[Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] Our guest today is a behavioral neuroscientist, she transformed her career after facing a moment of exhaustion And now she is dedicated to sharing her understanding of the human mind and the importance of self-knowledge during In our conversation we will talk about Burnout behavioral triggers anxiety procrastination self-sabotage compulsions and to find emotional balance with you Bruna de mantas [Music] Hello, everyone, welcome to another episode of pod people, a place where we meet to see and listen to people People who Do People who happen People who inspire Our guest today is a
behavioral neuroscientist her name is Bruna de mantas Everything is good, my dear, how are you ? What an honor, my God, I can't even fit in, everything is fine, I want Good evening, Bruna, how good of you accept our invitation, very good, we've been chasing you for a while now, but we're so subtle that you didn't even notice that you were being chased, I don't know, chased, but the day you noticed me, I told everyone, I made a print, mandi, I was already there. It was a long time ago, right, my dear, I wanted you
to tell us a little bit about your life and a little bit about this turning point that you made in your life, you had a wonderful career within a large company linked to the marketing area and suddenly You did it like this, I thought it was beautiful because I like people who understand that life is movement, if we stay still we become sludge and you, somehow, there after so many years, you said, I won't be sludge in life, tell us a little bit this trajectory I think everyone has their own point of mud, right, I
reached my point of mud And then there aren't many options So, in fact, I was a person who always really wanted to be independent, have my own life and make it happen and make it happen and I wanted to win And I thought that this came with making money as quickly as possible as much as possible that would give you this power this power of Independence, right, of not depending on anyone and then I chose my profession Exactly because it was the best salary I started my career from all those available, right, so I went
to do marketing, I went to a well-known college in São Paulo, SPM, I graduated, if I dedicated myself to it, I'm going to do my part, I want to start off on the right foot, I started working when I was 17 years old in the field, so the first semester of college I started to work with blood in my blood, then I was invited to go work at one of the biggest companies in the world, which is H Lever in 2007, how old were I? 26, I'm not very young, right? So I wore it from
beginning to end I fell in love with the business because it's very seductive it's very seductive for a person who wants to do the business and I was very good as I was very good at sea I specialized over time in changing Consumer behavior so I started going to I took care of Latin America and then I went to live in New York taking care of projects that were to change Consumer behavior so Unilever sold this I wanted to sell that I was going to help make this transition to that behavior you compatible with the
new product, this exactly to create the desire to consume the new product of the new product, a simple example of course, like this, people, Unilever is a commodities company, right, so I'm not talking about things, cars and things like that, I'm talking about deodorant, soap, those things It's one of the projects that I took care of. For example, it was going from bar soap to liquid soap because it's a behavioral movement, if you think about it, it's definitely a habit, you know, you start adopting one thing over another and I did that, I did that
mine entire career and I was very good at what I did, you were intense, I was very intense, you had this very intense approach to life and so on and made the project happen, I had that thing of working endless hours of dedicating myself deeply and to Unilever, I think that just like every corporate place realizes these people who are willing, you know, to donate their lives, let's say in quotation marks and stick with Resident, so I was promoted every year, which is very consistent, and then look what an interesting thing that it happens in
2016 I was engaged my fiancé dies in an accident um it's 5 months before our wedding Uhum And then instead of dealing with the grief I get stuck at work I worked more aou I break down at work work mind went to the drug PR anesthetize escape from anesthesia it was his escape and at the same time he started to develop anorexia nervosa uhum hum because he's going somewhere he's going, right ? Deadlier than you stop eating, right, eating, controlling your not eating, having control over something impossible, I was always super controlling . I spoke
in a short time, right, 2016 2018 my father had cancer in 4 months from health to death death and I was going crazy working, I was going to the hospital to do me Cantão with my father I work with the computer compador having meetings of do do ma these very crazy things And then when my father passed away, Unilever offered me the job in India and said, oh, we would really like you to take on a project in India just to change the behavior of a billion and a half people and me and I, in
the madness of not respecting me in no way accepted it I accepted it and was anesthetized you increased the intensity of the Escape you didn't experience any moment of grieving for the groom or grieving for the father I didn't I lived and then I arrived in India a difficult reality much more difficult than I expected and even more so when You live, you didn't go there as a tourist, right? You're living there, working in a company, I became an alcoholic Uhum So I was anorexic and ALC donated a dose of the Fuga escape, you went
there posting loudly about I'm not going to stop, nothing's going to stop me, so I thought it was normal to take half bottle of vine every day, right, and in India It's funny because alcoholic drinks are hard to find, right, you have to go to specific places to buy alcohol, hotels So I was part of this movement of buying something really crazy, but it's ok, I was there and then They called me to go, they actually said what they offered me was India as a toll and they said, go to India, take care of this
project and then you can choose where you want to live, very very smart, right, anywhere in the world you can choose almost that pendulum, right? like tim tim tim Uhum And I chose to live in Amsterdam so I spent my one year Penance in India and went to the UNEL headquarters in the Netherlands and when I arrived in Amsterdam I was already at a level where I didn't understand anything for me normal life I'm excellent wonderful I'm productive, I'm productive, I'm doing everything right, it's wonderful, I'm still the professional table, incredible, wonderful beauty, I arrived
after months in Amsterdam, my boss calls me without any consideration of good, good boss, right, but she calls me and says, you're the worst professional I've ever worked with in my life you're terrible you 're a defective piece You're terrible she said so you lied to me in the selection process how do you have it because you can't lie, right? Unilever keeps scores keeps the scores you do right evaluation Tod and I had evaluations excellent excellent excellent el fal I don't know how you have so many excellent evaluations you don't even speak English properly what
did you do what did you do who did you seduce did you seduce everyone arrived a long time ago it's total and then she has This one gives me feedback that's much, much harsher than what I'm saying, but it was much worse than that, you were the one, I left there like that, but she didn't justify it, she just said that, no, she said that she said that I I was repetitive, I answered disconnected emails and people on the team didn't respect me, no one saw my leadership power, things like that, she was toxic anyway,
let's agree, I don't even know what the criteria were, but she was toxic . The objective was to make you bleed a little Total total and you had already been bleeding inside for a long time, yes, and I left there like that, what a crazy person, what a crazy person this is, putting the blame on her, I understood, I started researching How many people had worked for below her who had left because of Burnout, I started talking to them, articulating all of this to justify Our that this person is crazy and I am incredible until
I had a panic attack waiting for a bus waiting for a bus to go to the train in Amsterdam that you use public transport because I lived in Amsterdam and one in Rotterdam I started to break out in a cold sweat I started to I started having a palpitation, I started to have something like a fainting spell And then at that time, mom, you had never had this and at the time you didn't even know I was having a Pan, you said, I was having a Piripac, I had PIP Ana, completely disconnected from myself, I
was like I was a C control everything there like I'm out of control then I got sick I don't know what I went to the doctor there in Amsterdam it's a family doctor right so you first Go to the clinic near your house where you are registered and if you need he will give you forwarded to the specialist and then I went to the clinic and the doctor saw me and started asking me a questionnaire that I didn't know about. And then when the questionnaire was over she said, look, you're the most classic case of
Burnout that I've seen in the last few years I've seen to date. and it sinks in at that moment, no, my dear, the doctor was wrong, the doctor was wrong and I, how wonderful the universe is, the Netherlands was the first country in the world to have Burnout legislation, that's right, and I was there, so it's taken very seriously, um. Burnout diagnosis and They tell the company that you were diagnosed without you telling them Uhum it's compulsory compulsory this is compulsory and then I pretended nothing happened and she said you need to step away I
think they weren't going to talk it's No Obvious I didn't even know you existed Yes, she said you need to take time off from work, she gave me a certificate of three months of leave and you kept it uhum I kept it I said crazy to her that I'm going to follow her another crazy person there's a problem with the water leaving the water there's something against women women don't and I got home yelling at the doctor, I don't know what, okay, I took a while, then they called from Unilever HR and told me to
go there, I don't know what, I had to go through the evaluation, but it's expensive to keep you away, right, so it wasn't the doctor's initial thought. unil said so, why don't you reduce your workload a little, you gave me some options and in the meantime, right ? my therapist 2020 I met my therapist my therapist until today is not Brazilian Brazilian who is a wonderful witch and in a conversation with her my feelings started to sink in that I was very sick uhum right And that I needed to make very important decisions and at
the same time time spirituality This transition touched me, I was a person who for a long time distanced myself from spirituality, I do n't even want to know, right, it doesn't exist, this is for the weak to know, and what spirituality is, right ? right, everything and this reunion with spirituality at the same time that with the guidance of this very wise person made me realize things but this way I had the privilege I say it is an honor and a privilege and the business did it like this but it was through your therapist this
one opening the little door and some spiritual experiences that I had that you started to have and shared with her shared with her shared because you wouldn't tell anyone, no, that's what T's saying to you, they were so intense, they were such intense encounters with me same with with with me that I didn't know, right? That's how it is, right? I say that when the universe decides that this time is this time, right? I arrived and I arrived in the mud of the mud of the mud, I was at the end of 2019, I was
anorexic, alcotra me distracting myself in every possible way with very severe Burnout, I ended up losing my motor coordination in my Burnout because I couldn't ride a bike there in Amsterdam est. When riding a bike I would fall off the bike because the vestibular system is extremely altered, right, so I I couldn't read an email And then I saw when I started I said damn I'm really terrible I don't remember anything I can't start and finish a sentence I can't read a paragraph from beginning to end and I started a process And at that time,
nothing against it, folks, I think things have a place, but I was taking antidepressants, I was taking sleeping pills for years, I hadn't slept without sleeping pills In reality, you were doing it like this, give me something to keep me going, give me something and then you took the medicine Beia, I mean, it was the cause, it was the storm, it's not working, prisa, giving me some medicine, it's not working, giving me some medicine, it's working Rem Most people resort to it in this way, not with the maturity of it will help me with a
transition to one thing I'm going to look for is that it was so bad, so bad, so bad that an extra bad one had a problem, so I arrived in 2020, a lot of things to changing a lot of things in my life a huge list of things to change in my life but because I had these spiritual experiences I came very close to giving up on life so in December Amsterdam is a very cold country, right in December 2019 I was there alone in this absolutely dark place where everything I dedicated my life to,
I joke that it was my greatest wedding of my life, it was fun, right ? groom left, father left Lever was there it's cold not only in the cold sense, right human cold human warmth makes friends Exactly it's very difficult and I came very close to giving up very very very close and that was a watershed in my life because I I looked and said, wait, there's something very wrong because I did everything they said, which was the path to happiness, I'm a woman today, but because I didn't see anorexia, right ? incredible in a
wonderful apartment next to the park two dogs I never wanted to have children so for me that was the pinnacle of what everyone said was success and happiness I was absolutely unhappy unhappy very very unhappy very unhappy and when I started to improve right , in this encounter with the spirituality that comes from this place of What were the Episodes that happened? Do you mind saying it? commit suicide uhum to take away su vi but very close anyway eh I was going to do it with medication right And then you got to thinking no I
got to do the calculation organizing and leaving everything but then what did I think that I never said that before very controlling, no, I did all the calculations, I went on the internet, I saw the chemical coefficient of things that matched how much I needed So that there was no risk of going back To come back uhum, but then I planned it in a way that I said, I'm going to take two rivot Tris uhum when I have it I'll take the rest so I don't feel anything and when I took Rivotril at the time
I was taken to one to another Portal I opened a portal that you didn't know about and then I was told very strongly, not that Come back and do what you came to do, you almost had an EKM, a near-death experience, it is, it could be. It wasn't like this from the outside, but you entered into some one, one, one, let's say, a dimension that you didn't know about. I'm talking about zero zero and what do you mean I was in a movement very contrary to the spirit age until then super materialist super materialist happiness
that's it that's if I didn't arrive happy it's because I'm money I need more money more money more money must be more money is missing more power more success right It must be there because power So for me it was a business that I came back I did like this oh it's all wrong it's all wrong I understand everything er There you are as if you had the opportunity to see it from another angle right from another angle, as if she left the island to see the island, and at the same time I found ktia
who helped me put meaning into all of this, ak, she's not a therapist, she's not a therapist, she's a counselor, orent, a counselor, a mentor. spiritual a guru ok ok mentor I think it's more beautiful wonderful mentor my soul mother and then after a while she said Bruna we come to Earth to make our talent something useful you weren't talking about your talent something useful let's start You have to add up in life, it's about people, you came, you came to help all of us, right, all of us, so first you help yourself. find your
balance do yours when you have And then I understood like this she said this and she said to me the map of your future is in your past Uhum So what do you do with excellence that is easy for you and that it's not so easy for others since it's always been about Dom's talent And then I understood that I had the gift of changing behavior uhum, right ? do this take a difficult concept and make it easy uhum to sell something And then, but to sell it, not to transform the universe, it's very generous
when I was in this search, right, ah Behavior Change change course I always wanted I wanted to do a master's degree in my life but there was never time, right ? right, between finding the neuroscience course, the academic year, right, starts in September, but someone took you to that path, it was also an awakening, Google, sip, looking for things, start looking because as soon as I said beauty, then I'm good at changing behavior and I'm good at teaching behavior PR so what good thing is this I can use this then I said to health for
health PR for Health so I started thinking like this I started searching on Google Behavior Change for this area of health, right in English you changed The behavior change course came and then it appeared in the first behavioral neuroscience for behavior change at London College so I looked and said what are the chances at the academy outside of Brazil uhum at a traditional Ultra academy in England on a biological course, yes, it would be for psychologists, psychiatrists, but I can tell you, you were already doing it without knowing Uh, I didn't know, the people who
understand the most about behavioral marketing are the people who are just What's wrong with them, they don't know the power they have to add, that's what I joke about today, I could never go back to in quotes, I could go back to marketing because that's a nuclear bomb nowadays, right? But he was the one who brought you here, it was. bridge was bridge otherwise you wouldn't be it and if it weren't for him I wouldn't have the talent I have PR did it developed because you developed it you were only going one way then you
fixed the route that's it I went there I signed up for the English academy there a series of things you need to do I needed a scholarship because it's an incalculable fortune to take a course there and then you need a letter of recommendation, right in England for you To be approved on a course like this you need a letter of recommendation I called my rector of the SPM that I went to in 2004 Paulo I need a letter from you, you remembered him, I called the president of unilev Brasil, so when you want, you
do the business F cava, I met, I was approved, look, I was approved, I entered the Innocence course And then I say that like that, first classes, I had the honor of going back to studying, right, in the first weeks of classes, the pandemic changed everything online, I was going to move to London, pandemic, everything was online, so it's me and my little computer in the living room of my house in Amsterdam, the world I'm at a standstill, right, I open it there, first class ends I look at the class like this and speak it
wasn't in English this class wasn't English I didn't understand a word of what was being said I didn't understand anything I understood nothing at first what language was it what language was it people weren't speaking English Mandarin was that then I started reading Cent studies had never read a scientific study in my life, never had an article, nothing, article, I started crying, I said, what am I, where did I put myself ? No, it's not going to work, I got into it, I took a step that was much bigger than I could take at this
moment, no wisdom in here, that's how it stays, breathe and turn around uhum, turn around there are things much more difficult in your life I found out what language they speak you have already changed both cities and cultures and managed to adapt to the English of scientific articles and the British English of scientific article spoken by neuroscientists, right, no, you must have said Guys, what is that ? I can't even understand why they pronounce it differently and not only that, right. And they start citing the authors exactly as if everyone knew who they were they
are saying exactly, right? And then I had to do it. I got five private teachers online, all online, ahem, right at that time, at that time, and I started studying biochemical biology to be able to understand what they were saying. Thank God I I studied behavioral neuroscience, which doesn't talk about diseases, right? It doesn't have this part about pathologies. This part is much more interesting . at the end of my course, do an original thesis, which is something that people don't do there because normally you take a piece of a doctoral student's thesis and help
him finish it and I said no, I'm going to do an original thesis, I decided to start from scratch like I'm putting my life to rest, I'm going to write an original thesis, not that it's a lot of work, but that's okay, that's just the thing about being clueless, as I didn't have a minor, I'd never written a thesis in my life If she said PR, someone would go say, do it, don't do it, I hadn't seen anyone take a test, I said no, innocence is wonderful, wonderful, ignorance also in this aspect and I even
think that this thing about the pandemic helped you because if you had a lot of contact with people, let it go, wow You're going to get involved in something you've never done before, it was her and she was Mel, the universe, the universe can communicate better with you and my teachers, right, the private teachers I got, they say no to me, you're messing up You're doing well because I started with those who, like, in the first few months, angels, right, they were angels that you found along the way, total, total , me at the beginning,
in the first three four months, it was C is 10, CCO is 10, because that's how it passed in the subject, vibrating, vibrating, I was always a nerd. Estudios But you thought five was wonderful, look what a beautiful thing, it was already making you more flexible, you who were a very rigid person were already changing a lot, a lot, a lot, my process was a lot like this, I cured myself of anorexia, which is a word that many of my nutritionist friends say don't use that word when you talk but I'm a person that I
really cured myself I understood I understood Never again will the person who was anex no longer live in me so I don't have the aces and also one thing you don't have the neurox in your entire story it appeared as a symptom it appeared as a symptom that preceded the entire Burnout so symptom can you cure it if it is structural no people always have to I always say I do the primary and secondary diagnosis this thing that everything is everything It's not, it's well, I did the thesis, I decided to do it. My thesis
was whether a cell phone application based on behavioral teaching could help diabetes patients who had just discovered the disease to make the first necessary behavioral changes in a more efficient way than the health service, I understand, you created a therapeutic application, I took one, since it already existed, which was one of the works, but because I took one from London College, which was svid for it, but asked if that would be effective, would it be effective? It's good why someone goes there and says, oh, you have diabetes and you need to stop eating. I understand,
right? How much more would work ? people, right, because everything is there because, right, it was so much work to find the app to find people to do it in public, that in the end I only got six people and then they loved my proposal and failed, but in the pandemic, right, that was all that was needed, you You did the right thing in the right place at the right time and then the course management said, look, are you willing to leave your thesis to the student in the next class so he can increase his
number so we can publish it and in return we give you access to more One year, whatever you want, in terms of biology, I'll think about it, but yes, yes, oh, wait, let me see and so I never had any marriage with mine I was never an academic I didn't want to be so for me it doesn't matter if someone else was the leader of my thesis and the person who took it did much better than me Wow excellent he was that thing I passed the baton to the right person Total did much better than
me and then I took advantage and stayed and in that second moment of relaxation then I learned a lot more and I got in touch with the science of personality which is something I love and it was This is my trans story this second year, right? And when you stopped and said, well, I changed direction, but how will I live from here because you were still an employee ? eh be your own your own company be your own management then you took the first step you said so I'm still there at Unileve but I'm here
doing a parallel universe you resigned So you were taking the sabbatical and I was doing it when it started neuroscience So you had already asked for a mission, okay, so you resigned, you took all your reserves that you had made to invest in this change and It was incredible because just like the Netherlands had the Burnout legislation, you had Su I made an agreement Um, I had the right the lawyer, everything was fine, so I made a very generous agreement with Unilever, even with that, it was cool, right? You ended up with a very good
marriage like that, it was a long-lasting marriage, it wasn't a long-lasting marriage that was good for both parties and that ended with dignity, it brought people like that who live in my life to this day are incredible, look at one thing. It's true that there are incredible professionals in this company working like this, and most of them have already left, right ? Even though I don't think we can make it true like that, all companies are horrible, I think that big companies are great learning experiences and they are Bridges, you don't have to live and
die there, I don't think anyone lives in the same place all the time, I I think this is not healthy I think there is a moment when it is very cool when you give this energy you see the fruit because you have a structure that you plant and you see Understand now there is a time when it is time to Leave and I see that whoever passes this point exactly ends up being corrupted by the system like this, so I often see people who are further along in their careers and then suddenly end up failing
a little in this understanding of the human being, right? They become a gear, right? of this movement But it is a personal opinion also personal opinion I agree and I agree so that when you understand when you are awake when you are conscious it doesn't matter Where you are exactly it doesn't matter Where you are today I could easily return to a leadership position of marketing that Bruna, who is here, would continue sitting on it, no, that's invariable here, for sure, but what happened, you know, so life kept inviting me for two years, you dedicated
yourself, I dedicated myself to the gym, of course, so I had that period of ah, I'll come in In a doctorate , you don't get into the doctorate, is that it? living outside Brazil for a long time and I knew that my mother would need me uhum right a series of things happened in the family she was very alone her father had already left my father had already left Eh my brother was in his life so I I I said it's time to go back back it's time to go back And then at the end
of 2022 I closed everything and went back to Brazil and And then a week after I came back I met my mother, my mother already got sick and it wasn't a first one first stage of this illness and she spent almost four weeks in the hospital and after years of running away from this relationship because I had a very difficult relationship with my mother, I was forced by life with a capital v to stay with El 12 hours a day for four weeks with with her helping her who had mobility problems Uhum So it was
like that and at that time now it's time to put in practice you learned like ass by theory beautiful woman it's wonderful now the universe said let's do an internship Let's put it into practice to see if you understood what you learned and I played with Kátia at that time that 5 was also 10 uhum I said today today I I went 5.2 Uhm but little by little it got easier Exactly because this understanding that what was happening there was for me and not for my mother suddenly leaves when I prove your truth, heaven does
it like that oh and you say that, our role is My no, I'm not here to I'm here to become the human being that I need to be to be able to do what I came to do Uhum it was the internship it was the practical stage of life uhum this is my great teacher and by the way it's yours mother too but she is giving you This teacher this opportunity for you to practice this growing up and it was an intense intense opportunity and I say that one of the moments in my life when
I looked and said, I'm willing, I'm going to learn, come come to me, let's go I don't know everything there yet but I'm going to do my best and I'm going to learn I'm willing I want to learn the universe I'm willing Uh how cool it was there if and then and then that period was a lot of learning a lot of learning with myself so it's very funny when you find yourself with your shadows, you know, deeper than you have the opportunity to look at them and say, oh you here, look, look, control, you're
still here, wonderful, so let's go, how do we make PR live a prosperous life, right? I followed this path for a little while and then in 2023 I started to promote this business of I'm going to make an Instagram, I need to bring quality knowledge because what I noticed in the gym, especially in the English gym, I don't know how there is a Face here, it's a matter of that what is being said is not understandable, it seems like a legal thing, you know, when you listen to those people, that legal text that seems like
there is an academic there, as if the knowledge has to be kept that you cannot pass on, it goes up, you know, kind of like that. Only we who know this cryptography here will have knowledge, we can't, we can't pass PR forward, when you try to leave a little, they keep coming, that's because it gives us power, right, it's changing, there's a new generation in academia, we've been welcoming people here that took a hit Bessa but but it's persisting it's doing it I think that in 10 years we will have a more Generous academic environment
I think I started to see this I said man everyone has brains I have an MTE that I say no We can't fix what we don't know how it works Exactly, we're here trying to fix crazy behaviors But we don't know how it works, where it comes from or else we fall into the trap of getting people who say they are super knowledgeable and don't explain to you how it works. it works but it gives you rules to follow it makes you a conditioned animal almost pavil viano We are not works zero it is and
it works zero because I say brains are individual it works for 15 days 20 days within an experience within an experience the person will change in After 15 days, he's back to the behavior, you know, why don't you understand, right? And that's really beautiful, right? I'm going to tell you something interesting. I really like Big Five, understanding Big Five's personality, I think it's incredible, the way he is. placed and has an important correlation with science, it's very cool and then when I arrived, I was doing some research, which I told you, I asked GPT right
at the beginning, Big F, there are five major traits and each major trait has six Spectrum, right? are you or are you not you can be anywhere in the Spectrum But the behavior is spectral you have no doubt it's perfect o Big oo Big f that's why it's accurate I agree uhum 100% you have my heart that's why it is It's true and then I asked For GPT, if I were to do all the possible crossings everywhere in the Spectrum of the five traits with six subtractions, I got the results and he answered me 8.2
billion possibilities, there are 8 billion human beings, it's perfect, you said that the Big F is a test who wins your heart, mine won my mind a long time ago, then I opened it to my heart, you understood me first won by Cara this is very serious this is good PR this is good and then you say there is no one like anyone else there is no point you want to want to keep changing your behavior like your little friend because you do what you do I always tell people that I attend to what can
be like Dib bodybuilding and body combat I don't know what can be common o How is it totally different exactly no poem you can be framed in a big in a big in a big bubble but within that bubble you will have to have a script that is yours in general you will have to write it for sure when you are not the author of your script it does not work because it is your brain that has to be convinced it is your brain but you understand that you give this power to me I've always
invested a lot in this with my patients and today we're here on the podcast for that too if you are Tell this to people, teach this to people they will they won't be a power maneuver for anyone Amen I always say this to all the people who arrived for mentoring, which was something that the universe brought to me, I didn't go, people began to appear to mentor , I always say my objective with you is to give you Total autonomy, that you are free, 100%, I will help you with this behavior that you want to
change now but so that you can apply this throughout your life to anything because the logic is unique and it is yours, right ? seeing that within social media there was a space to convey quality knowledge in my very layman way of conveying knowledge, speaking like that, man, I know what it's like to not know, no, and it's not a layman, no, you had lay training for laypeople, right? but I think the main objective is because the thing is, when I, as a layman, encountered neuroscience, it was very difficult, it was a difficult encounter, and
when I left, it was your choice to do it in a different way. When I left, I said, you can do it. be different from this because this here is Golden information people need to know this here but it doesn't need to be so hard so difficult with five private teachers there is no way to make this accessible digestive information because the academy already knows this concept I want to talk about this in another way that you don't have and you know what is very beautiful in my journey of a year with this Instagram that
grew absurdly so quickly and I'm very very grateful for that. a lot of psychologists and a lot of nutritionists and a lot of doctors who follow me because what I see is unfortunately these people who take care of other people didn't have access to How human behavior works but that's right you're kind of scratching in the dark there with better inç Bit that These people are looking for this because this wasn't taught in college, it's because you get a nutritionist, I always say this, if there's anyone who would make a difference to humanity if they
were effective, it's nutritionists. Because from the moment you eat well, you give yourself all the days, three times a day, self-love in the form of food, you will be a better person for yourself, there is no way at least in the physical and mental dimension, at the very least. So if the nutritionist understands that everything he does will have to be specific to that person who It's in front of him understanding who that person is because because how the brain works, it gets easier, it gets easier, it's very complex, but it's a complex that in
practice becomes very simple, and when you acquire how it works, you start to direct your brain You drive the cart of your exact existence and when you're not you I say it's the difference you're either at the steering wheel or you're there in the passenger seat shouting don't do that don't do that don't turn around here perch I don't know what that you're not the one driving, directing your life or you're taking an Uber and you're going to suffer the consequences of what they're driving . from Marcelo's aunt, my partner and she has cancer Uhum
And she is undergoing treatments I don't know what and I say this is very common in the medical world today I hope this changes a lot and I turned to her, she's undergoing treatment, she's telling me about the treatment, I said someone explained to you what cancer is, no, I said, you don't know what you have . treatment with recovery or well-being in this process involves exact knowledge which is the same as behavior I'm absolutely sure that you want to go with intensity, you really want to make these changes in your life, but why couldn't
you do it because you're not doing it the right way ? Per know your your machine when you know your machine You master everything, don't you And then you have control then you gather the will knowledge cont and what you take is control is control of the Rig for a long time you had a wonderful machine but you weren't in control of it and that's why you often end up overturning when you see it dominating control Look how interesting the control of ignorance is terrible uhum because he gets sick it bothers him he despairs and
he panics he feels scared and in security, right, it's in your book, go, go to Panic, there's no way around control, from a cerebral point of view, it's the solution to insecurity, exactly, so I'm feeling insecure, control, control, so there will be people who go against it energetically, which can't be maintained It cannot be maintained exhausting And because you are raining in the wet, right ? to be a, right, to be a metaphor that I say that we have in Biology, for example, insulin resistance, antibiotic resistance, what is it, when you put your biology to
something for an excessive amount of time, the organism starts to become a little deaf to it? that right, so in the insulin house there is so much glucose that that amount of insulin the cell no longer listens, you know, insulin goes there and knocks, it says, it doesn't listen and in the case of antibiotics you take so much antibiotics that the bacteria talk like that oops no R, right, Oops, oregano seasoning, he thinks we don't know him, so I say that in Behavior Change, the same thing happens, brains that get used to failing. In other
words, you try to implement a diet, you don't succeed, you try again, you don't succeed, and you don't. Can you guys, I'm talking like this, three months of dieting is not something that your brain understands as a change in behavior, you have not become a new human being, the beginning is the beginning of a possibility of change, exactly and especially when you are doing it through willpower, rigidity and discipline because these three are the combination of no effective change in control, right, because when you change you don't need willpower, discipline or rigidity, you simply are,
you are, right, that's what change is, I joke that So, for example, you want to see an interesting change that you implement in your life so that you understand that it is a change in habit, start drinking a glass of water every day when you wake up in the morning, you will see that in a while you will feel thirsty in the morning you no longer need to intentionally S make and get a glass of water you your body will tell you it's time for a glass of water and then you changed no and we
have this problem so we try to implement a diet it fails because you don't know how, right? So, take the blogueirinha's diet, I'm going to do this one, go to the nutritionist, no, now, I'm going to do this one, now I'm going to do this one, I'll send you the exact time And then it fails, it fails, it fails, so what happens when you propose a change for your brain it's an energy expenditure, right ? so fast and for example if you do weight training it takes so long think about how many behaviors you have
open your cell phone Go to Instagram go to the feed scroll the feed four behaviors do brain circuit very very simple simpler but repeats itself exactly think think about doing bodybuilding start putting the sneakers in your face what clothes am I going to wear what clothes am I going to wear I'm going to get there exactly And then you get there you have to do a lot of exercise you've never done in yours, you don't have to work on all those machines You have to wait your turn depending on what you have to wait your
turn you have to know how to use those devices so once you do 86 behaviors in a session of 10 weight training exercises then 4 and 86 86 is much easier so when you are proposing to your brain an 886 diet they are going to be 86 because you need to learn how to make the egg buy things different from what you bought filling your fridge getting out of the routine getting out of the routine structuring yourself into a different routine than youo you're already used to millions of so like this every time you have
an implementation that's 86 joking yes yes uh an easy way to say it goes it will be difficult it will be difficult to lose to four very difficult so start from that principle so if you start doing 86 Then you ask your brain to go to the gym with buy clothes buy sneakers go there and talk to the teacher start doing the thing I know what do you give up again again the fifth time you're going to do it And then the number is random, ok guys the fifth time you're going to do it you're
going to do it like this and I'm not going to help you again, not again this joke is going to end in halfway I'm not going to create a new road for your little joke No, I'm not going to try hard here, so what am I going to give you? Your brain knows you, it knows exactly what to tell you to give up And then it will say Today was the day very tough today you fought with your boss today we're going to sit on the sofa and he's very powerful is doin is and he's
going to talk to the extent that you didn't go to the gym today he's going to talk like this tomorrow oh now he's given up now that's enough, right now so he tells you Do you know? So, for me, change is resistance when you've tried to change so many times and we suffer from this syndrome almost like everyone, right? Because we keep trying to change in the wrong way, saying that the zone and there is also the comfort zone, right? The brain is a very cheap little machine. It's beautiful, dazzlingly complex, but if you leave
it, it will only do the next thing to survive. It will survive and seek pleasure. Quickly, preferably without much effort. So, if we leave it loose, it will do the same things, I have one. phrase that became super famous on my Instagram which is brains prefer known hells to unknown paradises exactly and now I'm breaking it down because if you leave your brain alone it wants to survive it wants to survive for it known where I know how to survive I know how to survive in what I know security So let's do more of the
same thing he likes to keep what I say, brains are sane, they have meticulous budgets, he doesn't like you messing with his budget, change is messing with his budget, he doesn't like any changes, leave him alone Goa exactly, so when we If you want to propose a change, we need to understand that we need to do it in a much simpler way. We need to simplify, not make it more complex. The more complex you make it, the more difficult it will be for you to adopt . almost a little thing that you do like this,
well, don't let him see that I'm changing, I'm doing it so stealthily That he's saying something Fantastic For example, when I'm going to do physical activity, the day I'm going out in the morning, I already leave the clothes ready the night before my love, while I'm brushing my teeth I distract him by brushing his teeth I'm already putting them on and I go and get out in the car he's still like that but it's cold it's cold today did you notice that it's cold so I say then I turn on the The radio plays some
music really loud and I say Shut up and when it's over I sit in the car and take a shower and then he says like this, it's good, it's good that we B said it, I told us to go Exactly, it's almost a schizophrenic thing, I say, there's my conscience and there he is, we are entering into an agreement, you understand, I have a music I we have to do these tricks people don't think you're smarter than your brain he's much closer than you in terms of keeping you in place of change resistant love he's
been here for how many thousand years doing this surviving surviving and looking for Pleasures a song that I like a lot every time I start Oh I don't think I'm going today I'll play the song Because it's already a business look out ah call it unwritten unwritten you know Bru that bru is the boy with the songs not you If you don't know, see here because this song is incredible, a very cool song, because we're going to put it on our list, every day before we start recording we take some really crazy photos, you know,
of the team. At the end of the day, this song is also It's incredible, the lyrics are incredible, the rhythm is also important because it's important to pulse, it's very perfect, let's go today, Aqua Mica, you can't be sad when you have lunch, we can listen to this song, it's perfect, but I think that's it, right, when we're working with this brain that is resistant to change, it is important that you don't clash, you can't clash This is what you are putting forward, which is neuroscience in practice, yes, exactly in reality what you are putting
it like this, I'm not creating anything, I'm just taking what the brain is doing the following I have a brain we have a brain but fear a machine I have to know how to operate it if I don't know how to use this machine it will be bad or it will be very bad or I will live in mass, I won't have individual awareness and come back to the masses, I'll be repetitive there like you, Bruna, you, you had a movement, which is the movement that people say, to be happy, you need this, this, this,
this, in your case, financial independence, eh decision-making power success being beautiful, thin, desired, right, powerful That's what it was and you took that without going through any creation of essence and you were like, are there going to be other people, which is what, then we're going to grow up, we're going to go to college, so on. getting married, having three children, a country house, I don't know what's house, then you're managing that damn house that calls, I don't know what, it's a stress, you just go there, your friends get dirty, everything and you go crazy,
ex I joke that every one bought their fairy tale, right? And then they try to make the fairy tale happen, exactly adapting their life to the fairy tale. I say this a lot to my mother because for many years I bought the fairy tale that mothers are beings who most They love us only they have to welcome you with unconditional love and I felt wronged that I said that but why does everyone have it I don't have it either but the vast majority have this feeling they don't have the courage to speak up and then
I looked at that and said, I'm a poor thing because like everyone else has it and I have no way I'm going to be happy without that without that on my resume when I understood that That was exactly what allowed me to be who I needed to be to live See with That's it, I said it, wow, it's incredible, it's so difficult, it doesn't need much, it's so difficult, but we can't understand that father and mother are beings like any other and in reality, you often look at them, they are more fragile that you are
more afraid than you or less than you and there is beauty in that because when you say the thing about Unconditional Love is Accepting people as they are is not doing everything Oh I love you unconditionally you will show it in the face and I will being on your side is not respecting each other's team, learning to open the letter that each one brings to you, which is true compassion, exactly, right, I, human, you, human, human in our imperfection, seeking evolution, and I'm going to tell you that this was the Grand the great learning of
my life as much as if my mother was a comma different from what she was she wouldn't be now Exactly exactly it's a perfect fit it's a beauty because you see that things have a logic have a sense It's hard for us to understand the wonderful teacher Lucelena, right? We'll be together on the 28th in São Paulo. you pay attention to the signs that Just like you when you tell her that you recommend her videos to your patients, I always put them in. I put them in at the time, I put them in as a
recipe, don't guess everything, exercise, drink water, medicine, as some were in need of magnetic stimulation Luen, the video Tal comes in as a recipe and she has that video where she talks about how there is no such thing as bad luck, there are consequences when we are not paying attention to life, that we cannot hear what life is asking for, so now I say this, if there is one thing that I I became very attentive to what is the invitation that life is giving me right now at this moment for me to learn because I
learned that nothing is there . before the thought that you are saying something wonderful the understanding that precedes the thought that is consciousness is that it is awakening that is when we look I always say We are not what we think then everyone looks at me like that because so-and-so said I said I don't know about him, but maybe he didn't have the knowledge that we have today and I don't know either, in 1930 maybe I wouldn't say anything about what I say today and But if we think about it, how often do we have
a thought Idiot like you're in the supermarket and someone takes the last box of the product you want and audits you and then you say what kind of person Oh no, they leave and then they take the box and it's like F leaves it as if you influenced it then you say something like this I I'm not that person, it's because you see yourself when you stop and say like that, wait a minute, that's ridiculous. You're here fussing over a stupid little box that's not nutritious that doesn't bring you anything, then you say like that,
man, I'm not that person, are you really thinking? I 'm the one who saw that this type of thing is ridiculous and you know what, it's very interesting when you start this movement several times I find myself laughing alone myself too because if I'm at the gym then someone is wearing pink shorts and my mind starts Wow, whoever comes to the gym with pink shorts then this doesn't happen to me then I say like this, stop being ridiculous like, I have a personal person who is wonderful today, Thales, Thalis doesn't talk bad about anyone, I
think it's wonderful and he just stays like this Come on, come on, I'll talk like this Thales, I can't, I can't help you, I said no, you'll have it He wants to hold me on his lap at this exact moment because when I say I can't, I can't, he said, why didn't you say it before, I'm trying, because you think I'm 20 years old, I'm not, I'm not your age. but I see you as a perfect guy PR I understood because you are I say that I have three rules, right? I think that every night
after I started on my path I ask the universe to give me clarity and wisdom for me be the best human being for myself and for everyone every day clarity and wisdom I have been gaining clarity and wisdom you are almost you are almost the lighthouse and it's funny that I always say that the three things that I have changed a lot in my life Marcel is here you can't not let me Lie is that I don't gossip or I gossip gossip no no but that's gossip speaking well of others is incredible I speak very
well of others I love speaking well of others I try not to complain because it's very difficult I don't complain, but I try very hard not to complain and I don't watch the news, I am, but that's after you have entered into your self-knowledge, you, of course, of course, of course, so I'm one of those people who talk like that, so you saw that I didn't see, I didn't see, but you have to Having an opinion doesn't have any I don't know I don't know why it doesn't have the slightest importance when you discover that
it doesn't have the slightest importance and when you discover that your brain uses its repertoire of information to self-sabotage itself and to self -sabotage self-sabotage and also to authenticate your behaviors, right, so if you spend the whole time watching misfortune, his repertoire has, there's a guy I really like called Michael Singer, he makes a comparison that as if you had an intelligence artificial intelligence inside you, but you are the one who feeds this artificial intelligence, so every time it feeds all the artificial intelligences and then everything you put into it is what it has in
its repertoire . makes you behave She gives you rubbish we have to know how to feed our brain exactly very very selective this is very selective because it's already difficult that's exactly why she chose Marcelo plays S exactly right, look, you had a great chance of me falling in love with you from 20 to 30 I just wanted to know about listening to sax, it was the audio of sax here in Brazil, remember Léo gmel, I would go to any Raul show, but guys, it was all about jazz Mania, I'm going to tell you an
interesting fact about us is a good repertoire Marcelo was going to play at my wedding Swear So you were already there, no you weren't, someone made the recommendation because he played in the band that was going to play at my wedding and then when we met last year, the lead singer of the band told him she was It's the girl whose fiancé died so in reality the universe had already organized the meeting but when it was time to download it I stopped halfway through the download stopped and said like this but it's okay because I
use the internet and then suddenly TR the connection came back and the Internet fell off years later in the time of the universe, right, it's a beautiful unified time and then you rescue yourself with your self-knowledge and your self-esteem again but I say this if Bruna from the past had met Marcelo from the present I hadn't given it, I wouldn't have given it at that time, at that time, you would have been unbearable for him, unbearable, you didn't listen to his music because Sax has something that you have to stop and listen to, he doesn't
admit that it's just another lost sound, he's almost a meditation, you you have to focus on him, it's one of the things you focus on the most, it's Sax because he seduces you in such a way that it's voluntary mindfulness If you were back then you would say This guy is boring this song is boring I don't have time for losing with this and it wouldn't work 100%, I think time is the time of the universe, right, a psychiatrist is a being, no, I think I think it's years of career, I have a very intimate
expression here that I say that I am that I am they look at me like that for the first time, people, I'm [ __ ] old from divorce Oh yes, no, and this story is a lot, I learned from people, there were many consultations, there were many, and for example, you're here today, when before you arrived, they they are proof I was separating the books that I was going to give you I said give me a mind Manias then get the consumerist ones that I also want and I'm going to have to give them eh
because in some way she gives me a person who has already been in great need of control That's right, I said it This word was there F but I don't know what I said and when you started the speech I said, don't give it to me, I said her photo, I don't remember it, and this week two red-haired people came and I said Could it be that I'm confusing one She asked PR to see the photo of no but before she saw the photo before seeing the photo She said to me bring me the one
to consume has some energy of control already cou She said because here was what you did before here I I'm talking exactly about having it, right? Buying is absolutely necessary , but having the freedom to buy without being manipulated is revolutionizing . you are exact you have the freedom for example you want to see something if the person is going to sell me something if they start what I said then it is triggering my triggers But I know everyone I say this, do me a favor I am really annoying when the person Stay, I say
this , you 're going to keep me away from here. If you keep quiet, I'll make it . You want to manipulate me, I'm going to take abuse from you, then the person doesn't say that, she's serious, she's serious because I already know, I can't do it for you, oh there was one time she said it but it was like that, the place was packed and he It was said you deserve this but people Ah, when he spoke, but she said it like that, I deserve it, who knows what I deserve? It's me, she said
it like that, Serena, but everything was silent because it made everyone stop and think, I said, don't say that, no, you don't need it, it's necessary, I said you. You have no idea what a need is, I don't need anything, much less you trying to make up my mind, don't do that, my brain is starting to think you're a key, coming with Champagne Zinha, right, and I said I'm not going to drink because I don't want to, I'm going to drink and I I have this freedom Look, it's just that things have become silent, silence
because when I speak too softly it's dangerous with an important person, you know, with an important person, they listen , you know, they can when I speak too softly, look like this, I said people, when I speak to the Bossa Nova rhythm, be careful, be careful. Be careful with this thing where we live in this world of consumption, we are just becoming people who are consumers and hoarders because we need very little to be happy. I say that, I say that this movement in my life is very interesting if I compare it to Bruna today
with Bruna from CCO, if years ago I earned infinitely better, I was living in Europe but you weren't happy, wow, I'm so much happier today, so much happier, you did well Marcelo You bet on the future on the stock market, he waited, he waited the actions Wow, that's it, the happier you are, I was like this in this place where I was meditative, I went to stay in the little house, I was sitting on the log like this with the sunlight beating down, I said man, it's amazing how much we need little is like we
need little like they told us a wrong story that was totally wrong and we bought the story but come on science of personality yes that is the science of knowledge of each personality is that she has a very generous look at what makes us who we are and I say that one of the interesting things about knowing your personality is different, I play a lot about the sign, right, because it's true, I make this joke because I do it like this I don't love astrology, nothing against it , but I'm joking, I wrote a text
when I was in England, because there it's much less used, right? your self-knowledge, right, it was the science of personality versus this, this search for understanding via a sign that the other understands you or brings you the map of and I always say it like that, it's funny because you get the person, they say it like that , then I don't know, I'm a Virgo but I'm not that organized, you say it like that, it's because you're not a virgin, right? There's something about your personality and I think that when you understand what I'm talking
about, personality helps you understand what's going to be easy and what's going to be difficult. for you to do it doesn't mean that you can't change and it's clear that essentially changing your Person is very difficult but you can understand which strategy is most eloquent for who you are and how much you are willing to change in the name of being a better human being, exactly, this is what makes change possible and what I think is one of the things that caught my attention the most in the science of personality, so quickly, I'm not going
to dwell on this, but there are five major traits, right? Neuroticism, which talks about negative emotions, agreeableness, which in Portuguese they call amiability, right, amiability, which is how much you are focused on others or inward, is extroversion, introversion, which has nothing to do with shyness, shyness is neuroticism, don't confuse it, conscientiousness, which is the trait of discipline and the fulfillment of what you set out to do and the order and openness of the experience that is the TR are you open to new experiences this new experience how open to new experiences are you or how
much you are a person who likes the same things too much and the I think it's beautiful when I understand the decency of personality that there is no right, wrong, there are no people who are more right or more wrong in everything, they have their good side and their bad side, but what happens a lot is that you get leaders, mainly leaders in the communication department or people, you, I don't know, big people on Instagram When you look at a general analysis of their personality, they are usually highly conscientious people, in other words, naturally disciplined,
very open to experience. In other words, people who can absorb a large amount of information and with medium low ism, because none doesn't exist, right? It's not safe and then what happens for these people is that you say wake up at 5 in the morning make your bed get up and go run it's real because for them it's easy to do this because their personality allows it, it shapes it, it's within discipline for them it's delicious exactly But you get the vast majority of the population who won't have this degree of conscientiousness because there are
few people who will, right ? we are different You know I am this is easier for me and for another person for example I am I am very conscientious uhum eh and conscientious people have a very correct perception of time so I am a very punctual person I am very punctual and Before I knew the science of personality, I thought it was disrespectful, people who were not punctual, I said, Wow, this person can't organize themselves to arrive on time, I also said that, how absurd, right, what a disrespectful thing, and when I understood the science
of personality, I I understand that she counts time differently for her, she thinks it will be enough, she's not doing it because she's against you, it's because people's perception of time is actually less conscientious, it's bad, in general, hyperactive people are, and then exactly what you fal won't arrive on time can't miss flight miss I always said man how do you miss a flight I didn't understand And then I started So I think the cool thing about personality science is that it shows people a lot of what's going on be easy for you and what
will not be easy for you so that you don't follow what is difficult because it is already difficult to change if you are going to change versus not knowing that you are taking a step in something that is more difficult because any little step that you give, you celebrate because that's not common and that's how I say it like this, for example, you're a very kind person, not very conscientious, you're not going to do bodybuilding, bodybuilding is not for you, you're very extroverted, that's because then you 're going to find a booty, you won't be
able to have the discipline to If you put it, you have so many options , right, many, Bruna, that's what you're talking about now, it's such a brilliant idea that we always work on this when we put the criteria there, right, like Ana put it there, look, you need to go watch Lucia Helena and so on. We also include exercise, but we stop and see how little we've already gotten to know that person, their personality, weight training wasn't made for everyone, there's a guy who's happy there, but the other goes through that suffering, but he
likes it. tennis and in tennis he will be able to have a good performance, go to Dana, but there are several paths, there are several paths And then, you know, from time to time we have some criticism Ah, you're doing this type of exercise now, it's quick. what I can do and it's doing me a lot of good, stop it because people live in this herd effect, don't judge, you know, and everything has to be the same, for example, you're very open to experience and you want to stay dripping from one exercise to another Wonderful
problem none great Exactly exactly follow your heart a good thing that happens in my day I live in a place where I have the privilege of going down safely and taking a walk sometimes 9:30 at night I'm there, you know In that silence, when I'm walking inside the park, there's a sense of security, of course, you know, and that makes me feel so much better than going to a gym and in the morning I do my other exercises, you know, and then we live in this world and that's it. okay, okay, yeah, but that's it,
it's about using these tools to be happier, no less, I say, I think it's absurd, because everyone is looking for happiness, right, it's a verb, which is behavior, which is behavior, which is every day, how come? you want to reach happiness Living in small misfortunes if Going to the gym is difficult, going to work is difficult, eating right, it's difficult, you 'll never be happy, right? You need to find ways to do these things that will lead to a happier life, well, it's interesting, right? of you taking what the universe gave you and making it
better for you and being an added factor for others and then everything is fine because there is no friction You walk the things you said, people started to come when you are in this process It's not magic because this isn't magic this is the mathematics of happiness if you're on your own path Uhum you're going to pick your flowers don't worry about it there's one thing we live in the airport a lot, right Me and Ana and sometimes we pass by some behaviors that one looks at the other like, you know, the couple is there,
you can already see it in their behavior, you know, they're closed, they don't communicate and after a while in the dialogue you only hear that, you're toxic And then I stopped These days I was, I wasn't even with Ana, I stopped and thought, my God, how am I in a relationship where I already declare to the other person that he is toxic? Why am I in this? that I know how to deal with this toxic person Exactly, that's incredible And that's how I am, but I'm looking for my happiness, seeing this hell and the worst
part is, but I'm looking for it in the wrong place, in the wrong place, it's there in the darkness exactly wrong Bru let's go to our our reporter pipinho let's go this moment here Bruna we have a community called sustainable human being sustain and it's a community for everyone it's laypeople for laypeople who want knowledge who are like you who want knowledge to pass on and then we always, just before our guest comes, we present the guest's media outlets and ask them not to follow so that, you know, it becomes a bit anonymous and there
they take some of this content so all that is here are things that you say in your daily life I saw that they understood, let's see if you can Look, it has happened that someone has asked a question that I said, I think he got it wrong, everything, but that's okay, but in principle, they are questions specific to what they want to have . a suddenly a little greater understanding than at that moment when you said yes we can first What are some common triggers that can cause negative behaviors and how can I identify them
in myself so let's go, it's important to talk about triggers are not necessarily Manichaeans, right? Triggers, they are not necessarily good or bad, how did you teach your brain to deal with this trigger, which will be what will lead it to behave, so I always make a joke that was made, right? That is the training you gave for your brain on how to deal with that trigger So let's go if I'm a person who faces boredom with something I don't like and I taught my brain every time it was bored to look for food to
look for dopamine huh na na food and form of food in the form of food to each their own so until I understand that I taught my brain to look for alternatives when I'm bored, boredom will be a trigger for self-sabotaging behavior if I want to stop eating what is the mistake that people usually make a lot when it comes to behavior, you want to stop a behavior, behavior and behavior are symptoms, they are not causes, so I always joke like this, you want to know, for example, why you behave, why you do something that
you want to stop. to do so let's use this example let's say I drink soda and I want to stop drinking soda so I'm there during my day I go to the fridge several times I get a little soda I keep it and I want to stop this behavior instead of stop drinking soda because then you will need an executive force of willpower, discipline, rigidity , right, keep reminding yourself all the time that it is very difficult because it is already automatic, do a technique that I call undocking, take the soda out of where it
is It's always a normal day in your life because when you get up and go to the fridge to open the soda, there's no talk there Oops, brake, I wasn't supposed to, I'm drinking soda, I came here to get the soda, soda, right? And then you have that little space to talk about where I was, what I was doing, what was happening when I came here, before I got up to I came to get the soda and you do it every two days so you don't get closer because your dog is closer, right? If you
do it quickly , he'll know where he is, he's smart. and do this, you will realize that you are escaping the boredom that every time you have a tedious activity. He's there because what you need to say is that you're giving that fraction of that PR to get out of automatic mode and say like wait, what am I doing this for? I don't need the Rosa shots, right? who is drinking ISO soda And then you have to look and talk like this Alright, so how can I deal with my boredom in a better way and
the other thing I wanted to talk about within this same question is that brains behave to get out of bad and going for the good that for the brain is guaranteed threatened survival, which is pleasure, right, which is emotions, so I always say that the brain's communication with you takes place through a mechanism called emotions, how it tells you that it's bad, bad emotion, like He tells you that emotion is good for him, so every time you have a bad emotion your brain will urge behavior and as they are emotions they are very frequent, right,
even Ana puts it in the book of happiness that our brains ask for much more attention to bad emotions , so we live much more in bad emotions, the brain's strategies are normally focused on getting rid of bad emotions and then they become habits very quickly because they are solutions that it found that work, right, so if I have a bad emotion, sadness, anxiety and I use cigarettes to reduce my anxiety, fantastic strategy, wait, I have something that I light, I put it in my mouth and it reduces this bad emotion, it brings me good,
this here is incredible, bro, let's do this here, let's repeat it Let's repeat it Let's repeat so it becomes a quick habit so for you, normally our triggers that lead us to self-sabotaging behaviors are negative emotions So uhum we need to learn to become literate in our negative emotions which I say identify them Totally I say this a lot because So, imagine that you are having anguish, frustration, but because you don't have emotional literacy, you think it's anger, I loved it , emotional literacy, you think it's anger, because your whole life has all been bad
emotions. You were angry and you responded with irritation. of patience and then you will use your usual resource to deal with anger but it's not anger it's frustration So it won't solve it and then you keep using it again and again again but you don't sit in the emotion and say Wait a minute I'm feeling it because there are personalities that are much more likely to react to having anger as a symptom , right? you are very kind And you have high neuroticism in anger You are that spiteful person who holds a grudge because you
make people wait but stay there, what a lazy person, right? Exactly exactly for Bru, can you explain to us what eating with mindfulness is and how this practice can help you have a healthier relationship with food, mindfulness is certainly a very interesting mechanism for you to have a healthier relationship with yourself in general, right? I'm going to give you a super quick explanation so I won't go on and on. in this, but the brain has two large networks, right, the default network is the defold Network and the exec network the default network when it is
the self-reference network from the inside to the inside and the executive network is the network from the outside of the Senses, so the network From the outside is the focus network of attention because our focus of attention is always outside or it can even be inside of breathing but needs the Senses when the default network is dysfunctional, sorry when it is healthy it is the network of creativity of Inspiration of good thoughts, right of good emotions when it is dysfunctional it is the network of depression of rumination of anxiety and what happens brain It spends
the whole time going back and forth between networks, one Turns off the other, right, in quotation marks, we Simplify, so I'm on one, I'm not on the other I'm on one, I'm not on the other when the default network starts to become dysfunctional, how the brain works too much attention on bad things he turns his attention disproportionately to this network that is dysfunctional and takes the executive away from full tension so one of the solutions you have to start getting out of this dysfunctionality that you created in this movement of anxiety rumination Hi focus on
this is you work on mindfulness if, for example, the main focus of your anxiety today is food, one of the great vehicles for you to work on mindfulness and it is wonderful to work on mindfulness on your diet is to be present when you are eating, so what's cool is I always say that, for example, meditating is not stopping thinking , I want to strangle the person who created this, there is no such thing as thinking, the person is dead, if that happens, they are dead, you did it, you died, you died and came back,
meditating is you intentionally putting your brain to do this movement went to standard network back PR executive PR went back exec [Music] when you have your normal life and you for ISO that meditation works so much when you have your normal life and you start to ruminate in anxiety you have tools to get out one [Music] for a healthy relationship and then I start with a phrase from Murilo Gan which is first do yours, right? Maturity has to be in you to recognize if there is an ex in the other, people can't do it, you
know one time I was having dinner with a friend of mine and he was saying no because I don't find any good partner because people are terrible Because I only meet difficult people everything goes wrong so I said friend do this, take a piece of paper make a list who the person is you need to be assertive You know what you want, you know, queer people just find what they're looking for, make a list of what you want, then read that list and say what am I from that list because you agree with me that
ISO will only attract a person who is that. that you are looking for because she is also looking for more or less the same thing as you if you are if you are a person and I always say that this is how you want to start off well with an AL and the relationship starts with self-love self-love self-esteem people with a lot of self-love with balanced self-esteem they don't find rubbish people period because the minute that person falls apart because if you find someone who doesn't have it, they're not balanced, they're not emotionally mature when
you're straight away you fall apart right away it's very very interesting when you're sitting down seeing in your power of self-knowledge, self-esteem and self-love when you find someone who doesn't fit in is glaring if for you it's not being glaring you don't love yourself enough It's certainly when you see it that's perfect so I would tell you to start with you eat start with you Of course, next time Bru, I suffer from constant anxiety that interferes with my daily life , what techniques can I use to manage and reduce this, I think so . What
is the level of this anxiety, how much dysfunctionality does it bring to know if it is possible because she already wants the solution, we have to understand when we arrive, we are always wanting in the search for a solution, if we are in doubt, go to meditation, I think that this way, self-knowledge has something that It works a lot for anxiety and often those who are anxious say I can't, I can't meditate, I can't meditate and I think you're going to meditate in the first meditation and I tell you that you need it, you're the
one who needs it most and it's not to stop thinking and I say that many Sometimes like this, resort to techniques, I say that everything you think is what we discussed here, what meditation means is you are in the executive network, so anything you do with presence is good for meditating if Do you like to paint if you like to crochet if you like to count tiles wash the dishes my love if you are present washing the dishes listen to music listening to music all of this is exercising otherwise we are going back to that
subject we talked about oh for one it is gym exactly a technique It could be that for one that physical exercise can be a reduction of anxiety for another it can increase even more anxiety is if you are there if you are there at ESA hating every minute you are releasing cortisol there is no painting or relaxing the I had to do some crochet in the countryside and I saw a man sitting like that, you know, those little houses like that, walking along the roads of Barro, a man doing incredible crochet and I stopped that
and it felt so good to look at that for several things, this human being Exactly I said that, it's taking away anxiety Zinha, that's how we only have two systems, right people, the sympathetic and parasympathetic, which is activation, alertness and rest and growth, if you're not in one, you're necessarily in the other, there's no fear of nature was very wise In this sense because it helps a lot there is another V so if you are hating What are you doing You are releasing cortisol and cortisol will hurt you it will make you more anxious because
that is the alert that your brain uses to know It's bad, it's safe now you're talking about crochet Leando Rasson crochets when it's too much It's true he said ISS He's even doing the little things PR granddaughter who's going to be incredible, no, but you know, I thought it was so beautiful, so beautiful, so liberating for a city, I'm going to buy some needles, but I think you could do it, I'm going to do it, I'm going to make several for you scarf for you, I don't know, I want it, but I'm like this Stop
labeling yourself, labeling yourself is really bad because you end up giving it to your brain there is an there is an American doctor who is Dr emet he has a book called your brain is always listening to you your brain is always listening And he says this don't label yourself Because from the moment you speak I suffer from anxiety you you will never understand and there is an interesting thing that anxiety is fear So the first question to deal with are you afraid of qu Uhum And that's one of two things of the of the
of the of the of the fun two that I said, why doesn't anxiety go together with fear, they are cousins and sisters, they are cousins, technical sisters, I think it is something generic that is for the collective, but within the techniques we have to discover what truly is self-knowledge, self-love, but if you want to start, meditation will help a lot and I can talk if you ask this question that the doctor said are you afraid of that because some people talk like that but I'm not afraid I said like that no I have anxiety I
'm not afraid love it's the same thing I'll explain to you what the principle is of CBT, right, it works a lot, for example, look for a CBT if you suddenly understand this because otherwise you will be dependent on someone to tell you what to do and then you will be in slavery You will never be free, never close Bru I have difficulty starting and completing tasks because I am always procrastinating What can I do to combat this habit, this is a common problem, right in today's world, it's impressive how people are suffering from procrastination
again, people, excess of action, excess of excess, this is something that contributes a lot, right, because when there's a lot going on, you You can't start and finish anything, right? Because you focus your attention, which means being able to say no to everything except what you want to do, right? So your brain needs to have this capacity, unfortunately, people, the brain only has this capacity when you've trained your brain to have this capacity, so what we often have are brains that are untrained in focus and attention, which is this ability to stay in the executive
network, which is unfortunately metabolically more expensive, right ? more energy to function So you need it is much easier for your brain to stay in the default network there from the anxiety of rumination it loves it loves staying in the past and in the future it loves it as long as you are not taking any action because action is what uses energy to think He thinks it's wonderful that you can think as much as you want, so that's what It's a bit of procrastination, this deregulation of this brain that spends much more time thinking than
doing and when you do it, you reduce the thought circuits, there's no way around it, and whether we like it or not, people, it's training, so unfortunately, the more you leave your tasks become more difficult, so what I would tell you starts with the easy one, so if you have difficulty procrastinating, for example when studying, don't study, don't insist on studying because that's what's beautiful about the brain, you can also teach it indirectly, mind you you don't need to go to the specific neural network What do you need to teach your brain to start and
finish tasks So think of something you like go make a cheese bread from start to finish get a recipe make it from start to finish make something that you like from beginning to end with consistency train your brain to do things from beginning to end that you like and then little things to big ones little by little you will see that it becomes easier to start and finish what you don't like and the other thing is again become emotionally literate Because the more you know which bad emotion is governing why you are procrastinating normally we
procrastinate when we think we are not good enough that we won't realize it is better not to even try to do it They say that we are perfectionists and say no, if I'm not perfect, I'm not even going to start doing it, so these concepts, these beliefs that feed these negative emotions when you're sitting there trying to start and finish something are where you should go start slowly and people like that don't keep poking the jaguar too much with a short stick, right? Go slowly, you've noticed a belief that doesn't look at it with acceptance,
speak, Wow, beauty, I understand, it works like this, let it go slowly and slowly and always, the consistency is much better than at once people close consistency Bru I realize that many times I myself hinder my progress this is very common how can I identify and overcome self-sabotage only self-knowledge that's when self-knowledge arrives again it's like that again behaviors are not random they are not random so behavior it It's always part of a trigger, your brain will say something like this , wait, the last time we had this trigger, what did we do that worked
to bring me the good, which is normally dopamine, right, which is pleasure, so what's it like? that I got out of the bad and came back to the good in this situation Oh I did that he will resort to that you call it self-sabotage because it's a behavior that you wouldn't want to have your brain calls it a Habit it's true it's true it's a habit not understood it's and It's not equated, it's out of your control because, well, if you think about our brain in evolution, right, our brain still lives in the tribe of
hunters and gatherers, when we as Hunters and gatherers were able to do behaviors that harm us, they didn't exist. behaviors that would harm us, so the brain cannot understand that you, as its human being, will voluntarily do something to you that could kill you or hurt you or do something like that, so it has not developed a mechanism for understanding behaviors that cause me harm. bad behaviors that are good for me he does he has the understanding that this behavior solves my problem it solves it is great the less energy this behavior uses so wonderful
then you still it is an energy collector so for example solving anxiety with chocolate your brain I think incredible M he says ISO here is wonderful I can't sleep I take that wonderful medicine I say for example people say that to me then I have no discipline I have no discipline at all he said he wants to see how disciplined you are start eating the chocolate 4 da Two days late, you're not calling iFood if there's no chocolate available, going to the convenience store, getting in the car, going is discipline Hey, you have a goal
and you're doing everything you can to achieve that goal, okay, it's the chocolate, but you can pivot On the other hand, this exists within you, you're just putting it into behavior that you don't I really like wrong behavior weight that looks at the weight you are putting on, right? This demand that you have with yourself, this rigidity, it comes from your construction of what is good, so you start questioning with the quality of questions What are these thresholds that brought you to this demand? This is what will make you a good human being because again,
we teach our brain. So this brain is using rigidity and control as a way of giving you the good in it, right, taking you out of the bad, putting you in good at security So you tell them I'm insecure he says control which is the same principle as jealousy right he says like this oh so this person is making me insecure so control this person because the brain understands that control that control and rigidity is the answer to you keep returning security because when the context is scary when I can't manipulate the context the brain
thinks that when I can't manipulate the context so that it is exactly what I predicted it would be it's bad it's bad because I don't know if I I can help you survive, so little by little you have to teach your brain that this place of demand that it has put in control is useless, it's not helping you, it's hindering you, but it's helping you to accept it, right? And you have to accept it, we have no control over it. almost nothing but it's very difficult Thank God, have you ever thought if we had to
control the stars, I don't know, everything is going on , everything is wonderful, we are upside down, we don't even notice, I say, I say, my screenwriter is so much more creative than that I, she is so much better than me that every time I try to do it and she does it for me I say It was good, it was good Wow, much better than I would do, exactly, even more in the vital functions, right, you've already done it, let it, don't get in the way because it It's really good, it's really good B
controlling his heartbeat Cacos digestion training so let him do something like that now he does what he needs help and kindness people like that have difficulty understanding it's a construction you don't wake up one day kind but I can tell you something that helps you a lot to understand what the kindness inside you is, start praising people randomly, see how you feel when that person thanks you but it's a real compliment. Release this, it releases dopamine, we have to discover the new PR seratonin also even oxytocin so like this and see how you feel this
is kindness this is the feeling of kindness kindness gives you high and starts to encourage things that make you feel this way inside you and it gradually increases little by little, finally you It will be polite, it will exactly, emotional education will be close, Bru, you're feeling extremely tired and unmotivated at work, how can I know if you're going through Burnout? they are exhaustions of a structural functioning What time they need help or they need a lot of help but what would I tell you that it is important for us to look I see two
people when they look at the banal including in my case, right the person that gives power to the outside and the person who gives power to the inside when you look at the banal says like this oh because my boss is toxic my environment is terrible I'm not saying it 's not okay maybe it is too and it's very common and but you don't look go inside and talk about how I'm dealing with this, how much I'm empowering myself because if you don't empower yourself to live in this place, this place will swallow you or
Even if you empower yourself to leave this place, you'll have to empower yourself. and again, right, that place where you go takes you, for sure, paraphrasing Murilo GR, where you go, you take you, so there's no point in leaving that job and looking for another job if you're not prepared, exactly, it's toxic for you, for sure, for sure, oh I'm the case alive exactly so you have a place you have a place literally speaking that human being from Bal went to India went to Olanda came back So that's it in India I was already there,
right, you were finding everything bad, everything Brazil was unbearable and you know what I have very seriously of all these moments very few memories because oo BN, it shrinks the hippocampus, right, your ability to record memories, cortisol, you're there losing cells, even though I have no memories, I have vague memories of my time as an Indian, I have vague memories of my father's illness, which is interesting, but it's already a sign. These flaws are very close to me BR. I often have difficulty understanding what I'm feeling. How can I improve my ability to recognize and
deal with my emotions? Brown, who is a person I really like, who is called Atlas of the Heart, I think she calls it that, I don't know what she calls it in Brazil, right, Atlas of the Heart, in English, she passes emotion by emotion, which is each one And she, as she is one very serious researcher and consulted a lot of people the thing there is well done it's well done so educate yourself educate yourself and start to question yourself because that's not the case there's no such thing as all anger it's not all anger
I think anger is closely linked to frustration uhum people who can't get frustrated with failure Perfectionism exactly then and appears as anger there, but it's not the feeling, it's not the primary emotion that generated it, it's and so, people, unfortunately, again, our brain pays much more attention and Negative emotions because they they signaled threats to our survival and it's a matter of survival exactly. So if you start to educate yourself emotionally, start with negative emotions, you know, start to understand what you're feeling there so you can know what you're looking for because otherwise you'll stay
in the dark all the time. fleeting pleasure of dopamine compensatory satisfaction, man, when you can understand, for example , that you are sad and that everything is ok, you are sad, you are not going to die, that's why you are not going to die, and there is beauty in sadness when you begin to understand that. you start resorting to things that give seratonin, give toxins, you love to truly embrace yourself, those bought, not the ones bought ex Exactly because there are many, right, for sale, many, many, more and more, more and more and there will
be more and more each time closer Bru, sometimes I feel like my brain sabotages me Because it's so difficult to be constant, does this have to do with the digital world we live in or is it a characteristic of human beings? I always say this, do you want to see what this is like? brain like this, look at an athlete that the athlete has different from you, you are the same human being, right, let's agree that the raw material is exactly the same, the molecules, the molecules, Biology, everything is there the same, right, what with
an athlete, you have that you don't have. he insisted a lot more he trained to stay in bad times in difficult times in failure he had consistency in failure so this is a guy who every day he failed said I'll go again I'll go again I'll go again until I get it right until I get it right and not from a place of hardness right Instead of this here is my purpose I'm going to do this here again and again and again because I want this for myself until I realize this for me has value
it's important I want to be that person who can do this and we what are we, the person who, when it got difficult, stopped in general, right, in general , Di gave up so that even we could take it as a challenge, right? a lifetime of giving up when it got difficult, Professor Cloves, he has a line that I find very, very interesting, he talks about his brother, he says that when you're faced with a difficult text and you give up on him, he beat you, right? someone who went and wrote that difficult text you
just have to read and understand it harder now The hardest thing he says like this Pythagoras developed exactly the theory You just have to apply it so when we give up at that moment again again again again Really This is a brain that doesn't know how to finish, no frustration came out of it get out, he gives up he gives up this one in him he goes to seek immediate pleasure exactly And then it's very difficult for you to take the reins of this brain that is in that place bad emotion immediate pleasure bad emotion
immediate pleasure bad tion immediate pleasure and immediate dopamine and not that in the medium long term, which are where happiness lives when you no longer need Dopamin Peaks iOS for you to go out, right? than I was because I don't need the alcohol party anymore, I don't need it, my life is so good on Monday at 9 in the morning, it's great, right ? by ISO I'm always happy I'm always happy I don't need anything people early in the morning I think this week you're going to rock re I said there will be Oh there
will be a week I don't know I didn't think I'm in a smaller place, a bit lonely, right Ana, just I go, I only go to places like this if it's with very dear people and also that thing, I come and go whenever I want. That's it, you don't need anything else for anyone, nothing, I go for the people, I don't go for good music, but with nice people I don't leave the house anymore to do anything other than that uh not that uh I don't need it if you're looking for it I would tell
you if you're looking for Constância again go look for Constância in something that's simple for you start training your brain in whatever is easy you won't get with Constância exactly in the diet which for you is a sacrifice in Physical exercise which for you is a sacrifice despite everyone saying that you need it This doesn't start with that's why it starts with a nice book Be Constant in a delightful book, right? Next along this neural path you'll open up, pruning new paths slowly, you won't pass a tractor along the cerebral path, you'll take down a
little tree here, go this way, b it's a book of a height that you like from the beginning to the end when you finish you'll say like this oh It was constant it was exactly it was I kept myself Alin exactly there go on to the next one oh I did it I tell people start 10 minutes a day of something 10 minutes it's good for you exactly 10 minutes it's like If you had to have time for yourself, it's a gift you give yourself, right, 10 minutes we can get a pill of Alto Amor,
that would be perfect, next Bru, we arrived at a very special moment, it's the moment of our mascot, Ana Beatriz's son, who is a happy brain called pipinho he just has one problem, right? He's Cotó, his legs are very small, but he's always happy, he just likes good content And then he prepares a little game, pingpong, he listened to our entire chat And then on top of that words and things that were said he puts together plays them for his mother now and his mother gives voice to him who plays them for you and whatever
comes to mind in your head doesn't need to constitute something big it's what the word wakes you up plays if not I saw nothing passes that he is polite he will talk nice there is no problem Come on, please one love affection self-care self- compassion two no affection self-care self-compassion and try that there is one incredible thing in the world is to feel true gratitude, exactly that is not education in this thing gratitude feel feel three Challenge start over four if you could get into a time machine which moment would you choose to visit past
or future Wow funny today I don't have any regrets in my life I think I would go to Bruna do Futuro to be able to look at that moment that I have sitting there on the edge of the sea with many years, if God allows me and to speak, I did all the [ __ ] I'm leaving a legacy , one day, I'm going to look here, a human being passed by with these pranks, I contributed to humanity, it's better, perfect, perfect, perfect than May God inspire us all, right, to have this moment five Complete
the sentence self-knowledge is to sit on yourself and not leave when it gets bad riding on yourself is Uhum it's like not giving up when it gets bad because it's going to get bad It's going to get bad a lot of times and that's okay a lot is and five is 10 people Adi C 10 in self-knowledge C is 10 c is 10 six happiness emotional stability within you not needing distractions seven Complete the sentence my purpose in life is to make humanity a little better place than I found it in my own way. Moon
was going to say this girl, I'm going to give her a diploma, hurry up, girl is going to become a philosopher, we all are, we all are, we haven't woken up yet, it's al eight If you could choose a skill, a superpower , what would it be and why? Their question is if you had a Super Power for 24 hours Which Super Power would you choose then I said I said people I wanted to have the Super Power that all the people who woke up and are in this movement of trying to make humanity a
better place would be golden and all the others would be paralyzed and we would gain telepathy and talk like this, look in the mirror now if you're Dorado, go down to the street because we need to get to know each other and for 24 hours people could get to know each other and talk like this okay, I know who you are now I know who you are because when we pass by, we get in touch and make a common plan because I say that one of the difficulties we usually have is finding other people who
are on the same path as you that he is in the beginning. a little lonely, right, until you find your Masters, your peers, right, it's a bit of a Lonely walk because humanity is very lost in this place, you know, even in the Matrix So I think that this Matrix, even if it's literal, is perfect. eh eh no one had said that but that's exactly it, right? That was really funny because when I wrote this on GPT I ran out and said love, look at the super power that I just thought I wanted, but it's
a big super You're not really crazy, but I understand perfectly Funny that I think this gives hope, right? I don't know if it's Gold But any color that we identify in the process, right? person is Golden is Golden is a being Golden is very delicious oh eight if you Oh no, we already said that nine I miss you ah Gertrudes Maria Gertrudes Maria my dog who died a month ago oh my God she is old how old she was at 14 m It was at the time but it was with you that the passage was
we had to euthanize her, I don't think so and it was in her time she had an incredible life getrudes Maria caused Maria I loved it caused on the ride and finally a thought a phrase could be yours it could be from someone, feel free, I'm going to say two things, the first thing I'm going to insist on is we can't fix what we don't know how it works, so if you want to fix something about yourself, know yourself, know it and you don't take your little friend's and the second is one Jung's phrase is
Who looks outside dreams Who looks inside wakes up wakes up right wakes up perfect so let's all wake up because ours is our mission right Some will fulfill others not my love I loved it I'm with you we'll close here it was wonderful but calm down Now the gifts begin, look, consumerist minds, they'll talk about all the marketing and question that we can throw this elsewhere, happiness, I'm reading, okay, restless minds, give this to Marcelo, minds and quirks, she'll leave here with the collection, she leaves with depressed minds and here overcoming TDH with the neuro
feedback technique, which is your specialty, which is, but it's not over, these here for the side, now for the side, here is an eco-bag of my son's pipinho, ecological and here we are giving you a notebook so you can write all your projects for next year that will all come true, I'm sure there's still a mug here so you can have a coffee, a tea and remember us in your projects, okay? fix all this for you, go look at this camera here, you don't need to look at us anymore, you can be rude, give all
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