice and the voice said like this Shelly doesn't come back she was emphatic she doesn't come back when
I went to try to argue with the voice at that moment she was more emphatic and I stopped paying attention to what was around me poof blackout everything went pitch black and then I went yes, little by little feeling of discomfort it wasn't pain but it was the discomfort of it's a body that hurts a body that's bothering a body that isn't sort of in place And then I felt like I came back and then I started to hear the nurse talking to me and Shelly Shelly looks at I open my eyes but the moment
I became aware of this I opened my eyes very tired it was as if it was like this you know when it seems like you are going to close a container that has an airtight lid that you have to do that and that click to be able to fact, it's closed, it was as if it hadn't clicked, as if it hadn't clicked, I was kind of uncomfortable And then I felt extremely tired, sleeping after I woke up, I was actually here now, right? Talking to my husband, saying, you gave me a scare You passed out
with your eyes open you were cold and colorless anyway and from what they told me my blood pressure dropped a lot and I fainted but it was a fainting spell that took a little longer than expected normal, ok this happened and then I was 100% I was discharged I went home I told some people in my family about this and I was really excited because the colors and the sensation everything was very vivid and I needed to talk people I saw a garden like that and so on and everyone else flowers like that, the black
leaf is but the light came out so I was very excited commenting on all this and as soon as I left that I was discharged the information came to me from that voice that that place was the valley of shadow and Death and me Ah okay ok, here's some information that I didn't question, but life is going on fine. I immediately realized that, oh, that affliction that I was feeling before I actually had the surgery, that could be what I was going to go through, through this experience, in this different Garden. And so on, I
was happy with that and ok, life goes on, I continued my recovery, which was going very well, by the way, I went through the consultations, doing everything right, cute, as per the script, right, and 24 days after the operation, I had a problem. In the morning, I had coffee as usual, I took all my medications and I had already gone to my return appointment with the doctor, the stitches removed. I was heading towards a nice evolution, but on that day specifically, March 22nd, my surgery was on February 27th, 2023. on March 22nd, when after drinking
coffee I started to have a feeling of discomfort, first I had dysentery without any explanation and then I started to have intestinal pain and after take all the medications that were common, right? I said so, oh, I'm going to lie down for a bit because sometimes, you know, it's gas and everything and I had that feeling, I don't want to bother anyone because I'm already like this, I've just had surgery, people are worrying about me, let's go I'm going to lie down for a bit, I'm going to rest and finally try Because if it's gas,
the medicine will take effect and everything's fine , right? body and, well, the improvement finally didn't go away and then I was like this with that regret of wow, am I going to go to the hospital Am I not going to go And then I remember that I had a dr with that voice and I said this and then am I going to go to the hospital? hospital Did I I'm not going to do what I'm going to do, I don't want to bother anyone and then I kind of got into that conversation and now
is this pain that I'm feeling, this discomfort, something that I need to worry about and you just guided me, send me in contact with the doctor and I contacted my doctor who performed my surgery and then he informed me that he was not on duty that day for me to take the medications but I said I had already taken all the medications and he asked how long I had informed him. and I had very little time, I couldn't take it again, you know, because I had little time and it hadn't had any effect, I said,
look, do the following, go to the nearest hospital, take all your documents, exams, inform the hospital that you just had surgery You've just had surgery and you're telling me the news as soon as he advised me I still thought I'm not going to wait a little longer because I don't think it's that long, right? Going to the hospital and everything like that, creating a commotion because of gas, right? head I thought that was it and while I was in this expectation and thinking wait, shelle, let's breathe, shall we, let's do a belly massage and so
on, the pain increased to such an extent that I could no longer put my foot on the ground and I remember that the voice told me like, go to hospital I already left the room and went towards my husband already crying and I'm not one to cry, at least in pain I have a resistance to pain and for me to cry I have to be in a lot of pain and I was already crying to the pranas asking For him, please take me to the hospital, I have a lot pain we did as the doctor
instructed us on the way he called the doctor talking to the doctor and said look this pain is not normal take it to the hospital go as quickly as possible We arrived at the hospital I actually couldn't walk and there as soon as I passed the The doctor did a touch exam on my abdomen and I collapsed, the pain was unbearable, I went on medication, right? And there on medication I started to feel very ill and at that moment of medication that feeling of heat in my body came again from my feet up to the
head and tingling I told my husband I'm feeling sick I blacked out and I don't remember what happened but when I came back I was already in the red room the red room is like a pre ICU that's when you finally start to collapse and you need to have an emergency care before actually going to an ICU I went to the red room and I remember that when I woke up in that room The feeling I had was Why are people so agitated it was as if I looked at all that and thought what What's
going on, everyone is agitated, nervous, because I had a feeling of strangeness with the way people were, as if they were in agony and agitated, fearful, but at the same time I had the feeling that Oops, something is wrong here Wait, where am I, what's happening here, it was a strange feeling actually and then I remember that there in that red room the doctor came in a few times and talked to my husband and everything and she talked to me about some things and I you weren't understanding very well everything that was happening but I
knew there was something going on and then I remember that I blacked out again and when I came back she had already given me some guidance, she already had a nasogastric tube because I was vomiting a lot and she gave me some guidance that I needed to have a tomography urgently and that I needed to try to hold back the vomiting, I did this tomography and I remember that after I came back from that tomography she was even more alarmed as if she had been like this I needed to do something and there I was
transferred to the ICU between the room red is ICU I blacked out again I don't know what happened but most likely I lost my senses there and finally my blood pressure dropped and what they say is that I had a my blood pressure dropped a lot and then I went to the ICU and Ali in the In the ICU, I received information that I needed to be transferred to another hospital where there was a specialist in all this part, right gastric, all this abdominal part because I had an acute intestinal obstruction and dry Volvo That
was the diagnosis, finally I was transferred to another hospital also in the same network where there was this specialist who already had a medical team ready to receive me and finally deal with my entire case, which seemed to me to be very urgent and when I arrived at that hospital I went to the most serious ICU in that hospital and at first no one could stay with me and the doctor received me and it was a lot of pain, it was pain that I was there the whole time, the voice talking to me, resist, don't
give in, eh, breathe, everything will be okay, it was as if someone was there accompanying me the whole time and talking to me, giving me commands to that I needed to be aware and had There were times when I spoke with that voice I spoke like this but it hurts a lot I don't know what to do I can't handle it and I say this breathe calmly Take a deep breath stay conscious don't give in to the pain and it was this dialogue the whole time and then I entered on a Wednesday, Wednesday to Thursday
and I stayed until Friday, you know, in that conflict and in that anxiety and in that agony and in that pain and when it was time for the visit, the visitors were with me, there was my husband and a very dear friend for sign there accompanying me in that moment of visit and the doctor came in and came to give us the prognosis, the diagnosis and how the whole situation was going to go and he came to give me the information, he actually gave us the information that I would need to go for surgery that
everything that was possible could be done. in a less invasive way, let's say it had already been done but they couldn't wait any longer because there was a risk of having a perforation in my intestine, some kind of necrosis, something along those lines and making it even worse. my painting is there he gave me everything that ABC Plan could be done, anyway, how was this surgery going to go, and everyone was really scared and I was there. How can I say, I was somewhere else, I saw everyone there in that situation, I knew they were
passing on important information, I I absorbed information but at the same time I was managing something else, I was there at my doctor with my voice talking to her and I was trying to understand what was happening and how I needed to act in that situation and It's funny because my perception is that people, despite of being very agitated, it seemed like they were like this, slow motion, like everything was very slow, everything was very slow, right? And at the same time, very agitated, very confusing and it caused me a lot of strangeness because I
thought that's what all this is for, people. Calm down, okay , let's calm down the environment here and so on. At the same time, my body was in pain and was crying out for something to happen, so that the pain would finally go away, and given the scenario and what the doctor said, he looked at me and gave me information that I needed to go to the hospital. surgical center and everything and asked me and then chelly is ready and I'm Ok, let's go, I was just I wasn't even paying attention to that I Anyway,
I don't know, do what you want, I'm here concentrating on something else and I was there, the voice talking with m fal Look Just be grateful Don't worry Just be grateful and I was really there to be grateful So I went down to the surgical center there thanking me, thanking me for the doctors, thanking me for medicine, thanking those who would be there in the surgical center, thanking me for my family, thanking me for the time I spent I had a life until then because I didn't know if I was going to leave or not
but I wanted to say thank you, that's all I wanted. So I actually went there, paying all my debts and bills, right? I went there saying thank you, asking for forgiveness, and somehow there saying goodbye to that scenario until then saying look if this is what I had so far so I'm very grateful and that I can leave something for whoever stays if I don't come back so I was very aware of that and I was very happy because I said that Man I know there's something more than that here so let's face it head
on and I went and then the surgery happened and I don't remember anything at all and when I woke up I woke up in a very cold place and I remember that I woke up like this thinking Wow, did I die and then I remember that the First thing I thought was Shell, if you died you must not have a body, right? So see, you have a body. I remember that I touched myself and when I touched myself I felt that I had one. my leg and said Oops, am I dead because it was such
a strange place and I said, am I in the morgue and dead and I'm thinking what do you mean and then I remember it was very cold And then I saw a nurse coming in and I I said, I'm dead, she's not, darling, you're alive, but why are those questions you have so cold, something like, I'm there, I'm here, I don't know when you come back from general anesthesia and then I remember that she was finally there. still very tired too then If it was me, I was kind of wavering when I recovered again, I
was already in the ICU room but it was very cold, very cold to the point where the person who was assisting me had to bring a heater to try to stabilize the cold that I was feeling Ok, well, if I finally went through the surgery and I found out that it was a success, besides the obstruction, I found an appendix that was inflamed in that whole lump and But everything went well And then after the surgery, what's the intention? Ok, you're fine, so let's eat, shall we, life goes on dear? Bye from here, that was
more or less what the expectation was, but when the food came, I couldn't eat, I couldn't drink, it was as if nothing was working, I had diarrhea that was inexplicable. and I couldn't ingest absolutely anything and the doctors thought it was very strange because the surgery had been a success so far, but what was even stranger was that I had the feeling that my body wasn't working and that something was wrong and at the same time time I had the feeling that I It was me and I'm going to try to explain this in a
more pedagogical way, so to speak, it was as if I were two, me, my body, which doesn't want to obey, doesn't want to work, and I, my conscience, understanding everything that's happening and trying to tell my body, it works. it works and there was a voice, it was the three of us, right, my body, my body, my conscience, and the voice all the time talking, Shelly gives command to your body, tells the cells to work, in your stomach, in your intestine, tells your intestine to work, and gives command to this water that is coming in
so it stays in the your stomach was more or less like that. It seems crazy, but what am I going to say, everyone has their own, right, normality and there in that situation I remember that I, my body, my consciousness, we were there, kind of We weren't getting along very well, one wanted one thing the other wanted another , my body wanted to stay still and my conscience wanted my body to respond and the voice spoke Shelly Tell your body to obey Tell it that it has to work and I was there talking and It's
interesting because all the time in this process hey, grandma was there with me and telling me things that I needed to do and I obeyed, of course, and I spent the days after the surgery in the ICU and it was like a struggle because the medicines weren't having any effect, I couldn't eat anything at all, I started to to lose weight I went for a parenteral tube, anyway, instead of improving after a successful surgery, it was getting worse and worse that had no explanation, right, and nausea and vomiting, anyway, one of the things the voice
told me was that I couldn't complete 10 days in that place that I needed to react that I needed to leave before completing 10 days and I desperately said how am I going to do it ? in the morning when I woke up and I actually saw that I'm alive, right? I was very happy, of course, and the voice spoke to me like this. Do you remember what day it is, I don't know what day it is, I just know that I'm alive. I remember that I I said to the voice So, I don't know
what day it is, I'm alive, I was happy because I woke up, right, I'm alive, I don't know what day it is, and AV said, today is your wedding anniversary, so I know, when you connect the information, it's really today, it's my birthday. marriage and the voice spoke to Mig like this, I said like this, today I close the 17-year sowing cycle and I begin the harvest cycle and I heard that, I understood that and I got that information and I started like that, wow, how cool today is mine wedding anniversary How cool, I'm alive,
right? The surgery was a success. Everything went well. And then my husband arrived in the morning at the exchange to take over. right, the care there after the surgery and he arrived talking like this, thinking himself, right, the last coke in the desert Hi, good morning, your gift arrived and thinking Comim, wow, if you think my gift is my gift, it's him anyway, and then OK, and the voice there hey with me and giving me some guidance and when she gave me this specific guidance that I couldn't complete 10 days in that place I started
to question How do I do it then because I don't understand the medication isn't having any effect I literally had DRS with that voice all the time because she told me things that didn't make sense to me but that I needed to do and I did them but I wasn't seeing any improvement so the voice started giving me strategies and started telling me I was in a diaper, bed-ridden in an ICU, I was weak and started to Talking to me, asking me to go to the bathroom, it didn't make any sense for me to go
to the bathroom because I was wearing a diaper and I wasn't even able to control my needs, I looked like there, I usually say I looked like a duck, nothing was going in but everything was coming out and I said ok I'm going to the bathroom So you're telling me to go I'm going and I started asking take me to the bathroom it doesn't make any sense you're wearing a diaper no please take me to the bathroom and I started to go and the voice said do exercise get up get up exercise at the foot
of the bed he calls the physiotherapist and asks me to do exercise and I started to do that and I actually started to do that And then I remember that I started to do this process and the medication still had no effect but I kept insisting and at the same time giving command to my body you need to function you will function you need to react intestine you have to act cells please work here together because my intestine needs to return to my stomach and giving order to my body even to my cells so that
it reacts and doing exercise and talking like this Come on, muscle, help me, I need to get out of here, I have to get out of here, you can't control yourself, body, you will obey me, and there in that fight, and I remember that it's a specific day, I think on the seventh, eighth day, the physiotherapist was passing by there in the morning, I She was already standing Are you doing it standing up? I said, I want to, I want to walk, I want to exercise, she, you're excited, I said, Woman, I want to run
a marathon, let's help me there, with that excitement physically, I was weak but I was very strong, my mind was very strong. I was spiritually very strong, very determined to get out of there as the voice was guiding me and I remember that I was very distressed, I wanted to go to the bathroom all the time, I wanted to walk all the time, I wanted to exercise even when the physiotherapist didn't I was there, I was there, making some movements like lifting my little foot, raising my little hand and trying to somehow go around the
bed but without staying still and when it was on the ninth day I was desperate I said, my God, I can't go 10 days here today is the ninth day I have to leave I remember that on the eighth day I had a conversation with and with the doctor and with the nurse talking I said please I'm fine let me go and they said like this look chelly you need to go to the room we are waiting for a vacancy in the room to release you from al we can see that you are improving you
are fine Let's send some test food here and so on they did the test with liquid, you know, coconut water a little bit and I remember I looked at that coconut water say coconut water you will stay here in this stomach and I said stomach you will hold this coconut water because I need to get out of here and I'm going to get out of here and I remember that there and determined to leave I held that test coconut water and then they sent it a pasty liquid test food and I'm talking like this with
that food I said, food, I need a quarter of you here in my body, I'm not going to eat it all, but you need to stay here and there, I did it and they saw that I was improving, but they wanted to send me to my room, I didn't want to. go to the room I wanted to go to my house I wanted to get out of there And then I remember that they say like that, no Shelly you don't understand you need to go to the room the protocol is leave the ICU go to
the infirmary or to the apartment and then you are discharged I said no, you don't understand well and there was no space in the room and my attempt was to circumvent this protocol and to say that, discharge me for the love of God, I just need to leave, anyway, I am in agony with them so much, I insisted so much, I think I upset them so much. their idea that when it was on the ninth day I was there from early on I was going there I was going here I was going there I was
going here I followed let's walk let's walk woman don't be quiet let's walk for the love of God I want to walk I think I wanted a lot to show ises that I was fine to the point of this failure so this girl is giving me hell send her away bye and then I spoke to the nurse please let her go I'm fine I'm great woman I do abdominals I run I do the If you want, just send me away, we reached an agreement and the head of the ot said, look, I'll release you with
the following exception. If you sign a term and if you do a physical exercise protocol of soft food, etc., he gave it to me. so one one a bunch of instructions that I needed to follow and how I wanted to leave If he told me to do sit-ups, do what he said, I did it, I just wanted to leave and then we signed the terms and my class left at the end of the day right, about 4 o'clock in the afternoon I remember that I told my sister my sister called my husband and I said
this Tell him to bring any clothes any shoes just come that I need to leave I was so happy but so distressed that I left the room From the altar I was like in the hallway waiting the thing about the clothes arriving when the clothes arrived I got dressed and went to the door and then the nurse said no you can't leave I need to get authorization go there no to the room no I want to stay here I want to get some air I wanted to go away if there was a window, I had
to jump But anyway, and then she came with permission, when she arrived with permission, she said, come on, you have to sit, right, in the wheelchair, I said no, I'm walking , I need to walk, and I had to walk because the voice said to me like this you have to leave walking you can't leave in a wheelchair you're going to walk out of here I said ok I'm going to walk and I did exactly as she said And then when we left because they take us outside the hospital to the reception right next to
outside eh When my husband signaled that he was going to turn the car around and I did so no I went to the car and I actually walked to the car and I got in when I got in the car my strength ran out and I slept until I got home and I remember that when I arrived at home the voice spoke to Mig like this, I said you wouldn't be able to handle it because your body is very weak so you needed to leave before completing the 10 days, anyway this happened and I remember
that and I was still recovering these 10 days later, yeah at home, right, still with some weaknesses, drinking a little water, using liquid to pasty food, using a diaper, but it was a tremendous recovery because I was very weak, but being at home gave me a different energy and that's what I think is important So, it is important to highlight that there in the ICU I had some experiences that were not so pleasant, so if I can say so, there were moments when I felt a presence that entered that room, especially in the early hours
of the morning, and it was a presence that was paired with my body, so if I was lying down, the presence paired with my body and that presence started to pull my energy, it was as if the energy was coming out of my foot and it was very difficult to resist that because I was extremely tired and I needed to fight against what entered there in that room to stay lucid to stay awake, but it was a constant struggle and I was already getting very tired of it because, for anyone who has ever stayed in
an ICU, the equipment keeps monitoring, and there are lights that stay on, you can't sleep, at least I can't. I couldn't relax, I couldn't sleep because the environment is very oppressive, if that's the word I can use, it's a very tense environment all the time, so I couldn't relax in that place and I couldn't really rest my body, my body needed rest to relax. recover and I don't I was able to do that in that environment, after I was discharged, eh? I was recovering, right? Little by little, but the feeling I had and that lasted
for a long time was that I was connected to something bigger And then I remember that on the days of my recovery, I have my nephews in my house like this, they have the habit of to say that I'm the plants' aunt because after Covid I started taking care of plants, right ? yard and all and on the days of my recovery I used to sit there a lot in the Garden contemplating the plants there and I talk to the plants, okay, I think it's important to highlight that I talk, I say good morning to
them, there are days when they talk to me . So and then, my little cutie, let's go Wake up, what is this? You're boring, anyway, I have my conversations with the little plants and they react, they respond to me in their own way and everything is fine, and then I remember that I was there in the chair there catching that sunny air and looking at the sun looking at the sky And thanking you for everything you gave me because I know that despite everything that happened there is a greater purpose and it's really cool because
I always liked looking at the sky the sky brings me a connection let's say it brings me a feeling of belonging, a feeling that there is something greater that there is something that I don't know how to explain but that generates me a longing that generates a feeling of completeness, let's say and I really enjoy having these moments of looking at the sky and to connect with something that I know It's part of me, I don't know, I have a feeling, I've always had a feeling that I'm in the wrong place and at the wrong
time and I've always felt like a fish out of the aquarium and in those moments when I'm very distressed or very distressed or very much in need of a warm comfort looking at the sky Anchors me looking at the sky makes me understand that I need to endure when I say this in the sense that I have a feeling that it is very costly It costs me a lot it's here here in that time now but it's a costly one which is an excuse which is necessary and when I look at the sky somehow it
calms me because it gives me the feeling that I need to hold on a little longer I need to hold on a little longer because there is something bigger and that my presence here is still necessary, you know And then, in the face of this event , I was always very connected, you know, but I think that after that I started to look at life in a different way, I don't make plans for tomorrow, I live today, I I live here I live now I try being here in a very intentional way, present for my
present for the people around me and trying to make a difference and build a legacy, if I can say that and after this event, as I said, the voice was always there, it never went away, but it It's not like Hey, talk to me, no, she talks when she wants, she talks when I need it or when she wants to give me some guidance and it's been like that throughout my life and I think it's also important to report that last year and it's something that I think it's interesting, I don't know if everyone is
like this, but I I have dreams that I usually say are series my husband says, wow, I don't know how you dream so much, my dreams have seasons, first, second and third, and I have dreams that I don't like to use the word dream because it seems like it's one thing unreal, it's not that, it's more than a dream, you know, it's an experience that I don't know how to explain with the vocabulary I have because my vocabulary is too poor to explain what I need and explain, but let's say that they are dreams, right,
to make it more understandable It's in these dreams I usually have visions of things that will happen or things that are told to me from instructions anyway and when it was in August of the year 2024 I had one of those experiences one of those dreams where I saw things that were explained to me I'm going to try to talk about it in a very playful way because eh There are so many details and far from me wanting to say that it's something or that it's nothing, I don't have the technical capacity or training for
that, I'm just going to say what was shown to me in the best possible way, so this is a vision in this dream I saw myself in a room as if it were a room in a studio, you know, a backstage room, let's say, I don't know if it makes sense, but as if it were a very large screen with small screens, many small screens. In fact it was a giant screen but with many small screens showing a lot of information at the same time on these small screens and when I stood in front of
this screen it was as if a lot of information was coming through and on these small screens it was as if newspapers and TV news were being shown there but of many different types at the same time as if there was a monitoring room, so to speak, with several small screens And then I looked at it, I didn't understand it very well and this voice that always accompanies me was also there giving me some instructions telling me some things and then when I saw that it said oh but questioning what this is because I'm watching
this and the voice was telling me Pay attention You're going to need this, you're going to need to understand what I'm showing you and there that big screen that had several small screens turned into one screen where the map appeared there world and it appeared to me like this big extended like the world map and when it appeared there it was as if someone had pinched the screen, it doesn't exist when you have a touch screen that you can open and close it was more or less this technology and there is that screen it opened
and I saw the Asian region of the Asian continent opened. Then it was on the world map and there it opened and that screen was generated where it focused on the Asian region. When I saw this, I looked at it without really understanding what that meant. but I was very focused, paying attention and my vision was as if it were her when you look like this from above and it is the region aaa Asia and there that vision was kind of three-dimensional I can say like this because it was as if it were a satellite
view So it showed the relief as if it were the actual relief of that geography, right, when that appeared I immersed myself in that 3D visualization and I went to a very deep layer at the level of tectonic plates, in this very deep layer where I saw the tectonic plates I started to seeing these plates hitting each other, rubbing with a lot of force but with a lot of force and this friction of these plates started to generate waves, it's as if it were like that to make it more understandable when you throw a pebble
into the lake and it starts generating those successions of waves, this friction between these plates generated this succession of waves, but this was in a very deep, very deep layer of the earth. When I saw this, I saw information about megaton explosions, but I wasn't understanding anything because there was a lot of technical information and I remember that I said that but why are you telling me all this I don't have the necessary training to understand this I don't understand it's a lot I'm going to forget I won't be able to keep all this and
I remember that I was I was very desperate because there was a lot of information, there were a lot of things and I was afraid that I wouldn't be able to keep everything in because there were a lot of details And then I remember that I looked at that explosion, I looked at that information that they were megaton explosions and I saw that in this deep layer This friction awakened a volcano that it was dormant But this explosion that came from below came from a very deep layer and I saw it as if that were
the case, the larvae generating and rising as if in a funnel and causing this volcano to awaken when this happened I began to argue with the voice said like this, you don't understand, I won't be able to keep it all in mind, it's a lot, you're showing me too many things, I'm not able to absorb everything, the voice said to me so wake up as if it were very simple and say it like this, then wake up and write it down she said so But as I said, wake up, write down, I woke up and
then I went to my cell phone and started putting key words to everything I was seeing because I needed to do it in a very quick time, it was like I was in a hurry to make these notes. So I actually woke up here physically, I really woke up, I took my cell phone and started putting words there so that I could later remember what I was seeing and then I went back to sleep and I continued that's why I say that mine, anyway, my dreams are series with seasons , so in season two, coming
back, I continued to see that and there in that friction and the voice told me that I needed to pay attention, continue paying attention there, I was already out of that 3D vision and I went up and continued looking and as if it were the view of the world map but looking from above and there it showed me as if it were, you know, sea currents as if it were sea currents and the voice showed me the most sea currents and making that turn, for example, if the current turns from right to left, He started
to show me that the sea current was going to rotate to the other side, it was going to do the opposite movement, so to speak, so He started to show me the sea currents being changed So if it rotates to the right side it would start to rotate to the left side, you know, it's like changing the rotation of these sea currents and I started to see that and it was like I started to see the ocean and I saw that these currents they changed in such a way that the sea current that was bathing
the ocean, the Asian continent, began to rotate and this water, this current, began to go to the Atlantic Ocean and bathe the coast of South America, and consequently, of Brazil, the coast Brazilian And then it sent me information that the volume of water was going to increase and that and then a percentage appeared to me 40% I saw information that the volume of water was going to increase and I saw information 40% and then I started looking at that and I said, oh my god, what's happening and everything at the same time, volcano, tectonic plate,
sea current, volume of water in Brazil, coast of the continent and in America, and there I was as if I hadn't already been looking at that screen, I I had already had a view like this from a high place and I began to see it as if it were a wave coming but it wasn't a wave with a bang or noise, it wasn't something very silent but with an increase in volume that was very substantial to the point of the level the water rose so much that people would be taken by surprise and then I
would go back to that subdivided screen with several small screens where I was already starting to see news coming in all languages about disasters that were going to happen and specifically here when it talks about the Costa do Brasil, the Brazilian coast, cities that were bathed for this volume of water but an enormous volume of water to the point of covering some cities and it was desperate because people would be caught by surprise and I had a feeling of distress trying to talk like that, my God, they won't give people time Hey, get ready because
it's something that's going to come quickly and it's something that's going to take everyone by surprise and then I woke up and then when I woke up I tried to absorb all this information and I confess that I was very scared but also very dismayed because the feeling I knew that many people would be affected by this succession of disasters and that caused me a lot of distress, it caused me a lot of anguish in the sense of thinking that something could be done, if there is something that could be done so that the damage
was minimal, anyway, I didn't I know if It's [Music] that's the perception I have but it's like it's like this, there's no way to escape it but it's going to happen but maybe some people can manage not to go through it, you know, so that was it, and after that, I continue, you know, having these guidelines, lucid dreams. I don't know what people want to call it, but at some times they are more punctual and more specific. I think it's important for me to also report that, uh, I received Clara guidance, it wasn't my will
, but I received Clara guidance, which I needed to share and I was directed to look for this means of communication this channel to share this I think that's it, don't forget to watch the second part of Chelly's interview where she tells us other experiences and also answers our questions. The link is available for you up here and also in the video description if If you liked it, please subscribe to our channel, give likes, make comments , share with your friends, ring the bell so you always know as soon as a new video arrives and
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