Incredibly Efficient: AMD RX 9070 GPU Review & Benchmarks vs. 9070 XT, RTX 5070

this is the 970 non XT it's supposed to be $550 for MSRP at least the XT is $600 so that makes the XT about 9% more expensive they are really close to each other for pricing it it looks kind of like an upsell but the 970 actually remains really interesting on its own and it's not actually for a reason that we expected it's not even because it stands up really well when you put it down that way although that is quite impressive first of all in some of our efficiency tests when looking at performance per watt it nearly tied for the most efficient GPU this seems to be in the so-called sweet spot of power and performance in what would be a huge upset favoring AMD the fact that it's starting to chip away at one of nvidia's key areas of competition is huge the reason for that is simply because the 970 pulls a lot less power than the 970 XT by percentage but most of the performance remains and so for the quickest possible version of the performance between these two cards the 970 XT versus the 970 in our testing has the XT model in the range of 9 to 16% better at 4K and 1440p rasterized again against the 9070 typically it's about 11 to 133% in the game swe we did I think we did 10 games uh rasterized and then we did another site with rt at 1080p it is 6% to 15% better for the XT versus the non-xt mostly around 9 to 11% uh for the games we tested now as for the 5070 it's not looking good for NVIDIA not that it looked good for NVIDIA when they got on stage and said this 490 performance at at 549 that really was the nail in the coffin before the 5070 even launched except this time Jensen Juan was holding the hammer I guess anyway versus nvidia's RTX card you shouldn't buy at 4K and Riz the 970 leads the 570 by 0 to 18% depending on the game it has one loss in Final Fantasy and it has losses in some rate tracing test but not all of them that's also interesting the 507 is basically out of the conversation so at this point we're left with the discussion of the 970 XT versus the 970 which is probably what AMD wants that is what Nvidia wants cuz Nvidia has done Nvidia minus $50 for like all of its pricing where it has a card every 50 to 100 bucks uh AMD meanwhile has switched from Nvidia minus $50 to AMD minus $50 so uh that makes this a different discussion than it might otherwise have been now this might be partly due to yields if they're yielding enough that the XT is readily available and they want to create an upsell that might be a motive for it we don't really care what the reasoning is it's irrelevant to us what we care about is as a consumer which one should you buy and really does it doesn't make any sense uh to either spend the extra 50 or save the extra 50 depending on which one you're looking at so that's all we really care about here and that's what we're going to get into today so let's get to the review before that this video is brought to you by the montac hyperflow series of liquid coolers the montac hyperflow aims to compete with other 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speedrun here for a few reasons one is we just talked about the 970 XD a lot of that information matches with the 9070 except for the performance and the second reason is I haven't gotten to sleep because there's non-stop Hardware chaos or launches I mean it's a good problem to have I love working on this stuff it's been a really fun week but also uh I am going to die so I need to get through this review and then sleep but it's a really interesting card the basics architecturally match the XT so the 9070 still benefits from the rate tracing changes that amds made that was the sort of biggest area they focused on in their gaming discussion the 970 has 56 compute units with the 970 XT running 64 both are 16 GB cards with gdr 6 on a 256bit bus the gpus have slightly different clocks the architectural overhauls of rdna for match so the same changes apply to the 970 as the XT again with sort of the main exception mean that 50 60u versus 64 that's really sort of it it's very simple setup this time now pricing we're not going to bother going through alternative cards right now because there's really just three that are in the discussion today for a card in this class of price it's going to be the 5070 which you shouldn't buy the 970 XT and the 9070 and then Intel they're like kind of starting to get closer but not for the right reason so the b580 is supposed to be a $250 card maybe 300 with a partner model it's in like the 400 sometimes and you shouldn't buy it for that price unfortunately uh very interesting card at 250 though they're super competitive actually at that price but anyway we're going to get straight into the data we'll save some of the pricing recap and Alternatives and comparing all the cards available after this launch clears so we're going to give it a couple days come back and revisit post launch which just cuz we want to monitor the next day or two get an idea for the availability of both the 570 and the 970 series and then uh look at the pricing once it kind of hits the street so we get the actual Street pricing uh but for now we have to work off of MSRP for comparisons because the only fixed comparison we have until we can see what this price is at let's get straight into the data Drgon stock with 2 is up first and at 4K initially in this test the RX 97 non XT ran at 64 FPS average with lows at 54 and 53 the 970 xt's 70 FPS result positions at 9% ahead which is exactly how much higher the base MSRP is against the equivalently priced RTX 570 this is one of amd's stronger titles the 970 pulse leads the 570 fe's 56 FPS average by 14% here with 1% and. 1% lows improved in step with the average the 970 is achieving 87% of the performance of the 55070 ti but at 73% of the base MSRP the RX 970 leads the RX 7800 XT by 37% here as well and we'll look at the 6700 XT elsewhere at 14 40p the RX 970 ran at 106 FPS average with the 970 XT leading it at 116 or 9. 3% ahead the 5070 TI is only a few FPS higher than the 970 XT with the 480 super just beyond that in short the 970 is achieving 88% of the 480 supers performance which was a $11,000 card but the 970 is at 55% of the original MSRP despite our wishes that the 970 were $50 cheaper this at least helps to slowly reset the runaway pricing that Nvidia set in motion it gives everyone some perspective of no we should not be paying $11,000 for that for some comparisons against prior Generations the 970 improves on the 67 FPS result of the 7700 XT by 59% the 53 FPS result of the 6700 XT which was a very popular card for them by 100% And the 42 FPS of the 6600 XT by 15 52% here's 1080p the old GTX 1060 and 1070 also appear on this chart to give you some insight into upgrades although anything modern would be better than those it's still helpful to see them on the charts there's no point in putting percentages in for them though because they go from unplayable to playable the RX 970 is about tied with the 700 XT the 970 XT still leads by around 8% with the 5070 TI ahead of the 970 by 133% the 970 leads the RTX 570 DOA Edition by 6% and the lead over the 6700 XT is 96% with the Improvement on the 6600 non xt's 49 FPS result at 173% Final Fantasy 14 Dawn Trail is up now we included this same disclaimer and disclosure in our 9070 XT review but to recap it we've noticed lower performance for the 970 series specifically in Final Fantasy 14 Dawn Trail including lower results than amd's own claims we've had highly reliable results in this Benchmark and R 970 series data has been repeatable across multiple tests so it doesn't really matter what the first party data from its presentation says we're publishing it but we just want to highlight that there is a disproportionately low performance for the 970s and that's something that we're investigating it's possible that it could be the specific scene maybe the Benchmark version or just the architector behavior here naturally but the results is repeatable and so we're running them at 4K the 970 continues the scaling pattern set by the 970 XT the XT is again 9% ahead the 5070 Fe leads both of the cards in this test running running at 78 FPS average and improving upon the 970s result of 63 FPS by 24% against the prior generation the 970 XT sees a smaller Improvement on the 6700 XT of 53% at 1440p the 970 ran at 126 FPS average the 970 XT is 10% ahead here with the 570 ahead by 21% improvement over the last generation is non-existent with the S 800 XT right next to the 970 now as we said in the XT review we checked in with de Bower and saw similar results to some of his tests so it does appear to be a behavior that is related to the game engine and the API and things like that moving on Resident Evil 4 is up next tested at 4K first the 970 ran at 91 FPS average here creating a 13% lead for the 970 XT and it's one 3 FPS result the 970 XT was excitingly right next to the 480 supers 105 FPS in this game meaning that the same $1,000 480 super result leads the $550 MSRP 97 7 by only 16% that is a poultry gain for such a huge price difference especially given how new the 480 super is amd's 970 exceeds the performance of the same MSRP RTX 570 78 FPS by 16% if Nvidia would stop remaking 4070 supers and 480s they might actually make some progress here but until they do the memes will continue until the products improve and now I realize it's too much now yes the the only thing that's too much Jensen is the amount of 4070 supers and 480s at 1440p the RX 970 ran at72 FPS average and outperformed the 390 TI the 970 XT outperforms the 970 by 133% with the 570 TI only slightly beyond that result against the 570 is 152 FPS average the 970 runs 13% ahead the 570 really does look even more deway than previously in some of these tests if that were possible if it were a dead horse it'd be getting kicked right now 1080p is up now the 970 ran at 247 FPS average here which had it between the 470 TI and the 470 TI super the 570 still Trails now giving the 970 lead of 10% the XT model maintains about a 12% advantage over the non XT black myth Ukon is a much more challenging title for AMD to run but mostly with raay tracing either way there should be some more favor for NVIDIA here even without RT it's a heavy game The Rage tracing test will come a little bit later but let's look at 4K and rasterized the 70 ran at 41 FPS average against the 970 XTS 46 giving the latter a lead of 11% the 700 XTX sits just ahead of the 970 XT the 970 ends up still leading the RTX 570 albeit on a technicality which is actually a huge victory for AMD in this particular title that'll change with rt but this is a good position overall of raster at 1440p the 970 held 75 FPS average with well paced lows sitting at 65 and 60 FPS for 1% and 0.

1% this is consistent and good for frame time pacing but it's also about the same as all of its neighbors so it's nothing exceptional the 570 ran at 72. 1 FPS average the difference between the two cards is imperceptible and shows up in measurements but would not be noticeable to an end user the 970 XTS 83 FPS result has it again about 11% ahead of the 970 so that's pretty predictable now to just highlight some landmarks the 2060 ran at 25 FPS and tied the RX 6600 the 6600 XT ran at 29 and the 360 ran at 31 FPS average at 1080p the 970s 104 FPS average allowed it to finally start gaining some distance on the 570 it's not a meaningful swing at 6% improved but is in favor of the 970 if AMD were $50 cheaper it'd be a very clear Victory unfortunately for AMD a tie will often still be decided in nvidia's favor by most buyers especially mainstream but also because of the complications of RT and sofware suedes but still beating the 57 in this game is an achievement for the 7 Starfield is up now tested at 4K in this one the RX 970 ran at 63 FPS average and roughly tied the RTX 470 TI super the 970 outperforms the RTX 570 is 54 FPS average by 177% which is starting to be wide enough that Nvidia needs to be concerned if they weren't basically a monopoly but we never know when the first Domino Falls the 5070 TI Falls below the 970 XT in this one and only leads the non-xt by about 6 FPS hardly enough to spend $200 more for the proximity to the 480 and 480 super also isn't great news for NVIDIA at 1440p the 970 ran at 96 FPS average and nearly tied the 4070 TI super again the 570 TI outperforms the 970 by a lame 5. 4% with the 970 XT outperforming the 970 by 10% against the 570s 83 FPS average the 970 leads it by 15% if the 570 weren't already in the grave we would pronounce its impending demise we might want the 970 to be a bit cheaper just to see that balance for the times it loses or is tied like in the next game but even without that we can't deny that AMD is putting up its best fight against Nvidia in years at 1080p the 970 runs at 118 FPS average relative rank hasn't moved much it leads the 570 by 14% here so the lead has slightly reduced but it's still ahead the 970 XT leads the 970 by 8% in DL 2 at 4K the 970 ran at 56 FPS average and kept Lowe's remarkably close by at 50 and 41 but not in any more remarkable way than all of its neighbors the game is Just consistent the 970 ends up tied with the 5070 there's no difference between those two and in these situations Nvidia will generally be viewed more favorably by a mainstream audience that's where the price would come in or hopefully the awareness of other results the 970 XT leads the 970 by 11% so you'd be paying 9% more at MSRP for about 11% more performance this is one of those games where the 5070 TI pulled ahead of the 970 XT and a not noteworthy way so we see some of that apply to the 970 and the 570 at 1440p the 970 runs at 106 FPS average and ties the 5070 again they're within error of each other the 970 XT out performs the 970 by 11% with the 5070 TI still ahead of the XT generationally we'll just briefly highlight the RX 6600 the 2060 and the RTX 360 as reference points to some of the most common jeps of past Generations though should give you an idea to the performance gains cyber Punk is up now this one has generally been for AMD in the past but it's harder for it with rage racing we'll start with rise testing at 4K the results are thus far positive we already knew that the 970 XT outmatched the 55070 ti but now the 970 is nearly tying the 480 that's just embarrassing for nvidia's last gen uh I don't know what you call it a mid-range posed as a false Flagship GPU as compared to a $550 video cardart the 970 technically outperforms the 7900 XT as well though is basically tied and the lead over the 50 7 is 15% again at 1440p the 970 now Falls slightly below the 700 XT so they've traded places as resolution came down and the 570 has also gotten closer the 970 is now about 11% ahead of the 570 rather than 15% before the 970 XT leads the 970 by 11% and the 570 TI slightly in Phantom Liberty at 1080p now the 970 landed at 148 FPS average allowing the 7900 XD to maintain its slight lead the Improvement in the 970 over the 50 5070 is now down to 7% from 15% at 4K originally if we dropped it down to 360p based on this trend Nvidia might actually pull ahead like unironically I did that math that's about where they should cross over so great it's just like they've wanted maybe that's the push for dlss R tracing is up next this is where AMD has invested heavy effort with its architecture but all of it has been to try and catch up Nvidia was so far ahead in some games that AMD just won't be able to catch them at all scenario the real question is how much closer do they get this time we'll start with amd's worst case which is Blackmouth Wukong but now with raay tracing and at 4K with upscaling the 970 ran at 26 FPS average here so outdoing the 3070 TI but below the 380 from 2020 the 3080s original MSRP was around $700 although that really only held for a week or two before Co era scalping went crazy the 970 XT outdoes the 970 by 14% here this is too low of a frame rate to be playable but but we do the test for relative scaling and percent scaling the 570 crushes the 970 here holding a 57% lead over the AMD GPU the 570 TI scaling over the 970 XT was better and nearly 80% but 57% is still huge for the 570 over the 9070 if you want to play black myth with ra tracing like we said last review you basically only buy Nvidia lows are where Nvidia will struggle the most for some scenarios with the 570 vram capacity in this particular test we're not hitting vram saturation during the testing however we have shown instances where the 570 hits saturation with heavy workloads and high resolutions leading to heavy stutter like in the cyberpunk RT 4K scenario yesterday at 1440p upscale the 970 pushed 47 FPS this gave the 970 XT about a 6 FPS lead nearly tied the 380 and outperformed the 3070 TI and 7900 XTX notably the improvement over the 7900 XTX shows that AMD has actually executed on its RT performance uplifts but unfortunately for am D the 570 remains Superior with the 73 FPS average it leads to the 970 by 55% that's huge at 1080p the 970 measured at 67 FPS average and pushed past the 380 the 970 XT leads by 9% the 570 leads the 970 by 46% so it has slightly reduced but still an unbeatable lead Drgon do 2 with Ray tracing is next tested at 4K first we would play Drgon Dogma with Ray tracing uh for this lineup it's not as heavy we measured the 970 at 56 FPS average giving the 970 XT a lead of 9% the 480 isn't much past that so for as close as these cards are they are also very close to the 480 and the 480 super the 570 trails in this one giving the 970 a lead of 15% at 1440p the 970 gets dangerously close to nvidia's 570 TI which failed to pass the 970 XT in the previous review the 570 TI leads the 970 by 9% the same same lead as the 970 XT has against it the 570 non TI is down at 83 FPS average creating a 133% lead for the 970 this chart has entries for the 6700 XT and other prior gpus so if you want to pause for those you can check them out at 1080p the 970 ran at 119 FPS average and led the 7900 XT by a few frames per second the lead over the 507s 107 FPS average was 11% the 970 XT has reduced lead over the non XT at this resolution now just 6% ahead of the cheaper card dlight 2 with up scaling at 4K is up now this time with r tracing the 970 XT leads the 970 by a higher than average lead of 160% here the 970 ends up below the 570 in this one also with the 570 producing a lead of 9% over amd's most relevant card at 1440p the 970 runs at 78 FPS average and gives the 970 XT a lead of about 10 to 11 FPS the 970 xt's prior 16% lead is now reduced to 14% the 570 is also reduced to a 4% lead from a 9% lead at 4K the 970 was really struggling with that 4K resolution though finally for this game 1080p puts the 570 at just 1 FPS ahead now so basically margin of error the 970 XT leads the 970 by 133% in Resident Evil 4 with r tracing and at 4K upscale the 970 held a 104 FPS average and outperformed the 470 TI super and 570 the Boost over the 570 is 14% here the 970 XT ran 12% higher frame rate than the NX XD with the 5070 TI basically tied with that this chart has a lot of cards lower down the stack like the 2060 3060 2070 and 6700 XT for past generation comparison at 1440p upscaled the 970 ran at 162 FPS average and roughly tied the prior 7900 XT the 970 XT was 11% ahead of the non XT here with the non XT ahead of the 570 by 9% cyber Punk is up last one of the two heavier titles we use for RT we tested this one at two groups of settings Ultra and medium chosen because Nvidia gains a disproportionate Advantage at Ultra medium meanwhile pushes them closer together that gives us the full picture at 4K and RT Ultra just a stress test it for relative scaling the 970 ran at 18 FPS that's obviously unplayable but this makes the point we made in our 5070 review which is that there are scenarios where the 0.

1% lows on the 5070 can suffer in a big way we pointed this out in the last two reviews but that's because they're indicating to us that underneath those lows which really are just meant to be an indic they're not the problem they point to the problem which is spiky and erratic frame Time Performance this is caused by exceeding vram limitations on the 5070 which simply isn't equipped enough to deal with these problems at 4K medium the 970 boosted up to 24 FPS no change and how playable it is or isn't but even this lighter weight workload is too much for the 570 fe's capacity which you can see in its lows again the 970 XT leads the 970 by 15% here one of the higher percent increases reducing the resolution helps reach playable frame rates the 1080 P RT Ultra result has the 970 at 61 FPS average against the 970 XD 71 that's a relatively large Advantage as a percentage of 16% for the 9070 XT the 570 ran at 64 FPS here out doing the 970 by just 5. 7% finally the cyberp punk 1080p medium results put the 970 at 81 FPS average roughly tying the 700 XTX this also puts it above the 3080 the 5070 ran at 81. 9 FPS average and lows were within error of the 90 70 there's no distinct advantage in lows for the 970 here average is the same which is a major positive for AMD when considering its previous Rd deficit we're moving on to power and efficiency testing now which looks at both the total power consumption of the device during the test and the frame rate the end result is that we can calculate the efficiency and performance for wat it's actually a really exciting task for the 9070 specifically an f124 at 4K and with rt AMD has exceptional performance these are only showing two decimals but more a processed for the bar width the 970 roughly tied the 480 super and 590 Fe as the most efficient GPU in the suite here the 570 was at 0.

17 FPS per watt giving the 970 an advantage of 24% it's a huge swing in its favor the 970 XT was closer to the 570 here at 1080p but with the same settings in game the 970 again ends up just behind first place it's tied with the 570 TI and just behind the 0. 64 result of the 580 the 970 XT burns more power and although its performance is better the trade-off favors the 970 here the 570 ends up way down the ranks at 0. 55 here Final Fantasy 4K is up next this is one of amd's weaker showings given its limited performance scaling in Final Fantasy 14 at 4K the 970 pulled 224 Watts during this test when measured at the pcie cables and the slot the 570 pulled 10 watts more but had better efficiency from its higher performance the end result is that the 970 outdid the 7900 XT for efficiency but gave the 5070 a lead of about 18% for reference the 970 XT pulled 310 Watts here roughly matching their tdps at 1440p the 970 ranked at 0.

56 FPS per watt with a total 224 watt draw that has the 4060 as more efficient the b570 is slightly less efficient and the 7800 XD as slightly less efficient also the Nvidia 570 is 0. 65 FPS per watt result out does the 970 again here but we'll see if that persists outside of amd's weakest rasterization title Drgon stock with two with rt shows exceptional efficiency for the 97 7 at 224 Watts again and 0. 42 FPS per watt it's looking pretty good overall the performance is slightly lower than that of the 970 XT but the reduction in power really puts it in a better spot on the efficiency curve it seems like this is more of the so-called sweet spot for power to Performance the 570 is down at 0.

36 FPS per watt despite pulling 231 watts in Starfield at 1440p the 970 is less impressive than an F1 and dragon's dog with two but still overall good its result was 0 . 43 FPS per watt a large Improvement on the 970 XT 0. 34 the 970 ties the 570 which is a problem for NVIDIA because efficiency was one of nvidia's Main benefits with 570 TI against the 970 XT so if andd is starting to chip that away uh that's bad news for NVIDIA that's one of the key things that they've kind of stood upon for being more expensive in the past that's it then first of all credit to the 970 for being one of the most power efficient cards on our charts now it's like basically tied at the top in a few of those charts not all of them but uh it's looking better there now in our 970 XT review we said that AMD made the right choice for pushing for higher performance on the XT rather than pulling back some of its power budget to get better efficiency so that was kind of the trade-off that any silicon manufacturer has they can choose efficiency with lower performance or they really push the power envelope and get kind of past the peak point on the efficiency curve so the XT goes past that point and uh the 979 XT pulls it back looks really good in the charts which is uh actually really important for AMD because that is one of the things on the bullet list of reasons you buy on video without checking performance If you're sort of a mainstream buyer and they're chipping away at that now the reasoning the difference is so big against the XT is because it seems that the 970 XT just pushes past the peak of that curve to maintain the clocks and that CU count necessary in order to be actually pretty competitive whereas the 970 it gets most the benefit of the architecture and has a slightly reduced CU count they pull the power drop back and AMD also gets the benefit from because they've reduced the power draw by 80 Watts on the 9070 for out a box uh they can create more of a gap between their own XT and their non XT so they're kind of playing it from both angles which is what they need to do the 970 XT ends up ahead of the 970 by about 9 to 12% in most of the games we tested with the 5070 generally giving the 970 a lead in several games Drgon stock with two at 4K was playable on both but the 970 had about a 14% advantage over the 5070 the 970 also led the 570 by about 15% in cyberpunk rasterized at 4K with the 970 XT ahead of the 970 by 12% there remains one breakout for the 570 and Final Fantasy something we talked about in our XT review but beyond that for rasterization the 970 is ahead in basically every scenario Ballers Gate 3 even showed a large benefit at 4K for the 970 versus the 5070 since we're far away from the CP bottleneck in rate tracing at 4K the 970 XT ended up around 9% to 19% higher frame rate than the 970 though that 19% number is based on a low frame rate but even still 17 is the next highest percentage 1440p and 1080p weren't that different and can be found in the chart section earlier as for the 5070 in RT and 4K the 970 Beat It by 15% Drgon stock with 2 8% in f124 6 to 7% in cyberpunk 14% in Resident Evil 4 now these summary charts as a reminder these are are calculated as percent improvement from the 570 to the 970 the thing to be aware of is that because the math is calculated as a percent improvement from 570 to 970 uh those negative numbers are sort of going in the opposite direction so the really proper way to do this would be to calculate them all individually as percent Improvement for the highest minus the lowest uh but we just spent 30 minutes doing that so you can find that in the rest of the charts earlier back to the percentages this is the reason we don't like these summary charts generally but the black myth result if you to calculate in the same direction then it ends up being 57% improved for the 5070 over the 970 so that would be the more comparable number to the rest of the positive numbers we're looking at the 970 lost in black myth and DL 2 with rt at 1440p and RT the same loss as exist so this puts the non XT and the XT in a similar position to what we saw with the 7800 XT and the 7700 XT or the 7900 XT and the 700 XTX the Gap is small enough that most people will basically upsell themselves to the XT model in this case weirdly nvidia's own fumbles have sort of made the proximity of these two cards less of a problem than it might otherwise have been because From amd's perspective it's AMD or AMD they probably don't really care that much which of AMD you buy but the XT makes more sense than a 5070 does assuming the MSRP for both the 5070 is already mostly irrelevant Nvidia strengths of its dlss Ray reconstruction reflex all those remain of course but the bells and whistles just we don't think are good enough on the 5070 to outweigh the 970 or the XT the biggest strength Nvidia has is Cuda so for applications where you need Cuda acceleration the software we use for a lot of the production work we do it's all Cuda accelerated so doesn't really matter we're we're in for the 490s or the 309s or whatever uh because that's just what makes our work go faster for things like video editing but from a gaming standpoint the 970 and the 970 XT have really kicked the ass of the 5070 to be fair though the 5070 it was like it was kind of off to the side kicking its own ass and then the 970s came in and they're like oh that looks fun and they joined in I want to thank all of you for coming today so um I don't know anyway uh that's it for this one thanks for watching subscribe for we're going to talk more about the pricing over the next few days as we get a chance to see it unfold so might be Harbor news might be Standalone I don't know yet uh but yeah that's going to be it I'm going to go to sleep thanks for watching to directly support our review use and the huge amount of effort it is to push through this many this quickly plus all the other chaos go to store.

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