Michael B. Jordan EXCLUSIVE: “You’re Ignoring Your Intuition! — That’s Why You Feel So Lost”

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healthier and more healed I appreciate your ears I appreciate your eyes I'm so grateful that you're here right now and I thank you for investing in yourself you know that this platform is all about allowing the humans to be human to give them a space to share their heart share their mind and share what's really happening behind the scenes I think it's so easy in the climate we live in to get lost in clickbait and articles and Views and often that stops us from actually getting to understand someone and see someone for who they are

and today's guest is someone that I've been wanting on the show for years so I'm extremely happy and extremely present even more than ever because this has been an opportunity I've been looking forward to today I'm talking to the one and only Michael B Jordan a director actor producer who's recognized as an industry leader invested in bringing social change to Hollywood through his art and philanthropy making his feature film directorial debut Michael B Jordan recently reprised the role of Adonis Creed in Creed 3 I'm a big Rocky fan so when Creed dropped you knew I

had to see it uh which had the biggest opening weekend for a Creed film and biggest domestic opening for a sports movie ever ever of all time I just need to clarify that up next Michael B Jordan is set to start in Ryan Cougar's next feature film for Warner Brothers and Michael B Jordan also was named one of times's 100 most influential people of 2023 he's been recognized as people's 2026 sexiest man alive my team went on about this and one of the New York Times 25 greatest actors of the 21st century and now he's

got a new health drink out you know I'm a big fan of health and wellness it's called Moss the first of its kind SE Moss beverage available Nationwide as you're listening and watching today welcome to the show Michael B Jordan Mike it's great to have you here man J appreciate it man that introduction is great I just need just carry you around with me everywhere I go and just introduce me places uh but no I appreciate it thanks for having me well well I wanted to add also like in the few moments we've spent together

even just walking in you know if I can add to that intro you know extremely humble gracious kind like thoughtful like it's it's also nice meeting that and I and I love that this platform is a space that can come out and we were just talking about that you were saying that y you know you've almost been looking for a space where you can share that because you don't do a lot of press I don't I don't I you know it's seasons for it you know obviously you know when you have a project coming out

or something you need to promote you know there it's a part of that that news cycle but for me personally I I I try to you know kind of say to myself a little bit and and and um very cautious of how how you want people to get to know you you know when you have opportunities to speak and and share things about yourself um and not kind of you know be a part of sometimes other people's agenda you know so so that's uh but but but been a big big fan of yours for for

a long time and the work that you've done and and you are currently doing and um and felt like this was a good good time to you know to get out and talk and and uh you know share some things with about me I guess you know I've uh it's been it's been a journey you know it's been it's been a journey so uh you know this a nice little check-in point I think yeah I love that well I appreciate the trust and I love that checking point because it must be fascinating to look back

at something and then think about where you were in life what was going on in your mind so I wanted to start with there was this one thing you said in an interview and we were talking about this earlier this idea of written versus being able to explain correct and there was this great point you made that I think people wouldn't recognize with the amount of success you've had had the hits you've had you know I think people want to know about you and learn about you but you said when you come from where I

come from and everybody doesn't get those breaks that luck you start to question why am I successful in life why did I go this way and everybody went that way and I just thought that that was you know again extremely humble and also representative of where you grew up how you came up like which way did everyone go and where did that luck begin for you I think coming up in in in Nork New Jersey coming up in that environment and you know having you know when you're younger you know you're living life you know

you're you're taking it at day at a time you know you're going to basketball practice you're going to school you know you're going to church you know you're uh for me it was you know taking a lot of trips to New York City going on auditions at a really really young age and just figuring out what what what that is having having parents pretty aware you know um and and very present in my life you know growing up uh you know that was that was rare amongst my family amongst my friend group you know uh

having both parents that was there and very present and um aware of my environment as well you know what what uh you know being told to look out for these things and uh make good choices to be disciplined to be focused on things you know get your school you know all the the uh you know the the positives in in in growing up in in an environment like that and you know hats off to my parents and to uh to sacrifice so much to make sure their kids you know were safe and and grew up

in you know in you know grw up open in that environment ain't easy making ends of meet you know um grew up very poor but didn't feel like it you know what I'm saying it was very you know think they did a good job at hiding those things you know I think as we get older we look back was like oh man we went through that oh oh that's why we slept in the kitchen at one time with the oven open or oh that's when we stayed at Grandma's house for like you know a couple

weeks when you you know so you you you get that reflection of of how we kind of grew up and and I think for me you know always having a you know a bigger purpose I think or just you know just that optimism you know that that I was a big dreamer as a kid and and I think you know you start to not just to focusing on the just the work of it all but since I was working such a young age that's the thing that I can kind of point to of you know

booking auditions and getting this job and traveling to this place and experiencing these things and coming back home with these experiences and not having a lot of people who could relate or could you know I could soundboard off of and and I think in feeling like that you don't want to alienate those people you know uh and I think and this is all I guess in hindsight you don't share these stories as much you know maybe you should because you don't want somebody to feel like inadequate or you know not being able to have that

experience that you might have had and I think you know that snowballs as you as you get older and from stepping stone to Stepping Stone as as as I continue to be successful at a at a at a young age um you start to question why am I being so successful and the people that look just like me that are right next to me and these everyday things aren't necessarily doing that or not choosing to you know just didn't have those options that were laid out to them uh and I and I think it um

you start to doubt yourself for whatever reason or feel guilty for the things that you may or may not have um even though you know our parents were people of service you know uh block parties or you know cooking Church dinners or you know whenever you know my house was the house that everybody came to at some point whether we were gonna get pizza that night or dad was gonna take everybody camping or going to these thing like it was that was kind of my house within within my neighborhood and community and and um so

I think for me being a person of service kind of Cu you know kind of comes from how I was raised and and and those those are the examples that I knew growing up I always felt lucky too as you become more successful and and you you see less people look like you that are being successful in this in this realm and you end up being the one guy that looks like me that's successful or the couple guys that or The Usual Suspects that you see in the audition room or and things of that nature

you know you start to sometimes question why why why are you now I can I I I feel as though it was my it was my path you know it was my purpose and spirituality and growing up in a in a household that was very focused on you know you know church and spiritual and meditation and and and just being aware of the world that we live in you know I felt I was destined for for something not knowing what that was but just something wow yeah and I mean when I'm when I'm hearing that

it sounds like I love what you said you like you know they they hid we were poor and we didn't even see that but this idea of like you sound so when I when I see you talk about your family and for those of you watching you can see it on Mike's face but there's so much joy and there's Bliss and there's like a there's like a happiness when you're looking back on that time like I can see it's a POS POS experience because of how you feel you've been loved and cared for and supported

even though the resources may not have been there or the access or opportunities and and I was wondering when I was listening to you like is there a memory or an experience from your childhood that you think defines who you are today like was there a a memory or a story that you have in your mind of an experience you went through that you think brings out maybe that service element or brings out that purposeful element and I think this this Bliss and this this this appreci for how I grew up comes in hindsight M

you know like you know the first time you have a moment where you're like pick up the phone you know one morning you just call your mom and be like thank you I get it I I'm and I'm sorry I'm sorry for for being that kid at some point and I'm so sorry for not understanding I totally get what you guys are going through sheesh I love you guys you know like you you have those moments when you get older you know that you just can't really have that perspective when you're when you were a

kid and I think you know I was very mischievous you know as well and and and I think there were moments when my dad disciplined me you know for for for for whatever the you know whatever I did at that time and then my mom would have a conversation me around the why and and then being also forced or pushed and nudged into a space where you had to acknowledge your siblings also you know in that situation and and and the importance of family and what that means you know my parents have different upbringings you

know what I'm saying from you know uh in different family structures growing up but one thing they've always provided us with is just a sense of like family over everything you know and how important that is and that just kind of kept the groundedness to me throughout so I think just the experiences of of just family I like your point about hindsight I've definitely made that call to my mom for sure like yeah yeah I've made that call to we around the same age so for me it's like I made that call and I think

I made it probably like 25 maybe 26 yeah probably around then when I finally made that call and not that I didn't love my mom before that of course I did but it was like that honest understanding of just how hard it was to do what she did CU she was raising two kids she was dropping us to school picking us up she was the bread winner of the family she made us breakfast lunch and dinner freshh every day like and you don't recognize that as a kid you don't realize the sacrifice the hustle the

and and always making you feel loved on top of doing all of that it's hard work you've talked you said that now you feel like you've got to a place that it's your path what was that switch for you that went from like I don't deserve this God like I feel out of place I'm lucky to being like no actually now I see it as this was meant to be my path because I think a lot of people and a lot of our listeners will be there like a lot of people are like they're making

moves and maybe they're first person in their family to go to college or maybe they're the first person who started up a business and an entrepreneur or maybe one of our listeners is trying to break generational trauma and they're the first person to spot it and but then they all live in that space like can I do this like am I the one to do this and so what was it that made that switch from like I'm not sure I'm the guy but oh it is my path it's the sum of all things leading up

into that point I think it's all the doubt it's the impostor syndrome it's the the blessings that you can't really accept fully and you listen to other people speak who are successful or you see examples that you kind of feel connected to like man that that kind of feels like me or what he just said or what she just said I kind of I resonate with that you know I feel like that sometimes you know um other people who are looking at you saying no Mike this is what you have this is what you can

be this is what you are nah n that can't no that's that's too good no that ain't me you know uh your own presence in a situation where you have to step back and look at yourself and be like am I this guy right now like oh man there's a room for the people who showed up because of something I'm doing and they're in service or in support of my idea my thing okay that looks and feels like I'm the guy okay you're in I'm in the industry where you know you're the success of your

work and your art has been you know dictated and validated by other people's opinions and whether those opinions are factual or projected on you uh from their own uh individual perspective I think it's it was it was a combination of all those things and I've always been curious and walked towards the how do I make myself better what are the things that I need the tools that I need in order to improve myself the way I think the way how do I maximize myself you know so from I think getting a you know an executive

coach you know um who talks to Executives all day and and and you know how to create healthy conversations the right type of conversations to have as you're building a team around around you cuz you know as you know it's not just us you know we have an entire team of people that surround us that help us achieve our dreams and and and get the big idea done you know a spiritual advisor a spiritual coach that I have um who you know helps me uh do my energy work my spiritual work and and and and

help sift through the noise and and and and find those things and I think it wasn't until I had you know roles that challenged my spirit in myself in a real way that that that that in the weight and and where the attention was so loud that it was you know was deafening and it it was and and I couldn't you know um see clearly and you know these champag problems you know what I'm saying I you know you know that like you know we're blessed so but the weight is so heavy you know and

people sometimes think and they see what we have or what you know are what we're you know what we're doing and is like oh just be grateful you know or just you know what are you complaining about you know and and you know most people wouldn't be able to walk you know a blocking our shoes you know with with this stuff and I think it was and you have moments where you you resent things and you're angry at you know the feelings that you accumulate for not being clear or or not understanding you know why

why this there's a lot of wise and you're not going to get all the answers but you want to you know be able to get to a place where you're you're clear so to answer a question when did I decide when did I like you know when did I feel like that maybe two years ago maybe a year ago you look at where your family has come from and look at your bloodline you know you look you look at you know your community like man there's a cycle there from generation to generation that happens mhm

when you get to yourself you're like man can I stop this can I change this I could do this once you it's like once you once you know better you got to almost do better once you see it you can't unsee it and I I refuse to ignore it I refuse to see it an opportunity that I had to change things and act like it didn't exist and I think that was the thing for me that I was like nah I I got to I got to if that's my purpose if that's my path is

to just see it and I can see the piece and if I can just continue to do this or if I stay down the pathway on that and I I might be able to make a big difference in my nephew's life or my my my future children's my future grandchildren's life I got to do that because there's so been so many people that might that didn't that that it wasn't the perfect storm for them to have that opportunity it wasn't the right time in the world technology wasn't there the resources the right social conversations are

being had for for us to have these platforms and speak and be successful the way we are you know you you got to you got to do it and and I I think that was a big part of it you know um you know understanding my own mortality you know and and understanding you know that you know life isn't you know isn't a forever thing and I think that happens when you get older too you know what I'm saying like you know just turned 37 and it's like wow I vividly remember you know 15 I

vividly remember 21 I vividly remember 25 30 you know and I used to look at 35 37 like like ancient you know what I'm saying and I'm like oh man we're here and it's like you got to do what you got to do while you're here and make an impact you got to fulfill your you got to fulfill yourself whatever that may be you know um and uh and I think so yeah so that that moment for me where it was like okay I can do this I can maybe a couple years ago I think

was like right as I was stepping into directing Creed 3 mhm and the weight of that and being the captain of the ship the first time being captain of the ship in a you know I've made movies before you know I've I've I've done that I know what that's like but I've never ever been the director you know the the captain of the ship and I think that responsibility that pressure that you know I'm not a dad you know but being a everybody's looking to you for the answer for the solve for the leadership and

I think that really thrust me into uh um a mindset of of uh of leadership that I never quite had the opportunity to do before I I mean there's so much in that it's a great I like it I prefer it that way cuz I'm I'm connecting all the dots as you're speaking and there's a I mean there's so many things I want to unpack with that one of the things that really resonated is this idea that you had to challenge yourself you had to do something out of your comfort zone in order to even

recognize that you could become that you could be and that you could develop and often we're waiting to become before we take on the challenge but it's the challenge that makes us become that person and I think we resist even what you said earlier about the opportunities this idea that if you have opportun and there's an Eastern spiritual teaching which talks about if you have opportunities and you don't take them that's a disservice to humanity because they're opening up to you without your even without your will sometimes right like there's some of us and we'll

sabotage ourselves because we'll say oh well I didn't ask for that I I didn't I didn't know that was for me and so I love the idea of anyone who's listening or watching what Mike's saying I love the idea of Leaning into that opportunity that is opening up for you and even if you don't have the skills and you don't have the talent yet or you don't have all of the tools and the abilities it's going to force you to develop them for sure and and you talking about the coaching I want to go back

to that and ask you about that because you want to be better mentally physically spiritually it's it's a big part of who you are and even the projects you take on which I want to dive into that you said roles that challenge your spirit even that idea that you're looking at a role not as oh what's the next movie to get me the thing it's like oh that's going to challenge my spirit I wanted to ask what has been your best habit or tool uniquely that you've developed for your body your mind and your spirit

individually what have been things that you've done with your coaches in different areas that you think has brought about new epiphanies opportunities and ideas what have been those tools and hacks that maybe people could lock into as well uh I think there's a this woman Ramona Oliver that known me my entire life you know she's my spiritual advisor and coach and and you know I think starting the day you know in meditation you know you're taking a moment to clear yourself and prepare yourself for the day um it's so important to to to step out

of your home with intent and intention a lot of times it's what are you projecting on a situation to help it manifest instead of negatively thinking about things that can help block your blessings that's a big thing you know so so I think I think um and we all have moments of negativity that's part of it you know it's ying and yang you're never going to fully get rid of that but to practice those things in the morning I think was a big help for me yeah huge um you know you're shooting movies and you're

doing things you're walking out you know there's there's there's you hear stories of people but they just can't get a break sometimes and and and for whatever reason it could be from stepping off the curve twisting the ankle to you know the parking ticket to the thing to the oh I just can't get a break and and there's certain people that that carry this Cloud you know and I think some of that can be contributed to the the thought process and the thinking and the energy that you're putting into these things and and it's sometimes

easier set than done but but to to stop and to reframe and to clear yourself and to you know no I'm walking in in this light today and see how much of a difference that can make um and and more on the structurally side this guy Drew cougler who um no relation to Ryan cougler who was uh you know um executive coach and and and you know as my ambitions Grew From production company to Brand marketing Consulting companies to you know just the products and the businesses you know the conversations I need to have with

the team you know and Leadership and the um everybody's coming from different backgrounds and how do you speak everybody's love language because everybody you have to speak differently a little bit to everybody so they can receive it the way you meant it you know and and I think having the the quality of conversations is something that was really helpful for me meaningful conversations um and giving people the space to um hear me and also hold them accountable to the things that I need to hold them accountable for um I think though the combination of the

two uh allowed me to look at situations and opportunities differently for people to look at me differently because it's also a troubling thing when you're walking around has talent for a long time that's how they see you you know and you have an identity have an identity that's how that's what they're so there's this there's these kid gloves that come along with that you know what I'm saying that is it's not everybody's fault that's everybody's in a a role you have to sometimes just step back and look at the thing that we're in you know

like we're in an industry you know that has generations and generations of taught behavior and practices that that any positive disruptor has to understand those things in order to disrupt them in a way absolutely and evolve them you know and and things are evolving you see it you know that things are evolving in a way and if you can look at it in a you know in a higher way I think you can find your way through that yeah yeah that resonates there's a you reminded me of this beautiful statement from Mark Twain where he

said that history never repeats itself but it always Rhymes and I find like when you were talking about the industry I was thinking about how if you don't study history you'll have the rhyme happening in your life but then you can't interrupt the pattern so if you were a young star what you were I love the wire as well I've been a fan of the show it's like so you start in this industry early and then you could spend years trying to figure out why you still have the kid gloves on yeah because you haven't

studied that wait a minute that's what happens that unless you disrupt the pattern present yourself differently show more of yourself people are always going to say he's Talent he's he's an actor that's that's what he does as opposed to oh he's a director oh he's an entrepreneur oh he's he's an investor right I know you have lots of Investments all again in the health and wellness space like corre sports teams and we're talking about moss as well so it's it's interesting how much if you don't study the history of our industry we get locked in

the identity of the role we've played in that space correct forever correct and and it's so easy for us to get used to feeling and often we do it to ourself because it's comfortable playing the same role and there's a familiar feeling of when I play this role and I felt that in my own small way like when I went from having to create content to get my message out there even though I wanted to do TV or film or whatever and couldn't get a break and so I went to content and then I launched

a podcast and I told you about why we launched this podcast earlier and then I wrote books and it was like every time time it was like oh like oh we thought Jay was this but oh he's actually oh and and and I've had to go through that and I've realized the hardest part is you letting go of that identity and Reinventing yourself and allowing yourself right going yeah no no definitely like I mean have you ever like you know has the podcast been something you've always wanted to do and this is me just curious

or is it something that you had to re you forced yourself to re to reinvent yourself in a way because this isn't it for you yeah you know what I'm saying I know it's not you know that this is this is a stop for you this is this is a chapter in your book did you ever think I have to reinvent myself or is that a product of uh the things that were telling you no or the things that was challenging yeah it's a great question I think it's a mix of them all but the

thing that kind of like supersedes all of them which I try and tap into which I think you'll resonate with because I think that's the conversation we're having is having a connection with your intuition like for me it's I'm not looking at like oh what's the next Trend or like how do I disrupt myself how do because to me those things are still following other patterns gotta whereas it's intuitively going like what is what is the thing that I bring or what do I want to do or what is the the the missing piece of

the puzzle that I believe I have a unique qualification to fill gotta because if I'm always looking around there will always be a million things like I always say to people if you go to a real estate conference you'll realize you don't invest enough in real estate you if you go if you go to a crypto currency conference you'll feel like oh crap I didn't do this and if you like if I sit with a group of actors I'll be like oh man I should have start you're always going to feel the deficiency of the

trend that you study correct and so if you live that way around it gets really complicated because then you're like well do I do this or do or do that like whereas when you when you go inward it's like oh I feel alignment with this right now because it lets me express myself it lets me connect with people in a certain way I feel I'm at the right evolution in my Journey where it can manifest as opposed to like oh let me just figure out what the next big thing is which if that makes so

much sense bro and I think that's what it is is like your alignment with where you feel truthful yeah you know and and sometimes that always doesn't mean you're going to be financially okay totally as well you know you know you can feel ESP aligned in everything and mortgage is due you know rent is due you feel me so so there's that element of it as well that you have to find your your way through yeah that that that intuition that that North Star is what is something that has led me all types of places

uh that I wouldn't trading for the world you know just that feeling of this feels right and I I know does it make sense probably there's probably some other things on paper that that seems like the better option or choice but this feels right and and you know more often than that you know it's it's been the right move yeah I loved what you were saying earlier about how the thought process is such a powerful way of breaking out over the cloud over your head and I think we all have moments where the cloud feels

like it's never moving it's constantly raining on you and I think a lot of people who are listening may feel that way like have you ever been in that place and and how have you what has helped with your thought process has you been tuning that what worked for you at least that's your moment that's your moment it's not that All Is Lost when you're feeling the most trapped and and down and nothing can't go right I feel like those are the moments that define you those are those character Cannon moments that are like what

am I going to do now you know how do you respond to that and thinking your way feeling your way working your way through those things on the other side it's like you know I don't know who said the say but like usually you know you're the closest to getting what you want is always the hardest it's always the feeling when you're getting ready to you know people give up right before they get what they've always wanted to get people quit and they give up and I will not be the person who quit before I

got what I wanted or what I needed or what I felt I was supposed to have you know like and if that wasn't for me it wasn't for me I'mma keep grinding I'mma keep knocking on the door until I get what I feel that's been something I've always felt since having the name Michael Jordan and understanding that there's another guy out there named Michael Jordan that was the best ever to do something and being teased and picked on about that and and and and and made me for a moment not wanting to play sports but

then it was like nah I'm actually going to make sure I'm compet I'm going to compete at least I'm going to compete you're going to at least see me I'm going to be somebody that it's not going to be oh his name is this it's going to be oh no but he can play or oh no he can oh he he he has something about him something that is formidable that is above average that is that is unique to him and and I it gave me a healthy chip you know so so and and for

the people who are listening who you know who do have you know that doesn't feel like they can change their circumstances with the way they think or they feel just hold on just endure endure you know uh look at things differently challenge yourself to look at things as the glass half full challenge yourself to think four steps ahead think your way through it like now we have so many tools we have so much information there's a lot of misinformation out there but but there's so much information to to be curious find something that you that

does resonate with you even if it's not in the world that you ever thought you would be in find something that you align with and cuz everybody aligns with something that's not an excuse I'm going I'm willing to take from anybody you know align with something and find your find your positivity find your intuition within that thing and and and be obsessed about it what have you been obsessed with lately like what would you say is the thing you're most obsessed with right now or or that you have been in the past couple of years

that is kind of just attracted and I've been obsessed with getting my team right I've been obsessed with getting the right person now on the right brain frequency and getting everybody on the same page to to accomplish these things that we need to go accomplish because I truly believe it's going to be better for everyone I think it's really going to make an impact you know um and and so there's there's a there's a obsessiveness that you got to have to overcommunication about it you know strengthening my family mhm I'm obsessed over it you know

uh to lead by example mhm you know and break generational trauma and curses I'm obsessed over it um and I'm obsessed over every project that I uh lend myself to so this next movie that me and Ryan's doing I'm literally you know I'm growing on my stuff out you know I mean my hair and stuff out now I'm becoming obsessed with it you know and that character and it's it's a it's an addictive feeling to have a thought and see it come to fruition to create something out of out of you know out of an

from an idea yeah um and to be persistent and to see it and to manifest it you know um manifestation I I just love it you know what I mean it's it's cool so so that's something that I've been I've been really really um locked in with and I think it's also something that is going to help people you know there's there's always a I don't want anything that's not multi- hying MH I I want I want anything that I'm involved in it it has to have layers to it um you know how do you

help how do you educate what's to leave behind what blueprint am I leaving for the Next Generation you know I got a nephew now you know that is looking up at me constantly yes because of height but also because of the example you know and he's mimicking everything I do he mimicking anything I can say something do something I can sit a certain type of way oh snap he's doing it too it's crazy so it clarifies your intention when you do things because you want it to have you know purpose and intention you know um

so th those are the things and I'm obsessed with being the best version of myself and that's a daily thing you know um and some days are better than others finding my myself in a world where there's so many seen opinions about yourself uh when everybody's telling you who and what you are you know learning how to live you know growing up in then like and it's so wild I've been doing this for 25 years straight you know and that's a wild thing to think about man more than half of my life has been my

ident was been through the work that I've been doing and and growing up in with you know social media what didn't exist now it does at a point where I'm old enough to understand what that can do so I'm obsessed with finding myself now uh after and and not having to prove anything to anybody other than myself and my family you know but really myself and realizing that that is enough MH you know what I'm saying saying like that like giving your best is enough and and sometimes we lose track of that you know and

and yeah so for anybody out there you know you're enough man absolutely let's let's toast that let's toast that yeah yeah yeah shake it up shake it up yeah man and this is the pure so we have three flavors right now the mango ginger the pomegranate but this is the cheers ah cheers my appreciate you bro I'm excited to try this oh that's good that's easy easy it's easy and anybody that's had like fresh seos in the past they might not they might not had a good experience cuz they either they like they they kind

you know tried to clean it and process it themselves so smooth smooth yeah don't taste like the ocean but it tastes a little you know it's it's a little heightened it's like it's refreshing it's smooth and it's easy that's how I feel about it it's like yeah I'm like this is like and it's a great mixer you know you know I don't know if you know you we call them Moss tailes but like if you want to do like mocktails moss tails you know what I'm saying or if you want to mix them like with

drinks like with with the spirits and stuff like that it's a really good uh yeah man I just this this is five years of of obsession uh you know obviously when you know Health scares all over the place people you know not a lot of information on what's really going on what can help what canot help I was you know finishing up a movie in Berlin um and you know doing my own stunts not sleeping a lot in a foreign place you know uh food was really wasn't really my thing as much and I was

looking for something to kind of just help me get through my shoot days and um and I was just chug seamos like I mean by the jar just to I mean I I was it's got to be doing good I know it's doing good you know just buy the jar and and and then you know on the flight home it was like it's got to be a better way yeah so I started making smoothies started you know Blended them in and my sister was pregnant with my uh my nephew lenx at the time so you

know at that point everybody was in their own bubble you know you know you know wasn't able to kind of visit many people so we would just blend up smoothies drop them off at the front door you know that was my little care package that I would do I would do I would do seos and I would do like a you know a homemade little pasta and that was my Act of service for my family you know so so so that that labor of love that that that kind of uh it started from a place

of just trying to help my family just like you know stay healthy during the pandemic and it slowly evolved in something that I wanted to get you know uh make it accessible to everyone yeah for people who don't know the benefits of seos what are some of the things and the properties it's that cognitive brain you know it's that Clarity uh your your your immune system so being able to harvest them in a way that that gets those nutrients inside of this drink in your daily dose of moss is something that I was really really

exciting me um about just like making a beverage about it yeah the off tast is great too there's no it's it's there you know it makes you want to drink more of it yeah and um and good man it's good man it's good and and it's it's uh yeah I'm proud of it I'm proud of it congratulations now we know we got to go to yours man what's up no we left to do a we left to do a m now with junior junior M yeah no but I love it cuz Asanda we got Asanda

in ours as well and Jin sync so I mean you you you got all the adaptogens in it so that's great yeah yeah no it's been it's been a labor of love for us too it's like me and my wife always talked about it as our Co baby it's like this what we were working on cuz we were the same we've been addicted to tea our whole lives and we did a hot tea as well but we were like you know for a lot of people their hot drink is coffee and we're like well wait

a minute what if your soda could be healthy for you and good for you and you know how could we do it where it has you know zero grams of sugar like how do you still get it to taste great with no sugar cuz Mo me and my wife are both off of refined sugars and trying to be healthy and all the rest of it and then you realize that all the sodas you're drinking are full of it so how do we make it easy for people understand these herbs and these adaptogens and you know

because a lot of people we grew up with it we were lucky in our culture in Indian culture you grew up with a lot of these herbs and spices in your daily food exactly and but a lot of people don't have access to that so it's like how do you make it easy when people may not have in their kitchen so yeah man I I'll send you some to try later well no please do man I said you got the agivey in there and everything and I love this man I was loving what you were

saying about the building of teams because and and something you said was like how do you keep everyone on like the fre same frequency and like attract those people and I went I went through a big thing for that in a certain part of my work around two years ago a lot of people that are in my sphere today some of them have been around since the beginning and and some of them came on in the last two years and it has been lifechanging yes like absolutely lifechanging from an energy standpoint from a spirit standpoint

and from a productivity Effectiveness standpoint how have you been trained or what do you how do you sense Beyond like someone being able to do the job obviously how have you been able to learn how to sense or understand whether someone's on that same brain wave and as you said or brain energy as you are and and has that same value set that you have I think it's uh a lot of conversations and and and sometimes trial and error uh I think my in my intuition and my gut is is the first you know litness

test is the first kind of line of defense you know that I that I have of like the energies vibe you know what I'm saying like Okay that that that that you feel on par how you know how you answer a question what are the things that you're saying you know um are you speaking from ego are you speaking about you know what what is the what is the thing you know you you know we're used to we meet so many people we have to use Quick judgments and who gets our time you know um

who do you open up to who do you not and I think when it comes to building into a team uh especially nowadays you're coming into something that's that's well oiled yeah you're coming into a machine already so you have to fit not just with me but you have to kind of fit with everybody you know you you you have to know how to communicate the things you need to know how to communicate to you have to the the ego is something that can get in a lot of people's way when joining a team and

joining something that's already really established and I think I think um coming to a place of learning and listening is really important and not taking things personally um I I think I think uh and then it's something to the people that's already been in the team to understand that there's going to be a additions and there is a process of there's a onboarding there's a welome there's a thing that you have to to bring people into the fold in a way to get the best out of them so I think there's been there's been those

learning things along the way that's really that really helped me identify people who um that fit and work well within the circle you know um and and uh yeah I think that's been my my kind of process thus far uh and then yeah I always want to create an environment where people want to be yeah you know you're not here for a check yeah you're here because you believe in what we're doing and what we want to do and I'm pretty transparent about those things you know so so I think I think just being extremely

transparent and and and forward with those things and and and know that there's nothing personal if this isn't it you know like um I'm the best I'm the I'm the guy that's always going to give you a great recommendation you know what I mean like I'm I I want people to win you know at the end of the day I want people to win and and seeing somebody in their strengths you know and being like okay I I can use that that this this this would be helpful in this way um and if that works

out it works out and if not then man I man I want to see you do well yeah I love that yeah we I remember years ago I was listening to Eric Schmidt who was the CEO of Google for a bit and he was talking about how they were looking for smart creatives and I love that that they had two words that kind of summed up what they looked for they they looked for people who were smart creatives and for me it became humble Champions I was like I want humble winners I want I want

the people who can who want to win and have that ambition but are able to put their ego aside because then we're going to speed up getting there because the thing that slows you down from winning is ego like the thing that stops you from passing the ball is ego or you know bowing out and saying it's your turn is ego and so but but you still have to have that champion mind ship because it isn't just about oh yeah no no no you do it your thing like and that was a big thing and

then the other thing that worked for me was I was like I need to work with people that I could go to breakfast lunch or dinner with if we didn't work together do I actually want to go to breakfast lunch and dinner with this person because I probably will be when I'm traveling or on the road that means I like spending time with them which means I'm happy to coach them and I'm happy to learn from them exactly whereas if I don't want to and and initially I was like that I used to just hire

people who are great at what they did we didn't really have chemistry like we didn't we didn't we couldn't hang out and that wasn't because they were wrong it was also because I wasn't aware gotta and and then of course yeah the mission the purpose is I mean that's core and Central and because even for you I mean you're spending time from your family with you know your team becomes your extended family they they absolutely they are your family you're eating like said breakfast lunch and dinner you know like there's there's a part of you

that you know it has to feel like I'm getting a little bit of my family here and if it's not that you know it's really hard for me you know obviously like you know you have a bigger company and there's employees and you're not going to be as personal with everybody within the company you know you're not having breakfast lunch or dinner with everybody but but there's a there's a there's a feeling of you know I I don't mind on a Sunday everybody at my house watching the game spending time because that's when not the

N9 to5 time to be creative or the nino5 time to do the job that's the that's the extra mile that's the oh I had this idea and I was just thinking oh oh we're looking at something together and this would be great though the best ideas sometimes come from those just hangout moments and those moments where you're just spending time with with uh with people that you work with so yeah I think that yeah you're right that's that's really important yeah for sure when before the obsession point that came up which which was fascinating I'm

glad I asked you that and you went you went into it you're talking about like you know you you live in an industry and you talked about social media where people have an opinion of you people people even an opinion it's like people have a lens because they've seen you in a particular light and I was wondering like what do you think something that people get right about you and what's something that people sometimes get wrong about you like what what do you feel like when it comes to that like I'll tell you mine like

I feel like for me a lot of people think that I get like often because of what I teach and what I'm sharing and what I'm guiding it's like oh well Jay must get everything perfect all the time and like you know he's like super deep and like always just saying profound things and and that's not true obviously because as much as that is who I am and that is my heart I'm not always like that like I have I have bad days I have bad moods I have off days I have I have days

when I'm not feeling that way right and so that's that's something that people get wrong about me sometimes in in that perception because but dedicated to this work I'm obsessed with it I'm obsessed with being better but that doesn't remove me from having flaws and weaknesses and and so yeah you should do a blooper reel you should do a blooper outtake reel of those moments you have your team catch you in these little moments and you should put one out that'll be fun that would be fun that would be fun I think on it yeah

I like that I like that that would be a good one I like that I think for me is like I think I've intentionally stayed out the way so much where I'm not giving anybody any anything to go off of other than what I want you to know you know I think I think that's been it for a long time I've always had the approach of like not speaking on things and not giving them life you know there's there's there's going to be perspectives and there's things about you that just aren't true uh do you

do you care to correct somebody or not you know because most of the time people's minds are made up no matter what you say it is what it's going to be you know stay out the comment section you know what I mean you some great entertainment in there but then you can get a lot of stuff that is just people who want to project the thing that's going to get the most attention and the issue that I have with a lot of that is they can be completely false and we have a a industry of

we were talking earlier the lack of Journalism and the skill of that that will run with those things knowing that there is no basis to them but now that's a narrative that's attached to you that you have to be strong enough and strong minded enough to ignore knowing it's not true or this human nature feeling of wanting to no that's not true I want people to know this about me and I've always walked on that line of you know not caring trying not to care and knowing that I'm enough and and knowing my truth and

the people who know me know me you know I am about my community and my people you know wholeheartedly and a lot of the choices that I make and the things that I want to do and be a part of is in service of that bigger picture you know of of helping that you know my community in a in a big way um so I think the biggest thing sometimes if if they ever feel like that they're not my top priority is maybe one of the biggest misconceptions um you know the the love I have

for my community regardless of people's approach I think everybody has a different strategy and approach to how they affect and make change everybody it doesn't all look the same um and because it may not be typical or the average voice because the package is different and the craft and my field is different so I have a different set of boundaries that exist in my Lane that I maneuver without in and out of MH like I love playing chess I love I love I love strategy I love I love rever reverse engineering and Building Things So

I I think I think that's one of the the biggest things and you know sometimes ignorance and a laugh or a joke or a like or a thing we've we've uh encouraged the behavior of negativity and things and loudness is all is the thing and and and that's just not what that's not what I'm into yeah I'm into the love of things I'm into the the humanity and bringing people together the best way and but also I'm human yeah no I I appreciate that I mean I I also think we've put a false pressure on

the definition of authenticity meaning you share everything with everyone and I'm not sure I Vibe with that definition because I think authenticity by nature is you sharing what you feel comfortable with each person like that's what it means to be authentic and you could argue that authentic just means being however you want to be in any given situation and so I think there has become a false pressure of oh you got to show your authentic by showing every part of yourself and I don't know if that that triggers anything for you is like what's the

definition of authenticity for you or for me that's what it is but what is it for you I think it's um but then in hindsight there's a there's a piece of it that not even just to go back but there's there's also like maybe that's my insecurity framing what the loudness of the things that I'm most sensitive of is is this noise somehow yeah it triggers us for a reason it you know I'm saying there's some stuff that you just go oh yeah I care yeah whatever but it's like some that's just like man like

why why does that bother me so much y like there's something there's something about that that because I know what that does in the bigger like I'm always thinking bigger picture it's very rarely that I really focus on the thing it's always about what's the cause of that in a bigger conversation you know um the the authenticity to me is being able to sleep at night being able to go talk to my mom and and knowing that the the people that know me every fiber of my being every my intention knows my heart through and

through that they see the same person they're able to connect with the same energy and the same Vibe and The Same Spirit my energy has never changed you know I think being authentic to that frequency is super important to me no matter where I go no matter how I evolve um and have to mature and grow up I want my energy to always feel the same that's why you meet certain people and it's been years that go by and you pick right back up where you left off it feels like no time is lost that

energy is never it's always the same and I I love when people I haven't seen in a long time or come at me like man whoa it feel you know it's the same and and that that just lets me know that I'm not losing myself I'm not losing track of you know who I am yes and where I come from and I I am always going to be an Agent of Change trojan horse or not you know what I'm saying and and yeah you just and continue to lead by example you know I I know

I know um the path that I'm on isn't easy you know sometimes it may look easy you know uh for the successes or whatever but but it's uh behind closed doors I'm doing I'm doing the the the work so the future Generations have it a little bit easier or have a little bit more tools to use um and they can ask for certain things that won't be like what if it be almost standard form you know and you know from my vantage point I'm able to see a lot of the RO blocks that exist within

systems you know and and paperwork and precedents I've been chipping away at those where I can in places and there's so many look I say I a lot in this interview there's so many people out there are doing that type of work you know that exists men and women women in these places that are breaking down doyers that are chipping away say sha Shank Redemption you know grab rock at a time gravel at a time you know eventually that hole is going to be open you know what I'm saying eventually it's going to be open

but just chipping away and unfortunately everybody can't be the loudest one in the room you know got to be sometimes you got to be the quiet guy in the room you gotta listen and and look and pay attention and and and move how you need to move uh the chess pieces they have different rules and different movements for a reason you know and they're on the board in different places for a reason and and uh I know my place on the board and I think that's that's what it comes down to right it's like I

appreciate you bringing out that point around how things that trigger us give us somewhere to focus on in our within ourselves like I feel like that too like I'm like there's certain things that just don't phase me at and I look like the most detached guy and like you know I'm bulletproof and there something that gets through that vest it's just like and and you know it's because there's a part of it that feels true and and there's a part of you that you've allowed for it to feel true because it could be that you

are there's there's a part of your self-esteem you haven't worked on there's there's something you took from your childhood and made true for you and now when someone else says it and you didn't even know where it came from but you know I was talking to a friend the other day and we were talking about how one of his mentors was letting him down and we discovered in that I've been friends with this guy for like 20 years we're best mates and it was like 20 years later we figured out that he'd made his mentor

his father figure okay and he didn't really put two and two together until just now and neither did I for him and he was like wait a minute no wonder I'm feeling so much pain with this mentor of mine because I'd made him a father figure and gone through that feeling of he's Superman and now realizing he's not even though I'm aye old and so it's just so interesting how the that gets under ourin yeah it can just be hidden there and it gets stale and stuck and and then you don't look at it because

you're like oh no no it's nothing it's nothing but at one point when you feel safe enough you have to kind of like look under the hood and go you know why is that there but coming on to the point you were just making around Paving the way for others and setting an example and the responsibility that comes with and like you said there's so many people doing that I feel like how would you define your current purpose like how do you define with everything you're doing because you talked about purpose being a big thing

for you and you talk about the mission of your company like what is the purpose of that work who which doors are you trying to open which paperwork are you trying to shift what systems are you trying to affect I think I have my purpose right now yeah that's what I mean yeah know I I think I have a a chapter 25 years acting um you know producing you know being in front of the camera being Talent learning so much about the world about myself about the industry you know I think being a a representative

as a for my community in a in a way that places that a black actor hasn't gone you know um obviously you have the greats you have the wills and the Denzel you know what I'm saying that that I look up to in a big way that you know that that through their talent the the the business and the craft has extended to a new height mhm so they've opened up doors for me that I didn't even know was possible that now was like oh wow now we have this and that now I could do

that and do that so they've kicked the door down in a way that's like you know internally grateful so like leading by example is is a big purpose you know to for people to be able to see it because it was big for me to see it and think that I can do it too so there that there that part of yeah there's the um the business side of things that I've got an opportunity to learn from investing your money you know what do you do with the the savings and the things that you do

have mhm big Sports guy you know I've always wanted to you know own a team I'm competitive I wanted to be involved in that in that in that environment that energy you know of sports and found a football team you know in Bournemouth a great football I've literally had to like you know bite my I cannot say soccer anymore say football say football yeah uh and and um great great partner and you know Bill fool and he owns the Las Vegas golden kns and and really trying to turn that program around and just just amplify

it in a big way but learning you know how to invest in those things you know uh oh there's going to be a new stadium oh there's opportunity to invest in real estate oh wow now you're investing in real estate and something that's going to be around for you know however many year lease and this and that okay cool I take that and oh wow uh investing in you know started a uh a JV for you know um underneath an umbrella company to have your own product and then from there you can create another JV

oh you can invest Capital oh you can have a venture F oh oh snap okay wow this is a whole other game this is a whole other Nuance of uh Acquisitions and investment and capital that I never even knew exist I'm I'm used to you know W9 forums and taxes you know like you know what I'm saying on that you know on on on the talent side there's a whole other game to be played um and and taking that information just the information that that exists and what that would do to you know to to

the Next Generation you know knowing what's available to him knowing that there's other ways to maximize my my my brand you know your brand um creating things ownership of things um as streamers and Studios and there's there's so many other platforms that are you know people are content crazy you know podcasts you know it's become a business as well you know new you know a new Venture that that people are be able to monetize their own their own following their own their own likeness in a realway retirement what does that look like really you know

do you know really a will what leaving a will behind like what like I mean know I mean there's things that you just don't get taught you know there's nobody you know so so I've stumbled on it upon it these things within my success and my intuition and my Partnerships and my relationships that but again it goes back to like the why me this one guy you know that has got has gotten access to all these things and my man over here my guy over there nope they you guys would never know about none of

these things because of how whatever your Life Path has taken you has not been in these areas or nobody's had the opportunity to say those things to you so I put that on me as a purpose to be able to to give that information you know in a real way and identify the you know people that are hungry enough and you know that want it you know that want it they got to want it and they gota be a then come on let's go figure it out all right let me let me let me figure

out how to help set you up with the right people so you got the right conversations you know and then you also got to be careful who you help too you know you can't you know you want to help everybody but you can't help everybody um but you can leave a blueprint for everyone you know sometimes that's all a person should need sometimes is seeing it and and being and in in the thought then you got to leave it on the person to do their their part of the work to lift that part of the

weight to put on that burden to go do that for themselves their family their their their their people within their their Circle and stuff yeah for sure I like that man that's I mean it's super powerful because I think yeah so many people don't have access don't understand don't have the language anguage don't have the vocabulary and it's a it's a huge purpose what do you do when it all just gets too much when you're like it's a lot it's a lot you know you're shoot days you're busy you go this kind like what do

you do when it all gets too much what's the first thing I try to go to Japan I I try to get on the first thing smoking into Japan I'm out of here uh it's one of the few places that I've been that I I feel like I just exist yeah you know what I'm why Japan I been growing up I've been obsessed with anime I'm a big anime guy you know so since I was like you know 11 12 years old it's been anime you know and that's been my cartoons comic books anim I

mean that's just like my you know uh escapism I'm in that and you know growing up watching those shows you they there's so much of their identity in their culture in the dialogue and the messaging and all that stuff so I just had this idea this place in my head that was full of respect and it was hospitable and uh hard work and tradition and you know I mean thousands of years of you know a couple thousand years of tradition you know what I'm saying that you know that that exists and and I was like

man I wonder what this place going to live up to the expectation obviously the food and the culture all that good stuff and uh yeah when I went it it was it was everything that I thought it would be and more you know um and obviously I went went the right type of way I you know I created anime as well you know I wanted to like you know because they're they're they're so loving and and and um welcoming in a really big way and yeah for me going there there's not a you know a

million phones being out everybody they're very respectful of your space they um and people are going to obviously come up and say what's up you know that's what's going to happen but it's it's in a way where you don't feel like I have to hide as much I feel like I could walk down the streets there a little bit more Loosely and that's something that you know I don't really have as much here in LA or you know New York you get a little bit more of it you know what I'm saying kind of like

you know people in sometimes like whatever keep pushing but it's it's it's a it's a different thing but something about Japan that was awesome and you know um and another place that I can't wait to really go is Ghana as well Dad's been spending a lot of time there wow I haven't like for my SK for whatever reason every time that I'm trying to go something that I cannot change pops up but but that's a place that people tell me stories of the similar feeling of going there in the love and Infinity of being in

in that place and really want to go there as well so so that that's that so if I can't get to Japan I'm usually at the house I'm either cooking or playing like Call of Duty I'm I'm I'm playing Call of Duty online you know what I'm saying uh with my boys back back you know from from all over and uh and and you know it's a place where you can you know it's fair game you know it's even playing field you know what I'm saying you know some mindless you know kind of you know

you know camaraderie with your boys and stuff you know it's I love cooking food is a love language for me you know so so being able to you know find a recipe or try something new and combine flavors probably you never thought would go together and just creating those those moments is another form of art too um and and and I like PE enjoying people eating my food you know like like serving people and being like you know I normally don't like land but have you had it like this and then uh and it's having

people just you know react to that is is a is a um is something that I enjoy doing too with Bournemouth we're going to have to get you into FIFA as wellif yeah I I got to get on that's the next one that's what I do that's my that's my guilty pleasure some easy wins at first so we we'll start off I'll be B you'll be B okay all right cool got it yeah you Pi you Pi yeah it'll be good dude I you've been amazing today I've got a few more questions want to ask

you before I let you go that this question is like what has been a lesson you wish you learned earlier in life like is there a lesson that you learned recently that you're like I wish I learned this one ear I think being unapologetically honest with what you want and that and that goes across the board I was trying to think of something that kind of across the board if you can communicate your truth and and and not worry so much about how somebody's going to react to what you say cuz a lot of times

the fear of how somebody's going to react to what you you really want to say is what stops you from saying it sometimes and you find another way or you put it off or you don't say it and maybe the situation doesn't change and and you you get frustrated and upset why this thing doesn't change because you kind of maybe might not have said it the way you wanted to say you know and I think there's a you know a way to be unapologetically and still be respectful and speak your truth if I think I

would have done that earlier what said I I would have been further along in relationships that I have with people I care about and and and not intimately I mean I mean I mean ac across the board Rel uh work relationships business family female friends you know whatever it may have been I think being honest with with with where you stand and how you feel it's really giving another person an option and opportunity to be as honest with youh and whatever your fear of that is of that outcome is never really as big as what

you make it up to be you know it's really not that so I would say I would say maybe just being being being honest and um and living with the results you know and and tomorrow is not promised to anyone but time will move on you know you will move past it you know um and if tomorrow never come at least you can know that you said what you needed to say yeah you know so I think that's one thing that I feel like like earlier on if I could if I if I had that

might have been better yeah that's a thoughtful answer I was thinking when you were saying that it's like we we're so scared of our honesty hurting someone not re realizing that us holding back our honesty is hurting them even more and longer term it is it's a hard it's a hard one because when you have to be honest it makes you look worse it makes you feel bad it makes that person feel bad it gets it gets messy on so many levels but what if that person needed to hear it yeah you know what if

that person never heard that that note or that that thought or perspective and then they go on in life you know continuing to you know move and act and speak in a way without that you're doing almost a disservice you know it goes back to like knowing if you know better you got to do better right like so so I think that kind of maybe speaks to like a bigger thing with me of like wanting to just be better and wanting people around me to be better and grow you know because I guess one going

back to you know just the other misconceptions is like you know thing of people look at me and think I got everything I got it all you know it's not true man like I'm flawed you know and I'm and I'm actively trying to get better daily you know and I fail all the time and I come up short all the time on even how to communicate no matter how much coaching I go through and you know and practice and and and and and running conversations through my head you know in the shower and like all

right I'm going to say this I'm going say that I want to hit that point okay you know what I'm saying and you know I'm just in the I'm I'm trying to do my best you know and and I think the weight to try to live up to everybody's perfect expectation of me has been really really heavy for a long time you know and I think the last couple years I've been trying to maneuver out of that uh Mike we end every episode of on purpose with a final five okay these five questions have to

be answered in one word to one sentence maximum so it can be one sentence I will ask you to explore it further if if there's something that hits me all right so Mike these are your final five the first question is the first qu your ones have two parts I've never done this before but with you I'm about to do it because I think there's some things I really want to know so the first question is what is the best advice you've ever heard and the worst advice you've ever heard best advice is uh if

you're unsure about something take a moment you know if you're unsure uh don't don't don't answer right away take a moment think about it it's okay M you know don't answer just because you feel like you got to be out and be quick and be fast about it you know uh because you end up stumbling over your words and and and and or or not something every words saying something that you don't really really mean so I would say that's probably some of the best advice I got worst advice buy it now you'll get it

back just what just spend it now you you'll make it back you know what I'm saying I think I I think that'sa I think that's probably some of the worst price I've got that's B man yeah youy I think at the time it was closed yeah at the time it was closed it was closed it was it was it was uh and I wasn't even really a big Clos guys at the time I was like ah whatever but it was like yeah you're right you I'll make it back don't worry about it yeah it's cool

yeah of course I will you know like yeah and and then you know we're on 7-Eleven Diet for the next you know two months I love it good answers good answers all right I'm going to give you a choice yeah get a pick pick one of these you choose whichever one yeah yeah all right take look oh man I want to know what the other one is I'll let you talk about this one first this one this is um how old dog it's my dad's dog tag from the Marines that linen jacket says All My

Children I'm saying maybe s 16 17 maybe like Disney like super soap weekend or something like that I think it was like one of those things where like the soap opers had this this weekend in in at uh I think it was in C California yeah yeah yeah Disney and um I want to say this is from that is that what advice would you what advice would you give to him uh Savor those moments of being a teenager I think you know looking back at the teenage years you know we a have a worry we

we what problems we have you know it was high school you complaining about homework you know what I'm saying like it you know I was I was working at that time you know what I'm saying so but but I would just say like enjoy those years man you know of just of just uh of the the purity of it you know I look back and I was like man this is like a this is a pretty pure is innocent kid yeah what would he say back to you now looking at you now maybe I knew

you could do it you know I I think I would tell myself that you could do it too yeah I I I think I think you know nobody thought I I mean I didn't at that time you know I think you know what what what could have been what what is he had a you know thought I had an idea of what could be you know I had I always had to the optimism of what could be you know it just like it follow that more maybe I love that man this is the other one

a this is dope we got plenty we just picked these two these were the two that the team left I don't know if this is my birthday or my sister's birthday but this is my grandmother's kitchen and uh my sister was right there and I think she was either helping me cut a cake or something but yeah that's my that's my my my was that was my my my guardian and that was my my My Bodyguard was my sister it's a good one I love it I love it man um all right question number I

don't know which question we want I totally ignored my own format but it's all right that's the best that's that's when it's the best um what's what's the best part of being Michael B Jordan and the worst part part of being Michael B Jordan being Uncle Mike man it's a feeling of like with my nephew and my niece that I've never had I've never loved something so much is like wow like whoa like I think I think being Uncle Mike right now is is is the best part of that right now um worst part I

love multitasking I love I love I love uh the juggling the The Balancing Act of the things that I do I love that and the worst part is the the loneliness that comes with that you know I think there's a there's a there's a you know a loneliness that I have you know the the responsibility that you have and is is is isolating and the weight is isolating so I think I think the the worst part of that is is is the the feeling like nobody really understands and and sometimes falling into the spaces of

like just you know being alone feeling alone thanks for sharing everything today I mean okay question number four we're nearly that four and five question number four uh you talked about knowing your team's love language this question is my team's love language okay okay how does being the sexiest man in life find love from the girls of my team dedicated to dedicated to you so I revert back to the last question it's very it's very lonely no it's uh I go back and forth between wanting partnership and then not knowing what's the best partner for

me like bringing them into my world what I got going on isn't easy and it's it's not just I love you you love me that should be enough right it's not it's not quite that simple you know I think I think finding the right person to understand a all of me but then all that comes with me as well and understanding you know that balance between wanting to be available and there for for that person while I'm juggling everything else and feeling okay to put the other part of my businesses down and you know this

sacrifice and compromise that comes with a partnership and a relationship and what is and and understanding how how to make that all work is sometimes gives me anxiety and pause you know and and and and then also there's a part of me that has not really lived life yet I I I haven't really traveled as much for fun or just like Japan has been a few times that I've went where I didn't have a schedule where I didn't have to be somewhere for press I didn't have to be these mult I had to put the

other hats on you know uh there's so many different places and people I've never had an opportunity to happily meet that I might connect and Vibe with that might be a person that my soul connects to you know um and and I think you know those things I I'm I'm looking forward to that part of my life you know I think the last couple years I'm starting to get to a place where it's like you know what I got to start living yeah you know I've been I've been I've sacrificed and I've been in locked

zoned in for so long it you know I owe it to myself a little bit to do that you know um and I think that's a a byproduct of being a little bit of a you know I'm a delayed satisfaction delayed gratification person like I can I've always wanted to lock in for the first half do what I got to do get to I need to get to make sure everything's straight and set up and then be a little bit more have the freedom to move how I want to move and or whatever so that's

the long-winded answer of a of of a I'm not I'm not looking but it would take a very special person to understand and grow with me you know just you know you want to create memories you know I want I want a family you know what I'm saying eventually so we'll see what's up we'll see you are lucky because I asked you that question the other question was what's his type so I like that I like that I like that question I like that one you like that better no good good ask the wrong question

I thought I was reading you I was like yeah no I mean joking I don't know I I wasn't asking you for real I wasn't can move on for that yeah I was mess with you uh Fifth and final question yeah uh if you could we ask this to every guest who's ever been on the show if you could create one law that everyone in the world had to follow what would it be a law that you couldn't intentionally kill or cause bodily harm oh to anyone that's I think that covers a lot of stuff

I mean you still you gotta leave room people for to humans to be humans and everybody's not going to be good you know everybody's not going to have all that in there but if we can eliminate the senseless killing and you know the bodily harms you know of other people's bodies in a real way I think there's but then there's like the systemic thing I'm trying to get out of cuz like you know I'm trying to eat I'm trying to level the playing field yeah you know um so just the economic opportunities that the disparity

those those systematic oppression the systematic oppression that does exist is the thing that I I most I most want to change so I'm trying to think of that's a good question man you keep thinking about it tell me later yeah yeah cuz I like your one cuz it also applies to like you couldn't develop products that like your your question I mean your answer applies to food drugs medicine which is kind of what keeps a lot of people stuck in the system because if they can like bodily harm to me isn't just physical violence it's

also the kind of things we ingest and consume and that is what keeps a lot of people stuck because they're eating unhealthy food because that's all they have access to and that's all they can afford and that that plays with the I mean that's what I was hearing too yeah on a sub level I don't yeah all right I with that I love it Michael be Jordan Mike it has been such a joy and honor we got to do a part two I've got I can talk to you for hours I've got so many questions

man like that we can get into but I want to thank you for your honesty your openness uh the fun we've had bringing moss along everyone if you're not drinking it already make sure you drink a moss while you listen it on purpose and thank you so much for coming by I want audience please tag me and Mike with your favorite moments I know you guys cut the best Clips on Tik Tok and Instagram do that for this episode there was so many moments where he was just downloading and uh I think it's going to

have a big impact so Mike thank you again very grateful man thank you so much for having me bro it's been it's been an honor the it was worth the wait man so I appreciate you having me anytime appreciate you if you love this episode you'll love my interview with Kobe Bryant on how to be strategic and obsessive to find your purpose our children have become less imaginative about how to problem solve and parents and coaches have become more directive and trying to tell them how to behave versus teaching them how to behave