Memecoin Millionaire: How to Get RICH with Memecoins in 2025

what's the shortterm most you've made in like a day and the most you've made like long-term holding whatever it was okay so like within like almost a few minutes I made almost half a million dollars how much you put in like $2,000 how much money do you make seven figures seven figures a year yes a month how old are you I'm 21 you're 21 yes what do you do I make content on YouTube I trade crypto I run a trading platform form I do a whole lot of things what's your trading platform called uh potion

potion yeah okay crypto trading yes mem coins are all the rage this year yes are mem coins gambling that's my question that's your question it can be yeah it can be um I don't think so though explain I mean there's a specific reason why like it's the same people winning over and over again right if it was gambling it wouldn't be right so there's an edge to game there is an edge to game skill based gambling okay so I'll set the frame here you are you've killed it with memec coin trading you've been in the

crypto space for a long long time did you used to be an Esports Pro before this yes fortnite yes so you were professional fortnite player before this but it seemed there has been like a trend of professional for fortnite players killing it in meme coins I Saw's been killing it fortnite runs the meme coins yeah it's crazy but this year it's all about meme coins and there seems to be be like an actable strategy and Edge that you can develop you were really successful then you created your group called potion which is a paid Discord

community on [ __ ] that actually just teaches people how to trade meme coins and you built all these different tools I assume on top of well it started out as tools like we just um I was using a lot of things a lot of different tools to help me get an edge and I just put them on to a Discord put like a $20 payate behind it um and it grew into something much much bigger and we just started SC from there okay cool so I want to start with trading like the strategy to

trading meme coins with I guess first and then we'll go into the actual business that you've created because that's also really doing really well for you um so let's basically I want to start with like what were those initial tools and what are the different types of tools that help you trade yeah and then I want to go through the actual like what's the process of trading meme coins these days because a lot has changed since I've been involved in crypto last two or three years so like number one Edge number one tool that I

was using for now everyone uses it I mean I'm the one that made it public actually um which a lot of people don't like me for a lot of like the good Traders are against me you know giving out I guess um a lot of it started off with like Twitter trackers right like you would get really important notifications from different people like Ela musk whoever may be that may have tweeted some like funny picture some meme some slogan some I mean sometimes if you were tracking like certain crypto people they would tweet out like

specific meme coins like contract addresses of coins and if you were the first person to catch it I mean it would pump and Skyrocket so so just track tweets like the millisecond they came out before they even like hit the Twitter notification yeah like that was like number one Edge for months so it was literally just would you have to track the account first yeah you would have to specify what account you wanted tweeted uh you wanted to track like for example over the summer Andrew Tate was like crazy on on uh CT I'll be

saying that word a lot it's crypto Twitter okay um like he was really really popular tweeting out like ca's meme coin so tracking his Twitter and as soon as he would post a meme coin we would automatically buy it uh and there were tons of people like this route all of CT this last year that we were tracking so a simple form of This Is MeMe coins is basically just the price is it I really like the culture of meme coins because it's like people are kind of stopping pretending that there's like utility or like

a product behind it which is like a really big like manipulation tactic people did in the last bull run where it seems like everyone has just accepted that Meme coins kind of just like this like Hot Potato game but there is like if you are really deep in Internet culture there are like memes that are like just iconic throughout Decades of Internet history and so there seems like there is kind of like the systematic like different strategies you could use to kind of catch what is a real meme coin that's going to hit the culture

and go like blow up to hundreds of millions dollars in market cap versus just like someone trying to it's it's weird like there's like the subjective like actually is a real thing in a way but you're saying that at the beginning it's just like being the first one to gain access to this information about a popular figure tweeting a meme or a reference yeah so there's a big difference to what people to uh what like viewers probably know as meme coins they probably you know like these big multi-million billion dollar market cap coins like Dogecoin

Sheba I'm trading like pump fund coins pump fund is this crypto application where you can make a meme coin for literally free on your phone and it gets released so I'm seeing like you know hundreds of meme coins being created every minute and I'm just looking at this list all day until something pops up um I want you to imagine a scenario where Elon Musk tweets out a picture of his dog and he names the dog Rowdy right and Elon posts a picture hey I just got this dog Rowdy I want you to imagine a

screen where you're just seeing a ton of meme coins being created of this dog Rowdy like that's like you know where that Twitter tracker comes into play that's where all these different tools come into play as well um so it's almost like when a person of influence or a well-known person says something and if it come becomes a memeable moment people are throwing out five different coins and if it's actually going to be like a it's almost like you're investing in this actually becoming a verified meme on the internet almost so you're just investing in

attention economies like how long can things last an example was like um there a [ __ ] up example but like Luigi the guy did that thing like his meme coin when that first happened you know skyrocketed uh obviously you know it'll go down and stuff after people don't talk about it um Peanut the squirrel when peanut you know got kidnapped it went to a few million but when peanut got killed and it was going to be all over the news peanut went to billions it got listed on coinbase binance whoa and like I was

in peanut since 100K market cap like the second it came out I mean people were buying peanut like I have a crazy tweet we like uh I'm literally like Shilling peanut at 100K it's crazy so it's almost like a reflection of how viral something goes in the mly what like the pump on trenches which is what we call like we don't call it trading meme coins it's called The Trenches uh that is what trenches is like which one of these meme coins has the best chance at going Baro best chance of being talked about like

um people are always trying to front run like Elon Musk potentially talking about something we've seen this happened so many times like there was a a hamster um Fight Club uh meme coin that was like done by some like Harvard students or whatever the case was and people thought like the story had just come out and people were like damn might talk about this it's the type of thing he talks about and all my friends bought this like you know under $5 million market cap and Elon tweets it elon's like what the [ __ ]

this is so weird and it's skyrockets 50 mil they all make a 10x on whatever they put in like it's very attention based so it's almost like you're if you're like online 24/7 in the trenches you could see like the first seedlings or come up with like a hypothesis like some relevant person might make this a thing yeah you'll never miss out bro the game is like being chronically online and having like the best tools like you know tracking the best wallets um there's so many different things that goes into it but yeah honestly trading

mem coins has just how long can you be online and dedicated for for the last year of my life from like March up until maybe October no no up until like the end of November um I took a break for December it was the holidays and stuff like that but from March to December I basically never left my room like I was just like fully in the TR because it's all just about if how fast you get the information and how early do you buy compared to everybody else and could be like 2 days long

tops if that bro I'm us I don't really hold things like longer than a few hours like that's that's insane I I've made like insane amount of money in like minutes um I'll give you an example Steve will do it my Twitter he tweeted out a contract address and I bought it as soon as he tweeted out it was at 3 million I put um a few thousand in at like 3 four million it went up to 80 million I made like 100 Grand in 10 minutes what's the most you made on one meme coin

uh in like like long-term like quick like what do you mean just in general yeah what's give me both what's the short-term most you made in like a day and the most youve made like long-term holding whatever it was okay so like within like almost a few minutes I made almost half a million dollars how much you put in like $2,000 2,000 to half a million in a few minutes but this is different this isn't like trading meme coins it was called sniping like basically there's a really really hyped launch going on and I was

friends with like the best snipers on chain I gave him some my money he was like pulling a lot of money together we sniped we hit the first transaction the first Buy on that coin we hit and I mean so is sniping like basically you have a bot that like a new contract address is getting minted and then you just have like an automatic bot that's like anytime there's a new contract you have to like set requirements or is it just like yeah you set requirements like how much like gas feed you want to waste

and all that you're competing against other snipers essentially it is that like in the nft days yeah yeah so literally just right when a contract is minted automatically buy at this rate basically pretty much and then you just happen to hit one that happened to I mean I've sniped hundreds of tokens and it was just that one that like really got me hooked it's definitely just like casting the widest net possible a lot of small bets now it's super like oversaturated and people have so much money that like the gas fees they'll run are like

hundreds of thousands wow just for sniping even um one of the best Traders on chain he's going to watch this uh profit he spent $200,000 on just the fee to buy $30,000 of a token and he made a mill off of it so his like over on net profit was like over 800 Grand Wild free market is regulating like that in crypto that's very interesting so this is like basically what you're talking about how like when you were early on you were making these tools and these were different strategies you could have deploy to kind

of get an edge in the market basically so sniping is one of them like a year ago yeah it was super more profitable now it's like you're competing against people spending $200,000 fees imagine you're the guy that spent $190,000 on a fee you just got cooked yeah and and the meme dies interesting I saw k money he he uh he put me on by the way to what meme coins he he's the meme coin goat I remember when I met him he had like $300,000 in Doge like last bull run it was nuts dude but

he's really played this well but I remember like literally he tweeted that it was like kius Maximus because he predicted that Elon was going to change his profile picture to the meme how did he predict that do you know I do not know how he predicted it but I mean elon's a predictable guy when it comes to memes uh Elon changed his profile picture in his Twitter username to kikus Maximus that Meme went from zero literally zero brother I saw it get made I was looking it went all the way to 300 million you want

to know what happened when Elon changed his profile picture zero zero so just about knowing when to sell basically I mean the mo like our Twitter tracker would tell you Elon changed his pfb I had that tweet out bro that candle was a literal 300 mil candle to like less than 100 Mil like it was people lost a lot of money so crazy and Elon has done this a few times like he changed his pfp to a dark Maga version of Elon like I mean Elon is like the crypto biggest K interesting K meaning key

opinion leader which is like the fancy word for influencer yeah I learned that one recently so okay this is so interesting so you're going to pump. fun and you're just looking at all these different coins and you're trying to just like kind of map the attention economy like what is going to be relevant what could be like an extremely viral multimedia moment that goes mainstream that's literally I mean I at the basic level yeah that's it I don't use pump. fun because that's like a slow version of trading but that's the platform where you can

make the coin there's like a bunch of different trading Bots I use Nova personally Nova Nova what does Nova do it's like a it's like the best trading platform in my opinion so it's a platform it's like an ex where you can buy and sell pump funds it's like a I mean it's not an exchange you can't buy like Solana cryp is it like I'm Photon bulex Photon bulex okay is it like uh what was blur BL was an nft Marketplace uh yeah sure yes you kind of like that I'm dated broet checked out okay

so Nova what can you do on Nova other than just buy and sell like there a lot of different tools yeah Buy sell snipe um you can do anything I mean anything that any other trading bot can do but I think it's the fastest so interesting okay so where you're actually doing all this is on Nova yeah yeah is this all salana yes this is all salana based are so for the Twitter tracker are there any accounts that you are specifically following Elon uh Elon anom like all the big Twitter guys so crypto Twitter guys

yeah who who are big right now who's Big like who who are the goats right now yeah you know like the probably nothing boys like you know thread guy F Banks Frank um is Kobe tweeting Kobe oh my God I mean he's like obviously whenever he interacts with a me coin it [ __ ] goes crazy he's gone he's like just not he's retired though but he actually um he got sent supply of a meme coin he burned it and the meme coin went to 100 Mil so like Kobe's got hella pull M he's a

goat tjr he's not super loved in like the trenches but like a who do the trenches idolize I need to hear it who do they idolize I mean or who's like who's like s tier in the S tier in the trenches like the good Traders like profit like cubsy um Cordy like just like the lowkey thread guy Frank they're more K's okay right so it's different like we ID like people idolize them as like creators and KS and Frank is a really good traitor um but like when we're talking about like onchain skills like who

are the best it's like you know it's po it's profit it's cooker it's like the same people you can actually check uh there's like a leaderboard we have one as well in potion where you can check like the top Traders every day and they're trading from their main wallets for this I mean even if people try to get on new wallets eventually figure them out that's crazy okay so this is all making sense to me pump fund launches tokens on when the tokens launch you're kind of trying to pay attention to how much attention it's

going to gather throughout crypto Twitter ascends to the mainstream how big can it get the bigger it gets the bigger the market cap like mudang remember mudang Hipp that's a crypto that went crazy but now no one talks about mudang mudang fell off M off I telling my girlfriend this two days ago actually that's funny yeah my and one of my friends polar he lost like 400 Grand in mudang cuz he thought it was going to go ballistic see this is where it like feels like gambling right cuz like you do gambling on how much

attention can it get yeah but there is like a strategy and an edge to like being able to identify what will go viral like do you have the intuition for that and bro a lot of my trades are like really minuscule and like the grand scheme of things like I made I've made over a million dollars publicly on a wallet where my biggest trade wasn't even over 100k in profits like I'm scalping here for like 1K 2K 10K Max like I'm getting in so early on narratives that like by the time the non-experienced trenchers see

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special bonus get 20% off when you sign up with my exclusive Link in the description below thank you for sponsoring today's episode this is all making sense you are buying them on pump fund you're using a platform called Nova you're paying attention to key opinion leaders and other traders in the trenches you're looking at their wallets all these different information flows but how are you able to find these narratives early like where by yeah I mean by using a trading platform by NOA because you can see every coin that's coming out so like you just

stare at it all day like are you in groups with other Traders are you on Twitter like looking like yeah what would be like a signal to be like out of all the hundred that just launched in the last hour that's the one I'm going to put $2,000 into right yeah groups help a lot right like a group like potion pastel shocked whatever obviously my private group like with my friends where we're just like all doing the same thing that's like an edge that no one can replicate like you are all looking at the same

stuff and you know if something's being talked about in different chats like you know you can't miss it with a lot of people yeah at the end of the you're just trying to figure out if a lot of people will buy this and if you're in a group of a lot of people that's already like some sort of sort of like her mentality and that's like the hardest thing right cuz like anyone who wants to get started has trouble finding people to trade with but do you think it's like you're young you're 21 a lot

of these people in the meme coins are in their 20s they're online 247 do you think that there's some sort of like intuition of like internet kids that like internet kids are running the meme coin trenches what Edge do they have like what is it about I know if it's like being chronically online growing up but like I profit the guy I told you about he's like 17 years old yeah so so it's like just like this you grew up on Tik Tok you've instilled a little brain rot in your brain I guess bro like

that's actually how I think it's like the attention span of knowing like I'm going to get in and out super quick like a lot of these like older people in the trenches I see a lot of them like become community members fall in love with tokens I don't know if that's cuz like their attention spans aren't cooked and they can focus on a coin for a long time but like I feel like all these like really young trenches are just like in and out super quick they they can't even focus on a coin for five

minutes and so it's like their attention span is the actual their Norm is actually how like the lifespan of the market is behaving in a way and so they're just like in tune with it there's so many coins coming out like you got to pop this up on the screen of like just 10 seconds on like a trading platform you're going to see like hundreds of coins coming out oh my God so I'm picturing that if I'm in the trenches I'm online chronically online 24/7 like I'm doing this seriously I have a I have six

screens one screen is all the communities I'm in like Discord groups or DMS on Twitter I have six screens by the way yeah okay three three okay what is it what are the six screens okay okay I have on my top okay my top three are all Discord I have Discord groups from left to right then my Spotify on the top right bottom left I have the call that I'm in with my friends shout out Pioneer and then my two telegram Alpha chats that I'm in which are like more private groups uh my main trading

platform my CT tracker which is like where I'm tracking Twitter my wallet tracker and then um a telegram bot Nova to like start running sniping like any Snipes if I need to is there any AI you're sprinkling in here or is that not is that we're not there yet okay not there yet okay so Discord groups yep telegram groups what's the difference between those two or just same uh the Discord groups I'm in are like pretty more public the telegram groups I'm in are usually like smaller chats of like just hardcore TR there like 20

people proba it's like your actual like team you're doing it with basically but then the Discord groups are stuff you can just join publicly and kind groups yeah you're trying to survey what is like the of course I'm in so many different groups bro that I've paid so much money for that like if they're all talking about the same narrative I'm pretty sure it's kind of so you're just looking for a pattern like what is everybody talking about right now and you're looking at Nova to see what coins coming out and just like it's like

just like ready to click so perfect example is um when Doge so the owner of Doge some you know lady Asian lady she got another dog what do you think is happening there oh my God it's Doge 2.0 you know cuz Doge died rip kabuso um and and this do this dog was called Nero now I'm looking at all these chats everyone's talking about Nero that's the name this Nero coin goes from zero to like hundreds of millions right there and that like fed the entire trenches I that's like a generational coin PVE everyone ate

everyone people retired and then we just had the biggest one ever Trump coin you know we saw Trump as soon as it came out that was crazy that fed the trenches like I mean people were tired I'm you're laughing but I'm serious and and I didn't buy it I actually I saw your tweets RP bro major cope um it happens I just didn't think it was real it's so hard to think that that's real yeah I would agree I thought the same thing like I thought he got hacked yeah even if he got hacked though

it's not that big of a risk you're s like you're going to get hacked if you just buy the token no no no I just thought like I'm I'm going to lose money buying the token yeah yeah it's like a 20 minutes later there's gonna be like an announcement yeah but some of my friends you know retired like I have a friend that made almost $40 million on Trump that's so crazy bro and they actually like delete their account you never hear from them again actually he's still trading every day but I I can't believe

it I don't know why you're doing this Sim the dean in the blood so so when you're in all these groups like there's like actually like so let's use the the Dogecoin owner example yeah like that comes out does that come like how did you find out that she had a new dog she tweeted it she just like some like article in her native language I don't know if it's like Japanese or whatever so she does she know that her first dog was the Creator so she knows that she created this did she launch the

coin no so she just unbeknownst to the like she just like posted this wholesomely like I have a new dog rip my dog and so you're going to basically you're in these six chats and you see like on chat on the screen bottom left you see this lady's dog just died the founder of Doge the icon of Doge's dog just died she's got a new one this is gonna this could be a meme this could be a me and then you see chat chat on the top right saying Yep this is going to be the

next big meme you see two other points data and you're like okay I need to go then go to Nova and be like this there's something here let's see if there's a token what happens if there's four tokens okay that's actually super common that's what we call PVP and this specific token was what invented PVP because there were so many different neros which is the name of the dog that were running that were doing good and this is the first token that ever created P I mean it just matters honestly who's behind the token like

what cabal is in right it matters which one was the first one which one's got the best picture and name I think nowadays we're we're kind of more accustomed to just buy the first one okay so but those are interesting variables one you say the cabal so like what group of 20 or 30 people in a telegram or Twitter DM that have maybe the most influence on Twitter combined they're not necessarily the creators but like they like have the most they're the cabal bro this a real thing I mean they have the power behind it

to get the initial liquidity it's like it's like like whatever like establish itself as the leader becomes a leader and so being first is an advantage having the most influence the most K's behind it is an advantage cuz there's going to have 10x more liquidity in the coin or the quality of the photo the description the name it's clean the ticker whatever it is exacts the vi is right exactly you got to think like which one of these can get listed on coinbase and binance so usually yeah it's interesting there's like te there's probably like

teams of people that are like launching coins and they have this like Playbook down I mean yes is that legal to do like I've always I don't think anyone knows I don't know I guess everything's legal now at this presidency me Trump made a meme coin so we should make one right now that's he does have the power to pardon I guess but not Financial advice we have to say those in these conversations don't we so that is very fascinating so you kind of just like are trying to see this meme come to life and

see it across different groups of people who are like in the trenches and these people have a lot of liquidity so like you know they can move the needle are there any groups you'd recommend being in other than potion Alpha on wap.com I can only show potion Alpha on wap.com okay potion off on wap.com endorsed but then like these telegram groups I remember this is something that you kind of have to like build up your crew over oh yeah people ask me this all the time like how do I even because yeah you can join

potion you can join these paid groups but then you're still not finding your mojo like your close-nit group of friends like how do you get into these telegram group chats and that's personal brand comes in bro like you want to get into these good group chats and prove yourself as a Trader go on these leaderboards and grind your way up and meet people be nice to people I mean there's a kid polar who's like 16 and a few months ago he had H like hit me up non-stop I gave him one Soul he lost it

all and he just hit like a million dollar a month a few months ago it is such a Vibe man you're just like you and your like five friends chilling in a voice chat all day trying to do the same thing like playing fortnite bro you're just like playing squads yeah and you're just literally like just sharing information like oh I saw this on Twitter you're looking at six chat he's looking at six different chats correct correct you're communicating each other like you're calling out someone's to your left correct yeah that's so interesting and like

there's like thousands of people trying to do the same thing in hopes of like thousands of other people like on CT seeing it one CT sees it like okay are they going to go on board like retail like this like an endless cycle exactly so there's like layers it's like first it's in your telegram or Discord group of like 20 people we're the first right like anyone watching pump fun is first yes it's like and then in the you go you explain it yeah and then it's like okay anyone like for example like right now

after this podcast I'm going to go to my telegram group chat see if I missed anything you know it's been two hours bro yeah it's been two hours like maybe Trump got a C you know I'm going to top blast this so like then comes like the the people who are going to buy after this French has found it and then you know people are going to start talking about it on Twitter and then people are going to start talking about it on regular social media and then how big does it get are they going

to start listing it on coinbase and binance are they going to talk about it on the news yeah so that's the level it's telegram then like Discord then crypto Twitter of Traders and then broader Twitter and then from there it could go mainstream mainstream or die or die it could go to the New York Times is like the very last level of this yeah I mean interesting I mean bro I don't think there is the last level because I thought that on Pina I was like how much bigger can Pina get and then we had

Trump endorsing the [ __ ] squirrel like this mascot of patri celebrities like the Final Exit liquidity that's you know you're at the top yeah celebrities is like a pretty good indicator so go like Twitter then you go like Tik Tok Instagram or whatever and then it would go mainstream media don't you remember like CH guy yeah of course okay iconic now all those trenchers thing super on in on chill guy and then it got to like this Tik Tok interesting so interesting I'm starting to understand the game are there any other like strategies you

mentioned sniping you mentioned paying attention to Nova what signals are happening inside of like like what is potion Alpha like actually half I mean pretty much everything right like let's say you don't want to be looking at the trenches all day cuz bro is like exhausting physically and mentally you know you can have like all these different tools open to kind of help alleviate the job for you you have your water trackers open and if you see you know the same good people you know copsy cooker whatever buying the same token take a look at

the token um same thing with like tracking Twitter like just leave it open on the screen or there's so many different tools bro like alerts that like certain coins hitting certain market caps you can set your own alert like you want to get alerted whenever a coin hits a mill market cap okay so anytime new coin from pump fun or whatever hits a million you get a notification yeah I mean you can really set whatever you want you can yeah and okay so this is a lot like back in the day but tools were really

rudimentary so hit this market cap signal these five wallets who I know are really good traders who have been known for getting early signal Twitter feed if someone mentions a meme signal y big person Elon Musk tweet signal and you're sitting there like hearing all these pings and just trying to process and see the correlations and that's your Edge essentially uh you know sometimes there's a Dev wallet that made a really good coin like the same Dev that deployed mudang maybe deployed another coin we have a signal for that the um maybe we're seeing the

same coin being deployed 10 times in a row maybe there's a hype launch about to happen signal um what else what else I'm trying to think of like everything we have in our Discord I think a lot of it is like mainly tracking social medias we track like true social for example that's where Trump initially posted the meme coin we're tracking certain Instagram posts certain Tik Tok pages um tracking how many times a hashtag gets used oh super big uh we're able to track if a Twitter profile has been reused so like for example a

lot of these people will like scam like there's a lot of like AI projects nowadays A lot of them will scam and then you know reuse the same Twitter page change the app uh and we can do like SL scam and it'll say that specific page has ever tweeted out a pump fun before um gotcha so people will buy Twitter accounts with like 100,000 followers on it change the url or change the handle change the profile Rebrand it and you're just making sure cuz if that's a that's a sign that if they've launched one coin

before they're just they're scammer because they're going to laun another and another and another lit that's their system that's so smart what other like things are there to look out for like that like or like straight up don't do um I mean obviously like I think following people on Twitter is very very important sometimes uh we actually potion built a Chrome extension to kind of give you um an idea of who like key people are so I follow 10,000 people on Twitter not cuz I want to but because when I go on a project I

want to see what my mutuals are that's super important if you're not following anyone on Twitter and you're going to like you know on crypto Twitter how there's a lot of like these like botted fake influencers right yeah if you're new to the space you go on someone's twitter they have 500k followers they tweeted out a CA has a thousand likes botted Comics but you can't tell you're going to buy and then they rug you yeah but if you're following like 10,000 of the most influential people on Twitter and this page of 500k has no

mutuals now you know it's not really legit you know mutuals are everything like basically when someone follows you on Twitter you can see who else they follow who else they follow and who else follows them like if people that your friends with follows them you kind of know they're a real person but these people will buy an account with 500,000 followers CA means contract address so like how like where you go basically the website to buy the token is the easiest way to explain it and so they'll tweet out these tokens thinking that it's like

some big person and so naive people just kind of buy that token and get and then the person who made the contract just takes all their money basically that's pretty much it rug pool yeah it's a tried and true method these days unfortunately so is there anything else that you could think of on the top of your head that are like like what's like what's like The Meta right now like this is right now today what day is it January 27th I'll post this in three days so what is the meta for January 27th now

we're still kind of like on this like AI type of thing like like the truth terminal stuff or well truth terminal started this whole new Niche it's not even a meta anymore it's just like a whole new category of coins now ai coins there's a projects you know really building on Solana really raising funds on with meme coins so a lot of it is still AI meta I'm not really good at it I've never traded AI meta I'm a news Trader I just made a few hundred thousand dollars on one trade like two days ago

um you know Larry he was on a podcast or not a podcast on the news and he was like talking about this coin called sorin coin the the news anchor asked him what do you think about meme coins and Ryan storin I think was his name Larry Fink says you know know there should be a sorin coin rather once that broadcast got posted out you know so the Black Rock CEO says to Andrew sorin like one of the biggest news anchors there should his last there should be a sorin coin that's all he said that's

all he said and there was five coins that came out there a coin I got it in at like sub 1 mil it went to like 30 mil how do you know when to sell how do you know when to sell oh I mean you don't know when to sell right it's just like how much you don't know I thought storing coin was going to 100 Mil I actually ended up roundt tripping a lot more that I made so you don't know it's just a how much attention can it get I thought Sor and coin

could get a lot of [ __ ] attention but what was the time gap between that was that a live video or was it posted somewhere it was posted I saw it an hour late my friend texted to me look at this uh I was an hour late it was already like above a m Mark cap and above a m I feel like I'm late because think about this if it goes from 1 mil to 10 mil that's a 10x right but it takes a lot to get to 10 mil so how much size do

I need to put in to get a 10x rather than if I got in at you know 20K 30k 40K when it came out and then it hit a mill I made way more X's so I had to size in like almost you know $30,000 at around a mill that's a lot right that's a big risk I'm taking which is why I don't like doing that but I thought the narrative was so good that I took the risk and there wasn't an OG it was like the first coin and eventually The Narrative got spread that's

it it's literally like you're buying a ention units yes like if you could create a token for attention and for every unit of someone's attention for every second these are combining how much the coin is worth it's very interesting and sometimes you're really early I mean an hour went by and sing coin wasn't at 10 mil yet like I thought I was so early and I was there's something about how this extrapolates into the attention economy as a whole like we already know Tik Tok and all Facebook and like Instagram all monetize our eyeballs like

I feel like this is like actually going to be a transactional unit sometime in the next 20 years or something I don't know get prettyy dystopian but interesting concept to think about so it was an hour after the video came out yep that you saw that yes interesting I I was going to ask you are you using so Nova is the exchange are you using a phantom wallet like what wallets everyone uses Phantom it's like the only wallet really right now okay so if you want to do this you need a phantom wallet you need

to buy salana you got to buy salana on coinbase or Kraken sign it to Phantom from Phantom you're going to sign up on Nova and then yeah yeah so it's make exchange from coinbase or Kraken put US dollars in exchange for salana send that to a phantom wallet which is like a Chrome extension and then connect that wallet to Nova or they can watch an orange you video and I'll show you how to do it easy you're trusted onboarding specialist right here okay so but are there any other like straight up don't does in the

space actually how much are you paying I real quick question how much are you putting into each meme coin and how do you decide that you're right just depends how big the narrative can get like soring coin I decided to put in 30k which is oh my God 30k yeah you went big I did go that's very big I never go over I try to stay you know around like 5 to 10 Soul when I'm first getting in and if I really got a size in like 2050 soul but yeah I mean 30k 150 Soul

Souls around a little over 200 right now it's 230 right now 230 okay wow so you're usually putting in like a th000 to $2,000 on a safe bet but if you like have conviction and something you'll go up to yeah pretty much 20 30 yeah insane bro because this is like definitely like I also lose a lot by the way like yeah yeah that's that's why it's like I call it's like gambling but when you think of gambling at like cinos it's like the OD are like usually 50/50 or like 48 52 or maybe it'll

go 4060 but like these are like 9010 but like if you hit that 10 you make like 100x so it's like just extreme yeah I lose a lot but I lose uh I lose a lot of times but I don't lose a lot of money cuz I'm in so early that the max I can lose is so little what what how many times if you get into one and it's like not a winner are you just writing that to zero or no [ __ ] no super you have stop louses or like you can look

at my wallet on chain like 20 30 40% Max stop loss the only times I've ever lost all of my money is when I get rug pulled gotcha like when it's actually like a bad actor yes is there any way to diff like can you track on when someone's launching a pump fun you can track who's launching it yes the wallet yeah and you can check if like if if they're holding a lot of Supply on different coins it's another tool we have in potion like bundling is what so who launched it how much they

have is it important how many of the coins they got from that contract or you mean other coins in general like if they're like this person has $100 million in yeah sometimes that's important that could definitely be a factor of why a coin runs yeah so it's if the dev is a billionaire that's bullish that is bullish because they're not going to sell at the end of the day a lot of the nft projects they sell though sometimes but yeah but I mean like pudy penguins is so strong because all the people who have it

are so rich now that they're not going to sell it hun cake that might be nothing to them right like that's like a big part of to the Moon Yeah pangu to the Moon shout out Luca but I will say that's very so then one is how much money he has but do you pay attention to how much so when they launch a pump fund do they choose where the like do they get to choose how many tokens they get M and so you're just paying attention like did this person give themselves 90% of the

supply course if they and sometimes they do it on different wallets and if they're really good at it you can't even tell damn what okay so what's like I would love to know like what would be like we're going to leave the ethics side of like launching a coin and that being like legal or illegal like from a Trader's perspective what do you want to see in someone who's launching a coin for you to be like that guy is like doing things the right way it depends like am I investing into there's two different types

of meme coins the meme coin that does not require the person who made it to be in it like a news-based event like a moodang coin that doesn't need anybody but but sorry but you need to see how many coins they gave themselves sure but like most of the time we don't get a lot of like people giving themselves too much of a narrative coin at least on their main wallet um so there's the coins that don't need the dev and then there's the coins where it doesn't need the dev like if a coin has

a whole website social media page right like if it actually has features where it needs the team behind it and then that team sells like yeah that coin is going to zero but a a meme coin like mudang or whatever doesn't need anyone behind it it's a cultural thing interesting so you're not really doing too much analysis on the actual launch barely I only really buy things that do not need a Dev like s coin doesn't matter who made it sorry I'm getting so hung up on this but even if they don't need a Dev

and it's being launched on pump fund does pump fund launch with a standard set or they could literally send themselves 99% of the they can send themselves 99% okay is there like just a quick number you see like yeah you can like choose how much you buy gotcha but you would only be able to buy okay I see I see I see you can buy up to 80% of a whole token yeah yourself but it could just be straight from the guy okay I see I see no like when you're when you make a token

on pump fun you can choose how much you want to buy you can buy up to 80% of it gotcha so I've been seeing on Twitter this week okay Aidan Ross getting into this these other big people getting into this so last night Aiden Ross tweeted out that you know he wants to get into meme coins and there were so many different Aden Ross tokens being created and the people were buying 80% of the token to send to Aiden Ross because imagine Aiden had a public Solon wallet they would send they would send him 80%

and then that coin whoever did it first would Skyrocket and that other 20% they get it on like alt wallets and then they bag out 80% of a coin cost 36 Soul you're spending like almost around 10 grand less than that 2 cent eight and 80% and imagine when it pumps like this happened so many times with like big streamers right they open up their Phantom wallet they see millions of dollars and it's like 80% token they own that they'll never actually be able to sell for cuz there's not enough liquidity to take out millions

of dollars but it just looks good and like everyone else just bags off of them yeah I guess that's important to say like if you sent someone 80% of the supply and that's worth like $10 million there has to be someone buying that and if even they sold one or two million of that that would t no they can't I mean yeah like you literally couldn't yeah it's impossible I saw Banks tweeting like he's helping onboard these people the right way yep what does that mean I think it's true I mean you know Banks lives

with uh a lot of like other big you know people in the space so I think it's bullish no I know but like what is when he says he's going to onboard them the right way like well bro a lot of like these [ __ ] celebrities and influencers just like Drop coins drop wallets you know the whole Haka thing yeah correct exactly like hakua didn't do anything wrong she just had the wrong people around her that's really all it is that's what it is most of the time Banks knows what he's doing I'm glad

he's the one onboarding yeah that was pretty like the team that was like making a foundation and like pretending like this is going to be some big thing and it's like dude just let it be a meme like try not to take and I mean they I mean hakua she could launch a coin herself with like a publicly vested schedule of how much she was going to sell throughout the next three months and made a lot more money and no headache so that's so that's the right way to do it I mean not Financial advice

but I mean yes like but so like you're supposed to say that you own 20% of the tokens it's vested for three months meaning you can't sell any of them for at least three months and then once that after three months you can sell 10% every single month or something yeah I mean this is like a regular thing that happens yes so it's just like being transparent with how you being transparent on what you're going to sell what you're going to do and how that will work when it does happen instead of just like taking

all the money whenever you feel like it yeah bro I mean the team that launched that coin didn't do it in a good way they uh said exactly what time it was launching at they posted the CA before it got minted I mean what do you think happened bro it was a snipe Warfare so announcing when it's going to happen and 400 pm. Eastern they had the ca it was literally a gas war in like Fe so everyone's burning money cuz the well is even salana has that high of fees now if it's like sniper

war like that I mean you're competing it's like who can who's going to pay the most fee uh because if you so you basically set how much you're willing to pay and the more you're willing to pay the that's prioriti that prioritizes your transaction and if you're the first one you get like 10% of the supply for like pennies correct but now the price is going into the transaction fee to get that allocated spot it's cool it's interesting so I'm so curious then are like these streamers aren't going to launch their own coins I'm assuming

like do you if you're a famous person like her do you are you supposed to launch your own coin and be the owner of the the meme or are they just trying to like trade and participate man uh there's this one guy who did it really well Mike o'n you know who that is Big Jim Ander like one of the biggest I think he instead of launching his own coin was hyping up meme coins and he just ended up Shilling Giga Giga Chad it's like a gym cultural coin at hundreds of millions and I'm sure

he got paid a bag and I mean all they want is a bag like I have so many streamers influencers celebrities in my DMs every day yo put me on it seems really like I the reason I stepped away from crypto fully transparency is because it's like impossible to like win from the like from like literally from like the public opinion like people are like brutal they all have like different goal posts I'm like what you're supposed to do what you aren't supposed to do I mean the goal post keeps going higher too that's like

my main thing as well it's like I mean does it ever stop I think like crypto sets a really bad like precedent of like how much money is actually money and all this so that was like your whole trading career this is like the game that you've mastered kind of why you're known but in this time like three years ago in the bear everything like these tools weren't as publicly available so you were kind of building these for yourself I built these like um a few months ago okay okay yeah this is brand new to

me so you were you just like using like oneoff tools yes and you're like I should just like kind of make these same tools all in one place and then make a community potion started is I was spending like 5K a month on tools um and I was like I don't need to do this I'm like pretty known to space I'm sure I can just like put all the tools in one Discord and like make other people pay for it uh and eventually that's what happened it was just tools like there was like one chat

potion was just a [ __ ] ton of tools with one General chat and some voice chat so people can like use the tools with each other and learn about them and it just grew every day we got more and more people in The Voice chats and I'm like damn I'm gonna double down this and potion you know became like an actual now informative Alpha chat with um actual software behind it you know we have like fastest water tracker on chain Chrome extensions uh public leaderboards like a whole the whole nine yards public leaderboards for

your internal group yeah so we um through our water tracker we've added like a leaderboard system where you can like see who the best Traders are every single day and there were uh there's a competitor but like they would pick and choose who gets added to that leaderboard I wanted to make it we like hey anyone can go on their seeder board and like make a name for yourself if you want to join a good group like make a name for yourself so yeah we're working like a ton of different features right now and developing

more tools every single day uh we have an office you know 20 uh your is sick yeah thank you it's like 20 30 employees it's not like the [ __ ] headquarters but we're getting there in due time this is year worth three years in so yeah you have a little more time but your progress is great and everyone loves what you've built like actually like you have a positive reputation champ was speaking so highly of you which is why I decided to like reach out to you like I was like I want to do

one meme coins are hot I want to do one conversation with one person who should I talk to he said you so I sent you the DM I'm very curious with as this business develops like how are you like getting it like how are people hearing about it cuz I know you have a YouTube channel but that seems relatively new no um I mean I've been doing YouTube for a long time right like yeah my this Niche right now is new but I've been doing YouTube for you know 10 11 years I've oh what really

yeah bro I mean I blew up on fortnite right I had a big fortnite Channel with 100K Subs millions of views oh okay I was a big twitch streamer thousands of views averaged and then I did also the whole entrepreneur nich Niche bro I've done SM Snapchat shows YouTube proo come on everyone that you've interviewed I I mean I've I've done so much business with um I've tried the whole nine yards and like this is the one thing that stuck you know I did smma scale it to 20K a month I did Snapchat shows I

did YouTube shorts I worked with not look I did fortnite Maps oh okay cool I've done the whole nine yards that's sick Bro I didn't know that part I I knew you were a fortnite player so I assumed you knew Luke I all these entrepreneurs like came from fortnite me and not looke were on the same team we were like you know now he was killing it with YouTube you know crayo all of them wow so you did you were you in the crypto cycle last year yeah yeah 2021 yes but you were a professional

fortnite player I was still playing fortnite back then yeah um I made some decent money in nfts but I lost it all I went from like very very unrealized uh High six figes to 40K in dead like I had nothing yeah and after like inflating my lifestyle and all this I was like damn I got to lock in so that's when I decided to invest myself I did like I bought Iman gazi's smma course uh I did Tom Cruz's Section 8 real estate course I did uh you know whole bunch of different programs in courses

until like something stuck smma got me out of the out of the loophole and then like some other lore to add in 2023 you remember dooky Dash mhm bour a posted a gaming competition I went back to my gaming routes I made $600,000 playing a video game in two months and you you won I got third third yes I did not win mongra won fornite player he made 2.2 mil what what did I forgot what was it nfts or AP coin what was it was it yeah so they were giving out these heavy metal nfts

um and people were just paying to like get like the best score you know it doesn't make a lot of sense now that I think about it but yeah that's so interesting but 600k that's a bag that's bailed me out like I I made so many connections I made a real name for myself in crypto that's how it started I made a name for myself in crypto because I used my gaming skills for like this web 3 gaming thing it's always so interesting to think about all the competitive Esports players because you have like Fast

problem solving you learn the game faster than anybody else like it actually is just showing like how quick you can think how quick you can make decisions how you can learn and make like problem solving yeah and now it's all applying to crypto for all of you guys and business exactly that yeah so do you think the estim all the what did do you think you've lot like learned much from those courses like do you think those helped you a lot um to be honest no I think the main value I've gotten out of courses

uh has been the people I've met until one stuck though I paid $30,000 to Jordan Welch back in September and my YouTube went from like zero subscribers to 100K now and my business potion went from 17K a month to you know a lot more like yeah I've heard a lot of people out of Jordan's program are doing really well that you know there's always like courses programs some people see it as like Guru it's cringe but it's like you keep trying until one of them works out yeah yeah YouTube there's a very specific methodology to

titles thumbnails hooks like very specific that if you just pattern match and learn like it's pretty repeatable but you need a lot of GE in the game to get that intuition you do so like I wanted to pay someone for that you you paid the best and now I pay Jordan who's really good at what he does not only did I get my YouTube up but I got that relationship and connection with Jordan and you know Jordan's introduced me to other people and it's kind of pro and you were with with FaZe Banks last week

I was with FaZe Banks last week because it's you know pretty much Jordan watch let me there but yeah it's all so just all proliferates that way that's interesting so do you think that even because then potions new yes so you probably learned the business skills at least somewhat from that yeah I mean I learned a [ __ ] ton of business skills from failing over and over again bro I've done so much I started some AI software company last year or two years ago that did not go well at all I BR like 20K

doing that when was still a lot of money 20K is still a lot of money um yeah I've just done so much [ __ ] over and over again interesting bro so do you think that what is like the what does your YouTube channel mainly focus on just like right now it's uh it's been educational crypto content we just released our first Vlog yesterday and it's a one of 10 by far of my two of 10 video that got 200k views so I'm thinking like damn this video might get like couple 100K VI going to

pop that's that's addicting bro the one out of 10 on YouTube dude and like it's personal brand it's vog it's like what I want to do for the rest of my life I don't want to be in front of a computer the rest of my life I want to be you know a Creator like you'll have multiple phes just like fortnite this is your crypto era you're going to have a ton of different ways and this will stick with you I want the personal brand era yeah keep it pure bro it's cool I'm curious then

do you think that a crypto group a lot of my friends have crypto groups do you think that's like a like I'm always curious like it's like what do you do you have to be qualified to like sell a crypto group like yeah I would probably assume so I think uh one of the main things that helps me out is like obviously I've proved myself like on chain like people can go and see I've made millions of dollars trading um but yeah I mean like like the most important thing is like you don't want it

to just be a group where people are going in for Alpha because once your Alpha gets bad your business goes to [ __ ] right like once we go into a Bear Once We whatever the case may be where like the information you're putting out isn't good anymore all your like your user retention your turn is just going to like die um so we're trying to build like actual sustainable software that are going to use every day even throughout a bare market and that's going to be like our path to setting the company one day

like actual tools especially for the trenchers who are usually stick around there's always going to be new tenters coming in and I mean I want to monopolize like all of crypto like can I build a product where people know potion not just orangey because right now we have like this huge keyman risk where like hey orangey is potion but like eventually potion would just be potion yeah the personal brand attached to the act the face attached to the company and the company need to be its own thing Prime KSI log Paul yeah prime prime interesting

dude if someone wants to like I'm just other other paths to making money in crypto than just trading meme coins that you would see like you obviously trade first then you had some money that funded what you've built now I mean trading nfts airdrop farming yeah that's pretty much it are you going to airdrop Farm the abstract launch I am a big pengu holder so I think I'm just collect my air drop yeah yeah if I was thinking about they just did like the abstract live streaming stuff yeah you applied yeah I applied I'm assuming

that if you live stream on that that's what qualifies you I don't know I don't know I'll just like I I I moping my penu bags get me air a lot I have a lot in penu too much probably shout out to Luka for giving all the OG holders an air drop for that that's awesome so what else do you think is like that's what I was I want to go back to the topic of like FaZe Banks bringing all these people into crypto yeah like do you recommend like if like would you like if

there's a 16-year-old kid in front of you right now would you tell him like like and he wants to make 10K a month or he wants to make $10,000 would you look him in the eyes and be like get in the trenches this is what you should be doing if I was helping him out like if he was going to come under my wing yes but you it's a one-off conversation you're never going to see him again [ __ ] dude I don't know bro because like people lose a lot of money when they start

you got to pay your tuition fee and sometimes your tuition can be like a lot of money um if if I was like I probably bro I do think the opportunity to make money here is like endless I thought this [ __ ] was going to end a long time ago I thought when I started in April I was going to have till the summer I thought when summer was over all right maybe until the election now it looks like crypto's [ __ ] mainstream this [ __ ] might never end I think mean coins

might stay forever like how sports betting is completely normal now I think eventually like every Market will just be monetized I think for the rest of our lives any big news event will be put on chain do you think that that makes a lot of sense that's what I'm saying like these attention units like as a whole like that seems like something that could actually have some legs to it do you ever do you get interested in like game AI or gaming crypto or like I'm me interested in gaming crypto not AI though do you

know what are the are there any good games that have like launched that have tokens is Off the Grid doing well I don't like Off the Grid personally but people do that's a crypto Tok like game with nfts right yes are there any other game is there a game that you're like looking forward to that you think will do well or you think the traditional ones just need to implement it probably not yet I think traditional ones will have to implement it I do think like gaming and crypto eventually are going to intertwine and you're

going to have like GTA 6 have a organic token native token uh to control their entire ecosystem it'll happen eventually uh I think for right now there's no game I'm super looking forward to I enjoyed playing like dooky Dash and like uh farana I don't know nothing too much back in the day yeah who are the best sources of information for meme coins right now like who do you like like who do you like really respect or like listening to keep up with what just like like who are your favorite people to follow and like

why I mean obviously like good Traders um as far as information there one guy melow metric he gives out like these daily Recaps of everything that goes on in the trenches I think if you're just like starting to like get into this you follow Melo you go read his daily recap every day understand why those coins blew up every day and eventually you'll get a hang of it where his daily Recaps at on his X page it's mellow m e l l o metric interesting and then do you like are streamers getting into crypto right

now is like a big thing yeah I mean there's streamers that pull thousands of views streaming the trenches every day trading I want to hear stories of like what's been going on like what have been like the most like interesting things that have happened in the last like three six four months in crypto I mean we've had all sorts of celebrities launch their cryptos we have tjr and toi you know streaming the trenches we have Andre Tate pumping every single coin on stream uh and we have [ __ ] Trump making a coin we have

rumors of Baron making 10 different coins which might be true um I mean bro what Happ hasn't there been like I think everyone knows about me coins at this point is there a narrative that you're like excited for or something that you're working on that you're excited about um a narrative I'm excited for no not really whatever just comes comes Elon get a pet that's like the most PVE narrative that could happen right now get a pet get a pet any pet what does PVE mean what do you mean PVE Nar people versus environment it's

like basically right now the trenches are super PVP like it's player versus player we're fighting against each other if we get a narrative like that it's not it's just like trenches versus retail that's what is and what but what does it mean to get a pet like if Elon mus got an animal that is like the best actually if he gets a pet so you're just like on the edge of your seat every day to see if he makes a Twitter of him getting or a tweet of him getting a dog or an X post

of him getting a dog that's like a phenomenal narrative early and then he's like [ __ ] it making a meme coin oh my God that would go crazy what if that happened right now that's like another thing right I'm 24/7 on my phone always looking and I miss a lot of plays I'm at home like even right now bro that could actually have just happened it's an opportunity cost bro this could have been $100,000 conversation if Elon dropped got a dog it'd be multiple millions of a conversation but yeah what other opportunities are like

that Elon getting a pet I mean bro there's always something I mean it could be like an article or like a new catch phrase like all right when Trump won the election and he got he got inaugurated the new catch phrase is America is back uh I went to x.com Pootis when the podus handle Got Hand handed over to Donald Trump and I saw his Banner said America is back the first aib coin I saw I bought and then you know after the inauguration was done they tweeted America is back it's this whole new slogan

this whole new like cultural phenomenon got created around this coin and I made a lot of money on that so just like culture it's like being tapped in with culture yeah and then it's being online and seeing if it's picking up steam did you I mean do you remember the the recent Elon Musk meme that he did at the inauguration that was a big meme coin very big talking about his his heart goes out yeah that one correct it was called itler Elon and Hitler and that coin went to multiple Mills I made a lot

of money on that coin how do you know that it's going to be like how do you like that moment happens how do you know that's going to be the ticker I didn't know that that was going to be a ticker there was a lot of tickers but that was the one that was like gain the most attraction and you know good ticker so I just ended up top blasting and making a lot so when you see something like that are you like saving like like if it's like you're seeing like 20 coins come out

seven of them are related to this and you're like sa so how it works is you have three tabs in front of you on this trading platform like Nova mhm and you have other the new coins the ones that are about to hit the radium liquidity pool and the ones that already have hit the radium liquidity pool right what does that mean radium liquidity pool when you make when you make a token on pump f it has to reach a certain market cap depending what the price salana is let's say 100K it has to hit

100K market cap for it to actually get put onto like normal radium so that you can buy on Phantom so that you can like a normal token radium is the salana liquidity pool basically um correct me if I'm wrong I don't know but something like that we're getting technical sorry and uh yeah like on those two tabs you can see like there's like 10 different tokens that are about to hit the liquidity pool and they're all like these different ones and one of those is the one that's going to go when it hits a liquidity

pool what happens it like kind of just stays what do you mean when it's going to the liquidity pool it's just like frozen you can't buy yourself for like a good two three minutes gotcha and then it hits the actual liquidity pool anyone can buy the token can go there's no more max market cap of 100K it's just infinitely up or down interesting okay so then was that one that you need to like like is there like an intuition there you were like this is going to be a meme or was there like external signal

so obvious like Elon just [ __ ] he's got to be looking for it at the end of the day bro like that's such an obvious meme obviously it's going to be put on Tik Tok Instagram like who isn't going to talk about that it's like any moment that happens that's it like I mean that's really it you're just playing the game of how viral can this moment go how viral can X Y and Z go and once you think you have one then it's identifying out of all the tokens they're launching the which is

the best or sometimes you buy all of them brother genuinely yeah yeah interesting and it's just as simple as that you're going to be online 24/7 that's the game that is the game bro that's it I actually feel like I understand I can do it pretty well right now it's not that hard I I inition you have to build that's really it yeah you're just going to be like confused because there's so many coins coming out but like you could just play the news game like being early to the Tik Tok Trend like even a

saying you know how people start saying like the huzz mhm like the huz coin went to like 20 mil you know like just stuff like that so if it's like a new slang skib all the stuff basically skib toilet memes at like 100 Mil like staying flatlining yeah what what okay what gives a meme legs like that uh Community culture how viral is it really like harambe is still a famous meme yeah yeah I mean like Sheba do are like huge those are like iconico yeah yeah so I don't know I don't really hold things

longterm I'm playing like the quick attention game my only longterm bag of meme coins is like Brett penu Loy it's about it is Brett on bass Brett is on base yeah are there any other bass ones why did that one stick I never understood that crash uh like the KO behind it it was a famous person basically interesting is there like marketing like if like if you saw a coin launched and they had like a specific marketing strategy that they posted would that like get you to hold longer like what would make you hold longer

it could be but again I I like to trade news only that's just your style and you just know your I just feel like I have a really good Edge at knowing how viral L can get and you probably too I mean you're good at this marketing [ __ ] so for sure bro so that's like what it is though like just you know your Edge is news and this is how you my Edge is not AI tokens but my friend's Edge is strictly AI they know how to read GitHub they know how to like

do all this stuff like they're always checking like the LinkedIn pages of the founders and seeing all these AI companies they worked at prior and like actually so just building The Narrative of the team behind itre everything interesting could you explain the truth terminal stuff to me CU I I don't know too much about it it's started AI metas um you know this Dev Andy created an AI Twitter called Truth terminal um truth terminal created a meme coin or actually no he created a cult-like religion called goat cus Maximus he's like there should be a

religion called goat sees Maximus so somebody made a token called goat and then they were like hey trueth terminal give me your wallet and they sent him a lot of supply of goat coin and Truth terminal started supporting the goat coin the goat culture the goat CS ma religion and uh it just infinitely went up and then I think it's um I forgot this guy's name Mark Mark andreon someone like that someone really big Andre Horwitz yeah I don't know someone and Mar I don't know someone really big probably different uh he funded he gave

goat the AI a million dollars so like now you have like this big ass VC AI you know a16z person um I think he's like the CEO of A6 yeah yeah Mark andreon yeah yeah oh yeah him him he's fing this truth terminal and it just rips two billions of dollars Mark cap and it creates like a whole new AI so a random guy made a Twitter account that was controlled by like an llm like an AI yes and then so this Twitter account is just tweeted like by himself it's an AI tweeting yaen and

then he created this religion then somebody decided to like how did he have a wallet how they thought it was funny how did the AI have a wallet yeah well they well the Creator W it's a good question how the [ __ ] did the AI get the wallet people people I me we we'll never so a person is it even an AI yeah that's what I'm confused about so it's bro that happens all the time so we don't know if it's like an AI who then made a wallet and it's an AI tweeting than

the actual Creator I believe Andy the dev of true terminal made it for him um does so but he doesn't touch the wallet or the AI the human bro he just sold like a million dollars or way more of fcoin which is another big coin you've heard of fcoin so the AI isn't actually buying and selling the coins no not that my understanding no it's not that's what I thought it was I was like this is crazy no it is not thread guy is like going on Twitter every other day well he's also terrified of

AI it seems like he's like saying that this is like the end of our existence every day it seems like yeah th th guy I love thre guy though he's he's a goat but yeah he's very bullish on Goat he's got big bags in Goat hell yeah what is MOG MOG is a cultural phenomenon that you know a very early meme coin that was able to create a very cool culture around it k money was very early a lot of influential people who will hold with you cabal if you want to call it that decided

you know MOG is this culture that should MOG and MOG is a great token how did Pepe do what they did Pepe I wasn't really super deep into it but I did buy super early I think Pepe is just like you know very big overall Meme and I think the owner like the Creator I forgot his name what's his name the owner of the guy who drew Pepe [ __ ] I forgot I always buy his meme coins anyways I forgot he like ended up endorsing it or whatever and it just Skyrocket so the guy

who actually made the actual ionic art to the meme yeah supported it what about MLG that was recent MLG that is recent um you know big people behind it and it's very cultural phenomenon that I'm holding Moji it's relatable bro you're holding it yeah I am I used to play game battles all the time I was don't you relate to it a lot of our our our people anyone watching this knows what MOG is the the FaZe the hunter thieves the store gaming like the MW2 rust days optic gaming hex like it's very cultural so

I I see how an MOG coin could go it has good people behind it but again like this is more long-term stuff like I'm not super focused on it I just hold MLG what is there like actually like is it related to the found MLG shut down no it's just a meme coin so it's just a meme coin and they made like this one page or with The Branding yeah we can make a meme coin on wag Me podcast and it would just be it's not related to you at all but it's just like get

any ideas not going to go Von do not do that please but I see I see that makes sense and then Banks just kind of tweeted it was like a good match from what I know you know Banks isn't involved whatsoever he actually just genuinely liked it and that's it yeah cuz I mean he's if there's a person to like it that's him yeah it makes a lot of sense and so then I'm trying to think of all the other meme coins that I've like heard across Bonk what was Bon all about Bon is like

an actual token though like they actually have software behind it but yeah it is technically a meme coin but they have a really big trading bot and all the fees and revenue from that trading bot are like used to like burn and buy this token pretty much so it's like all of these there's not like one thing that you're looking for it's like does it have like a cohesive narrative that makes sense so like MLG was like everyone in the crypto space remembers game battles game battles was huge MLB is huge MLG is huge and

then that resonated with banks who was like literally like the OG of MLG and I just hit mainstream yep okay then like this Kus required somebody like bangs to make it hit mainstream though like valid that's like a validation right that's the main issue is like yeah you can be super early to a good thesis you can but like if you can't get someone to push this or if if the cabal doesn't pick it up on time you could be wasting something which is where you know being all these groups comes into play Because if

you think something's not being caught right if that Ryan sorin coin for example no one was talking about it put it in 10 group chats I'm sure it will get spread eventually go so it has to just catch that traction be like there has to be like subjective consensus like everyone just has to like agree this is that's like the Hot Potato thing everyone just has to agree that this is like legit and then everyone's attention's on that for a day and it's it's a game Hot Potato really get in get out I'm just curious

why the ones that stick stick is like so some of the like pump fund isn't like a community based but some will actually have like a Discord Community with people that resonate with this message and have activities just get people to stick around and want to feel like they're part of it like it's all of them end up doing that that's what we call bag holders so uh that's what we in the industry call yeah yeah I mean there every coin ends up getting a community but it's just like I know bro we're in a

really fast-paced market right now where it's really hard to make something stick they can only stick if they have someone big behind it I think it it makes sense to me like there's actually there's a method to the madness I hope you learned a lot it's definitely gambling but there's a method to it and there's an edge because you're gambling into other humans and if you're faster quicker deeper in the trenches yeah I mean imagine make money imagine like this actually did happen but like the New York mayor right they appoint like an animal I'm

pretty sure that did happen something like a pig or whatever you know that would run I mean a mayor is an animal like it's just like basic stuff you had to have grown up on Tik Tok to get this [ __ ] man I feel like I'm like just at the edge of like understanding little old bra this is you have to have a PhD in brain rot but that is your Edge and if you do and if you're online 24/7 you should get into meme coins you should get into meme coins I guess not

Financial advice but it would make sense yeah like it has there is a method and I think that's what I came here to understand and I appreciate you sharing it brother of course D dude where can people find you on social media uh orangey on YouTube orangey on Twitter uh that's pretty much it to be honest all right guys this guy knows what he's doing if you want to get in the game this is the guy I asked all of my friends I was going to do one podcast on Meme coins who I should have

he was the unanimous vote check out orangie brother thank you so much