A Negação de Pedro | René Girard

foreign [Music] is probably one of the greatest seeks of the Gospels not only in terms of literature you know some people say all the gospels are do not have these great stories like the Judgment of Solomon or the Joseph story and so forth and they would say not there is Peterson which is in a way the most beautiful story Peter is all mad there Peter is old man men cannot resist men cannot resist the memory contagious when you're in a crowd you become literally possessed by the crown possessed by the crown [Music] the gospels were

the one of the things they do from an anthropological Viewpoint is to show you that the crowd spirit is all-powerful that only Jesus can conquer [Music] [Music] is all powerful after Jesus that it's a real power on Earth since it can conquer even Peter even Peter [Music] which is a pretty disturbing if you regard it as a prophecy too of what would happen at the last time which it may well be you know because right now that's what we are seeing when people tell you the Christianity must be modern and follow the spirit of the

time what do they say follow the crowd follow advertising follow what else could they say follow the crowd you see that's why I think we must refrain from following that spirit and listening to these voices however pious this sound you see because Peter's denial is absolutely the amazing thing Peter when he hears the crowd there is one of the gospels that makes it very clear that tells us that the servant is Young and she says another thing which in My Views seem very important she says anyway I recognize you because you have that Galilean accent

which is in popular in Jerusalem in other words you're a kind of Foreigner you're not even one of us you know you're a stranger so what does Peter do he wants to show he's one of them and the only way you show your part of a crowd is to join in scapegory foreign enemy you have I am one of yours so you really have you know in a very subtle way indications of what the incentives are for Peter which are universally human that's why we must not say oh Peter is a special case he he

betrays Jesus there because he's a weak individual really I don't think it's just the representative of all the apostles sits is the head you see so I think it's a scene which is absolutely priceless there is no sociology [Music] and revelation of what living together does to human beings you see how come we all have the ideas of our time how you know not so many centuries ago everybody automatically breathed in God you didn't mean much today automatically No One Believes In God but it's purely in mob phenomena purely in mob phenomena it's not because

they are powerful scientific arguments you know it's Peter's denial that's all it is the picture scenario is infinitely more powerful to tell you about what Society is you know than any other things then at the same time the idea that Peter doesn't know what he's doing is extremely important in other words he's denying not unconsciously but he's unconscious of what he's really doing that's why maybe the most beautiful thing is the ending because in order to show unconscious we see words like unconscious they don't mean much but the gospels know very well how to represent

very directly very understandably that unconscious all they tell you all they have to tell you and then the was heard the was heard and it reminds Peter of where he had conveniently forgotten which was that Jesus had predicted the very thing that has been happening and here you can see that the prediction of Jesus is not some kind you know of what should I say of divine inspiration but it's also his human knowledge he understands human communities infinitely better than all these guys then he knows that Peter is going to find himself in a situation

of connective pressure of more pressure in which we did not so all we have to do is to see the clock crowd and Peter started to cry Peter suddenly it was not the unconscious in the sense of right he had put it out of his mind but the reminded him and there it was so there is one gospel only which does it in a different way which is less picture less but which is the same thing which is the Gospel of Luke that has Jesus meet Peter on his way you know because he's in the

courtyard and and looked at it he only has to look at Peter and Peter understands it's the same as the car it's a second conversion for Peter and they see conversion very similar to false conversion because what Peter discovered is that exactly the same thing as Paul but Paul hears from the mouth of Christ why do you persecute me in other words what Peter hears from Jesus is you've joined the people are crucified [Music] even you you know and you've done it in the most natural unconscious way possible without being aware that you are a

kind of criminal you're not anywhere you are and you are not because you just behave like everybody else men cannot resist to the medic Contagion [Music] thank you