JESUS ALIENS | E.T. CONTACT IN THE NEW TESTAMENT? | PAUL WALLIS

[Music] the Eden series argues that the Elohim and Yahweh stories of the Bible are based on ancient Sumerian Babylonian Assyrian and Arcadian narratives of dinga and anunaki figures which today we would describe as ET but are there references to ETS and contact experiences in the New Testament I think if you're looking for that there are probably five places you would go the anunciation that's the story of when Mary the mother of Jesus is told she's going to have a baby by some unusual means the second would be the Epiphany that's the story of when the

Magi the wise men come from the East to pay homage to the Infant Jesus the third would be the Ascension narrative that's the story in Luke acts of when Jesus is taken up into the sky and into the clouds after his death and Resurrection the fourth would be the Apostle Paul's Vision which is described in 2 Corinthians 12 and the fifth would be a very interesting Moment In the book of the revelation of John now the anunciation is a very interesting moment in the gospel of Luke at which his mother Mary who is a virgin

she's never had sex with any man although she's betrothed to Joseph has a close encounter with a being described as an angel and she's told she's going to have a baby even though by any natural explanation that is impossible and of course she does have a baby who turns out to be very famous Jesus now Christians tell this as a unique story to illustrate the uniqueness of Jesus but even within the Gospels it is not a unique story The Story begins with a close encounter and it results in an anomalous pregnancy we think we've been

told what kind of being she has encountered it's an angel but that word just means a messenger or a person on assignment a person on a mission it hasn't told us the biology or genus of the being who's delivering the message so it really is a close encounter with a nonhuman figure but it's not even unique within the gospel almost exactly the same thing happened to Mary's cousin Elizabeth she also is not going to have a child by natural means because she's postmenopause and then she has a close encounter with a non-human being and now

she's pregnant also with somebody very important so these two stories are very clearly and deliberately paralleled in the Gospel of Luke we're supposed to notice it's virtually the same story and it's a story of something that at that time would have been described as a supernatural pregnancy although today we might have other language for it but I'll come to that later those two stories are clearly modeled on the story of Abraham and Sarah and their anomalous pregnancy because Sarah is postmenopause in the Hebrew Cannon Abraham and Sarah are presented to us as a story of

Hebrew Origins but I argue in my book the scars of E that we actually have a story of at least two layers yes there is a Hebrew origin story there but it's interwoven with a human Origins story as well but it's the same basic pattern here's a couple they're not going to have children by any natural means and then they have a close encounter with three powerful nonhuman entities and the anomalous pregnancy follows and it is a new beginning in the story of humanity in the Hebrew Canon so we have three figures in the Bible

whose conception and arrival is announced in very similar fashion but these stories are not unique to the judeo-christian tradition if you listen to the stories of the birth of LSU it too is an anomalous conception it's there in the conception story story of vipassi Buddha the 22nd incarnation of the Buddha before sitat Gama Buddha it is also there in the conception Narrative of the yellow Emperor now what's interesting about some of these Eastern stories is that we're given a different description of the contact phenomenon that preceded the anomalous pregnancy it was a phenomenon of light

being shown on onto the mother from something in the sky I find it curious that Carlo Celli in the Renaissance period depicted the enunciation in exactly that way there is the beam of light shining onto Mary from well what is that in the sky a flying sorcerer a UFO at the very least why would Carlo Celli tell the story of the enunciation that way it's nothing like how it's described in the Gospel of Luke he's painted it the way it's described in these stories about LSU the yellow Emperor the passi Buddha the story of an

anomalous conception in which the mother is human and the father is God is actually an echo of a pre-christian story the story of the conception of Alexander the Great his human father is reluctant to lie with his mother because there has been a conception by Zeus Zeus has manifested himself in some physical way and has impregnated his wife and the result is this history changing figure Alexander the Great so by the time people are reading the annunci stories of John the Baptist and Jesus they're somewhat familiar with this kind of story it is a Trope

that is used to give an explanation as to why this figure is so powerful so extraordinary so history changing is it more than a Trope though in the case of Jesus did it really happen I lean to suggesting that it is a Trope that Luke is using to make a theological point so that any greo Roman readers will know straight away he's making a powerful Claim about Jesus and I lean in that direction because it would seem extraordinary if this really was an historical narrative about Jesus it would seem extraordinary that Matthew Mark and John

Thomas and the other extra canonical writers seem to know nothing about I think Luke has used a Trope to make a theological statement about Jesus but where has that Trope come from why is this expected to be a resonance story anomalous conception anomalous pregnancies the fact is this is not the exclusive Preserve of great historic figures you can find families all around the world today who will talk about indigo children or Star children who will tell you maybe they have four children but one of them is extraordinary developed very quickly is at genius level is

very sensitive has psychic abilities has memories of other lives this one of the children is different and they will tell you there was something anomalous about the pregnancy that led to that child now you might say that's ridiculous there's no evidence to support that kind of claim that's not proof of anything that's fair comment all I am saying is that this kind of story is not just confined to the legends of great historic figures it is part of the human experience and families today who talk about having an indigo child or a star child they

don't go around using those stories to try and get their kid into a better school or into a better job these stories are very tightly held because people know how ridiculous that sounds people know they're going to be judged and ridiculed if they share such an idea and these stories are held very very tightly it has become a Trope for some reason and clearly Luke has used it to make a statement about the importance of John the Baptist and the importance of Jesus now I want to quickly address an elephant in the room because I

know people will be asking do I believe in an historical Jesus and if so why since there is no contemporaneous evidence of his existence or John the Baptists come to that and look that is a fair question because what we do have is evidence of the beliefs and practice of the very first Christians and so in pliney suetonius tacitus Jus we have the record of the beliefs and practice of the very first Christians but what we don't have is any Report contemporaneous with Jesus and John the Baptist saying oh there was a Ruckus down the

road today because of this preacher or something extraordinary happened in this town because of this wandering Heat ER we don't have anything like that and even if you go to the holy lands and you're shown places or this is where he was born this is where he lived this is where he preached the sermon what you're being presented with are narrative Traditions there is no object that we can touch point to and say Here's the proof of the stories of Jesus that we read in the canonical gospels the reason I lean to believing there was

an historical Jesus is because it is so easy to track the Distortion of that story by the Roman Empire as Christianity became the Imperial Department of religion you can see how the Jesus story is distorted certain things are forgotten Jesus's teachings about feudalism the money system the tax system not emphasized Christianity is more morphed into a religion of worship and obedience turning Christians into good compliant citizens and the way Jesus has depicted his change so that he becomes more and more European looking and by the 6th century is being portrayed in Roman military uniform a

foot soldier serving the interests of the Imperial Army and Imperial conquests and of course earlier than that with the rebranding of Constantine as a Christian Emperor we have Jesus rebranded as the supporter of Imperial War and the armors will now fight under the banner of the Cross which incidentally was a symbol of the Sun that Constantine was already using in the religion he was into before his great rebranding so because we can find all those stories of distortion to me that's evidence that there was an original Jesus tradition that was inconvenient ient to the Empire

inconvenient because it was at odds with feudalism and inconvenient because it had great momentum so I take that as evidence that there was a real authentic Jesus tradition in the beginning but are the stories Luke tells about his conception and birth history or are they tropes I would say that the anunciation story fits Jesus in This Global family of stories about star children and indigo children a family of stories that says very often there is some kind of an intervention in human development to ensure that we have a very Advanced person who can progress human

knowledge wisdom social wisdom who can move the human story forward in a positive way and that certainly seems to be the claim of Luke in his telling of the story totally unknown to Matthew Mark and John but that is based on the original close encounter story of Abraham and Sarah if you want to read it closely if you want to take it as history then I would flag the question what kind of entity is that that has affected this anomalous pregnancy and back in the day we might have called it Supernatural Divine today we have

the language of artificial insemination today we speak about invitro fertilization and we realize we could be looking at a story of advanced technology rather than supern nature if we read the stories in that more literal historic way but for the reasons I've said I I lean to the idea that Luke is using a Trope the epiphony is found in Matthew's gospel it appears to take the place of Luke's presentation of Jesus first as a baby to the lowly Shepherds and then as a boy of 12 to the teachers of the law at the Jerusalem Temple

in this way Luke presents a coming out to the world from the bottom to the top of Jewish Society Matthew doesn't have any of that instead he has a story of Magi wise men coming from the East to see the birth of this new new king now if they're coming from the East immediately we're thinking what are they looking for they're not looking for a Jewish Messiah does this story fit within the traditional searches for the next body SATA is that what the Magi were looking for these Magi come because they are following a light

and the word in the gospel is aster it traditionally is translated as star and that's the obvious translation of it but of course at that time when people talked about the Stars the lights in the sky they made no distinction between what we would call a star a planet an asteroid or any other light moving through the night sky and to State the obvious a star can't move through the sky with such Precision that it can identify a suburb a street and an individual house so I would suggest that the light they're following in this

story has to be a lot closer to the ground in order to point out where the young Jesus and his family are now living once again it's a very dramatic story given to show the global significance of Jesus and yet it is a story completely unknown to Luke Mark John Thomas or any of the other extra canonical gospel writers How likely is it that this is an historical story if the other gospel writers were completely ignorant of it so what is Matthew doing in this story well all the gospel writers seek to present Jesus as

a new Moses coming with new laws that will delete and replace the old laws of Yahweh and that is why Matthew tells the story of the Epiphany in a way that mirrors two of the stories concerning Moses so firstly Moses has to be rescued because the murderous Pharaoh wants to get rid of all the Hebrew babies and so we have the story of the slaughter of the innocence and Moses is put in a rush basket into the river so that he can be saved and of course he's found by a daughter of the Pharaoh and

grows up in Egypt in the Royal household as a result of that there's the other moment when the adult Moses is wanting to extract his people group from the country of the cruel pharaoh and now the angel of death the violent Yahweh figure comes along and there's another Slaughter of the Innocents only this time it's not the Hebrew babies missing out all the Egyptian babies it's flipped the other way around so that it's the babies of the Egyptians who are attacked and the Hebrew people escape with Moses and so we've got a sort of inversion

of those stories now it's the wicked and murder King Herod who pronounces this demand for a Slaughter of the Innocents and so Jesus has to be taken to Egypt where he's going to grow up for a couple of years before it's safe to bring him back to the Holy Land so it's a story inverting the earlier stories again to make a claim about Jesus A New Beginning a new Moses a new people a new king once again for that reason I think we may be looking at a Trope rather than a piece of actual history

but if we take it more literally than that what was that light it was not a star it was not a planet it was not an asteroid it was something that was intelligently steered so close to ground level that it could identify a house so what exactly did Matthew think he was telling us when he told that story was it just a magic light or did he have something more developed in mind once again just like with the Carlo crell painting of the enunciation or the ER deela painting of Jesus's baptism or the stories from

the east of the yellow Emperor Lau the passi Buddha what we have is an anomalous encounter with light associated with the infancy narratives of Jesus clearly we're being told this is a significant moment but where does the expectation come from that a close encounter with a non-human entity or an anomalous experience of light will prede these kind of experiences I think the Ascension story in Luke acts is one one of those stories that probably most Believers would say okay something is being described to us that can't have happened in exactly that way there must be

something figurative about this story and there surely is this is the moment where Jesus is taken up before the crowds up into the clouds and now he's among the gods now if you read that in a literal historic kind of way you have to ask some questions what exactly took him up and how is he breathing as he left the atmosphere and entered into outer space it's a story that's stretching if you want to read it that way but if you do you might pause to ask is this a Trope is this a repetition of

say Elijah being taken up into the heavens in his case with told how it's in a craft a smoky fiery craft a chariot of fire that comes down through an opening in the sky through a whirlwind wind or what we might call a wormhole lands takes Elijah and off it goes and Elijah is never seen again is Luke building his Ascension story on the story of Elijah so that we can know that just like the great Prophet Elijah was taken up into the heavens the same thing happened to Jesus or is it something else is

it simply a repeat of the classic Greco Roman Trope of a body not being found because the hero is now among the gods has Luke simply dramatized that same story so that any Greco Roman reader will come to the story of the Ascension and say I know exactly what he's saying this is the apotheosis of Jesus Jesus is now a God and everyone knows it the Apostle Paul's Vision in 2 Corinthians 12 is a very interesting moment in which the Apostle Paul is wanting to tell his readers look some remarkable things have happened to me

that means I really know what I'm talking about and he talks about a time when he was caught up into what he called the third heaven where he saw and heard things that he's not allowed to repeat now the third heaven if we accept the cosmology of the day was really their way of talking about beyond the sky we're talking about the great beyond we're talking about deep space out outter space suddenly he's in this place and he says I don't know how I got there I don't know if this was in the body or

in spirit he's saying he doesn't know if he was abducted or if this was astral travel to use more familiar language and then he says he saw and heard things that he is simply not allowed to repeat now today we would use the language of astral travel we would use the language of outer space or deep space we would use the language of abduction and of course it's not the first time that something like this happens in the biblical tradition it happens to Enoch it happens to Elijah it may have happened to Ezekiel is this

a repeat of that for the Apostle Paul he's describing it as an experience so he's not not saying let me tell you a story in a familiar way let me reach for this Trope he's saying this happened to me and I will tell you as much as I am allowed to can anyone say close encounter the senior astronomer for the Vatican Observatory is the Reverend Dr Guy Consul Manuel and he has argued there is another moment in the gospels that may hint at a PO populated universe and it's the moment in the Gospel of John

where Jesus says I have others not of this fold who I must also bring so that we may be one together and he argues that this may be a reference to extra terrestrial people I take a different view I actually think there Jesus is talking about Gentile Believers and he's foreshadowing a movement that gathers people together from Beyond the Jewish world that it's Jews and Gentiles that it's an international family of humanity so I I don't take that as an ET story The revelation of John chapters 6 and 21 here the writer describes a city

it's the New Jerusalem except it's not city- shaped it's a giant Cube and in that Cube are streets and habitations he describes the textures by likening them to metal and precious stones he's fascinated by the artificial light that means it's perpetual daylight inside this Cube he talks about how everything that is needed to sustain life is in that Cube you you've got food supply you've got water supply you've got medical supplies and then he talks about how the cube comes down from the sky that it can take tens of thousands of people and he describes

an extraordinary moment when he says he sees the stars fall the sky move backwards and roll up and then he sees a new Heaven and a new Earth and let's not read that word Heaven as if it's something religious because back in the day it just meant Sky he's saying that after he's seen the stars fall down the sky roll up and move backwards he's now seeing star systems he doesn't recognize and a planet he doesn't recognize now you put all that together and to the 21st century mind it's a coherent picture we look at

the Cube we might think that's a Bor Cube only a little bit nicer it is a place to carry a breakaway civilization from Earth to some other region of space and of course the writer is it pains to say that the tens of thousands of people carried by the cube are only the very best kinds of people there has been a harvesting of Earth and this cube is now going to move off with the best people with with all the resources it needs to sustain life if you picture the Stars falling the sky moving backwards

being rolled up and now you're in a new part of space wouldn't we call that portaling wouldn't we call that traveling through a wormhole wouldn't we talk about Breakaway civilization we have all the language we need to describe that story today a story that's baffled people for generations and I just wonder what it was that John saw in that Revelation when he describes a place with artificial light food supply water supply Medical Supply it is an echo of what Ezekiel said he saw now on the one hand Ezekiel describes the ruak the cavod which is

a craft that seems to take a couple of people and he describes how it flies and moves around he describes the feeling of it when he says the hand of the Lord is heavy on me as it launched he described the sound of the motors like the Roar of a waterfall which is very descriptive of the sound of a rocket he describes the rotor blades which move at voice commands he describes the wheels in such detail that NASA has a patent on them the engineering drawings were produced originally by ysf blumrich in the 1970s and

that design of wheel is used to this very day so we've got that technology in Ezekiel and then in another place he describes a far bigger structure again food supply water supply medicinal supplies he calls it a temple we might call it a mother ship a giant craft and when we look at how it functions in Revelation if it's a similar thing again we've got other frames of reference by which to understand these visions that these ancient people saw and of course we call it a vision it simply means this was something they saw and

did not understand but they've described it as Faithfully as they can so that you and I in ages later can puzzle over it in a very similar way to which they did and I love the Fidelity of apocalyptic writings in that way now I'm convinced that the Elohim and Yahweh stories in the Hebrew scriptures are actually ancestral memories of paleo contact that's contact with other civilizations in the Deep past visitors who came sometimes to exploit sometimes to colonize sometimes to assist and nurture the progress of humanity in the New Testament I would say there are

no strong claims to ET company but what I would say is this I think the writers are telling the story of Jesus using tropes which say this man was divine this man was important this man is now to be found among the gods tropes which would have been well understood by any Greek or Roman reader especially when we come to the birth and death narratives surrounding Jesus I think what we can say is that these stories belong to a global family of stories that's why those early hearers knew what the stories meant but the content

and language of those stories are curious today we wouldn't talk about anunciation we would use words like artificial insemination or inv vitro fertilization we wouldn't talk about meeting an angel we would call it a close encounter we wouldn't talk about a light or a star we would say a UFO today we wouldn't say caught up into the third heaven we would talk about deep space and abduction we have the language of craft wormholes motherships Breakaway civilizations if we retell the stories using language like that of course we hear it differently it doesn't make the stor

is more historical or add any information in terms of whether or not these things happened but what it does do is make us hear these stories in a different context realizing that they belong to a global Cannon of story eastern and western ancient and modern and it really is a global story whether we listen to Nigerian Story the stories of the ethic people about Abassi and a tie if we listen to miso American stories about the feathered serpents if we listen to the Norse stories of the ier if we listen to the Celtic stories of

the Sith or sheay Mesopotamian stories of anunaki ancient Armenian stories of dingir or Hebrew stories of Elohim these themes recur artificial insemination invitro fertilization lights craft Close Encounters deep space wormholes abductions Sky armies or whole cultures of advanced beings who come to our planet govern over our ancestors and then leave when we find these correlations in stories all around the world stories which reflect in these familiar themes and tropes in the Jesus story we have to ask why [Music] [Applause] [Music] oh [Music] a [Music]