Joe Rogan Experience #2271 - John Reeves

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John Reeves is an Alaskan gold miner who first came to public prominence on the 2012 National Geogra...
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Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan podcast by night all day good to see you my friend good to be seen thank you good to see you we supposed to be doing the end of the year but unfortunately you got caught with the cooties I did I did and uh what'd you get I can officially announce that the end of 2024 is right now been waiting for that calendar's all [ __ ] anyway supposed to be on that old one that's 13 months there you go um so
what happened what' you catch well I thought I had bronchitis all the everybody in the house had it and we go to CrossFit and they all had it I go to that CrossFit Jackson my trainer's Megan Russell there and she's going ah you know you you might want to take it easy a little bit of course I'm smoking cigarettes and I got bronchitis and I go to a clinic they give me some drugs yeah you got bronchitis go home a couple days later I'm sleeping in my chair and my wife has one of those little
oxygen modern things you put on your finger she wakes me up and goes uh all right let's go what do you mean let's go oxygen levels you're going to the hospital what I'm just sitting here taking a nap no you're going to the hospital so I said okay so we get it's late at night we go to St Vincent's Clinic go in it's late and um sitting there waiting for the doctor Arian F Sherry great guy turns out he comes in and looking at me he's young enough to be one of my kids he goes
stethoscope listen it to my lungs he goes do you smoke I said yeah he says you need to quit I said I just did he goes what I said I just did I'm done now what do we do he goes well next you're going to the hospital this is just a clinic I said what do you mean I'm going to the hospital he said you haven't got bronchitis you got pneumonia and I think you got double pneumonia so you're going right now what's double pneumonia both lungs oh the bad kind the bad kind he says
but the good news is you don't have bronchitis I said okay I guess that's good news and that that was about the time I was supposed to be in the studio with you just a couple days before that wow and I'm going wow this kind of screw up my plans as you know best made plans and all that listen the plans are all [ __ ] we made those up yeah we'll do it at the end of the year but it doesn't have to be that all right well I look thanks for the invite I
look forward to it this year I'm just happy that you're okay I am okay and the date didn't matter you know things happen yeah I'm just glad you recovered and I'm glad you quit smoking too yeah he says you need to quit smoking I did went to the hospital was in there for almost 5 days and I haven't been in a hospital in a while but they they have it St Vincent's did a great job the nurses have their little machines they wheel around and they come in your room every it seemed like quite often
to check your vials to do this to do intravenous to do that yeah so I'm sitting in there and couldn't sleep so I'm one of those guys that if you walk by the door and you see an old guy sitting on a bed looking out the door that's me so I maybe got an hour two hours of sleep at night did you have a hard time kicking the cigarettes you been cuz you've been smoking like your whole life right I did I've smoked for over 50 years and I know it's bad for me and I've
never been an anti-smoking Crusader but if anything good comes in my appearance with you today was that this Dr F Shari total stranger guy I never met before in my life happened to tell me at the right exact time you need to quit and I've been thinking I need to quit for a long time my loved ones told me that my wife my kids and I never okay yeah that's a good idea it's a weird thing because it kills you slowly and along the way it gives you just a little bit of happiness little bit
of happiness while it kills you slowly and it's not just a problem of killing you slowly it's how it's going to kill you the way it's going to kill you it's going to suffocate you yep um I have a friend my friend Mike who uh owns The Comedy and Magic Club in Hermosa Beach and he was trying to convince a friend of mine to quit smoking because his wife is a nurse believe so believe I'm not out of school but he was explaining that um the way people die of lung cancer the way people die
at the end and he's like it's horrible like it's you don't see that you just hear he died of cancer you don't see what the final days are like and it's avoidable it's avoidable yeah well since I quit I don't cough anymore is that crazy it's crazy I can breathe better and I I'm still bre you know getting better from the uh pneumonia I'm sure CU it takes a while to get over that I was amazed that you could still fly so quickly we drove you drove from Alaska no from Florida oh that's right Florida
in the win we're in floridaa how long that take though that's couple days it was a couple days Jesus Christ well we had stuff we didn't want to put on the airlines got it wink government I'm just I'm just teasing we uh we wanted a road trip want a little Adventure you know it's you fly over this country at 45,000 ft and you're looking out the window it's a big country and it happens in two hours that's right and you're looking out and you sudden you see a little Dot and see some houses and you
I wonder what those people do down there that's a real problem with people who don't venture outside of the bubbles if they're in those those leftwing liberal bubbles like New York and California the people that don't travel what what help me a lot is doing stand up on the road oh boy cuz I was on I was everywhere so I would go to all these different towns all over the country you get to see a whole different group of people a whole different kind of people you know it's like people are the same and different
everywhere you go and this idea that the people in the middle are stupid especially now that's a really dumb way to look at it because of the internet now everybody kind has access to information and you're going to have dumb people and you're going to have smart people no matter where you go including in the cities but the problem in the cities is the dumb people can trick you because they believe the things that the smart people believe and they say them loudly and so they think they're smart so this is a way to be
smart without actually being smart just say the things that smart people say and say it like you're defending it and you're defending Freedom or science or some [ __ ] democracy whatever it is you just yell it out and then the smart people won't say anything cuz you're saying the things that they want to say and the other people are like hey I know what you're doing and it it more than anything it turns people off exactly and by traveling you have an chance at having an adventure yeah something cool Could Happen yeah you run
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check it out regular humans just living different lives you know and they're all over the place and they're all unique the cool thing about this country if you really did have the time that's what I loved about Anthony Bourdain's show especially the first one that he had was you go to these like little hot dog stands New Jersey and just you just hang out with people and street food and you know you just get a just a bigger picture of humans in life when we got to uh I forget Texas there was a place called
bies oh yeah Jesus Christ is that crazy first time you go there you're like what the hell is this this place two 200 gas pumps yeah I'm going what are you doing we paid a buck 47 a gallon that's three times what or three times less than what I pay in Alaska oh yeah Alaska's got to be rough right but meanwhile that's where they get the oil isn't the oil like real close to runs right through my property I help built that some [ __ ] so anyways yeah know that's I've never understood the economics
of how that works California is the worst I believe the way we tried to figure this out the other day I don't think we got to the bottom of it though I think California has to use gasoline that's refined in California so it's one of the reasons why and then I'm sure crazy [ __ ] carbon taxes whatever they they they ramp up some extra [ __ ] to make it more expensive because you you're looking at a price per gallon that's like a couple bucks more a gallon always than it is here as soon
as we came here I was like what happened to gas why why is it so less here you get a little plastic bottle of water right ooun yeah you look at that bottle you'll pay two bucks for it in a 7-Eleven you know for that little bottle of water four of those bottles of water make a gallon you're paying eight bucks a gallon for water water is the most abundant thing on the planet it's everywhere right except in some parts of California apparently they didn't want to have the reservoirs filled up well they had to
put a lid on it John there's a lid and the lid was broken remember we talked about that 60t diameter water line coming down from Southeast Alaska to California yeah that would have been helpful yeah yeah we talked about that if they can do that with oil why can't they do that with water because they're afraid there'd be a water leak in a Pacific Ocean you can't have water yeah you can't drown the ocean that's terrible oh so anyway so you're looking at eight bucks a gallon for water yeah but oil you got to go
first you got to go find it right then you got to do all kinds of seismic work then you got to drill and then you got to discover it and then you got to build a well and then you got to build feeder lines then you got to get it to a pump station then you got to get it somewhere in a pipeline then you got to ship at 4,000 miles yeah and you got to use it to ship it which is even crazier and you're paying a buck 47 a gallon how's this working boys
I don't get it it is crazy and how much do you have how is it how we burned so much and still there how much is there how much do you guys have left they got a bunch in Alaska they got a bunch everywhere I bet they got a bunch in Greenland too there is a book that I read a book that I read I think in the 90s called Black Gold strangle hold maybe early 2000s and I never found out if it was real or not I I never looked into it any further I
need to talk to like an expert but this guy was essentially saying that oil is a natural property of Earth and that it's not like dinosaur fossils like we like to think about it fossil fuels dinosaurs and plants break down they make oil no he said oil is a a natural component of Earth and that the proof is in the fact that if they have these Wells that go dry they can wait just a little while and then they could go back to the well again and it'll replenish itself yep how is that possible if
this is just decaying matter over millions and millions of years it doesn't make sense unless it's coming seeping in from other areas that they don't have access to and it somehow or another gets to that well like it's all like a stream underground which the question like how much is there what they found out that there's three times more water in the ground underground than there is in all the oceans of Earth it's some crazy stuff dude crazy stuff that I didn't even make sense CU they said the water's tra I think they're saying the
water's trapped in rocks is that what they're saying see see if you can find that article it's a three times as much water under the ground as the ocean like how three times it's stored within a mineral called ring ringwoodite ringwoodite what does it look like I don't know does it have a picture like some [ __ ] Avatar mineral some glowing Blue Mineral filled with water yeah that's kind of what it looks like really yeah where oh [ __ ] that's crazy I called it magnesium silicate wow it's beautiful show me an image of
that [ __ ] ke points about it the hidden oceans found under hundreds of miles below the Earth surface in the transition zone between the upper and lower mantle the water is trapped within the crystal structure of the mineral ringwoodite significance this discovery could significantly alter our understanding of the Earth's water cycle and potentially provide insights into the origin of water on our planet whoa thank God there's scientists out there except you know of course the [ __ ] that [ __ ] steal your bones won't give them back [ __ ] [ __ ]
those guys but other scientists like these cool guys that figured this out these cool guys gals and non-binary folk that is wild stuff man three times as much ocean as is in the ocean that's so crazy so that's the transition zone it's all hydrated how long before Like Rappers start wearing that around a necklace that seems like a dope necklace that's that [ __ ] that they make water out of dope it's got to sell it to someone yeah you just need some kend Lamar type influencer someone was at the top of his game to
start wearing it you know like Kanye in his prime he could have he could have got that out there by the way I want to thank you for your uh podcast and the one with uh president Trump oh you're welcome I thought that was great and I made the mistake of complimenting you on on that page I said I really enjoyed the podcast between you and president Trump Jesus Christ 8,000 people coming at me I'm stopping to follow you you're a nasty person I hate you this is on your page on my page yeah you
got stop reading the comments I know a great man once told me that the problem is I don't take advice and I don't give advice but I'm trying I don't give a whole lot of advice I guess I do sometimes but only with really important stuff like that's an important one you can't fix those and they will affect the way you think they affect the way people behave y they affect the your freedom of expression to freely express yourself I think it had a great impact on the election I think it had an impact because
it showed showed um Mr Trump as a regular guy as a human yeah humanized him yeah well he also was right about a lot of [ __ ] the fact that he called the problem with the LA fires months before they happened was literally saying what they needed to do what they're doing wrong and then boom two times the size of Manhattan is gone yep it's so crazy when you see it live or excuse me uh from above like on video when they do the Drone sweeps over it [ __ ] like a bomb went
off like a [ __ ] nuclear bomb hit that part of the state it's nuts well maybe they can rebuild it after they rebuild Hawaii and North Carolina and take care of some of those guys they're still working on [ __ ] that's blown over in Florida right yep we saw a lot of it in in Georgia when we went through yeah I mean there's you're always going to have a certain amount of hurricane damage and but if we don't take care of that first and instead we spent $200 million on transgender animal studies like
what the [ __ ] what are we doing like why aren't we allocating money to the most important things we have which is people and their safety and their homes and to be able to rebuild the fact that they get a $770 check and that's it that's all those people in Maui got that's just to let you know like that this is a [ __ ] rigged game so even if you're not happy with what Elon Musk is doing and he has access that he shouldn't have and all this different stuff you you got to
rip the bandaid off kids this country is trillions of dollars 36 trillion dollars in debt and a lot of the stuff that's listed on us a all the stuff that's coming out all these different things that they paid for they're so frivolous and so [ __ ] insane wouldn't be too crazy it wouldn't be as crazy if we were at a $36 trillion in debt and B not taking care of people in Maui North Carolina but the fact that those things exist that those three things exist and then people are still they don't want to
say that he's right they're they're so locked into this idea like if a Democrat had found all that if Joe Biden had went in and found corruption that was in the the the halls of our government and tried to weed it out and said there's corruption in these NOS there's corruption in these you know not for profits there's a lot of corruption and influence and we're going to weed this out because we want a fair country the [ __ ] place would be cheering them this would be like some [ __ ] JFK would do
in ' 62 y everybody would be cheering him yes this is what we need a real president who's really going to come in and fix these things but because it because Trump's doing it and the way he does things it's just like he's a [ __ ] he's just did you see in the Air Force One they announced that this is the first time a president is ever flying over the Gulf of America the newly named Gulf of America that was classic I mean he doesn't miss a beat it's funny it's funny like I hope
that the good stuff from us Aid can be picked back up I hope that there's some stuff that can be reinstated because I think this genuine good that a lot of these nonprofit organizations and NGS a lot a lot of people are genuinely good people that are doing good work and it'd be good for us as a civilization to sponsor some of that but you got to know like what's fraud you know and how much of it is horseshit and how how much of it can you track there's this guy Ian Carol did you see
Ian's video about it he was saying that somewhere in the neighborhood of like 90% of this stuff that they're paying for doesn't even make it to where it's supposed to be going that it could just all a lot of it could just be fraud yep did you see that video Jamie no but I just I he makes a lot of cool videos I've seen a videos he's gotten things wrong though I know that's what makes it fun that's what that's why I like people like him him and Candace Owens they're my favorite go-tos when I
want to know who the [ __ ] lizard people are well the money we send to Ukraine and they can't find a 100 billion of it they're only missing a 100 billion John a lot of money no it's not a hundred billion dollar for all those fine weapons I don't even know what happened like where's the how'd the money get distributed like who where' it go how you missing so much I I figure a lot of it never got out of America but this is the thing about human beings if you just don't ever have
them be accountable they won't be they won't be the United States is like a meth head that we gave a checkbook to and at the end of the month we're like what the [ __ ] did you buy you know he's like don't worry man I got this I cover I'll cover it what did you buy America's a big business it's a giant business and uh we got a we got a president now that's a business guy yes I don't wake up every morning to see what the [ __ ] he's done I know that
the business is in good hands and he'll take care of it cuz when you drive through it and you see what we got going you realize man there's people trying to make it right and most of the people in America are good people it's not racists they're not sexist they're not bad people most of people that you see every day are just good people I think that's most people in the world yeah the people that aren't like that are the people that are in desperation the people that are in horrible desperation or people that have
been abused you know and I I've always said like there's this compassionate view of um immigration in this country like the progressive compassionate people their idea is we should not stop people from pursuing a better life and that they come here because where they live is [ __ ] terrible and they want to be able to come here and they want to be able to live the American dream and we should be open to that that's great but you can't do that while you're also letting in terrorists right so like what what is the what's
the solution because the solution is you bring everybody over here they commit crimes you have chaos then people demonize the rest of them who are very good people who just want a better life because the few that you let in because you didn't screen at all the few that you let in that were scumbags they're [ __ ] gang members and holding up apartment buildings and all this different crazy [ __ ] that we know is true the right way to do it is take what we have in a America the the freedom and the
the ability to prosper and expand that throughout the world like if we were good neighbors what we would try to do is turn Mexico into another America not another America culturally that's not what I'm saying but stop being run by the [ __ ] cartels stop being run by people who are selling fenel you know like figure out how to pay people like a fair wage the reason why all those Factor went down there so they could pay people slave labor make that illegal make that illegal make your own [ __ ] like we should
all help each other get to a state of living like that the whole world could live at like that seems if if that's not possible something's real wrong with the system you know like the top 1% in this country is I don't know what it is but the top 1% in the world is $34,000 a year that's how different the rest of the world is that's why they're walking here from Guatemala and I get it I get it my thought is if you want to invest money don't invest money and just like pay all these
people to live here and stay at The Roosevelt Hotel and all that crazy [ __ ] invest money in making their life better where they are y if if you could figure out how to make these places where they come from as prosperous as America wouldn't that be better y isn't that possible I mean it's got to be it's possible here how come you can't that's the best concept of spreading democracy like spread real democracy but the problem with that is we don't really spread democracy we just go over there and take over you know
we go over there and in install a puppet dictatorship and you know throw the whole [ __ ] country into a tizzy and a lot of people are getting rich off of it a lot of people getting rich this is the problem and we're reliant on cheap stuff you know I mean all these [ __ ] social justice Warriors and virtue signalers they're all doing it on phones made by slaves that's what's crazy and and the ones that want to shut the mining industry down I use gold as an example by the way Gold's gone
up a th000 an ounce since I saw you last damn ,000 an ounce it's 3,000 bucks an ounce didn't they find a gang of it in China recently oh they probably got all kinds of it in China I think China just didn't they China just found found some crazy new discovery of an enormous uh amount of gold they're they're talking about back than a crypto coin with gold it's better than money it's real not my son is a when are you going to get a uh Boneyard crypto coin 2024 November China discovered a large gold
deposit in the wangu uh gold field in the Hunan Province the discovery is estimated to be worth $83 billion doll Mak it one of the largest gold fines in history holy [ __ ] the deposit is estimated to contain over 1,000 metric tons of gold gold is located in 40 veins that extend up to 3,00 M underground the discovery was made using Advanced 3D geological modeling that's incredible isn't it amazing I mean you're a gold miner tell me like how the how do you know where to dig how do you guys find that stuff it's
real simple yeah Gold's where you find it that's the bottom line Joe right and and but once you make a discovery let's use load gold which is still in the Rock plaster gold what we do is been eroded out of the Rock and is in the concentrates on bedrock and you you got to wash it and sift it and SLO it and but uh load gold you got to crush to get the gold out of the rock ah and so from the moment of Discovery until you produce it out of that gold mine takes average
29 years whoa 29 years to go from finding it to having an operating gold mine or copper mine or Lead Mine or silver mine or zinc mine wow that's crazy crazy what's really interesting too in this country is the story of the gold miners like the San Francisco 49ers the people that came across the the the the country when they found out that they had struck gold and that must have been a really wild time a [ __ ] dangerous time too you got because you have the Lawless West and then you have a bunch
of people who are just Desperados who are pulling gold out of the ground and that guy might have pulled enough gold out of the ground to literally pay for the rest of your life Y and he's right there and no one's around I know a couple guys you couldn't tell they could rub two sticks together good friend of mine bought a bank because the bank had a big Vault he had three tons of gold that he was he was like a collector a hoarder Jesus Christ he'd been mining for 40 years what is three tons
of gold worth a lot what is that worth Jamie this is crazy let's get guess take a guess I'm so dumb I don't even know what that would mean well let me three tons of gold got to remember there's a difference between a if I was to ask you what weighs more a pound of feathers or a pound of gold what would you tell me um pound is a pound you'd be wrong because a there's 16 ounces in a pound of feathers and there's 12 ounces different ounces in a pound of gold how come just
the way it is so when you buy a pound of gold you're not getting 16 o you're getting 12 12 Troy what nationality invented that I don't want I don't want to go full Kanye here the value of three tons of gold depends on the current market value of gold which is uh constantly changing as of now 2023 one ton of pure 24 karat gold was worth about 55 million wow this dude had three tons of gold he had [ __ ] $60 million $165 million in gold just laying around that's what him and his
wife did that was what they did that is so nuts so this was just pure gold or did he have it made into ingots it's plaster gold it's the kind of we have he was on my ground and he would melt it and refine it if you wanted to get 24 Karat but it generally runs about 85% pure in its form on my Creeks so if you find a 1 oz nugget 85% of that's probably 24 Karat what's the biggest nugget you've ever found uh 33 ounces waa what does that look like uh looks like
a whale actually how big is it like in your hand I got a picture of it on my page my daughter's holding it like a old school flip phone about that big it's almost as big almost as big as a cell phone like a an iPhone almost like half of it n uh 78 really yeah damn it looks if you hold it one way it looks like a whale you flip it over it looks like a dolphin and now how much is a piece of gold like that right now well because it looks like something
it's called character oh so if you have if you have a nugget that looks like a whale or a dolphin it generally goes for four or five times World Market really so if gold is $3,000 an ounce that would be 12 to 15,000 for that character that you're buying if you find a nugget that looks like a heart No Limit really yeah it's suckers bunch of suckers out there what about one who looks like a demon that's big money if you find one that looks like a pile of dog [ __ ] you're going to
get spot Market yeah you got to find one looks like a skull oh you find a skull one oh boy oh they'll be knocking your door oh the people the the real nutty ones they be looking for the dude the rich occultists would want it part of their collection but every every little nugget has some kind of or bigger nugget has some kind of character that you keep looking for like what's this look like that makes sense that makes sense did you study the history of gold mining in this country before you got involved not
really no no I've been gold mining and I knew how to do it I wasn't worth a [ __ ] but I I'm getting better at it but it's uh it's a crazy way to make a living you know you're you're pulling the most precious thing like the thing that's probably other than diamonds which is kind of manufactured right there's probably a lot more diamonds than the value suggests don't they like hoard them up so that like it keeps the price High they do that right very smart yeah deers controls what nationality does that uh
deers but but you bring up an interesting point the history of gold mining yeah people don't they don't even know how entrenched in our everyday lingo gold mining terms are I give you an example struck at Rich struck at Rich oh the he hit the motherload right guys into he don't know the difference between [ __ ] and Shinola oh what's that [ __ ] and sh is gold really you can't tell the difference between [ __ ] and Shinola I thought it was like poop versus shoe polish shinola's gold isn't chinola shoe polish I
don't know I never had a pair of shoes that had chinola I think Shinola is a shoe polish Jamie don't turn it on I'm just get I'm 90% sure Shinola is a but I don't know which one came first like Shinola might have come after the Gold term you know it might be a recent Corporation could be but I think Shola is like an old school one like I kind of I mean maybe I'm having a fake memory but I kind of remember of it in high school like shoe polish but after today it's now
you know it's gold now well in in Gold Rush terms gold like every culture has its own little lingo yeah right yeah is it is it a shoe polish Jamie it is how long's it been around I'm looking that up now they could have stole that from gold going bust going bust yep I thought that was a gambling term I thought that was uh but it could be both right probably I mean it's those kind of things are in our language like Pay Dirt uh right you know you hit Pay Dirt right yeah right you
had gold in the dirt the the the way I've heard [ __ ] in Shinola is shits shits shits Bedrock shist sorry oh I see shist in Shinola oh shist my goal is found in shist that actually makes more sense than [ __ ] in chinola you can't tell the difference between [ __ ] and shoe polish don't you smell it right I ain't never seen a shoe with shoe polish really you've never seen a shoe with shoe polish I actually had to wear them in high school my my parents put me in a reform
school I had I have to wear them when I dress up I wear polish shoes I saw you dressed up here recently I dress up I look like a monkey with a suit on that's what I look like when I get dressed looked pretty sharp and I saw what you were wearing I feel like a fraud whenever I wear a suit like what are you doing what is this what is this thing you're wearing look pretty good thank you very much thank you yeah yeah it's hard for me I I shop at the same place
fetman shops fetterman's a an animal he goes to the [ __ ] inauguration and a pair of shorts and a hoodie got a car hard hoodie on and a pair of shorts and didn't give a [ __ ] like and he's a genuine guy he's a very nice guy yeah I I I kind of like that guy I like the guy a lot I saw him when I was there I gave him a hug talked to him he was very friendly yeah I don't like that he said no he's going to vote no on tulsy
gabri and RFK Jr I think that's terrible but yep I'm biased obviously I like both of them very much and they're both in if I'm not mistaken I don't know how this works man I'm confused about this whole process I'm confused about what's legal what's not legal what you could can and can't do what these executive orders can and can't do I'm confused how they closed the problem with the Border down in three days they just basically like completely put a stop to all the illegal coming in except for like a 100 people a day
it was thousands a day it was just an overrun of people coming through every day and they stopped it and they he said you couldn't stop it they negotiate he negotiated with Canada and with Mexico to ramp up their border stop the fentel from coming in like all this stuff seems so common sense that it's just amazing to me that people don't look at that like no one is going to trust you if all you talk about is the bad side from the other side if you don't say this is good this is good for
all of us if you don't say that if you don't you are you rooting against America because like when good things happen do you not want them to happen because a republican is President because that's a very unamerican way to look at things and I think that's where we're at these days I think there's a giant chunk of population that is so wrapped up in these social media squabbles and owning people online and talking [ __ ] and listening to videos and tick talks they're so wrapped up in this Us Versus Them [ __ ]
that they can't see that we're supposed to all be in this together and even if you don't like that guy if Trump gets in and he does something that's awesome for the country you should say that's awesome for the country yeah it's really good that terrorists aren't sneaking in through our Southern border that's really good it's really good that they find all the [ __ ] criminals that are taking over apartment buildings and Aurora Colorado and root them out yeah that's really good they should Deport them yeah they're [ __ ] criminals that shouldn't we
shouldn't have to deal with that yeah maybe we should fix everything that's going on in North Carolina yeah that's that's good for everybody it's like there's things these things are common sense that's because it's gotten so bad now that the only reason to run for politics used to be to make the money not just get reelected but it's the first thing they try to do when they get elected is start getting reelected they're making so much money that's what's look at the money when you look at the amount of money some of those Congress people
are worth and you're like you tell me how you tell me how you make $180,000 a year and you worth 30 million you tell me how you tell me how there's I can't find a way that makes any sense because you should be really busy right so if you should be really busy doing this $180,000 a year job you're who has time to have a side Hustle that that pays you 10 times more who has time who's doing that it's that's the only reason I can think of that people would want to get into that
game well I think a lot of people like being the boss there's a lot of that and a lot of people just want to be that person and when you're in a competition right a hierarchy based status competition like the president of the United States like everybody wants to be in that spot where everybody calls you sir and everybody shakes hand and foreign leaders want me you want to feel important they all do they can pretend they don't they all like it that's why they do it otherwise they wouldn't want their whole life exposed like
that and digging into your past and distortions of your character and outright lies anything to destroy you all over television because they're trying to win an election if they weren't the person that wants that spot they wouldn't do it that's why we don't get good leaders we don't get we don't get people who you would like really want to do it other than Trump and with that guy it's like he's kind of a psycho yeah he doesn't need the money he's not doing it for the money well I'm sure it helps that you can make
money doing it you know not from the salary but from a lot of other stuff like it elevates his his uh social profile for sure and makes him more popular which is part of the the brand of Donald Trump but like didn't he famously not even get a paycheck for yeah he donates his check to some organization that's [ __ ] and then this this other thing about Elon elon's going to steal everybody's money he has $400 billion I'm telling you he's not going to steal your money I'm telling you that's not what he's doing
what he's doing is he's a super genius that's been [ __ ] with okay and when you've been [ __ ] with by these nitwits that hide behind three-letter agencies and you're dealing with one of the smartest people alive and he helps Donald Trump get in office and he goes I want to find out what kind of corruption is really around well you [ __ ] up you [ __ ] up and picked the wrong psychopath on the spectrum because he's gonna [ __ ] he's gonna hunt you down he's gonna find out what's going
on and that's good that's good for everybody that's what how you should be looking at this like wow we have a brilliant mind that is examining these really [ __ ] corrupt and Goofy systems and bringing in a bunch of psychopath Wizards yeah well AOC is the one that says he's he's the most unintelligent person she's ever met did she really say that she really said that wow I want to meet her friends that probably cool imagine the conversation you'd have with her friends if he's the most most unintelligent person she's ever met wow her
friends must be amazing I want to go to one of those parties it's probably just like fascinating person after fascinating person well I wonder what she's worth and Nancy Pelosi I think is way up there in a multiple multiple million well she's psychic I don't know if you know this she's really good at the stock market like basically she meditates and she just sees it she sees how it's going to happen she should teach that huh there's a few honest ones sure there's plenty of honest just like there's plenty of uh teachers who don't get
the students drunk you know like it's the problem is not the honest ones the problem is the ones that aren't honest and there's a ton of them and they don't get rooted out because the system is so corrupt probably one of the most unintelligent billionaires I've ever met seen or witnessed that's from AOC wow you know this guy is one of the most morally vacant but also just least knowledgeable about these systems that we know of she said wow she used to own a Tesla car damn she don't own a Tesla anymore uh has a
history of public disagreements with Mr mus musk particularly over his Department of government efficiency this team has been examining government spending which has drawn sharp criticism from Democrats last week Doge gained access to Federal Payment Systems to help with its review a move that many Democrats viewed as controversial M acasio Cortez was particularly critical of the involvement of young staffers saying they don't do their homework clearly and adding that 19-year-olds were being placed in key positions at the treasury Department I love it at those get those internet Wizards On the Case only he would do
that because he understands internet culture and he understands Geniuses he understands a lot of these people of like these super brains they're 19 and they're like one of those kids he was from Omaha he figured out a way to use AI to decode burnt Scrolls my son Kinsey works for pao Alto he's got a master's degree in cyber security he's working on another one MERS in AI oh wow and uh after talking to him and seeing what he's doing he's he uh he did his master's thesis on hacking satellites and when I heard that I
thought you know that puts a whole new light on bitcoin for me oh yeah I'm going I like gold it's in your hand you can see it you can hold it you can feel it but here I brought you some Bitcoins catch I just threw you 20 of them well as soon as you have real Quantum Computing where they can run actual programs on it you're not going to have encryption anymore or you're going to have to have some new kind of encryption that we never anticipated before like maybe you turn on and off and
it's going to have to be something that the computer doesn't have access to somehow or another maybe possibly like independent of a system but independent of a system how would it even communicate with you if it's electronic if it has Wi-Fi like it's going to get into it there's you're not going to be able to stop something that's infinitely more intelligent than any human being from deciphering any kind of goofy ass encryption you have some [ __ ] stupid Apple complex password that it pick for you see I I I'm just not I just don't
understand it I mean for two years Bitcoin went after the Gold Miners seeing why why why would you invest in gold when you can invest in Bitcoin so I don't have a problem with Bitcoin I mean the guys that are making money on are making bank they're doing great I'm telling you we need a Boneyard we need a Boneyard coin we do how about a Boneyard coin just don't do a pump and dump that's the key you can have your own money can we make it out not been talking about it can we make a
real make it out of gold real ones yeah one penny weight coins there's 20 Penny weights in an ounce and there's an opening right now cuz Trump just banned the penny it's about time each one of those pennies worth about six cents 2 cents it costs us 2 cents to make make it yeah but the copper itself oh really oh yeah you got to mine it really so each penny is worth six cents I'm going to say 5 cents wow because he added two cents to it so you actually could profit from melting pennies people
been collecting pennies for a long time right but melting them down to sell it for raw copper is actually what's the price of copper these days and you can figure out how many oun how many pennies makes a pound I remember when I was doing construction one of the sites that one one of the guys had got robbed where they stole all the copper pipes and I was like what like how much is copper worth it's worth a lot I would have never imagine that us pennies were made of 2.5% copper and 97.5% zinc that's
the the modern Penny Penny contains a small amount of copper that's plated on top of a zinc base oh interesting yeah but that's that's today's Penny not not from 1982 they were made in 95% copper yep okay so in the ' 80s they were real pennies so if you get one of them old pennies that's a valuable Penny you weigh a penny to determin it's copper or zinc a copper penny weighs 3.11 Gams while zinc Penny weighs 2.5 interesting yeah coins are weird like enough of that I [ __ ] I know it's stupid because
you are like a part of the system and you can't control but I love paying for things with my phone I love going looking in my face and press it on the register and thank you I see guys do it all the time I don't know how to do it I love it it's like I feel I'm living in the future it's my favorite it's so irrational it's my favorite thing to do is to pay for [ __ ] with my phone I could pay I would pay for everything with my phone if I could
I used to in Jacksonville just use your face touch it and it pays for anything I love I'm so stupid I love the little check that comes up oh yay I paid for it you go through a drive-thru to get food and you see the guy in front of you aiming his phone at somebody inside right I don't see any cash flying around right it's weird it is weird it's weird because like who's controlling it and if you have the same sort of oversight that you had with all the stuff that doge is showing where
it's all this corruption and waste and hundred billion dollars is missing from Ukraine and like what what you do how many how much money did you spend on these [ __ ] charging stations and how many have you made all that kind of stuff if you if you look at all if that's all applied to money too and it's digital money like how do I know where you have it if you even have it right because this is part of the problem with money in banks that they don't really have all the money that you
put in there like if you put in $10 million to a bank guess what they don't have $10 million to give you like if you say I want my $10 million back that's a process like they had they have to get it they're going to really try to discourage you it's you can't get it that day there's going to be a lot of things have to happen if you show up at a bank and you're [ __ ] Jeff Bezos or something where they're not worried about where it came from and you want to deposit
$1 million and you have a [ __ ] bag and you're wheeling in on like a luggage cart and it's $10 million they count it they put it in there yeah but it's not there anymore they're going to do they're going to loan that out they're going to do stuff with it they don't have it right there yeah no no it's all so it's all weird like the whole economy is weird everything's weird cuz since we went off the gold standard it's like what what is it based on and how do you guys just print
more of it every time you need something every time you want to do something you just print more I'm old enough to know and remember if you were in a bank and a guy walks in wearing a [ __ ] mask usually had to hit the floor right but there's a bank I go to in Jacksonville where you walk in the bank and the tellers are wearing masks I'm going this ain't right and I go what are you wearing a mask for well they're mentally ill what are you wearing a mask for well I think
a lot of people weren't really doing well before Co you know there's a lot of people that are fragile they're barely hanging on already you know a lot of people are like really anxious about diseases I have friends that are like that I know few guys in the comedy community that really cracked during that time cuz they were already filled with anxiety and some of them were already hypo contracts and they cracked and uh they're not the same people anymore like people don't want to hang out with them anymore they're weird like they're they're just
they're just broken and they wear masks everywhere This One bank I went to teller's wearing a mask the next tell her over is not wearing a mask she's probably a republican that's what it is it's a Maga hat it's a democrat's Maga hat and you see them driving around with the mask on car that's my favorite well that's they're they're they might as well have fox ears on they're mentally ill and I you know we're out on the field we're out mining got lot of dust flying around we wear we have masks on yeah but
that's big that's a big difference it [ __ ] invisible viruses as you're driving your car by the way I think fox ears are more noble cuz F if you put like little fox ear on you're like one of those furries at least you just having a good time yeah you know like you're just having a good time you like wearing fox ears who gives a [ __ ] the mask is just stupid it's just you what what do you like smelling your own breath what do you like not being able to breathe as good
what do you like what do you like pretending that viruses can't get through those [ __ ] gaping holes that are all around the outside of your face and through the fabric which is the reason why you can breathe in the first place you [ __ ] idiot we made a bunch of masks with my logo on it so you know you're wearing one of these logos on your face like that go [ __ ] yourself we uh had JRE masks that we were selling during the pandemic and sanj gooped up brought one in like
it was a gotcha like you sell mask like yeah cuz people have to wear them not cuz they make sense yeah they don't make any sense you know they don't make sense shut the [ __ ] up that was one of the weirdest beginnings of Co of Co when I started really wondering how anybody could believe that this stupid surgical mask which is supposed to stop like driplets of spit and food from your mouth dropping into a wound as you're operating they're not supposed to protect you from viruses that's not what they're there for the
fact that people started wearing those to and then some people were just wearing bandanas and my favorite which is maybe the dumbest of all time people would wear that Shield oh so it's open air open air all this is open and then there's a shield and they would be walking down the street with a [ __ ] Shield over their face like this is mental illness that's all this is this is not this is just people responding to stress that they can't handle and they're freaking out that's all this is this isn't normal and the
more we allow this the more we rationalize this and the more we we enable this by not telling them they're [ __ ] ridiculous take your goddamn mask off when you come into the store no you can't come to the store like you're going to rob it it's 2025 take that [ __ ] stupid thing off and the more you don't you allow people to just continue with this delusion they get in these social groups on on Twitter and they talk about the power of the mask and I feel so much better when I'm wearing
a mask and you know I'm I'm being safer for others and they all agree with each other I'm like you're you're all you should be in an asylum you should all go to Alaska and see what bears look like in the fles you should go go salmon fishing get the [ __ ] outside your house you're sick yep well you know I don't want to put a mask on cuz I'm pretty good-looking and [ __ ] I hear you bro yeah you know the problem I hear you yeah Jamie's pretty good looking too also you're
a giant like you with a mask on is scary cuz it's like what is he up to why is he covering his face what's his plans well the doctor told me we had lunch with him about a week ago he says the one that the told me quit smoking he goes um when I first saw you I was wondering what the hell am I going to do here because I'm sitting in there and he has no idea what my ailment is right and so I am a big guy and the one benefit that came from
this is I don't smoke and I still do the CrossFit even though you look at me you can't tell but I've been doing it for a while well that's great yeah it is that's more important really than anything I would say if I had to choose between one thing that you should do to make yourself healthy I would say exercise maybe even over food yeah I'd say maybe it's close it's real close food's probably maybe but no you got to exercise too it's almost they're almost like cancel each other out Megan or equal rather my
trainer was Megan was telling me that uh there's a difference between sick care and health care and I said what is it she goes well sick care is when you're sick you go to the doctor help healthare is your exercise all the things you do to keep yourself healthy you don't want to be sick right and we're not paying attention to the healthc care part you're right so we got to get you fit got to get you fit got to get you dieting I you got to get you to eat only meat try that is
what they call the keto carnivore carnivore carnivore diet I could do that one that's the move I'm telling you cut yeah I do that whenever I do that I feel way better I do it like in sprints because I'm Italian and Italians love pizza and pasta I love that [ __ ] if I go to New York I'm breaking my diet I'm going to get sandwiches from my man giovan's Deli I'm going to I'm going to eat Italian food I'm going to go off I need it every now and then I just want to have
it just for the are you like to have eggs on that one yeah you could have eggs I eat eggs all the time the whole idea is you're only eating animal products you're I don't eat anything else other than some fruit I'll eat like an orange or a banana here and there I'll have some blueberries with some yogurt but the the idea is what you're really doing is mostly eating meat and so most of my diet is red meat and when I eat like that I feel so much better I feel clearheaded I have more
energy um like it's more stable throughout the day I feel like my brain functions better when I eat carbs I just start getting sloppy I just start getting slow it's like I don't think there anything wrong with carbohydrates don't get me wrong but I do think that they're really easy to overc consume and if you're a glutton which I definitely am I'm a glutton I will eat two pizzas if you give me some [ __ ] good some really good like New York pizzas I will eat two of those [ __ ] I will I
will eat until I'm sick I just I've always been like that I always eat too much food I just I'm I I have an appetite that just it just won't stop with pasta but not with steak steak cuts you off there's a thing about eating protein steak things like chicken you don't eat too much of it you eat enough and then you stop you it's they have what's called a high satiety level like high protein foods have a very high satiety level and so like I'll eat like a 16 o elk steak I don't want
to have nothing else I'm good but if there's spaghetti there and if there's some [ __ ] macaroni and cheese you know if there's a potato salad if there's a little then I'll start keep I'll keep going I'll keep eating and then I'll have way more calories really than I need with the same amount of nutrients the thing is like for performance for like athletes I don't think the carnivore diet's the right way to go I think you should supplement with there's nothing wrong with I don't think there's anything wrong with rice I don't think
there's anything wrong with uh with vegetables I don't think there's anything wrong with fruit I think the real problem with a lot of people is pastas and Breads and just processed food and garbage you know I think just eating poison most of the day I think if you can just eat regular whole food I think you're better off but I think you got to even now I think you have to clean your rice because I've been I keep hearing [ __ ] about rice having glyphosate on it is that is that true they were I
was reading this thing about rice being a uh I know it's the case with corn and wheat they think that's why some people have what they perceive to be a gluten sensitivity but they really probably are getting sick from glyphosate which is so crazy to think but they it sounds nuts but then they've tested people and they found of the group that they tested like 90% of them had traceable levels of glyphosate in their blood glyphosate drift to Rice a problem for us all yeah here it is this is from 2011 [ __ ] damage
inflicted by deric glyphosate during this period is often invisible and not noticed until Harvest damage is characterized by significantly decreased yields and Milling the rice often exhibits a first signal that has been hit with a drift kernel shaped like a parrot's beak this is so dark and then you eat it yay yay it's like you know the reality is farming and I'm no farmer right be clear I don't know what I'm talking about but I've talked to a bunch of farmers I've talked to you know these guys like Joel salatin who runs out polyface Farms
or will har us who ons white runs White Oak pastures these guys who run these regenerative Farms what they're saying makes sense they're saying the other way is suicide the other way is bad for the land it's bad for the people it's bad for the environment you're using tons of chemicals the way to do it is the way Nature has been doing it for millions of [ __ ] years you have a bunch of cows they [ __ ] in the grass you have a bunch of pigs they root things up you have a bunch
of chickens they eat all the bugs everybody lives together everybody Nutri Nutri nutrient rich soil they're all like a part of this complete system this complete ecological system and it's carbon neutral they say that when they raise cows like that they actually sequester carbon the question is can you feed everybody in LA and New York like that I don't think so so it's like what did we do we got so far ahead of ourselves that it seems like we've have this requirement for food that almost demands this kind of crazy farming that's where it's [
__ ] because if they don't Farm like that if everybody has to go to like a Joel Sal and Will Harris model is there enough land to grow enough meat like that is there enough land to let all the pigs loose is there enough land to have all the chickens just roaming around is there enough land for that I don't know they have some big farms on the way over that we saw coming across there's a lot of people eating there's not a single Farm in LA and there's 20 million hungry people just scarfing up
food all day long and you need all these these Farms out there just constantly making life forms for people to consume it's really a crazy crazy thing that we've done cuz we've like completely overpopulated areas where they don't grow any food it's like the dumbest strategy of all time we rely 100% on Transportation that's right and uh you know people say oh there there's a Revolution coming it's here I mean the revolution is here what we're seeing right now is history being made because the people that have been taken advantage of forever in my opinion
are the people that are out there producing the farmers the miners sure and the guys that I think really control have their hand on the throttle of this country if they ever decide to take their hand off the throttle is the truckers without the truckers nobody eats you're right nobody you get nothing yeah that those are the people that are going to suffer the most with Ai Ai and automation once they have those Tesla trucks that can just drive themselves they never get into car accidents those [ __ ] things are everywhere you never have
to worry about them staying up all night and whether or not they're going to make a mistake behind the wheel once they get that totally dialed in we're going to have a real problem that's going to be a real problem because you're going to have so many people out of work and so many people that are going to say hey figure it out well they've been delivering your stuff you've been depending upon them every Amazon package you order every time you get anything delivered to your house anytime you're moveing any time anytime you're relying on
truck drivers and that job's just going to go away yep and that's a lot of people I think didn't we looked up the number of people that drive trucks or drive that do uh that are drivers whether it's taxi drive I think they put them all together like people who drive for a living I think it's more than a million think more than a million just truck drivers that's crazy like that one invention will put a million people out of work I don't know it's going to have to be an awful big truck to handle
copper have you seen those Tesla trucks not the big ones they're just the beginning the ones that they have now are just the beginning United States has over 3.5 million professional truck drivers drivers but the trucking industry is facing a shortage of drivers wow so they need more they have over 3.5 million and they they need more Google uh Tesla semi this thing's crazy looking this looks like something straight out of a science fiction movie it's a giant electric go to images um it looks like something out of a [ __ ] science fiction movie
it's a giant electric truck it makes no noise other than the TIR like you hear the tires rolling around the ground you don't hear any this the look at the seat of this [ __ ] thing two screens and it drives itself and they're going to be really good at driving themselves like right now they're really good but they're going to be really really really good they're going to be better than people so they're not going to make any mistakes and they're going to be safe and as long as all their sensors are working and
long as all their equipment is Rel reliable they'll be better at detecting accidents and stopping accidents and avoiding things than people are Elan said today they're going to start the driverless Teslas in Austin in June as like for taxi cabs bro how long before they get attacked by the free Palestine people that's the other thing we found out through all this Doge stuff how how much of this stuff that you see that you think is organic these these riots and protests how much of that is funded how much of that is how much are we
paying for the decisions that are costing us that like how much we're spending money to like $27 million went to the George Soros da fund that's so crazy that's more than he puts in we were we were paying to get shitty Das elected it's nuts and anybody who doesn't think it's nuts it's like listen you're not paying attention you you're captured you must be captured by and this is not saying that USA doesn't do good things I'm sure they do but the amount of things that they do that are ridiculous are should concern you and
if it doesn't concern you we're talking nonsense we're not having a real conversation that's what I don't get about the blues and the Reds yeah there's got to be some people on the blue side that go it's a good idea that we're doing this yeah what he's doing is a good idea cuz we're squandering a lot of money there's a lot of people like that but they're quiet cuz the blues will come for you well that I don't know if you noticed but after the election at least in my my opinion for myself I had
the right to make an opinion again I could have an opinion yes I can have an opinion finally finally I can have an opinion after four [ __ ] years isn't that weird it did really feel like that like the consciousness of the country was like a rat like we're going to rat on you and you you you you couldn't just have fun and talk about things you couldn't have an opinion that wasn't like R out of mainstream news you had a 100% tow the line or you were attacked I I put in one post
I put I have an opinion I'm going to use it again I think we should sink every commercial whaling ship in the ocean send him to Davy Jones Locker you get a lot of support behind that you get a lot of support from the environmental people too there's a push back on that 27 million George S stuff oh really what's the push back that it's uh not true what do they say uh there's a long tweet if you want me to bring sure bring it up I thought it was 58 million it's it's on the
side of the page here though okay uh the claim that Mike Ben establishes in his research is that us Aid paid out $27 million in Grants to the tide Foundation B the ties Foundation is a major funer of the Soros back group fair and just prosecution Ben frames this as though it's evidence of us a funding fair and just prosecution that seems like it is um this framing only works you have no idea what the tides Foundation is or how large foundations like it operate Tides is an intermediary funer meaning that it facilitates grants from
or originating granters the money people to receive grantees the people getting the money if you're a big organization like USA you don't give money to tides to do with it what they will you forward money through tides to a specific recipient of your choosing why do you send your money through middlemen instead of giving it directly for the same reason people always use middlemen to facilitate contracts because middlemen know how to deal with paperwork to supervise contracts and so on did USA give money to fjp you can figure that out quickly for yourself go to
usaspending.gov set keywork tides and awarding agency to us Aid click submit go to tab grants tab you will see four Grants open each one the line share of us Aid's money came to a single Grant of 24.6 million if you click through you see this described as a Civil Society Innovation initiative Fiscal Agent read that that sounds orwellian Civil Society Innovation initiative Fiscal Agent the Fiscal Agent description means that the tide Center acted as a middleman for the government's money the Civil Society Innovation initiative was the end recipient already the fjp US Aid link has
been broken but what else can we say about this grant well that doesn't seem like it's been broken that seems like you've given this money to an agency or to this this group it doesn't you haven't disproven that this group is attached to Soros says first off CS2 was awarded the Grant in 2016 fjp the Soros org was founded a year later in 2017 still doesn't mean they don't work together now and it doesn't mean that he wasn't a part of the people that were do I mean like it's I'm not saying he is and
I'm not saying he was but I'm saying this is not disproving anything as far as I can tell by Googling there has never been any organizational affiliation between the two organizations okay by Googling that's it you just Googled I want you to Google vaccine injuries and tell me if there's any good luck good luck covid-19 vaccine injuries tell me you could decide everything that you need to know about covid-19 vaccine injuries by a Google search you're not going to right right okay so by Googling there's never been any organizational affiliation between the two organizations c2's
work appears to be funding Civil Society organizations csos abroad what does that mean as far as I can tell that's a little vague it mainly means they give money out to nonprofits in foreign countries to do things like Monitor and fight disease spread monitor human rights abuses this sounds a little like whitewashing promoting digital security and so on they do only good things John they definitely don't get involved in Shady characters that are trying to rewrite the way our legal system deals with violent criminals nah I I've never understood Soros I don't get it either
Elon M hates him I you know I I have a limited amount of knowledge but I do know that he spends a lot of money on these like super Progressive liberal Das I don't know whether or not Mike Benz who's going to be here soon can really Trace that 27 million I'll ask him but the end of the line it's like this is all vague like what is that what's that 24 million going to like what what it it might be going to fight diseases it might be go or sure or you don't know how
about you don't know and all you did was Google whether or not those people know each other that's crazy doesn't mean they do it doesn't mean it's corrupt it doesn't mean it goes to Soros funds but you didn't disprove it well that's anymore you can't hardly tell what's true I mean the rumors that are floating around are is it AI is it true is it what am I looking at yeah a lot of AI stuff and the and the rumors I've we're talking about rumors on the drive and I'm going sometimes you just can't do
anything about them you just got to let them run and then if you can improve them if you're involved in it improve it somehow to make it a better rumor one of the most recent rumors and I was looking talking to Drew this morning the the rumor that Elon Musk was going to put four commercials on the Super Bowl about Doge and all the things they're fine things they're doing yeah he didn't do that I wonder if that's even legal that was fake news right but that seems like if you can make a stylish video
about I wonder if that's legal right like I don't know what the rules are I don't even know if it should be legal like what are the rules in terms of if you're if you're involved in some sort of a government agency or a government Discovery agency which is like what doge is right if you're involved in that like would you be able to propagandize to the people even in a positive way even if it's true like make a video showing how amazing a job you're doing and do it in a cinematic way that makes
it compelling that seems like a lot of influence right yeah supposedly he was going to spend 40 million on it or something like that yeah but that's just the internet I know it's crazy I didn't even ask him and then I went on on line looking for them yeah well I was thinking every at least there's going to be one a quarter didn't see one in the first quarter the second quarter of the half and uh by then the game was kind of over well that's like when everybody thought that JFK Jr was going to
come back to life and show up in Dallas and yeah there's a lot of those online that you have to wonder what those are cuz uh I used to think oh there's just some idiot made this up but now now I'm more inclined to think that some of that is just more disinformation that's designed to muddy the Waters of truth and the more of that the better the more it makes it easy to like move stuff around and you forget about other things like what's Benghazi I got this to worry about and there's like always
some new thing that's popping up everywhere and it's like keep you distracted completely Trump's going to have four commercials about how El mus no nothing not one commercial yep I did think it was interesting that Taylor Swift got booed we talked about that there's that was crazy Max and Max and Drew out there was saying it's because 75% of the people were Phillies fans in that Stadium I don't know could be fake news the dude tweeted I hate Taylor [Laughter] Swift Jesus Christ so ridiculous imagine like you being the people that are around him and
you see that tweet like oh [ __ ] take his phone away satire the claim about Elon spending $40 million on ads for the Super Bowl originated from the Tik Tock account Brian banjo Brian banjo is a satire account oh okay so people just ran with it there you go had the wrong date on it apparently that makes sense that makes sense I saw a clip this morning with George Lucas was saying that he filmed the moon landing Oh you mean sanry cub or I'm sorry yeah that is an actor that's doing that and that's
why it's like a really close cropped footage of him you don't like zoom in he doesn't quite look like cubric but he looks like a weird old guy with a beard and so if you don't know what cubric looks like yeah it's yeah not cubrick but if anybody faked the moon landing it was that guy what about buz's Aldren have you he I think he came out and said no I I would know we didn't land there well he said some weird stuff but the weird stuff you could attribute to like Biden type weird stuff
like when you get old sometimes the the old Dome don't work so good and you your words come out goofy like he was talking to that young girl cuz it didn't happen we never went like he said something weird like that but I think as a conspiracy theorist I want to believe that that's him letting everybody know that's not nearly as interesting as the um the Neil Armstrong one the Neil Armstrong one is crazy and this is at the 25th anniversary of the moon landing he gives a speech in front of America's best and brightest
high school students and instead of saying I went to the Moon it was amazing he gives the most cryptic explanation for what they have to do in order to progress in science play it for me Jamie because when you see it when you listen to like what the [ __ ] is he saying and why would you ever say that when you're given a speech to the best high school students in the country at the White House why would you say this like anniversary of the event in 1994 Neil Armstrong made a rare public appearance
and held back tears as he spoke these brief cryptic remarks before the next generation of taxpayers as they toured the White House today we have with us uh a group of students among America's best to you we say we have only completed a beginning we leave you much that is undone there are great ideas undiscovered breakthroughs available to those who can remove one of Truth protective layers what the [ __ ] does that mean breakthroughs for those who can remove one of truth's protective layers truth's protective layers what the [ __ ] does that mean
like why would you say that that is so cryptic I don't care what reasonable explanations you have that is undeniably cryptic and if you're a person that did something in 1969 that no one's come even close to recreating today it's a little weird yeah it's a little weird and that's just part of what's a little weird about it it's a little weird that it's got a almost a religious connotation to it where people want to believe in it like they believe in the resurrection they want to believe in it despite any evidence I believe in
the resurrection more how about that take that rumor and twist it around however you want make it make it something you can deal with the moonlanding one I'm like I don't know I don't think so though I don't know but if I had to guess I don't think so and then um what's really weird is we had that Bart sail guy on that was his documentary a Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon um he was showing us some footage where the Russians had used AI to do an analysis on some of the
photos from the Moon and they said that they were deceptive so they use AI on all these other images it can shows like like a high 90% accuracy whether or not something has been [ __ ] with and they're like these are all these have been monkeyed with all edited you don't know what to believe I mean I just saw a clip yesterday with my voice again talking about be selling I sent you something I sent you one of them oh yeah no it has you and me in it talking like this and we're talking
about some space Enterprise with starships and [ __ ] and I'm going how do they do this they can do a whole podcast with your voice now not not only they do a whole podcast with your voice AI could generate the content like you'd say I want to talk to John Reeves about biological evolution and what the current state of science is and what the future holds for us and that'll be used in the clip that we're going to see within a week probably your voice probably because they could make a onh hour podcast with
you just relaying the current state-ofthe-art and science it's it's really wild and it's probably going to get worse like it's going to be it's going to be so good that I'm I'm going to think it's you or I'm going to think it's me I'm like maybe I forgot about that one you know as I get older you know I forget [ __ ] you know I I think it's true I think that's a defense mechanism I don't want to remember built us to much I don't want to remember that one I'll forget about that one
but um you know we we both made it around one more time around the Sun yeah and um it's been an unbelievable year you know the what we've both seen in the last year it's definitely been a it's a wild time to be alive right yep yeah but filled with turmoil I think it's also because it's so quick the information that you can get is coming at you from every direction yeah instantly instantly but in 1920 that wasn't happening no wasn't happening in 1880 no it was like you didn't know like when Seward bought Alaska
it was didn't know what why he did that all everybody said Seward's folly how about Seward's genius they they thought it was a bad deal yeah $7 million for Alaska that's so funny two cents an acre now let me tell you something a guy named Claus naski who was a doctor of history at University of Alaska I used to teach his kid how to swim him and I were at a social function someplace and we were talking and we're talking about the purchase of Alaska and he goes you know why we did that right I
said well yeah Seward wanted to buy it and 7 million bucks he goes yeah we gave 7 million doar to Russia I said okay that's yeah they sold it to us he goes um why do you think they did that I said I don't know they said it because the seals were gone you know all the they had gotten all the seals trade done he that's not why during the Civil War Russia blockaded Charles Harbor with their warships and it helped the north win Civil War and a bill for that was $7 million and they
knew they couldn't just go out to America and say yeah the Russians helped us win the civil war really this is what he told me doctor of history and I and I said the same thing he goes yeah he goes no he talks about it nobody even mentions it but Russia took the 7 milon and they gave us Alaska that'll justify this $7 million wow what do you think about the idea of the United States taking over Canada well it makes Alaska the third largest [ __ ] State first we got to get Greenland let's
get Greenland so we got him surrounded kind of I thought he was just joking around about Canada but he seems serious well I think Drew Drew was talking about this the other day Canada's Got seven I I'm not sure how many provinces but they're different and so what they might want to do is make seven new States because the people in Alberta do different stuff yeah than the people in you can't just have the state of Canada no because they it'd be like LA and New York colony elections no it' be way worse because Montreal
and Quebec is French I mean it's basically French speaking everyone speaks French it's it's so different than the rest of the country I mean there's a lot of French people people in Canada in general but it there's way more on the East Coast the Vancouver and Montreal very different places like you got to they have to be different cities man you can't different states you can't have them be just one part of a big country if there's seven different provinces yeah so we have seven new States now fine why not what we can't count past
51 what is that well people ridiculous people forget what it's like to expand America the last time we did it was Alaska people just get scared of it they get scared of the idea of the Empire the American Empire expanding it makes you think about Hitler makes you think about fascism and dangerous you know military decisions that get made take over countries and wars that happen that's what people get scared of but if Canada just wants to join that would be pretty cool yeah they got a lot of Natural Resources yeah um also their government's
goofy as [ __ ] you guys don't even even have freedom of speech you should be protected by the Constitution yeah then they get the Second Amendment yeah and the that well they used to have gun laws over there that were pretty favorable but then when Trudeau came around like you can't even you can't even give someone a handgun I don't think anymore it's gotten well I know a few Canadians they don't like they don't like Trudeau they don't like what he's done to the country well there's got to be somebody that likes him he
keeps winning he's got he's got it's just num so kind they're so nice that they're like willing to give a a dork like that a second and a third [Laughter] chance well the the farmers don't like them I don't think the miners don't like them well certainly the truck drivers they're involved in that trucker Convoy that was crazy and not just the trucker Convoy but the people that donated to the trucker Convoy got their bank account shut down which is just crazy that's just crazy like you you got to have laws against that you that's
tyranny you can't allow people to shut down someone's entire bank account they can't feed themselves because they donated to a person who's politically opposed to what you're doing yeah yeah anyways Alaska I think coming from the guy that told me that he's dead now but I believe it but back then there was no fact Checkers there was no way to tell people what was going on so let's just tell them we we we bought it that's interesting Russia helped the United States when the Civil War see have you ever found anything on that Jamie no
I've never heard that before I wouldn't be surprised though I'm sure back then they could hide all kinds of [ __ ] too the north didn't have the the Navy how much do you think Greenland's worth I was talking to my accountant this [Laughter] morning I think Greenland if it became a state it would be the largest state in the country oh yeah it's big spot and then Alaska would be second but Texas is always be screwed no matter how many more States we get Texas is always going to go down the list yep uh
still huge Greenland then Canada Alaska America I kind of like Mexico too might as well take the whole all of it I don't think the Mexico is a big down with that the Mexicans would probably be very upset if we try to take over Mexico but it would be nice if Mexico had the same opportunities as America and that it wasn't so so attractive to try to swim across the river to get here well what I don't get Joe we got a pretty good Navy we got a pretty good Air Force we got a pretty
good military base what the [ __ ] are we doing not sending a10s down there into Mexico and taking those fentanyl Labs out what are you going to do Mexico you don't like us doing that we just said they're terrorists we're going to blow up their [ __ ] buildings we'll tell them we're coming but we're going to blow the [ __ ] out of that stuff they're going to have no infrastructure left what are you going to do no more avocados give me a [ __ ] break send some a10s I I've had A10
on my ground with buzzing my ground for years they practice on my ground well they're awesome those Pilots are good yeah um couple little War Hogs in there and to take care of business what do you think that looks like a war with the cartels I've stumbled across this but that doesn't exactly say the same it says while all this is transpiring one of the most unusual events in diplomatic and Naval history occurred Russia dispatched her Atlantic and Pacific Naval squadrons to the United States ports they arrived in New York and San Francisco respectively in
September 1863 at a time when the tide of War had turned in the favor of the north at Gettysburg and Vicksburg The Fleets remained the United States waters for about 7 months before being ordered to return to their Homeland oh they had a they didn't they must have had Wooden Ships then because I just found their first uh Ironclad ship was built in Britain in 1861 whoa and set at state in Russian Waters the entire time who they had their own Civil War just after BR they were going to war with wood ships gangster they
knocked the [ __ ] out of the seal um population oh I'm sure oh yeah they were really good at what what did they used to be like seals everywhere up there oh yeah yeah and are they endangered now like what's the I don't really know cuz I don't we don't have any in our area but I have a friend that's a mechanic who's telling me he had a lady come into His auto shop and um said something was wrong with her engine and so he went out and told her he said it looks like
you blew a seal no she said no I had tuna fish for lunch yeah you don't tell a comic a joke do you yeah yeah yes I've been saving that one I know that uh Native uh alaskans are allowed to hunt seals and they eat them yeah but regular people can't I think they share there's weird rules on that though yeah you might be able to share but you subsistance subsistance harvesting yeah you ever watched that show Life Below Zero I have seen that yeah part of that show was like this one guy was living
with this uh Native Alaskan wife and their kids and they would go hunt the seals and she would like shoot the seals and she had to pull the trigger then he could help like butcher him up says there's about 141,000 of non-glacial areas now now um the Wikipedia says that there were 300,000 for once's population in 1850s oh no that's sea otters oh so yeah I guess I read that wrong it says once a population of $300,000 300,000 sea otters are was almost extinct Russia needed money after being defeated by France and Britain in the
Crimean War the California Gold Rush show that if gold were discovered in Alaska Americans Canadians could overwhelm the Russian presence in what one scholar later described as siberia's Siberia however the principal reason for the sale was that the hardto defend Colony would be easily conquered by British forces based in neighboring Canada in any future conflict and Russia did not wish to see its arch rival being next door just across the Bearing Sea therefore Emperor alexanderi decided to sell the territory the Russian government discussed the proposal in 1857 and 1858 and offered to sell the territory
to the United States so is before all that in the War hoping that its presence in the region would offset the plans of Britain however no deal was reached as the risk of an American Civil War was more pressing concern in Washington plausible space for our new news today in this story our new news what he said about the Russian ships that kind of fits it could happen yes because it says 1857 1888 uh 1858 they agreed to sell it and offered to sell so they agreed but then they had to put it on on
the back burner because of the war so then after the war they bought it so it might have been that they said look we'll still buy it but we help us out this is how we got a cover yeah that makes sense yeah well this guy's like Dr ameritus in history I mean he knows the [ __ ] or he did the problem is then you have to trust those guys I'd rather trust Wikipedia yeah anything I read on Wikipedia's got to be true way less the others now 70,000 oh there's only 70,000 left that's
sea otters though yeah yeah yeah sea otter are vicious little [ __ ] that slingsby up there in Gnome he sees a lot of that kind of stuff otters all the sea life up there oh yeah you follow him yeah there's a giant difference between like the coastal Alaska and regular Alaska Coastal Alaska is wild he he he went out and just slayed the king crab last year oh I'm sure yeah but that is not worth dying for that show the the most deadly Harvest or deadliest Harvest whatever show I watched that show I go
guys get out of there I haven't seen that show you never seen that show you know the show Jamie right the it's what isn't it called deadliest harvest the the crab fishing show oh yeah yeah is that what it's called Deadliest Catch Deadliest Catch that's right Deadliest Catch that's right yeah they're way out in the middle of the freaking ocean there yeah and they're [ __ ] rocking back and forth guys fall overboard sometimes [ __ ] that yeah no that's that's crazy fall for crap and I get it I want crab too but not
that bad guys you get it from slingsby big crabs you know he goes out drills through the ice and brings them up through the ice oh yeah he gets them in the winter time really y so it's ocean ice it's right offshore right there in Gnome so you can walk on the ocean ice oh yeah out there yeah yeah how thick is the ocean ice thick thicker than [ __ ] I didn't even know we had that I mean I got obviously because of glaciers but I didn't even think that there was like places where
you could walk over frozen ocean and drill through it they have a they have a gold mining show that they they film off the coast and know where they cut through the ice and they send divers down with suction dredges whoa It's on Discovery Channel to look for gold yeah cut through the ice dive through a [ __ ] hole in the ocean ice forget the name of that show what is that cold plunge like how long can they stay down there some of them stay down there all day eight hours they'll do a whole
shift um how can you do that they have suits on that keep and they have warm water pumped into your wet suit or your dry suit how how deep are they down there here you go is this the show yeah Bearing Sea Gold yeah I've met her before she's a nice lady she's an opera singer this is crazy this the way that people live so differently in the world there people that this is their reality they get a little ice fishing Hut they set them up oh what they're doing is just unbelievable so what's he
doing now he's cutting holes in the he's getting ready to go down yeah SE pal wrecky and this guy's got this suit it's and so how deep is he going they go down about 30t [ __ ] that oh Jesus Christ look at this [ __ ] this dude [ __ ] this this this creeps me out just just watching it and so they go all the way to the bottom to get gold they must have a lot of gold down there there's a lot of gold down there like how much is this worth 29
degrees Fahrenheit temperature of the water [ __ ] I mean he has to get uh he has to get through the overburden but it's worth it yeah I mean he does quite well what's quite well like what do you think these guys pull a year well they probably make more off Discovery Channel than they do gold mining really yeah I think they're well I don't know I know a few of these guys they don't get much gold but they're but they're willing to do that oh yeah for not much gold yeah but they get a
pretty good paycheck you got to remember something you know this there's nothing real about reality TV that's true nothing that's true we did we did a stint with the Discovery Channel I'm sorry National Geographic no more a disaster well yeah I mean they they want they want to make drama they want to pit the kids against each other oh yeah yeah we don't no no no no no no we don't do that [ __ ] isn't that hilarious like they that's all those shows all those shows are like that they're all like someone squabbling it's
all Housewives and Y you got to hate on her and hate on him those are good oh these little Breakers yeah these are good you want one no thanks so you you're off nicotine entirely well I do the Zin once in a while once in a while doctor my doctor said that the these are Tucker Carlson's mies his own Alps oh does he yeah I'll give you one oh cool no I uh I was talking to the doctor you know he says you might go through some nicotine withdrawals and I said no I won't I
quit I'm done he says it's not the it's not the nicotine that's hurting you it's the smoking that's hurting you the carcinogenics going in your lungs and all the chemicals and all that [ __ ] he says nicotine's as good as caffeine MH just straight up nicotine's fine yeah I believe that and I'm going okay I like that I've tried it it's also it's a legitimate cognitive enhancer it's a legitimate what they call a neut Tropic it really does affect you cognitively the thing is like your the best way to get it is a cigarette
and like doing it that way is killing you it kills everybody just takes it robs you gives you something and it robs you y gives you something takes a little away and you don't notice you don't notice yeah I in my case I got to the point in my life where I'm going I've done it for so long something's going to get me yeah but now I realize hey it won't be it won't be that it won't be smoking it might be a a bear coming you know coming up on me without me seeing it
might F drive a cat over the edge I don't know what'll happen but I honestly never thought I'd get past 50 when I was growing up I thought I'd be dead by 45 why child of the 70s man it's all [ __ ] up back seat belts yeah you know that the there's a former governor of Alaska named Walter hickle that Richard Nixon appointed to be Secretary of the Interior in 1970 so he went and did that and uh went into Nixon one day and says the Vietnam war is wrong Nix Nixon goes you're fired
and get out of here so he went back to Alaska he became a governor great governor probably one of the best Governors we ever had and at some point he was a republican but the Republicans already had a candidate the Democrats had a candidate so he ran as an Alaskan for Independence candidate their part party platform was to secede from the United States and I used to be the treasurer for that group I'm going I like this guy that sounds like fun let's do that that guy got elected wow he got and Jack coog was
his lieutenant governor I knew him quite well so he wanted to become a country I still do if I'm telling you my you you want the United States to take over Canada but you want Alaska to be its own country this was all when Biden was there I'm thinking worst case scenario we're going to get the girl that didn't want to be on your show if we get her I want Alaska to become its own country we just we just got to get away from this it's a train wreck yeah but since Trump got in
and he's doing the things that he said he was going to do hey I like the idea you want to expand America expand America it's a good idea it's been done before so you're willing to keep Alaska as a part of America yeah why don't you run for governor ah [ __ ] that you'd be a fun Governor I would be a fun Governor I the way you said it give it a go successful businessman why don't you run for governor no no no no I don't have time I'm busy I know you're busy but
I I don't I can't do it you don't need that in your life I'm just kidding I'm completely kidding people come up and go give me some something this is an issue and I'm thinking why is it an issue I don't give a [ __ ] about that that's not a good politician right a a a politician I knew that I talked to one day was a state senator he goes here's a trick all you do when they say that you go I see that's it that's it just say I see you listen to them
I see and you you don't really care no you don't give a [ __ ] well a lot of them definitely don't a lot of them are just using as like an audition to become president you know they just want to do a good enough job to get the big job well president Trump just uh announced recently that he wants to get a gas line built through Alaska and talking about Governors Governor Palin appointed me to be the gas line project coordinator for do back when she was governor and there was another guy that worked
for do named Frank Richards and so uh I went to work to get a gas line permit written and work with a guy named Harry Noah who was a commissioner under dnrs I'm sorry under Governor hickle he was a commissioner of DNR so him and I work on this permit to get a pipeline built through Alaska took us three years I'm the guy that wrote it I'm the guy that signed it along with Harry so when President Trump was on his doing an interview three days after he got elected he goes and we have a
fully permitted pipeline in Alaska to go ahead and build a gas line through Alaska I go whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa stop the TV and back it up a little bit I wrote the [ __ ] permit I signed the [ __ ] permit he's talking about some work that I did that's all right so Richard now is the president of the Alaska Alaska gas line develop or project and um they just ined the deal with Japan who came in and said yeah we want to buy into this it's a $44 billion project so
what's the hurdle for pipelines and for oil drilling in the past is it environmental that people worried it's going to ruin the environment the uh there's a thing called anoir the Arctic National Wildlife range mhm I think it's yeah yeah something like that and when the president renamed well anoir you're not allowed to drill in anoir you can't drill for oil in Anar there's a lot of oil there but the feds said you can't drill for oil there you can't produce oil out of there but that was for the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge but if
you change it to the America National Wildlife Refuge kind of like the Gulf of America you might be able to drill in there is that really all it takes you just got to rename it well apparently the Gulf of America works so they're going to redrill they're going to start drilling in the Gulf of America now it is by the way very hilarious I bet they when he said it at the inauguration was like this [ __ ] like this is such a crazy thing to say and he did it he signed it yesterday on
the way across the Gulf of America yeah I was in um uh where we stay on the way over in Louisiana having dinner I asked the waitress I said how far away are we from the Gulf of America what if that looks big deal I don't no well we're very divided as a country My Hope Is that what he does winds up being undeniably good this is the best case scenario that's what I hope for every president what happens is undeniably good everybody benefits and we all realize like hey this is we're going to be
okay but we should be United as a country we shouldn't be united only with the people of our political party that's stupid we're supposed to be one team and you know this is the new coach or this is the new president let's Okay like get on board this is this is what's happening now and if there's something that you think is egregiously wrong like all this USA stuff like hey maybe there's some really good programs in there that we should all examine and we should reinstate but they should examine it the idea that you shouldn't
examine it that there's no argument for that once you found $200 million that goes to transgender animal tests you know you got some [ __ ] like you can't spend $200 million on transgender animal tests why you're $36 trillion do in debt and not spending any money on East Palestine yeah like what happened to that place huh what's what what what what about the toxic spill in East Palestine what about the the health effects of those people that had to deal with that burning toxic [ __ ] in their air for weeks and weeks Y
what happened to them anybody check anybody go into that ground and see what [ __ ] the groundwater's like anybody dig that stuff out and [ __ ] process it are they doing anything about that not yet they go in you can see videos where they stick sticks in the water and the sheen comes right out bro how about Flint Michigan how about that how about their water still [ __ ] up yep can I get a glass of water remember Obama did that this is not a snut I want a glass of water and
he sips it like this like a little like a little lizard he barely he barely drank it it's so crazy to ask for a glass of water where you know the water is polluted and you don't even drink it that's so crazy that's so crazy you didn't even take a gulp you ever see that he sips it like this like this like barely have you seen it no you should watch it just watch it because it's fun it's fun to watch cuz it's so crazy it's almost like they were trying to talk him into it
and he was like I'm not drinking that [ __ ] water and like listen just drink a little bit of it just drink it' be good for everybody just go out there and say can I GL a glass of water it is there you go you know generally I have not been doing stunts here but you know watch this and what was that this used uh a filter um you know the water around this table uh you know was Flint water that was filtered and it just confirms uh what we know scientifically which is uh
that uh if you're using a filter if you're installing it uh then Flint water at this point is drinkable stop pause if I was in an audience I'd be yelling chug CH chug ch ch get him gallons of that and then monitor his diarrhea okay let's what are you talking you didn't even drink that make your pasta in that sir go go make your rice in that water using a filter these people are so poor they like that's a very impoverished Community I bet a lot of those people don't have filters so he's saying if
they don't have filters they're [ __ ] is that what you're saying and and you only drank it like this you barely drank it it didn't move the level of water didn't change you just dipped your tongue in there you didn't really drink that's so crazy to not drink it well we did eight years with that guy right yeah we got out of a long relationship well kind of with all of them you know it's just the the job of being a president is so hard I used to say I I want Hillary to win
CU I want a woman to be president so I realized they can't [ __ ] do that job either Nobody Does that job right everybody [ __ ] it up nobody ever gets it right it's always just a disaster everybody half the country at least hates you the other C giant percentages of the population even on your team are disappointed in you because you didn't do exactly what they want you to do we've got a we've got a pretty good group of legislators in Alaska yeah yeah for the most part they're all you know they're
going to have their squabbles and stuff but pretty much everybody on the same page I think you guys are different humans Alaska's just more durable reliable people because you have to deal with the cold and you got bears and moose and [ __ ] running around up there I think you make it makes different people when you live in the same neighborhood as grizzly bears it just makes everything a little different yeah it it actually does and uh the people are generally nice to each other MH and considerate well but they seem more like I
said more robust when I was in Anchorage uh we we me and my friend Ari went up there there did some shows did a little fishing we're like these people are like better people they're like more solid like everybody even just like the regular people hanging out at the bar they like had their [ __ ] together more and then we're both like I guess they kind of have to cuz otherwise you freeze to death you can't just be a [ __ ] off up here it's too goddamn cold and you can't just go wander
in the woods you'll get eaten like you de [ __ ] your food Jack you can't go too far stay close stay with your people support each other someone has a flat tire [ __ ] help him all right because you would want to get help too you could die out there that's the difference I used to always think that if I go bear hunting I'm going to go with somebody who I can outrun but now I get a lot of people asking me if I want to go bear hunting no yeah um you could
be in the wrong spot it doesn't matter who's running fast that bear is going to get somebody or all of you depending upon what's going on but that's a dangerous kind of hunting you're hunting something that's like the apex predator of North America yep and you don't even eat it I have a bunch of friends who go Grizzly hunting and the way they put it like first of all you have to control the populations like if you don't you get a situation that's happening like in Montana where they want to list them but they've been
delisted for so long like the only place you can hunt krisly bears in America is Alaska and a lot of people that live in Montana don't think that's good they think they should put them back on the list because they're just there's way too many any human interactions I have a Grizzy Bear hide I got from slingsby up in gome and uh it's on that 1885 pool table that I told you oh yeah that you're going to I'm not going to play on that pool table till you show up oh Jesus it covers that pool
table I'm sure got two of those now they're big animals man especially the coastal ones have you ever seen one like one of the COA ones up close not grizzly bears I've seen polar bears and stuff like that you seen polar bears up there well not in Fairbanks I've seen north of gnome yeah yeah they have them up there I mean they they had one polar bear apparently I don't know if it's true or not that walked into the interior of Alaska I mean it just went traveling really going to have me a little cross
country jaunt [ __ ] running into that thing well they're they they eat nothing but meat yeah they're badass [ __ ] they're the most badass of all of them they are just 100% Predator it's sketchiest bear to be around there's this uh video I was watching of these guys the other day that were in a truck and uh they were filming this polar bear as it just kept getting closer and closer then then they started panicking okay it's like 30 yards away like that sprinting distance we got to get in the truck and they
get in the truck and the polar bear just climbed on top of the truck it was like and he was like we got to start the truck and get the [ __ ] out of here like this thing's going to break the glass they're bad yeah you don't you don't want to [ __ ] with them look at that's just a can of meat to them they don't give a [ __ ] about you you're just food they live in a frozen Wasteland anything that's moving around is edible yeah last time uh yeah look at
these guys bro don't do that do not do that please don't do that that's so dangerous that's not your friend do that thing just wants to eat you isn't it so weird it's so not worried about people cuz it's not threatened by anything cuz it's such a top dog that it just like will just wander right up to your building hey what's inside I smell meat I want to come in that building I'm hungry yeah I talked about pool yeah what's that last time you and I were talking you said you had a friend that
makes pool cues yeah here's a chunk of Mammoth iy form wow this is my buddy Eric crisp he makes uh Sugar Tree cues this is beautiful man that's good solid chunk that's a chunk of M Ivory that's wild the exterior on that's the blue color is called vivianite it comes from mineralization on Frozen artifacts like that I'm going to send him this yeah and tell him to turn this into a masterpiece yep he makes Incredible pool cues and he does use mammoth ivory he uses it sometimes in the joint yeah you said you said you
had one that had mammoth ivory in it and what is that Jamie it's a vivianite vivianite whoa God that's so beautiful that's that's the mineralization you see on that we find it's actually easy to find bones sometimes cuz they're colored blue really yeah from mineralization yeah yeah I have some that are really really blue that um um bison the step bison skull that you gave me is a that thing freaks people out they're like how old is that like well we have to get it tested but it could be 10,000 years old no it could
be 40,000 years old Jee the one that was found over the hill from us 38,00 th years old wow I haven't tested any of my step Bisons wow it's 400 bucks a pop but um I would bet that one's at least 20,000 30,000 years old I uh whenever I have anybody on that's like an ancient history expert it's interested in like um some of the Lost Civilization guys we always talk about your place because I'm like that that's a place where it seems like that's evidence that something took place there that killed everything all at
once some came in hot dude something came in hot and the way you describe it too that there's a layer of carbon where it looks like scorched Earth Bert benrock Bert gravel you know deep deep 50 ft down and um since we talked last I think I kind of figured some things out yeah all that material that has ended up where we're at came in I think we talked it came in some kind of water event some flood yeah and that's called the back channel to the to the pay what we're digging up pay out
of so there's a back channel that goes through that Valley that's pretty decent in in Gold I mean pretty rich and the miners used to drift mine that because they couldn't bucket line dredge it and so it goes around where we're at it keeps going Downstream so when we moved from where we were at down to let's go find the back Channel and we set up over here where we started on the left limit we going back up and we found some drift mines up there and I this bone here I think it was from
an old drift mine couple hundred years ago you know that before the discoveries were even made some guys were out there digging around and had a had an old drift mine going yeah because what did you date this to you dat this that's 200 years old years old and this is uh what kind of an animal step bison wow either step bison or could be bear I'm not sure how crazy is that they were around 200 years ago you think that was a beir could I I'm not I don't know what the [ __ ]
imagine the size of that [ __ ] thing like that's his shin I don't know you got you get some experts in here and they'll tell you what it is yeah we call that the Spitzer bone next time I got a biologist in here I'll say what do you think that comes from it would have to be a very specific kind of biologist right a paleontologist worth his waiter I mean he should know I'm not that how many more things have they discovered in the East River they haven't told me but there is I mentioned
last time a research vessel that was out there and in this business if someone makes a discovery on my property that's significant um they don't talk about it they don't want anybody to know about it but there was a discovery made not by Dirty Water Don or Dan Don he's still out there and he's found all kinds of stuff he posts it on his Instagram stuff that he does find and he's found it in the exact same place that you were told that the museum dumped it off yep and uh I posted a letter or
part of that report that I was hoping that if somebody I like people to think here here's where it's located okay here's where it was dumped and it said at the same point where they dumped it where amh dumped it is where the New York City Hospital dumped their stuff how hard would it be to go to the hospital and go look at your records and tell me where you used to dump stuff in the 1940s just find out just ask them amh ain't going to tell us right but if you know the location where
dirty water Dawn found that stuff it's got to be in there right oh it's in there can you go to his Instagram Jamie so no it's in how many different things has he recovered so far I think he's found Mammoth and bison and a Jawbone it could be a horse I haven't seen any of it with my own eyes I haven't and how much did they supposedly dump in that River 50 tons that is so crazy and here's what I was going to tell you somebody with a research vessel with sides scanning sear and all
that stuff apparently found something I found a mound in the river that's a like aund Dro probably knows better than me 100 feet long 40 feet high whoa 60 feet wide now that that wouldn't be 50 tons but it could be a whole bunch of other stuff in and that's why the report said this will be a significant challenge to Future archaeologists this was written in 49 to Future archaeologists and I'm going wait AR archaeologists are human things you're we're talking about paleontology which is bone things but amh is the one that call it archaeology
iCal exploration so do they have human bones as well hypothetically so hypothetically on your property they found human bones too and just dumped them in the river if you uh why would they do that why don't they why don't they come clean with the saber-tooth tigers what do you mean by come clean with the saber-tooth tigers well the experts out there will tell you that saber-tooth tigers weren't found found in Alaska but you have found saber 2 tiger skulls well so have they there's I have a correspondence uh posted recently two pages that's filled with
unbelievable things that uh yeah that's one right there that's a dirty water Dawn says that this is the lower Jawbone to a step bison yep he's got some other stuff in there too right Jamie like maybe a Tusk or something some other things y yeah look at that bone step bison tibia um so what are you saying though why would they dump off human remains they say that well the letter says we have yet to find any human remains but we found spear tips well we found Mammoth bones with spear tips in them we found
that stuff do you have a photo of a mammoth bone with a spear tip in it yeah my daughter's holding up a big Mammoth hip bone and it's got a spear where's that bone R Alaska I mean or no but where is it where where can we see that image on my page oh on your page do you have that thing with the spe spear tip still in it spear tips out but we have the bone we have two we have a couple bones like that Joe watch take it out supposed to leave it in
there in fact I posted a picture of 12 or I think it's around 12 spear points that were sent to amh that disappeared [ __ ] disappeared well you know what I was talking to a guy the other day about this and he was saying that he thinks what happens is Dan Richards that it goes to wealthy people oh yeah the wealthy people offer them a bunch of money wealthy donors they want to get it for their collection and he was talking about bunch of different stuff that goes missing I have a a letter I
just posted here just in case we wanted to talk about it from Child's Frick who was head of am& back when this was all going on his dad was Henry Frick his dad was the most hated man in America for a while for killing his people he was a steel guy a steel steel industry founder killing his workers yeah they wanted overtime pay and they didn't want to work so hard and he brought in the uh the gang one those hired thugs to the Pinkerton or oh really whoever it was and murdered people yeah I
don't know how many they killed of his his guys he was ruthless Henry frick was ruthless and his kid child's was the one that set this deal up this tripartite agreement which is also included in this letter about am's responsibility with these bones was to just take those of scientific value and do a report on every one they took they took over 40 years they took tons and tons and tons of them did no reporting nothing dumped 50 tons in the river because they didn't have a place to store apparently didn't care crazy but why
would they dump human bones cuz it would think I would think that that would be very valuable you're saying archaeology so you think it's just just spear tips and [ __ ] like that they found human bones I'm willing to say that they found them it would also be very confusing if you found Alaskan spear tips in the East River that would be the confusing thing for archaeologists I would imagine they're saying too kind of yeah right well you find a you find a bone with a spear tip in it or a bone that obviously
had a spear tip in it because of the way it's broken I mean I have a baby mammoth hip bone that is like that yeah identified by reputable paleontologist I'm looking for here's just a for instance I stumbled across New York Times article talking about unearthing the secret of New York's Mass Graves back from since the 19th century W hiring prisoners for 50 cents an hour it's a jail inmates paid to move Mass Graves there would have been no markings of who was what oh so they dumped that in the river too look where it
is I mean they just dumped the bodies in the river how gross they didn't use coffins until recently that's nuts what about vampires well I mean they put them in stuff but like a a real nice Box come on man did you see Dracula yeah people are gross you know they've been throwing things in that River forever y you know like most of the world you go around rivers in most of the industrialized World those rivers are disgusting well our state legislature I told you last time I was going to go political on this I've
got no desire to litigate this thing litigation just takes a long time politically I told you last time we're going to go this route and I have a a letter I just posted from the Alaska state leg ISL to am andh to return the bones mhm from the Senate uh majority the guy that wrote that's by a fellow by the name of Click bishop and uh he was the Senate President signed it with him but click is a good honest decent gold mining legislator he was termed out this time and decided not to run again
because I suspect he'll run for governor here and he probably win in a couple years and click is one of those guys that wants the bone back we met with him and his chief of staff the president of the university and the museum guys and some other state legislators and um wow we want them back this is very interesting we understand there are unopen crates sitting in storage in New York they present an opportunity for further scientific discovery in fields such as paleontology ecology ology and anthropology therefore facilitating the return of this collection is crucial
to ensure access for researchers Educators and students within Alaska thereby advancing scientific knowledge and understanding of the state's Natural History there are researchers in Alaska ready and waiting to open these crates that have been collecting dust in your basement yeah get at it give up the boxes yeah yeah bring them home bring them home well and I made the offer to build the research facility store everything we'll bring them all back here the scientists can have access to them but the bones are not leaving Alaska they're not leaving Alaska you don't trust them anymore [
__ ] no why would you why would I why would you I don't you shouldn't and I get a lot of people oh I need a I need a mammoth bone for my our studies you're just trying to collect something here yeah [ __ ] off I'll never get it back come on up and find it yeah you know come find them they're you know they're all over the place that's what's nuts is that you keep finding them like what was that event like that led So Many Bodies to be in this small area cuz
you said it's only like five acres or something like that 2.1 2.1 yeah we haded maybe a point another 0.1 but there's another area that you said that's a little larger yes Downstream makes this one look like a [ __ ] how big is that area it's a mile long whoa and you're finding them there too oh yeah so this main area where you're pulling most of the stuff is only 2.1 Acres yeah that's crazy that is what a dump of bodies it must have been yeah it was incredible so when we started back down
at the mouth and headed up the left limit um we hit some fairly modern day drift mines on that side until we got farther up and we went all the way up to where we had been set up before and we crossed back over tracing this back Channel cuz that's where the gold was we didn't get maybe 5050 F feet and we finding these steel tubes sticking out of the ground well that's how they used to melt Perma Frost but this is virgin ground it never been mind so we kept going and we found some
pretty significant things over there and we're on the we're on the we're on the hunt I mean imagine what the event must have looked like to lead all those bodies in one small area I mean it only makes sense that that was a mass Extinction event right Am I Wrong it went over thousands of years because we've dated anywhere from 40,000 year old bones to you know 12,000 year old bones in that deposit wow so so everything kept dying there so it might it might have been multiple events yeah might have been well that was
one of the things they thought about the younger dry impact Theory right they think there was multiple times where that happened and then I wonder what the population density was La of animals back then too cuz if you do have these enormous animals that are very difficult for predators to hunt and they manag to get into large numbers and they can defend themselves like if you have a large population of woolly mammoths and bison and step bison and [ __ ] saber-tooth tigers up there what the [ __ ] did that look like like if
you're finding that many bones imagine going back in time 30,000 years ago and just being a fly on the wall and seeing what life was like back then well we can't seem to find any body's willing to come up there and study it you know I've made all these offers General it's because of the restrictions because they're scared that you're going to own everything and you're going to well the two of the employees at amh happen to have a conversation with somebody that is related to the state of Alaska or employed by the state of
Alaska where they said we don't want the bones to get into Reeves's hands because they'll lose the scientific Community will no longer have access to him and they're real valuable and we think he's going to sell them now the people that he said that to was with the other some legislator University employees and where we were at you couldn't even count the [ __ ] number of tusks and so here's that's such an ignorant thing to say because if you're going to sell them you already have way more than you need to sell we're not
we're not there to sell Tusk I want to figure out I'm goofball this way what the [ __ ] happened why did 80 65% of the world's megaphon or North Americans why did it go all extinct all at once yeah what the [ __ ] yeah and they have in that collection that they didn't dump in the river in my collection was let's say it's a 2,000 square foot or 2,000 piece jigsaw puzzle I got 42 pieces over here they got the rest I'm not going to solve anything with 42 pieces I want it all
put it all back in Alaska let the state of Alaska study the [ __ ] out of it and we will tell you how the extinction event happened it's been paleontologists know that but they don't have money they don't really want to put up with the [ __ ] they have to do to get it you know how hard it is to dig in ice in Perma Frost what see those hoses you use yeah but I'm not digging it I'm Tha it right take a scalp you know how the paleontologist you see them on TV
with the little scalpel and you know toothbrush and [ __ ] that don't fly around there you got to you got to melt it and get it the hell out of there that's people criticize for how we do it but if we don't do it we don't get it and we're not going to use mechanical equipment on it because I don't want to destroy it I could strip that old 2.1 acres and two shifts and I'd lose every [ __ ] bone because it' be smashed right you're run a d10 across that stuff it ain't
going to they ain't going to survive man of course no the way you're doing it seems like the only way to do it it is the only way to do it it's just all these paleontologists they're all connected to universities right they're all connected that way and they don't want to piss off of him and AG because right we can't hire this guy needs our grant money to do what he does or he needs to be our employee hey here's one for here's one for Elon Musk and his doge guys go check into those guys
and see where their money goes the M&H see where their money goes the federal grants they get see where that stuff goes you know might as well because that's the only way you're going to bring him to bring him in to heal these guys been running unfettered forever nobody checks on it the management is horrible nobody comes in and says what' you spend that two million on I don't know look at that funny looking bird over there under it's out of control do you know this for a fact like if you looked into it do
you know how they run or do you just just basing this on your interactions with them I'm basing on my interactions with them but I will tell you this one of the main people that you know people say you need to litigate this you need to sue their ass I'm pretty good at that I'm you know I've been involved in two of the longest lawsuits in State history and I've won both of them so I'm betting like Hall of Fame kind of stuff but the guy that made the deal with me is I can't depose
him can't depose him it's like be deposing a cabbage let head let head of lettuce what do you mean he's like Biden that's why oh he's gone that's what I hear oh but he's still employed he's still pulling in a pretty good paycheck H to me that you know maybe you do that in the private sector maybe you do it but and I don't know how much money that am andh gets from the feds but we looked into it a little bit they get some if if if they don't want to give Alaska the state
of Alaska if you look at who wrote that letter it's not John Reeves now it's a state of [ __ ] Alaska and I told I told you it's the only way to get him back we got to get our politicians out there going no no no no no and are they willing to do this they just wrote a letter saying that what you're supposed to do so what's the next step I don't know we haven't gotten a response from that [ __ ] letter do they have to respond apparently not yeah that's part of
the problem right yeah [ __ ] these guys they're not accountable [ __ ] them [ __ ] this dirt [ __ ] up there they're the amnh they're a prestigious institution that's beyond reproach sir and and I I said I know you know if you have the politics lined up right and you see the right people where they should be and you got people that want to just do I saw I want to do the right thing right just do the right thing the am& is that where you go to see the dinosaurs yeah
well they do that that's cool yeah Drew and I uh my wife and Aura went to New York to meet with am andh and they had to stand in the rain for 4 hours and then wouldn't meet with us really yeah oh yeah you told me this yeah yeah I'm not surprised you're you're a problem they'd rather just avoid you than deal with whatever happened when they dumped 50 tons of bones in the East River and they have a bunch more just sitting there what do you think they would discover if you got it all
what would like be best case scenario you get all the bones back Alaska wins yeah you bring researchers over there they they work with you yeah what do you think they discover they discover what why all this megaphone what what happened why did the sea levels rise 400 ft all at once what went on here they there's animals that we found they said didn't exist there now they haven't amended that even though you found those that's that seems crazy to me they're doing a little backpedaling now but what they need to do is put all
the pieces of the puzzle on the table and start putting put it together so you found tell me the animals that you found that are there that aren't supposed to be there saber 2 tiger is one of them right dire wolves dire dire wolves wow Badgers Badgers Badgers they're not supposed to be there we told you elk last time and you pointed out there's an island that has some elk on it yeah but they were planted there they're they're not oh they were yeah elk were not known to be up in May neck of the
woods oh no kidding and moose came in later but they didn't even know moose was up there in that time we found four of them so moose were up there and there was a transition from grasslands which is good for the mammoth and the bison and the horses and the Caribou to the woodlands where browsers could feed right the macadons the mammoths the or not the mammoths the other animals that ate that kind of stuff and the carnivores were having a field day didn't they didn't care right who's eating what do you think they brought
in um elk to hunt or do you think they brought him in to just to have him there I think no they weren't brought in check um how did elk get on a fog Knack Island brought 1929 1929 aabs moved from Washington wow just ate Washington that makes sense because they're Roosevelt elk that totally makes sense Roosevelt elk are a larger bodied animal that has uh smaller antlers than a Rocky Mountain Ros yeah Roosevelt elk in Alaska originated from from a transplant of eight Cals captured the Olympic Peninsula of Washington state in 1928 and moved
to a fog neack Island in 1929 wow that's crazy we find sheds of the of the of the antlers oh yeah wow and those are like thousands of years old really yeah so they were there already well that's the thing about um came acoss country right yeah in this country they used to be everywhere and then people just wiped them out when they had Market hunting that's you know what when they made it illegal to sell Wild game that was the reason for it because everybody was poor people were just killing everything they could and
they almost wiped him out they they wiped out a lot of species like elk used to be in every state and now they're you know in a handful they've repopulated them in some areas Pennsylvania Kentucky there's been a bunch of success stories of repopulating elk to the point where they can hunt them now but they used to be everywhere including Texas oh yeah that's that's the one had a spear tip in it really do you have a photo of it with the spear tip in I have a have a little video of it uh where
that's on my phone some God damn it find it I want to see I will I'll find it I would never take that spear point out I'd have that thing on display that is the coolest thing ever a spear Point inside of a mammoth bone stuck right in it [ __ ] that's cool I have another picture up there if you want to pull that bison head up the spear point in it still in it really right here by the by the eyes where's that not that one that was fairly recently Jamie oh really that
I posted it yeah without a doubt Mike you're going the wrong way well there's the Trump thing we should go read the comments you're a terrible person um here's click Bishop he's the senator that sent the letter keep going shout out to click yeah it's in there somewhere how often do you post I posted these to make it easier for Jamie to find I'm like I'm back months now I was going back to the top of your feetus was it months ago or was it recently the last probably in the last week or two yes
that's oh I'm sorry I gave you the wrong directions s top see it anywhere whoa look at that skull yeah keep going H that's a mammoth brain by those sunglasses really that's a brain y half a one so was that uh mineralized it was dehydrated that's what that looks like wow what'd you do with that thing it's in the freezer right next to the frozen pizza yeah go down next to the ice cream yeah that's a mammoth brain that's 30,000 years old there's another one that got hit by a spear wow that's a that's a
little Mammoth that's some [ __ ] penetration right there Jack y That's amazing but where's this skull where's this skull oh there it is right there where right smack dab in the middle that one yep where's the point right by the arrow right by the the arrow yep go up right there where no go where the cursor was right there that's a tip yep whoa so it's kind of mineralized too yep stuck right in it welded to its face whoa um how could how did you know that that's what that was it looks like a
tumor to me you did you have to clean it up to see the difference it's been cleaned up quite a bit it's not bone it's Stone wow and you're going to leave it in there like that yep did you get an x-ray of it or anything so you could see it no oh I'd want to see that that's amazing what is it like being on a piece of land that at one point in time was just like this insane habitat I mean it must have like some bizarre feel to just the land itself when you're
pulling out sabertooth tiger skulls and Woolly Mammoth tusks and it just must feel insane that you're pulling all the stuff out of the ground that you live on well we live in the Ice Age this we go to work in the morning we're in the Ice Age yeah it's it's a different way to think you see something you go okay what the [ __ ] what what what is this you find something you go that's not human I mean that's not that's not a that's not that tool was made by a human if you go
back to but also if you find humans you have I can keep it on the DL I think so I would I would imagine I don't know I don't know either I don't know nothing but I would imagine if I found some humans I won't tell nobody well that we found that one tool that was obviously shaped by humans right this carbon dated 25,000 years old wow and it looks like it was sawed and it looks just like if I was to take this cup you know you hold it in your hand just like something
to Mash anything with right like a tenderized there it is right is that it right there y so that's a stone tool no that's mammoth bone mammoth bone but if you look on the next picture so the bottom of that thing was oh wow that's 25,000 years old yep and it's saw off at the bottom yep that's nice if you look closely you can see the there's some kind of organic material in some of those cracks and crevices then you see some shreer lines in there what is a shreer line does that mean like saw
that's a a line in the mammoth ivory that's different than elephant Ivory oh you can tell the difference and this was probably sought off a long time ago and now it's kind of fossilized right without without um any prompting Joe I've given that thing to other people to hold uhhuh you know it sits like that they pick it up it's the first thing they [ __ ] do really it's like I know what this is so it's a tool everybody picks it up well whatever it is it's perfectly in your hand it certainly seems like
humans made it oh yeah there's no way you get something that's that flat out of Nature and it's not like those things snap off they're not like elk antlers they don't regrow them right well the the other thing is I said this last time I'll say it again we lived with Willie Mammoth for tens of thousands of years we know what that thing what that tool is it's in our DNA first thing we do when we pick it up boom boom boom we don't feel like that about rats people Willie Mammoth little kids love them
parents love them everybody likes Willie mammoths you think it's our DNA because we used to hunt them [ __ ] no we live with them I think we domesticated them what I think we live side by side with them really I really do why do you think they domesticated them what makes you think that okay you got a big hairy animal right boy they got some like muscock let's get some of this and make clothing out of it let's let's let's take this fur right but why that why domesticate them versus hunt them you hunt
them with a spear I mean you can knock one over if it's dead or you stick a spear in it crippled but do you think they actually kept them as like stock no I think they just lived together they just lived together yeah they didn't it's like that polar beer you saw walk up that guy's truck uh-huh that went M go what the [ __ ] you going to do to me right well if you want to kill half your tribe go try to stick a spear in that guy right he's got 10 foot tusks
right clear the field and also you got to penetrate all that fur and all that hide with a spear with a spear that you're throwing and people go well they had adalle okay where are you going to build an adeladel a grassland right where there's no sticks well how are they making a spear then well I don't know how are they making a spear they must have some sticks right that's what I'm saying they didn't they had Spears if they had wood big enough for a spear but Adel adles are not spear size well it's
a different shape certainly but if you have enough wood to make a spear wouldn't you have enough wood to make an Adel out I mean when when's the invention of the adeladel I don't know let's find that out but if you had a spear that you crafted mhm we have a picture of spear tips that were sent to New York and they that doc other document in there talks about finding them in association with the bones they weren't studying this stuff they just wanted amh just wanted the booty that guy Charles Frick wanted these things
back in New York city so here's the adal 17,000 to 21,000 years ago so if it's 25,000 years ago it might not even be an Adel but who knows how accurate they are with this like 20 I mean that's a big gap 177,000 to 21,000 years ago but this is also people that didn't think that saber-tooth tigers lived in Alaska right it's all artist Renditions all of the stuff that we've been taught is based on what somebody painted or drw or sketched or they initially established and now they've been defending that timeline or even some
of the cave drawings that shows people sitting on Willie mammoths really yeah I've seen them before online and you know if you if you believe everything you see like when Ted Duit rode that buffalo on stage like that kind of thing that was good but that kind of thing yeah you know like they they domesticated him that's interesting well we know humans have domesticated elephants right and they did it a long time ago and they wrote elephants I mean we know they do it in India yeah you wrote them yeah I wrote them in Thailand
I don't recommend it yeah just seems like it could go wrong yeah I don't think I make that'll be part of my thing yeah you make friends with them first they have a whole process you do you feed them you give them sugar cane you hose them down take care of them you you be nice to them first and then they let you ride them but you got to be nice to them even when you're riding them you have to have like good energy they don't I don't think they necessarily enjoy having a little [
__ ] human on their back so it's like it's their world it just seems like a dumb idea like I'm happy just petting you and giving you food I don't need to ride you this is pretty badass looking is that an Adel I think this might be the one they found who a cave in France wow antler C out of antler wow who's a wizard that figured out how to make something to put extra leverage on a spear his name was hook musk that's the other thing that um Dan Richard was bringing up like the
fact that bow and arrow is a difficult thing to invent but yet they invented it all over the world does that make sense or were people traveling from all over the world with the technology of the bow and arrow and spreading it around the world he say that might make more sense than all these people from all these different spots all figuring out this complicated thing where you get a thing you pull it back you get a string and you're letting loose and the arrow has to fly perfect and more likely someone figured it out
in some place and it was so awesome that they started spreading that idea across the world yeah and it takes a while back then to get the word out yeah I mean people had to travel to spread the the word they didn't I don't think they had smoke signals they could explain it in the sky I don't think you'd be able to explain a bow and arrow in the sky with smoke signals I'm willing to go on a limb on that we come up with the expression the cloud we use the cloud now yeah that
was the original cloud smoke clouds but I mean what did they send were they did they have a code when they had smoke signals or was it just the smoke itself yeah I had no idea so you found spear tips have you found arrowheads as well not arrowheads only spear tips so it's more primitive yeah and and the way we collect we don't get all the small stuff but we bail all the small stuff out of the drainage and we stack it so it can get it can be gotten later we don't lose any of
it but you might have a bunch of like spearheads just laying around I bet we have millions of what I call Micro fossils Millions really and the stuff that we bail with the with the equipment and just stack it up when you first discovered the Sabertooth tiger head when was that I I found one in 1974 that was the first one yeah but I was mining up north and when you found that what was the reaction to that did it have the the teeth in it and everything or was it just it had one full
tooth and one broken half really and I I think I told you British museum visited yeah got off to take it back and clean it and restore store it and send it back to me never saw it again of course the one that was sent to the how [ __ ] gross is that that they just keep doing that same [ __ ] they do it all that's what they do yeah and in the last year two why should you have it this is important for Humanity some dirty Gold Miner the Smithsonian they amh got
in trouble for grave robing robing robbing most museums have done that they've taken artifacts from cultures and they just keep them so these people they found this saber they got this saber tiger wow look at that one that's a cave line skull that we found holy [ __ ] was that supposed to be there the cave lion yes that's the only that's the best one ever found in Alaska wow my son Kinsey and I found that together [ __ ] a that thing's amazing look at the teeth on that thing yep so this saber tooth
skull is probably very valuable that you found yeah and and cuz I've seen them for sale right am andh says they don't have one but we were going through the shipping records and we can see where they were shipped one The Correspondents that I just posted talks about them getting them and camels and other you know other things that were sent somehow disappeared does Lorenzo fertita have a sabertooth skull in his office see if that's true Lorenzo fertita is uh one of the gentlemen who uh owned the UFC before they sold it to WME billionaire
character who loved MMA and really was the reason why the UFC blew up along with Dana White and his brother Frank he bought it from a museum in Dallas yeah let me see what that looks like picture I think it's like a lot of money so if you think about your skull and this [ __ ] gets a hold of it there's probably some [ __ ] over there that's really rich I was offered 85 grand for that one ah yeah yeah here's one for 500 Grand w oh holy [ __ ] holy shit's right
man holy [ __ ] how [ __ ] amazing must that thing have been to see live they got a bunch of at LaBrea Tar Pits I mean a bunch how much did the Lorenzo fatia pay for the one do say I didn't see it it was just an article that had words it didn't have the picture of it did you Google Lorenzo fertitas and see images I mean that's what yeah and that shows me other savs I can't what about that article that first article no picture of it how dare you bloody elbow you
would think that a website called bloodyelbow.com would really be on top of it it was 15 years old that's 2010 2012 is when the article was posted oh wow there $160,000 there what it's only 160 Grand fossilized saber 2p Oh I thought it was like millions could be could be small too I don't know yeah I wonder what that one that was sold at the auction went for how [ __ ] cool are those things though man like what a wild amazing design that nature created this is a whole skeleton [ __ ] 40 million
years old it says wow how many of have you found up there of saber-tooth skulls two just two wow W yeah it's it's uh when you come up up you let give me enough of advanced notice and maybe send Jamie up in advance and we'll put a little uh Jamie never leaves his apartment he's not going to go to Alaska look at him oh what's he going to do with Carl can you bring Carl up there Carl won't survive oh Carl get along just fine with our dogs he'll run off we'll put up a putting
green for him he'll attack your dogs he's a little torpedo but uh put up a you need to start coming up there in the summer and we'll do is that the move some podcast podcast from Fairbanks the bone the bone crew bring your friends with you and be like protect our parts only Parks only different protect our parks in Fairbanks that would be fun it would be fun that would be a good one to do it at your area where you do it put it in Archive Building take a day tour the site yeah it's
just I want more people to know about it I really do because I don't think I've ever heard of anything like that I don't think I've ever heard of a a spot like that where there's that many woolly mammoth bones and Cave Bear bones and all this [ __ ] you're pulling out of the ground we have fun with it I mean how many different dead animals like different extinct types of animals at least half a dozen wow at least I mean it's just I don't know because we have 300,000 fossils and you haven't examined
all oh [ __ ] no no we only have time to pick them up and maybe I'll take a picture or maybe Drew will or one of my guys uh my kids my wife somebody might take a picture of it or we'll take a picture of them holding it it seems like such a lost opportunity to know about things and unless you're willing to give in to these guys who have obviously been deceptive with you in the past how do you get real studies done up there i' got it's such a conundrum the bones ain't
go anywhere right if the if if the timing ain't right the timing ain't right if the politics aren't right I'm not I'm not going to litigate this it's not worth my time it's also they've shown that they're not willing to be honest with you the people with the British museum that stole your saber truth tiger skull what's going on with the amh like why would you work with anybody when you don't have to no I don't want to if they're not going to play fair I don't want to play with them it's such a [
__ ] shame because it's s an amazing site it's such an amazing area that I would think that they would be flocking to try to work with you just do anything they can just for the information I mean you think of how many discoveries first of all the proven fact that saber-tooth tigers lived in a place they didn't think they lived that alone should be worthy of Discovery take a leak you need to take a leak we can wrap this up Dan no no no no I got stuff I'm not done yet oh we're not
done yet this is Dana skull not Dana has one yeah oh geez look at that thing that's I read through the article and it was saying Dana Dana bought it from a museum holy [ __ ] that's amazing all right we'll take a leak we'll be right back Dana White got an awesome skull all right we're back sir well that pneumonia has a certain amount of recovery time I'm sure how long is it 3 months maybe really God damn took 50 years for me to [ __ ] up my lungs but I'm cleaning them up
now well now's a good as time is ever just definitely better now than tomorrow it's the only time yeah so where were we um Dana White has a giant saber-tooth tiger head in his office and um you were telling me you had topics that you wanted to cover that you brought notes well we were talking about the gas line right got that going and no there's no worry at all about the environment with these gas lines there always is you're going to have people sue people mhm we don't want this we Alaska they're worried about
environmental disasters right yeah but that oil pipeline has been running for for a long time provides 12% of our country's gas oil no problems well we had a problem you know F Reef what was that the Exxon Valdes oh yeah that was a big problem yeah yeah I remember that that was 1988 right wasn't it uh don't remember the exact date I think it was cuz I remember people were freaking out that that thing wrecked and emptied out whole oil tanker 89 Exxon vald oil tanker ran a ground blly reef and Alaska's Prince William sound
spill released more than 11 million gallons of crude oil the largest oil spill in US history at the time but that's probably not nearly as much as that one that blew out in the uh ocean that was just spraying oil yeah I mean that had to be probably more than that you talking about the one in the overseas or the one here the one here deep water Horizon yes that one how much did that release doesn't that's what people are scared of says it was continuously releasing oil natural gas for 87 days jeez well I
brought you some goodies what'd you bring well some things that you can remind you of the Boneyard oh okay we make a we got a little bag here for you too Jimmy what do you got here buddy stuff stuff stuff that Drew and I make oh guitar picks oh snap um didn't we give one to Gary Clark Jr yeah you did thank you for that oh my pleasure thought you might want some more some little pendants you can give them to your kids or whoever to put on a necklace those are pieces of Mammoth iory
and how old do you think this little piece is that's a pennant that's probably 30 40,000 years old is that knows JW and I make those doesn't it seem kind of crazy that there's so much of it you're allowed to just carve it up and make stuff out of it we just use broken stuff yeah yeah we just we have tons of broken tusks they can't be restored complete Tusk we don't we just restore them and then move on to the next one and most of them you just have stored you must get a lot
of offers where people want to buy them right yeah what you tell them go pound sand I don't tell them that I just say hey go [ __ ] yourself got an image show I understand yeah no I I just don't sell tusks I don't sell any bones not even a not even a I can give the stuff away because I own it I I can give it away but I don't sell it have there been anybody any researchers or anybody all these appearances that you've done on the show it's sort of gotten that whole
area a lot of attention has there been any anybody that has expressed legitimate interest in working with you there has been expressions of interest but they want to come up and they have no place to study stuff they want to send it all outside to their house and wherever or their their University wherever and you don't want that it won't come back right and the work won't get done right or at least it won't come back at the very least it won't come back now you recall last time I was here I gave you some
gun grips mhm from the guy that makes those burkette Customs mhm well since then he got into making Firearms oh boy so he made it a Drew and I a couple 1911s I posted those real nice that he's getting into that oh look at that oh and he uses your M wow look at those handles that's crazy isn't that something woo now was that um the blue one what is the is that the blue mineralized it's yeah it's um that's a section of a Mammoth tooth that's been cut wow and the one on the bottom
is mammoth tusk and so the Mammoth tooth that's been cut is that the natural color of it that blue no I think he I think he might have put a little coloring in it oh wow that's beautiful in the epoxy isn't that something that is beautiful and he got our name on the guns too wow and the logo well now we can say we're insured by burette don't rob a bank with that gun because they're going to know who you are yeah they got cameras that'll tell them that's pretty dope anyway so he did that
and then the other guy who you both have carvings from uh Chuck leak is his name and you know that one thing that you have the the pipe M with the tusks right I don't think you've ever used it no that's his kind of stuff oh I see so he knew I was coming on your show and he goes can I make you and Joe a special carving then can you give Joe his when you see him I said yeah I'll give it to him when I go down there so I brought it to you
it's here in this box this is this is the kind of stuff okay this is kind thank you yes all right I'll open it right now you open it right now yeah all right any was his name is Chuck leak probably the best Ivory Carver on the planet there's a picture of him carving a he carved a letter opener for the pope there's a piece of tape there in middle Joe on the front right where your hand is oh I see it might have to cut it or something yeah there we go whoa this is
crazy what is this Mammoth tooth with a mavi mammoth carving into it that is incredible look at that the size of that tooth is insane yep it's so heavy yep my God that's amazing carving too oh [ __ ] look at that that's so be that it will stay here right here I'm going to clear off a spot for it yep there we go right here that's sick that's amazing that'll go right next to your other bone thank you very much that's incredible what's his name again Chuck leak Chuck leak shout out to Chuck leak
Mammoth Mogul that's incredible Instagram part of me feels bad that he carved into this tooth cuz I kind of just would rather have the tooth but the art work itself is insane we can arrange that Joe well I'd like it by itself too I like the the art too but it's just like I just feel weird about people carving into stuff that's so valuable and ancient I've had him uh make me one for every animal that we found he's got them with horses Jamie you got to pick this up feel how heavy this is this
is so crazy here Joe hand hand Jamie this too it's a [ __ ] too it's crazy it's crazy that's a tooth how big were these [ __ ] huge that's a that's probably an adult female that's amazing yep yeah and they want us to believe that Hunters wiped all those out no way Spears shut the [ __ ] up no they uh anyways Chuck has made for every animal that we found out there he's made a taken a Mammoth tooth and carve the animal inside it just like that Mammoth oh wow including saber-tooth tigers
wow look at that one that's incredible amazing work it's really good well I want to get the saber-tooth tiger back right now I can't seem to find it one Museum stole one and I think the other Museum stole one too so one Museum stole one the British museum stole one the one where and am andh says they never got one but the correspondence that's listing there talks about him being shipped to New York talks about the agreement we had with amh oh it never got there sorry AO was a scumbag that collected for him he
was a railroad field hand now he ended up with a doctorate in anthropology from the University of Alaska who was in on this whole deal well I would guarantee that if I lived in like 1920 or some [ __ ] like that and I knew that one of my buddies that i' been donating to his Museum was about to get a saber-tooth tiger headed and I wanted that for my house you'd have it you'd probably make a little deal of course you would make a little deal I'll give you a million dollars in Grants and
next thing you know you have people over for a cocktail party come to the lounge I want to show you something I acquired I have a letter posted of what I consider pretty interesting way to offer a bribe back in back in the day really yeah it's posted what was the how did they do the bribe it was a letter from Charles fris to the uh president of the University of Alaska and a sentence that got my attention was well first of all he invited him to join him him and his wife in New York
City for a night at the mansion and then the last sentence was and we can discuss things that uh man always needs more of [ __ ] well you don't buy that you rent that gold you rent it gold what does man need more of it's I would say money yeah it has to be that it has to be he's offering him what man needs more of yeah that's a nice way of saying it back in the day they were it was a King's English I mean they talked proper and all that uhhuh you yeah
I like I said Dan Richards brought that up that he thinks that that's what happened to a lot of ancient Egyptian artifacts and they're probably scattered all over the country or over the world rather in the hands of wealthy collectors makes sense you know people always want to have something that is very rare and that they're not supposed to have you know and we all collect stuff mhm you know what do you collect what what is your favorite thing to collect pool qes pool qes there you go I love pool qes they're functional artwork for
a a game that I'm completely addicted to all yeah I think he'll be able to make a few out of that yeah oh he definitely will I don't I don't know go to uh get a photo of Sugar Tree cues he's uh if he turns it on a lathe or what I don't my friend Eric he he goes out into the woods and gets his own wood like he does everything from the bottom to to to the final production of it he's a a really rare guy cuz his cu's he make like there's a lot
of cues they make him real fancy with the bunch of different inlays and different stuff but what he uses mostly is just the natural beauty of the wood itself he's like he loves wood and so his like look at that look at the Burl on that handle I mean my God that's so gorgeous and that's just Nature's gorgeousness that's Nature's artwork and that's what Eric makes most of his cues like they're it's all Nature's artwork and they also play incredible he's a really good pool player too which is kind of important if you're going to
be a uh a guy who makes cues like click on that link right there where you just had a Billiards right there that one that's some of his work right there like it's all so beautiful holy [ __ ] yeah and it's like I said you see how his work it just really highlights the beauty of the wood itself and they play really good too that's the thing about pool qes they all play different but his they all have a lot of feel to them like that one right there by your cursor right there it
says Facebook that click yeah right there look at that f [ __ ] thing look how beautiful that handle is I can't imagine the work that goes into making one of those oh it's a lot of work but it's also that W the gorgeousness of it is just natural just natural wood so I'll send him this stuff he uses uh mammoth ivory I got more if he needs more you know I I don't know what size he needs or how thick it should be I don't know either I'll ask him my daughter's aora who's married
to Drew out there she makes the jewelry last time we talked I said she was sax Fifth Avenue she's gone beyond sax Fifth Avenue J and I are still muddling around in the Dollar General with what we do we're not we're just making a lot of stuff that people like like the guitar picks and the ball markers and the pendants but she takes gold nuggets that she finds and uses Ivory that she finds puts it all together in some beautiful jewelry and I'm plugging her it's my daughter Laura Longley do yeah you showed it to
us the last time it's really beautiful stuff she made that necklace for you yeah and again that stuff is like you're dealing with something that's 30,000 years old you thought the shine on that wood you put that on there and you can shine it to a mirror finish you can see your face in it that's wild it is it's just also so cool to be in possession of something like just just to hold this in your hand and to know that this is a part of an animal that roamed the Earth 30,000 years ago pretty
incredible stuff it is when you're walking around that area do you get a sense of it like does it feel weird when you're walking around there it does cuz the stink oo the stink is incredible right because it's all rotting right oh yeah we go in in the morning there might be a wolf or a couple coyotes or a lyns or two just kind of rooting around in her going hey come back later just smelling the rot yeah they're looking for it and they find it they find bones they'll come up to our pallets and
take bones right off of them wow and they'll chew them like they'll chew chunks out of them it's incredible you know the stink is unreal and if it wasn't Frozen that's probably what happened to most of the bones that were left behind by all the animals that didn't get that didn't die in permafrost we have bones that have tendons still attached wow and well you were telling me about a guy who ate some of the oh yeah he ate some old meat yeah off a blue babe which was 38 the other bison I said was
38,000 years old yeah they talk about dry aged yeah they had a well you know we all eat that [ __ ] he had u a stew made out of it what was it like I talked to him out the Boneyard he came out there he's up in years now but um Dale Guthry I believe his name is and he wrote a book on it on Ice Age stuff he made it big old casting of a woolly mammoth that I bought not from him but he sold it to somebody who sold it to a another
guy I knew who had it for sale and he made a stew out of old bison meat yeah they found the whole bison a MiFi bison if you saw that little there it is wow dinner party that served up 50 50,000 year old Bison stew yeah I think it's 38,000 but that's all right wow Dale Guthrie a guy's name I would have had to take a bowl of that I would have had to try it you come on up you come on up I would try it last i' let a bunch of other Eggheads try
it first and stare at them how you feeling who knows what kind of [ __ ] diseases are in that bison bone that you're thawing out now I'm going to go heavy duty on this carnivore diet you should yeah nothing but bison and Mammoth yeah it will uh it will definitely radically decrease your hunger to make the stew for roughly eight people Guthrie cut off a small part of the B 's neck where the meat was frozen while fresh when it thought it gave off an unmistakable beef Aroma not unpleasantly mixed with a faint smell
of the Earth in which it was found with a touch of mushroom he once wrote then added uh they then added a generous amount of garlic and onions along with carrots and potatoes to the age meat couple that with wine it becomes a full-fledged dinner they show a photo of what the dinner looked like that was 1984 they didn't take pictures back then no how do you not take pictures of your food I told you the story of the guy that found that [Music] wow not a good it wasn't a good look yeah but they
closed his mind down to extra take that out you know they were supposed to get it out in that day and it took them all summer The Miner got shut down just because of this bison yeah yeah he went over to a different Creek I think I told you this called No Gold Creek I don't think there ain't gold on no gold Creek didn't have a good winner because he couldn't go to the other place because of the Bison yeah that's a pain in the ass Ron Roman's his name he he's a was there any
other way to do it was there a way to work around it that was the only other ground he had he he he they tied up the whole thing I mean they you're done then when they're done he went back in but is it his land yeah it was patented land that he had it was my company land he was on my ground and they have the ability to shut things down for a discovery like that yes they did how come they don't have the ability he he was a nice guy they said let him
do it we're going to get in here we'll take us a day to get it out he said go ahead I see and then he said we we can't do it's the whole thing and then they can never get him out of there they took it out took them all summer to get it and then it [ __ ] him yeah you only get you only get 100 days to mine where the water turns to ice right if you're not mining then you're done so every day is a 1% day oh that's terrible 10% you
know it's like every day so that must that must have been terrible financially for him oh yeah it was horrible he had nothing but pork and beans all winter he's the one that found the Willie Mammoth and is there any other way to M to mine around that were you not going in that one area if you rely on somebody telling you what you can and can't do we'll get back in here you can be back here Day After Tomorrow anybody any minor that I know would say okay right come do it I know I'm
going to lose a day but that we'll work on equipment that day but if you come back in the day after tomorrow and they say sorry we're going to be here for a few months what would you do I wouldn't tell them I find the [ __ ] thing because you have experience with these kind of people yeah I I would I you know I can't even it's it's not like I'm keeping this discovery a secret people tell me how many Instagram follows you have 500 over 500,000 yeah it's not a secret let's see how
much it is after today too well I appreciate you doing this because this gives us a an ability to get the word out yes and it's important to get the word out to get the other things to fall in place yeah I think it's important too and um I appreciate the fact that you you enjoy the [ __ ] out of this prehistory stuff dude I do I love it and I also love the way you're handling it I think it's it's we're very fortunate that a guy like you owns that piece where you willing
to talk about it publicly and make a stink about it and let everybody know like there's a real part of the puzzle in the history of this Earth that's right there it's not that even that complicated a puzzle the puzzling part is what the [ __ ] is am andh doing they've had those bones in their basement for a hundred [ __ ] years they were required in the original deal to do a report on every bone they took and they were only supposed to take bones of s scientific value this bone has no scientific
value to them they took it this bone has no scientific value to them they took it none of the bones they took have scientific value primarily because they don't know where they found them I have all that information in my files I have all the stratagraph information of everything they found don't you guys think you ought to weld it to me yeah and what to say well this bone came out of 35 ft on which Chopper Creek Gold Stream Creek Miller Creek whatever Creek it came off so you you could be able to find the
exact locations and where it was dug yeah so let me ask you this in a in a best case scenario what would happen they would give you the bones back and then what would you do the experts would come in after I built a facility where they study them I I understand they're not going to uh we have a we have a lab in San Francisco we're going to send the bones to San Francisco uh-uh uh-uh we'll have a lab here here I'll build the [ __ ] I've already offered this up to them and
they still don't jump on the chance how many dumb shits are around like me maybe you have to build it first and they will come like the [ __ ] Field of Dreams yeah that was a movie by the way I love that movie it's a good movie but I uh I've learned my lesson on if you build it they will come yeah cuz we built we just built one they didn't show up so we use it we use it for our own purposes well maybe we could put the bat signal out here on this
show and there's got to be some paleontologists that are absolutely fascinated by this that are willing to figure out a way to make it work because they just can't take the bones out of Alaska and they got to be like no [ __ ] researchers scientists people that know what they're talking about cuz I don't they're going to want it for museums huh they can't have it right but that's probably what's going to like if they do find some extraordinary stuff the way they get value out of it is by putting it on display doing
studies on it and then putting it on display so people can come pay money to see it right if I go to amh let's say every day for every once a week for 52 weeks it's the same displays every week so all the stuff they collect doesn't go on display goes down in the storage or it goes out in the East River the deal with my company the the nozzleman they called them there were 200 guys working Giants and the giant guys the nozzle guys part of the perks of working for that company was if
you find a Tusk you can have it they could take the tusks home with them really yeah and the skulls and whatever else they found no one cared back then nobody cared the company didn't care take them and then these guys from New York the Swift talking City dudes they come in and go oh we want them so they made it so the men couldn't take them and they took them all scientific value nothing they took them all well let's let's just imagine you're the grandson of one of the old style nozzleman that is who's
now dead but he passed that Tusk along to his kid and now it's yours that Tusk could be worth $200,000 that could come in handy to that family maybe they could have used that money along the way instead of not having it instead of the am just having it in their basement and the letter that is on there talks about hundreds hundreds of tusks that were shipped there I've seen them it's not like I'm making this [ __ ] up I I was down there I took pictures of them you were down there in the
basement in the basement it's incredible these these big crates haven't been opened ever and they just filled with tusks well the tusks are on these big shelves like you see at Costco that go way up high yeah just shelves of shelves and bison heads and wow stuff and then the crates are the bones leg bones teeth how the [ __ ] can they just leave that there it's in storage that seems so insane that you have this extraordinary place that really doesn't get attention until you get on social media and then the world knows about
it but they've known about it for a hundred years like that seems like something you would want people to know about nobody gave a [ __ ] my company didn't care until you know they didn't Envision a guy like me coming along and owning this company they had no no when I when I bought the company I started going through the files going let's see what I bought you know like the let's see what oh look at that I got a lease with the government oh here's another one I got another lease with the government
yeah I got a piece over here guy offered to buy now I don't want to sell it so I go through all these things and I find the deal with the bones and I went to the museum I said I bought Alaska gold company I want to go get the bones he goes I was wondering when you're going to show up off to New York we go got bullshitted oh yeah we're going to return them when we after we take care of the asbest is abatement problem up down there anyway I told you all this
and yeah they have yet to get a hold of us it's gone to our state uh legislature to see if they can help it's coming back to Alaska those are my bones and if they're afraid that it's going to go well Reeves you know they're worth a lot of money you know he he could sell them look just send them back and if I want to sell them I'll sell them they're my bones also you haven't sold what you have it doesn't even make any sense it's it's a [ __ ] hobby you know we're
all Queer for something you know some people collect stamps some people collect coin collect coins my mom used to collect napkin or you know quilts and stuff like that I collect bones in historic sites I like his well I got a degree in history you probably didn't know that historic pre uh preservation I like to fix up old [ __ ] was talking to a guy about the NaNa which where the golden spike was driven by Harding that just went up to for auctions on Christies what is that explain that a golden spike railroad spike
that Warren Harding came up and drove in the in the railroad back in the 20s um when they completed the Alaska railroad from Anchorage up to NaNa which is how do they keep someone from stealing that well they didn't leave it in there long oh they drove it in they took the photo off they did all that then pulled it out pulled it out and somebody bought it and somebody else bought it whoa look at that that's crazy wow so I did some figuring on the weight of it and figured how much gold content was
in it $200,000 yep wow it was only it was only Vue at like 30 to 50 but just the historical significance of it makes it worth 200 Grand yeah and and I know the guys that bought it I was on the I was on the auction I had the guy on a phone and it didn't take long for me to go past I ain't buying it I don't want it and it kept going and kept going and kept going did you think it was going to stop at I I was going to stop at around
70 it kept going it kept going going he kept going well that's probably the same kind of thing that happened with your saber 2 tiger skull oh [ __ ] that was giv away to somebody you think so oh God you don't think somebody gave him money for it oh they gave money but it wasn't sold it was like a donation I'm a benefactor here's right here's for the new Wing right what do you got you got any of that Egyptian stuff laying around yeah I want a sarcophagus what do you say boys I bet
there's a ton of old school families that have like deep old school money that have stuff like that squirreled away somewhere well you can they're always getting arrested for stealing [ __ ] Mo mostly they're Museum employees if you if you ever Google it's it's amazing what these guys steal from the from the oh yeah museums aren't money makers right you're going to make money you're not going to go own a museum you know you're going to go do whatever to do to make money but museums don't make money so the guys that work there
they go out in the field and some gu says well look what I found well that's very interesting that looks like a saber-tooth I mean it looks like just a cow head well can you find out for me yeah sure I'll take it off your hands yeah and off he goes who's got the bones timeline reveals Park Service employees covered up theft of ancient remains case of missing Bones from the Effigy Mounds National Monument took multiple investigations more than 20 years to locate them wow I'm not shocked well we got a site in Florida that
we've allowed the University of North Florida to dig on for decades it's on a Indian Mountain there right on the St John's river and every year I allow them to come out and dig and they found so far they've found hundreds of thousands of artifacts we're talking about archaeological stuff you know arroe heads shark teeth with drilled holes through them jewelry beads you name it whatever they made out of fish bones and animal bones and how do you wind up always finding these spots to park at where where it turns out there's a bunch of
ancient stuff in them I didn't my parents bought this property when I was a young guy but I spent a lot of time as a 9 10 11 12 13 year old kids just digging I like digging in the dirt and uh the Alaska stuff was about gold but it didn't take long to find the bones and the bones to me they're more fun they're more you know they're not worth anything to me cuz I don't sell them another Scandal that the M&H was involved in recently facing scrutiny a museum that holds 12,000 human remains
changes course American Museum of national history said it would address its collecting of remains which stretched into the 1940s and including practices now viewed as abusive and racist so it must be Native American bones there's a bu wow all sorts of stuff actually but same time period we're talking about I like how they put it they're they're planning to overhaul their stewardship of more than 12,000 human remains painful Legacy of collecting practices that saw the museum acquire the skeletons of indigenous and enslaved people taken from their graves in the bodies of New Yorkers who died
as recently as the 1940s wow they probably got reconstruction of a burial of a Warrior from Mongolia in about 1,000 ad wow they decided to remove that I mean that's just a picture I they going to leave it there what are you doing look they were obviously doing some stuff oh they're not they're not the only ones doing this smithsonian's doing this stuff too I'm sure and um there's not much I can do about it I mean it's well especially there's no argument if they've had it sitting on their shelves for all this time and
I've offered to make this happen make it let's get it back back here it's you know an endless you know tilt and the windmill and all that stuff but you know I never met you before a few years ago and prior to that I would just say the only guy I'll talk to is Joe Rogan about this because if I'm not talk to anybody I'm going to talk to the most influential man on Earth and you weren't supposed to call me but here I am for the third time listen of course I was supposed to
I'm fascinated because I didn't want to tell this story I just wanted to keep boning and now that it's going everybody wants me to do all this [ __ ] work I'm not a research scientist I don't have all these machines I can't do all this stuff what are you asking me for go to amh that's their job that's what they got paid to do what are you chewing in my ass for well best case scenario as we described they give it back to you researchers get involved you build a facility on site they study
it everybody learns everybody's happy that's right yeah and we when we have some knowledge at the end of the day yeah that we don't have now we won't get if we don't do something like this cuz all my bones come from one little two acre spot and you talk about insitu you know in place it's right there yeah you can't find a bone here and find one nine miles away and somehow say they're from the same area but you can sure find them there and you can find out where they exactly came from you can
figure out what that that piece you're holding you can tell how many times it had sex male or female what its diet was where it traveled to there's things that you can find out in the college and that you you could never find out 20 30 years ago so it's it's kind of cool and very cool I just got to wait for these other guys to come along I talked to max out there he's my other son-in-law with Drew and um married to my penultimate daughter Jordan and he's he's a really good lawyer and his
interest is in nil have you heard of that no nil's name image likeness oh okay for the kids coming out of high school college and stuff for the pro sports MH and he played football for Oregon he was a center I watched him play in a rose bow good guy and we were talking a little bit about the legalities of stuff like this and he's pretty good on contracts and he's read this stuff and said ah you got him by the balls man cuz he got the receipts I guarantee you those guys don't have the
receipts they probably trashed them years ago but I got every one of them I got all the letters I got the communications well John I really hope you make some ground I really do I plan on no pun intended we'll tear some up you tearing some ground up I appreciate you're out there always fighting this fight and letting people know about this extraordinary discovery that you found on your place man it's [ __ ] amazing it's always great to have you here let's keep doing it it's been a pleasure it's always a pleasure seeing you
and Jamie every year I hope we make a little progress next year I hope we have something big to discuss y we uh I hope I hope it cracks I hope this motivates a lot of people this podcast you know and I I think people need to be refreshed every year to realize how a what an extraordinary place you have and how crazy it is that there's not more work being done here yeah it it's such a simple solution just do the right thing just do the right thing and just call me up and say
okay come get them I'll have tractor trailers parked out there in 24 hours Let's load them up boys they're going north put them on the rail out in Seattle send them farther north we got warehouses full of this stuff I'm at the point now where I'm going maybe I should just concentrate on what we do for living instead of the hobby you I can keep digging them up but what good is it if we're not going to study them I going to leave that area alone it's got good gold I don't need to dig the
gold out of there the Gold's beneath the bones and we got to get to the gold you got to go through the bones and we'll get the gold someday but we found a spot out north of town where we can't we couldn't get drilled to bedrock it's 450 ft deep the old-timers tried to drill it they couldn't go deep they couldn't get to the bottom of it and I think that's where the [ __ ] hot stuff hit really 25 miles north of town I think that's where the high stuff the Hot Stuff hit 450
ft and you don't hit Bedrock are you kidding what happened there it blew a [ __ ] hole in the ground wow unfortunately I don't own that claim but I know who does I'm not telling them where it's at yeah but I have the records that show what happened there well I hope somebody does some investig on that it'd be cool [ __ ] yeah it would be the answers there's a lot of answers in these bones that we don't know what the questions are yet so it's it's nice that you enabled me to come
in and John I appreciate you very much you're the [ __ ] man you're the man it's always great to see you you're the guy thank you for all the stuff too you bet thank you that will take a permanent spot on the desk now good thank you brother Mammoth magic dude yes I feel it I feel magic coming off of it yeah you will I got you some guitar picks in that all right I'll give more to Gary well do it again next year my friend I'll set you up if you got any other
players you want all right thank you sir thank you bye everybody bye everybody [Music] [Applause] [Music]
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