"Brazil's Roswell" Still a Mystery More Than 25 Years Later

The Joe Rogan Experience so we're following and pleading with them all the way out there please just tell us please I swear on my life this happened he gets in the car door's open he looks up and the only reason why I'm telling you this because he died he looks up at Marco and I and he goes it happened close the door and off he went now the reason why I share that is because that's not something that I can put any weight on for the documentary for people like you right but as a personal

message for me knowing that level of validation on the inside it kept us going it was like okay why on Earth would he have done that why on Earth would he say and that kept Marco and I going and that was a personal level of validation that is there any conventional explanation why the military shut everything down why they had military barricades set up around that area no they did try to say that the creature was this guy who got like some deformities um but I've seen the guy Modine or something like that but you

talk to the witnesses why would the why would the military yeah I know I'm down because a guy and then deformities and then for the doctors in the hospital they said oh there was a like a [ __ ] having a baby or something weird just something that was just so ridiculous it was like and you talk to the witnesses and they're just like oh come on I'm not gonna you know that's laughable at best you know I mean these girls came within eight to ten feet three three women Katya two sisters liliani and valkyria

14 16 and 21 they got within eight to ten feet in broad daylight of this creature and one of the things that doesn't come across in the film when they saw this thing they're looking like what are we looking at here they're walking through this field and it's up against a cinder block wall and one of them was looking at this what is that and it was crouched by the wall it was weak and feeble and one of them kind of like screeched nah like what is that and it turned and it looked right at

the girls locked eyes on them Liliana grabs her younger daughter to her younger sister who's 14 valkyria and makes a high tails that out of there Katya is 21. she's Frozen in her tracks locked eyes with this creature and is communicating with her please help me he wants help it's we it's weak and it's feeble and it's scared and it's crouched down liliani realizes that Katya is back there she gets I don't know 100 feet down the path she leaves her sister stay here I'm going back to get Katya she runs back and I asked

Katya and I asked all the girls during that moment of contact when you lock eyes I know it's only a brief second but during that moment of contact what did you feel like put me there that's where the title comes from moment of contact because that was when they locked eyes on this creature and that's when Katya said help me I'm scared and it was feeble and suffering and it's it's a very powerful moment and and and these girls have been saying the same thing the mother it's the first time I'd ever reported on these

so-called like men in dark suits that show up and intimidate Witnesses see honestly I've been hearing about those cases for so many times but I've avoided them because it's got so much baggage from Men In Black it just it's just ridiculous I just didn't want to be associated with it but I'd heard it I can go on until I'm blue in the face I go until tomorrow morning with the amount of cases with generals too but this time when the mother said that these men showed up and tried to get the daughters to say they

were lying and offered her a briefcase full of 100 bills and they could relocate um I don't know for some reason I said okay for the first time in 25 years I'm going to report on these guys and I did and it's in the movie you can hear the mother talking about it and she's so emotional and the mother comes back to the location where it happened the smell that stench and the footprint on the ground I mean everybody talks about that stench that was so they said if you take like a a skunk multiply

that by like a hundred thousand that would give you some indication of the level of like how putrid and nasty was paralyzing and it stayed in like it stayed in the areas like at the hospitals when they did the x-rays and everybody talks about it that stench though it's unbelievable like it fills your navel cavities and doesn't leave for a week it was incredible and they all said the same thing and they couldn't get it out they couldn't get it out yeah they sanitized the hospital the guy said that he had to close off that

Wing in the hospital while they were sanitizing it because it was so intense you know so I I how long did it last for I heard days and weeks is what I heard from people and and even the mother said when she when she went to where the creature was she said that the stench even there after the creature was gone got in her nasal cavities and she tried to flush it out with water and saline or whatever and and and uh she couldn't get it out of her nasal cavities really crazy but they all

did I mean everybody talked about that stench you know I mean the military officer the guy that drove the creature around I was sitting across from him you can't see his face but I did and I'm looking this guy in the eyes I'm thinking I could be looking at a guy that drove a [ __ ] alien around you have no idea dude you have no idea how did he describe when I came back from that trip people were like how was your trip to Brazil what was it like man they got great you know

uh smoothies and coffee and I'm just like you guys have no idea I think I think an alien spaceship crashed and they recover live aliens and we made contact and the Americans came in that's what I'm thinking about so I told a couple people on the last trip I came back I was just like I was so rocked I couldn't re I couldn't reintegrate back into culture it was Joe I was just like I think this happened it's the biggest story ever so people were asking me even my neighbor who runs like the he runs

that Make-A-Wish Foundation he was like James he goes bro I like you a lot I got a lot of respect for you but you lost me on this one and I was like I don't blame you bro I really don't but listen to the witnesses just that's all I say just and and I would tell people and I realized I can't talk about it all I can say is just listen to the witnesses don't take it from me but I'ma look into that guy in the eyes Joe and I've been at this for 30 years

I've made almost I'm working on my seventh film right now I'm looking this guy in the eyes and I'm like this guy probably trip me out so and it ruined his life he's he's to get this guy to go on camera just like a week earlier he was like I don't care all the money in the world I'm never coming forward the risks are too high how did it ruin his life because you're harboring this secret you're being watched you're being told not to ever talk about this and you're looking over your shoulder all the

time and they call you the military calls you periodically they want to know where you are and he's got this Secret inside him that he can't tell the rest of the world and he's thinking about all the different everyone's out there speculating is it real is it fake is it real fake and this guy drove a body around just think about that for a second think about the doctor who took the x-rays of this thing Marco Leal thank you Marco you're you're the man Marco Lao found him eight years ago and he was like he

confirmed the story he was still working a regional hospital he goes I'll never come forward Marco kept going every year back and forth and he retired and four years after he retired he agreed to meet with us he wasn't even sure he was going to go on and I said look man we'll put you we'll film you from the back we'll disguise your voice showed us photographs of him at the hospital we know we've he's been we've been trying to get at him excuse me at the end of the interview he said thank you I

feel so much better I've been shouldering that burden for 26 years and I've so desperately wanted to tell somebody to share that story with the rest of the world and you meet these people and you think why on Earth they didn't come to us they're not trying to sell their story We tracked them down and begged and pleaded with them to come forward when I found Martha the sister of the deceased military officer Marco charizi we were knocking on doors I remember the sound guy from from Rio de Janeiro he was like you're out of

your mind what are you doing can't just knock on random doors I was like man if there's a will there's a way I'm gonna find this lady and we found her and it was like this kind of kind of sketchy area you know it's like when you when you get out of your car and you could see like people drawing the curtains back and looking at you and you're standing out like dude I still like a sore thumb man and then we walked up and I had Marco with me thank God we had camera Crews

and stuff it's kind of sketchy and uh Marta appears and her husband appears in this big she's a big guy and he's got like a wife beater shirt on and he looks like he wants to rip my [ __ ] head off and I'm like and she's looking at me and he's just looking at her going March is looking Martin's looking at her husband and her husband's looking at Marshall like give me the signal I'll kill this guy that's the [ __ ] and I was looking at Marco and I was like James you need

to think quick think quick on your feet right now and I said immediately please translate this I'm here to give your brother Justice I'm here to get the story out please talk to me and we developed a relationship with her slowly over that and those are the first words that we exchanged and we eventually got her to come forward we talked she'd gone forward in the past but she doesn't know who the hell I am I want to take you back to the doctor okay what when you talk to the doctor what did he describe

he said that that it was a normal day January 1996 it was a regional hospital every day and all of a sudden all these military trucks and police cars showed up at the hospital they come in armed and they got a bag they got a a thing in a black body bag and uh he was like what the hell's going on here that are you going to be taking some X-rays and he's like okay and uh and they had him inside and they had armed gloves and I was asking him like what was it like

because I when I when I interview Witnesses I always want them I always ask them to project like I sometimes I'll even close my eyes because I'll use their words to recreate so I'm like living it through them you know what I mean so I'll close my eyes and I'll recreate the scenes in my head with their words right it's harder in Portuguese because I'm having to get it translated but I ask questions like what was the atmosphere like was there any talking no talking super tense atmosphere very tense arm guards on the outside arm

guards on the inside military trucks running nobody comes nobody goes and he said I first time in my history in the history of my career I took the x-rays and I couldn't even verify that they were good because they took them immediately and then they said this event never happened he said the stench in the hotel in the in the hospital was overwhelming and he goes through the different uh x-rays that he took the abdomen the head the arms the legs the thorax you know and uh it was incredible in fact Uber Rodriguez if you're

listening to this he's one of the leading researchers he's gone quiet pekachini disappeared for 20 years did he get to see images himself did he get to see them by himself oh he saw that he was right well they didn't open the body bag but he was he was he said the stench was just overwhelming so they x-rated through the body they x-rated through the body bag so he never got to see he did not see the alien and he didn't get to see the x-ray images or anything nope they wouldn't let him see a

damn thing nope now there were two doctors there was a guy named Roger Lear Roger Lear found out these are people that I really want to meet I mean people are coming forward in droves right now we just got two forensic Pathologists for the first time ever working together to come forward to make statements and they're providing documentation of the of the autopsy reports done on the deceased military officer that's the first time ever these guys are coming forward it's happening right now let's explain what happened to people who haven't watched the documentary to the

deceased military officer yeah so so right after the three girls came and came within eight to ten feet of this creature or being or entity or E.T whatever you want to call it about an hour later that was about three o'clock in the afternoon I would say probably maybe around five o'clock there were two military guys on Patrol on the lookout for something unusual what they were told they didn't say a UFO had crashed they were on lookout for something highly unusual and it was Eric Lopes at the wheel and Marco shriezi military police in

the passenger seat they were about a block and a half to two blocks away from where the girls had seen the creature a couple of hours earlier and this thing runs across the car in front of them he had slammed his brakes on and without a moment's hesitation Marco Cherise jumps out of the car and grabs the thing with his bare hands yeah and he puts it in the back seat and they drive it to a clinic and the doctor is like what the hell is that get it out of here I don't know what

you know leave so they went to Regional Hospital and then ultimately I went to humanitas hospital and so we have testimony from military acts that when he drove it from humanitas hospital it's in the movie but he drove it from the humanitas hospital to uh as a military base where it spend the night in the truck for one night and then it went from there to espysex Campinas it's like a university it's where all the intellectual scientific heavyweights reside and then it was there I think under examination according to the witnesses that we talked to

for a day or two and that's when the Americans flew in to Campinas and we have the radar military control officer who came forward last year actually two years ago when we were there filming for the last time his name is Marco fedes f-e-r-e-s and he came forward for the first time and he said yeah in January of 1996 this plane came in USAF he kept calling it United States Air Force came in it didn't have the authorization of the Brazilian government he was like this thing can't land and some higher up stepped in the

room this is all this is his testimony I'm just relaying what he said he said some higher came in the room and said let it land and it came and it landed at Campinas and then from Campinas two helicopters according to him flew to Virginia Brazil Virginia back to Campinas then they loaded us up in on the airplane and then off to the United States and that's where the case goes called