Joe Rogan Experience #2320 - Tom Segura

Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day. Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. What's wrong with you? How? First of all, how did Netflix let you make this show? Well, they wouldn't have let me make it if I just pitched it to them. What did you do? I made a few. I made a few and showed it to them. Oh my god. Cuz I I knew I knew that uh like that if Well, you can't give anybody like the script. No. No. The script won't work. The script won't work.

I mean, that's just that's the thing is like it's very funny. Very funny. Thanks, man. It's um so ridiculous. It's pretty ridiculous. You know, it was a few years ago that I made the like the initial one. It was um I was on that crazy tour, that real crazy tour where it was like, you know, [ __ ] 10 shows a week and I had a break coming up and so I've always liked movies, like features, right? But it's it's a lot it's a huge undertaking to get a feature made, but I like short films

because it feels like you're making a movie, you know, like a mini movie, right? Right. And it feels much more accessible to do. So, I had written all these like short stories, short films, and I called my friend Rammy Hash and I was like, "Hey, I have a break coming up on tour. Let's shoot a short film." Because we had done other things before. And when I sent him, I sent him like 10 different scripts. He was like, "What if we did three of these?" I was like, "How can we do three of them?" He's

like, "We'll shoot like 11 days in a row. We can do three of these stories." And even then, I wasn't thinking of like having a television series. I was just like, "Oh, it'll be fun to make these these stories, you know." And so after we shot those three, it was clear that we had like like the, you know, the bones of a show, like what if we what if we did a a show that was based on short stories, you know, like short films basically. And I don't know, I I there's there was another there's

another few that were in the original and when I sent them in to Netflix, they were like, "This is [ __ ] insane." But like we'll make six episodes of this. And yeah, they were just like this is crazy. But it's been it's been the most fun I've ever had, dude. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Because you know what? I was thinking about it like on my way in here today. I was like sometimes you have to remind yourself like of what your like your dream like your original dream, you know? And my dream when I moved

to LA had nothing to do with standup. I never thought of standup. Not to say that I don't love doing standup today. I like I I'm in love with standup. But I moved to LA because I was like, "Oh, I want to do movies." Like that was my whole thing. I want I want to do comedy movies. And I had like my own blueprint for how I would do it. I was like, "I'll go to the Groundlings. SNL will definitely hire me from there." Like this is like my 21-year-old brain. And then I'll do that

for a couple years and then I'll do movies. Like I I thought that was a logical game plan to to to end up in movies and it just you know I did do the ground links for a while the school but when I was supposed to do writing lab which was like one of their levels I had started standup and I was just like oh this path is just better for me like I I was getting traction not like my career wasn't moving but I'm saying like I could feel how much I loved it and

I was starting to get like 50 bucks here and there and I was like oh it's not doing the writing lab thing. It's staying in the standup path, you know, like that's kind of like interesting. But the dream of like of doing something like movies, which is like this feels like to me like they sent me to film school and they were like, "Make your [ __ ] up movies." Uh, that's what it felt like. That's been like I was, you know, I was working like 16 hour days doing this thing and I would come

home and Christina would be like, "I have never seen you so energized after working all goddamn day." She's like, "You come home in the best mood." I was like, "Yeah, cuz I'm having fun. Like, I'm having so much fun doing this, you know." Well, that shows you're doing the right thing. I think so. I mean, it was like that is so uniquely you. It is, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's our [ __ ] text thread. It pretty much is. There are some in here that I can't wait for you to see. Like, there are

some in here that I literally cannot wait for you to see. She This morning, she goes, "Why is it called bad thoughts? It should be called [ __ ] thoughts." She's like, she's like, "I swear there's dicks in like every other one." I'm like, "Yeah." She's like, "Dicks and violence? That's your your wheelhouse. We need more of this in the world." Yeah, we really do. Um the you know that um that show the um the religious show on Max. Why? Why am I not remembering it? Righteous. Righteous gemstones. Oh yeah. [ __ ] a Yeah,

man. dude. Danny McBride. Yeah. He's [ __ ] fantastic. Yeah, he's fantastic. The But the whole cast, the whole cast is the [ __ ] show is so good. It's so funny. Gogggins, Adam Divine, John Goodman. Oh, yeah. Everyone's amazing. They're all fantastic. But it's also so ridiculous. Yeah. It's like, thank God. It's like, it seems like for a while people were getting scared of making anything offensive. I know. Oh, and it also feels like so many studios, networks, platforms, whatever you want to call it, are like so distanced from comedy. Like it's like comedy

is like it's too dangerous. It's very like Well, what's weird is you can get away with so much in a drama. In a drama, you could have violence and theft and car accidents. You could [ __ ] kill people and rape people and steal all their money and and that's okay. Yeah. for some reason. But like there's something about doing comedy that's offensive or even potentially offensive. Yeah. The other thing is that there's the offensive angle. I also think that they really [ __ ] the bed on literally backing truly funny material like the com

so many studio comedies that that are released the the critic people are like why didn't this work? Cuz it's not good. It wasn't funny. It's not a funny comedy. But don't you think part of that is because they can't take any real chances? Yeah. There I think a studio is always, you know, the like if you strip everything down, it's somebody that has to have some risk in their job. They're playing with millions of dollars and saying like this this will make us money, right? And so yeah, they they start to get more apprehensive about

it. The other thing is that the cost of some of these comedies when comedies were really thriving last, which was I think like more than 20 years ago, some of these comedies started to cost like 30 million plus to do a comedy. Yeah. Because sometimes you had like huge stars and huge set pieces and you'd have these enormous budgets. Yeah. Like real and now some of them like Tropic Thunder I think did probably pretty well at the box office, right? But a lot of them would uh not. And so it started to be like, hey,

you know what? We can make this. They start, that's why you see the explosion of certain genres, right? Like horror really has had a huge uptick the last decade plus. People can produce them for 5 million, but they don't realize that you can produce great comedies for 5 million also. You can, but you have to like prioritize the material first. It's got to be a great script, and they got to be willing to back it, you know, and I feel like they just haven't taken those those shots yet. What's kind of a tremendous opportunity, right?

Because of the fact that these big studios and these big stars are not doing those kind of films. Exactly. Like the door is wide open because the demand has never gone away. No, people want it. They want to laugh always. I'm doing one this summer. Yeah. I'm doing a movie this summer. Yeah. What are you doing? It's a crazy [ __ ] comedy. It's insane. It hasn't been announced yet. So, um you know how they are about that, but it's a it's a wild R-rated comedy. Well, tell me about it afterwards then. Okay. Yeah. Haha,

everybody else. Yeah. No, I can't I would love to talk about it, but um but I think we're we're doing kind of like what you're saying, which is like we're we're going to go all in on trying to make this really funny movie. Um and I I mean, I couldn't be more excited about it. And I think it's it's like it takes you realize when you're you know, you read it and you go, "This is it." We kind of do, you know, some punchups on the the script and then you just try to surround yourself

with amazing comedic talent, you know, like great actors and just have fun. Yeah. I think that's like that's awesome. Something that's missing. That's so cool. I didn't even know that that was your original dream and I've [ __ ] known you forever. I know. Yeah, it was I guess I was probably like I kind of was resigned to that's not going to happen too, you know? Not like I mean the other thing is like dude, every time I'm out on the road, you know, I would get a call, hey, they want to see you for

this part or you got an offer to shoot this show or this. Like here's the offer. And I'm like, "Yeah, I'm I'm on tour. Like, I can't move the [ __ ] United Center, you know? They don't care. They don't care. They just want that piece." And I'm like, "Dude, I They don't get a piece of that United Center." I know. I'm like, "I can't move all that shit." But that's also I realized that after years of that, it's like, well, if I'm always touring, I'm just never going to be able to do other people

stuff. Yeah. And so, it also kind of I got excited about, you know, having the summer off and I could do something. And then my tour, the current tour I'm on will end in December and I'm leaving 26 wide open. Really? Yeah. Film stuff. I'm going to Yeah. film some stuff and then I'll still do like what I do which is like go into your club or book some club weekends which are kind of like low, you know, stress kind of things where you go like I'm just going to go work out. So I'll I'll

try to keep the muscle fresh but I won't book like a tour, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, it's good to take breaks. It is, right? Tell you that, I took a big sort of a break. I've just been doing the club. How's it? Since I did my live special. Yeah, it's uh very nice. It's not It's great having no pressure. So, like I just talk about what I want to talk about and I write about what I want to write about instead of going I got to put an hour together cuz I have a tour

in three months, right? Like I have to make sure this hour is tight. I have to You just kind of take your time with it. And I think there's there's something to be said for taking breaks uh with standup in particular because like you don't want to just have tools that you use to do a job, right? You want to actually like you have to kind of figure out what am I investing all my time in these subject matters. Like what am I what am I what what is like what's interesting to me and how

much time is that going to take to figure out what the perspective is where I can just say it on stage. Yeah. Cuz I feel like with a lot of comics, there's a thing happens where you get kind of like locked into um a set and then you abandon that set and there's this mad scramble to come up with a new set. Yes. And a lot of times when you're doing that new set, it's not re you're not invested in it. It just, you know, you can make it effective, right? You know what I mean?

This kind of feels like filler. Yeah. Yeah. I know exactly what you mean. And the the audience feels that too. I think they definitely do. They do. They do cuz I feel it as an audience member. I know when someone's doing that and I go, "This is not I'm not connecting with this at all." Right. But if it's something that you can tell the person wants to talk about, it resonates. It's different actually. Interesting. That's the thing. It's like, you know, as I've gotten older, I've thought much more about standup. And I there's a lot

of standup is kind of like unspoken. I think a lot of it is hypnosis. Really? Yeah. There's a weird thing going on. And I I get I get it from like great comedians. Like when I was a kid, there was this guy named Frank Santos, the R-rated hypnotist, and he would go on stage and make people do stuff and like you're having sex with Madonna. It was really weird. Yeah, there was a a flow to the way his confidence was something about him and he was also an actual hypn like you know hypnotize people to

quit smoking and [ __ ] like and there was something that he was doing where I was like what is he doing like how is he like what is this connection where it's just so funny like how is he getting into these people's heads like what is hypnosis and then I see like a guy like a tell on stage when he's killing and I recognize something in I'm like he's hypnotizing ing us. There's something that he's doing this effortless effortless confidence and connection to what he's talking about and great material also. So you give him

the reigns. You're like, "Oh, this material is so good. I'll give you the reigns. Take my brain. Take my brain. Take my brain. Take my brain." And the rhythm of the cadence, too, cuz he has a very particular cadence. And you, you know, if you hang out with him or work with him like I did a few times, you start doing the cadence. A lot of people do start doing the cadence. And I did that. I did that um in like 05 06 when I was like he was on his show and his his first

like killer album came out, Skanks for the Memories. Yeah. I mean, I feel like I would be talking like to you like this and I get on stage like how's everybody doing? Like I would just start doing because it's such like a hypnotic type of cadence. Yeah. Patrice always says that about like having babies. Like that's his babies. Yeah. Like David has a bunch of babies. Yeah. It's like bunch of people that gave he gave birth to their 100%. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's super normal. A lot of people have that. But it's it's interesting how

that stuff works that that that that there's a thing that's going on which is why live standup is so much better than stand up on television. Dude, I also had this thing recent because I'm on tour right now. I realized that like man it's funny how I could be I could be like tired and being tired take I go on stage in a different mindset and all of a sudden I'm like wow that was a way better set like I had the right amount of tired not tired where I can't think but more relaxed more

yeah and then and then I get off and like my whole tour crew was like that was [ __ ] an amazing show and I'm like yeah I feel like I too tired to be like self-conscious or something. You know what I mean? Right. Right. Like like so some some of my self awareness went away but like the right degree of it went away. Yeah. And then the show just felt and then you locked in with them. Yeah. I also like to tell myself sometimes if I remember that I'm best on stage if I'm going

on stage in a silly mindset. If I'm goofing off backstage. Yes. [ __ ] around. You know. Yes. making fun of somebody that's like in my crew or something. I don't know, you know, like dancing in the green room like just silly. That that mindset walking up on stage is like the best one to go on stage with. That's why I used to love working with Joey so much. Yeah. Because well, two things. One, Joey would make me laugh like while he was on stage. I'd be waiting to go on stage instead of thinking about

my material and going over everything with a fine tooth comb. I'd just be laughing and then I go on stage laughing. And that's that that's the thing is that's an unspoken thing that the audience goes like there's joy coming from this person. Yes. You know, they feel the joy. Yeah. They really do. Cuz like there's nothing grosser than fake laughs. Yeah. When a comedian does the fake laugh thing, it's [ __ ] gross. It just like when you know they've said that [ __ ] same joke the same way every night with the same laugh.

Yeah. Like you're tricking me. You're tricking me. Yeah. You're tricking me. You're a hooker. It's so uh manufactured, you know, it's so calculated, which is fine. I mean, whatever. Do whatever you want, but it's like there's there's a thing that comes with that that's like, okay, I'm never going to be fully locked in, but maybe I can just appreciate this for, you know, like I'm watching a sitcom. Yeah. You know what I mean? And then there's also nothing as fun as genuine laughter on like if if something really makes you laugh while you're doing a

set, that's the most fun. Oh, for sure. And that becomes contagious. It's like that's why the bits work so good when you first start doing them and then sometimes they die off cuz you're getting tired of it and you're not laughing anymore. Yeah. Whereas like there's certain things like at the subject when you first start talking about it where you're you're like what the [ __ ] is going on? How is this a real thing? It's so funny because we were just talking about how there's certain bits where you it kills. Like it kills, right?

Mhm. And then over the next few months it dies. It dies slowly. Yeah. And you're trying to do the math. You're like, "Wait, am I saying it different? Am I like is you go listen, right? Did I miss a beat or something? Did I miss some connective tissue? Right. What's going on? And it just like by the end you're like, "No, it's fully dead. It has died. I don't know what happened." You just got to be able to accept that they're dead. Yeah. That's such a funny thing though that happens. I have a bunch of

bits I call orphans. I have a file of orphans. Oh, like they're all bits that just never made it onto a special. Like someone comes up to me like every now and then one of my friends will come up to me like, "Do you do that [ __ ] is that on anything?" thing. I'm like, that one's just an orphan. It's just floating around. It doesn't fit with anything. And it's all so [ __ ] up. And sometimes you like, you ever try to bring those back? I brought some back that didn't make it. And

sometimes they get new life. Yeah. And then sometimes you're like, "Oh, there's a reason why I didn't carry this one." You know, when they pop up is Bottom of the Barrel. Oh, yeah. Bottom of the It's the best show. The bottom of the barrel. Every now and then I'll pull something out. I go actually I have a [ __ ] ancient bit on this that I can if I could kind of remember it. That's the other thing is your memory starts to Mhm. on the old stuff you My memor is gone on my last special.

It's gone. That's the That's the best thing that can happen. Yeah. Oh yeah. It's gone. I get called out to, you know, do this bit and I go, I I honestly don't remember how it goes. Like I'll start it and then I'll forget. Right. You want to do it? Yeah. And then some they'll know it. They'll know it better than you. You're like, oh yeah, I remember. Yeah. Sometimes that's good. That would be funny if they did it. They acted it out. It's pretty fun. Yeah. Because there's certain bits like they just leave your mind.

It's like I'm done with this. But did you did you like any of the acting stuff? Cuz I know you don't have any interest in doing it anymore, but did you enjoy it? Yeah. Yeah. News Radio was really fun. That was fun. That was fun. I I didn't mind doing it. It's just I didn't like it as much and I didn't like the time commitment that these these I mean, I don't sound like I'm complaining. Oh, he's acting so hard. But it's like you're working these long ass days. And as a person who likes to

do a lot of different things, that becomes a problem. And you were on a multicam. Exactly. Imagine if you were on a single cam. Way harder. Single cams are crazy. I had friends that are on single cams. I was like, "Oh my god, how are you doing this?" They were working six days a week and they would work at like 12, 15 hours a day. Yeah. Like this is so crazy. Like I like to do a bunch of stuff, man. I like to do jiujitsu. I like to play pool. Are you rolling again? No, I'm

still injured. I'm still dealing with uh some small It's a lot better now. Lower back issue and uh a little bit of a knee issue, but that's pretty good, too. My little guy quit jiu-jitsu. Why? Why'd he quit? It's the funniest thing. They both go, both my boys go. And we uh we take them in and my youngest is like, "This is my last one." He's six. And I go, "It's your last one?" He goes, "Dude, my schedule is crazy." I go, "What? He's sick copying his dad. Yeah, he's talking like me and he goes,

"I have a full plate." And I go, "You have a full plate." He goes, "I go kindergarten. I got Spanish. Do drums. I don't have time for this." That's hilarious. And then he told the instructor, he told the the guy in charge. I was like, "Tell him." He goes, "I won't be coming back. I have a very full schedule." And so that guy kind of like smiled and he goes, "Well, what do you have?" He goes, "I told you kindergarten, drums, Spanish. I don't have time to do everything. He's sick. Six. And I go, "Yeah."

Is this the one who calls you Tom? Uh, well, they both did for a while, but but yeah. So, he goes, "Uh, the but the instructor was great." He goes, "Okay, okay." He goes, "Well, in life you have to be strong, right?" And my kid goes, "Yeah." He goes, "It's not an option." And he goes, "Yeah." He goes, "So, if you have to be strong, then you have to do this." And my kid's like, "Yeah." He goes, the instructor goes, "So, I'll see you at Thursday." And he sticks out his fist. And my kid goes,

"I told you I'm too busy. I will be here." And so he hasn't gone. But this is the thing about kids is like he hasn't gone now in like a month. And then now he's like, "Hey, I want to go back to jiu-jitsu." I'm like, "Of course." So, of course. And also his older brother is doing very well. Ah, that's a problem. got he got a new belt, you know, and and he's my older brother's like [ __ ] him up and talking mad [ __ ] all day. Takes his shirt off every day and

he goes, "I'm going to be so [ __ ] jacked." So he's like, "A [ __ ] I got to get back in there." That's hilarious. Yeah. Yeah. You got to hedge your time. Like you have to figure out like what what do you want to do? You are the mo you're the most uh insane in my book for a person who does the most different things because you are you're highly proficient at archery, jiujitsu, shoot and pull, fitness, this [ __ ] stand up. Like that's a lot of different things to be like very

good at. Well, I have to pick my spots. Yeah. You know, because I'm a obsessive person, right? So like I have to like that's why I don't [ __ ] with golf. That's why I don't [ __ ] [ __ ] golf will get you, dude. Video games will get me. I stayed away from video games for 20 years about about 20 years and we got a console. Uh oh. Well, here's the thing. I actually found that I am busy enough where I in my brain I can go, yeah, I can't I can't I can

I can do 20 minutes on certain days and get like a little dopamine kick from it, like have fun. Um but most of the time I walk by it and I go, I want to I got I have time to play. My problem is if I put that 20 minutes in, I'm I'll be up till 5 in the morning. I'll go I don't need sleep. I just won't work out tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'll just show up half in the bag. I'll eat a lot of creatine so my brain works. Do you know to

do that? Yeah. I started doing it every day. Yeah. But that's a really big one for sleep deprivation. Really? Yeah. There was some sort of study where they showed that it completely uh diminishes the effects of sleep deprivation. If you take I think it's 20 grams I think 20 grams of creatine something crazy like that. I've been doing that. I have a whole new sleep protocol I'm doing. Oh, a sleep protocol with like I'm saying a bunch of peptides and [ __ ] Yeah. Oh, I just ordered an aura ring to track my sleep. That's

good. Have you do you have to try that pineal peptide? No, I haven't. I heard about it. You were telling me it really ramped up your REM sleep. [ __ ] awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Nice. Yeah. Anything for more sleep I'm into, man. Tell you what really affects quality sleep. No drinking. That really affects my sleep a lot. Really? Oh, yeah. Were you drinking a lot? Not a lot. Not like Bert levels, but um like last time I was sober, I was with him. We were all It was like It was a great table. It was

like Taylor Sheridan and his wife. My wife was there, Bert and his wife, David Gogggins and his wife. Oh, wow. And then a bunch of my professional pool player friends. That's a fun table. Oh, it was [ __ ] phenomenal. We had so much fun. We all had dinner together after uh the UFC fight. And Bert is just throwing back martinis. Yeah. And I was like, "Oh, I definitely made the right choice." Yeah, I definitely made the right choice. Like, I'm watching him. He's slowly turning into a human grape in front of my eyes. He's

[ __ ] redded face. He was hilarious. He was, I'll tell you that. At the table, we were having a lot of laughs. Yeah. But I was like this. He can knock him down, dude. He can really knock him down, bro. He found out we were leaving, so he ordered two more to down on the way out the door. He just downed two martinis. Like just down these martinis on the way out the door. I'm like, "This is [ __ ] preposterous. It's preposterous." And then I talked to him and he goes, "I got all

my blood work done. Perfect. Everything's perfect." I know. But how's that possible? He always says that. And I saw somebody comment the other day on our podcast. They go, "The documentary about Bert's doctor who says blood work is perfect is going to be unbelievable. It's a complete charlatan. It's got to be, dude. It's got to be dirty lab co with a [ __ ] mouse in his pocket. Like crazy guy. Complete lunatic. He was like, "You're great." Oh my god, that's so funny. So funny. That's so funny. Yeah. He We had dinner and he was

like, "Wine? Wine? Anybody want wine?" And I was like, "I'm good." He's like, "We'll do a bottle of wine for the Nobody had wine." So he just dumps the bottle into his glass and he can drink it in like five minutes. It's crazy. It's bizarre. Well, it's obvious like it's got to be an adaptive thing, right? Like running is like if you run never, you can't run a marathon, right? But if you run a lot, you can run a marathon. Sure. You get used to it. Your body gets accustomed to putting in the miles five

before work every day. You know, we always talk about that freak show [ __ ] he has in him. Like he's freak. Yeah. Yeah. He's freak. Yeah. We we did the the 5K in in Tampa. We had like 8,000 people come out this year. It's crazying. And um so many people that are like, you know, making Look at that. Yeah. Making leaps. By the way, how good is Jelly Roll look, dude? Do you know what he's down? 200 lb. Yeah. And from last year, 130. That's amazing. And he's like, I want to lose another 100.

That's insane. So, what's he at now? He's at 340. So, he wants to get down to 240. Wow. He wants to get to 240. He's a big guy for him. 240 is probably right. Yeah, it's probably And and I, by the way, we were talking before he got there, the 5K had it was in Raymond James Stadium where the Bucks play. Mhm. So, I was like, well, how are we mapping out 3.1? Well, the only way to do that in a a venue of this size is you had to like use every, you know, square

inch of the place. So, they had us go up the ramp. Like, if you're going to go up to the top, you there's a ramp that goes up. It's nine stories up of all incline. Oh, boy. And then you go across, then you go down, and you go up again. Oh, lot of incline. Like half a mile plus of incline, right? So, before Jelly gets here, I'm like, I don't know if he can do this, man. You know what I mean? Like, he's a big guy still. Knees, cardio, all this [ __ ] dude. He

[ __ ] smashed it. That's incredible. He did. He did great. Did he hire a trainer? Like how is he What is he doing? I think some people he got rid of his phone. I know. He has like a flip phone that like doesn't even like that you can I don't even know if you can get texts on it. So yeah, he he just chucked his phone out. Apparently like all the years of drinking, he just gave his phone number out to so many people and he decided instead of getting a new number Yeah. which

is what you should do. Yeah. He's like I'm just no phone. [ __ ] That's [ __ ] awesome by the way. It's crazy. I love like I used to panic when I left my phone behind. Now when I forget my phone, I'm like, "Oh, it's gonna be a great day. Like, I left my phone. I'll get it later." Like, I'm just I feel fine. It's a great feeling. Yeah. Yeah. We're all prisoners. We are totally prisoners. We're prisoners. And it's going to get worse. Oh, this is the thing I wanted to tell you. So,

some of the Bucks players came out, the offensive linemen. These are absolute beasts. 65, 66, 330. Like just giants. They're gorillas. And we're doing all this silly competition stuff like we hit the the golf simulator, throw a [ __ ] spear into like a bail of hay and then they're like, "Oh, we need one more thing." So we have a beerstein holding contest. So it says, "Oh, Bert won that." Yeah, he he beat [ __ ] all pro. He's been hold That's like Come on, man. But look at these. Does that make sense? It does

make sense, but you still go like the skinny guys can throw a baseball a lot faster than these dudes. It's just crazy to me though. Like not to me. The upper bodies on these dudes. I'm like, "No, they're they're these guys are Yeah, he's going to win. He's used to holding beers." Yeah, he's used to holding drinks. I couldn't do it. I tapped out. I like my arm just gave out. And then Look at him. He's still smiling. Oh yeah. He had nothing wrong. That's insane. Yeah. And then um Yeah, they they slowly fell. I

bet if he did his left arm, it would fall off. I bet he literally wouldn't be able to. He's been holding up drinks so long. Also like toasting crowds for so long. Look at this. Yeah, he beat everybody. He should hold out and just humiliate them after he's done. Just keep going. Oh, he held it up after he was done. That big guy looks like he's ready to ready to break. He gave up. Yeah. And he just Look at Bert. Didn't even look at this. Yeah. Just insane. He's a like got incredible genetics. Like if

he wanted to be an athlete, he'd be an incredible athlete. Yeah, I think so. If he was like super dedicated to it. Yeah. Yeah. He's just trapped trapped in booze. But it's also made him very rich. So I don't know what to say. Yeah. I love him, you know. I don't want him to change, but I do. I mean, I want him to be healthy, but like like when we first started doing Sober October, it was essentially just because we were worried Bert was going to die. Yeah. You know. Yeah. Well, he's still here. I

mean, the first one was the weight loss thing. Blood works perfect. Yeah. Yeah. It's nuts. What's What type of resistance is that? Um I don't know. I think it's likeund and something. And something? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm obsessed with you know that squeeze machine. Yeah. You know the thing? Oh, yeah. That measures your grip. I got 161 and I want to get 190. Oh, so you're training for it? Yeah. You have one here? No. Grip strength? I think we do. Yeah, we do out there. Yeah. Out in the hallway. But we do at the

club at the club. And so when the club when I first did it, I think I got 147. I was like, "Well, this is bullshit." Yeah. And then I got And then I got up to 161 without these things. I bet just from working out a lot. I bet uh David has a crazy grip strength. Which David? Lucas. Oh yeah, he's good. Big hands. Big hands. Jamar has one. Jamar Neighbors. I think he got 167. Damn. Jamar's strong. That's crazy. You've seen you seen him with his shirt off, right? Jack. Jack. Um, but uh, you

know, we've had some like big dudes come in there and do it. Um, I don't know who's got like the record on that thing. Record's got to be the UFC had a bunch of guys do it and I think I forget who had the highest, but I think um I think Alex Pereira was like 180. He was up in the like He's a big [ __ ] I didn't realize how big he I didn't real because you know TV is so deceptive. Oh yeah. And then I saw somebody I know standing next to him and

I was like holy [ __ ] Whiz Olivera 97. Oh that's crazy. He didn't even try. They're also doing their left hand. Michael Chandler 113. What? No. He's doing his right hand. Are you doing your opposite hand? Cuz Paul Craig I think is a lefty. 126. Bo Nickel. He's a lefty too. So they're doing their opposite hand. They're doing opposite hand. What's his 153 Wman's strong as [ __ ] Let me see what he's got. 153. Stipe is huge. What's he got? He's a left-hander, too. Yeah. Fireman strength. He's a big [ __ ] dude,

though. 131. Wow, that's crazy. Other hand. Other hand. 104. Oh, Jesus Christ. Second attempt. 155. All right. So, I'm stronger than all those [ __ ] There you go. [ __ ] yeah. But I'm trying to get to 190. 190 is crazy. I think this is like 115 or something like that. I forget what it is. Some of those uh squeeze that [ __ ] and [ __ ] hold it. Those arm wrestling guys. Oh, yeah. They have freaky forearms. I was watching this one guy who's a climber. Who's a professional climber and they do

this? Yeah. He has this basement gym. I might have saved the video, but I think if you find it on YouTube, it's like I've never seen strength like this. This guy has calves growing off of his forearm bone. It's like a calf. Yeah. And he's doing one finger chest. I don't understand it. With like a a cimeter of hold. Like it's the the tiniest little lip that his finger's resting on and he's pulling his whole body up. This guy. But I mean, he's doing the same thing. Yeah. Look at that. That's crazy. It's not this

guy. The other guy is like super jacked. His his forearms are at least. He's not like bodybuilder size, but the musculature is crazy. I saw one of those guys who I guess is in the rock climbing, mountain climbing world. He's considered one of Yeah, that's the guy. That's the guy. So, this guy does a bunch of freaky [ __ ] What is this dude's name? Yeah. Look at Look at the [ __ ] Look at that one arm thing. See that? The size of the grip. Look how fat that grip is. Like doing a one-

arm chin up is crazy. Look at his back, dude. It's crazy. But doing a one- arm chin, look at the size of his [ __ ] forearms. Yeah. Doing a one- arm chip is crazy, but a onear chin up with a fat grip like that is off the charts nuts. Like his strength must be insane. And but you look at him like right there, like his neck and everything, he doesn't look like that strong of a guy, right? It's very deceptive because with with climbers you can't have you don't need traps. You can't have like

excess stuff. So everything is very like look at his forearms. Look at his grips. But look the size of his [ __ ] forearms when he's doing that. It's crazy. See if you can isolate when they when he was doing that with his forearms. The NBA 82 game grind is done and now the real fun begins. The NBA playoffs are here and it's time for all the high stakes drama, clutch moments, and jaw-dropping plays. I can't wait. If you're looking to make the playoffs even more exciting, DraftKings Sportsbook has you covered as an official sports

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weight up and holding like gymnasts. Like who's more jacked than the guys who do the rings? No, they're super jack. Like look at his forearms. Look at the back up a little second and just freeze it. Look at freeze it right there. Freeze. Look at that left [ __ ] forearm. Yeah, that's crazy. That's nuts. There's a split in the muscle. That's a calf. Yeah, it's a calf. That's a calf. That's a like a strong calf. And this is like a big endorsement for calisthenics basically, right? I mean, isn't calisthenics are huge? Yeah, they're huge.

It's a big part of my workout. Really? Oh, yeah. I do a lot of calisthenics. I do, you know, I still do the 100 push-ups every day and the 100 bodyweight squats, but I do chin-ups, dips, and L L pull-ups, you know, like so you're with a close grip with the legs extended. I do all those. They're huge. Yeah, it's it's you want to be able to And the other thing a lot of do I do um hang from a bar like this where I swing my toes up and I touch the bar. So, it's

like really works your core too. That's like being able to manipulate your own body weight is crucial. Yeah. Cuz those gymnasts are like you're like some of them like I've never touched weights. I'm just doing this [ __ ] all which is nuts. And they have but it's not time efficient. Yeah. because they're doing that. Their muscles are like that because they're doing, you know, eight hour sessions. But you can get a lot done with your body with just dips and chin-ups a lot. Dips are incredible. Yeah. So good. I mean, that that was like

um I think when Arnold would talk about chest, he was like that's that was like the the you know the cherry on top for the workouts was doing he's like we always would do dips for this. And you could do weighted dips, too. Yeah. Dips are so easy to do with weight or throw a chain over your neck or put a weight vest on or something like that. Yeah, that's another thing I found like just a 25 pound weight vest where it doesn't feel like anything when you're wearing it, but when you do stuff with

it on like chin-ups and pull-ups, like holy [ __ ] makes a giant difference. So different. And then when you take that thing off, you're like, "Oh man." Right. So imagine being 25 lbs too heavy. Yeah. And then imagine being jelly roll. So Jelly Roll is walking around 200 pounds too heavy before at least. So it's actually 300 lb, right? Because he wants to lose another 100. Yeah. So imagine just carrying around everywhere you go. You got a squat rack like a like a real bar stuffed with plates and you're just carrying that through life.

Yeah, that's what they're doing. That's crazy. That's why those guys [ __ ] lower bodies are always crazy when they lose. Oh, Ralphie May used to have the biggest calves in the world. Yeah. His legs were like carrying around trunks. Oh my god. Yeah. Just carrying around that body all day. That's nuts. Mhm. If they And if they trimmed down enough, the quads are still humongous. Yeah. If Bert lost weight, he would get weaker. But you do get weaker when you lose weight. I mean, that's that's a fact. Yeah. That's always mass moves mass. It's

also like to lose weight, to lose body fat, your body has to think something's wrong. Like it's very difficult to maintain mass. like maintain muscle mass while you're losing fat. It's hard. That's hard. You got to be real careful with everything. Yeah, that's true. And you got to try not to lose too much weight too quick because a lot of people with we losing weight like a lot of people become food addicts and then the addicts act like addicts and you start thinking like I got to lose it all right now and so you starve

yourself and you just work out eight hours a day and well you're going to lose all your muscle too. Everything. You're gonna lose everything and you're probably going to get injured because your body's gonna like, "Hey, [ __ ] idiot." Yeah. And then like, "Give you that tendonitis. How about a little back bulge? And how about a [ __ ] sore knee? How about planter fasciitis? Slow the [ __ ] down." Your body tries to figure out a way to slow you down. Yeah. Uh slower slow and steady is the way for sure. Yeah. Yeah.

It just sucks. You know, you want to get if you've realized you [ __ ] up, it would be nice if you could just get better quick. like, "Oh, I just I got a month before summer and I'm 50 pounds overweight. [ __ ] [ __ ] I want to lose another six 10 15 right now." What do you want to do to do it? Um, just dial in. You know, it's really about consistency, I feel like, with me, right? Like my window for when I go, "Oh, shit." is just so much smaller than it

used to be. So, right now I'm like, "Oh, I've slid a little bit. I've been on tour. I've been doing all this [ __ ] I just have to tour." It's hard, right? You're like, "I'm working. [ __ ] it. Cheeseburger. Let's eat. Sometimes pizza. Sometimes it's that. Sometimes it's also just that like, you know, I get into this rhythm of the way I'm eating and training at home, which is pretty good. Yeah. And then you get out there and it's like, [ __ ] you know, we got on three planes and you're just tired.

You just don't do it. Y and then Yeah. You just order whatever to eat. So, you just feel it like slowly come apart. But I feel like I I'm also at a place where I know if I if I dial in my diet and and make sure I stay on top of like the training, I can shed this 10 pretty Yeah, you've done it before. Yeah, you did it pretty pretty well. You know, you figured it out. And then you also have muscle memory now. I think um it's hard when you're traveling because you know,

you're just anytime you're traveling your energy level goes down. Yeah. It's like you got to figure out things to mitigate that energy level going down. And then counterintuitively, the best way to do that is to work out. Yeah, I know. Which doesn't seem like it makes any sense cuz you're tired. I don't want to work out. A lot of times we do the land and lift. Got to do that. Like, right. Land and go. Yep. Land and go. Land and go. It is crazy how I do a lot of three-day, three, four day weekends, you

know, for tour. Man, a lot of times on that third, fourth day, you're like, you're in your third or fourth city and you're like, "Fuck, I am wrecked today. Mhm. Just like another plane, another time zone. Taking a lot of vitamins. Um I think I take a pretty good amount of vitamins. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's important, too. Yeah. Take a lot of vitamins. And then it's just hard to be strict with your diet when you're on the road. But um the big one is alcohol. I'm lucky in that regard because I'm not a big

boozer. Yeah. I don't know how Bert does it. I started eating these David bars. Oh, those are great. Those are great. Yeah. I think Peter T is involved in that, right? I don't know if you maybe Yeah, but those are delicious. They're great. Boy, they make you fart. I love farting. Um 28 28 grams of protein, 150 calories. Yeah. No sugar. They're great. Yeah, great. Yeah, there's a bunch of good options now that you could bring with you on the road if you get hungry. Keep you from eating [ __ ] From eating [ __

] That's all I'm trying to like sometimes I go like, "Oh, it was great. Today was a great day." And then it's just dinner. So, you're just like, "Just don't [ __ ] ruin your day." Have you ever had uh carnivore snacks? Do you know what that is? No. The carnivore snacks ribeye is my go-to. I bring that on the um UFC broadcast. Like I give them to Daniel Cormier and me. We eat them. It's like sliced ribe eyes that are just dried, but it's got the fat on it. It's good. Yeah. You don't feel

guilty at all. Like if you're hungry, need a snack, open them. It's just meat and salt. It's perfect. Perfect snack. And the company is called Carnivore. Yeah. Carnivore Snacks. M snacks with an X, but it's not like um it's not jerky. It's like they they describe it as like meat pastry. Yeah. It's good good snack food. I like it. Yeah. Just to keep from going off the rails. That's all you're trying to do. That's like I'm trying to do is just mitigate the damage of the day. Right. I have a whole folder on my phone

saved up of food that I really can't eat. Really? Just look at restaurants like Oh. What do you miss the most when you are trying to eat healthy? Italian food. Italian food. Pasta. Yeah. Pasta and crazy sandwiches. Oh my god. We went to uh Carbone. Oh, in New York. Yeah, they got one in Vegas now, too. I know. I think they've actually had the Vegas one for a while. It's so good, dude. So good. So good. That rigetoni with vodka sauce. And it has a little kick. They put a little spice in it. Oh, it's

good. It's so good. That's It's tough to beat Italian food. Really is. It's tough to beat it just for pure that pleasure of just over stuffing yourself. We were we were there for last summer. It was like every day. Yeah. You know, and the thing is I didn't like blow up. No, no, I thought I would. I mean, I'm sure I gained a few, but I I thought I was like, "Oh, this is going to be [ __ ] terrible." But it was I think a big thing there versus here is portion sizes, you know?

Like there's no such thing as they don't go here's your pasta, here's a [ __ ] bowl like this, you know? It's like it's Well, I think in Italy the real thing is the food's different. I think our food is poison. It's so bad, right? I mean, I saw Oh my god, I saw this lady on your show. I saw a clip talking about all these health epidemics, like the full run of stats where she was like one and two for cancer and this and that. Was it Cali Means? She was uh that I think

she was a doctor, right? Is she a doctor? Well, I don't think she finished her doctorate or her medical school training because I think she got to the position where she realized that most metabolic diseases are being caused by food. But that's the thing is like that's the big takeaway I think from that is like you have this conversation with you know I had with people all the time who travel abroad and you're just like everything in Japan was [ __ ] amazing the food and then you look at their longevity which is like record-breaking

and you know when you compare it to most of the world definitely compared to ours definitely compared to ours. Yeah we have the worst health stats in the western world. What? It's our food. But because it's all like because corporations because corporations profit off keeping you fat and sick. So the best way to make money from food is to get you addicted to food that they could sell you. So they sell you a tremendous amount of cheap shitty food that has a bunch of preservatives and garbage in it. Yeah. So it's, you know, potato chips

and all sorts of different snacks and all sorts of different things. And then you have your enriched air quotes flour that's got a bunch of [ __ ] poured into it and it's a bunch of complex glutens and the grains. And then you have glyphosate which other countries have banned but we use everywhere. And 90 plus% of people have glyphosate in their blood when they test it which is Roundup that chemical pesticide and herb. We have herbicides that kill your [ __ ] endocrine system. We have like we're poisoning ourselves. It's really sad. We're you

know we're growing stuff at home now. We have a hydroponic garden. Yeah, I talked to Christine about it. It's pretty dope. And it's And that shit's delicious. Yeah. The lettuce and the tomatoes and gets all kinds of like veggies. Tastes like real food. Yeah. You do taste the difference. 100%. Yeah. Which reminds me of when you're abroad, right? Cuz like you in Italy or in Japan, you have a tomato, you have a strawberry, you're like, "Whoa." Yeah. You're like, "Oh, this is what it's supposed to taste like." Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We We make stuff that

it can sit on the shelf forever. That's why our tomatoes look like they're albino tomatoes. They're like they're like and they're hard. Our tomatoes are hard. Yeah. Like why is a tomato hard? Like what is that about? Why does it stay hard for like weeks? Just sits there and then we just keep ingesting that. Yeah. It's terrible. And then you get all this inflammation in your body. And you know, we've sort of genetically modified a bunch of things so we could feed a bunch of people so we could have large numbers of people. And there's

a benefit to that. How much how much of of this like do you think is related to the fact that we have so many more people than some of these places? Oh yeah, that's a fact. But um it's not just that. So I think there's a bunch of factors and everybody wants to be real binary about it. Sedentary lifestyle is a big one. There's a large percentage of our population that doesn't move enough. They don't exercise. They don't do anything physical. So you got that and then you got years and years and years and years

of doing that which eventually catches you. Yeah. And so that's the people that start showing up at the hospital, you know, it's metabolic health, right? So and then you have lack of understanding of nutrition. Um which is they think, oh, you're you some [ __ ] doctor that tells you you just have to eat a balanced diet. You don't need vitamins. Well, that doctor is fat and stupid and probably has a bunch of diseases and he's on pills himself. Like shut up. probably never even went to through any nutrition training. You know, in in medical

school, they get about six hours of nutrition training. I think it's crazy that, you know, especially because we have kids in school, you realize that school still they don't emphasize nutrition or finance. I feel like that's another crazy thing. Oh, yeah. Is to keep people from understanding how finance works at all. It is crazy, right? like you're teaching kids about how to prepare yourself for the world and you don't teach them about debt and about interest. The first thing that happens when you're a freshman in college is you walk through the student union and they

go, "Do you want a credit card?" You're [ __ ] 18. Yeah. And they're like, you're like, "Yeah." They're like, "Yeah, it's got 29.9% APR. It's awesome." They're praying upon you. Yeah. They're literally praying upon you. And the school lets it like Yeah, go ahead. Oh, they they don't give a [ __ ] about you. You're [ __ ] crazy. Grist for the mill. Yeah. You're just literally you're you're paying [ __ ] you end up paying $300 for a Coke you bought. You know what I mean? Because you just like scammed like this is

insane. And we don't we don't teach anybody. It's really crazy. Well, also you get it in their head that they're [ __ ] because the debt that they're they're getting involved in with student loans is the only debt we have that you can't get rid of. Yeah. The only debt. Yeah. You can't forgive that. There are people right now who have social security getting docked. Their social security is getting docked for student loans for their student loans. So they made it to death and they owe money to the government for loans that did them no

good at all because they're living off social security. So the government gets to steal more money from your social security. We have to pay you. So nuts. And meanwhile like today the reality is you can get that education online. Yeah. Almost all of the books on any sort of subject are available. Mine is useless. My degree is used. What's yours in? Communications. Well, you're a communicator. Well, the degree you probably like they use you to sell more tickets. They probably do. But this guy, look, he went to our university. You should come. I mean, unlike

Tom, you you know, I didn't like you don't I didn't learn anything in But how much did you have to pay to go to school? Oh, man. Back. How much you in debt for? How much was the tuition? I think tuition when I was there was something like six or 7,000 a semester. So like 1213 um a year which you know whatever. Now [ __ ] tuitions now are like [ __ ] 50 $80,000 a year. It's crazy. So imagine you take on that loan, you you start your workforce, you have $300,000 in loans and

god forbid you go to graduate school. Oh my god. Compounds and then you're never getting out of the hole. I mean, I think this is why some doctors and lawyers become sociopaths because you are dealing with so much debt and you realize no one gives a [ __ ] about you. You don't give a [ __ ] about anybody else either. Wow. Yeah. It's great for society. Yeah. It's also like you you there's two things that could be true, right? I do think that you kind of have to kids have to like get to work

and get something going and get a path in your life. And when you're going to college, it's like you're out of high school. Okay, now you're on your own. You're in college. You got to keep up your GPA. You got to get your degree. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. So, there is value in that. Yeah. But then also, it's too much money and you're probably not going to do anything with that that degree. And if you don't have the degree, people think you're a loser. And it's very it's very strange. It's very

strange what's going on because you're allowing these corporations to prey upon children cuz like you're an 18-year-old child. You don't understand anything. You don't understand anything and then all of a sudden you're in college and you're saddled down with unstoppable debt and you have this [ __ ] circus of people around you that are also trapped and you didn't understand what that meant, what what you were signing up for. No way. It's the same reason like you have a conversation with somebody who's that age and you're like, "Oh, you realize that our brains are different,

right?" Like you talk to like a Yeah. They're not developed yet. They're not fully developed yet. They don't understand. Especially boys, way way more clearly. Yeah. Boys don't get developed until they're like 25. Girls are pretty They can figure out the game earlier. They They're not as saddled down by testosterone. Yeah. They're they're But their frontal lobe develops earlier. Yeah. Ours does really take till about 25. Yeah. Because you're [ __ ] Yeah. But that's also how you trick him into going to war. Yeah. You know, it's part of it. Like, hey, we need to

get, you know, the Gulf of Tonkan. Terrible thing those Vietnamese did. We're going to need to send you overseas. Try that [ __ ] on a 40-year-old guy. You're like, what? No [ __ ] What happened? Let me Google. Hey, I Googled Gulf of Tonkan. Turns out, yeah, you you guys [ __ ] faked it. What What else are you faking to get us to go to war? Oh my god. You guys fake things to start war so you can make money? That's cra How are you not in jail? How's no one in jail for

faking things to start wars? Zero accountability. It's wild. So then you're like, well, [ __ ] it. They got me with the student loan. They got me with this. They got me with that. And you just get accustomed to life [ __ ] you. Yeah. You just like, oh, the society just [ __ ] you over. They just take from you, take from you, and saddle you with debt. Tell you this theory, what you're talking about applies to um I think extends to our appearances. And what I mean is today a lot of times people

talk about how people wear like [ __ ] flipflops and pajamas. You talking about bird again? Yeah. Well, he's not here to defend himself. I think this is true. But like you get on a plane and you see people in pajamas, right? Right. And they in the 50 years ago they'd be like in a suit. And I think part of the reason why people their appearance is this. I think some of it is tied to a lack of hope. Meaning that so many years ago, you would embark on your path in life, thinking that there's

hope. I can have the American dream. I can own the house. I, you know, I can get the things I want to get. And so many people today are like, there is no hope. So, [ __ ] it. I'll I'll just I'll go out in my [ __ ] sleepwear because I don't have I think there's a there's a connection to that. Well, there's a lot to that too that if the government wants if they want control and power, which is ultimately what every government wants. This is not a conspiracy theory. Like every government wants

control and power. What's the best way to acquire control and power? Have the people give up. Have them give up. Yeah. Yeah. They just [ __ ] I give up. I give up. [ __ ] it. I'm wearing flip flops. [ __ ] it. I don't care cuz that means I'll do what you say. I'll do what you say when you That's what's really scary to me about AI automation and then ultimately universal basic income. You're going to get a lot of giving up and then the government's going to clamp down on you even more.

Yeah. And then it's going to be halves and have nots at a scale that we've never seen before. when when you have companies that are in charge of these automated taxi services and that's the only way people get around and the government gives you a certain amount of credits so you don't have to ever worried about traveling you have credits as long as you're a good boy Tom. Yeah. As long as you follow the rules, as long as you don't say anything crazy about Israel, as long as you don't do anything nutty, uh, you know,

about vaccines, as long as you don't step out of line when it comes to the election, don't say anything crazy about this or about that or I mean, take your vaccines. And if that's a real possibility that they're just going to extract extract money out of us or attempt to attempt to control like this is the grand this is the grand battle of control. Mhm. The more they have power over narratives like it's also like there's things that are going on right now like we were just talking about some friends this weekend we're talking about

um these bot farms like there's evidence of bot farms that people have used to like go and attack people with with certain things like like like a bunch of different countries use bot farms. I'm sure a bunch of different corporations use bot farms, too. But there's no one's getting in trouble for it. Like, if you can pretend that you're mass groups of people that are uh getting upset about something, you could just pretend and there's no you could pretend. You could just like you can hire people to go protest and fly them in on jets

like that's happening right now. M there was this guy in Maine and he made this video um where he was uh hired to drive these people to the airport and he's trying to figure out like where are these where are all these people going? I'm driving this bus load two bus loads full of people at the airport and um they were saying well we're going to a protest and like what protest then he goes and Googles like where they where they're flying to he's like oh this is a paid protest they're paying people to show

up and pretend that it's a protest. So it's like there's puppet masters that are manipulating world event and that's legal. It's you're allowed to pay people to go protest. Yeah. Which seems like that should be illegal. Like you shouldn't be able to pretend that you have an organic up Well, yeah. Yeah. Up uprising against some it's giving people this illusion. Yes. Which is the entire Kla Harris campaign. Yeah. I mean that's what it was. It was the whole thing was astroturf. Did you see that LA? like it was before he left the former FBI director

talking about how China just doesn't play ball with any international rules. Oh, I'm sure. And he's like how they don't respect um IP at all. So, he's like they'll just come in and they'll get a you know a spy to give them let's say the IP of some whatever industry wind energy. They'll just take it and be like we have it now. Yep. Start this company and then like this company goes bankrupt because they were and they just [ __ ] you. [ __ ] you. Yeah. They don't [ __ ] Whole Apple stores. Yeah.

That are fake Apple stores. It's so insane. Everything's fake. Fake laptops, fake phones. I saw a guy too cuz like the the evolution cuz I What happens if you try to get online with one of those? I'd have no idea. Can you get an Apple ID? Like does it work? I it can't. I'm imagining that it can't. But like, you know, I always think about the fact with AI how we're in we're in like version one, right? And we're all blown away by it already, right? Right. And it was a there was a watch guy

online who was like, I have two like Daytonas. Oh, yeah. And he was like, dude, he goes, "This is the best one I've ever seen." Fakes. Yeah. The fake. He had to He had to take it apart and to look at parts that were inside. Yeah. like a spin wheel. He goes, "Oh, this is missing the logo." So, which begs the question like what is it? Like what are you buying? Do you want it from this company only or do you want a Rolex Daytona? Like what do you want? Well, I mean I think if

in in the case of that, you know that the the movements the the actual inner workings of the real one are far superior. Are they though? I think so. Yeah. Why? Yeah. Well, I assume that. What if the other one has a 72-hour battery or power supply, too? What if What if you 3D print every single aspect of the watch? I would be the same thing. Pretty close, I guess. Right. But it can be the same thing. Like, we're not talking like like my watch like this is a Panerai. Yeah. This could be fake. I

mean, I bought it from my friend, so I'm sure it's real. Yeah. But like it's not a fake Ferrari, right? You know what I'm saying? Like if you got a fake Ferrari, like, "Oh my god, these tires are have no traction. This suspension sucks." I hate the idea of fake watch though, right? But why? Because you used to be poor. Maybe it's cuz I used to be poor. I also just don't respect the the copying of it, right? It's [ __ ] Yeah. Well, you you know, I wouldn't buy one because you're contributing to some.

But it's kind of funny. It's It is kind of funny. You can get one for $40 and it's like a $7,000 watch. Crazy. It's insane. And it's insane that it's tricking It's tricking these watch experts, right? Yeah. But I don't really understand the uh Yeah. Look at these. So, one of those is fake. Yeah. The the one on the right is fake. Yeah. I'd buy that. Looks perfect. I'll take it. He's pointing out like Well, can you see the difference? Like, who imagine? Who knows this on the spot? Well, you know this on the spot,

right? Yeah. Also, my vision sucks. Mine does, too. So, I'd have to like take it out and do this like I don't know. Like this one I can't even Yeah, I I guess I can read the time or read the date rather. The little the tiny ass windows. That's a that's a struggle. Like if it's dark in the room, I'm not reading that. My vision absolutely sucks. That's incredible though. The replicas are crazy. They're so good. They're so But again, like try making a replica 911 Turbo S. Good luck, [ __ ] face. Good luck.

Yeah, I know. Good luck, [ __ ] face. But you can make one of those. But wait, how does because this I Okay, I understand at least what you're doing in the watch thing, right? Then the person buys the far less expensive one and they get the feeling I guess that that people go, "Oh, you have the real one." Right. Right. Right. But if you're getting an Apple product, a fake Apple product, you don't know you're getting a fake Apple product. The whole thing's a scam. The whole store is fake and everyone goes in on

it. It's an Apple store. Do you think people that are hired think [ __ ] logo? Apple fake factory rated in China. This is uh 10 years ago though. It did it goes on to say that it tricked the employees that thought they were working at a real Apple store. That's the craziest part. Yeah. It's like it's layers of severance. It just goes deeper and deeper and deeper. Yeah. That's really crazy. You ever um follow YouTube channel Stance Elements? Uhuh. It's um it's it's a guy that just works on cars. Dope [ __ ] And

one of the things he's doing, he's building his own Ferrari F40. That's cool. So, instead of buying one for like $3 million, which is Okay, I'm going to tell you something. It's going to piss off these Ferrari people. Yeah. Uh, it ain't worth it. Okay. It's not worth $3 million. It's not that good. It's not If it was new today, you'd be like, "This should be taken off the market, right?" Like, this thing has zero [ __ ] traction control. But because it's a classic, it's worth like a ton of money. So, what he's doing

is making it better. Works. Stance works. Did I say stance elements? Yeah, that's the Oh, that's the the B boys. That's the uh Break Dancers, which by the way, Stance Elements, how how did I [ __ ] that up? Stance Elements, by the way, is also amazing. We could talk about that. But this guy, uh, Stance Works, he, this is his own, that's not a Ferrari. Like, all the parts online. So, he bought all the body panels online. And then he made his own frame. And then he bought a Ferrari engine from like a different

model of Ferrari, and he's putting that in it. But this is like a multi-month journey that this dude has been on that I've been watching all the videos. Whenever he has a new video, I watch it. He does a lot of dope [ __ ] But this is a guy that like really loves cars and he's super smart and when he's talking about cars, it's fascinating cuz like he's also a fan of the original M5, which I've thought about getting one of those. Not very fast, but apparently like super engaging driving experience. the original M5,

which I think was like I want to say it was like 280 horsepower in what year? 80 something. 80 something. Yeah. Which by the way back I think it's 88 maybe. Back then that was a lot. I have a 89 M3 that I bought. Oo. E30 M3. Oh yeah. And I have a S54 engine going into it. Oh Jesus. So, that should be How much is horsepower than that? I don't know. That's more than it came with. I have an E46 M3. Those are fun. I love it. Yeah, it's so balanced. Yeah, it's like such

an engaging driving experience. That's what I'm into. I'm into that. I'm not into chasing the the lower uh 0 to 60 time. Yeah, that's nonsense. Like, if you ever use that on a public road, you're an [ __ ] But engaging cars, you could drive the speed limit and enjoy the [ __ ] out of them. just fun just going around a corner and just accelerating to 60. They're fun. It's fun. You feel more like like an old air cooled Porsche. Like you feel it. You feeling Did you get that one that you were you

had one being built? Yeah. It's not done yet. It's real close. Real close. Exciting. That's the RSR project. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's for very excited about that. It's like 350 horsepower, 2,000 lbs. Meanwhile, I have some crazy [ __ ] car coming to me, too. What do you got? This uh Asetto Fiorino 296 GTB Ferrari. 700 800 horsepower. Christ. Yeah. I uh watched I've seen your Blazer, but I watched a video on it. Yeah. Those guys, the Velocity Motorsports guys. Oh my god, dude. They're doing cool [ __ ] Velocity did um they really went

out with that one. They That one's great. Um they do Scouts and Broncos, but they also just started doing Mustangs. Oh, and the Must I took the one of the Mustangs out. Oh, very fun. I think 67 Mustangs. So, you get that. Is that the one with the flared fender? Did you Did you send me that? Did you send it to me? The green one? No, that was a different That's a different one. Yeah. Yeah. I was just Every time I see something cool, like, check this [ __ ] out. Uh, I sent you the

other one. What did I send you? I sent you that um that that Julia that Italian one that the guy came to my place. Oh yeah, that was fun as [ __ ] The Alfa Romeo. Yeah, I've seen that online getting reviewed. It's a restood Alfa Romeo. I don't trust my people. No, no, I have uh one of my people's vehicles, but generally I don't trust my people. Oh my god. I just think they're they're eating pasta and staring at ass and they're not going to do a good job. I wanted my car is made

by either Germans who do meth or totem. That's what I was. Oh wow. Yeah, dude. I I told one of these. This guy came Oh, baby. Look at that. It's [ __ ] rad. Totem Automoili. I did like it a lot. Um I didn't order one. I didn't order it. You didn't? He's Well, he's making a prototype for a whole new model, so I was like, I don't know. Why? Well, that's so sick. That looks like a James Bond car. Look at that thing. Goddamn. And it's it's 100% custom, you know? I bet that thing

flies. It dude, I was driving down Fairfax in LA in the rain and he turned off the traction control. No. Yeah. Turned off. He turned it off. Why did he turn it off? He's like, "Let it let it run. Explode. Emotion." Oh, no. And guess what? Emotion almost ended up wrapped around a [ __ ] light pole. Did you spin, dude? I was like and I I corrected it but I was like panic and I was like [ __ ] driving. That's the fear of losing it in a Porsche. That rear engine whip. You know

that uh that under steer that happens or over steer. What is it called? Supply throttle something. Throttle over steer when you lift throttle lift throttle over steer. Yeah. Yeah. And then and then the the back end goes on you. Oh yeah. It's a weird design like having the engine out back like that. thing also happens in everybody's mind who hasn't who is not it's it's literally something you have to be trained which is that when something when you're in a car and you're at a certain rate of speed and you're approaching a turn or something

you feel anything going on you take your foot off the throttle and what you don't realize is that that is going to it's going to make things worse y because the momentum and the weight are going to be carried through and Actually, the only thing that'll keep you from usually losing it is to stay on throttle, not necessarily give it a ton, right? But you need that momentum to carry you through it, right? And so, it's just something that you you There's countless videos of somebody Oh, yeah. in their new [ __ ] car just

going and they just go into a tree. I just watched one on a new GT3 RS. I've seen that one. Horrible. He's like 18. Horrible. And he did exactly that. He hits the turn off throttle, tries to correct. Bye. Byebye. [ __ ] Painful to watch. But that is a bad element of that design, the rear weight. Yeah. Yeah. But and also it's like, is that really the best way to do it? Because, you know, everybody always said that the Cayman is the better car if they just gave it the same sort of love that

they give the Porsche. I [ __ ] love the Cayman. I love it. It's like my my heart is with that car. If you go like what's the one you're in love with the most, still that car. But isn't it interesting that like that card is not as prestigious? It's not as prestigious. Yeah. Like why is that? That seems stupid. It's a whole thing too. And if you have like you'll see people like ah you got the Cayman. You should have gotten the 911. I'm like you should drive this [ __ ] thing. Yeah. But

people that say that are all [ __ ] They kind of are. Yeah. Anybody that says that is an idiot. You don't know anything about cars. Mid engine because you have a DIN, right? Is that No, it's not Din. What's the company? Dinan did my BMW. What is the What's your company? um for that one. Yeah, Rick Dean did the uh the upgrade on that. Yeah. Yeah. So, what that is is what it should be, right? From Porsche. Yeah. They should take that big juicy GT3 RS engine or even crazier, take that GT2 RS, throw

it in that mix. Throw it in. It just upsets 911 owners. That's it. It just [ __ ] up their bunch of little fairies. If that upsets you, Yeah. then you need to go find something else. You need to go do mushrooms on the mountain top somewhere. By the way, did you like that? You feel it at all? I don't know what you're talking about. Did you ever drive the GT4 RS they came out with like a year or two ago? No, I didn't. I heard it. I didn't drive it yet. I'm sure it's dope,

but it's also an automatic. It's all automatic. Come on, you [ __ ] Like, what are we doing? Why are you buying a street car? Are you a tra guy weekend? Okay, which is fine. which is fine. Yeah. But but for the average person that like enjoy you like make an enthusiast car that's a goddamn three pedal. Yeah. Make make a manual. Well, thank God they still do. They make some I mean a lot of places just don't I still them and BMW and Ford still make some. They still do it with their Mustangs. I

can't believe that Ferrari doesn't realize that if they did just a limited run Oh my god. It would sell like crazy. It would sell so crazy. Yeah. They gave up. They gave up. Lamborghini gave up. Everybody gave up. Thank god Porsche didn't. No, I know. But they did with some cars, like a lot of their cars, you can't like you can't get the GTS now in a 5-speed or or excuse me, a six-speed or a seven-speed, whatever the [ __ ] they have now. You can't get I don't think you can get the S. You

can't get the turbo. Oh, you can't get the turbo. Yeah, you have to get the T or the um regular Maybe you can get the regular 911. I think you can get a regular 911 Carrera. GT3 you can get still, but you can't get the GT3 RS. Like, come on, guys. Shut up. Just shut up. I think they're the audience should inform them, right? They should know that like their their fan base I know wants all that [ __ ] in manual. It's like what pisses me off about Corvette, too. Like, you guys have the

most dope shape now. Like, the C8 Corvette is so sick. And then you you're putting out these insane ones like the Z06 and the ZR1, but it's still I know people want to Yeah. I don't know. It's got to be like that. All that has to be like cost analysis, right? It's a little bit of that. And what is that? Rogue. So I want I kind of quit those, but one I [ __ ] love these. I thought I was going to have a hard time. I quit them over the weekend. Did nothing. I was

like, this is easy. I think I'm lucky with your I think Yeah, I don't think I get physically addicted to stuff that way except coffee. Yeah, I've done that one where I took the whole day off coffee and I was like why am I [ __ ] yawning? Yeah. Yeah. [ __ ] Coffee gets me to headaches. But I like coffee so much and coffee is everywhere. I'm like I don't think I need to quit that one. No, I didn't get headaches last time I tried to quit coffee. I quit for a couple days and

I was like, "This is just rough." Um, but the nicotine pouches was nothing. That's great. Yeah, it was super easy. I feel like I have some of that where I'm not that physically addicted to. Dude, I have friends that have like anything gets them. Like I I had a guy who came over here to do a podcast and he saw that someone had sent us someratom stuff that I w up throwing out. I was like, I don't want like this [ __ ] anyway. Yeah. And he's like, "Don't take that. I can't get off of

it. Get that crratom away from me. I have a real problem with it. I'm like, really? I know someone 18 years on it. What? Yeah. What? Yeah. 18 years on a shitty opium. Well, cuz they were using it to get off of opiates. Oh god. And they can't they can't go without it. Wow. But the high is so like whatever. Yeah. It's not I I tried it and then people were telling me, "Be careful. Be careful. Oh, Duncan loved it. We had some at the club and Duncan's like, "Hey, man. You got any more of

that? Got any more of that liquid heroin, man?" I was like, "Keep it away from Duncan?" Yeah. He's so funny, dude. He's the best. He's the best. But we like had a whole box of it there that Ron White had left there and it was gone by Tuesday. I got in there on Tuesday. Where did it all go? No, it was all Duncan. It was all We drank all of them. I was drinking two and three a day, man. I go, "You're not even supposed to drink one a day. It's like a half a dose."

Like, which is really weird. Like, why did they make one of them be two doses? Two doses. It's a tiny little shot. That's a good way to get you onto it. Yeah. It's like when you buy a bag of chips and it says like how many calories in it per serving? Six chips. Like, what do you Why is this This little baggie is not even a single serving. You know, I'm going to eat more than that one bag. Of course they know. Piece of [ __ ] Yeah. Garbage tactic to get people so predatory. It's

just lies. You're lying about the amount of calories. That's so funny, dude. But I don't I think I'm very lucky cuz I know people that get addicted to weed and I I I have gone a long time without weed and never had any problem. Yeah, people get physically addicted. Like I didn't really realize that was a thing, but I think it's just different genetics. It totally is. You know, like look at Bert. A normal person who drinks as much as him would be dead. Yeah. You'd have like real liver problems and and he's he doesn't

have any problems. He's in the gym in the morning. It's crazy. It's nuts. So, it's like you just got to deal with the cards you dealt. Like, why don't I have four aces? Well, you don't. So, what are you going to do? Yeah. You going to just sit here and [ __ ] complain about everything or what? You got to figure it out. Yeah. Figure it out, [ __ ] Yeah. Yeah. Figure it out. And you need, you know, everybody needs love. Everybody needs support. But everybody also needs figure it out, [ __ ] Yeah.

There's not enough of that. Exactly. There's really not enough of that. There's not because you really there's it's like there's you don't gain anything by doing the like how come I don't get no this. It's like how come I'm not 66? I don't know. I'm not. Right. You just deal with it. Yeah. You got to just deal with it. I think that's a real problem where people you know if you think about like the the you remember that um documentary The Secret. stupid document. Oh yeah. Like all you have to do is like think about

things and you can make them happen. Not really. That's [ __ ] But it's a part of it. It's a part of making things happen. Like you can't just say, "I'm going to [ __ ] breathe underwater. I'm just going to think about it till I can do it." No, you can't do that. Give it a shot. Yeah. There's physical limitations to the human frame. There's physical limitations for your particular human frame. Yeah. You know, you can't get taller. You can't you you can lose weight, but you you can't you can't really do much other

than that. Yeah. You can kind of get in good shape for what you got, but what you got is what you got. What you got. Yeah. Um but there's a bunch of people that just think about their problems all the time. That's a it's an obsession. And what it does is it carries you through time without having to deal with the problem because you just talk about the problem. That's a big one. I know so many people do that. focus is your problems rather than your solutions. Do you know how many people who live in

Guatemala in a [ __ ] dirt floored shack would love your problems? Yeah. You know, like your problems are not that big a problem if you're living in America and you have your health. You need you have that you need that perspective change from people. Exactly. Yeah. There's a big thing of like if if your problems become your identity, it's like [ __ ] because I know people like that, right? That you're like that. Have you ever seen that video the um the final boss of woke? It's like this one trans man who's like I'm

a disabled trans man. I'm also on food stamps. I also have like a real person. It's and it's Donald Trump is trying to erase me and it's like this is the identity. Like there's this there's this existential battle, but this final boss has everything wrong with him. It is you're not him. You're a girl pretending to be a man. So it's like you've got everything is wrong and it just keeps going on and on. Have you seen this, Jamie? Do you know it is Sounds like somebody should try to get on stage? No. Big fat

stupid face. It's not going to work. the the whole thing is just like it's just it's so crazy that people will just like there's a value and a currency to being a victim and so they'll they'll add stuff that social media has also helped that a lot because there's plenty of people that don't want to deal with their [ __ ] that'll go yes girl you go yeah society's doing this to you did you hear about that lady that got fired from Equinox in Manhattan she was late 47 times in 10 months and uh she

sued because of rac she said she got fired for racism and she won. She won. It's a jury and she won $11 million. No. Yes, she did. No. And she was like 47. Not only that, like you were working at Equinox. Like you could work for all of time and you'll never make $1 million. Like you're not going to make $1 million working Equinox. But yet you won. And she only worked there for 10 months. She was late 47 times in 10 months. And that's why they were firing her. Like they're like, "You're just You

are always late." Yeah. And then she's like, "That's so racist. That's crazy." She won. And she took him to court and won. They're definitely going to appeal that [ __ ] Of course they're going to appeal. But But the thing is, when you have a jury Yeah. you have a jury of people so [ __ ] stupid they don't get out of jury duty. Yeah. Exactly. And they might be like, "Yeah, [ __ ] Equinox, man. [ __ ] [ __ ] the man, man." Because that guy's just too lazy to go to the gym.

He's like, "Fuck it." Of course. Not just that, it's a corporation. You don't think of it as an individual. This is a company that's going to [ __ ] you over. That's why people don't feel bad stealing from work. Yeah. You know, you don't feel like you're steal like if someone was working in your house and they were stealing from you, like they stole your forks, like where's my [ __ ] fork? Yeah. Like this is [ __ ] I like it. And then you find out a guy who worked for you stole your fork,

like you're [ __ ] fired. But if an office, if like someone like takes a fork home, like if you have a kitchen in your office, we use a bunch of forks for staff. Yeah. And someone takes that fork, it's no big deal. It's the office's fork. We just need to order more forks, man. These [ __ ] forks keep disappearing. And you go over Tom's house one day and like Tom's got four of the office forks. Like, did you steal the office forks? I forgot. I just keep forgetting to bring them back. They don't

belong to somebody. Right. Exactly. It's not a human. It's a corporation. Which is also why corporations can act like [ __ ] psychopaths because they're also not a human. So they could just do whatever the [ __ ] they have to do. Which is why our food supply is so bad because they're just trying to maximize profit. They literally have a duty to maximize profit. My mom definitely thinks of corporations as they can deal with it. Of course. And I remember my dad used to tell this story that when when they first got married, they

were at a holiday in and they were leaving and then he was like, "What is that in the suitcase?" And it was their towels. And she was like, "Is it towels?" And he's like, "You can't take that." She was like, "Why?" Cuz it belongs to the Holiday Inn. It's theirs. And she was like, "They have them like a hundred of them." And he's like, "Yeah, it's not ours, though. We can't." And she was like, "It's fine." And like everywhere I've gone with her, she's like, Oh, you know, she'd be like, "Can I take this?" I'm

like, "No, that's so funny." We've been We've been places where I've been like, "Hey, sorry. My mom wondering if we could take this glass." She makes you ask. Yeah. And then I saw a video you were showing your mom these clips. Oh, yeah. The clips from your new Netflix show. [ __ ] amazing. It was amazing. I knew it. It was I knew it was going to be a killer. Like I was like, "She's going to hate it." And they were like, "Okay." So, we set up a private screening for her. It's also like, why

am I watching this? I don't know if you know, but you're my mom. Yeah. This is so funny. She's like, dude, she [ __ ] she hated the show so much. She's like, sure. She told she came over yesterday for Mother's Day. And I was like, she goes, "So, cuz that on the rest of that thing, she made me promise that we're going to cut the first the first story." Yeah. She's like, "You you're definitely not going to use that, right?" So, eventually I was like, "Yeah, we're cutting it." But and so yesterday she was

like, "Did you cut it?" I go, "Of course not. It's [ __ ] It's Netflix's." And she was like, "You pro." So you lied to me. And I'm like, "Mom, I can't be like, "Hey, don't air the first one." She's like, "Well, that means you lied to me, so I'm never coming to a show again, and I'm never going to do anything like related to any of your stuff." And I go, "Promise? I would love if you never came to a show again." Do you know how much of a [ __ ] burden it is

to have to babysit when you're there? I was talking to Shane Gillis about a bit he does where people getting upset people he knows getting upset about a bit. Oh yeah. And he's like, "Yeah, I'll stop doing that." Shut the [ __ ] up. Shut up. Shut the [ __ ] up. She found out, by the way, I was on Chrissy D and Giannis's podcast the day the Pope died or the day after. I was in New York and we're podcasting and I was like, "Oh." Oh, cuz my mom's like hardcore Catholic and I was

like, "Let's call her and just check on her." And I go, "We'll just try to see if maybe the Jews did it." So, I call her. I'm like, "Do you hear about the Pope?" And she's like, "I am [Music] deto." And she's like, "What?" I'm like, "We had to cover our mouths. We had to cover our mouths and mute the phone. She's like, she goes, "This is the craziest call I've ever received. The Pope died. Do you think the Jews did it?" I'm like, I had to hang up the phone. And then like a week

later, she goes, "I was on YouTube and I find that you called me on a show to talk about this." She's found herself. She found the clip. Yeah. She found the endless well of us [ __ ] with her on YouTube. Oh my god, that's so funny. Speaking of the Jews, have you seen [ __ ] Kanye's new song? Bro, bro, what is Here's the thing. What? First of all, kind of catchy. Well, that's the problem with it. That's the problem is like the guy from production like he's never lost a step. He can make

a beat. He can like he's so talented. He's a talented producer, man. I do think it's like when first of all I think people are kind of done asking him questions because most of the [ __ ] he puts out is like self-release kind of commentary or thoughts cuz he's saying just [ __ ] cra you know it's the craziest thing I've ever seen. But there is a thing where that song is like what what are you doing dude? Like for what are you doing for real? It's the ultimate pushing back. Yeah, I guess. But

there is like like I I don't I think I have a pretty, you know, let things go kind of vibe to me. Obviously, your [ __ ] show is ridiculous. It's ridiculous show. And I've always been like, yeah, say whatever you're going to say. But I do think like making a catchy song about that. I'm like, what are you doing, man? Like you're just getting at a minimum, you're just going to get more people that think it's cool to say h like that's at the minimum. Well, I think that's part of the program program. I

think it's part of what he's trying to do. But I mean, is that cool to do? I guess if you're like, well, it's fun to troll the masses and get them to do that. Okay. But what I'm saying is that like at a minimum, you're going to get less educated people to go like this is a fun thing to say. And you're like, I mean, is that good? You really want people just mo walking around be like, you know, it's tight, man. How Hitler like that's [ __ ] insane. It's crazy. It is crazy, but

it's also kind of a sign of the times, I guess. Yeah. These are thea chaotic world we're living in. Yeah. And it's like, okay, this is this kind of highlights the the benefits. I mean, I want to say this like carefully because I don't want to think any I don't I want to say real clearly. I don't support people saying that. I don't think it's a good thing to say. I don't say it. I certainly don't think I don't think any racism is good. I don't think anti-semitism is good. I don't think anti- Christianity is

good. I don't think Asian hate is good. I don't think anything is good. But there's a benefit to just letting people talk. Like, let people say whatever the [ __ ] they want to say, even if it sucks. This is the benefit of Twitter. But this is also the bad part. It's like that [ __ ] song has so many millions of hits. Yeah. On Twitter. It's been banned from every platform. But is it good to ban things from platforms or is it better to let it be out there and let people talk about it?

Because if you ban it then people want to hear it more. That's true. And then it becomes more popular. And then it kind of supports what he says, which is that there's this concerted effort if you talk about Jewish people that they're going to remove you from everything. Remove you from banking, ruin, which is what he's saying. They run everything. So if they didn't, like if it was just you were talking [ __ ] about Puerto Ricans, look what happened to Tony. Nothing. Yeah. He's doing great. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like if there's

certain people that you're allowed to pick on and and make jokes about or or mock or or say something and you you can get away with it. Yeah. Well, I think he's made his point. I think we all get it now. It's never going to end. But how does it end? This is the question. When I was watching that song, first of all, I was by myself when I saw first saw the song. I was like, what is this? Yeah. Like, no way. Yeah. Yeah. No. Like, no way. No way. And I'm I'm watching on

my phone like, yo. And then my first thought was, how does this end? Because this ends. This is gonna end. There's going to come a time where they're going to realize like this is a problem. Yeah. So, how does it end? Does it end in assassination? Does it end in There's definitely people that want to financial ruin. Yeah. I don't know what his financial situation is. I know that like there's been all these over the last five years there's been times where like his you know net worth has been reported at like such a crazy

amount and then I remember like funds were frozen and he was like I don't have anything and then it was like all back. I don't know what his financial situation is. Well, they can't steal your money but they can debank you. Yeah. Where no one will bank with you, right? So it's like what how does that work? Like where do you get your ATM card? Yeah. Is it from the bank of [ __ ] Portugal? Like what do you have to do? Like how does that work? You know what I thought about when I was

when I was watching that video? I was like how do like how do you get I don't know however many actors That's easy. That's the easy part. I think it's crazy. I think a lot of people would be like what? Oh, that's the easy part. You put on a casting call in LA. Everyone's soulless. They have no [ __ ] soul. Nuts. They just want to get famous. You going to do a project with Kanye? Okay, let's go. Let's do it. Also, I'm just acting. Just like that guy in in Glorious Bastards wasn't really a

Nazi, right? I'm not really announcing. Listen, man. I got to do what I got to do. I got kids to feed. Yeah, it's nuts. It's pretty nuts. He's Look, he's super talented, man. I One of my thoughts after hearing that song was like, man, I wish he would release this song with like a different, you know what I mean? With a different hook like Yeah, it's not going to happen. No, I know he's not going to, but that's what I one of my thoughts was. I was like, man, I wish he he would It's so

crazy. It's so crazy because his last album before that was a banger. It's like he came out of the gate showing people that like he still got it. Like yeah, you might have pulled me off all these platforms. You might have debanked me. You might have taken away my Yeezy deal with Adidas, but damn, I still got it. And he's And that one was released everywhere, right? That's on all platform. Yeah. Oh man, that's in the Spotify playlist that we play in the green room all the time. You know, there's some [ __ ] killer

songs in that, man. Yeah, he's he's classics. Classics. He's got so many bangers. Yeah, but you know this one he's just like letting people I I guess in his eye. I mean, I don't know. I haven't talked to him about it, but I guess he's like, I'll do whatever the [ __ ] I want. I'm going to do whatever the [ __ ] I want. Yeah, clearly. So, I'm going to do the one thing that you're never ever ever supposed to do. I'm going to make a catchy song. It's Hy Hitler. Yeah. Yeah. That's it's

just like whoa. That is the ultimate like I'll do whatever the [ __ ] I want. Yeah. And you had to say like in the casting there's like a description of all the stuff if you want to be a part of this production like you have to be comfortable with swastikers. Is that was in the Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's got a diamond encrusted swastik. That's also insane, dude. By the way, you know a juice sold him that probably or at least applied the diamonds. Where the diamonds come from? That's insane. The Jewish people have been

controlling diamonds for a long time. It's insane. They're very smart about the diamonds because the diamonds aren't even really that valuable anymore. You know what? You know what's [ __ ] crazy in in jewelry? Because see, this is one of the things that like I don't trust about there's certain businesses where you're like, I don't know what I'm looking at. Right. Right. So like a car for instance, you have the reference to go like how much should this cost? Right. Right. And so it gives you some personal right. You see a Lamborghini, you know that's

like a $300,000 car and you can like check with people. Yeah. But like a piece of jewelry, right? This guy who I had I bought a watch from was like this jewelry is like, you know, this ring or whatever. It's like whatever $50,000 or something. I was like, "Oh, wow." He's like, "Do you want it?" I was like, "I don't know." And and then like a month or two later, he he sent me the same thing. He's like, "Trying to move this now. Um, do you want it for like 20?" What? And I was like

I didn't I was like it's 20. He's like yeah I'm just trying to move it now. What does that mean? What do you owe on it? What's it really cost? That's what I'm saying. Yeah. And so you kind of go like wait a minute. So I was going to pay $30,000 more for it. That would just go to you. That's so gross. Right. It is gross. I would never trust that guy again. It just really turned me off, man. I was really um fake diamonds that are real diamonds. Yeah. Yeah, girls don't want them, right?

I was reading this whole thing about the demand and supply for lab created diamonds that are absolutely diamonds. They're not fake diamonds. It's a real diamond, but it's not a diamond that's pulled out of the ground by slaves. It's just lab generated. Yeah. It's not like a blood diamond. So like, well, and girls are like, I don't want that [ __ ] I don't want it. It's not real. I'll know it's not real. I want someone to suffer first. Well, it's not that. What it is is the same thing as not wanting a fake Rolex.

Even though it's like physically the exact same thing as a Rolex, it's a but that's at least a brand. Like if you're a person who loves engineering and craftsmanship and like you like I don't want you know someone to rip off someone's work. Yeah. Like that's art like like a like your watch that's a piece of art. It's a piece of art. So that makes sense. You wouldn't want a fake piece of art. But a diamond is just it's just elements compressed over time. And they figured out how to do that where they make perfect

diamonds. Fraction of the cost, I'm assuming, right? But the demand is super low. Yeah. Wow. 99% less. 99. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. In some cases, especially the biggin. Yeah. I was going to say you get like a three karat diamond. Right. Right. Right. Right. Little ladies don't want them. Yeah. Am I a real one? It's so crazy. That's one of the things I feel cheap that I feel so Do you think I'm cheap? They don't want that [ __ ] dude. She finds out that what you got her was like the the shittier version. Lab

created. But it's not even shittier. The thing is like lab created diamonds are actual diamonds. It's literal alchemy. Remember like in like the old days like they were trying to figure out a way to use like all these chemicals to make gold. That was what alchemists are for. Like kings would spend insane amounts of money on these alchemists to try to get these alchemists to figure out how to manufacture. I I think I can make gold for you sire. I need a laboratory. And these dudes are sniffing [ __ ] mercury all day and dying

young. It's the craziest thing to spend on. But imagine if the lady's like, "No, you made that gold in a lab. I don't want it. I don't want it. I want real gold that's from Africa that came out of the ground." Yeah. We just want the real thing. I want the real stuff that they picked out of the river. Yeah. I want the real stuff they got from Alaska. I want the real stuff. You don't want But it's just gold, baby. It's just an element. It's Who cares where it's from? No. No. I want stuff

that's forged inside of a sun. How many women out there do you think to rock something that they're so proud of that if they go to get it assessed? It has to happen all the time. It happened in my family. It did. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't want to say who, but someone relative, not like close, but broke up with the guy and found out that it was a cubic zirconium. That's hilarious. Lol. That's very funny. But perfect for that guy. I was like, that guy's such a piece of [ __ ] I knew it.

I could have told you it was a fake diamond. That's so funny. I laugh so hard. Yeah. So, she took it to the jeweler. All right. Well, she's like, "I got to break up with this guy. I don't have any money." She's She's living with this shyer, this [ __ ] guy who's like a just dirt bag. And, you know, but had some money, but not real money. Just like a just [ __ ] artist. Yeah. She's like, "Oh, he's a [ __ ] artist. I got to leave him." Oh, [ __ ] [ __

] So, she thought like, "I'm going to, you know, I have 10 grand. Yeah. I'll sell this." Right. Like, I'll give you 100 bucks. Worth nothing. They didn't want any of it. They didn't It's not worth anything. That's a fake fake diamond's worth zero money. Zero. Looks exactly like like if you're in a party. Yeah. If you go to a party, if you're a woman, you have this beautiful big ass [ __ ] rock and you walk in and everybody's like, "Look at her ring. Oh my god, it's sparkling." Nobody knows. Nobody has any idea

that it's fake. No one knows. You I mean, literally, it's again, it's not a fake Ferrari. Well, that was the thing. Uh Chad Oeno, the football player, cuz like a lot of the athletes, they rock diamond earrings and stuff. He was like he was like, "Yeah, I wear fakes." He's like, especially cuz like if I'm whether it was on the field or going out, he was like, "I have a real one at home." You know, I was like, "I go out, I wear the fake one." Well, he saved a lot of money. A lot of

money. He was also like always very on top of like not overspending. Very smart dude. Very smart dude for everything except fighting. He has this very bizarre idea. Like him and Shannon Sharp argue all the time. This bizarre idea that he could like fight MMA guys and beat them. That's crazy. That's crazy. Well, it's the reason why he's such a great athlete. Yeah. Confidence. Crazy confidence. this unstoppable belief in yourself, which listen, he's such a great athlete that if he did compete in MMA, he probably would be a world champion because he's got that like

if Michael Jordan decided he was gonna if MMA existed when Michael Jordan was alive, he'd probably be the light heavyweight champion of the world. He probably figure out a way to [ __ ] everybody else up. And also like this drive, this championship mindset. These just rare humans that choose to focus on football or soccer or basketball or whatever it is, you know, but the thing they get obsessed with. But if they put the same amount of energy from the same amount at an early enough age, like there's certain like barriers that cannot be overcome.

And one of them is like physical maturity. Like once you're like 36 years old, if you start boxing at 36 years old, I don't care what you're not going to be a world champion. It's too hard. It's too hard to like Yeah. It's what you saw with like Francis Ingano when you fought Anthony Joshua. Yeah. That's the difference. You know, you can't just jump on in and fight like an Olympic gold medalist. It's like been doing it his whole life. He's going to do things to you. You're not going to know what he's doing and

he's going to crack you. It's just But the reason why he thinks that, like oo thinks that is because he was [ __ ] monster athlete. It's like he knows how hard he works. He knows how gifted he is. Yeah. But he just thinks, but if you know, you put him in there with a guy like a Dreus duplic. No, he's thinking, yeah, because he was a [ __ ] precision route runner like when someone's mounting you, drilling elbows in your eye socket. I know it doesn't matter. Like, it doesn't matter. You don't know how

to block them. You don't know how to stop the rear naked choke. You don't you don't know how to stop the trip. You don't know which way to roll on a heel hook. Like, they're like, "I'll figure that [ __ ] out." No, you won't. You're going to get your knees ripped apart. You're going to get knocked unconscious. It's like reality. But it's I love the fact that people think that way. I There's a lot that think like that outspoken. It's my mentality, bro. My mentality lose. Yeah, I understand it. I I have that stupid

part of my brain, too, but I'm also smart enough to go, "Hey, [ __ ] face." Like, I have two people in my head. Yeah. I have like this I have the general who tells me what to do and then I have like the soldier that's like wait a minute this is gonna get me killed this is [ __ ] I'm not running with a hand grenade into all these bullets flying my way. No and you know enough seen enough fighting to know what your limits are. Especially with martial arts is the big one. It's

like you don't know man. There's little tiny dudes that can choke you to death and you you have no idea. Yeah, you in your mind you're like they getting new [ __ ] to me. This [ __ ] I could bench 300 lb. And next thing you know, arm drag. He's got your back. You can't get away with the body triangle on you. You don't let it tap out. But you have to. You're dead. You're dead. It's over. That's why it's good. It's good to do like to even try all those things. Like I've done

a little bit of, you know, boxing, striking. I've done a little bit of jiu-jitsu. It's great to have the awareness. You're like, "Oh, wow. It's a nice wakeup call. Yeah. Yeah. When I first started doing jiu-jitsu, I was already like a very accomplished striker. I was really good at striking. So, I was like, I know how to fight. And then I went to jiu-jitsu class. I got my ass kicked every day. Yeah. I was like, this is crazy. I was so wrong. I have this completely distorted idea of my abilities. Yeah. Yeah. It it it

really humbles you, right? It's a lot of people walking around out there, especially men, just think they know how to fight. It's like a terrible thing to find out on YouTube. Like to see people find out that you don't really know how to fight. You just think, you know, you're going to bluff your way. I think that's the m there's the male thing. Men think they know how to fight, that they're funny, that they [ __ ] good, and that they can drive, right? Those are like the four things they're like, I can do all

this [ __ ] Yeah. Delusions. There's like manly things you don't want someone to be better than you at. Yeah. And you get delusional things. Those four are the ones that like come up the most. I think pool's another one. Shoot pool. Yeah. A lot of guys pretend they're good at pool. Yeah. I've had a bunch of dudes say they play good pool. I'm like, really? Let's find out. Let's find out. Are do any ever surprise you that they are pretty good? Never. Never. Not one. Not one. Nope. Wow. That's actually I thought you would

find at least a couple. No. So they're always like I'm No. Usually people that are really good at pool, they'll tell you like, "Oh yeah, I used to play a I played a lot of tournaments. I did this, I did that. Like, where did you where'd you play? And they're like, "Oh, I played at Chelsea Billiards in New York City." Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Did you do a lot of tournaments? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I did a lot of gambling. It was [ __ ] me up in high school. Like, okay. This guy's I get it.

You You know what you're talking about. But the guy's like, "Yeah, man. I'm [ __ ] good at pool." I'm like, "Are you? Where do you play?" It's like, "Oh, bars mostly." Like, right. So, it's one of two things happening. Either they're trying to sucker you into a game and they are really good at pool. Mhm. Or they're delusional. And every time I've ever experienced it, it's delusional. Wow. There's a lot of people, dude. Like famous people. Really? Oh, yeah. Yeah. A bunch. Yeah. They're like, I'm pretty good. Bring them over. I don't want to

say names, but bring them over onto the table and they're like, "What the fuck?" Oh, you have to tell me these names after. Tell you afterwards. Yeah. Yeah. It's fun. That's fun to see somebody. Yeah. It's fun. Like, but you know, it's one of those things that people like like a lot of men want to think they're good at poker. Like, oh, I could read people. Like, sure. Oh, yeah. That's another one. Dudes think they're good at playing cards. Poker's a great one. Ari Shafir, when we were uh at the store, Ari for years made

a living playing poker. He made a living doing that. 100%. He would go and play in the bicycle club and all those card. Ari was very good at poker, but he would tell you. But like all these people think they can play. They don't know what the [ __ ] they're doing because they play stupid. Like he's just intelligent and calculated and he he knows like you know who's really good? Who? Uh Philip Lee and his wife. Oh really? They play in tournaments. Oh wow. Margarita and Philip they play in tournaments. So is Bruce Buffer.

Bruce Buffer played in the World Series of Poker. I never I never got into poker and I remember when I was working in post-prouction like in the early 2000s the it was starting to get more and more like now it's I think immensely popular but there was like a there was like an uptick when they started to like televise it. You know what it was? You know what made it uptick? No. You could see the cards when at home you know who's got what. You know who's got what, right? So you're watching it play out.

That's a huge element that's on home because uh Anthony Gerardano, my friend from the UFC who uh he does uh all the UFC direction, he's done my comedy specials, too. He explained it to me. He's like the moment you could see those cards, it changed the game because it now it made it exciting for people to watch cuz you're watching people play co poker. You don't know what anybody's hand is until the end. This is stupid. But if this is like you got a camera so like as they fan open their cards, there's a camera

under the table and shows you what they got. shows you what everybody's got. Like, oo, that's more exciting. Oh, that makes a lot of sense. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's It's way more fun, dude. I don't I don't even know how to play poker. And I would accept invites to poker games. And what happens is you start playing with like how you think to play. And people start when they don't know you, they're like, "This guy, he's either [ __ ] really ballsy and good or he's a retard." Like, and that's what would happened to me

is like couple games in people were like, "Okay, yeah, this guy." And then pretty soon they're like, "Do you play poker?" And I was like, "I I'm not really sure what we're doing here." Like they're like, "Get the [ __ ] out of here, man." Well, they're also want to rob you. Yeah, that's a big thing, too, because you're a big fish. Well, I wasn't I wasn't at all then at the dump. No, no, no. I I was just like going like with people from work, you know? I was just like doing it socially. That's

got to be a lot a thing where a lot of people like that are really wealthy that get into gambling. Oh, be a target. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm sure. Well, that's a big thing with uh pool players too is uh occasionally uh poker players cuz poker players a lot of them they gamble on a bunch of different stuff. You know, a lot of them are just gambling addicts. Totally. And so there was a always a bunch of poker players that would play pool and they were kind of okay at pool, but they would get

insane spots. Like say if uh like I knew this guy that was playing one pocket for like $100,000 a set and um one pocket is a weird game where a pool table has six pockets. Yeah. And so like if we were playing one pocket um you would have this pocket on the right, I'd have this pocket on the left and there's 15 balls. And so all I have to do is make uh eight balls in my hole and I win the game. Okay. Normally, but if you don't know how to play and I'm trying to

sucker you into playing me, I go, "Okay, listen. I will spot you on 15 ball game. I'll spot you 13 balls." 13. 13 balls. You just have to get two. We're going to play for big money. We're going to play for big money. We're going to play for race to five for $100,000. Wow. So that means whoever and a game of one pocket takes a long time. It's not like a game of nine ball. A game of nine ball you could be you could be done two minutes. You just run the rack, you know, like

a good player anywhere you can go. Yeah. Combo one to one. Exactly. one pocket and and you can't leave a shot because if you're playing a good player, so like if if you were playing one if like okay me, let's say me because I'm like a what I would call I'm like what's called a B player like I can't beat pros but compared to regular people. Oh my god, you are you how do you play so good? Regular people don't know how to play. That's that's why it is right. But if I played like a

pro, like if I played like uh my friend Fedor Gorst, who's like world champion. Yeah. Like I would probably need like out of 15 balls, I'd probably need 11 balls to to have a chance. And even then, I'm probably getting robbed. Really? Yeah. Cuz he's just going to he's going to figure out a way to never leave me a shot. And then he's going to calculate when he has a shot, can he open up the stack and then run all the other balls? Cuz you don't break like you break with eight ball when you break

break with one pocket. It's a very calculated game and it's a big gambling game. The most money gets spent on like I was just watching online the other day a game they were playing for $240,000. Yeah, it was was a match for $240,000. I think it was a three-day match. I got to watch one of these. It's the pressure is insane. But this guy Justin Bergman who's like one of the best players in the world was playing this guy and he gave him a crazy spot. I think it was uh I think it was it

might have been like he had a it was something crazy like 10 six or something like that where he had a he had to make 10 balls the other guy had to make six balls and the guy was a good player too. And so if you're so this is like it's more like chess almost it feels like right because you're like they're calculating like you have to riskreward because like say you might have a long spot in your hole and if you make it you have all these balls and you can run out the set

or you can run out the game. Mhm. But if you miss you're selling out and this guy only has to make six balls and he might be able to make six balls cuz it's any six. Exactly. Any six. Wow. It's just any ball just has to be in your hole in any order. It's not a thing like it's not like a rotation game like one through nine or eight ball where you're like I got stripes, you got solids. It's just anything goes. Any ball in that hole. And like the really really good players can spot

you that much and you still don't have a chance. You don't have a chance. And there's a really good players like there's a guy named Tony Chan who's real famous. His nickname's T-Rex and he's like a big time money gambler. And there's another guy named Scott Frost who's a friend of mine. Yeah. who's like one of the biggest onepet players of all time. Guarantee you Scott Frost has gambled over the course of his life. Millions of dollars have changed hands with Scott Frost playing One Pocket. Yeah. He's like one of the best one pocket players

like literally ever. And these guys are playing, you know, they'll meet up in Kentucky. They'll they'll they'll have steak horses and then people on the rail. So all the people that are watching are gambling as well. So you might have a, you know, there might be a set that's being played for half a million dollars. [ __ ] a. Yeah. Like this one that I was watching, the Justin Burkeman was $240,000 they were playing for. [ __ ] Yeah. And who knows how many people are gambling on the side. That's what I'm saying that it's

it's generating a lot more. Oh, it's crazy. That's when you think about like I think it's easy to forget when you're just into like the game like the amount of money that changes hands week to week with the NFL. Oh god. Oh my god. Oh god. Oh my god. Billions. Billions. Billions. Has to be. Has to be. It is such a gambling machine. Oh, yeah. And like the NFL kind of like goes like, "No, it's not." It's about the grid iron. You're like, "Ah." But then they also got to the point where it's like, you

know, they couldn't ignore it because then you have sponsorships, right, of like there's gambling sites like we're the official gambling spite. So, it's all intermingled. Yeah. worthy part of it. Listen, I'm all for you being able to do whatever the [ __ ] you want to do. Yeah. I I like it. I don't like rules that regulate people's stupidity. I think if you want dumb as you want. If you want to do flips on your dirt bike, you should be able to do that. Yeah. So, you should also be able to gamble your life away

if you want to do that. I don't think you should. Not the Yeah, but I believe in I I believe in Darwinism. I believe you you're supposed to let people like lose everything. Yeah. 2024 $148.7 billion gambled. That's interesting because that's what Doge found they spent on transgender animal studies. The exact amount. That's No, bro. That's so much money. 148 billion. Three a week. Listen, compared to what the United States government chews up every day, that's nothing. No, that's true. This is just the United States, too. This doesn't include any other country. So crazy. And

that's just football. No, no, it's all sports, but mostly Oh, all sports. It's got to be mostly football, but yeah, that's a lot of football. Well, there's been a lot of scandals with the NBA, right? Well, yeah. The the referees shaving points. Donna, I think was his name. That was nuts. There's got to be a lot of those dirt bags out there, which totally makes sense. And it's so funny, too, cuz the NBA there's pro like in football, there's this thing that happens where like every single down you could call holding if you wanted to.

Holding just happens in every play, right? right? Every play. But what they tend to call are egregious holds, meaning that the guy who's the defender is going past you and you see the offensive guy's arm extended pulling the jersey. Like I would call that basketball. It is so tickytac what can be called and what can be ignored and what is ignored and what is called. And it's just like ref to ref. Like there's these clear palming traveling charges. Like you you see it sometimes. You're like, "What was that?" Like fingertips like graze the guy's arm

and they [ __ ] call the foul and then somebody gets hacked. No foul, right? And it's just you kind of go, "Well, that's just like in the moment of the game." And like if that guy wants to be dirty like the the one was Mhm. you can make some money. You Oh my god. Yeah. And if you got you're working for the mob or something like that, like this is your job. Your job is to shave points. Your job is to make sure that this these guys don't score as much. They just keep calling

the fouls on the other guys, sending you to the foul line. And God, keep that spread open. It's really gross, man. Yeah. There's a real problem with it with MMA, too. Is there really? Yeah. Yeah. There's a real problem with MMA um with uh Here's a problem with MMA gambling. Incompetent judging. Well, that's the thing. Is it incompetent or is it dirty? Dirty with boxing too. Yeah, we've never seen anything Oh, yeah. Because like even the lay person can watch someone beat the [ __ ] out of somebody and be like, this guy's [ __

] whooping this guy's ass. You see the decision go the other way and you're like, I don't what happened. There's been a few decisions like that. There was one lady in Vegas and she got barred from ever um refereeing or judging fights again. So, there's a few fights that she was involved with. Everybody was like, "What the fuck?" And she was the Yeah, we don't know. common denominator. I don't know if she's ever been charged. I don't want to mention her name. Yeah. But I know that there was like a real issue. It was a

real issue with world title fights where people are like, "How the [ __ ] is this?" Because if say look if say if like you're uh say it's Canelo Alvarez is fighting someone that you know he's going to win. you know he's going to be but you can place a prop bet on it being a split decision or a majority decision. All you have to do is get one person to say it's a draw and that's it. And like look, he's going to win. He's going to win. He's going to win either way. But if

I want to place a [ __ ] ton of money Yeah. on this one thing, some dirty judge could score a draw. Yeah. And you just have to convince that dirty judge like just listen. It doesn't matter. You're not affecting this guy's career. Yeah. He's going to get the win. No one's going to remember. Just make it a majority decision. Yeah. And you just got to justify why you thought I'm I'm a big fan of defense. Yeah. I think the other guy just like you blocked a lot of punches. I thought it was great. It's

really It's There's so many I feel like in combat sports where the judging it's so subjective. Yeah. But it's just for a fighter, the crazy thing is you lose half your purse. Yeah. Because like you might get, you know, hundred,000 to fight and then $100,000 to win. And so if they they hit you with a [ __ ] decision, you lost a hundred grand that's because some hometown decision or some corruption. Yeah. It's really unique that you have a sport when you think about it where there's a subjective winner, right? It's not like football, right?

every time to score. Yeah. Basketball ball goes in the net. Score. You could shave point. You could [ __ ] you know, but if you got to if you're playing Michael Jordan, he's going to score on you. Like you what you how you going to stop him? You're not going to stop him, right? So like the numbers he puts up are the numbers he puts up. But in boxing and in MMA, like remember when Roy Jones lost in the Olympics? Do you remember that? Yes. Yes. Yes. He lost the Olympics in Korea and he [

__ ] that dude up. He beat that dude from pillar to post 100%. It was nationalism. It was like it was in Korea. Like Koreans are very proud and they're like he won. Like what? Yeah. Yeah. Roy Jones Jr. in his prime in the Olympics. I mean not even in his prime yet. Yeah. He [ __ ] that guy up. [ __ ] that guy up. Yeah. And you know, there's been a few decisions like that in boxing where you're like, how is this the one cuz I I watched a video on this I think

recently too where I was like, oh, what was the explanation where it was Kennedy Tim, right? Is that his name? The fighter. Tim Kennedy, right? Is that his name? Sure. Fighting the the Cuban guy. Yo, Romero. Yeah. Yeah, that was a really That was a bad one. That was bad. That was a bad one. Yeah, that was a where like you know I want to I don't know if that's the referee's fault or whatever, but he didn't get off of his stool. So Kennedy Tim had rocked him real bad at the end of the round

like real bad. And then Yoel came went to his corner wobbling [ __ ] out of it and at the end of the one minute break that you're supposed to have sat on the stool. It should be it's over. It's over. Should be it's over. But he got an additional I I want to say more than 30 seconds to recover. before he got and then he wind up beating Tim. But also psychologically for the guy who was [ __ ] him up. For Tim, it's like, "No, this fight is over. You're [ __ ] me.

I'm getting [ __ ] here." And so then your brain starts to And then you get out of your fight mindset, which has to be zen. Cuz he's get you're getting into the injustice mindset like why isn't anybody [ __ ] doing anything? Yes. And there was that was just like a Yes. crazy. I don't know who to I don't want to pass blame. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Someone [ __ ] up. It should have been in my mind the one minute. Get up. Are you going to get up? Fight's over. This guy won. That's it.

He retired on his stool. [ __ ] you. Fight's over. That's what it should have been in my mind. Also, when the fight when the the round does go over one minute and the guy doesn't get up, you've you put a burden on Kennedy. That is just like totally unfair. Yeah. Totally unfair. Especially when he was rocking him at the end of the round like this. This is like the more time he gets to recover. There's a reason why in boxing you only get 10 seconds. Yeah. You know, the more time he gets to recover,

the more it's possible that he can win. This is not fair. Yeah. Like it's supposed to be one minute and that's it. If the fight doesn't restart at one minute, he's not ready. It's over. Yeah. So, that's only happened once. And unfortunately for Tim, it happened to him. Yeah. That does suck. It was a bummer. Yeah. It was a bummer because Yoel Romero went on to I mean Yoel was a freak of all freaks though. Like the guy could recover and he was also like just built like a superhero. No, he looked like a goddamn

pitbull. He's part of the Cuban athlete program. Yeah. [ __ ] traps in the head. Everybody who fought him said that like hitting him hurt. Hitting him said he was like he was made out of metal. They all said that. everybody said like every like Robert Whitaker who beat him twice uh who was the middleweight champion he's like every time you hit him it hurt you like he's just different. Yeah. Freaky guy. Yeah. So like if Chad Oro thinko Shinko thinks he was going to beat that guy. No. Like listen bro. No. Like there's people

like you out there that also really know how to fight. Yeah. You know like there's like people that have that. That's a problem with like really tough guys. They think they're the only one like that. Like Yeah. A it's like you don't want to discourage that in a fighter because that's the thing that gets them to a championship level in the first place is this belief that they're just different Yeah. than everybody. They're they're the chosen one. They're destined for this. But the wakeup call that those guys get when they get knocked unconscious is the

craziest thing. It's like the reality like, "Oh my god, I am the victim now. Yeah, I am what I have been doing to other people, someone just did to me and now it's over. That has to rock you on such a deep level. The deepest. Well, cuz it's also it [ __ ] with your identity. Exactly. Like who you are. Oh, yeah. Your worth. Your whole Yeah. Your whole self worth. Your girlfriend's not attracted to you anymore. You just got laid out. You're like, "What the Yeah. Like everybody thinks of you as a loser now."

Yeah. Hey, I had a rough one Saturday, huh? What happened? What happened? Hey, what happened? and all your that fat stupid [ __ ] neighbor that's happy that you're a loser now. Like, yeah, wasn't your night, huh, pal? Yeah. Happens to all of us. And you're like, "Hey, man, [ __ ] you." Like, listen, you know, maybe [ __ ] take a job where you're not getting punched in the head, stupid. Don't get mad at me. Exactly. People love it when the dominator fails. Yeah. We like to, you know, it's funny because we like to

like a society. I think I feel I don't know if it's just all over the world or it feels like it's kind of American. We'd love to discover someone, ride with them, want everyone to know this is who I've been with this person from the beginning, see them reach a certain height, and then go, "Oh, [ __ ] him." Like, "Fuck that guy." And then bring him down. You see it all the time. Well, because our society is infested with [ __ ] Like an apartment filled with roaches, our societyy's infested with [ __ ]

And there's always going to be people that don't do their best, that don't go for things, that don't try real hard, that never put themselves out there. And so some when someone does and fails, they're like, "Ha." And they want to troll them on social media. You know, you're not better than me. I tell so many fighters, you got to stay offline. Because I've talked to fighters like when they're arguing with people online and I'll meet them. I'll see them, hey man, listen to me. I know you think you're doing like you're shutting these people

up. If you ever see you, I'll [ __ ] smack you. Dude, I'm telling you right now, you got to stop doing this. You got to stop engaging and stop reading these things. This thing is It's poison. You're reading poison. And it gets in your head. It gets into your head like while you're training. I'm sure you think about it while you're training. I know it does. It's like a lot of these guys are very fragile because a lot of these guys got like bullied and picked on, which is why they got into fighting in

the first place. Yeah. To like defend themselves, right? Then you're getting bullied by a 100,000 unknown anonymous 15year-olds and your neighbor. Yeah, your neighbor's hoping for your downfall. Dude, I was reading this story about this lady who uh it this girl, this young girl was getting like mercilessly trolled online and she found out it was her mom. Yes, I saw this story, bro. It's like incomprehensible. Incomprehensible. There's monsters out there. monster to do that to your daughter. She's just jealous of her daughter's looks and popularity. [ __ ] crazy. That's a monster. Monsters are real.

Yeah. Yeah. You can't, you know, you can't like [ __ ] Gandhi everything. You can't, you know, saut the whole world. Ah, yamaste. Namaste. No, that's not real. Like, there's people out there you got to kill. Yeah. This happened to like um some soccer player, too. I remember I watched like a dock on him. It's it's like kind of vague to me, but he was getting totally like mercilessly trolled and attacked by someone and it turned out to be one of his friends. Yeah. Marvin Gay got killed by his dad. Yeah. That's You want to

hear something crazy? I was dating this girl and I was a giant Marvin Gay fan. I think she I think she didn't like it that I was a giant. She was like kind of a [ __ ] She was kind of a [ __ ] And uh one of the things that she said was like, "Imagine how bad of a person he was that his own father killed him." And I was like, "That's what you got out of this? That's your perspective? That's what you got out of this? That he was such a bad person.

Like what what could he have done that would have justified his father shooting him and killing him? I'll tell you what he did. He he [ __ ] out shown his father." Yeah, that's what he did. Yeah. He he reached levels of love that his father couldn't possibly have achieved in his life. And he his father realized, "I'll never be as good as my son. [ __ ] my son." And he hated him because of that. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure there's probably a bunch of other stuff involved, too. But, but that's dark, man. Dark.

You shot your son. You shot your son. You shot your son. And your It's not like your son was trying to kill you and you had to defend yourself and shoot him. No. He's a He's just an amazing singer that the whole world loved. Yeah. And he probably has a [ __ ] ass friend. Yeah, look at you, man. Yeah, your son Marvin's killing it and you're just a [ __ ] loser. A [ __ ] kid. What was the Cuz I always knew that the father like did it was it like a clear-cut murder

like homicide one? Yeah. Father just shot him. And there was a it was an interesting thing because I think what had happened with Marvin Gay was Marvin had uh achieved like incredible fame but he got [ __ ] over in some record deal where he had like no money. Yeah. I think he had like like everybody in that era, bro. So [ __ ] predatory. You want to talk about predatory music business is like the most disgusting. Do you ever read the thing that Courtney Loward wrote wrote about it about the music business? A lot

of people don't even think she wrote it because it's too too good. But it was essentially a breakdown of how bad the music business [ __ ] you. And this is at a time where you actually sold records. Tons of them sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. Because now now the music business like it's like the mask is off. Like it doesn't provide any value. And they still take 50% of your touring which is your touring. Crazy. Yeah. 50/50. They do 50/50 deals. Merch, touring. Yeah. And then what are they going to do? What do they provide? They

can't even get you on the radio because the radio doesn't exist. Yeah. Like you, you know, that's why people that break through from that model like Oliver Anthony or, you know, Tyler the Creator is a great example. Like just makes his own stuff, puts it all. And it doesn't have to be People don't even realize that in that era too, you would after your tour, after your tour and your hit album that you would be in debt. Oh yeah. To the record company. So they're like, you got to do another album. Oh yeah. And the

record company's all rich. Yeah. Everyone's profiting. And then also they want you to subsidize the failures. All these boy bands that they push that never made it. All the money that they put into that. That's a part of the accounting. So insane. And then Hollywood does the same thing. They they would do the same thing with like how much money a movie made. Like there's been tons of lawsuits that are involved that kind of stuff. Wait, but where were you with um Marvin? You're like he's broke. Yeah. So he I if I remember the story

correctly uh it was so depressing I didn't even want to like really get into it because I think he had become huge superstar and then didn't have any money which is that's happened more than once. Yeah. Like and I think he might have had to move back in with his parents. No. Yeah. I think that's really Yeah. Yeah. I think that's the story. See if you can find that. I'm looking. I don't know. It says he bought his dad a Cadillac, but this is years later though, right? But the thing is like he might have

like bought him money when the money was flowing in and then after a while, you know, that's the other thing that happens with artists. Like artists are impulsive. So they spend all their money and then they they don't really like how many artists get given like a Mercedes-Benz by, you know, the the head of a a label and they think like, "Oh [ __ ] I'm killing it." Meanwhile, it's a lease car. Yeah. you know, and they're just siphoning money out of you. Someone is writing that loss. You're just getting [ __ ] You're getting

[ __ ] left and right and right and left and you know, and all they do is sell art, you know, they all they do is sell art and they don't make any of it and they make more money than anybody. That's it's so people didn't know cuz now if you are into music, whatever, you don't realize how much it was a thing to have music videos, right? Like that used to be such the biggest thing. And a lot of artists, especially like the young artists, didn't even know that they were paying for the music

video. So like the label would be like, "Go shoot your video." And they'd be like, "Cool. It's a million dollars." And they'd be like, "Great." And then they're like, "Oh, no, you're going to pay for that." But they tell them later. Well, we got to deduct that million. They're like, "Wait, what? They're not sophisticated. They're not finance majors." Which is what we were talking about earlier. Like you should learn that in school. I have no idea that you're like, "Wait, I pay I thought you guys are paying for this." No. It's kind of funny that

the video a like everything is visual, you know, like everything's visual now. There's so much video that people watch, but yet music videos kind of went away. I know. Except Kanye's. Yeah, that one we definitely all saw. And the new one looks like he made it for $40. Yeah. Like it doesn't I mean it's like you got a drone and a bunch of people yelling Hitler and he had like the black light kind of effect. Yeah. Doesn't seem like that cost a lot of money. No, I don't think that probably cost a lot. Um, you

can make things now too for so much less. Oh, with AI. So accessible. Yeah. With AI, you don't even have to have the actual people doing it. Yeah. Which is really crazy. Like what you can do now is nuts. My daughter was showing me some stuff that you could do with just photographs where she could take photographs and then she throws them through this filter and then they're dancing around and moving. You're like, "This is nuts." Yeah. So, all you need is a photograph. And especially if you chose to have like effects in it, like

some sort of psychedelic [ __ ] weird things where things morph and change. It could all could be done with AI now. That's incredible. Easily. Well, there's there's articles out about uh some studio, maybe it's here in um in Texas. I got the somebody sent me the link to this um that this company wants to Yeah, they want to start making studio quality movies for 500k a AI movies. I bet they can make it for cheaper than that. But that's Yeah, these are I mean that's they'll probably have AI write the script, man. I mean,

if you're thinking about some like dumbass [ __ ] cop movie, you know, some silly bank heist movie, you got a hero who's going to go in and [ __ ] kill the bad guys. Fraction of the cost. You could write that easy with just take all AI has to do is like f it's a large language model, right? It all has to search through Steve McQueen movies and Tom Hardy movies and [ __ ] Guy Richie movies. Put it together. Make me a movie. I know. It bums me out though. Like I don't want

to watch that movie. They should. Yeah. What is this? This is the company. This is the first piece they made and it shows a little bit like how they made it here. The woman with red hair. Yeah. They still are doing Oh, so they have actors. Real actors, but then they're replaced. God damn. Like look, it looks so good. It looks so good. Like that's not a real person. Isn't that crazy? Well, she does. It's the uncanny valley. It looks a little weird. Yeah. But getting better all the time. And the only reason why it

looks weird is because it's so well lit. Like if you wanted to do it like Sin City style, there's no like Sin City, if Robert Rodriguez wanted to do Sim Sin City today, the whole thing could be AI. Yeah. No one would know. No, that's crazy. But these are all fake people. And dude, just a few years ago, you couldn't do hair. Hair was weird, right? You know, and so were like extremities, right? Fingers. Yeah. Yeah. Now, I mean, just in a short amount of time, it's incredible. Why is that? That's so interesting. Why are

fingers like Good question. And hair seems like it would take a lot of computing power, right? Because you have you you have strands, single strands moving. Like her hair is not moving. It's pretty static. Yeah, but it's No, it isn't. Go back. No, no, I'm saying but it is all moving. Not the way it would. It would if Yeah, you're right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. Yeah. It's moving as like almost like a little bit of a helmet. Like that would be a tell. Like it's a little bit of movement but not enough. Little bit

of bounce but not like it's all spray painted like as if if her hair was like sprayed with a [ __ ] ton of hairspray. Couldn't move at all. That would kind of make sense but it's not moving. So they all need that scene at the beginning of every of their movies like pretty tough to do too. What is getting a good font where you can't that does you know you can't read anything in a movie. You probably you wouldn't need it, but when you're looking for AI stuff, you look at font. Interesting. Yeah, look

at that. Like look at that font. It looks like ancient like Sumerian text or something like some lost language. Yeah. Well, like that one and the the fingers and toes thing is like I just wonder what the explanation is for that cuz that's a tell in photographs too, right? You see a photo, you could be like, "Oh, look, that's got like six fingers." Well, remember that lady, the English lady that was missing? Was it Kate? She was missing forever. She's like supposedly was sick. Kate Middleton, she was sick and then there was a photo that

was released of her. Look, she's fine. Everybody's like, "No, this is [ __ ] AI." Like in the photo, like people had six fingers and [ __ ] like weird stuff. That's weird [ __ ] In the photo there was like weird clearly edited. Yeah. It's going to get way spookier. Way way spookier. We're just touching it right now. started. This is the infancy touching the surface. Yeah, it's going to be real weird. Like actors should really save their money. You're going to be useless in a short amount of time. I agree. And also, if

you have uh any type of, you know, recognition to you now, you got to like like get your image, you know what I mean? Like Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, but also like how are you going to stop China from just making Mel Gibson movies? No, you're definitely not. You're not gonna they're just going to be like, I don't care. Yeah. [ __ ] you. We're going to make a Mel Gibson when he's 35 movie. [ __ ] off. He's going to play it here. We don't care. Yeah. Just the [ __ ] off.

We're going to put it online. What are you going to do? It's so so crazy. Run through 30 different shell companies. You're never going to find who made it. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. And it's going to get to a point where it's going to be virtual. So, it's like it's going to be inside people's heads. You're going to be able to exist inside the movie. It's things are going to get so strange and they're going to be so immersive so quickly. Yeah. That the Matrix is a decade away. The real Matrix where question where you're in

the Amazon and you are barefoot and you feel the ground under your feet and you hear the monkeys and the birds and the bugs in the trees and you hear the the sound of a panther nearby. Like that's going to be real. It's going to be real and you're going to be like, "Why do I even want to go back to real life?" Partake in the real world. Like, uh, what's that guy's name? Joey Pants from [ __ ] the Matrix when he's eating the eating the steak. He's like, "I want to be important. I

want to be an important person." Yeah. Like, yeah, that's what people want to do. They'd rather be an important person in the Matrix. That's so true, man. And we might be in that right now. That's the real mind [ __ ] The real mind [ __ ] is if they can eventually create a artificial reality that's indecisable, how do you know whether or not you're already in it? And you don't. Well, you wouldn't. Yeah. If it's There's a lot of evidence that we are. That we're in it now. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of evidence

that reality as we know it is not real, that it's too weird. quantum entanglement, quantum particles being in superp position, the fact that at a subatomic level everything is kind of magic like nothing makes any sense. Also that when you observe things it changes the behavior of subatomic particles like what what's that all about? What does that mean? Like no one really knows. So I'm experiencing this in a in an altered reality. I think consciousness might be responsible for re for reality instead of consciousness is experiencing reality. I think it might be both things. I

might I think it might be consciousness is experiencing reality as well as consciousness is responsible for reality. How much of a mind [ __ ] would it be if somebody unplugged you right now and you're like this whole thing you've been doing? Pretty mind [ __ ] Yeah. Yeah. You're like I mean if anybody should believe in it, it's me. Like I don't How is it possible that my life is like this? Yeah, right. Doesn't make any sense. I'm just like killing it in a video game. Yeah. Doesn't make any sense. Doesn't make sense. No,

but but doesn't make sense. This is why like for a fighter like the loss must be so [ __ ] unbelievably devastating, right? It's like the equivalent, right? Yeah. It's over, you know? Like, and you see champions that keep coming back and keep getting knocked out. You're like, "No, don't do it again. Fuck." you know, and just like they can't believe it's over. They can't believe it's over. But I was I was the I was the winner of the game. I won the game. I was winning the game. Nope. Not anymore. No. Now reality has

shifted. And now on top of it, you've got brain damage. Oh, [ __ ] Boy, that's worse than the version we get. Oh, it's the worst. Yeah, that's the worst version. Brain damage is the worst because now you the way you interface with reality might be damaged. Sort of like a car with a bad suspension out on the highway with the the wheels shaking now. Like the way you interface with the universe itself changes completely. Yeah. So you're you're taking a gamble. The highest amount of glory possible is like winning fights in front of the

whole world. I mean I would only imagine that like becoming a UFC champion and they, you know, put that belt on your waist and the whole crowd's like, "Yeah." And people at home like, "Fuck yeah. [ __ ] he did it. Holy [ __ ] Holy." You text your friends, "What a fight. Holy shit." That the love that person gets, the accomplishment that person gets, but the price is you're risking the way you interface with reality itself. The brain, you're you're risking the brain. And you might get out of it like George St. Pierre, you

know, George St. Pierre, fine. Handsome, wealthy. Yeah. perfect like intellectually like you're the man still bro still the man like you know whenever I talk to him he's like Joe Rogan how is things everything is great buddies he's all happy you're like boy you [ __ ] really pulled it off you really pulled it off you became a two division world champion one of the greatest fighters of all time and you're fine me on them bad boys yeah man I forgot about them Rogues I like those yeah thank you the um but for most it's

going to end badly yeah and most Crazier part to me is how many of those guys you go, "Hey, if you could go back, you know, we just change things." And they're like, "No." Some of them like go, "I I I love the glory so much." Like, you see it in fighting. You see it like in the NFL, but some of them are like, "No, I'll accept the identity." Yeah. The identity is so huge. The identity to be a special person. There's no You don't get to be a special person. Most people don't get to

be a special person. And a special fighter is a different kind of special person. Yeah. It's like that's a guy who took the craziest of risks. Like we all know and you know better than anybody how vulnerable the human body is because of your surgery and your injury. Sucks. [ __ ] horrible. So like imagine if you had a fight and now like you were a big- time fighter and you hurt yourself playing basketball with Burke Crusher. Oh my god. And then you got to build yourself back up to fight again. You kind of know

that your left arm is kind of still [ __ ] a little bit. Yeah. No, it never like no matter how far you get from it, you still have the voice in there. Oh, yeah. More so now, right? Cuz like I never had that voice before. Oh, yeah. Of like, watch out. Yeah. Be careful. Yeah. Do that. And I, you know, I've had three knee surgeries and I like I'm having a problem with this left knee that I really hurt. The last time I hurt it pretty bad was skiing. And um the last time I

skied because I cracked the bone that's at the top of the uh tibia. Um but and then I probably messed up the cartilage and [ __ ] in there too. But it's still better than most people's knees. Like it's better than a regular knee. Like like people like how how bad is your knee? Like it's not [ __ ] up like compared to your knees like a regular person's knees. Yeah. But I'm need my knee to be able to kick 60 m an hour and do a bag of sand. Yeah. Like I'm requiring different things

from my knees than most people. But I know it's not the same. Like and if you're a fighter and you know you got a bum knee, like even nobody can tell while you're moving around. You know, and you know your hand breaks easier now and you know your neck hurts and you know you got a pinched nerve and you know your lower back gives out sometimes and you know you know your kidneys kind of hurt because you cut weight for too many years. You know sounds like you know you shouldn't be fighting and you know

and you know your your memory is not so good anymore and then also you know you can't take a punch anymore like a lot of guys know that they get they used to be able to take a great punch but now you can't get hit so now you're gunshy. Yeah. You know did you see Devin Haney's fight last weekend? No. He fought like, you know, Ryan Garcia [ __ ] him up in the last fight, dropped him a bunch of times. Yeah. And this fight, like it looks like he's done. Like he's moving around just

like it was just constantly moving. Who did he fight? Um I forget the gentleman's name. Um but there were rounds where neither one of them landed a punch. The whole round. The whole round. And Garcia, that's the one where he was he won the fight, but then there was all this [ __ ] He tested positive for some sort of performance-enhancing metabolite at a very low level, by the way. Like not a level where um it would be performance-enhancing. Yeah. So, I don't know what happened. He says he didn't take anything or what ended up

happening with the the decision or the purse or whatever the he got it became a no contest. Oh, it became a no contest. Yeah. And I think he's also getting sued because, you know, his Devin Haney claimed that he won because he was on steroids and that's a bad look. But you could tell that like mind [ __ ] de Devin Haney and a lot of people like totally are writing off Devin Haney now which is crazy because I remember when he beat uh Cambosus I was like damn Devin Haney slick he's so good and

now like that guy is just he was just moving constantly and still very skilled boxer but it just shows you like one devastating loss for an undefeated fighter can [ __ ] you up. Yeah. And some guys they come back and they're fine, you know, like Garcia for instance, like Jervante Davis [ __ ] him up. He came back and he was fine. Yeah. But then this weekend or that weekend rather, he fought Roly Romero and Romero dropped him and he lost the decision. So they were going to like set up a big rematch. Now

nobody wants to see the rematch because they both lost. They both lost. Well, actually Devin didn't lose. He won a decision, but he lost public credibility because it was a very boring fight. still incredibly skillful boxer, a world champion boxer, like very good boxer, but even the commentary like Antonio Tarver was like, "I don't like the way he's moving. His footwork seems erratic. Like everything is like he needs to settle down." They uh Jose RmIrez. Yeah. But so Haney won this fight. Yeah. He won a decision. Okay. But it was the the fans lost and

this was this big event in Time Square. This is also a big event because um uh Turkey alashik the the guy from Saudi Arabia, his excellency is the guy who's dumping incredible amounts of money into boxing so that he can get these guys to fight each other. So he's putting he's like what do you need for the fight? How much to make this fight happen? Like I need $10 million. Like done. And like what? Like [ __ ] I should ask for 20. It's that kind of a situation because the Saudis have so much money.

So Oscar De La Hoya was talking about this and he was saying these guys are spoiled and they're afraid to risk anything, right? Because the money is so much so interesting. Like you need a guy who's willing to risk it all to really [ __ ] go for it. And these guys aren't willing to do that. And I think the Devin Haney thing, it's one of those things where you see a guy who is an unbelievably skilled fighter but loses one fight and they're just not the same again. Not the same. And Gervante still Javvante

still killing it, killing it. But he had that fight with Lamont Roach where it was a draw and it was a legit draw. And you know, you could even make the argument that Roach won that fight and they're going to fight again. That should be very interesting. But I think it's also for boxers, there's a situation where you can only keep up the RPMs for so long. All the greats, they just there's a certain amount of times that you can keep training, a certain amount of times you can keep competing. And like we were talking

about like your arm, you know, it's kind of [ __ ] up. That happens with them, too. Like the ankles are bad, something's bad. Like I can't do the same level of output. It's not the same. They're not the They're not who they used to be. They might look the same, but they can't do what they could do five years ago, six years ago. Yeah. Yeah. It's hard. It's a hard sport, man. And but it's also because the glory is so high. If you're successful, people are willing to do it. Yeah. Very crazy though. Yeah.

Thank God that's not how we make a living. Thank God, dude. If the UFC was around when I was competing, I 100% would have done it. And then imagine how dumb I would be now at 57 years old. Oh, I'd be a mess. A lot of staring. Oh, I'd be a lot of like drooling. And so, hey, you look good. You losing weight. You losing weight. He goes, "What are you doing?" He goes, "Uh, you dieting?" Good. You know, my brain would be like a four-cylinder engine, like all [ __ ] up, misfiring. It's good

you you didn't get into that, dude. It is. But I think I got the right amount of brain damage. Yeah, you've said it to me before. I think so. I think there's just a certain amount that you get that makes you just a little reckless, a little crazy. Just a touch. Yeah, just a touch. I just got a Yeah, just a touch of brain damage that allows me to be uh I I like taking I enjoy risks. Yeah. Like I like them. They're fun. Me, too. I have Did you ever fall in your head? Yeah,

I had a couple devastating. Yeah, I bet. Couple bad ones. Uh I bet it helped. Like I think I have some frontal lobe damage and um Yeah, I I think it I think it has something to do with it. I do. I like um calculated risks. Yes. I mean I think if you take this career path, you enjoy risk clearly. Yeah. Yeah. Well, also you don't have any choices. Yeah. Like my thought was when I was first starting I was like I can't work. I can't do it. But I know I can do things, but

I can't show up and do a job all day for the rest of my life. I don't have that in me. I'm I'm allergic to it. I didn't like I was a latch key kid, so like I didn't get a lot of like you got to do this, you got to do that. So the problem is like I developed not having people tell me what to do. So I can't listen. I think every every comic has that thing too where you're like I can't have a boss. Also, I was around enough bosses that were just

total [ __ ] Yeah. and douchebags. Yeah. That I just like in my mind the boss is an [ __ ] always. Every time he's unappreciative [ __ ] idiot who you got to listen to him cuz he's responsible for your paycheck and he knows it. So he gets to act like a douchebag and you can't go, "Hey man, [ __ ] you. Who are you talking to? Why do you talk to people like that, you [ __ ] idiot?" Yeah. You can't cuz he's the boss. He's the boss. Yeah. No, it sets you up

for like I'll figure out a way. Mhm. I think if I hadn't done this, I would have I definitely think I would I would have started my own business of some kind. You know what I mean? They've been an entrepreneur of some kind. Yeah. You would have had to. Yeah. But that's you know how many people don't or they get roped in and then they have a bunch of responsibilities like family. No, it's a [ __ ] Yeah. I mean now we're at the age too where you like you can look back on 25 years

of people you know. Oh my god. Who are like miserable. Oh my god. people that are in hell. Yeah. In hell. In hell. Meanwhile, we're [ __ ] killing it. Yeah. You know, it's really fun things. Yeah. Is when people get out of standup and then they see everybody doing real well and they want to jump back in and it's been like I've gotten some messages from some friends that I know they haven't been in stand up in a decade. And I'm like, you can't just get you can't just jump back in. No. Well, if

you do, like, you got to like start from the beginning. Like, start doing open mic nights again. Like, you've been in the writer room just doing writing for a sitcom for [ __ ] eight years. You lose your footing so much in that time. It's a different it's a different like sometimes I've had, you know, a week off, two weeks off, even a month or something off where you're like, oh, like you're you have sea legs. Like you're just like, whoa. I can't imagine 10 years that, dude. It happened to a lot of writers when

they got in the strike, you know, when the strike was going on. Like, how long did that strike go on for? God, it was months. Long ass time. Yeah. And these guys have mortgages and the kids are in private school and their wife likes to spend money. Yeah. [ __ ] And they're used to making, you know, half a million a year, you know, doing real good. And then all a sudden it all dries up and like, oh [ __ ] And then their their savings account and the wife's like, what are you going to

do? Like, [ __ ] I think I'm going to start doing standup again. like and they start trying to put together an act and they want to show up and then the club doesn't know who they are anymore. Oh god anxiety. Yeah. Scary. It's a scary feeling. It's the worst. But it's like this decisions that you make in life like what are you going to do? Like what are you going to do with your life? Those are personal decisions. Which is why the like this whole free will versus determinism thing drives me crazy because these

people that want to believe there is no such thing as free will like yeah you can do that cute little thing but you know that free will is real because you know that you decide to get up in the morning. Yeah. Like you telling me Jelly Roll didn't have free will to lose that 200 lb? No [ __ ] Yeah. Perfect example. Like that's hard to do. You're 400 plus pound. You're fat as [ __ ] You're drinking and partying every night. And then one day you put your foot down and go [ __ ]

That's enough. I'm getting I'm going to get healthy. That's free will. Like what? You're telling me determinism like forced him into a position at 39 years old where he's all of a sudden going to decide to lose all this weight and has nothing to do with his free will? That's silly. Yeah. Will's a real thing, of course. And we all have it and you can just deny it. But it's why I don't know anything that you get you accomplish that's work is through through free will. It's through making choices man. But then there is also

a certain amount of determinism. If you grow up in a terribly abusive household and you're around drug addicts and violence and then you go and commit that, it's almost like you have no other examples. You're you're It's true. It's I get that. But you still make a choice. You do, but you don't even know what a good choice is because you've never even seen a good choice. That's that's a that's that's a valuable uh analysis that like you had a horrible modeling. So you just you're just following a path you you think is the only

path, right? And some of those guys get involved in athletics, right? Some of those guys get lucky and they become a fighter or maybe they they get lucky and they become a musician or maybe they get lucky and they become something else or a comic. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, it's just the choices that you make in this life are that you don't know if it's the right choice while you're doing it. While you're making that choice. Well, I'm about to find out whether making this TV show was the right choice. The right choice. No, I'll

find out. Do you have to piss? It seems like you're wiggling. I got to piss. I knew it. I knew it. Should we wrap it up? Sure. Listen, that what you showed me is amazing. I'm sure it's going to be [ __ ] bad thoughts. When is it out? It's uh Tuesday, so the tomorrow. Tomorrow. Yeah. [ __ ] yeah. Uh It's the the stuff that I saw is amazing. It's [ __ ] hilarious. Thanks a lot, bro. I'm glad you're doing stuff, man. I'm just glad you're out there. [ __ ] beautiful to see.

I'm very excited for it. I'll tell you, it really it I know it's an overused term, but it it really was a dream come true to do it. Well, you can tell. You can tell by how well it came out. It's It's so ridiculous. It's so you. It's such a signature Tom Seagura type of humor. Thanks, man. It's awesome. I'm excited for it. Thanks for having me on, man. My pleasure, my brother. Anytime. Always. Love you to death. You too. Bye everybody. [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music]