"One More Rep" Mentality is Bad for Longevity w/Pavel Tsatsouline | Joe Rogan

the Joe Rogan experience in fact this is one of the very important points in that Soviet coaches would make that do not force that apt a shoe there David triggered rigors probably the greatest weightlifter of all times so he is over sixty World Records in several weight classes and just unbelievable athlete so he just made a point that do not force the strength development do not force mass development that's another problem you start it's possible to build muscle fast but it's not gonna necessarily very quality muscle so yes take your time and and this is

interesting enough Joe this is what old timers understood I am a fan of books by old-time strongman not all of them of course but some of them are just remarkable Earl Lederman kills an American strongman an educator he wrote a book back in 1925 called the seekers of strength and it's an awesome book she read this book and if you follow the directions in this book from 1925 you will get far superior results and for most pop fitness and strength programs because people who had some sense some common sense they were able to get observe

what's going on they were not driven by some slogan oh one more rapid yeah yeah the one more rep thing is a it's very embraced here in America yeah with meatheads which are my people the the thing about it is that you think that mental toughness is going to push you past your limits or what your perceived limits are and that that's where the real strength happens that's where the real growth takes place does have ayat that salve arey valid point for for you mentally not physically mentally but periodically this is very important point you

have to push the but push the body to the limit or the in competition or some other manner but for a short period of time and not too often that's very important you know who Ronnie Coleman is right yeah yeah Ronnie Coleman who was mr. Olympia just at one point in time one of the most impressive and spectacular physiques on earth is now so injured from all of his incredible lips he was known for lifting enormous enormous amounts of weight and I mean I think when they asked him about if we do anything different I

hope I'm not wrong but I think more than 11 back surgeries over the last few years he's essentially herniated every single disc in his back and a series of back operations it's left him walking with crutches and you know it's it's bad but this is the result of this sort of mindset of a champion you know that he was you're barred me I'm going to interrupt you for a second the champion has that mindset on the platform the champion whenever the champion is in the gym he or she is going to approach this as a

as a working man pretty much this is the plan this is what I do so you will find that absolutely in in sports you have to be extremely tough and you have to model some of that in training as well but in a very very careful time matter yeah so for instance top lifters stop power lifters they max twice a year had the Nationals and at the worlds meanwhile they train hard to push themselves to do everything right but they do not try to squeeze out one extra rep it just simply will not work it

does not work I remember having conversation with Andy Bolton and he is the first man to down lift 2,000 pounds and just speak tiger athlete if you watch Andy pulling competition is just just unbelievable it's a thing of beauty and I just Andy was telling me how how some lifters he have seen that would just simply try to hang with others better lifters in the gym and try to repeat exactly what they do and that's what happens after that nothing good happens from that you have to be tough when it's time and the gym you

have to do the plan and like for example let's talk about heavy lifting nope just heavy singles let's say if I'm sure everybody who listens to your program has at what point of their life decided to up their benchpress by going to a maximum once a week I'm sure everybody has I have you have everybody has how how long did it last typically six weeks for beginner and an advanced lifter might tolerate two or three weeks and that's about it so for whatever reasons after that you know your nervous system starts burning out your endocrine

system can't keep up and that's it so for that reason before the competition you might take like a 90% single a double or something like that and if you look at the longevity of power lifters and if you look at Langella T of the weight lifters of the Soviet school it's very impressive I'll give you one great example so well David rigored himself who was the champion around you know in the 70s so he is way he is probably pushing 70 right now you know lives in a farm works in the farm but he's Co

doing great very healthy but his coach that's that's any one more interesting story rudolf plukfelder he was probably the oldest to win the Olympics and weightlifting he was 36 and he worked in the mines in daytime and then train hard so look fantastically here so ethnically is German so one of the Germans living in the Soviet Union and eventually when the Soviet Union fell apart cook foods emigrated to Germany yeah a journalist came to visit him and so here's this really spry looking guy pulling her on in the garden and the Gerald is asking pardon

me sir may I speak to your dad so here's this guy who is almost 90 years old still looks about thirty years younger who still does jump squats with 90 kilos four sets of ten and this is an example so have your weights don't have the same longevity but does has more that does not have anything to do with the training system that has to do with the fact of the strain you put in your system by beating so much just not so good but this guys have longevity if you also look at the power

lifters most successful power lifters American power lifters antique owned competed for if I'm not mistaken about thirty years at the highest level from a very lightweight class to much heavier one and he stayed super healthy throughout he maybe had one injury and Eddie right now yours have a after retirement is very very healthy so you will find that the mentality of saving this I have the tiger for when it matters as opposed to treating every training day as a competition that makes a big difference for performance and longevity it just battles the mindset of always

do more always push harder always give your all leave everything in the gym thus this is the mindset that people have been sort of indoctrinated into correctly they think that hard work is what really matters but hard work doesn't matter but hard work can come in a lot of different it can manifest itself differently with that approach have worked with a guy like Ronnie Coleman because he's a bodybuilder so bodybuilders obviously you're not talking about competition and sense of being able to lift a lot of weight and you're talking about just mass acquiring mass well

you know the bodybuilders from the older era like Franco Columbu very sad that doctor Colombo passed recently but he was an exceptionally strong man a very healthy man he died swimming yeah but our tissue that has nothing to do it lifting so he was very health and very strong till the end and if you look at the guys of that generation they're you know they're doing great and if you look at other bodybuilders power power lifts let's say bodybuilders who have some kind of a power bodybuilding approach these guys have been around longer as well

if you look at the old-timers again Dave Draper this guy's name Oh Clara's best you know cleans baths sure okay super shredded Glarus is a friend of mine and Clarence is well let's put it this way he is not a spring chicken but he's got an absolutely spectacular physique he's still staying very strong other recent assembling yeah what how old is he now it's gotta be in the seventies right move pushing 80 possibly yeah there he is yeah but that's close he's awesome that guy's awesome that is crazy that picture of him lifting his shirt

up with this complete grandpa face and just super jacked body the guy's incredible yeah he knows how to push himself when you need to move himself yeah well he's very very intelligent that guy but old top athletes and lifters are very intelligent mmm there are some flukes but they don't last long right I see what you're saying yeah for longevity you sort of have to have that sort of intelligent approach so do you think a guy like Ronnie Coleman would have would be able to achieve the mass and the size and the way he was

built with a different strategy I can speculate I don't know but I can speculate but if you look at the muscle mass that have been achieved by heavyweight power lifters like Kurt Kowalski look up that guy Kurt kawatte scar w'iskey ke r w o sk i so if you see that type of development achieved by heavyweight power lifters then I don't see why not mm-hmm and bodybuilders have their own additional techniques they still have to do their stuff for their separation and whatever it is that you do but I think there's a very good chance

that you would have and if you look at the successful power like Mike O'Hearn for example that's a very strong guy he's a power bodybuilder there we go his car wash machines crossing the size of that [ __ ] guy yeah he looks like a body but look at the size of his legs that has done is ridiculous yeah and that guy just would not fuller with tech whatever deck and what-have-you PEC deck yeah you say that disdainfully that why don't you say there's a lot of people don't understand what's wrong with it [Applause]