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hey everybody Welcome to the wonderful world of Remnant radio in this program I have got Ken fish with us and we are talking about Masons it's going to be another conversation about Freemasonry and specifically discussing Deliverance it's going to be an exciting program you guys stay [Music] tuned you are watching The Remnant radio a crowdfunded show where we interview pastors teachers historians and theologians from different churches and denominations my name is Joshua Lewis and this is my co-host Michael rry together we want to help you break outside of your theological Echo Chambers if you're interested

in learning about history theology or the gifts of the Spirit this is the show for you guys we have a fantastic program for you today planned out we're going to be discussing a lot of the origins of Freemasonry we're going to be discussing uh the different kinds of demonic spirits that seem to be afflicting people who have practiced or or been within the family unit of people that have practiced Freemasonry it's going to be an exciting program lots of really great stuff love having Ken on the program with us he is back once again if

you haven't seen some of the episodes we've done we did an episode recently about walking in the power of the spirit we've done another video that is just wildly picking up steam which is uh our first installment to the subject on Freemasonry Ken that video has almost half no it has over half a million views on it so extremely popular I think what's going on is there's a lot of people who have experienced some weirdness around the Freemasonry subject uh didn't know that man there's a lot of bondage that's kind of wrapped up in this

my family's been doing this and look I've been afflicted by all this and I think it was just put out at the right time where people were hungry for that information and we're coming out with a part two to kind of answer some more of the questions that were out there on that uh program but for those of you who are tuning in for the first time we cover content like this all the time gifts of the Spirit uh Deliverance that kind of content if you want to be notified when we come out with more

content the best way to do that is to subscribe to the newsletter you can find that in the description of this video you'll get notified when we you know release content for conferences come out with our courses that release uh that would be the best way to stay in contact and you get a weekly email letting people know all the different things that are taking place here at Remnant without further Ado I want to introduce you uh like I said this is Ken and that's Michael before I introduce Ken Michael uh man you what are

you looking forward to about the Mason stuff you trying to break off some generational curses uh yeah yeah this is funny I could see my little straws poking up my wife literally just walked in and made me a smoothie um I'm glad she gave you the most masculine cup you own what's that I'm glad that she gave you the most masculine cup you own for the podcast I mean but you can't judge a man's masculinity by the color of the Smoothie like guys one of my favorite one of my favorite it's not a cppy cup

oh yeah right would been very bad there was a recent recent post of Matt Chandler with an ugly t-shirt an ugly sweater from Christmas and it was pink and some reformed group posted like the feminization of Pastors in America cuz it was pink bro I just laughed his it's ugly it's an ugly sweater like I it's lost on people I thought it was great uh but man I'm excited to have Ken on the show uh Ken is a friend and so always like to to chat with him and so uh and also to do an

update and followup to our last episode so what you guys can look forward to uh in this one we'll real quickly kind of redefine who are the Freemasons and um and why are they so secretive like or why why do they have why are they so hard to nail down well we'll ask a few of these kind of introductory TM up questions but then we're going to look into some uh some additional topics as well such as the sexual abuse that occurs inside what kinds of spirits we need to specifically address and what takes place

at some of the highest levels and connections to Islam Etc so uh it's going to be a great episode Ken it's great to have you on the show uh I know you lead orbus Ministries maybe tell us a little bit about that and then dive into that first question about who are the Freemasons all right well I'm Ken fish I founded orbus Ministries in uh 2010 so uh if you count that that year uh this is our 15th year of of being orbus Ministries um we do a lot of things there but you know preach

and teach um I have podcast of my own uh we have a training school we have an online prayer room for people who don't know where to go to get Ministry and we have more than that but but that's enough to get you started our website is orbis ministries.org and it's O RBIs orbis ministries.org so let's see you asked me the question about Freemasonry um the origins of the Freemasons are well they're ancient for sure and it's just not entirely clear how far back they go we know with with no doubt at all they go

at least to the building of the great uh Gothic cathedrals in Europe which would put their uh their Origins at least round about the the beginning of the 11th century or the the 10 10 years 1000s uh somewhere in there but but some Scholars think that the Freemasons go all the way back to the building of the Great Pyramids of Egypt and if that is the case then we may be looking at something that's 5,000 plus years old um but it is a Secret order and so information is not uh particularly easy to find they

don't uh file you know public disclosure documents every quarter like a corporation that has publicly traded shares uh it's it's viewed as a fraternal organization although to be clear fraternal here is in the broadest sense and it includes women women there are branches of Freemasonry for the women as well as for the men and as the name suggests um the earliest participants appear to have been primarily uh people in the guilds the tradesman's guilds and especially stone cutting uh for purposes of building whether it's Cathedrals or pyramids uh that's really where it all originates and

they're called the Freemasons because they didn't want to be subject to the rigid controls of the government um for those who think that they came about during the time of the building of the cathedrals of Europe uh they were looking to be free of the uh oversight and control of the Catholic church now of course if you're a Catholic and you're building Cathedrals uh you might want to have some oversight over what your stone masons are doing so was all of this bad well as you know this sort of thing turns into he said she

said and it's a secret society but what we do know is that at least officially and I say it that way because uh there's plenty of evidence that from time to time Masons are involved in the Catholic church at least officially you are not allowed to be a Roman Catholic if you are a Freemason period the two are mutually exclusive um and if you go you know further back into the building of the pyramids well then we'd be talking about something that isn't specifically relevant to uh rising up against Christianity but rather any form of

centralized power so that's probably a good whatever two minutes syis so yeah let's let's hang out on that concept of like the Egyptian mythology kind of being interwoven within uh Freemasonry from what I understand and you can correct or just kind of give your perspective on this Freemasonry uh though this is the time that it emerges with these great Cathedrals and these kinds of things it's pulling its philosophies that's why it makes it hard to date is because it's pulling its philosophies from or older and later Origins kind of incorporating and syncretizing it in to

their Pagan practices so so first all maybe maybe help us with clarifying why it's kind of hard to date because of those things and then secondly maybe help us understand how this is a syncretistic thing because a lot of people say well you know that g on that that logo stands for God you know uh my my great grandpappy he was a Freemason and you know he he went to church he went a me good Methodist believer and you know he was a card caran member of his local church so so can maybe weigh into

uh one this is a syncretistic practice and some of its Origins within Egyptian mythology yeah so the Freemasons are highly syncretistic and the fact that they have a g there representing God to me is neither here nor there um by that I don't mean that it makes the Freemasons good but rather it's not it's not conclusive proof that that they are something other than syncretistic because the word God as it is commonly used particularly among American Christians the word God is used to denote um a particular entity Jesus taught us to call him father but

but that's what we as christians mean when we say God but when we move outside of the Christian domain um God could be anything Allah is a God uh Vishnu Shiva Krishna they are gods and so when we talk about God in that sense we're really talking about something like the um ancient word Al uh eel Al just meant any old generic God at all and if you wanted to know which God did you mean well you could have for example El Shai the all powerful one and so this is the all powerful God if

he's El Shai uh but if you tag another word onto the end of a then he becomes that God so God God is a word that's actually quite indistinct and so the fact that the Freemasons have put G as part of their logo is is actually quite disingenuous it means that they are not pinning themselves down to any specific God and they'll include virtually anything that that fits what they want to do um and in that sense we can think of well different religions of the world that allow many different gods to be worshiped the

Hindus are notoriously syncretistic you go to India you started evangelizing Indians you tell them we worship Jesus they say so do we wait a minute but you're Hindus and you worship Vishnu and Shiva and Brahma right but but but we we worship Jesus too because we include everybody and the Buddhists are much the same so that g is an inclusive G it is not specifically the Christian God whose letters in Hebrew are YH W that that is not what we're talking about at all and it's quite confusing to people because the language is not distinct

yeah and the book that you recommended last time you were on the program was 33 degrees of deception um which was kind of sounds like it was almost co-written uh by a former 33 33rd degree Freemason and then a partner of his who kind of collected his stories and told them uh it's really really interesting book and that was one of the things that they mentioned was in a lot of these ceremonies that were being practiced to kind of level up into the different um uh movements of the Freemason you know project I don't know

what call it religion as they're moving up within this religion they have three books that are placed on the altar in all of these ceremonies or in many of these ceremonies which is the Bible the Quran and I guess some Hindu Holy Scripture that I was not super familiar with uh but they they would place these out out again kind of displaying that there is no there's no Rhyme or Reason to what God specifically they're speaking to in fact in some of the prayers you're actually told to renounce the fact that Jesus is pre-incarnate that

he he's a great teacher sure but he is not like this eternal long- existent God and you actually get frowned upon mocked and even pushed out of certain sex of Freemasonry if you pray in jesus' name uh they find it quite offensive I I thought it was very very interesting really interesting book I'd recommend people uh go pick that up if they're interested in studying more 33 degrees of deception uh Michael sorry I kind of stole the floor from you all good well if we're going to talk about Gods talk to us about uh Osiris

and herum and the role of egyp I myth mythology how that how did that play into the formation uh of spirituality within the Masons well again if you if you take the point of view and and this isn't this isn't settled but if you if you take the understanding that the Freemasons go all the way back to the building of the pyramids then part of their tradition part of their part of their rights and rituals part of their language Set uh would be drawn upon the various gods of Egypt we know a lot more about

uh Egyptian gods today than they did even a hundred years ago because of you know the findings of archaeology and the ongoing linguistic studies and so forth um so what they're doing is they're drawing on um some of the uh key Gods uh that were worshiped within Egypt and of course we see some conflict there between uh the Christian God the Jewish god um and the these Egyptian gods in the story of Moses and one of the things you'll find is that with the Freemasons they will often take these names that are I mean they

were they were names that were in use at the time that the story in the pages of scripture occurred uh but they've now turned them as it were into code words or uh gateways and this is very similar but not quite the same as what you see going on in witchcraft with the casting of spells because when you cast spells the whole point of it is to control manipulate Channel dominate um spirits to get them to do your bidding whatever that bidding may be and the main way you do that is through these these passwords

these code words uh the Freemasons have something quite similar to that going on and so they draw on these names of Egyptian gods and remember this this is very important to understand um in the word of God itself meaning in the Bible it explicitly states that the gods of the nations are demons many people don't know that Paul makes reference to this in First Corinthians chapter 10 uh but he but he is alluding to something that's found in uh the6th Psalm verses 36 and 37 which explicitly State all the gods of the nations are demons

so whether we're talking about Osiris uh whether we're talking about Marduk whether we're talking about Baal all of these are demons and so what the Freemasons are doing whether or not anyone tells you this by by calling upon by summoning Gods uh again with a plural on it any Gods other than this one God whose four letters are YH wh um out of respect for our Jewish brothers and sisters I I don't say that name hardly ever they don't say it at all they they simply defer when they see those four letters to Hashem which

is Hebrew for the name but note that it's the name not a name not any old name it's the name of the one God that's what Hashem is really denoting when they say that so any of these other gods that um the Freemasons or anyone else might be calling upon whether they know it or not whether they divulge it or not they are actually summoning calling upon demonic power in order to affect whatever it is that they're trying to do whether in their prayers their spells their rituals whatever it may be and some of the

stuff can be real vile I mean um I want I want to go through some of the Oaths and some of the initiation practices that they're kind of walking these people through um you know in in in the book that you recommended you know the first first rung of initiations you're pulled like you've got a you've got a hood over your head you're pulled by a rope over your neck kind of drug through you're kind of beaten and assaulted and and what's happening is you're you're reenacting a false god that's in Egypt and they're they've

renamed this false god in Egypt and you're reenacting a play of a God that was you know covered and beheaded and beaten uh and then they literally bury your body and they raise you in this burial ceremony it's horrific like it's not like we're not saying that this person is like you know I solemnly swear it upold the Freemasons like it's not like you're saying this like cliche little you know empty prayer like you're actually reenacting a burial of a false god at you are the god in this in acent it's a it's a crazy

process but but Ken there's a lot of really odd things one of the things you mentioned was just kind of like the sexual abuse and misconduct that takes place could you maybe unpack some of that for us yeah it really shouldn't surprise anyone in the wake of you know Jeffrey Epstein and others but certainly um there is a lot of sexual misconduct in the world and one of the places that it often occurs I I think it to be fair um we can't say it always occurs but it very frequently does occur that in Masonic

lodges um in an upstairs room somewhere uh they will bring in people and sexually abuse them and sometimes those people are children so it would fall into the category of pedophilia um and they will lay them on altars in a ritualistic way um they strip them naked they may drizzle blood over their bodies they may perform sexual acts serially meaning more than one person is engaged in this with the victim um and I've ministered to many people who have uh been abused in Masonic ceremonies um oftentimes by their own fathers mothers grandfathers grandmothers who were

themselves Freemasons and who volunteered to bring their in this case children and grandchildren into the lodge to be part of that ritual and that ceremony now to be clear um I've not heard very many stories of this happening at the lower levels of the Freemasons and of course there are 33 degrees there um you are a fully initiated Freemason once you've gone through what they call the blue Lodge rights which are levels one two and three and the rights associated with what you were just describing Josh um are are one of those at the base

level of one two three um there's also one where they take a a bare dagger blade um they open your shirt they lay that blade on your chest right over your heart and part of the oath is that if you violate the oath of Freemasons or their vows of secrecy um then may a dagger be plunged into my heart and may I may I find death um you mentioned the the burial one and the and the what they call the hood wink where they put the hood over your head and then they put a noose

over your head um they don't obviously actually hang you but the threat is if you should violate the Oaths and secrecy of the Freemasons that may I be strung up and hung by my neck until I am dead in addition to having my heart cut out and these other things so um all of that is part of the rituals but that's levels one two and three and so when we talk about this kind of sexual abuse that goes on at the higher levels there's a major break at uh at degree number 18 and so the

sexual abuse part doesn't usually come in until Beyond 18 now that's not to say it will always start at 19 um if you're a 19th or 20th degree Freemason you might not have anything go on 21 is another important break point in their progression but what I what I very commonly hear is that when Freemasons are at the 30th degree and higher um There It Is Well again we don't want to say Universal but very very very common that those Freemasons at that level of seniority are involved in abusing people sexually and whether it's rape

pedophilia whatever it's not rare now Ken it's it would be right in saying that and I I I want you to push back on this but it's right in saying that Freemasonry can be in different regions and in different locations be practiced differently where there are very similar practices but like some of these sexual practices aren't necessarily required are they in certain degrees but the idea that uh think of a fraternity like this corporate hazing that's taking place and like having dirt on people is an important thing having someone's head covered not knowing who is

doing these things to you but Witnesses being there like this is this is a social uh it's a social construct that keeps people in line keeps people obedient keeps people hey we know what happened to you sort of thing so it's to say that there are various forms of this that could happen is it is am I hearing you right in saying this always happened after the 18th degree or that it could happen but is not guaranteed to happen I just want to make sure I'm hearing you correctly yeah it it could happen it's not

guaranteed to happen um and if it's going to happen the higher up you go the more likely it is that you will be uh you will be involved because you know when the when the Masons convene and they're in you know one of their Gatherings these are secret meetings as we said um but they may say okay brother Mason now this is what we require of you at this level and so drink this blood or uh here um take advantage of this victim who's staked out upon the altar here in the Masonic Hall and you

know they they are uh the individual who's performing that action is observed and now if you want to say it this way it becomes almost a form of black man except that they're never really supposed to divulge what was done potentially it could be divulged and then that person might be prosecuted but I don't think that's really part of the the idea I think what's really going on and they you know people at the higher levels they they know that they're dealing with spiritual power and so what they're really doing is they are inducting someone

to the next higher level and they are uh bringing into them spiritual Powers Demons by the invoking of the names of these Gods by the actions they are undertaking um and with that the Masonic uh hierarchy the overlords they have the ability to uh control they have the ability based on the Demonic activity that's there to um compel people to do whatever it is that you know the the lodge Master required of them uh Ken it's really helpful one when you talk about levels because I've talked to so many people they're like I'm in the

Masons and we don't do all that stuff and of course you know one response is well it's secretive are they are they telling the truth but I mean i' I've met honest people who who tell me that and I think what I hear you saying is a lot of this kind of stuff happens at the higher level so I think that's helpful and then the other uh the other thing I think is helpful is as you were as you were talking about the sexual abuse you talked about it in a ritualistic context context it wasn't

like some Black Sheep snuck into the higher level of the Masons and secretly did this thing it was like this was part of their religious ritual and so I think that's a helpful differentiator between uh Masons and when sexual abuse tragically happens elsewhere they've actually built this into their ritual at higher levels as what I hear you saying I and let me just add something to that real quick I want to hear your question but since we're here I just want to throw this in you know there are many religious systems in the world where

um sexual abuse or what we would call abuse anyway ritualized sex is part of the religious system and one of the most obvious uh that we could point to is many of the um many of the religious practices of miso Amer meaning you know Mexico Central America uh running through the Aztecs running through the Mayans running through the Inca many of their practices involved not only human sacrifice and the literal eating of Flesh and drinking of blood um but in fact there was ritualized SE ual activity that went on if you go back and most

people have never done this and you know we've all been trained by our school systems I guess now to view Cortez and the Spanish conquerors as nothing other than imperialists uh there may have been some imperialism going on there I'm not trying to undercut that entire narrative but but I think something that is often omitted is if you look in the journals of hernand Cortez who was was the leader of the first wave of the Quist lores Cortez records in his journal that when they rode into what is today Mexico City teot wakan in the

ancient language as they rote in they rode in under an archway of 185,000 human skulls now where did they get that number well they later took it apart and counted them all and where did all those human skulls come from Human Sacrifice and as they rode into wakan and by the way this pyramid is still right in the heart of Mexico City it's the ground level is higher but you can see the very top of it Cortez records in his journal that as they wrote in the high priest plunged his knife into the chest of

a victim who was staked out on the altar at the top of the pyramid he cut the victim open and re withdrew the beating heart still beating heart and bit into it and ate the Flesh and drank the blood that was in the chambers of the heart and Cortez records that that priest his hair was matted with blood and feces from all of the sodamistic rituals they had been doing to the victims before they sacrificed them so I'm not saying that the Freemasons do all of that I mean they might but but what I'm saying

is ritualistic sex is known in the animals of the world and there are other parts of the world where it still goes on um but that one is just so blatant and blunt and it shows you the depth to which human beings can go in their pursuit of whether power or pleasure or whatever okay I mean Co prostitution is super popular throughout even the Bible right like they talk about the Bible talks about cot prostitution um ashra and baale worship is basically just a massive orgy that takes place on high hills uh where we're trying

to attract these deities the the the fertility goddesses and the storm goddesses to come together and give a prosperous season I mean it's all it's it's most of religious history has had sex Incorporated with the practice of those religions so that is hm there's an entire there's an entire strain of Hinduism that engages in something called Tantra and that's all ritualized sex and it's it's interesting here one branch of the Freemasons um not one that people know very well it's it's kind of a more shadowy minority branch of it but it's known as Rosicrucianism um

the rosac crucians draw very heavily on uh Hindu ritual and Hindu religion in what they do so maybe the Scottish right Freemasons are drawing on Christianity because Scotland was at least at one time supposedly Christian um and so the Scottish right Freemasons May draw the Christian faith whereas when we look at the Shriners they're drawing on Islamic faith and when we move over to the rosac crucians they actually have a full-fledged teaching on reincarnation and they draw on the Hindu gods and right in the middle of all of the Rosicrucianism is in fact this teaching

on tantric sect so ritualized sex is part of Many religious systems in the world and we're here to talk about Freemasons but I would just say a lot of what goes on in modern wiccanism has its own versions of ritualized sex as well h okay well I had a question a long time ago but uh I actually going to change my question uh I was going to ask about Oaths we'll get to Oaths uh and ritual Oaths but I think we've we've kind of gone down a different Trail so I want to ask you this

because we've been talking about sexual abuse and ritual sex and so specifically you had told you had told us that uh I mean just a little bit earlier in the interview that you have I I think addressed Spirits or you you've encountered this in Ministry where someone was sexual AB so it it wasn't just like hey I I read about this book or I read about this in a book or something like that which has its own validity uh for sure but this was like no you you have cast Spirits out of somebody that was

ritually sexually abused in uh the Masons if I heard you right so uh could you tell us maybe one of those stories and kind of put um just just kind of illustrate that for us um you're casting Spirits out or addressing ritualistic like how are you even ministering in that scenario this would be a fair moment for all the soccer moms who have their kids in the car when we're listening to Remnant radio to maybe hit the pause button we probably should have given that disclaimer out a few moments earlier and then also I'll take

this moment to remind Kim Ken that we are on YouTube so um so maybe maybe package it with appropriate language I'm sure you can do that you're you're you're a skilled oror to be clear I'm not asking to give me details about the acts that were done I'm asking about your ministry time and how you approach that there you go okay praise God so the way the way this might come up as an example is um someone approaches us and says hey I you know I want prayer and they as they're describing whatever their particular

issues are you're listening to the pattern and you're saying well this pattern often occurs in Freemasonry um if it's a different pattern it we might not even ask about the Freemasons we might be looking at something different but this pattern that we've just heard described is sounds like it could be Freemason so tell me ma'am do you have Freemasonry in your family well it's strange that you ask yes um my father was a Freemason my uncle was a Freemason and so was my grandmother she belonged to something called The Order of the Eastern Star and

uh and my grandfather that was married to her um he was a lodge Master at the you know XYZ Lodge now in the West in America England places like this the two most common branches are the Scottish right and the York right there are others though um so all right tell me about that well you know they so they were they were Freemasons now the thing with Freemasonry and I think I mentioned this the last time I was on the show is that when somebody joins the Freemasons one of the Oaths that they take is

they pledge forever and let me just pause at that for a moment forever they pledge in perpetuity forever all of their the legal term is issue all children grandchildren great grandchildren great great grandchildren Etc that will ever come out of their loins forever and ever amen no exceptions no break that's the way it goes that they will become Freemasons that they will serve uh jaulon who's the ruling Spirit of Freemasonry and that they will uh join the lodge and serve the Lodge and so for a lot of people like in our story here um this

woman she doesn't know it but she's been pledged to an evil spirit to serve jaulon and the Freemasons but here's her problem she's not actually doing that in fact she might well be a Christian if she's showing up in one of my meetings but you don't have to be a Christian you could have gone in some other direction you could have gone after um I don't know uh secularism or you could have gone after uh maybe being a Buddhist but the point is you're not following the LOD you're not following jaulon that's the that's the

big marker and so jaulon thinks he has ownership of you because you were pledged you were brought as a as a gift and so he wants to assert his authority over your life your body your brain and so he begins to manifest things in your life which are destructive and harmful because you've broken the oath and the whole purpose of it is to get you to come into line and submit and so now here I am in a meeting I'm dealing with this individual and they say well yeah you know so I had this grandfather

this grandmother my own father my uncle all of them were practicing Freemasons and I'm like okay uh we need to cast some demons out of you and so we you know we start that process and as the demons are coming out or maybe before we even get started um now this woman says well you know I have this memory of when I was about six years old my Grandpa took me to the lodge and he brought me upstairs and we were in this darkened room and there were all of these men standing around in a

circle and there was a big I guess it was a table or at least I thought it was a table and they laid me down on the table without my clothes on they they stripped me or told me to take off my own clothes and uh and they laid me on the table and there were candles lit all around and they began dripping blood on me and then I was violated it would be something like that and so like oh okay so now we need to deal with spirits of rape we need to deal with

spirits of you know whatever it is that was done to you um this is all part of the Deliverance getting those people out of this engagement with with the Masonic line which they never agreed to be part of but they were pledged they were dedicated and it's be careful now I'm going to give you an analogy but you know many of us dedicate our children to the Lord Jesus in church when they're born because we want them to serve the Lord I'm that one's okay right because we're serving a good God and Jesus loves the

little children all the children of the world suffer the little children to come unto me and do not forbid them for to such as these belongs the Kingdom of Heaven well the Freemasons have their own dark version of that and what they're really trying do is to induct and and as needed through the force of trauma and violation um force people to come under the power of jabulane that does go on and I've had many of those conversations with massive Deliverance not just about Freemasonry as a generalized concept but about the sexual abuse that was

performed on an altar somewhere in a masonic hallon and these these rituals I mean they sound they sound they sound archaic they sound I mean like something out of a movie like it doesn't it you know for a person that comes into this and goes okay I think this is a generally Christian space and you know it's like it sounds it sound like for most people when they think of Freemasonry they think of like you know Christian Yoga right they're like oh you know this is just a person who's a real Godly believer and they're

accidentally playing with they don't really know how bad it is but like you're describing this and it's like they drank blood from a what you know like you know the you start getting into this stuff and it's wild can you maybe talk to us about some of the some of the Oaths some of the vows and and some of the rights and rituals they perform that would be inherently unchristian and and how these things are deeply demonic in their in their origin because again you're making vows over and over if I break this vow you

know put like that my life be taken from me stabbed through the heart you know Hong whatever like talk us through what this is actually doing and how this is opening ourselves up to some deeply demonic and problematic things yeah well I've said before that um Freemasonry this is going to sound very strong and I know that but anyway Freemasonry is actually Satan worship and the reason it's Satan worship is because this ruling spirit jaulon is a guise of Satan himself he has many guises that he likes to come in uh in some places he's

known for example as say baffet but that's not really a Freemasons term that's more out of the realm of traditional witchcraft but but within the Freemasons what they're doing is they're engaging in rituals that are very much like what we find when we deal with people who have been subjected to Satanic ritual abuse or Sr and that's because Freemasonry is Satan worship and again I know that's a very strong thing to say now on its surface it doesn't appear to be that way it looks like a Civic organization but you know Jeffrey Epstein looked like

he was just a talent recter in Hollywood too so uh as the scripture says Satan disguises himself as an angel of Light and as one of my early mentors when I was a you know younger Christian he used to say the devil always dresses himself in a Brooks Brothers suit well Brooks Brothers is out of business now so maybe we' say in Armani suit but it's the same idea so usually the outward face looks very good clean Noble upright and so the Freemasons come across as though they're the pillars of morality in the community but

what's really going on is all of these rituals all of these Oaths all of these covenants are designed to bind you to demonic powers that are themselves under the rule of Satan and with that to make you somebody who serves the powers of darkness and so whether it's an uh some sort of a curse you bring down on your own head by saying you know if I should ever violate the oath of the Freemasons may my out May May my eyes be gouged out May my tongue be cut out um that's a pretty horrific thing

but what many people don't realize and they tend to treat it as well kind of cavalier as ha yeah that sounds really gruesome but you know that's just like something we say at Halloween no this is actually a real curse and there are demonic enforcers that go with Every curse that has any power and so it might actually happen down the road that if you were to violate the the secrecy valow by the way most Freemasons even ex-f Freemasons even people who have left the lodge and asked to demit meaning they've written to the lodge

and say take my name off the role most of them are very reluctant to talk about the things that they have said done Etc while in the Freemason because in the back of their mind they're thinking my God that might actually happen to me and um you know I don't know I don't know how many lodges have you know enforcement divisions but but it's always in the back of the mind of any Freemason that this might be done to me so it might be something like that where there's bodily injury U there may be something

where U I don't know they they they turn you over to the authorities and you no longer have the protection of the Masons one of the things that the Masons do is they protect their own so for example when a Freemason is getting ready to die the brother Masons will come or maybe the sister Masons if it's a female Branch I've had more experience with the male side of it but but not zero with the women um the brother Masons will come to take the body and perform a masonic uh funeral and I I have

a friend who is a uh an Anglican priest and he told me a story of one time he had a man in the parish je um they didn't know he was a Freemason but he was dying and um four Freemasons came to the home where he was dying in the full Masonic regalia to take him away and my friend he stood between them and the man who was dying he said I will not let you in here you are Freemasons and whatever you are going to do it's it's satanic and you cannot have the body

of this man he's one of my congregants this is one of the things you brought up few minutes ago Josh we didn't really revisit it but it's it's very common in a lot of the mainstream denominations to find people who aren't particularly devout they may not even truly be converted but they are um but they are in the church somehow and they go through the motions and quite often you find them they're on the boards of these churches and things like that it's the Freemasons like to do that so they can control what's going on

in the house of God um I found very high incidents of free Freemasonry um among anglicans methodists Presbyterians um it's less common among maybe the anabaptist type branches so the Baptists nazarenes people like that but it's not zero um you find Freemasons among the unitarians and again other sort of what we used to call the waspy denominations white Anglo-Saxon Protestant type denominations um they they are they're surprisingly common and if you go into parts of say rural England rural Australia you might go into a Parish Church where perhaps every single man in the church is

a Freemason the Catholic Church officially forbids Catholics from being Freemasons but I know from experience that there are some Catholics and some of them join these Catholic guilds um that are available for Lay people and and actually some of those guilds actually begin functioning I don't know what to say as some sort of a front Organization for the free Masons and they themselves become a recruiting funnel uh for bringing people out of straight line Catholicism through these these guilds and ultimately they they get them to join the Freemasons that sort of thing does go on

um it depends on the region how common it is uh but it occurs both within Catholicism and protestantism and it occurs in the Orthodox Churches as well although I don't have as much experience with them there uh I know that it goes on there as well and as we've already mentioned the Freemasons are active at least in some sort of synergy with Islam through the Shriners and through uh with Hinduism through the rosar crucian so you can see that that they are always active trying to draw people out of even the conventional branches of religion

and I'm not thereby endorsing other religions I'm just saying drawing people out of what we think of as conventional branches uh and using these these funnels as a way of drawing people people in and so you asked the question about the kinds of Oaths and and vows that they would take well it would be if I ever if I or my descendant should ever depart from serving jaulon of of you know being a loyal Lodge member then may these penalties and decrees come down upon me uh may I be chopped into a thousand pieces buried

alive whatever it might be yeah and we would we would say as Christians vows of secrecy and silence and and and vows that you will lie in perpetuity about things that and withhold truth like we're called to live in the light um this is not a Christian practice like um also don't sign an N but not saying it's the same thing just saying don't do it uh Michael rry Amen to that you know let me say something about that too so when we think about o what did Jesus say about o um don't do it

right don't make them so oh so you're thinking about it in terms of ndas now that's interesting no well not so much I think I think there's a I think there's a proper legal place in Commerce for there to be non-disclosure agreements so that proper due diligence can get done but what we're talking about here isn't an NDA a non-disclosure agreement it's rather that we we force you to swear a vow of secrecy and silence and if you ever violate it it's not that we're going to take you to court to seek monetary damages we're

going to take your life right okay so let let me ask you this um if somebody enters in at the lower levels and they're not making these kind of Oaths over their children they're not saying I worship jaulon and drinking blood and doing all this crazy stuff if they just join do they endanger themselves of receiving an evil spirit number one and number okay and then number two which ones so in our last our part one you emphasize death and infirmity as two of the spirits but but are there some others because there are all

kinds of you know other other Gods uh that they're worshiping and you know jaulon I remember you saying that uh ja or Jah uh is rooted in Yahweh the Hebrew god um and I mean the God we worship uh Yahweh uh and then the middle initial Buzz A variation of Baal or ba and then I can't remember the last one was like some Egyptian god or something like that right so they're they're worshiping all the other gods like what kind of spirits are they subjecting themselves to well when they when it will depend on the

Oaths they're asked to take U there's fairly standardized Oaths for the first three degrees but um but again remember there are different lodges and different branches within Freemasonry so what they might be doing in the Scottish right might not be the same as what they do in the York right which might be the same as what they do in the Shriners U but in the first three degrees you are uh you are becoming inducted and you become a full-fledged Nation at the end of those three degrees um one of the Gods you will be dealing

with is jaulon now jaulon as I said on the last show is an Unholy Trinity there are three gods in there and you just named them we have um Hashem is what I would prefer to say uh we have uh ba the ancient fertility god of the Canaanites and we have anuras the Egyptian god of war and so again we're pointing back towards Egypt um but but what we're saying is this Unholy Trinity somebody might object and say well but you see that one God that's the Hebrew God he's in there so it's okay right

no because the first commandment says you shall have no other gods alongside of me not just in not just that precede me and so by dealing with jaulon we're dealing with this Hebrew God with two other gods right alongside of it and one of the things that happens in the in the old Covenant is that if you are worshiping another God this is actually a capital offense now we're not going to put people to death in the modern period I think that's you know one of the advantages that uh Christian Enlightenment has brought to the

world that we don't just make everything a capital offense but when you think about the seriousness of what this is leading people astray to worshiping other gods um especially in a time in history in that old Covenant period where there's no blood of Jesus by which we can affect Deliverance uh from evil spirits uh we actually want to stamp this out right away and so it's in the Mosaic code that this is what they're going to do now in the New Covenant we don't stamp people out we don't put them to death or at least

we shouldn't I mean I'm aware of what the cathol did in the Inquisition but um but here's the thing and people don't realize this I learned this after many years of Deliverance Ministry um so this is a key learning is that if you do something that under the old Covenant would have been punishable by death in the New Covenant you may live physically but you will likely attract a spirit of death onto yourself and in so doing how does the spirit of death most commonly operate through sickness and so you may find that your life

is foreshortened and that will be because of some lingering wasting disease that has come upon you so let's pick something that we might not commonly think about might put the fear of God in some people which might not be bad um divorce and as a result of adultery so in the old Covenant if somebody committed adultery this was a capital offense and it's a strange thing but many people who get involved in they get married but now they become adulterous it's strange how often those people end up with odd diseases frequently of the liver but

there are other organ systems that can be affected and no one can figure out why this is the doctors can't figure it out they don't know what's wrong and their health just sort of continues to decline well in like manner if someone has been involved in something where they've pledged themselves to another God which is a capital offense in the old Covenant they've pledged themselves to to another God besides Hashem uh perhaps they've been involved in ritualistic worship involving dedicated food or drink or blood all of which are forbidden in both the Old and the

New Testament again take a look at First Corinthians 10 it's a chapter in the New Testament that most preachers just jump right over because they think it doesn't apply anymore more after all who's engaging in idolatry in America today but when you when you go down through all of that you realize my gosh it is really strange how many people who have gotten involved in Hinduism and yoga people who have gotten involved in the Freemasons people who have gotten involved in adultery all of these things would have carried a death penalty in the old Covenant

how many of them have really uh like weak constitutions their health isn't good they're constantly getting sick they they seem like they're in and out of the hospital getting treatment for this that and the next thing and the next thing you know you find out well old Joe he died at a heart attack at age 54 and everyone's like gosh that's so young why did he die at age 54 well nobody knows on the surface but if you go back and look at Old Joe's history well it turned out he joined the Freemasons when he

was you know 28 years old looking to get ahead and he later demitted and walked away from it at age 35 but he never got deliverance from the spirits that were in him because he'd become a Freemason and so they worked their havoc and he died at age 54 God rest in peace right that's that's the kind of scenario that we would commonly see can I've got two questions and it's we're at 52 minutes I I'm okay with going a little bit over if if everyone else is but um the they're very different questions I

really want to make sure we ask the question about um cities I think mine actually is one of them uh that is established on that gridlock of the Freemason Divine geometry like I hate the concept and everything I've ever heard about strategic spiritual warfare like I just don't like it like I just I've got nothing good to say I've done as much research as I can have come out empty but like if the enemy actually wanted to develop our cities in such a way that was dedicated to some false entity does that need to be

broken in some way like I don't have any biblical on how to do that so I'm not comfortable doing kind of esoteric Christian practices trying to break off Freemason curses or anything but like Washington DC is like laid out using this kind of divine geometry so I'm curious like one is there something that we should do with that and I I should just let that question be there uh I'm super curious maybe for selfish reasons but uh I want to know uh well there's no doubt that the Freemasons have been involved in laying out cities

um Washington DC is one of them interestingly enough cber Australia which is the equivalent of Washington DC for the nation of Australia um it too is laid out on a masonic grid um but there are others uh I was in uh Santiago Chile a few years ago and there was a masonic grid that had been laid out as part of the construction of that City you might say what are the Freemasons doing in South America well the Freemasons in Phil fated Europe in the Middle Ages again regardless of whenever they got their start and so

most of the um houses of royalty and nobility within Europe are shot through with Freemasonry and so when the Spanish came to the new world and they were building cities um many of them were laid out using Freemasonry symbols lines Etc and it's interesting um particularly within within Santiago when I was down there there are very specific what are known as lay lines La y lay lines um that run from one point to the next and really the point of the of the Masonic layout and and let me just pause for a moment before I

finish the sentence and say the Masons aren't the only ones who do this um the Mexicans did this uh with the the pyramids and so forth in teot wakan um the Babylonians did it a lot uh the Egyptians did it so all of these things are designed to lay out lay lines which are really they lines along which spiritual power flows if you think of an electrical line You'll Be in about the right direction but of course we're talking spiritual power not electrical power but it is just as real it's just different and so um

these lay lines are there in order to lock in specific locations so that the entities that are over these cities can control them and um Josh you made the comment you haven't been particularly impressed with the stuff you've read on this point I'd encourage you to get a book called prayer altars by John mulinde m u l i nde John mende um he is an African Apostle I would I would consider him an apostle um from Uganda and um he he talks about these altars which is what is an altar I think again sometimes Christians

have their own language set of what this means but an altar is an anchor Point that's what it is and um altars are places where Spirits become attached it's like it's we could say it's a portal if you like that language better but it's a place where those powers that are in the air these spiritual powers in what some people call the second heaven can come down and they attach to the Earth and and it becomes their access weight and so what the what the Masons have done with their layout of the cities is they've

created various altars um now whether there's ever an animal or a human sacrificed on those altars is not the point but they have created altars that are attachment points for uh the Masonic powers to be able to exert their influence okay so so what do I do like that's I mean sure well like I I I don't think that they're sacrificing you know bulls and goats because they don't have power like I think they're doing something like that dude in the Bible sacrificed his kid on the wall because it did something like there there are

yeah there's power and and sure okay so I I don't think that it was an accident that they built the Pyramid the way that they did or they built the you know city of ADA the way they did but what do I do you know like am I supposed to do anything am I supposed to like my answer to all the spiritual strategic Warfare has been do evangelism preach the gospel but you've got like a a Shriner Club across the street or you've got a Freemason Lodge and you know that your city's been built this

way should you have to should you do anything yeah um there are people who who do this and they believe it's highly effective I don't think that going around doing strategic Warfare is just for everybody I think there are some people and they have I would say unique Ministries they're commissioned by the Lord to do this and they go around and they engage in this kind of strategic Warfare and in the aftermath of but there are significant breakthroughs if you guys want to interview a couple of people who do this on the show we can

talk afterward I'll give you their names and tell you how to get in touch with them and they can give you testimony after testimony after testimony of the effect that they've seen from it but what they're really doing um to use John M's language is they're tearing down the altars that are the attachment points or the points of access uh for these uh spirits that that claim particular regions and geographies and we know that that's a Biblical idea because we know about the Prince of Persia for example from The Book of Daniel um and there

are similar kinds of passages we could point to for example I think Legion who was in The Man in the graveyard in Mark chapter 5 I think that was a Dominion level Regional Spirit over the lake of Galilee the Sea of Galilee of the Sea of ganzar sea of Tiberia all these are the same body of water uh and it extended at at least as widely as the 10 cities the decapolis uh and interestingly the man that was delivered he lived in one of the 10 cities the one called gadera so the Bible contemplates all

of this and has this worldview but many of us don't have this worldview so when we read these things they go right over our heads and we don't even realize what's right there in front of our eyes and it's because of the secularized world worldview that we've inherited here in the west but when you start becoming more um I don't know I I mean I didn't go looking for this stuff I just ran into it and I started learning how it really functioned and I started seeing breakthrough whether in Deliverance or healing or whatever um

then I started to realize that you know maybe all this stuff that I never thought was a thing is actually a thing okay well we could go on a long bunny trail here on uh the subject of spiritual map and strategic level spiritual warfare uh which uh but I will stick however so I'm going to get off that bunny trail but I am going to stick with the Practical theme sure and that is practically what do we do if we or a loved one has engaged with the Masons or even if it's a dead loved

one who was a forefather or for mother um for mother there's a word but uh one of our ancestors just what do we do in response can you uh and maybe I could ask it this way could you tell us what to do by telling a story yeah I'd be happy to um I've had so many people come with pretty much the exact scenario you just described so you know in the conversation either they bring it up or in as I'm dialoguing with them it comes out uh that they had a say a grandfather or

great-grandfather who was a Freemason um and we have to get rid of the Freemasonry now probably single most dramatic story I have uh in this regard I've got a bunch of dramatic ones but I think this one is definitely Takes the Cake I was in Dallas Texas and I was speaking in a church and there man yes sir I'm actually gonna interrupt you because you did tell that story on the last episode although it's is is this the story where uh with the digestive thing that was kind of eating him up on the inside yeah

Michael rry how dare you be like oh oh no no leftovers we can't do twice baked testimonies you get one and dunken on Remnant radio if you don't share a new story it doesn't count I will tell you guys this though like if for no other reason but to hear that insane story you need to go watch episode one just search it's nuts um but K that kid I know that you are like that story he's still healed today I heard from his father just before Christmas wow praise God but I know that you like

reservoir of stories so I know you've got another one I know you do you so this this next story comes from um Australia and it was it was interesting because I had I'd been ministering in an Anglican church and a man had come up and he had had uh he his arm he didn't have any um most of his muscle had been removed surgically and he didn't have um ligaments and tendons so that he could use his arm normally and that struck me as odd and I began talking with him and it turned out that

he'd had all of that removed because he developed a melanoma that wasn't just on the surface of the skin it had gone into his body and so the surgeons had removed all of that to spare his life and so I said well that's interesting where tell me about your background turns out he was the Grand son of a Freemason so we prayed and we broke the uh Freemasonry over him and there's a very specific way that I go about doing it um it's not a magic formula it's just meant to be thorough so when I

finished praying for him um he seemed to be improved and he had some mobility in the arm that he didn't have but he wasn't all the way fine the next morning was Sunday I preached the Sunday morning service and the rec of the church said at the conclusion of the service now many of you have been touched by the Lord you know this weekend and Ken's going to be over here on the side of the church for a receiving line um if you'd like to come over and share with him briefly how the Lord has

blessed you through his time here uh feel free to do that and so here comes the guy with the arm uh down the down the line to shake my hand and when he gets to me he goes I just have one thing to say and I said what's that and he puts up both of his hands like this and he says praise the Lord so the the healing had concluded overnight that had started the previous afternoon but let me say it again for emphasis his muscles his ligaments his tendons had been surgically removed by doctors

because of the melanoma so you know that was a pretty dramatic healing but I went on from there to Melbourne Australia that was that occurred in Batman's Bay uh which is in the Southeast corner of the country um so anyway I go on to Melbourne Australia and I'm in a meeting and this woman approaches me and she says I'd like prayer um I've had melanoma and I'm thinking huh that's an interesting coincidence that I just had this situation with a man who' had melanoma and he was out of Freemasonry so I said to her um

do you happen to have Freemasons in your family she says well yes I do as a matter of fact and I said oh well wow um how much melanoma have you had she said well I've had over a hundred melanomas removed from my body over time I said that's pretty crazy and she goes yeah and look at this and she's you know she's wearing glasses and she takes off her glasses she had a false nose as part of her glasses and there's a hole this big in the center of her face because they had to

remove the nose and go in to get rid of all of that melanoma that had affected her there and so I I went after the Freemasonry there and drove a bunch of masonic Spirits out and so again you can see this model that I described of death and infirmity the infirmity in this case is melanoma but it's designed to bring on death and um she was a descendant of a of a masonic father who had been a lodge master and um anyway so she goes through this massive massive Deliverance her nose did not grow back

in that moment but she came to a meeting that I was leading a couple of years later and she walked up to me and she said hi do you remember me and I said uh no I'm afraid I don't ma'am and she saidwell I'm the one who had the you know the Groucho marks glasses and nose and uh and she wasn't wearing any glasses and she goes here touch my nose and and I she she had me touch the nose of that glasses two years before and it it was a hard nose it it looked

quite natural it looked quite good on the face it was a good prosthetic but uh but she had me touch her nose and it was you know as you expect a little bit flexible had some cartilage in it um and she said I've had no recurrence of melanoma since she prayed for me wait so that it it was a partial prosthetic is that what you're saying but it wasar tell that the nose that was attached to the glasses was a complete oh the original but she had regrown her nose in EN that prayer time okay

yeah wow that's stunning okay and so to get to the Practical you said you have a process and uh I know we're a little over time so kind of on the faster side so somebody's going through this and so you're repenting you're renouncing you're commanding talk to us through what you do yep and before I do that let me just say I have a CD or a downloadable recording whichever people can buy it for I forget what we have it up for maybe it's $10 or something uh that will walk you through this in far

more detail than I can in the time we have you can buy it in the orbis ministry store orbis ministries.org and just go to store and look for um the the the particular teaching on getting free of Freemasonry uh but but the first thing we do is we have the person whether they were them themselves involved or they were the descendant of someone who was involved um confess the sin of putting another God in front of Hashem and I don't care if they use the term Hashem I do but but they could say God but

they better mean the God not just some random God so they violated the first commandment and they're confessing if it's their ancestors they're confessing generationally I take ownership of what my ancestors did wrong I want to set this right and so I confess the sin of of idolatry and of worshiping other gods all right um with that I renounce uh Freemasonry itself I declare that I will not serve the lodge I will not be a member of the lodge um so I declare I will not serve the lodge and I will not serve jaulon its

ruler and so they have to do that and by the way this doesn't work real well to do on your own you really want someone praying with you to do it because Deliverance is not something we generally do on ourselves uh if you want to pray this prayer it may do we say soften up the beach a bit but but you really do want to have somebody praying with you to do this so all right now that we've confessed the or declared that we will not serve jaulon or the lodge I renounce the blessings the

curses the vows and the covenants of the Freemasons all four of those now each has its own uh vector and the order I don't think is as important is that you cover them all so the Freemasons purport to give you blessings one of the most common of which is financial blessing coupled with political influence these are the two big things that most Freemasons join for so we've got the blessings we've got the curses what are the curses well things like death and infirmity um or losing your business if you ever walk away from the Freemasons

will take away from you what we gave you so um I'm taking it way out of context but the idea is the lord giveth the lord taketh away well the the Masons give and the Masons take away so we've got the the um the blessings the curses the vows and the covenants so these ancestors or if it was the individual then they themselves um they made certain vows about what would happen to them if they ever broke the Freemason line and walked away from it and they took covenants with the Freemasons they came into a

an eternal agreement through their own rituals and whatnot um so they renounce all four of these um vows curses blessings curses vows and Covenants so that's that all right now um that they've done all that we forgive them and we forgive this is what the prayer minister is doing not the individual uh we I forgive you in your generations for these sins of turning against the Lord and of worshiping demons and now in the name of Jesus I break the power of the Masonic vows curses covenants and blessings and in the name of Jesus I

command jabulane come right out and it'll be you know quite a show other times you'll be there for a couple of minutes you know jaulon come out jaulon come out jabul on come out I remember having to do this one night as we were closing a service in a completely different part of Australia uh two women approached me at the very very end and said we have free masonry in our family and we want to get delivered and I mean for like maybe three or four minutes I'm standing there going jaulon come out jaulon leave

get out in Jesus name and there's a little bit of shaking in their body but there's not any like explosive release and the pastor is tapping his foot because he's one he's from one of these I didn't quite realize it but anyway I learned there he was from one of these branches of the church where they say n Christians can't be bothered by demons and all that Freemasonry stuff that's just a bunch of hooie so he's sitting there tapping his foot eyes rolled up looking at the ceiling like just get it over with Ken come

on we know this is all nonsense and all of a sudden at couple minutes into it again I don't remember if it was two or three minutes four minutes but all of a sudden both of these women just explode in a paroxysm of coughing and sneezing and vomiting and they they got delivered and as we say they got delivered hard and so then we had to clean up the vomit on the floor and so forth well now the pastor was even more unhappy both because he was wrong but because we had barf to clean up

but they got delivered and they came back to another meeting and another town later on and thank me and said that their fortunes had turned their health had gotten better um their marriages had gotten better I mean everything had change because the curses of the Freemasons were no longer on them so that's in a nutshell how you do it but I ran through that in whatever it was three or four minutes people who want to know more should get that recording off my website sure yeah that's good okay cool well we need to we probably

need to wrap this up Ken thank you again for coming on uh resident expert in Deliverance space we like having y on chatting through all the uh the weird and spooky so thanks for jumping on the program and this is one of the things we want to do is we want to make Deliverance Ministry not weird and spooky we just want to bring it back down to man as much as we can the biblical levels we're talking about so much of the Christian faith comes back to the same thing right which is repentance um and

faith in Jesus right over and over again so you know if you walk through what Ken just explained you know hey there's a bunch of people who did a lot of things not in faithful service to Jesus so what we're going to do is we're going to repent of those things we're going to denounce any power those things gave us and we're going to have faith in Jesus and and really the Christian message is simple whether you want to talk about it in Deliverance or evangelism or prophecy like all of them really come back down

to this this worldview of repent and believe right trust God that's really the focus of the Christian message so as much as you can hear these things kind of okay this sounds odd to me this sounds odd to me just make sure that what you're anchored in is turn from sin believe in God uh that's really the core of everything that we're talking about today and and if if you're uh man new to Remnant radio you want to come up with you you want to be follow up with different content just like this we've had

Ken on in the past we've had other uh pastors teachers Scholars theologians practitioners from different tribes different churches different denominations talk about Deliverance Ministry talk about healing prophecy these kinds of things make sure to subscribe to the channel like the video and subscribe to the newsletter that's the best way to stay in contact with us I'm making sure that you're getting notified when we come out with content just like this Ken thank you again uh for coming on to the program it's always fun having you man uh really enjoy it and uh we'll see the

rest of you guys next time from 400 to 5: p.m. Central Standard Time on Monday and Wednesday Ken one last time tell people how they can find your ministry if they want to get connected uh ww. orbus ministries.org Ministries doesn't need any explanation and orbus is O RB i s it's a Latin word and um it means the world so we are sent into the world orbus ministries.org not.com fantastic thank you so much Ken once again and we'll see you the rest of you guys on Wednesday we're going to be reviewing some prophetic words for

2024 should be quite exciting see you then