Canada's Next Prime Minister | Pierre Poilievre | EP 511

so you take the total business investment of the United States divided by the total number of workers in America is 28 grand in Canada it's 15 grand the Canadian worker gets about 55 cents for every dollar of his American and they're both measured in USD in Vancouver more money goes to bureaucrats than goes to the Carpenters electricians and plumbers who build the place and to add insult to injury trades people who build homes can't afford to live in them why is it that we're still importing oil when we've got the world's third biggest Supply why

is it we can't export our Natural Gas I think that was perhaps the single stupidest thing I ever heard a politician say your federal government spent $66,000 of your fam's money going over their budget they've squeezed the taxpayer out of every last dime and they're still 62 billion doll short it's worse than that because I suspect that the true picture is a lot more dismal than we know okay so that's going to be dumped on you sometime in the next year they they get the party I get the hangover eight years from now what is

it look [Music] like Hello everybody I had the opportunity and the privilege today to speak with Mr Pierre POV who is the leader of Canada's Federal conservative party but also barring catastroph ropy and God willing Canada's next prime minister um a transition in power in this country is likely to take place sometime between March and October or November of 2025 and it appears very probable that Pierre POV is the air presumptive and will be the next prime minister of Canada and so I talked to Mr POV two and a half years ago um which was

quite shocking to me I thought it had been more recently than that and um a lot has transpired in the in the meantime what did I talk about with Pierre well I think mostly what I did was give Canadians and people on the international side a chance to see who this man is um in an hour and a half of discussion and the extra half an hour on the daily wire side you have enough time to get a sense of how someone responds spontaneously and emotionally and cognitiv ly to complex and challenging questions um in

a manner that's not rehearsed that's the huge advantage of the podcast format we talked about all the stories that all the stories that Mr POV has heard in his thousands of event interactions with Canadians in industrial settings in manufacturing settings in academic settings um so that he could inform himself about the true situation that's facing Canadian struggling to make ends meet um despite their best efforts now which is a dismal reality in Canada with its excessive housing prices and diminishing economy most importantly perhaps what is his vision of the future that um both threatens and

provides opportunity for Canadians how is it possible for the citizens of this great country to dig themselves out of the Mala and pit that has been dug for them and by them over the last years and what could be done to remove the impediments such that this country could be become the dynamic industrial Powerhouse that it certainly could easily become so join us for all that so sir it's been almost 2 and a half years since we sat down to talk the time before so I guess the first thing I'd like to know is what

have you been doing during that time I'd like to I'd like to hear I'd like to hear about your day-to-day schedule and your week toe schedule like lay out your job basically uh we have two parts to my professional life it's very uh bifurcated there's the parliament Hillside which is you know early morning meeting with my leadership team house leader Deputy leader whip Etc to plan out the day uh the battle plan for our parliamentary committees question period Etc um that is punctuated by one one weekly Caucus meeting and just the daily prosecution of the

government which is the quintessential role of an opposition leader and then the other part to my life is touring um I asked my assistant today how many events we had done over the last year and he said it was exactly 600 I a few weeks ago was 570 something so we've done six 100 events and those are like tours at Mills mines factories Farms high-tech facilities and I we tour in see how the place operates then I give a short speech do a question and answer and then I just mul about and shake hands with

the workers for 25 minutes to an hour and then I go on to the next stop and do it all over again and um we did that in nine provinces and two territories uh this year um and um and so that's a summary of my workload and work plan uh to uh to do my job and and you said 600 events you you made illusion when we were driving over here that the weekends are particularly packed that you'll do like 10 events on Saturday or Sunday right and and so what a typical event what do

you enjoy about the events why are they useful and and what do you learn well first of all you get to you get a practical um insight into how the country actually works like um who makes the widgets how do those get made how do um how does our supply chain come together um what skill sets do these incredible workers have what background qualified them to be a licensed welder or uh to run a CNC machine or to be uh the CEO of a 300 person company that supplies um uh Parts into the American economy

um and that practical Insight I think is important if you want to lead a government uh and uh a national economy so you you learn a lot uh then I get to hear the stories of the people who work in these places and uh get their feedback on what they want what their dreams and aspirations are yeah I want to turn to that some in some detail let me ask you about the Parliamentary side too because I think it'd be useful for people to know how you prepare for your for what you do in Parliament

I don't it isn't obvious to me that people exactly understand the business of being in opposition you know at a really practical level how do you what do you see as your major function I I know you're there to to to push back against the government and to question and criticize but it isn't obvious how you go about preparing for that or how you decide what issues you're going to focus on and how you distribute the responsibilities among your your caucus and your and your broader team so you know it um there's a lot of

discretion you make up your mind when you wake up in the morning you read the news you see I have a a team that gives me a a full briefing of all the the published news from the mainstream media all the news from the Independent and ethnic media all a download of the entire social media landscape and then I respond to that by saying well I think these are the we're going to we have roughly 25 questions we can ask and I'll say well we I want 10 on inflation and three on violent crime and

four uh on uh whatever the subject happens to be in the day and I want this committee to focus on this today and that committee to focus on that today and then our teams uh go out and we do it and um the I've been very blessed because my caucus is extremely talented and they don't need a lot of Direction but we've been acting in unison and I think that's why our message is pumping out so clearly to people it's not a caffy of sound it's a clear drum beat um and that's why people are

hearing and appreciating our message so you feel that your party is well organized at the moment extremely well organized okay so what's your evidence for that by every measure by every statistical measure uh we're stronger than any political party has been in well maybe in my lifetime um objectively speaking memberships fundraising poll numbers right so people are positive are positive in consequence of that so it's it's a lot easier to lead an organization when it's successful obviously people are much more enthusiastic why do you think you're in that position what's going on that that's that's

setting the stage for that and I don't just mean the failures on the on the Trudeau side I mean what do you think you guys are doing right well we have a clear mission statement and people know exactly why we're in this um you know whenever someone asks me if they say I I'm thinking of running for Parliament or for mayor or some other political position what's your advice well I said well before I get to the advice I have a very simple question why do you want this job and it might seem like a

simplistic question but it's actually the most important question in life why why are you doing what you're doing and our answer to that is to bring back the Canadian promise that anyone who works hard gets uh a great paycheck and a pension that buys them good food and a nice home and a safe neighborhood that anyone from anywhere can do anything and that people are in charge of their own lives that's effectively what we want to deliver so every day when I'm in Parliament so that's a very local Vision in a sense right it doesn't

have that the grandiosity of an international utopian vision for example very down to earth I think people are sick and tired of grandiosity uh in fact I think there's uh something Grand about a family that can uh take can go on a nice road trip and share stories and build lasting memories that the kids will remember when they're 85 years old despite producing all that nasty carbon dioxide that's right I think but I think those things are Grand and I think with the problem we've had in this country and in all of the countries that

have been afflect by this horrendous uh utopian wokeism is that it's been focused on the the grand um the grandiosity of the leadership of the egotistical person alities on top and not the things that are Grand and great about the common people and that is another reason why I think we're doing very well people are saying finally there's someone who's focused on letting me take back control of my own life and create a a great future for my family um and uh so that that is it to answer your question one of the reasons why

we've had such incredible success over the last two years in the beginning was the word Christ is a master at using short mysterious stories they change the listener who takes them seriously my experience with the biblical text is that they're inexhaustible sources of wisdom if I find something in them that is an obstacle it's because there's something in me that has yet to be transformed I just don't get it the person that you do not think could ever be virtuous oh let me show you this is the person who is fulfilling the law and the

prophets but seek first his kingdom and his right ious and all these things shall be added to you as well I don't believe in that promise I'll just be honest on this point that has not been part of my experience this Parable I've been trying to understand forever while we were talking and while we were sitting there then it hit me I saw it made me one ideology that has supplanted Christianity that has done good for Humanity this Jew is very frightened of a postchristian society he was the god man the model the example of

what we ought to become and what we can become it's okay it's safe for you in all of your doubts and apprehensions to open up and to let these stories in he is the temple he is the Torah he is the Covenant he is prophecy fulfilled if you're doing this and it isn't also the love of wisdom it's also an attempt at wisdom without love in both ways you're going radically wrong power of love it sounds so cliche when you say 60 I don't want to be in a homework I tell you we've got our

work cut out for us gentlemen this is one peculiar time and one peculiar text and I sure hope we're up to the task okay so there's a lot of distrust generally speaking in relationship to I would say establishment organizations and political Elites uh all across the West a lot of that well-earned um why should Canadians believe that the vision that you just laid out is something that you hold personally dear and not merely a what would you say a set of carefully calculated campaign slogans well I look back at everything I've done for my entire

political career uh to the time I was a teenager you know some people have even dug up my old uh University essays and I've been saying precisely the same thing the entire time um you know when I was 20 I wrote an essay as Prime Minister I would and the title was building Canada on freedom the entire piece was about making the government small and maximizing personal freedom so that's basically what I'm doing now so there's you have consistency there things when I launched my leadership race I literally had same language in my leadership launch

speech that I had put in that essay 22 or 23 years earlier um and when I was part of the Harper government uh we basically fought for and did the same thing things then that I'm proposing to do now so as much as you can be ass assured uh of anything any political leader says um I've got evidence to back it up okay so one of the things that's been very distressing to observe I would say and I'm going to use the UK as an example I mean the UK had 14 straight years of conservative

uh government yeah and you know as far as I'm concerned thank God for that because it could have been labor but having said that they fall they fell 100% prey to the blandishments of the Net Zero types and brought forward really a catastrophic energy policy and yeah the UK is suffering dreadfully for that and their immigration policy I mean kir starmer apologized for it which was something remarkable to behold and so did kemy badnor who now runs the conservatives in the UK now the reason I'm bringing them up as an example is because well they

were a conservative government and they certainly didn't govern by anything approximating conservative principles and so how do you H how do you feel about the probability that if the conservatives in Canada take power that they'll be enticed into this Global utopian delusion that seems to have enveloped so many so many leaders kind of regardless of their political stripe what do you think if anything can inoculate you or has inoculated you against that I know better well elaborate what do you mean I'm not going to do that um and it will be hard because the Temptation

will be this is the mistake that conservative parties around the world have made countless times they think well anybody who's got a conservative mindset is already voting for me so I can go off and Chase um the ideas of my uh political opponents and and then everyone will love me because I'll have the conservatives due to the fact that I have the name conservative and then I'll have all these other people because I've embraced their contrary Direction and in the short term it works because you're you you managed to have all of these people under

and all of the different political um ideologies captured in one tent but the problem happens when the policies are a disaster and then people wake up and go oh my God my taxes are now up my in the inflation is out of control the deficit is spiraling there's crime on the streets so it would does the Temptation exist to try and uh take on the the political policies of uh the Socialists in the the short term sure but it's one that I will fiercely resist because I know that by the fourth year of my mandate

people would be enraged because their lives would be even worse so it will be tough though like it's going to be trade off the Temptation I mean I think many of many leaders fall prey to the temptation to shine on the international stage right I mean I can't remember who it was in the UK I believe it was the previous labor party leader who said that decisions in Westminister were essentially irrelevant because all the important things were happening internationally right and so if people are involved in status climbing and they hit the national Pinnacle always

then there's the international world to you know what would you say to dominate or to to impress and that's I think that the power of that Temptation or even of that peer pressure can't be underestimated so okay so now you've been these events these 600 events that you've gone to so let's say that's something approximating 1,000 to 1200 since we last talked you spent a lot of time speaking to and I presume listening to ordinary Canadians I heard you made a speech in the heard you make a speech in the House of Commons that went

viral in the last couple of weeks and you spoke very persuasively on behalf of workingclass Canadians and so tell us what you've tell us what you've learned what you've heard over the last couple of years and how that's shaped you and changed you let's say as you've moved from well as you as you shifted your position up the political hierarchy and and are po poised really likely to take the Reigns in Canada at some point in the next year you've listen to all these people and so what have you learned and and and what has

it made you convinced of let's say well first of all people there's the bad news and the good news the bad news is that people feel like uh they've done absolutely everything right and their lives are uh trapped they you know young people say look okay I went through I got an education I work Non-Stop and I have made the calculation that there is no mathematical path for me to own a house it's just not possible in Toronto here for example if you take the average income and the average house price it would take use

29 years to save up for a down payment so you know if you uh for a down payment for down payment not to pay it off forget paying it off um and so if you're a young woman who's got a biological clock obviously we do the math you know you start off at let's say you're 25 well you're going to be in your 50s before you can afford the average house so how you ever going to have kids um and and that's about the time when people think about downsizing from their house that's what they

used to think about downsizing and you know they usually had their house paid off back by the time they were in their early 50s so just to show how how dreadfully things have worsened um that's this the picture of the youth uh then there's the the the kind of middle-aged people who do have kids already and they're terrified of the dangers in the streets I mean our streets are just being overtaken by drugs and gangsterism um and uh other dangers and they want safety again um and then you have business owners that are saying there's

just no way to continue to compete in Canada uh we have to look at moving and that means the next 200 jobs we create is going to be in Ohio or Florida or some other place than Canada uh that's the kind of overview that I that I get the good news though is that people do now have some hope they think that things can be turned around and they theyve clearly and correctly diagnosed the problem which is entirely political there is no there is no physical Geographic um reason why Canada should struggle to to supply

people with great opportunities of home ownership and family formation in fact we should be the richest country in the world and people increasingly know that and they know that if we make the right albeit difficult political decision that they will once again be able to do as their parents did which is to say get a house start a family uh live in a safe neighborhood raise their kids with good Traditional Values that's another thing I'm finding is that a lot of people um are really getting back to the those values that we were told were

unfashionable um they they they want you know young people today they want to have families they yeah well there's been a real conservative swing especially among young men well no wonder because been demonized for what 30 straight years for every aspect of their masculinity from their play preferences to their proclivity to destroy the planet with their ambition and so there's definitely a an opportunity there and clearly your political party and you are capitalizing on that that you have the support from from from young people increasingly right across cada we are winning among youth uh in

fact the youth were the first to come on board with me my rallies were overwhelmingly populated with youth youth which is not normal for conservatives and the reason is is because in your youth of course you you as you write it people young people want to have the adventure of their lives they want to go uh into uh the Wilderness and um earn a living and bring it home and raise kids have a purpose that's bigger than just short-term um short-termism and uh I think you know 20 years ago the Socialists would go to university

campuses and say vote for us and we'll let you be a kid forever you we'll give you free stuff and uh you never you'll never have to get a job and that was very temporarily popular Across the Western world but then young people woke up and found out this was not a Utopia it was a total dystopia and that all the things that they really valued and wanted for their lives were impossible when they were being borne down upon by this massive State um they've learned that that that but that help is the Sunny Side

of control and and um and so now young people are and I love this this is great news our young people are saying I want to start a business I want to invent something I want to create things I I want to become a a Tradesman and then when I I get when I get good enough at that I want to hire five other Tradesmen and by the time I retire I want to have 300 employees and and then I want to give that company to my kids um these are the stories that I hear

when I go out and about about in Canada and um the great news is we can have all those things that's the optimistic message that I have for people we've got a limitless supply of resources here we're like a cornucopia you know the the third biggest supply of oil fifth biggest supply of natural gas biggest supply of uranium fifth biggest supply of lithium we've got not one not two not three but four coasts to tied water right um we we live next to the biggest military and economic superpower the world has ever seen we have

a highly educated population and the best system of system of government in the history of the world the parliamentary system um not the best government but the best system of government so all these massive advantages uh we just need to unleash that potential right so the unhappiness that you're seeing among young people seems to me to be a consequence of the mismatch between the opportunity they see right in front of them and their FR at theity can't be capitalized even if they're contributing their and they're definitely doing their part like they really are you know

there's of it's always been a habit of older people to say you know oh the youth these days when I look at the young people today all they do is work I am astonished when I when I meet Young University students how much they work outside of their studies just to to scrape by how many hours of Labor they do as waitresses or um in another service job so that they can pay their bills way more than when I was a student you know 25 years I was a kid in Alberta I could work in

the summer and I didn't work on the rig so I didn't have one of the high paying jobs I had a more what would you say a job that was secondarily associated with the re with the resource economy I could make enough money in the summer in 2 months 4 months to pay for the tuition and my entire year's rent of course right right right and uh now the these kids are working 20 30 hours a week in addition to a full course load and they they look exhausted when I meet young people today they

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even worse about that is that the people who are most demoralized by that are precisely the people who would be most productive and hardworking cuz the ones that are sponging along they don't give a damn anyways right it's they're not losing any Glory future and they're not sacrificing for it anyways but it's it's really not good when your economy is set up to punish people who are entrepreneurial and hardw working and that's what it does right now okay so so let's let's delve into that a little bit so I've been tracking economic statistics in relationship

to Canada and sort of left me open-mouthed in amazement at our dismal condition so from what I've been able to understand the richest people per capita in terms of GDP per person um gross domestic product per person so that's total productivity is Ontario and uh Ontario inhabitants are now poorer per capita than inhabitants of Mississippi and that's the poorest American state so the inhabitants of Canada's richest Province are poorer than the inhabitants of the United States poorest state and that's actually occurred primarily in the last 10 years yes and because we were basically at parody

before that and had historically been not quite as rich as the Americans with some you know blips above them but pretty much tracking them one to1 and now it's 60% something like that and that's and that's not all the bad news because it's 60% in terms of a absolute wealth and a real estate market that's twice as expensive approximately on average yeah right so now it's really bad it's really incredible like 10 years ago the New York Times wrote an article uh welcome to Canada home of the world's most affluent middle class and in that

article the times had calculated that median American and Canadian incomes were tied and that Canadians were slightly better off now part of that was because the 09 0809 financial crisis hit them harder than than it hit us but still now per capita GDP in the states is $22,000 higher than in Canada measured in USD that's about almost 30,000 measured in right so that's a whole other income essentially that's a whole other part-time in exactly and um and then to as you correctly point out their real estate is significantly cheaper than ours so their their dollars

go a lot further even when you match up the exchange rates um and what's worse than that is that the leading indicators are even more horrific and leading indicators for example are investment dollars because your wealth tomorrow is determined by your investment today so if your employer for example is buying lots of new tools and Technology you're going to be able to crank out more widgets um so you crank out those widgets then you can ultimately make more income down the road if you take business investment and divide it by the number of workers the

American worker gets $228,000 of investment measured in US Dollars this is per capita per worker per year per worker per member of the labor force okay so you take the total business investment of the United States divided by the total number of workers in America is 28 grand in Canada it's 15 grand so we got the Canadian worker gets about 55 cents for every dollar of his American and they're both measured in USD so how is the Canadian that's investment in future productivity that's investment in um in machines and Technology warehouses factories um I see

any any capital investment that businesses make divided by the number of workers that's the measurement so now that means they're getting better technology better um new machines uh better tools than our workers and they will be able to crank out even greater wages for their people than we will unless we catch up with that um our productivity is another major problem like right now uh and that's productivity sounds complicated it's actually extremely simple you just take the GDP and you divide it by The Hours worked in the country so American GDP is $80 so for

every hour an American Worker Works on average he produ he or she produces $80 of GDP of GDP in Canada it's 50 so that's every hour so that means we have to work 60% more just to make the same amount uh and have the same level of uh income to buy food and housing so that that's the now that sounds like a bunch of wonk speak that should all might seem like it only matters to someone staring at a spreadsheet or a graph or a chart but in fact that's reflected in the fact that our

two million people are lined up at food banks because they can't afford food and uh 80% of youth can't afford homes and um our quality of life is and the things we can afford to provide our kids have fallen back so much there pretty Stark and easily comprehensible statistic I mean if you work and you produce $80 worth of goods and services in an hour compared to working and producing 50 obviously that's a substantial shortfall yeah so and is that is there a Starker indicator of the economic disparity between the US in Canada than that

or do you think that's the primary statistic I mean I think housing costs are another one I mean there was a study out just uh 10 days ago that has Toronto and Vancouver now by far the most unaffordable housing markets in North America and so you know housing costs are 50% higher in Toronto than they are in Chicago even though Chicago workers make 50% more money uh the same is true between Vancouver and Seattle Seattle workers make way more than Vancouver workers but housing is 60 or 70% more expensive in Vancouver so uh on on

all the me less by a lot by a lot by a lot yeah and we're we're paying more paying more by a lot right and most of that's transpired in the last 10 years yes and we're paying the difference by accumulating enormous quantities of debt our our households are by far the most indebted in the G7 uh when you take you divide total household debt by GDP we now have a bigger stock of of household debt than our entire economy um we are more indebted as households than the Americans were right before the 08 financial

crisis and um so what we have as a modeling Canada is we have artificial scarcity imposed by a very heavy and restrictive state confiscatory state that suppresses production MH but in order to allow for consumption we print money and borrow money and then flood the economy with that money okay so that's another problem so that's the inflationary problem yes now the problem with inflation there's many problems with inflation but one of them is that it particularly punishes people who are thrifty and who save yes right right so inflation P punishes the people who forgo Gra

to invest in the future that's right right so that's a very bad idea it's a horri inflation is the single most in immoral tax for so many reasons one it takes from Savers and people who are trying to be be responsible thus making it impossible to be responsible because you will if you if you refuse to to play the inflation game of borrowing money to buy things you can't afford someone else inevitably will and you won't be able to afford anything um so you ultimately have have to act irresponsibly it's like Milton Freeman was asked

what would you do with your money in times of inflation he said spend it right like the first thing you want to do when inflation is out of control is to make sure you get rid of this thing that's losing its value the second reason it's immoral is it takes from the poor because the poorest people cannot put they do not have the ability to buy inflation prooof assets like gold and real estate and fancy watches and art Collections and wine B uh fancy wines and things that go up with with or even exceed inflation

so it's a very big wealth transfer from the half to the from the from the poor to and the working class to the very very wealthy a very small group of people actually get richer so the Socialist policies that um provide goods and services to Canadians let's say or denans of other countries by printing money actually punish the poor brutally Absol in consequence of the inflation that they generate yes I mean all the Socialist policies in practice take redistribute from the working class to the super wealthy in practice and I can prove that again and

again again in practice Yeah in practice uh in practice they with the all the redistribution that happens in the so-called socialist countries ultimately goes from the working class to the super wealthy that is the real okay so but just one last thing on inflation the the the final reason why it's so immoral is nobody votes on it the basic principle of our parliamentary system system is the government can't tax what Parliament has not voted the people must no taxation without representation right but no one ever votes to have the money printing happen and so the

inflation is adopted secretly and you blame the grocer because groceries are more expensive or your local gas station because gas is more or your realtor because house in fact it was actually the government that bid up all of the those things with money Printing and you didn't even know about it so it is silent it's a silent Thief that takes from the poor it gives to the richest people um and it destroys the working class uh and that's why I am I want to crush inflation we need a policy that seeks to just to stop

inflation at all at all costs okay so what would you do to to stop inflation well we stop the money printing you know we need a we need and and the money printing is just a means to fund deficit spend MH governments borrow Define the deficit yeah for people so basically the deficit is the difference between what the government spends and what it brings in it's usually calculated on a yearly basis the Y and the debt well the debt is just the accumulation of the deficits right right so the deficit right now is $62 billion

and I thought it had a ceiling of of 41 billion yeah wasn't that a ceiling yes not e I guess not um and um look there are very real present-day consequences for that deficits increase the money supply uh central banks effectively facilitate that increase in the money supply and that causes inflation and uh you know it's it's why our you know I have a buddy who's whose family moved here from Italy back in 1973 his father worked Paving roads um and his mother made sandwiches in a Senior's home they were able to pay off their

home 10 minutes from Parliament Hill in seven years right their grandchildren wouldn't be able to save up a down payment for that home in 15 years and they will be University educated with all the advantages of having been here two decades that is the consequence of the money supply growing vastly quicker than the stuff that money Buys so we have to do is stop growing the money supply and start growing the stuff money buys right produce more energy grow more food build more homes we have to unleash the free enterprise system to produce more stuff

of value um and this is where we have to remove the artificial and scarcity that the government is imposing on the population let's um incentivize our municipalities to Grant the fastest building permits in the world to build homes um and you have a plan for that in principle yes I mean I'm going to say to the municipal governments they either they either speed up permits cut development charges and free up land or they will lose their Federal infrastructure money so they will have a powerful kotan stick uh incentive to speed up home building and the

percentage of a new house price that's a consequence of government Taxation and regulation well in Vancouver it's 60% 60% does that include the land and the house yes that includes everything so I'll tell you how they calculate it CD how took the cost of building a compar the cost of building a home to the cost of buying a home yeah and he said what's the gap between those two things so they added up land labor profit for the developer materials and they compared that to the sale price and they found the Gap was $1.2 Million

so that's $1.2 million of extra cost above and beyond the materials the labor the land and the profit for the developer so where's that going well the answer is development charges um sales taxes land transfer taxes uh the the delays in getting the permit time is money um the Consultants lawyers accountants lobbyists that the developer has to hire in order to get the approval that so in other words we're spending twice in Vancouver we spend twice as much on bureaucrats than we do on all other things combined to build a home more money goes to

bureaucrats than goes to the Carpenters electricians and plumbers who build the place and to add insult injury those trades people who build homes can't afford to live in them right I mean it is so what we need to is Slash the bureaucracy and I'm going to I'm going to say to the Mayors you're not getting Federal infrastructure money until you slash your development charges speed up your permits I'm going to take the federal GST off new homes uh under a certain limit and encourage the provinces to do the same but we've got so much land

we we should have the most affordable housing in the world we have it should be Dirt Cheap because we have the most dirt we just need to get the government out of the way the same goes for our resource sector me why is it that we're still importing oil when we've got the world's third biggest Supply why is it we can't export our natural gas uh overseas you mean like to Germany and Japan even when they ask offering multi- deade made contracts at at at distressed prices because they're so desperate for energy right and we

can't make a business case for that famously yes this is the I think that was perhaps the single stupidest thing I ever heard a politician say and that's a really hard contest to win as we celebrate the gift of life you have an opportunity to share the same gift with a mother and her baby imagine a young woman facing an unplanned pregnancy feeling alone and unsure of what to do she's searching for hope and that's where pre-born Ministries comes in Dianna already had eight children and was in a tumultuous marriage the thought of another child

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um the last 10 years the Americans have added I think six liquefaction plants the qaris have massively increased their production Canada has not completed a single new liquefaction facility there's one that's supposed to come online soon in um kemat that was approved by the Harper government it's only now coming online the Germans actually built an import terminal in 194 days from concept to completion um the we've had Direct formal requests for our natural gas from Japan Greece Germany France and I'm probably missing some others um we have the fifth biggest Supply we have cold weather

which makes it much cheaper to liquefy gas it takes 11 days to ship to Asia from BC takes 20 days from the US GF Coast so it's basically half the shipping time um and and and you figured out a way to monetize cold weather yes exactly it's a very difficult thing to do exactly which also will help with with data centers data centers which um we're going to need data centers for AI and blockchain and countless other things uh that we have we can we have the energy for it takes tremendous amount of energy to

to power these data centers apparently a a chat GPT inquiry is 10 times more energy intensive than a Google inquiry so I think it's I think it's 2.9 um Watt hours that is necessary to answer one chat GPT question it's only3 wat hours to to process a Google search so in other words about human brains is it turns out the remarkable thing about human brains is how smart they are for how little energy they use right right whereas we're building machines that are super intelligent but they're very energy hungry right well we have a lot

of artificial intelligence in government as well but it's a different kind yeah yeah but we could be powering these data centers with Canadian natural gas uh um generators with nuclear we have the biggest supply of uranium we invented the can do we have the incredible nuclear physicists and Engineers 60% of Ontario's energy already comes from nuclear so we could be powering these these facilities and they're they're just beasts uh go that are going to gobble up electricity the tech companies are absolutely desperate for it right I mean Facebook I understand they're they're looking at uh

building their own nuclear plant to power yeah Microsoft revitalized three m Island I didn't know that y y y and they bought all the power that it's going to generate we have about 250 uh data centers in Canada uh we could do a hell of a lot more uh and our this the our secret sauce is our energy our incredible supply of energy of all kinds Hydro nuclear natural gas you name it um so let's unleash the production of these resources and bring all that money home we could try to organize things so that energy

superpower wasn't a uh an insulting phrase well it you know National Bank did a study if you want to talk to these environmental loons that hate our energy sector they said uh the great Economist uh Stefan Mariana out of out of Calgary National Bank said if we displaced half of the El the electricity demand that India will have added to its grid over the next 20 years by supplying our natural gas instead of them using coal it would reg reduce global emiss ISS by 2.5 billion tons which is three times the the emissions of all

of Canada so in other words by exporting our gas which is half as emissions intensive as coal we could do far more than it would we could even do if we shut our entire economy down and disappeared from the earth so why don't we why don't we address the environment with energy abundance instead of energy poverty well that's obviously the moral thing to do with regards to the alleviation of absolute poverty as well yeah because the the there's an environmental case to be made for that too which I learned about about 15 years ago if

you if you alleviate absolute poverty the people who are now comparatively wealthy so say starting to move into the middle class take a much longer term view of their lives and their children's lives and their grandchildren's lives which are now relatively assured and they're much more likely to take environmental action at the local level so it looks like the fastest Pathway to a genuinely green and sustainable future is through the eradication of absolute poverty right and the most effective route to that is cheap energy right right so absolutely so it looks like we could have

a green future and eat our cake too so to speak and Canada could definitely be at the Forefront of that absolutely so okay so I want to turn back to some numbers the deficit this year was 61 billion that was last year's deficit sorry last year last year and there's 40 million people in Canada and so that's $1,500 per person Federal overspending and that's $66,000 essentially per family so just for everybody watching and listening your federal government spent $6,000 of your family's money last year going over their budget that's just what they spent in excess

of what they had originally budgeted right and that's on top of having among the highest taxes in the world with our you know 53% highest marginal tax rate plus carbon Tax Plus High payroll taxes plus High business taxes plus High uh capital gains taxes so they're they're taking in more money than ever before they've taxed they've squeezed the taxpayer out of every last dime and they're still $62 billion short right and and that's just one level of government by the way then the provinces have deficits that compound the federal one so we have way too

much government and uh we need to reduce the size and cost of government and Unleash the Power of the the of of the free market okay so it's also the case that we haven't gone into Diagnostics yet but it's also the case that the Trudeau Administration has increased the federal bureaucracy 40% in bodies yes in bodies since it's Inception yeah right but despite that they've also radically increased the amount of money that they're spending on Consultants yes who are about as expensive they're as expensive as employees they way more expensive yeah as any employee you

could ever possibly have right $600 an hour something like that right so they've massively increased the size of the federal bureaucracy but also massively increase the degree to which they Outsource the work that hypothetic the bureaucrats should be doing and this is not it sounds like one of those sort of annoying things that uh that bothers us all but isn't very substantive you know you think these you know one guy is making 600 bucks an hour we're spending $21 billion on federal government Consultants alone that's $1,400 per Canadian family in federal taxes just for Consultants

right per year that's recurring that's not a one-time cost so it is an insane amount of money to be spending on that especially when you have more bureaucrats to supposedly do the work and arguably they're delivering worse results than ever before I mean our border is more porous our military has been weakened um and our basic Services we or devastated well you could put it either way I mean it's been I I think it's been definitely been weakened and despite the heroism of the men and women who still serve uh the political leadership has undermined

it in every possible way right immigration poorest border I think our per capita immigration rate exceeds that of the US even given the US Open Southern border Oh by far in in we had a population growth of 1.2 million uh in 2023 that's on a base of 40 million people so it's an astonishing number of people to bring in in one year everyone now admits that this was a Calamity um for housing the job market and our Healthcare Sy well trudu himself walked it back recently he walked it back with what was the approximation of

a public apology yes well this is after he called everyone who questioned his immigration policy a racist right and then he adopted the policies that he cons he was calling racist um only a year and a half earlier so okay so that's a lot of I just talked to Terry gaven Canadian journalist this week too and he did a about a five-dimensional analysis of the trouble that Canada was in it was it was blackly comic in some ways because we realized at the end of the conversation or near the end of it that we hadn't

even discussed the everpresent threat of the Quebec separatists and I was thinking oh my God like Canada's in a pretty dismal State when the threat of Quebec's separatism is number sixth on the list of threats to the Integrity of the country yes right so okay so now this that's making a comeback too God I know I me the PQ is now leading in the polls in Quebec after they had been completely obliterated in the Harper era separatism was completely dead in Quebec and now it's making a Resurgence and ironically of desperation than anything else well

I mean it's it's interesting that the leader of the PQ has actually been making economic arguments in favor of separate they used to always try to avoid that because most quebecers would say well clearly we'd be worse off economically if we left but because Trudeau has been such and and Freeland and the entire liberal gang in Ottawa has been such a colossal disaster for our national economy the separatists are now able to make the argument that they would be better off separating from that Calamity um now I I intend to plan all along maybe I

intend to reverse that argument by making our economy strong again but it really is um astonishing to see uh how badly things have changed in every respect okay so this is really transpired in large part over the the 9 to 10 year period that Trudeau has been governing and so when you are trying to put your finger on what went so so wrong so calamitously wrong what what do you think the major contributors were I mean there's a lot of hydras whose heads were encountering at the moment and I imagine it's relatively difficult to trace

a causal pathway but what did we do wrong as a country well I mean we we it's it's it doesn't what I'm about to say is not uh shock to anyone we we have a prime minister who is dedicated to a extremely radical ideology uh it is just a rehashed um socialism that has been discredited again and again and again throughout the ages and his um basically authoritarian socialism is has guided him throughout his entire Prime ministership he believes in a state that controls every aspect of your life your money your speech your thought um

CL controls the economic uh all of the industries of the country um and every time that has been tried it is a complete disaster so it's there's no mystery involved it it is the same old disastrous outcome that results from the same old disastrous policies right that that have demonstrated themselves as disastrous continuously throughout the 20th century exactly okay so so one of the things that that I think is particularly striking I I saw Steven Gilbo who's probably the minister in Trudeau's cabinet who's most uh fervently um he describes himself social economy well this is

the thing so he described himself as a socialist and so for all you International people listening Canada has always had a socialist party and that's the new Democratic party the NDP which is currently run by Jag meet Singh who's propping up Trudeau all his protestations to the contrary and Canadians have always been about 20% of Canadians have stably supported the Socialists the NDP and Canada and that's been true since about 1962 or something when they first popped up as a as a federal party now the Liberals and that's Trudeau's party have been a Centrist party

historically speaking and they were the home of the classic liberals All Things Considered and they like to steal good ideas from the left and from the right and and chart Canada's course down the middle the thing about Trudeau liberals is they're not liberals is they're far-left socialists and they came to power in the guise of liberals and that meant that they're bloody their their government was fraudulent technically speaking from the beginning because Gilbo for example obviously should have been a member of the NDP and not the classic traditional Canadian liberals but he didn't care because

he knew that had he run for the Socialists he would have ended up with 20% of the vote because that's what they always do and never had any clear pathway to power and so Trudeau brought a bunch of people in who were so radically left that they left the NDP in the dust essentially and they've been running the country on false pretenses for 9 years and if you Ally that with the fact that Trudeau is clearly he he clearly has narcissistic personality characteristics and runs the country I think as his as a what as a

testament to his own Grandeur it's something like that and one of your caucus members recently stood up in the house and I think listed something approximating 60 scandals I mean I've been scandalized by that because my observation I've been watching the Canadian political landscape for you know five decades and the Trudeau government has skated through at least a half a dozen scandals that under normal circumstances would have provoked an honorable government to resign and and then that doesn't count the other 54 and so at the moment Trudeau's grip on Authority is very shaky his Deputy

Prime Minister resigned last week in a cloud of catastropic catastrophic surreal uh manipulation um he shuffled his cabinet this week at least a third of his caucus doesn't have any confidence in him but he's being propped up by the Socialists Jag meet Singh in particular who also continually proclaims publicly that he is an opponent of the Trudeau government and is standing up against him well refusing categorically to do anything to do the thing that's actually in his power to bring down the government so do you want to I just can't understand this at all so

do you want to walk us through this well let's first of all um shed a brief tear for Jag meet Singh because the problem he has is that he's trying to be an NDP leader we already have an NDP prime minister I mean Jus trudo is um he's actually much more radical than the traditional NDP as the NDP themselves admit the previous leaders of the NDP yes he he attacked the NDP for trudo attacked the NDP for being too conservative yeah um but because he had the comfortable blanket uh of the liberal party which governed

for most of the last century people didn't realize what kind of radical they were dealing with um the second problem Jag me Singh has is that all of his political ideology is implemented now so right and we're seeing it like people look around and say okay this is what it looks like the Utopia the NDP has been spinning in the corner of parliament uh they told us everything was going to be free and wonderful and just and there would be um racial Equity there there would be uh you know there would be unicorns and butterflies

uh and rainbows and this would be the Utopia well now the all of their policy all of their agenda is implemented and people look around and it's a hellscape um you know we have, 1400 homeless encampments in Ontario 35 in Halifax we have um hate crimes are up 23% in the last nine years um the military is decimated wages are dropping like it it's the list goes on and so Jag me Singh is trying to disown that ideology even though that it it belongs to him uh and he's trying to make some trying to unsuccess

sucessfully to convince people that he's come somehow different than that when in fact Trudeau has only been doing what Singh would have done in his place um and so uh it is a classic for socialists what they try to do is change their names and move on and try to forget have everyone forget their past uh and when I say that he had socialists changed their names I I mean you know they they first they were Communists and then they became socialists and then they became social Democrats and then they became they stole the world

liberal and then they they they ruined that word so they changed their name to progressives and then they changed their name to woke and now they claim they don't want to be called woke anymore the Socialists always try to disown the things they've done because it's manifestly disastrous and that is what sing is trying to do while simultaneously keeping Trudeau's government going he voted just a couple of weeks ago against a non-confidence motion that I put forward which contains sing's own criticisms of Trudeau in sing's own words so he voted against his own words to

keep Trudeau in power um but I will remind how do you how do you account from that for that from a motivational perspective I mean the scuttlebutt in the Canadian press is that Singh Is propping up the government for personal reasons say regarding his pension now you're making a much more political case but but I I can't understand how he can reconcile himself to himself because what he does is so at odds with what he says that it couldn't be more different like if he if he Allied him the other thing I can't figure out

maybe you can shed some light on this is like when Singh agreed to act as Trudeau's support why the hell didn't he negotiate a cabinet seat I mean why didn't he make it into a formal Coalition I know that's not a traditional Canadian move but it could happen and so he sold his soul to Trudeau fundamentally decimated his own party and gained nothing in return including what he could have gained had he bargained properly that's how it looks to me and what do you think about that I he's not a very good negotiator that's for

sure yeah yeah and what what you're seeing is the all of these egomaniacs uh in both the NDP and what we now call the Liberal Party um are turning on each other because they all want to disown their Collective record they all of them want to say oh I wasn't part of this and whether it's uh the fin outgoing Finance Minister Freeland or Mark Carney who's been writing the financial plan behind the scenes uh or Jag me Singh uh they're all trying to say I wasn't there I wasn't part of it uh I'm something completely

different than what you see uh and uh that is just a an illustration of how much of a disaster their agenda has been um and I think that's why we're doing so well and and we're going to defeat them and Canadians will give me a mandate to take the country in a completely opposite direction okay so what do you see on the horizon in the upcoming year I I want to talk about two things what's what do you think is going to unfold well even in January I mean once once Parliament reconvenes and what you

expect from Trudeau in terms of his political action then what you expect as the Liberal Party tries to reformulate itself like I I can't imagine a scenario not really where Trudeau leads liberals into the next election that seems to me highly improbable it wouldn't surprise me if he has to be removed Kicking and Screaming so to speak but I'd like to hear your thoughts on on what are Canadians to expect in the upcoming months so parliament's back in late January um it will take some weeks to actually get a non-confidence vote onto the floor of

the House of Commons then we'll see if Jag meat sing's latest promise of voting non-confidence uh was as insincere as his prior commitments to that effect um when does his pension kick in in February so uh he's now basically he said yesterday that uh he would put forward a non-confidence motion at the earliest opportunity well that's likely to be March which is oh that's convenient okay so that problems off so really so so March is the earliest as far as you can see that that that election could be called Singh will not vote non-confidence before

he gets his pension or at least he will not vote non-confidence in a way that sees the election happen before his pension kicks in so um we won't have an election before very late winter early spring um then there's the possibility that the the trudo resigns and then goes to the governor general and says we need to shut down Parliament while the Liberal Party then chooses uh a new replacement um a Trudeau 2.0 and so there would be a leadership race God knows how long that would drag on for during you think approximately in March

no earlier than March as far as you can foresee yeah probably and during which time we continue to flounder and twist twist in the in the wind um and by the way you know the liberal media is all saying well surely you wouldn't want to trigger an election during a liberal leadership race um excuse me the Canadian people are not obliged 41 million people are not obliged to wait around while this party sorts out its M like these guys could have got rid of Trudeau a year and a half ago they knew he was a

disaster then and now they say well we're low in the polls so we have to get rid of him now you didn't care when he was just depriving single mothers of food for their kids or doubling housing costs or unleashing crime in in neighborhoods across the country but now you're really concerned about getting rid of him because your poll numbers are down you want to keep your job sorry that's not a good reason to to paralyze the entire country in the face by the way of a major negotiation with the incoming US president who enters

with a massive and Powerful mandate and a man who has proven that he can spot weakness from a mile away so the country should not be forced to wait for the liberal party uh to to clean up its own mess they've had PL plenty of time to do that what we need now is certainty and the only way that can come is through an election so the people can decide M and so who do you see as contenders on the liberal side I mean Freeland I think is going to make a run for it but

but Carney is do you think he's going to throw his hat in the ring now he famously uh rejected the opportunity to become trudos Finance after accepting it after accepting it well so the the the the chronology that were led to to believe based on sources who' have spoken about it to the media is that Carney agreed to the job Trudeau went to to Freeland uh uh days before she was to introduce her fall update and said I'm going to be firing you to bring in Mark Carney and then when that blew up with her

unexpected premature resignation then Carney looked at it and said I don't want any part of this and he crawled under his desk and uh so he was happy to take the job when it looked like it was a clear path but then when it was a a Messier path he he hid from it why why would have he decided to take that job to begin with because that's a good question well God you can't imagine stepping into a more thankless rule I mean want associate with these guys well Carney already has a reputation it seems

to me that if he has Prime ministerial Ambitions he just wait for the trudo Liberals to cataclysmically degenerate even further and then step in as the savior look he he's going to try and distance himself now but here's the problem he signed on as Trudeau's economic advisor it's an official role he holds today now he's going to make one of two arguments one he's going to say yes in fact I was his economic adviser and therefore I am responsible for the $62 billion deficit and the catastrophic growth the rising cost of living or he's going

to say I wasn't really his advisor I was just full of it you know he has to decide is it was he lying to everybody when he claimed he was Trudeau's adviser or uh was he telling the truth and either way he's got a major political problem that he is now totally Inseparable from the Trudeau record um he supports the carbon tax he supports the attack on our energy sector he told me in a parliamentary committee that he opposed Canadian pipelines even though his company has invested in pipelines in the Middle East and in Brazil

you know uh he is part of the Davos agenda um he's a he's just every bit as radical is Trudeau the only difference is he's got a nice Banker's haircut and suit and he wears navy blue socks rather than Polka Dot Socks um but beyond the the Aesthetics he shares Trudeau's entire ideology and he and he represents the status quo okay okay let so what do you see let's let's let's do this I want to know what you see as like Frankly Speaking I don't envy you your job and yeah or the People by the

way in the Trump administration because it's it's very glamorous at the moment for them but if they're going to cut government inefficiency in a serious manner they're going to be doing hard administrative labor for a very long period of time now you're going to take the Helm of Canada when there are five dimensions of trouble brewing and serious more serious trouble on all of those Dimensions than I've ever seen plague Canada in my entire life as a Canadian and it's worse than that because I suspect that the true picture is a lot more dismal than

we know yes okay so that's going to be dumped on you sometime in the next year and so how are you going to deal with that like how are you going to deal with the fact that the easiest thing to do for Canadians and for the remnants of the Legacy Media will be to wait until the Trudeau government collapses completely dumps the economic mess on your shoulders and then two months later Proclaim that it's it's your fault right well and it will be your responsibility at that point and so like they they get the party

I get the hangover oh you definitely are going to get the hangover there's no doubt about that and that's that's a formidable set of problems now as we've already pointed out Canada has a tremendous number of natural and cultural advantages but still like there's a lot of now you have a senate that's packed with liberal progressives let's call it call them by their proper name you have a senate that's packed with progressives you have a Judiciary that's packed with progressives you have municipalities all across the country that are progressive even once you win there's going

to be a lot of opposition to your movement forward and you're going to inherit all these problems so so like are you trying to are you trying to dis dissuade me from taking this man and so and so I mean I want to know what like why you think you're why you think you're ready why you and it's been two and a half years since we've had this convers conversation like this like and and what's your what's your plan and who are your who are the people you have in positions to implement your plan and

why do you have why should Canadians have confidence in them so my plan is pretty clear we're going to we're going to cut bureaucracy cut the Consultants cut foreign aid cut back on corporate welfare uh to to large corporations we're going to use the savings to bring down the deficit and taxes unleash the free enterprise system we're going to repeal c69 That's the anti-energy Law uh to uh uh cause a massive resource boom in our country and make it attractive for business business to do the value added work here in this country so we're going

to part of it going to be growing out of this mess you know if you take a national the debt to GDP ratio um you have uh the denominator has to grow and uh that's why we need a bigger more powerful GDP that can fund our country and diminish the relative size of our debts um we're going to bring back uh a Monet discipline to bring down inflation stop the money printing uh and we're going to incentivize the municipalities to get building but it's going to be a big fight with all of these things because

there are so many vested interests that will be trying to hold us back so many small economic groups that have profited off the status quo they will be fighting against me and I'm going to have to make put it a call to Canadians that they have to stay politically active can't assume that simply by changing uh by voting in an election that everything is going to all the problems are going to reverse instantaneously uh like I will need people to put pressure on the Senate to adopt my economic reforms uh I will need people to

put pressure on their Mayors and local counselors to get out of the way and let us build homes uh I will need businesses to actually do their part I mean our corporate candada is so completely incompetent when it comes to politics um they're going to have to start to fight for the policies that are good for their workers um more aggressively and I've said that to them they need to fire their incompetent lobbyists and actually go to the people and make the arguments for the reforms that I'm talking about um and only are the businesses

that you're talking to these are larger businesses I presume are they do they understand your concerns are they on board with your they're starting to understand because they know that what they have been doing hasn't worked um well the energy companies have been Towing the green line which seems to me to be a very bad strategy they're idiots they're complete idiots uh the the the big five oil companies in Canada have idiot lobbyists um they have brilliant workers incredible workers but idiot lobbyists and they've been trying to suck up for the last 10 years and

did nothing to support the right policies in the prior years so that's going to happen to change the developers are going to have to inform people in the cities why housing costs so much you know how is it possible that Olivia Chow can raise development charges by 30% and nobody in Toronto knows about it well it's because the builders have not made it known and so the builders take the blame when the housing costs go up I sorry you have to actually politics is a participation sport not a spectator sport so our business Community is

going to have to step up and make the argument for these changes uh or or or I will come up against a lot of political barriers so I my message to everyone is God willing I I will Triumph in the the election but the people who want the changes that I'm talking about are going to have to stay politically active to push them through and over the finish line so one of the remarkable things that transpired on the American front and rather precipitously in the last three months of the election was that a remarkable team

of people aggregated themselves around Trump and that well that was heartening because each of those people had their own um track record of Stellar accomplishment but it also helped decrease people's concern about Trump as a individualistic autocrat let's say um now you're very well known in Canada I would say and and and increasingly International I'd say that's less true of your team and so could you tell us like can you point to some people who will be key in your Administration and highlight their I'd like to know what you think their strengths are so let's

walk through your your the core elements of your team and also I'd like to hear a little bit about where you think you guys still need to learn and might need further development well listen I uh I'll go through some of the names uh we for example we've got uh Andrew Shear who was the party leader a few years ago but he he he actually did a good job as party leader uh and learned a lot in that process he was the speaker of the house and that's important in a house leader he he knows

the rules of the game because a lot of the stuff that gets done or doesn't get done is the result of procedural Maneuvers so you need someone who understands procedure and he understands it better than anyone that's why I think our house strategy has been so successful um one of my former leadership Rivals uh Dr leson Lewis is uh our shadow minister of uh infrastructure and she's doing a great job in talking about how we can rebuild the infrastructure of the country um I think um you know we've got uh new newcomers like um Jal

javani uh who was recently elected in an overwhelming mandate in uh Durham um and and um Melissa lansman our Deputy leader extremely well-liked in Toronto a very wellknown across the country she's been a terrific Communicator very smart so these are very good people and we're of course recruiting a whole Army of candidates who are not yet elected in our non- held writings that will help me uh not just win the election but govern if God willing we do who do you have on the energy side federally well we're kind of Lu Lucky in that respect

that we have uh a huge Western caucus right we we dominate in Alberta and Saskatchewan so you know there's very few MPS in our Prairie caucus that don't understand energy because they all grew up with it as you recall from your your time is in Alberton and uh they know what to do and I've also planned to uh I've talked to Daniel Smith and I said look um and and Scott Mo who's the premier of Saskatchewan I said look you you guys need to be ready uh for when I win uh we need your help

to reform the approval laws so that we can get some resource projects going like immediately um and uh you know I won't speak for her but Premier Smith from Alberta who's a fantastic leader has said she she's happy to help and she knows the energy sector inside out and backwards and I'm talking to for example Greg rickord from Northern Ontario he's the guy who's been champing the ring of fire which is all just a massive uh collection of minerals in Northern Ontario that we we've been talking about mining for the last 15 years and hasn't

been able to get approved he's the one who's got the plan to approve that so I've been talking with him a lot um and uh you'll see more names come forward as the as we get closer to the election okay okay so so your your fundamental plan is to eliminate obstacles let's say bureaucratic obstacles procedur obstacles and to facilitate growth out of Canada's current Mala yes and you see that a lot of what you've talked about today is on the resource front and so and you have Premier who are going to back that um Canada

is also a sophisticated Nation there's we're we're more than hewers of wood let's say and drawers of water and purvey of energy um why don't you talk a little bit about let's presume for the sake of argument that you have two terms 8 years yeah let's say and which is not an I think that that's a reasonable prognostication if things go at least moderately well right and so eight years from now what is the Canada that you are planning to lead what does it look like I think it's a country where any young person can

say this is the place to start a business this is the per place to take a risk and break through it's a country where um a country of adventurers explorers inventors workers people who are extremely ambitious and rewarded for that ambition um it's a place where not only do we graduate brilliant engineers in Kitchener waterl where we do some of the best in the world yes but but they say hell no I'm not leaving Canada this is the place to be this is where uh the best tech company is hiring the next 700 people this

is where I can get the best salary and this is where I can keep most of my paycheck oh and by the way it's now affordable for me to buy a home here in Canada um it's a place where so that's the best rejoinder to the Americans I would say fundamentally you know for Canadians who are concerned about undue American influence on Canada the best possible rejoiner would be to make Canada a place so welcome to entrepreneur entrepreneurs that the US would pale in comparison that's a tall order because the Americans are deeply entrepreneurial and

have a very business-friendly Society right like yes at every level right they reward entrepreneurial activity okay so and so I I want to see that we we you know for the first 14 years of this Century Canada had more American Investment than America had Canadian investment in other words we were winning the TG of- war of capitalism with the greatest capitalist economy the world has ever seen um and then in from 2015 to present we've there's been a net outflow of a half a trillion dollars measured in USD from Canada to the US it's astonishing

when in the last 10 years half a trillion half a trillion which is and that's in American dollars that's 700ish billion in Canadian uh which is the equivalent of about a quarter of our economy has just left it's Canadian investment I mean the government admits that the Pension funds are now investing in the states Canadian Pension funds Canadian rsps they're all invested because that's where you get the best return right now I want to bring that back right so that's like $40,000 per Canadian something like that that's right so why we bring that $20,000 per

Canadian 80,000 per family but let's bring it back uhuh let's bring it back let's make this the best place to get a return on your investment let's make this the best place in the world to do business to bring hundreds of billions of dollarss of investment to be dig mines build pipelines business centers um new tech companies drill uh high-tech Enterprises that you not only invent here but you actually keep here because it's not just a great place to lose money but a great place to make money um that I that is the bright optimistic

future I see I'm looking at models for this you look at Ireland Ireland my grandfather came from Ireland uh you know what a half a century ago because Ireland was too poor well now Ireland's per capita GDP is twice Canada they're they're now $100,000 per capita GDP in Canada it's 50,000 so what did the Irish do they cut taxes they shrunk government government is only 23% of the economy 40% here right and so they made it Tech friendly made it very Tech friendly so like 70% of the American 75% of the of the Irish economy

excuse me is free enterprise um and that's why they're just cooking with gas look at Singapore Switzerland um there are countless uh Israel after the 90s becoming startup Nation uh the recipe book is already written we know what to do unleash free enterprise remove the constraints cut taxes and allow people to prosper yeah well I've heard great things about the uh the graduates from the University of water people in in in uh the people I know in Silicon valy yeah yeah they're our biggest export right now yeah well they feel that they're the equivalent at

least of the graduates of the Indian Institute of Technology and I mean the Indians have had a massive influence in Silicon Valley and so Canadians well that's that's only one place where Canadians are not making nearly the use of their resources that they could that's on the on the human resource front with regard to Engineers well you think graduate from waterl and you you can pay 53% tax in Canada or 18 or 19 in Texas you can pay uh $1.5 million for an average house in Canada or you can buy a castle for $400,000 in

the States you can make Canadian dollars which is 69 C uh equivalent of the US dollar or you can make an American dollar it's unfortunately uh there's the pull is very hard but we're why don't we get us pulling in the other direction why don't we make this the most attractive place for these Brilliant Minds to come out of these schools and and build it here and keep it here and I think we can do that okay so what are you going to do when you take a office like how what what does that look

like practically so what could Canadians what could Canadians watch you do in the first months of your Administration that would help reassure them that this is going to happen this is real well first of all I'm going to ask the carbon tax it's been kind of an epic commitment that I've made it's iconic and so I have to follow through on it immediately and that will signal to the country that I'm serious second we want to get rid of the GST on new homes uh and make past changes that incen aggressively incentivize municipalities to get

the building started that has to happen immediately for people to notice any difference in the the cost of housing by the time I get through my fourth year um we will have rapid introduction of the biggest Crackdown on crime in Canadian history uh a massive Crackdown and what do that look like crack down on on on crime basically habitual offenders will not get out of jail anymore right right 1% of the criminals commit 65% of the crimes is that right I didn't know that yes well they criminals specialize just like everyone else right and and

the best predict of offense in the future is repeat offense in the past right right so in Vancouver they had to arrest the same 40 offenders 6,000 times one year yeah well that's exactly a consequence of that specialization right when we did this last time in the Harper government uh we actually reduced crime by 25% but interesting this is a very big surprise incarcerations went down because the people that we kept in prison were in and out anyway way it was like the hotel California they were checking out but they were never really leaving so

we had to basically save them a bed but secondly the smalltime offenders were actually deterred you know all of the so-called experts say deterrents don't work no they do work yeah the best deterrent turns out to be probability of conviction rather than length of sentence and right now though it's it's worse than that even if you have a probability of conviction there's a certainty that there won't be any real penalty right right that's not a real conviction that's not a real conviction so there's going to be a very serious Crackdown on crime U immigration what's

what's the scoop there oh we have to slow down the numbers there's no doubt about it uh we have to end the fraud in the international student and the temporary foreign worker program um we have to well Canada historically had a very effective immigration policy best we just have to get back to the best system in the world which we had for 150 years um even in the United States both Democrats and Republicans used to say they get up at a microphone claim they were going to replicate our system because it was an undeniable success

immigration was not even controversial before Justin Trudeau because it was so well-managed here for so long and and we just need to get back to clearly viewed as a net benefit by the immigrants and by Canadians absolutely and in fact the support for immigration was strongest in kind of the rural resource and agricultural communities where the was most needed and welcomed and uh people integrated they arrived here and while they were we said to people look bring your traditions and culture and your stories but leave the problems at the door and so and this is

by the way a history for Canada that goes back hundreds of years I mean the the Protestants and Catholics were ripping each other's eyeballs out in Europe for centuries um and then they came to Canada and they got along they ultimately ended up intermarrying and integrating completely and um you know whether you were an orangeman or a uh or a cathol Irish Catholic you you over time you got along with your neighbor and uh you know in the last nine years we've seen that's come apart the foreign foreign conflicts are now spilling onto our streets

I want to put an end to that I want to say look we're not interested in the world's uh ethno cultural conflicts we're well we welcome Shadow side of multiculturalism we welcome the people who come from places that have been afflicted by War as long as they leave the war behind and frankly that was most people come here to get away from those things so um by getting back to a common sense of values and identity and reminding people that they are when they get here they are Canadian first Canada first um leave the hyphens

we don't need to be hyphenated Society we need right so we can abandon the postnationalist state rhetoric and presume that Canada does have a western identity founded on the a prior principles of Western democracies and that that is a uniting ethos for the come here and that we we owe a debt of gratitude to the Giants who came before us who fought in Wars who laid down a parliamentary democracy uh and who left us behind the inredible inheritance yeah I mean we're going to be grateful again and we're going to inculcate the values of gratitude

for our incredible history uh build up the country um celebrate what we have in common rather than dividing what what obsessing about what divides us um focusing on the shared values that make us all Canadian um and I think in in so doing we can and by the way put aside race this obsession with race that wokeism has reinserted well invented even invented in many ways when I moved to Toronto it was as race blind as any country as any City could be right right and that's flipped and it's flipped because of that obsessive concern

with race right that was something we 100% did not need in Canada right it's we we basically what would you say import Ed and invented racism in Canada right well as a consequence of policy wokeism seeks to divide people into these different groups and subgroups and we see the results in a 250% increase in hate crimes but we're going to get back to the basic principle that people are judged based on their individual character and and Humanity rather than by their group identity and that is actually ironically the most unifying thing we can do to

bring our country back together and and as uh Lincoln put it to bind up the nation's wounds all right so we started the conversation with a description of the manner in which the intergenerational compact that makes up the nation had started to become violated or Fray right you said that young people in particular you talked about middle-aged people and business people as well well but you said young people felt that even if they did act responsibility responsibly and even if they did undertake uh the adventure of their life the entrepreneurial adventure of their life that

the probability that they would be successful even in the Centrist middle class manner that Canadians had become accustomed to that had become what had an unlikely that had become an unlikely outcome and so your vision it sounds to me is to at minimum restore that social contract so that young people who are interested in adopting responsibility and taking some risk can be assured that that will meet with success and you think that you have the team that's in place that can make that possible yeah so what have you let's close with this how are you

a different person than you were 2 and a half years ago me um I would say I'm tougher what does that mean tough it's like you watch a boxing match and you see these guys get hit again and again and again you say how is it that you can take a punch the average person takes a punch like that on the street they'd collapse well once you've taken a punch you know how to take a punch and uh when you run for leader of a the oldest and biggest political party in the country and you're

trying to uh change challenge the vested interests uh then you're going to take a lot of punches and I have and I've withstood those punches and as a result I feel stronger now than I did when I started I don't feel I have beaten down I feel emboldened and strengthened from that uh running through that Gauntlet right right so that hasn't demoralized not at all no in fact to the contrary I feel more invigorated than ever before why because I think uh because I have a mission there you know I um it was was it

Frankle that said he who has a why can withstand any what anyhow anyhow anyhow yeah um and I have a why I know why I'm doing this and uh I want to get this done for the country and I want to leave behind the opportunity for every other Canadian the chance I had as a kid and um I know I it's personal for me you know I don't come from uh a privileged or wealthy background I was adopted uh by school teachers grew up in a normal Suburban neighborhood we didn't always have money um but

I was able to get here MH and my wife's the same story you know she came here with nothing and she's had a great life her family's had a great life I love that about this country and the F the idea that I could restore that as my life's work for other people to me that is uh exhilarating that excites me if that could be my the only thing I do with my career that would be an incredible incredibly rewarding outcome right right all right well thank you sir um it's very good to talk to

you hopefully it won't be two and a half years before we speak again no we should do it more often yeah well it's a very good forum for apprising people of of your plans and your progress and so and uh also I on behalf of all Canadians want to thank you for your immense courage and the personal political price that you personal political and non-political price that you have paid for standing up for your convictions and defending freedom of speech because I know you have paid a very big price for that but you have never

bent you have never backed down you had a spine of Steel and there are countless other people who will have the freedom to express themselves because you paid the price for them so thank you oh thank you sir it's been a it's been a privilege far more than a price definitely and it continues to be that way all right so for everybody watching and listening I'm going to talk to Mr PV for another half an hour on the daily wire side as you know and I think probably what we'll do there is drill down a

little bit on Canada US relations um the DW audience is very American oriented and so that seems to be perfectly appropriate and it's something that we didn't cover in any great detail in this on this side of the conversation and seems particularly appr propo given that Trump has been making jokes about uh Trudeau being the governor of the 51st state and has also threatened to put 25% tariffs on Canada which I think is more of a ploy than a genuine threat but it's definitely something that needs to be discussed and so we'll talk about the

uh trials for Canada of having the Americans as their southern neighbor but also the immense opportunities that go along with that so um well we occupy the same continent so it' probably be best if we got along you know uh uh swimmingly so that's what we'll discuss on The Daily wi side so be uh be more than welcome to join us there thank you again sir thank you [Music]